WEBVTT - Episode 2 - The Millionaire, the Gold Digger and the Obsessive Lover

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy in Love is the true crime podcast that tells

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<v Speaker 1>love stories with a twist. All of a sudden, she

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<v Speaker 1>meets Steve and it's like Prince Charming comes and sweeps

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<v Speaker 1>her off her feet. Sometimes the twist of a knife.

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<v Speaker 1>She was holding the shotgun and she's the one who

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<v Speaker 1>pulled the trigger, and that blows me away. She would

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<v Speaker 1>kill her own daughters to get away with it. Just

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<v Speaker 1>because things start off with Once upon a Time doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean everyone lives happily ever after. This is Crazy and Love,

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<v Speaker 1>a production of Katie Studios and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney Armstrong, a crime producer at Katie Studios, joined by

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<v Speaker 1>fellow producers Stephanie Ledaker, Jeff Shane, Beth Greenwald, and Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton's We're examining the story of the millionaire, the gold digger,

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<v Speaker 1>and the obsessive lover. Steve Beard had been happily married

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<v Speaker 1>to his wife, Alice for forty two years. The pair

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<v Speaker 1>had three adult children, and life was good until sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>Alice passed away from brain cancer. Just two weeks after

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<v Speaker 1>his wife died, Steve met thirty year old Celeste Johnson Martinez.

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<v Speaker 1>The blonde bombshell, worked as a server at the same

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<v Speaker 1>Austin country club where the sixty eight year old millionaire

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<v Speaker 1>played golf. Celeste was a struggling single mom with twin daughters,

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<v Speaker 1>Christina and Jennifer. Initially, Steve hired Celest to be as housekeeper,

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<v Speaker 1>but soon a romance bloomed and Steve was opening up

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<v Speaker 1>a new world to Celeste and her girls. In this world,

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<v Speaker 1>money was no object. Celeste went from waiting tables to

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<v Speaker 1>traveling the world in first class, wearing designer clothes and

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<v Speaker 1>living in Steve's mansion. But the realizing on the cake

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<v Speaker 1>was that Steve truly adored Celeste's daughters. Two years after meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>the couple married on February at the same Austin country

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<v Speaker 1>club where the pair met. Steve was a self made millionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a bit of a media mogul. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he had owned Austin's first independent TV station, which he

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<v Speaker 1>eventually sold for millions and millions of dollars, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was married to his first wife for forty two years.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was a very devoted husband and self proclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>family man. When you really think about this whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like the sound of music, right. She

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<v Speaker 1>came into his house to take care of his house

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<v Speaker 1>and fell in love with the guy who owned it,

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<v Speaker 1>and their family soon moved in. He was by himself

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<v Speaker 1>in this big house. You know, you start to want

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<v Speaker 1>a companionship, right. But here's the interesting thing. Celeste was

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<v Speaker 1>almost forty years his junior. And Celeste had come from

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<v Speaker 1>a really rocky star like She had moved many times,

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<v Speaker 1>she had issues with her parents, she had gotten married

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<v Speaker 1>several times. There was really no stability in this lady's life.

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<v Speaker 1>She had two children. They were twins, and she put

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<v Speaker 1>the twins in and out of foster cares in their

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<v Speaker 1>very young early lives. They don't even call Celeste mom.

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<v Speaker 1>They call her Celeste. And when Steve came into celest life,

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<v Speaker 1>the girls were officially finally adopted by him. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like the first person they considered to be like a

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<v Speaker 1>real dad beyond their natural dad. Forty years it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big age difference. What age is just a number. To

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<v Speaker 1>have such a rough start in life and to end

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<v Speaker 1>up finally meeting this guy, and things really felt like

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in celeste life that they were

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<v Speaker 1>looking up and they're off to the races with a

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<v Speaker 1>happy young marriage, and you know, she and her daughters

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<v Speaker 1>ended up living this beautiful house with this great guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and they fell in love. Steve's might have obviously had

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<v Speaker 1>a crush on Celeste before he moved around as the housekeeper,

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<v Speaker 1>but pretty quickly became mutual because they started dating and

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<v Speaker 1>got married rather quickly. But Steve was no dumb. He

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<v Speaker 1>had the lest sign of prenup, but it wasn't exactly

