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Speaker 1: The volume this week on Prime Cuts, Chad Milman, Sharper Square,

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Speaker 1: John Middlikoff on the Niners Dominant went over Philly in

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Speaker 1: my Top Takes of the Week. Well, hi, everybody, I

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Speaker 1: think the interesting story today is Tyler Dunn, who is

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Speaker 1: story today. It's part of a three part series on

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and how he has worn out as welcome

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Speaker 1: sourcing that I trust with Tyler Dunn on players saying

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Speaker 1: so often that I do worry that it's just it's

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Speaker 1: fatiguing to the audience, is defensive coaches do not have

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Speaker 1: relationships with quarterbacks. We've seen Mac Jones and Belichick regress terribly,

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson really bad. Mike Zimmer and

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Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn story, the part that would really concern me

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Speaker 1: is the quote that Sean McDermott, all these years with

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Speaker 2: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: That's why Josh Allen has regressed since Brian Dabole left,

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about it on FS one. If you

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Speaker 1: But when your quarterback is Josh Allen, you got to

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Speaker 1: So Buffalo's a small market, a very small market by

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Speaker 1: I talk about this it leads me to the second story,

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Speaker 1: which is Jim Harbaugh is negotiating an eleven and a

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Speaker 1: Buffalo is different. They have drafted pretty well, not great,

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Speaker 3: high level guy, Jalen super high level guy. Their coach

424
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Speaker 3: can be really really yappy, right and not in a

425
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Speaker 3: Bill Parcells like check the hel on my wall. Yeappy.

426
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: It's like kind of annoying, and there's a level of

427
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 3: the you know, listen, Kyle Shannon's gonna scream at the refs,

428
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 3: but he's not gonna give the other team. He's an

429
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Speaker 3: old school kind of Andy Reid, his dad, like, it's

430
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: not about he doesn't want to get involved in the thing.

431
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: And I do think their coaching staff. You got Sirianni

432
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: screaming at people pregame. He just listen. That works against

433
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 3: the majority of opponents. It's not gonna work against the Chiefs.

434
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: Maybe it works a little bit against Dallas, but it's

435
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: not gonna work against the forty nine ers. It's more

436
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 3: just x's and o's. We're gonna hit you in the

437
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: mouth and we're gonna be relentless. So all that stuff,

438
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Speaker 3: you know, that kind of typically feeds into Philly, like

439
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 3: they loved when Dom got tossed, and they feed off

440
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: that souff The Niners are they have proven that this

441
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: core of guys have won so many games on the road,

442
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: went to Green Bay and one went to Dallas and

443
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 3: one like that. They're not gonna be intimidated by difficult

444
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Speaker 3: circu They easily could have won a couple of years

445
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 3: ago against the Rams, right you know, when Tart dropped

446
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: the ball. So they go into these environments a lot

447
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Speaker 3: like some great like NBA players like Curry group over

448
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: the years, Like they're not intimidated. They might need a

449
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: couple series to kind of gather themselves, but they're gonna

450
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: be okay. So the Eagles, it's gonna be a scheme

451
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,959
Speaker 3: game versus them. Can you out scheme them? Because all

452
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Speaker 3: the other shit, Like the Niners aren't gonna be phased

453
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Speaker 3: by that crap. Can you can you outthink them? Can

454
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Speaker 3: you out call like Andy Reid? Can you out call

455
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 3: plays against whatever their their looks are offensively or defensively?

456
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Speaker 3: And you saw today it wasn't really a fair fight. Now, I,

457
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Speaker 3: like you said, I'm gonna give them the benefit of doubt,

458
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Speaker 3: little gas. I think if you told me there was

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Speaker 3: a rematch, I would expect a much better Philly fs.

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Speaker 3: But I do think big picture, do they have like

461
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Speaker 3: their head coach, he's not calling the plays on either side.

462
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Speaker 3: He's just kind of screaming on the sideline like the

463
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Speaker 3: forty nine ers guy is their play caller, Like it's

464
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Speaker 3: him versus you. You know, so I that's a disadvantage

465
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Speaker 3: for the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: You know, here's the utter thing is I I'm trying

467
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Speaker 1: to think of a roster who fungus injury, although painful,

468
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Speaker 1: they can protect it the good pass rush. I don't

469
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Speaker 1: think there's been a roster as good to San Francisco

470
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Speaker 1: since the Seahawks roster that won a Super Bowl but

471
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: went to too straight that that roster just didn't make.

