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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Mark vandermir John Harris with you, and we're all back

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Speaker 2: together the Power Trio of Thursday Night Football. Conversation with

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Speaker 2: the General John McClain. So I would say that Johnny

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Speaker 2: Harris would be on the drums. John McClain is the

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Speaker 2: lead vocalist. Well, we need a bassist though, I think

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Speaker 2: we needed somebody to play bass. You get you know what,

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Speaker 2: John McClain, You could be like Geddy Lee and played

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Speaker 2: bass and saying or Mark Farner from Grand Funk Railroad,

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Speaker 2: didn't he play bass?

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Speaker 1: I might have that wrong.

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Speaker 3: About baub McCartney.

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Speaker 2: I want to play that's good, but he's not in

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Speaker 2: a power trio. Really, I'll play lead guitar. Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much. Anyway, General, how's it going. What is your

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Speaker 2: reaction to some of the stuff you've been seeing unfold

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Speaker 2: at the NFL Annual Meeting. But first I want your

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Speaker 2: reaction to Cal McNair, principal loner. Obviously you've covered this

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Speaker 2: thing from the get go, and Bob McNair was fighting

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Speaker 2: for the franchise back in the late nineties and got

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Speaker 2: it October sixth, nineteen ninety nine. And you've seen the

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Speaker 2: whole thing, unfold your thoughts, good evening.

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Speaker 3: Well, we know Cal was going to be the controlling owner.

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Speaker 3: We knew head of time Jannis, they were going to

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Speaker 3: vote on it and it would be unanimous. So to me,

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Speaker 3: it was not any big deal since it was an

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Speaker 3: afterthought a lot of people don't realize how long Cal

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Speaker 3: has been in charge. Bob was battling cancer in seventeen,

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Speaker 3: really bad, and Cow was running at seventeen. People think

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Speaker 3: he didn't start running until Bob died in November of

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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, but that was not that was not the

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Speaker 3: case and Bob. The one I'm really glad is that

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Speaker 3: Kerry McNair lost his suit because Bobb had told me

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Speaker 3: that he never wanted a team sold and I said, well,

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Speaker 3: you can't fight from the grave, and he said, I

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Speaker 3: won't have to because my will is ironclad and I

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Speaker 3: have good attorneys who I pay a lot of money

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Speaker 3: to make sure it's exactly the way I wanted. And

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Speaker 3: he wanted Janis as a controlling owner, and he wanted

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Speaker 3: Col running the team with her, and he wanted to

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Speaker 3: carry the oldest son to run the McNair group. And saw,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that all that has been settled because I

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Speaker 3: know Janis at eighty seven. I never understood trying to

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Speaker 3: act like she was incompetent because I used to talk

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Speaker 3: to her before games and she had a roster and

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Speaker 3: she had her notes and we talked everything. I introduced

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Speaker 3: Bruce Matthews to her. He was there before the Browns

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Speaker 3: playoff game, sitting in the suite with his wife Carrie,

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Speaker 3: and they talked about football. So, you know, just because

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Speaker 3: she had the stroke which put her in a wheelchair,

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Speaker 3: she was sharp as attack. Remember I remember going into

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Speaker 3: and I've have such a great respect for her and

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy for her that this has been cleared up.

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Speaker 3: And now Cal who's been doing this every day. And

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Speaker 3: by the way, when he goes on at the end

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Speaker 3: it's a long drive, but he wants to tell her

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Speaker 3: what went on because she likes to keep up them.

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Speaker 3: For Andre Johnson went to the Super Bowl for the

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. He went by her house and talked

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Speaker 3: how much he appreciated everything. So I'm happy for the

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Speaker 3: McNair family because they've gone through a lot and now

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Speaker 3: they have everything just about perfect, and hopefully everything will

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Speaker 4: John you mentioned Andre Johnson he was going to the

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame and the Texans will be there in

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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame game. I don't know if there's

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Speaker 4: a whole lot about the game itself, but you know

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Speaker 4: what that weekend is all about. How cool is it

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Speaker 4: that the Texans will be able to play that game

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Speaker 4: on Thursday and then Andrey goes in the Hall on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I've had so many people ask me about, you know,

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Speaker 3: where to stay And one of the things years ago

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Speaker 3: I never understood. The PGA started to play one of

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Speaker 3: its biggest tournaments, the Firestone Classic, in Accron, the same weekend.

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Speaker 3: All Football Pro Football of Fame ask them not to

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Speaker 3: do it, but David Justin and I always tell people,

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Speaker 3: you can stay in the Amish country, you can stay

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Speaker 3: at the Cleveland Airport. We all Carroll and I've always

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame since I'm on the committee, but we

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Speaker 3: It's only an hour anyway, and can sleep a little later.