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<v Speaker 1>that strict of a prenup. It stated that if they

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<v Speaker 1>got divorced, the less would get up front, no questions asked,

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars, and there was another stipulation that if

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<v Speaker 1>they were married for more than three years, she would

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<v Speaker 1>get an additional five dollars. So if they were married

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<v Speaker 1>for three years and got divorced, she still to make

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollars. That being said, if he died, there

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<v Speaker 1>was the prenup was completely off, so she stood to

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<v Speaker 1>make a ton more money in his passing. Well, since

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<v Speaker 1>Steve's defense, you know, he finally was able to find

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<v Speaker 1>somebody new to love. Now he has an instant family.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew that they're dead, had hired a housekeeper, but

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<v Speaker 1>realized that things had shifted when they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>the super bowls of family and you know who did

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<v Speaker 1>Steve bring along? But now the housekeeper. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>they met her, as the house manager says, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>know her so much about you. I've heard so many

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<v Speaker 1>great things about you. And his kids turned to her

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<v Speaker 1>and said, that's funny, because we have heard literally nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about you. They were proceeding very cautiously. Do we know

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<v Speaker 1>their frame of mind? They did actually think that it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a charming lady with sweet kids, because the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>both girls, Christina and Jennifer, were really smart, intelligent, very respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are statistics that show that men lose a

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<v Speaker 1>loved one after many many years, in this case decades,

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<v Speaker 1>that they really can't be alone. It's petrifying. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the perfect storm or makes him the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>target for somebody likes Celeste. Also, in Celeste's defense, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a waitress, she's trying to make her way, she's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to provide for her children. Obviously she's had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of pickups along the way, and you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as there is air and people's lungs, they can

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<v Speaker 1>start a new and maybe this was finally her chance

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<v Speaker 1>to really feel safe and feel at home. They all

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<v Speaker 1>look so happy. They do know that I'm looking at Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it must be at Celeste's daughter's graduation, and he is smiling,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Celestue look looking at it kind of makes

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<v Speaker 1>for the perfect family. And also, if Celeste didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a great background herself, which we know was the case

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<v Speaker 1>that she was in and neet of foster care, and

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<v Speaker 1>she herself was not raised in a stable environment, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>she might have had some daddy issues. And now here

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<v Speaker 1>she is, she finds this man who's very respected and

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot to offer, not only financially, but probably

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally as well. At this point, he's probably at the

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<v Speaker 1>eve of his career, so he probably had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more time on his hands, could really be invested with

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<v Speaker 1>her children. And you know, that to me makes a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of sense. Yeah, I'm looking at the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>There's obviously a big age difference on paper, but he

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a pretty young god. So it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you're picturing a Nicole Smith and her husband and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really look like that. Right. That's a good point, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>And think about it now, Celeste daughters who had a

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<v Speaker 1>really tough background and had you know, literally no consistency.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they have a new house, in a new school,

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<v Speaker 1>and frankly, a new life with a lot of love.

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<v Speaker 1>Celeste had a spending problem, and within the first six

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<v Speaker 1>months of their marriage she'd burned through five hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years into the marriage, Celeste grew restless and started

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<v Speaker 1>cheating on Steve. Just a few years later, she had

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<v Speaker 1>squandered another three hundred thousand dollars on designer clothes, sports cars,

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<v Speaker 1>and fancy dinners. At one point, Celeste through a lavish

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth birthday party for her twin daughters, and she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even invite Steve. He was frustrated and had had enough.

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<v Speaker 1>He ultimately kicked Celeste out and also told her that

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted a divorce. Panicked, Celess threatened to kill herself.

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<v Speaker 1>She put a gone to her head in front of

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<v Speaker 1>one of her daughters. It was later discovered that the

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<v Speaker 1>gun wasn't even loaded, but in any case, Steve stepped

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<v Speaker 1>in to help his wife, and he checked her into Timberland,

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<v Speaker 1>an expensive psychiatric facility. It was there when Celess met

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy Tarleton, a fellow patient. Tracy came from a dysfunctional

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<v Speaker 1>but wealthy family and was a University of Texas graduate.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite being a manager at one of Austin's top bookstores,

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<v Speaker 1>she suffered from bipolar disorder, substance abuse, and oppression. Celeste