472
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Speaker 1: That was such a good roster. You're not really allowed

473
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Speaker 1: to do that anymore. Again, Russell was on a rookie deal.

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Speaker 1: Comminity wasn't the roster wasn't good. Perty's on a rookie deal.

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Speaker 1: But I'm trying to think of a roster. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's I remember that Seattle team was so good that

477
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Speaker 1: they went and just rented Percy Harvin almost never used

478
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Speaker 1: him as a toy. And then they went and got

479
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Speaker 1: Cliff Averel said yeah, we'll bring another pass rusher. And

480
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Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, that's a luxury of a rookie contract.

481
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Speaker 1: You can't do that with a veteran quarterback. But I

482
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Speaker 1: think this roster, you know, I find myself rooting for

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Speaker 1: San Francisco to win because it would be such a

484
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Speaker 1: shame if this roster didn't at least want like that

485
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Speaker 1: Seattle roster. John it was too damn good not to

486
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Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. It was just too good. That

487
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Speaker 1: was just fundamentally too good. The Ravens roster with Dilferd,

488
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Speaker 1: there's like seven Hall of famers. I grew up with

489
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Speaker 1: the Steelers in the seventies. There were a couple of

490
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Speaker 1: Raider teams. You're like, yet the Cows Jimmy Johnson roster,

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Speaker 1: they need to win a Super Bowl. There's too many

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Speaker 1: good players. All right, time for another edition of Sharper Square.

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Speaker 1: Chad Milman, c CEO Action Network. All olds provided by

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Speaker 1: Draft Kings. All right, let's start sharp Square. So let's

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Speaker 1: go underdogs first. I'm prone to like underdogs. Saints are

496
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: all beat up. You got a new coaching staff with

497
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Speaker 1: the Panthers trying to impress the owner who's an impulsive,

498
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: impatient man. Saints have been an underachieving team all year.

499
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Bryce Young plus five against the division rival.

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Speaker 2: Sharper Square, totally sharp play. This one has been moving cole.

501
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: This line opened at six and a half on Sunday.

502
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: Wise guys immediately started betting it. By Monday morning, it's

503
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Speaker 2: down to five. Right, and look, nobody thinks the Saints

504
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: are what the Saints were expected to be in the

505
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Speaker 2: beginning of the year. Jamis Winston He's eight and nineteen

506
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Speaker 2: against the spread as a favorite in his career. Dennis

507
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: Allen one of the most unprofitable coaches against the spread

508
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: in his tenure of the past twenty years. They're one

509
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: to nine this year as a favorite. Meanwhile, the Panthers

510
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: defense has been improving. They got j cd hornback last week.

511
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: He is a difference maker in the backfield, defensive backfield,

512
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: and the Saints just haven't been very good, like everyone

513
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: talks about their defense. Defense is like thirtieth in EPA

514
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: per play in the past six weeks. So not a

515
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: good spot for the Saints, and that's why the wise

516
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: guys are playing them.

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Speaker 1: All right, Denver plus three last week against a really,

518
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: really well coached defense, they got turnover prol but the

519
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: previous four to five weeks they weren't. There are limitations

520
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: to the offense, but they're not a turnover heavy offense.

521
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: They were last week on the road. The Chargers don't

522
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: create turnovers. I thought that the performance against New England

523
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: was staggeringly bad. Shockingly It's as if the law locker

524
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: room quit. But the Patriots were so bad they still

525
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: couldn't beat them. I would take the Broncos in a

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Speaker 1: rivalry game here plush three sharper square.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely the sharp side. Nobody likes to bet the

528
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Chargers as favorites. Even last week, the wise guys were

529
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Speaker 2: betting the Patriots and they got you know, unfortunately, it

530
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: was basically a bad beat. It was a baseball scorer

531
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Speaker 2: six to nothing in the line started at six and

532
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: moved on a little bit similar here, like we're talking

533
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: about a Division underdog. Last five years, they cover fifty

534
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: seven percent of the spread fifty percent of the time

535
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Speaker 2: when they are the road dog. The Broncos last week, aside,

536
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: they had their moments, they had a shot to cover

537
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: and win against the Texans even playing terribly. So now

538
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: they're getting a much better coach in a smash spot

539
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: for the wise guys. They are on the Broncos.