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Speaker 3: But it's such a great event. And I tell people

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Speaker 3: two places you have to go if you love pro football,

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Speaker 3: and that's Canon, especially on Induction weekend, and that's lambeau Field,

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Speaker 3: which is the Cathedral. And we've done all that and

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Speaker 3: I never get tired of either one, and so it's

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Speaker 3: going to be such a great time for Texans fans

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Speaker 3: to go for the first time. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: the restaurants there that I like, and I can't wait

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Speaker 3: for that weekend. You know, it'll be Bill Caleb Williams

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Speaker 3: versus CJ. Stroud. They'll probably play probably a series each

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Speaker 3: because the league wants them to play for the TV audience.

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Speaker 3: But what a great weekend for Texans fans.

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Speaker 2: And they're going to both Canton and Green Bay this year.

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Speaker 2: The Texans are, so you get to do both if

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Speaker 2: you're able to do both. But back on the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame thing for just a moment here at General obviously,

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Speaker 2: there's the induction ceremony Saturday night, the game Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: Friday night, there's that dinner, but that's not for the

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Speaker 2: general public, right, What else is there to do? So

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Speaker 2: you have the induction ceremony, you have the hall itself,

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Speaker 2: and the game. What else can you share with us?

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Speaker 3: The thing that is the most fun and interesting is

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Speaker 3: the enshrinement dinner at the Kansons Civic Center. And there's

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Speaker 3: about seven thousand people there and they add general admission

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Speaker 3: up and say, when Andre comes out, he will have

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Speaker 3: a gauntlet of Hall of famers lined up from when

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Speaker 3: shaking his hands, pounding him on the back, all gold

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Speaker 3: jackets and the strobe blights will be blaring and the

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Speaker 3: and then it's and then he walks up there and

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Speaker 3: then whoever he chooses, he said, he told us at

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Speaker 3: his news conference he had three candidates, kind of guessing

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Speaker 3: and I don't know, Gary he had Gary Kubiak introduced

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Speaker 3: Gary became the head coach, he did things to help

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Speaker 3: Andre's career take off. That'd be appropriate. But whoever it

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Speaker 3: on the gold jacket, and then he'll walk around that stage.

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Speaker 3: Everybody will be giving him a standing ovation, the stroke,

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Speaker 3: blights will be flashing, the music blaring, people will be

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Speaker 3: shooting videos, pictures, and he'll walk around holding his hands

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Speaker 3: up in the air, thanking him and smiling and probably

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Speaker 3: not remembering a word about it because it's such an

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Speaker 3: overwhelming experience. But if people and that thing sells out,

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Speaker 3: but if he can get tickets to the enshrinement dinner,

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Speaker 3: they should definitely do it. And also the parade. Now

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Speaker 3: Ken's about ninety thousand. I rode in the parade in

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Speaker 3: two thousand and six. You talk about an experience I had.

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Speaker 3: Sharene Williams at the time four Wards Star Telegram now

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Speaker 3: Pro Football Talk, my closest friend in the league. She

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Speaker 3: had introduced me at the at the one of the

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Speaker 3: was sitting in the front seat. Local people who volunteer

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Speaker 3: were driving. I've told you I love red Corvette growing up.

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Speaker 3: That's the only time I've ever been in one. And

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Speaker 3: every level of garages. And what was really cool, I

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Speaker 3: She was there with her husband, Dick Stockton at the time,

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Speaker 3: and the people were nice enough. And this is what

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Speaker 3: of Famer. And so if you can go to that parade,

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Speaker 3: that is an unbelievable experience to see all those Hall

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Speaker 1: John.

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Speaker 4: The annual meeting up in or Over in Orlando this

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Speaker 4: week one, well, there are two big things that happened

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Speaker 4: the hip drop tackle change, but the kickoffs are changing.

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Speaker 1: They're going to the XFL style.

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Speaker 4: It's not one hundred percent analogous, but it's pretty darnk close.

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Speaker 4: What do you think of that change being made to

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Speaker 3: I think there's going to be radical changes coming. They

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Speaker 3: went from thinking about abandoning it, abandoning it and letting

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Speaker 3: the team take the ball at twenty five to this

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Speaker 3: radical change. I've read and watched everything I can about

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Speaker 3: the XFL, and it's interesting because this new version of

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Speaker 3: the XFL and the USFL, the UFL is not using it.

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Speaker 3: But it was fun to watch all those videos the

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Speaker 3: strategy that it went into it. And I'll guarantee you

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Speaker 3: if Frank Ross, who's had the best special teams in

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Speaker 3: in the years before that, he's going to be like

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Speaker 3: he can scheme. It opens up reverses, fake reverses, backward passes,

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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, which is your thirty five. The

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Speaker 3: there were players peeling back to take a reverse. A

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Speaker 3: and they would fake it reverse to one side, give

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Speaker 3: you want to know what's going on with us, there's

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Speaker 3: some great story. He's in the athletic ESPN that have

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Speaker 3: a lot of video of not only just the rules,

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Speaker 3: bad for the defensive players. You know, you're sitting there

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Speaker 3: I can't grab him from behind and pull him down

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Speaker 3: well put an ax on a target on a guy's

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Speaker 3: uniform showing where he can be hit. But because it's

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Speaker 3: all about offense, scoring was down a little bit this year.