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<v Speaker 1>and Tracy quickly became close friends. It seems like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>around Steve caught onto the fact that Celeste was cheating

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<v Speaker 1>before he did, and he was the last to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she was hanging out with her second ex

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<v Speaker 1>husband coming in late. She was spending his money like

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<v Speaker 1>it was going out of style. He was just frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>and he was done. Here's what we know about Tracy

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<v Speaker 1>and Celeste. So Tracy and Celeste formed a very tight

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<v Speaker 1>relationship at this rehab center. And that's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>rules when you go to these types of places is

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not supposed to really super bond or overly

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<v Speaker 1>trauma bond. But they were really good friends and we're

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<v Speaker 1>excited to stay in touch after they left the facility.

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<v Speaker 1>When they did leave the facility, however, they remained friends

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<v Speaker 1>and they became lovers. So Tracy specifically, it said, really

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<v Speaker 1>fell hard for Celeste. And yes, the pair continued to

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<v Speaker 1>see one another on a pretty regular basis, but they

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<v Speaker 1>talked to one another on the phone all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did like family things together, in things out

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<v Speaker 1>in public together. One example we heard about was that

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy attended Celeste's daughter's graduation, which again is a very

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<v Speaker 1>intimate family affair, and then Celeste also, through Tracy's bookstore employees,

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<v Speaker 1>a party, and at that point Steve was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>being very accepting of Celeste's a new friend, but everyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>including her daughters, did not buy it, and everybody around

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<v Speaker 1>Steve seemed to know that she was, in fact having

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<v Speaker 1>an affair with Tracy. We're going to take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back in just a moment. Yes, So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to work on their relationship, or Steve thinks

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<v Speaker 1>they're working on the relationship, but Celeste want to know

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<v Speaker 1>part of that. She told her friend, her new friend, Tracy,

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<v Speaker 1>that she was doing things like filling his nightly vodka

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<v Speaker 1>drink with ever clear, which is a grain alcohol and

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<v Speaker 1>much stronger than vodka, so he would actually get much

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<v Speaker 1>drunker than he thought and pass out, and she could

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<v Speaker 1>again hit the town. What was she spending all this

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<v Speaker 1>money on closed jewelry? She was going to the casinos,

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<v Speaker 1>something that happens also after she gets out of the

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<v Speaker 1>psychiatric ward. Is that Celeste ultimately confides in Tracy that

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't love Steve, She's never loved Steve, that he's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but a daddy warbuck ser, that he's a ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 1>fat old man, that he is not to be trusted.

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<v Speaker 1>She's painting this picture of the narrative she wants people

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<v Speaker 1>to hear, including her new girl there emotionally bonding over

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<v Speaker 1>what she's explaining to be the abuse she's suffering at home.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like something that Tracy and Celestue start to

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<v Speaker 1>really develop their their relationship and sink their teeth into

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<v Speaker 1>as they're growing stronger. In time is going by here,

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<v Speaker 1>Celesque finally has a stable home for her daughters. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>she's out and about gallivanting at night, kind of repeating

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same patterns that she came into the relationship with. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the exact same pattern. You finally have this everything

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<v Speaker 1>you wish you could have, and yet just flushed it

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<v Speaker 1>away as if it didn't matter to her. She saw

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<v Speaker 1>one thing dollar signs. I'll also say that when Tracy

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<v Speaker 1>asked the list, why don't you just get divorced? She

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<v Speaker 1>would make up these stories and say like she'd be

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<v Speaker 1>hunted down and that she felt like a prisoner in

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<v Speaker 1>her own home and that they would find her. So

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<v Speaker 1>she was building up this world that didn't really exist

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<v Speaker 1>to make everybody feel sympathetic for her because she felt

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<v Speaker 1>as though Steve was going to actually come find her,

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<v Speaker 1>and that because he was very successful, that he would

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<v Speaker 1>somehow put a hit on her. Like what was he

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? That's what she was kind of saying without saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth was a man who was high on

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen ambience because you baked it into his matched potatoes,

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<v Speaker 1>is not coming after you're looking for you at night

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<v Speaker 1>while you're out with other men and other women. But

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<v Speaker 1>also he was going to divorce her. I mean, let's

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<v Speaker 1>remember he was fed up with all the antics and