540
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: Seahawks plus ten and a half at the Niners Philadelphia's

541
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Speaker 1: That win is impressive. As we've often talked about after

542
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: a great win, teams pull back Seattle at six and six,

543
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: and the Rams are coming hard, desperate. You know, I'm

544
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: not a Geno Smith fan, but there's weapons here. This

545
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: is a rivalry game, it's the season for Seattle. I

546
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: thought this was one of my favorite picks on the board.

547
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: Sharper square, totally sharp. What's interesting here is this number.

548
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Speaker 1: It's kind of stabilized on Sunday night, opened about twelve,

549
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: twelve and a half thirteen. Immediately that number got that down,

550
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: and you do have a lot of things here. Look you,

551
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: it is as high as high as it gets on

552
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: the Niners right now, right their four game win streak.

553
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: When Deebo and Trent Williams are playing, they are nine

554
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: to zero. They're beating teams by three touchdowns when that

555
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 1: duo is on the field. Brock Party where it's invincible.

556
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: When those guys are playing and he has those weapons.

557
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: Here's the challenge. They are coming off that Eagles win.

558
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: That's why the number opened so high. That's why the

559
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: wise guys immediately bet it down to ten and a half. Again,

560
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: road dogs in the division the past five years, fifty

561
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: seven percent against the spread.

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Speaker 1: You're playing with.

563
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Speaker 2: Fire because we do have a lot of evidence how

564
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: good the Niners have been. But as a professional vetter,

565
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: you have to take the Seahawks in this spot. The

566
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: president will tell you long term that as a value play.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I've had this theory that if you don't

568
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Speaker 1: have a quarterback on your roster that can duplicate to

569
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: some degree Lamar Jackson and you're an NFC team, you're

570
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: screwed going to Baltimore. Seattle got buried, Detroit got buried.

571
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford is going to get buried. The Rams have

572
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: been doing it. They face the backup quarterbacks, some pretty

573
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: lousy defenses. They've been at home. Rough spot for an

574
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: NFC traveling to a different time zone early game. I

575
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: love the line at minus seven. Don't love it as

576
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: much at minus seven and a half. But Baltimore's done

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Speaker 1: this time and time again as a home favorite against

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Speaker 1: West Coast teams. Ravens minus seven and a half.

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Speaker 2: Sharper square well at seven and a half, it's square

580
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: at seven. It's neutral. There's no huge consensus here. The

581
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: Rams are getting played at seven and a half. There's

582
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: a couple of things that are tempting the wise guys.

583
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: Seven and a half is just a huge number, right.

584
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: You can easily see the Rams are down by two touchdowns.

585
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: Game is out of reach. They got two minutes left.

586
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: You know Sean McVeigh is not going to take his

587
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: foot off the gas. Matthew Stafford in that spot, can

588
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: we get find his receivers. The Ravens are playing a

589
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: little bit more lax, and they cover the back door

590
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: at seven and a half because you know you got

591
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: the hook at seven. It's a little bit more cautious

592
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: for the Wise guys. There's one factor here. Lamar Jackson

593
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: as a favorite of more than three is not very good.

594
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: Twenty one and thirty one against spread, so and Lamar

595
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: Jackson is a favorite more than three at home not

596
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: very good. John Harbaugh historically incredibly profitable, not very good

597
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: as a favorite of more than three at home. So

598
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: this is not a great spot for the Ravens. However,

599
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: they have been turning it around a little bit this year.