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Speaker 3: The NFL always panics. They say it's because of safety,

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Speaker 3: and yes, they want people to be safe. But they

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Speaker 3: also want to keep offens and scoring in there because

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Speaker 3: they know that those offensive scoring is what gets them

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Speaker 3: the big numbers on television and all streaming. And we

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Speaker 3: all know the NFL owners need as much money as

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of big numbers, Christmas Day viewing this past

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that Bill O'Brien was certainly one of

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Speaker 3: just Patriot fans would revel and I wanted to see

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Speaker 3: warts and all, and they painted everybody thinks they painted

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Speaker 3: Belichick as a villain, and you know he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: a rats you know what. But I think it's fascinating.

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Speaker 3: It's on Apple TV. It's one of the best things

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Speaker 3: I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Wait, spoiler alert, Johnny, because I haven't seen the final episodes.

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Speaker 2: Do they go over Craft's situation that occurred?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Of course, not interesting.

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Speaker 4: No, just copyright twenty twenty four. Craft Productions. Just kick

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Speaker 4: that in mind.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that explains a lot. General, Houston Texans dot com.

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Speaker 2: We love your stuff on Houston Texans dot com at

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Speaker 2: rocks what's your latest?

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Speaker 3: I got one posted this morning. I talked to John

447
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Speaker 3: about it. I wanted to get his expertise to find

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Speaker 3: out if I was very off base. And I'm writing

449
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Speaker 3: everything now about the draft. But my dream three guys

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Speaker 3: that I would like to see them get. I think

451
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Speaker 3: their biggest needs defensive tackle. Second is a corner, and

452
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Speaker 3: because even though they're signing these guys doesn't mean any

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Speaker 3: of them is going to be good enough to start

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Speaker 3: opposite Derek Stingley Junior. And also because Stingley has missed

455
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Speaker 3: so much time his first two years, you got to

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Speaker 3: be prepared for it. But so I have. I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you who they are. My first pick, My dream scenario

458
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Speaker 3: in the second round is Bradon Fiskey, defensive tackle FULLID State.

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Speaker 3: Put on such a big show at the Combin and

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Speaker 3: I think he'd be great right next to the Nico Autrey.

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Speaker 3: And then my second one would have been a corner.

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Speaker 3: But I think Malachi Corley from Western Kentucky. I went

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Speaker 3: back and looked at what Deebo Samuel did coming out

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Speaker 3: of South Carolina. Second round pick compared to what Porley

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Speaker 3: can do, and they're just almost the same, except Corley

466
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Speaker 3: benched to twenty five twenty I believe six times and

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Speaker 3: debo done fifteen fifteen is great for a receiver. But

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Speaker 3: Corley's five eleven and.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty seven. He had twenty seven General, it.

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Speaker 3: Did twenty seven. That's amazing. You see some seven that

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Speaker 3: don't do that.

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Speaker 4: Juice did as a as a frame reference ju Scruggs,

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Speaker 4: and I thought it was a good number.

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Speaker 1: He had twenty nine wow last year.

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Speaker 3: Which which yeah, is good. But this guy's unbelievably strong.

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Speaker 3: He's called him the Yak King for his yards after

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Speaker 3: to catch but and then my third one and he

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Speaker 3: won't be there when the Texans pig but they Sarah

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Speaker 3: likes to make trades. He's got two fours to play with.

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Speaker 3: Is cornerback Max Melton?

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Speaker 1: All right? General, thanks a lot for joining us. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate it as always, Thank you guys very much.

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Speaker 2: There's John McClain from Houston Texans dot com, among other things,

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Speaker 2: and we love having him on this show. Coming up

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Speaker 2: more likely to happen with Johnny, We've got kick return stuff,

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Speaker 2: Texans quarterback stuff. Other stuff. It's Texans Radio. Right back

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Speaker 2: to it here on Texans Radio. Mark Vandermir, John Harris

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Speaker 2: with you. Where it's Thursday. It's around six thirty, and

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Speaker 2: that means we play. More likely to happen, all right, Johnny,

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Speaker 2: more likely to happen. Kick returner for your Texans and

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Speaker 2: mine and all of ours in twenty twenty four. Damian

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Speaker 2: Pierce or the field? Oh kick returner? Is it Pierce

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Speaker 2: or the field? I get excited thinking about Pierce with

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Speaker 2: this new kickoff arrangement where he just catches it and

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Speaker 2: bowls people over. He'll have I think you'll have a

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Speaker 2: great op opportunity to get into one seam, you know,

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Speaker 2: one less less traffic, you know, able to make one

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Speaker 2: man miss or run through him and maybe he's gone

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Speaker 2: for a while.

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Speaker 1: What do you think.

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Speaker 4: I I'm gonna say the field only because I agree

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Speaker 4: with you. I do think that Damian Pierce is gonna

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Speaker 4: be Taylor made for those I just have a feeling

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Speaker 4: that now in the draft, you may look at somebody

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Speaker 4: maybe like Damian Pierce, you know, with running back qualities.