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<v Speaker 1>was divorcing her. So there was a lot of holes

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<v Speaker 1>in this story. And he was divorcing her because he

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<v Speaker 1>realized what was happening, he did the right thing and

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<v Speaker 1>tried to help her with putting her into the psychiatric

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<v Speaker 1>facility and trying to get her back on the right path.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that just goes to show his character and

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<v Speaker 1>his kindness that even as he's being screwed over. He's

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<v Speaker 1>still wanting to do this good for somebody who's doing

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<v Speaker 1>bad to him, and do good for the mother of

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<v Speaker 1>the two children that he just adopted. But the daughters

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<v Speaker 1>are smarter than you think, and the daughters really start

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<v Speaker 1>to see what's happening here. And I'll also say with Celeste,

0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.719
<v Speaker 1>even though they were getting divorced, she was able to

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<v Speaker 1>convince him back to it was a psychiatric problem and

0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.040
<v Speaker 1>he was putting the divorce on hold. Not only did

0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.600
<v Speaker 1>he believe that he helped her, but then he believed

0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that she was helping herself. So now she's like getting

0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.720
<v Speaker 1>back in his good graces again. He really wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>believe her and believe that this next time would be

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<v Speaker 1>the right time and that she would finally change again,

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<v Speaker 1>and that might have sailed his fate. It really is. Yeah,

0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.120
<v Speaker 1>speaks to steps point about like when you're in love

0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.720
<v Speaker 1>with someone, you give them a pass in a way

0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.280
<v Speaker 1>that you wouldn't with anyone else. Because when you heard

0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that that she throws a party for her kid and

0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't invite her husband, like that is very weird behavior

0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.960
<v Speaker 1>from an outsider, you're like major red flag. But if

0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you're in that relationship, you can figure out why to

0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.480
<v Speaker 1>justify anything, even something like that. He didn't know these

0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:27.240
<v Speaker 1>things were happening until it happened. That's when the divorce

0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:32.520
<v Speaker 1>conversation started. But because she got help, and because she

0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:36.120
<v Speaker 1>came out of there understanding what she did wrong and

0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.920
<v Speaker 1>that she's proclaimed she didn't really want to hurt him

0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and she didn't realize what she was doing, she won

0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.520
<v Speaker 1>him back. But while she's talking out of one face,

0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the other face is also exiting this psychiatric word with

0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a new girlfriend, Intel. She had a pretty sweet gig.

0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.160
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like like she can spend his money. He's

0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:55.880
<v Speaker 1>not going to leave her. So when did it all

0:14:56.520 --> 0:15:03.880
<v Speaker 1>turn or hit ahead? I guess. At three thirteen on

0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:10.080
<v Speaker 1>October two, Steve Beard was home sleeping. Someone entered the

0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.640
<v Speaker 1>home through a side door and quietly made their way

0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:17.680
<v Speaker 1>to Steve's bedroom. The intruder shot him with a shotgun.

0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.400
<v Speaker 1>He woke up, bleeding and in agony, and called one.

0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.240
<v Speaker 1>When the police and paramedics arrived at his mansion, Steve

0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.200
<v Speaker 1>was found lying in his bed, holding his intestines from

0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a hole in his abdomen. Paramedics thought Steve had ruptured

0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.000
<v Speaker 1>a surgical incision. As more police arrived, celest In her

0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.920
<v Speaker 1>daughter Christina appeared from a separate wing of the house.

0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Apparently the women had been in the house the entire time,

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<v Speaker 1>but didn't hear a thing. After airlifting Steve to a hospital,

0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the police searched his bedroom and found a shell casing

0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:59.640
<v Speaker 1>from a shotgun. This was no ruptured incision. This was

0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:06.880
<v Speaker 1>a did murder. Here's Steve's nine one one call. I

0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:18.400
<v Speaker 1>got out of my stomach. Oh my god. Crazy that

0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.400
<v Speaker 1>he was able to make that call. As that happens.

0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you think when someone gets shot in the

0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.960
<v Speaker 1>stomach or either guts fly out for whatever reason, they're

0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.480
<v Speaker 1>probably not able to do that. He didn't think he

0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.240
<v Speaker 1>was shot. Nobody thought he was shot. He thought he

0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:37.360
<v Speaker 1>had like an appendix explosion and it protruded through his stomach.