600
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: That Colts game, I think was in anomaly. We saw

601
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: with the Seahawks, we saw it with the Lions, but

602
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: don't remember, don't forget those games were under a touchdown,

603
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: So you're playing with fire if you're going to take

604
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite lines of the week. Now the

606
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: line's gotten a little out of hand, but Cleveland minus

607
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: three and a half. So Christian Kirk surgery out Trevor

608
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: Lawrence out c J. Bethort against one of the best

609
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: defenses in ten years, and the Cleveland defense much better

610
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: at home. If you watch the Browns of the Browns

611
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: Rams game, Joe Flackall was good, shockingly good. Offensive coaches

612
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: taking back up quarterbacks this year and I can give

613
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: you six It's worked quickly, and O'Connell Dobbs worked quickly

614
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Browns to cover. I think it's

615
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Speaker 1: a blowout. I think they blow out a Jags team. CJ.

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Speaker 1: Bethard is a borderline NFL guy.

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Speaker 2: Sharper square, Well, it's sharp, and that's why the number

618
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: has moved so aggressively, like it moved obviously when the

619
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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence injury happened. And you know now knowing it's

620
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: going to be CJ. Bether But don't forget. You've lost

621
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Speaker 2: Christian Kirk, You've lost Cam Robinson. They've lost people on defense,

622
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: which was already a bad secondary. Now you're going to

623
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: have a massive amount of wind and rain in a

624
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: game that is going to be very, very ugly. This

625
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: defense for the Browns is different at home. Ten points

626
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: per game at home, thirty points per game on the road.

627
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Speaker 2: They are relatively healthy. Forget about Joe Flacco for a second.

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Speaker 3: You're just talking.

629
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Speaker 2: About the advantages that Cleveland has at the defensive unit

630
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: playing against a litany of backups for the Jags. So

631
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: the wise guys have continued to play this and they're

632
00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: still playing at three and a half.

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Speaker 1: Another damaging story comes out about Sean McDermott, how one

634
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: of his coaches got a truck paid for by players.

635
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Speaker 1: It's just bad pr end of last season to now

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Speaker 1: with the Bills, Kansas City lost to a really red

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Speaker 1: hot Jordan Love. I think the Packers now are playing

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Speaker 1: really good. I think they were a bad PI miss

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Speaker 1: by the officials from scoring a tying touchdown. So I

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Speaker 1: think we're overplaying because it was a wildly popular game

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Speaker 1: and highly viewed. We're overplaying the problems with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: They are favored by only one and a half against

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Speaker 1: the Bills, who I just think, going back to last

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Speaker 1: year's playoff game, are a bit of a mess inside

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Speaker 1: the walls of that organization. I'll take Kansas City to

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Speaker 1: cover Sharper square.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, the line has moved in the Bills direction

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Speaker 2: before this story that you're referring to came out, and

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00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: this line opened at three, immediately got that down to

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Speaker 2: two and a half, then two, then one and a

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Speaker 2: half some places, one, which to me is insane, and

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Speaker 2: I think it is a huge overreaction to the troubles

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Speaker 2: that Kansas City has had, like you said, and also

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Speaker 2: an overreaction to the Bills being competitive against the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: losing a really bad game, having the week off and

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Speaker 2: now needing to win this game to get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Haven't the Bills been desperate for like a month and

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Speaker 2: it hasn't mattered, right, So why is this game going.

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Speaker 3: To be any different?

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Speaker 2: And to your point about Patrick Mahomes, Look, I bet

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Speaker 2: the Packers plus six last week on Monday Night, and

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Speaker 2: there is nothing that feels worse than having the team

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Speaker 2: that is playing against Patrick Mahomes. When Patrick Mahomes has

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Speaker 2: the ball at the end of the game, and look,

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Speaker 2: he made a bad pass, he got beat on that interception,

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Speaker 2: but you're right one pi away from probably getting to

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Speaker 2: the end zone and making that a twenty seven twenty

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Speaker 2: seven game. I don't want to bet against Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: as less than a field goal favorite in November and

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Speaker 2: December when he's at home. So if you're telling me

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Speaker 2: I got to get Patrick Mahomes and he's just got

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Speaker 2: to win by one point, come on. Of course we're

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Speaker 2: taking the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's time to talk me into this one.