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Speaker 4: You may look at Anayah Smith from Texas A and

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Speaker 4: m a little bit harder now because of what he

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Speaker 4: could do and what you want to put in it.

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Speaker 4: I just think I think it's gonna be kind of

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Speaker 4: tough with I don't know. It's a hard question because

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Speaker 4: I really want to lean Damien. But I feel like

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Speaker 4: man with time to look in the draft now and

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Speaker 4: go back through everybody's notes and go, Okay, which of

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Speaker 4: your guys do you think would best fit this situation?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think this guy from you know, Arizona.

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Speaker 4: I think Dylan Louby from out of New Hampshire's guy

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Speaker 4: I talked a lot about, Man, He would be really

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Speaker 4: good in that. Do you need that guy to be?

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Speaker 4: Are you gonna take chances? Are you gonna have throwbacks?

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Speaker 4: Are you gonna run it like an offensive play? Is

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Speaker 4: there gonna be some option? Like, there's gonna be all

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Speaker 4: kinds of things going on. I'm gonna lean the field

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Speaker 4: just because I think there's so much unknown about it.

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Speaker 4: But I feel, gut feel, is day one, game one,

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Speaker 4: whoever that might be, I think it's gonna be Damien

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Speaker 4: back there to just see how that looks.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that'll be the guy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, Steven Simms is coming back to the Texans,

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Speaker 4: you could be a guy. Do you go with two Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you can go with two guys back there as well.

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Speaker 4: So I think you could go with with two guys

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Speaker 4: back there, and maybe they're maybe they're Steven Simms and

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Speaker 4: Damian Pierce kind of different, you know, a different look.

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Speaker 4: And maybe what Frank Gross comes up with is, you know,

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Speaker 4: a different type scheme on one side, a different type

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Speaker 4: scheme on the other one for Damien one for the

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Speaker 4: other returner, be it Steven Simms or somebody else. So

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna lean the field, but I feel like

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Speaker 4: Damien's gonna have an impact on kickoff. In fact, I

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Speaker 4: just did my position breakdown on running backs sent it

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Speaker 4: in so hopefully it's going to be put up this

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Speaker 4: weekend so you can check that out.

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Speaker 1: And the running backs they've got, they got to step up.

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Speaker 4: One of the things I said about Damien was, yeah,

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Speaker 4: those returns are something that he can add to his

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Speaker 4: reports war and kind of be in all purpose back

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Speaker 4: if he's not the number one guy with Joe here.

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Speaker 2: One of the top questions I was getting at the

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Speaker 2: NFL Annual Meeting, the Ownerart's meetings, Damian Pierce really think yeah,

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Speaker 2: because they see what happened with the signing of Joe

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Speaker 2: Mixon no more, Devin Singletary.

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Speaker 1: What about Pierce? What happened? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why wasn't it as good in the sophomore camp A lot?

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Speaker 2: I said, Well, nobody's going to give up on him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's going to get another shot and

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Speaker 2: try to make the most of it.

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Speaker 1: You want to hear weird?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Not really? I guess it's a stat. I guess it's

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Speaker 1: a stat. Two things.

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Speaker 4: Question one, When was the last time a Texans running

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Speaker 4: back ran for over eleven hundred yards?

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Speaker 1: This season? Arian? What here? Oh? So wasn't it wasn't fourteen? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What's fourteen? Twenty fourteen? So that was his last year?

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Speaker 1: The last?

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Speaker 4: Rightly, that's the last time Texas running back has gone

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Speaker 4: over eleven hundred yards?

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Speaker 2: Wow, We've just got a little over one thousand with

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Speaker 2: hide with Lamar Miller.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Lamar Miller had over one thousand. I think it's

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Speaker 4: sixteen since twenty eighteen. We have had a different leading

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Speaker 4: rusher since twenty eighteen, leading rusher every year.

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Speaker 1: So Miller Hi twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: David Johnson, Oh boy, Rex Burkehead, Amian Pierce, Devin singletary,

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Speaker 4: and it's going to be somebody different, be it Damien

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Speaker 4: or Joe, presumably Joe. That'll be what seven straight years

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Speaker 4: of a different running back leading the team in rushing.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's hard to have a guy who's just there

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Speaker 2: every year. Even Arian Foster he gets for just.

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Speaker 1: Like a couple years.

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Speaker 4: You'd have a guy like a couple of years, you know,

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Speaker 4: little two year stretch. You know, Lamar Miller was three

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Speaker 4: year stretch sixteen seventeen eighteen. And I've always said Lamar

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Speaker 4: was a lot better than people gave him credit for,

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Speaker 4: but he was just never able to use probably the

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Speaker 4: way he should have been used.

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Speaker 1: But three year stretch, Lamar Mitlough, I'd take that. I

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Speaker 1: take that right now.