0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.200
<v Speaker 1>He was so fast asleep. Imagine how loud a shotgun

0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.920
<v Speaker 1>is and for nobody in the whole house to hear it,

0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:48.440
<v Speaker 1>including the guy who was shot by the shotgun. Right,

0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.240
<v Speaker 1>how big is this house? That's the last and her

0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.920
<v Speaker 1>kids can be somewhere else. And like you said to him,

0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:54.600
<v Speaker 1>she gives him all these sleeping pills. So he was

0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.880
<v Speaker 1>probably really zonked out whenever he was shot. He really

0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't hear anything at all. I mean, is a wonder

0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.600
<v Speaker 1>he even woke up to call nine one one, like

0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you said. But he survived, so obviously he was alive

0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.879
<v Speaker 1>and has enough strength to call nine one one. So

0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.480
<v Speaker 1>why is Celeste in the house though? So she couldn't

0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.760
<v Speaker 1>have arranged it because she was there with her daughter. Well,

0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.200
<v Speaker 1>here's what we know that as paramedics carried Steve away,

0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Celeste burst into tears and started screaming, don't let him die,

0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.919
<v Speaker 1>don't let him die. Later at the hospital, the police

0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.240
<v Speaker 1>tested Selest and her daughters both for gunpowder residue on

0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.240
<v Speaker 1>their hands, because I remember they found the shotgun shell.

0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.160
<v Speaker 1>They also asked them if they knew anyone who would

0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:34.960
<v Speaker 1>be angry enough at Steve or who would want to

0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.920
<v Speaker 1>cause him harm. We also do know in interviewing other

0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:43.320
<v Speaker 1>people in Steve's circle and at the hospital, Tracy's name

0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:48.639
<v Speaker 1>comes up all the time. Celeste daughters actually went to

0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.439
<v Speaker 1>the police and said, we have a really bad feeling

0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.360
<v Speaker 1>about this Tracy character. So now here they are, they

0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.040
<v Speaker 1>finally have the life they always dreamed of, and they

0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.000
<v Speaker 1>feel really safe with Steve and safe in the life

0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:04.600
<v Speaker 1>they've now moved into. Tracy is going to really ruin

0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.359
<v Speaker 1>this for them. So they were really helpful to the

0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.440
<v Speaker 1>police because a they didn't want to lose their stepfather.

0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.920
<v Speaker 1>He had given them so much, and also they didn't

0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.040
<v Speaker 1>want this whole great life to get screwed up. Police.

0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, it hurt Tracy's name from other sources as well.

0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.679
<v Speaker 1>So the police go to Tracy's house to speak to

0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:26.919
<v Speaker 1>her about steves murder, and well, Tracy just spills. Tracy

0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.240
<v Speaker 1>admits having an affair with Celeste Um, that they lovers,

0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.199
<v Speaker 1>that this has been going on for a while, you know,

0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:36.200
<v Speaker 1>everything that's Celestie told her about Steve. And and then

0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the police ask a question. They asked Tracy if she

0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.600
<v Speaker 1>owns a shotgun and what we think happened. She hands

0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:47.760
<v Speaker 1>over her twenty gage shotgun, which by the way, had

0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.399
<v Speaker 1>her name in boss Lama, and the police are able

0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.760
<v Speaker 1>to trace the shell casing left at the scene to

0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Tracy and her embossed twenty gage shotgun. So just six

0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 1>day years later after the shooting, Tracy Charlton was arrested

0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.880
<v Speaker 1>for shooting Steve with a shotgun and he's still alive.

0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.119
<v Speaker 1>He's totally still alive. He's not only still alive, he

0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't believe his wife at the time, Celess has anything

0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:20.919
<v Speaker 1>to do with this. Steve was in the hospital for

0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.240
<v Speaker 1>four months and during this time Celess would visit him constantly.

0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.360
<v Speaker 1>She sat at his bedside and made sure he got

0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:32.240
<v Speaker 1>the best care. So, despite their rocky past, Steve has

0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:35.480
<v Speaker 1>a change of heart about divorcing his wife. To show

0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:39.399
<v Speaker 1>just how much he had forgiven her, he changed his

0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:41.439
<v Speaker 1>will to give her up. So what he does is

0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.480
<v Speaker 1>he goes to his lawyers and has them start adjusting

0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and updating all of his will and testament to give

0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:51.400
<v Speaker 1>her even more money because no, I'm not kidding, and

0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.680
<v Speaker 1>make sure that she's even more well take care of

0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:57.120
<v Speaker 1>for her and her daughter's in case something happens to him.