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Speaker 1: Eagles plush three and a half, despite the fact they

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Speaker 1: will have played the Cowboys and the Bills and the

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Speaker 1: Niners and the Cowboys again and all these tough teams

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Speaker 1: Kansas City mixed in. There is a fatigue, right, but

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Speaker 1: I do think it's being overvalued. This is a good

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Speaker 1: team that had won twenty four of twenty six, Cold

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Speaker 1: leading trailing Warm Windy. They win three and a half

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Speaker 1: divisional game, Cowboys may win. But the hook I'd take,

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Speaker 1: why isn't everybody seeing this as an obvious Eagles play.

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Speaker 2: Part of it is scheme. The Eagles have been exposed

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Speaker 2: in the middle of their defense. They just can't cover,

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Speaker 2: and we saw that with the forty nine Ers. They

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00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: just destroyed the Eagles with a scheme that can be

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00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: very similar to what the Cowboys are trying to do.

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Speaker 2: Right Mike McCarthy all year talking about playing a style

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Speaker 2: of West Coast offense that he had done with the Packers,

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Speaker 2: and you know they're changing it up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But if you look at what Dak is doing this year,

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00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: Key and Ceede Lamb are making connections and that ability

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00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: to drive the slant route and connect on that is

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Speaker 2: going to be really challenging for the Eagles, especially in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the defense for them. So I think

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Speaker 2: that's one reason. Also, the Eagles have not been running

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Speaker 2: the ball lane. Johnson injured. I think that's a huge

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Speaker 2: tell for the wise guys. But the truth is, Colin,

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Speaker 2: you look at every metric, you look at number of bets,

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00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: you look at an amount of money, it's pretty split

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00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty, which is why this thing has basically

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00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: stayed where it is. There was the initial push opened

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00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: at two and a half. Wise guys took the two,

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Speaker 2: they took the three, and now it's a three and

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Speaker 2: a half. It hasn't gone up to four because everything

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Speaker 2: is basically stabilized. So I think this is where it's

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Speaker 2: going to be for a little while. No consensus. I'm

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00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: on the Cowboys for what it's worth.

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Speaker 1: All right, finally, dumpster diving, what's the game I missed?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, we got two options here. One.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you didn't bring up the Bears getting

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Speaker 2: three and a half at Now, that's an interesting one,

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Speaker 2: so talk about that. To me, this is a no brainer.

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00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: And the Bears opened at five. Wise guys bet it

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Speaker 2: down immediately. It settled at three and a half within

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Speaker 2: about twenty four to forty eight hours. Number One, the

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Speaker 2: Bears defense has been playing really, really well the past

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Speaker 2: seven weeks compared to the Lions, defense, which has been

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Speaker 2: getting shredded, and they're missing McNeil in the middle of

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Speaker 2: their defensive line. That is a huge impact that people

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Speaker 2: who know football are talking a lot about. So now

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Speaker 2: you're getting a team on the road, playing in Chicago

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Speaker 2: where weather is going to be a factor. Jared both

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Speaker 2: in his career averaging less than fourteen points per game

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00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: when the weather is under fifty degrees against a team

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Speaker 2: in justin field a lot of our po We've seen

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Speaker 2: what they've been doing when he is on the field

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Speaker 2: since his injury. A lot more running. They kept this

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Speaker 2: game close against the two weeks ago. They beat the

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Speaker 2: Vikings last week. This Bears team doesn't get credit for

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Speaker 2: how much more it's improved since the bye week. So

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Speaker 2: the wise guys are on the Bears one more. Well,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned backup quarterbacks and you talked about sort of

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Speaker 2: they're getting these opportunities to shine quickly. Jake Browning did

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Speaker 2: not play well in his first game against the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: but he played very well in his second game against

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Speaker 2: the Jags. Very accurate. Look at what this Colts team

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Speaker 2: has done. Who have they beaten up the Panthers, the

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Speaker 2: Patriots very lucky against the Titans last week to get

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Speaker 2: a win and continue this winning streak. So is this

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Speaker 2: a Jake Browning spot? The wise guys think so. The

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Speaker 2: wise guys have been betting this game down. The Bengals

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Speaker 2: opened about two to two and a half. It's now

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Speaker 2: down to one. I think if you can get the

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Speaker 2: Bengals as an underdog, you still take it.

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Speaker 1: Chad Melman. All odds provided by DraftKings, CCO Action Network.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy NBA in season tournament You bet brother, h.

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