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Speaker 4: Just a three year, good, solid stretch from Joe Mixon

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Speaker 4: or somebody, just to know you've got some consistency at

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Speaker 4: the running back position.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's just keep it rolling here because we're doing

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Speaker 2: more likely to happen. And that was about kick returning,

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Speaker 2: and that new rule will be showcased for the very

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Speaker 2: first time in the Hall of Fame game the Texans

596
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Speaker 2: playing the Bears on August first, So we don't know

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Speaker 2: what it's going to look like, and we don't know

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Speaker 2: what the lineup is going to look like. So this

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Speaker 2: more likely to happen scenario involves c J. Stroup more

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Speaker 2: likely number of preseason game appearances two or three out

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Speaker 2: of the four you got four now with the Houston

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Speaker 2: Texans instead of three. So does he play in two

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Speaker 2: or three of these contests this preseason?

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Speaker 4: I'd like to answer this one to night the schedule

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Speaker 4: ale thease comes out. And here's why I say that,

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Speaker 4: because if we end up we are the team, we

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Speaker 4: are the road team going to Kansas City this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that means we'll be in the opener.

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Speaker 4: If we're in the opener, it's two. I think it's two.

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Speaker 4: I think if we're not in the opener, I could

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Speaker 4: see it being three. A series in the second game,

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Speaker 4: a couple series in third game, maybe a series in

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Speaker 4: the fourth game.

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Speaker 1: And that's it.

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Speaker 4: Gotta dodge, keep healthy, move on to the next. I

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Speaker 4: just and we've talked about this two of us with Dre.

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Speaker 4: We've talked about how quarterbacks seem to struggle early in

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Speaker 4: a season that haven't been in preseason games just to

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Speaker 4: get some of those reps and look, preseason speeds not

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Speaker 4: game speed, is not playoff speed, is not Super Bowl speed.

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Speaker 4: But you're out there, you're out there, and there is

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Speaker 4: some increase in the game speed from what you're doing

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Speaker 4: in practice to what you're doing on on the field,

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Speaker 4: and just to get those reps out on a field

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Speaker 4: to take a hit when as you're trying to throw

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Speaker 4: what you're gonna do during the year.

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Speaker 1: So I really would I would love to say zero.

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Speaker 4: I don't even honestly need the C CJ in any

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Speaker 4: of those preseason games.

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Speaker 1: But I want to make sure that we come out

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Speaker 1: of the gate shooting.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to I don't want to

633
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Speaker 4: be firing blanks out of the shoot because we just

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Speaker 4: haven't had enough game speed.

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Speaker 2: Reps to get seven seven weeks of camp, Johnny, seven

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Speaker 2: weeks prior to the regular season opener.

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Speaker 1: Usually it's six.

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Speaker 2: Now you get the extra week. There's a long haul

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Speaker 2: here that this team's going to go through. That's why

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Speaker 2: a lot of coaches don't want to be in this

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game. But you're going to get a

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Speaker 2: long look at your third and fourth teamers and really

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Speaker 2: see what they've got for you, and look everybody handles

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Speaker 2: preseason a little bit differently. Every year you're seeing less

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Speaker 2: and less playing time. But you're right, you need to

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Speaker 2: get some reps, and I know Andre is a big

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Speaker 2: believer in that as well.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the next one here, you're likely to

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Speaker 1: happen all right.

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Speaker 2: Back to running Backville for a moment here more successful

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. Josh Jacobs in green Bay, Sakuon

652
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: Barkley in Philly. Texans will be at Green Bay this year,

653
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: not playing the Eagles or playing the Cowboys.

654
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: But I thought I'd bring up Barkley.

655
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: These are two high hi level acquisitions for these squads,

656
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: Jacobs and green Bay, Barkley and Philly.

657
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Barkley and Philly. I know that who

658
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: I know.

659
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 4: Barkley loses Jason Kelcey up front, but they drafted. Howie

660
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 4: Roseman drafted and was afforded the opportunity to draft guys

661
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 4: to eventually fill the positions of veterans.

662
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: You know.

663
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 4: He drafted Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis to eventually replace

664
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 4: Fletcher Cox. He drafted Clay cam Jurgens and Landon Dickerson

665
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: to eventually replace Jason Kelcey, and that's really what they're

666
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: gonna have to go with. I still think the Philadelphia

667
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 4: offensive line is still really good, and I think the

668
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: weapons that Philadelphia has are.

669
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: Really good, and I think they've got that. In green Bay.

670
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 4: I think it's getting better, but I don't see quite

671
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 4: that offensive line for Josh Jacobs in Green Bay. I

672
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 4: think the green By offensive line has gotten better, but

673
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: I don't think it's where the Eagles lie line is.

674
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go Barkley By just.

675
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: A little bit. I'll throw Henry in there in Baltimore. Oh,

676
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: Henry's gonna slate in Baltimore. Yeah, yeah, I don't like that.

677
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: I don't like that.