0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.600
<v Speaker 1>All the while this is happening while he's in the hospital.

0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Do we know if Steve was told about Tracy getting

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 1>arrested and all this, like what the police talking to

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:10.160
<v Speaker 1>him and presenting that what happened, and that didn't change

0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.359
<v Speaker 1>his mind about his wife. Yeah, good question. Because Steve

0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.080
<v Speaker 1>has a lot of resources, He's a wealthy man. I'm

0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.919
<v Speaker 1>sure thankfully he's getting the best possible care at the

0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.080
<v Speaker 1>hospital because he has enough money to pay for it.

0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:25.159
<v Speaker 1>But he also probably has enough money to get a

0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:29.400
<v Speaker 1>really serious investigation going, if you know, to even help

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.720
<v Speaker 1>with the police to figure out who did this. She

0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.119
<v Speaker 1>was always able when he was kind of walking away

0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.240
<v Speaker 1>from her. She always had an uncanny way of pulling

0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.479
<v Speaker 1>him back in and even stronger than they were before.

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.480
<v Speaker 1>So I think, you know, he has this traumatic thing happened,

0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and I think she's playing to the hilt and don't

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.520
<v Speaker 1>let him die. And I love him, and he's you know,

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.639
<v Speaker 1>she's she's sitting with him, and also he's very sick.

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:57.840
<v Speaker 1>He's on medication, So you know, where is his concern?

0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Probably that his wife is there and his dogs are

0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.000
<v Speaker 1>taking care of him. I don't think he's looking outside

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.200
<v Speaker 1>of that, not at all. Tim Please tell me that

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.720
<v Speaker 1>she's not in on this, because if she would allow

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.280
<v Speaker 1>one of her daughters to be in the home when

0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:19.360
<v Speaker 1>that daughter's beloved stepfather is murdered, that's a real sicko defense.

0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Like that's her alibi, right, that's her alibi. But you've

0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:27.920
<v Speaker 1>got to remember, all along she's been doing these very

0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:32.600
<v Speaker 1>illegal criminal things by poisoning his food, giving him alcohol

0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:35.840
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna knock him out. But in front of the girls,

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.040
<v Speaker 1>they are the ones who are conflicted of we say something,

0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.359
<v Speaker 1>what she's our mother, this is our the man who's

0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 1>who's providing for us. They're really not understanding, like they're young,

0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean eighteen. Yeah, this is crazy. And not only

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 1>did she go spending his money, but she decided to

0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 1>go out while her husband's in the hospital and buy

0:21:56.560 --> 0:22:00.240
<v Speaker 1>an eighty thousand dollar watch. Either she knows her time

0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 1>is running out or she truly is in love with

0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:18.359
<v Speaker 1>herself and nobody else matters. On January two thousand and ailing,

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Steve died from an infection in his lungs. It had

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:25.560
<v Speaker 1>been brought on by complications from the shooting. At the

0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:29.280
<v Speaker 1>time of his passing, Steve was worth ten million dollars

0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:33.439
<v Speaker 1>and that money goes to her part of it. The

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:37.080
<v Speaker 1>other part goes to his five surviving children. Yes, celest

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to receive assets and property totaling six point five million dollars,

0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.320
<v Speaker 1>and like Tim said, the rest would be divided up

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.959
<v Speaker 1>between steves five children, his three adult biological kids, and

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.879
<v Speaker 1>then Celestue twins who he adopted. As we know, this

0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.879
<v Speaker 1>is like a three month October is when he gets shot.

0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.960
<v Speaker 1>In January is when he dies. What's happening with Tracy?