678
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 4: Now Baltimore lost both of its starting guards and John

679
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 4: Simpson and Kevin Zeitler lost both of them. That's not

680
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 4: gonna be good for them.

681
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: Morgan Moses ended up signing somewhere else.

682
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: So the Ravens gotta find some offensive line pieces. But

683
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 4: it's Derek Henry back there with Lamar Jackson and when

684
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: they got when they thank god, they come to Energy Stadium.

685
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 4: But still on this turf man, they're gonna be fast,

686
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 4: really fast. But if there's anything that I want to

687
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 4: do this year. I want to beat the Ravens with

688
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson. Oh yeah, I know we couldn't beat him

689
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: up there. We still haven't beaten him up there. But

690
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: just beat Lamar Jackson once. Just do it, just to

691
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: know that you can.

692
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: So, Mike McDonald, I told you about this off the air. Yeah.

693
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: I actually talked with he and his wife for a while.

694
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: Ale and he goes back with the Ravens. I know

695
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: he left again to be their d C. But he

696
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: goes back aways and he has that McVeigh like mind.

697
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: For plays and games.

698
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: And he was talking about the Ravens coming here in

699
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, and we always talk about that game. Yeah,

700
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, we kind of got the better of

701
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: you that day with he said yeah with he finished

702
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: the sentence with Keenum coming out of nowhere, I said,

703
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,479
Speaker 2: actually a deer blind. So it wasn't literally quite nowhere,

704
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: but pretty close, pretty close to nowhere. Yeah, but he's

705
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: he's a great guy. And he said Dimiko has been

706
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: a big help to him, and I said, yeah, because

707
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: he wants to get you out of Baltimore exactly. But

708
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: Dimiko has been a big help to him, and I'll

709
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: follow his progress in Seattle. Yeah, we'll see those three backs.

710
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: How about how about another one here? As we talk

711
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: about running backs in the division.

712
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 3: More likely to happen, all right.

713
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: More likely to be the leading rusher in Tennessee Taja

714
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Spears or Tony Pollard.

715
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: What are you thinking here, Spears? You know, I'm a

716
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: big fan of Spears, yep.

717
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 4: I wanted him here last year, and I want to

718
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 4: say that Nick said something about doing a lot of

719
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 4: work on Spears, and so I felt good about that

720
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 4: that I was going down the right road that you know,

721
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 4: if they liked him as much as they did. I

722
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 4: loved him, and I thought he would have been really,

723
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: really good here. I think he's gonna be Spears Now.

724
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 4: Is it gonna be all about the running game for him?

725
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: No?

726
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 4: I think spears impact is gonna be thirty five forty

727
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 4: receptions on top of what he gives you on the ground.

728
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 4: I feel like Spears can be you know, Devin Singletary

729
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 4: for the Titans, and I really don't want to wouldn't

730
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: want to face Motor. But that Titans offensive line has

731
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: got some room to improve. They've added the cushion barr

732
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 4: Att Center. But in Scaronsky the draft last year at guards.

733
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 4: That's two decent pieces, but tackles that they have right now,

734
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: no go. So they've got a draft one. You heard

735
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 4: John say earlier, John mcclin say earlier, it's Joe All.

736
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's totally gonna be Joe All,

737
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: but it's gonna be a tackle.

738
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: They got to get a tackle.

739
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 4: Fact, when I did my two ron mock at football

740
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 4: Takeover dot Com, I gave them tackles in the first

741
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: two rounds.

742
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: Okay, because it's that it's.

743
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: That dire for what they have there on the offensive line.

744
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: But I think it's gonna end up being Spears. And

745
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 4: he's definitely not a guy I would love to tackle.

746
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 4: I mean, he could just make you miss all over

747
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 4: the field. Then he can run over you because he's powerful.

748
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 4: He's rebounded from two ACL surgeries in his college career

749
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: really really well.

750
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: And I don't like it. I don't like it. All right,

751
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: let's get to this. More likely to happen, all right, more.

752
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: Likely to happen as far as a better finish. We've

753
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: done this, but it's a refresh because I'm gonna do

754
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: it again, Okay, Jags or Colts because we heard what

755
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: the general said when I asked who helped themselves the

756
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: most in the AFC, Well, it's certainly not the Colts.

757
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: So that doesn't mean they're not going to be good though,

758
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: because they do have a lot of guys that are

759
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: really good.

760
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: That line's good.

761
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: They just resign people, and they resigned Pittman and they

762
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: Grover stewarted again. Yep, that's a verb now, Grover stewarted. Yeah,

763
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: So what do you think? Well, here's my question.

764
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 4: And I love our guy John Lopez, but he's talking

765
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 4: about all these different things that the Jaguars have done

766
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 4: this offseason, and I'm like, you know, offensively, like Mitch

767
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: Morse was a capcast team Baltimore. If Mitch Morris was

768
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: all that in a bag of chips, he would have

769
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: stayed in Buffalo. Gabe Davis could pick, But is Gabe

770
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 4: Davis should number one wide receiver? And if it's not,

771
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 4: it's Christian kirk So and I know Armstead's added, but

772
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 4: you know, look, he's his thirties and they paid a

773
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: lot of money. So if Faerk Armstead doesn't work out

774
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 4: and he's coming off an injury and they haven't signed

775
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, yet, so I'm not totally convinced that Jackson

776
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 4: has done a whole heck of a lot. They've made moves,

777
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: but even if they had signed Ridley, I'm not totally

778
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: convinced that would have been a great move for them either.

779
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: So they've got to consider what they got to do

780
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: with Trevor Lawrence. I'm just more fearful of the Colts,

781
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 4: and maybe it's just long over due, long held PTSD

782
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: from them, but I feel like Shane Steichen is an.

783
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: Excellent football coach.

784
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 4: I think them winning nine games last year really with

785
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 4: with Gardner Minshew was really I don't want to say

786
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: all about Stichen and Chris Ballard some of the moves

787
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 4: they made, but I think it was really about them.

788
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: But I just fear. I fear the Colts. They just

789
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: brought back guys that were really important to them. I'll

790
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 4: ask you this, though, Ye do you see the report

791
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 4: from Stephen Holder that the second team or the other

792
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: the other woman, if you will, for Daniel Hunter was

793
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 4: the Innapolis Colts.

794
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: Yes, and our guy picked Houston. Listen. I forgot that

795
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: and I just beamed from ear to ear.

796
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: I was like, Yes, I forgot to text this to you,

797
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: because I was too busy brainstorming what meme I was

798
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: going to use, what gift you know, whether it was

799
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: the smiling dog, just something of just total happiness that

800
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: Daniel Hunter actually took less money to be with the

801
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: Houston Texans. Here's what I want to know, And maybe

802
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: somebody could do the quick math. State income tax they

803
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: have it.

804
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: There, we don't have it here.

805
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: Correct that factors in does and I'd be surprised. He's

806
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: a bright guy if he didn't take that into consideration.

807
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: Even if it's still a little bit less, it's probably

808
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: not that much less than people thought. Or maybe it's

809
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: actually even more because they don't have state income tax

810
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 2: on that gigantic paycheck he's gonna get.

811
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,479
Speaker 4: Yep, it's not California state income tax. It's thirteen percent.

812
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what is Indianapolis. But still, you know,

813
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 4: when you're talking those numbers, it's a it's a decent

814
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: number that you're giving back to the state of Indiana.

815
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 4: So you much rather just keep in your pocket and

816
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 4: come on home to Texas. So I'm glad. When I

817
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 4: saw that, I was like, oh, this is awesome. Here's

818
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: the other thing that it told me it tells you

819
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: that the Colts are not completely happy with their edge rushers. Yeah,

820
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: and that was the first thing that stood out, Like,

821
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: wait a second, they went after Daniel Hunter.

822
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: That tells you they're not totally pleased with them. Well,

823
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: how about this, I mean, they're gonna draft one at fifteen?

824
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe because the Texans were trying to get

825
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: the deal done with Armstead or for Armstead right, reportedly, right,

826
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: and then they ended up with Hunters. So right, we're fine, right, fine,

827
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: meaning Autry, fine Hunter? Fine, you got Will Anderson on

828
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: the other side. Fine, fine, fine, what do the cults

829
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: really add? They might have to add through the draft.

830
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Johnny, you got a mark. Final segment. Next,

831
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: to close it out, we'll get to a number of

832
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: things related to the NFL Annual Meeting otherwise known as

833
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: the Owner's meetings.

834
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: Did you guys get this straight yet? How it has

835
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: two different names? Who cares? Right?

836
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: But I'm going to empty the notebook and give you

837
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: the stat of the week. The stat of the week

838
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: as far as the future of football, you're gonna want

839
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: to hear this. Among other things that we'll discuss, it's

840
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: Texans all access back to it. As I said before

841
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: the break, we've got some things to get to from

842
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: the NFL Annual Meeting otherwise known as the Owner's meetings.

843
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 2: And do you really need me to tell you that again?

844
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: But it's just one of those things, the semantics of things,

845
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 2: like us radio anouncwers needing to tell you for some reason,

846
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: great to be with you on a Thursday. If you

847
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: need us to tell you what date is, you might

848
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: have larger issues. But for some reason we do it anyway,

849
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: Or we say silly stuff like at the top of

850
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: the hour, at the bottom of the hour? Who talks

851
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: like that? You never say that, honey, I'll be home

852
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: at the top of the hour.

853
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: No, you don't. So I don't know why we do it.

854
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: We just do it.