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:57.520
<v Speaker 1>She was arrested pretty quickly, But is she in jail

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.960
<v Speaker 1>or what she old? Shimately is able to pay bail

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>and continues to see celesce but with you know, within

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 1>months of that, Tracy say said that they mutually agreed

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to end that relationship. So after all this, Tracy and

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Celeste part ways and is Celeste also brought into authorities

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:22.160
<v Speaker 1>because she was commiserating. So what happened was Celesque got

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>what she needed from Tracy. She got her to get

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 1>rid of this person who was the only roadblock between

0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:31.400
<v Speaker 1>her and the money. However, once Steve died, the bank

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 1>refused to pay out. They wanted a criminal investigation, which

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:39.120
<v Speaker 1>is very rare. However, they were extenuating circumstances. The bank

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>put a hold until an investigation was complete, and right

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>before the completion of the investigation, where Tracy was arrested

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:53.919
<v Speaker 1>and detained moments before given her sentence, she made a

0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:57.239
<v Speaker 1>plea deal with the state and turned state's evidence and

0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:00.159
<v Speaker 1>testified against lest Why what drove her to do that? Uh?

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>What would drive her to do that? Would be that

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>she found out that Celestue got remarried again and denied

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that she was ever in any kind of physical, emotional

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>um relationship with Tracy at all. And so that was

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the route awakening that Tracy really needed to open her

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>eyes and say, I've been played. Here's everything I know

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>in m states evidence. So Tracy is obviously a killer,

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.400
<v Speaker 1>but also a little feel bad for her her her

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 1>heart just got broken. Yeah, I don't feel that bad

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 1>for Tracy, but I do feel for her that she

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>was another victim of Celeste. I do feel bad she

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 1>was another victim. Let's stop here for another quick break.

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.679
<v Speaker 1>As it possible that's Celeste targeted Tracy inside of that

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>psychiatric ward because at that point she already knew she

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get divorced. Maybe she was able to convince

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Tracy to hang in there and actually pull this off.

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>As it possible that Celeste had this plan from the start.

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Everybody was targeted in celesque life, so that doesn't wouldn't

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.360
<v Speaker 1>surprise me at all. But it's really manipulative, and I

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:18.200
<v Speaker 1>bet she she probably did. You're probably exactly right. She

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>signed an agreement if this marriage was gonna end after

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 1>three years, she was going to get like another lump sum.

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that is at his peak, he was worth

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>something like sixteen million dollars and she's gonna walk away

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 1>with fived So hell no, she does not want a divorce,

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 1>that's the last thing she wants. But here she is.

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, where do you go to find someone who's

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>broken in some way, who's easy to manipulate? A hospital.

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I do think that she knew exactly what she was

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>doing and what she was planning the whole time, because

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the divorce was not the way that she was leaving

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.439
<v Speaker 1>this marriage. She wanted to leave with with her money,

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and she wanted to leave with all the stuff, the jewelry,

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the first she wants to go gambling. She wanted to

0:25:57.760 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>do whatever she wanted, and the only way to do

0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>at was to get rid of Steve. That's so sad.

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>Tracy realizes she was manipulated and that's less live to

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>her about her relationship with Steve, and she takes action.

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 1>In March of two thousand and two, three years after

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Steve was shot and just two days before her own

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>trial is set to begin, Tracy cuts a deal with

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the prosecutor in exchange for a twenty years sentence. Tracy

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>said she would testify that it was Celest who planned

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the murder of her husband. When that blows me away

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>because she was holding the shotgun. She murdered a man

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>in cold blood because he was having an affair with

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the man's wife. One other thing that happened that's really

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 1>missed up that Celeste asked her daughters to do, and

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>her daughter's boyfriends, she asked them if they would all

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<v Speaker 1>commit suicide together right before she was about to be arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>When she found out, Tracy turned state's evidence, which meant

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<v Speaker 1>they were coming after her. And that's when we knew

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<v Speaker 1>we had to go to the FBI ourselves. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the two girls and boyfriends went to the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>as well. You know who She reminds me of her mother,

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<v Speaker 1>her biological mother, who said, I'm not your mother. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just her incubator. That's exactly what it's like, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's no emotional connection or never mind love, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's no connection to these kids. In fact, Christina kind

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<v Speaker 1>of went on record and said, I never felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I was her daughter. I felt like I was her

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<v Speaker 1>personal assistant to do and get anything. She wanted, and

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<v Speaker 1>so this lady, Tracy Celeste was manipulating her to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that she was the one and only and that she

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<v Speaker 1>was being abused by Steve, and that this was a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible situation that she can't get out of. And so