855
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: It's radio lingo and it just sticks with us. Or

856
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: repeating the phone number of the station several times when

857
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 2: we're never going to take a call, or we don't

858
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: take many calls anyway, that happens a lot. I'm speaking

859
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: collectively as radio announcers get to the point. Vandermere, all right,

860
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: I am now key stats coming out of the NFL

861
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: Annual Meeting. Here's one of them, twenty ten, which wasn't

862
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: that long ago. For those of us who are a

863
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: little bit more season just seems like last Tuesday to me,

864
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: twenty ten. But in twenty ten, shotgun plays twenty eight

865
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Speaker 2: percent of the time. So your NFL average was twenty

866
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: eight percent in the shotgun on offense. This past season

867
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: sixty percent. Think about that. That's a huge jump, more

868
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: than double. I can do that math more than double

869
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: since twenty ten. So the majority of snaps that you

870
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: watch are out of the shotgun. And you know how

871
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: when we evaluate college quarterbacks sometimes we say, well, that

872
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: guy doesn't take the snap from center. He's gonna have

873
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: to learn it and take the snap from center. They're

874
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: all in the shotgun all the time in the NFL anyway.

875
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: I mean, sixty percent isn't all the time, but clearly

876
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: some teams are doing a little bit more. Some teams

877
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: are doing it a little bit less. But I thought

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00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: that was notable. Another notable statistic, and I think this

879
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: one is even bigger for the future of football. Statistic

880
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: coming out of the NFL annual Meeting, high school football

881
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: participation not flag, high school football participation tackle football with

882
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: helmets and gear up six percent last year. That is

883
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: a huge number because for years it was going down.

884
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: And believe me, the league noticed. They didn't like that.

885
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: Everybody's been trying to make this game safer, and I

886
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: think the six percent increase in participation for high schools

887
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: speaks to parents feeling like, hey, maybe it's a little

888
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: bit safer that I thought, or the advances they've made

889
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 2: have really helped. Whatever the case may be, participation is up.

890
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: You want more people playing football, you want it to

891
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: be safe for your kids. Flag football way up. It's

892
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: skyrocketing an Olympics sport. In twenty twenty eight and DeAndre Hopkins,

893
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: Nuke was at the NFL annual meeting because he has

894
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: a couple of flag football leagues that he sponsors, so

895
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: they had him on a panel. They had Michael Robinson,

896
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: they had a couple of other people there, Steve Young,

897
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 2: and Nuke was talking about how he loves the sport,

898
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: he loves getting kids involved with the sport, especially under

899
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: privileged kids if possible, and he wants to play in

900
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: the Olympics, and he admits that by then, you know,

901
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: another four years, he might not be at the top

902
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: of his game anymore. Maybe he's not going to be

903
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 2: on that team, But it really sparks your imagination. Who

904
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: could possibly be on that team, you know, Tyreek Hill

905
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: or a Tyreek Hill type being on the US flag

906
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: football team for the Olympics just awesome to think about.

907
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: I highly recommend it sport. You know that, and the

908
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: league is all over it. I mean, they had so

909
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: much stuff about flag football. They feel like, and they

910
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: don't say this quite out loud, I think, but they

911
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: feel like the more people that play flag football, the

912
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 2: more people that want to watch football. Because even though

913
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 2: it's not the whole game of football, it's not blocking,

914
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: it's not offensive line defensive line. It is pass rushing,

915
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: but in a different way. You're pulling a flag, you're

916
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: not trying to tackle people. But it still makes you

917
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: feel like, Hey, you know, I catch a ball, I

918
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: catch a touchdown. I'm like my favorite NFL receiver. And

919
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: I've coached flag football for over a decade. I've said

920
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: this before and I've told kids that was a lot

921
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: like play in that they disrupted a pass, they tipped

922
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: the ball, they pulled the flag of the quarterback, so

923
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: they sacked him before he was able to get the

924
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: pass off. So there's so many different dynamics of it

925
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: that relate to NFL football, and I think the league

926
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: feels like this is great for the game, for viewership,

927
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: and it's obviously great for kids health to participate in

928
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: a sport like that. And coaching tip I say this

929
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: from time to time, don't huddle so much, or huddle less.

930
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: Less huddling coaches who participate in flag football instruction, It's

931
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Speaker 2: great that you're volunteering to do this, but don't huddle

932
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: for a minute between plays, and believe me, you're taking

933
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: way more time than you think you are. Just have

934
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: a few simple plays. Let the kids play. More snaps

935
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: in the game means more fun for everybody. I'm running

936
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Speaker 2: out of show here, but we're going to be back tomorrow,

937
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: big show. We'll have a Texan's player. We're not going

938
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Speaker 2: to say who it is till tomorrow, so you'll have

939
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: to wait on that. Dan Leberfeld, who covers the Jets

940
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: and the entire league for Serious x MNFL Radio in

941
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: a publication slash website he has called Jets Confidential. He's

942
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: got a lot of great thoughts on them, but a

943
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: lot of great thoughts on the league. We'll have him

944
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: on the show as well, so it's going to be

945
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: a fun Friday, and I know it's a very important

946
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 2: weekend for many of you and we're all looking forward

947
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: to it. That's the show. Thank you, John McClain, thank

948
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Speaker 2: you John Harris, have a great night. Thanks for listening.

949
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Speaker 2: Go Texans.