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<v Speaker 1>not that it makes it right at all, because it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to understand also, she manipulated this person

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<v Speaker 1>into believing she was in love with her, and that,

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<v Speaker 1>in Tracy's weird no kind of defense, she said, understand,

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<v Speaker 1>she was in love and she couldn't bear the thought

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<v Speaker 1>of seeing the person she was in love with being

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<v Speaker 1>manipulated or hurt by this man. So she, in her

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<v Speaker 1>weird way, was thinking she was helping. Good point, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good point. She just, i mean literally swung

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<v Speaker 1>from people's lives to other people's lives, wreaking havocs, spending money,

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>doing whatever she wanted, thinking that it was never going

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up here and she truly loved herself more

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<v Speaker 1>than anyone else. Two years after Steve Bird shooting, Celeste

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<v Speaker 1>was arrested and charged with capital murder. She hired Dick

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<v Speaker 1>de Gurin, a high powered attorney, the same man who

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<v Speaker 1>represented the likes of Robert Durst and David Koresh d

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<v Speaker 1>Guran painted Selest ex Tracy as an obsessive, love sick

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<v Speaker 1>woman with a delusional fantasy. He went as far as

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<v Speaker 1>to say that two women were just friends, nothing more.

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<v Speaker 1>The d A responded by saying Celeste was a mentally

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<v Speaker 1>ill woman who used Tracy to at rid of Steve

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<v Speaker 1>so she could inherit millions of dollars. At the trial,

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<v Speaker 1>with all of Austin watching, Celesque daughters took the stand,

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<v Speaker 1>but they weren't there to defend their mother. Instead, they

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>were testifying for the prosecution. However, it's really Tracy's testimony

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<v Speaker 1>that brings the story full circle. Here she is on

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<v Speaker 1>the stand. She had a plan and she wanted me

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot him at Tor Canyon with my shotmun What

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>did she say about exactly how she wanted you to shoot?

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<v Speaker 1>She wanted me to shoot in the stock. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>she where you shooting in the stop because she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want flatter She didn't want a blood splatter on the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the word she used? Flatter? She used to flatter?

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<v Speaker 1>Um did she say why she didn't want a blood

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<v Speaker 1>splatter on the wall. She at the time was not

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<v Speaker 1>planning on redecorating, So she wanted to continue to be

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<v Speaker 1>that room, but not miss it up stays to that question. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so she didn't want to be decorate it. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to live with anything on the reminder, So after

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<v Speaker 1>you saw Steve Beard and you were in there in

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<v Speaker 1>the bedroom, what if anything did you do? I want?

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane? Wow, So you're gonna still stay in that house.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna still stay in that bedroom. Understand. The twins,

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<v Speaker 1>Christina and Jennifer, now like in the early twenties, confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>their mom's contempt for Steve. They told the court their

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<v Speaker 1>mom was a liar. Christina said her mom would make

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<v Speaker 1>comments like why does it why doesn't he just die already.

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<v Speaker 1>They went on to explain the whole crushing of drugs

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<v Speaker 1>into his food. It was really damning and so so

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<v Speaker 1>sad to watch this happening. And Celeste of course completely

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<v Speaker 1>deny all of this. You know, Celes denied everything and

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<v Speaker 1>claimed the twins were out for money because if she

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<v Speaker 1>was convicted, they would each get two million dollars. So

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>she was trying to say, you know, they're lying and

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<v Speaker 1>they have a vested interest in me going to jail

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<v Speaker 1>because they're gonna get two million dollars each. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they love Steve. They were telling the truth. The girls

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<v Speaker 1>were honest. They told me exactly the truth, and I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly think that Celess got exactly what she deserved. In

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand three, after two and a half days of deliberation,

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<v Speaker 1>the jury found Celess Beard guilty of capital murder and

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<v Speaker 1>she was sentenced to life in prison. After serving ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy Tarleton was released on parole in August of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand eleven. She said there wasn't a single day that

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<v Speaker 1>went by without feeling shame for what she did. Celest

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<v Speaker 1>Beard is now divorced from her fifth husband and and

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<v Speaker 1>continues to maintain that she did not have a hand

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<v Speaker 1>in killing Steve. She will be eligible for parole on

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