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Speaker 1: a phenomenon, and yes, and that's exciting because no one

423
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: wants like a you know, a quiff in the wind,

424
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: like you want like a big disaster, Like yeah, that's

425
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: exactly right. It's always like like I was watching that

426
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: documentary about Alan Carr, who produced the Academy Awards. You know,

427
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: White and Rob Low in the opening, and that to

428
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: me and you should watch is eleven minutes and it

429
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: really is a crash and burn on this royal scale.

430
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: And and those are really the spectacles that like Mark times. Yeah, yeah,

431
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean it's not fun if they take if things

432
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 1: just barely happen exactly. Yeah. Like it's like I find

433
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: that with a lot of these big movies that come

434
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: out now, Like it's like they come out and then

435
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: they're gone. It's like, give me a fucking moment. Remember,

436
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: Like I remember when Disney would release a movie in

437
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: the late nineties, Like I remember distinctly when Pocahona's came out.

438
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: There was like a huge concert that was like Vanessa

439
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: Williams singing in like an eight hundred foot gown and

440
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: she sang Colors of the Wind and leaves flew around,

441
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, I guess we're getting

442
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: kind of close to it with like they they eventized

443
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: lyon King a little bit and I just saw a

444
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: lion king um, But it was like, I don't know,

445
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: I feel like with these movies that there's so many

446
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: teenpoles they just kind of happened and then they were gone,

447
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: Like Spider Man Far from Home like happened and then

448
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: it was gone. And that's because there's so much rights cycle. Yeah,

449
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: like just people stopped talking about something after a week,

450
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: no matter what it is, which is like why I

451
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: love these end of the year musicals. Like in the

452
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: same way that you're saying, it's like Cats is already

453
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: an event. Yeah, this is already a cultural event. And

454
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: I was just saying in the last episode, like these

455
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: women next to me, who, by the way, narrated the

456
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: whole Lion King, which I would have it no other way. Um,

457
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: they fully were like the trailer happened, and the one

458
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: girl goes to the other, look what they have. Jennifer

459
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: Hudson wearing watched this, and they watched it and they're

460
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: cracking up laughing, and then they go, well, now we

461
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: know what we're not going to see. And I turned

462
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: to them and I said, You'll be there, I'll be there,

463
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: We'll I'll be there, And then they started laughing because

464
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: we all knew it was true. We're all going to

465
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Speaker 1: see I love the you made friends at a movie theater. Well,

466
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: I mean if they didn't want attention. That was then

467
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: that was unclear because they wanted at that. I once

468
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: sat next to British ladies at brunch and they said,

469
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: these pancakes are mental. British people with the breakfast, I'll

470
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: never forget mental. One time I was like sixteen, like

471
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: working at in a seafood place and we served breakfast

472
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: and these British people were like, do you have preserves?

473
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: And I was like, the fuck is the preserve? Not

474
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: knowing that could imagine to be like, well, I can't

475
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: just have clotted cream on my shop. What do you?

476
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: What do you mental? Preserves? You need? You both need

477
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: to start watching Love Island. You both need to start watching.

478
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: It's something that gets said to me a lot. It's

479
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: phenomenal you are you a Bachelor person or I'm not,

480
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: But I did watch. I did watch one season and

481
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: I like the Bachelors. There's so many female characters the Bachelor.

482
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: It is a nightmare, a nightmare, that's just I mean,

483
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: are you iconically Julie is a is a housewife's person.

484
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm so glad, I mean, and I'm sorry, Like as

485
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: as Vulture recappers me and Matt, I mean, I feel

486
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: like you set the model for like comedian recapper for

487
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: for a TV But that was fun. That was fun.

488
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: But um, I, but are you of in a proper

489
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: roles person? I so this is gonna sound so snotty,

490
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: and I feel bad for anyone I alienate by saying

491
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: that after Trump won, I stopped watching any house any problem.

492
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: I just get that. And I don't mean to be

493
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: like judgment. I'm certainly not people that because I certainly did,

494
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: but like, I just can't hang out. I can't watch

495
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: and spend company with people that aren't very smart right now.

496
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: It's just not just not funny to me right now,

497
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: I hear you. And also there's something too, I think

498
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: as honestly, like, yeah, that's that's so interesting because post

499
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: the Trump thing is when I got into to it,

500
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's because I was like, it's fully

501
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: escapism for me. It's like it's like a fully opposite absolutely,

502
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: but you watch it now and all I can think

503
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: about is Okay, Well, um, Luanne and Sonia clearly voted

504
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: for Trump. Well they yea Ramona says she didn't vote,

505
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: which to me, it was definitely Ramona and like Bethany,

506
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: Bethany Dorenda, maybe Tinsley are like the only people who

507
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: are let you know, okay, so this is what this is. Literally,

508
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen asked the question of them at this New

509
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: York reunion and it was who voted for Hillary? Dorinda,

510
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: Bethany and Carol, Carol Shildly raised their hands and then

511
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: he goes, okay, so did you vote for Trump? And

512
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: the rest of them wouldn't raise their hands. They were

513
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: just like, we don't want to talk about it. And

514
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: that was Luanne, Ramona and Sonya, which so reads. And

515
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: then Tinsley was like, I didn't vote that. And they

516
00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: sent to Tinsley and they're like, you didn't vote. She

517
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: was like yeah, and they were like where are you registered?

518
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: And she's like, Florida. I thought she was gonna say, um,

519
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: Harry Winston register, but she was like she literally was

520
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: like I'm not a political person. And it was just

521
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: this moment they started scoring it. Yeah I can't. I

522
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: just can't do it anymore. And again like nothing but

523
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: respect for Andy Ko and I think is just like

524
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: a ringleader of a foth modern age. But but yeah,

525
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: it just and it wasn't like a decision, It just

526
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: was a switch in my brain. I you know, he

527
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: wont and I started rewatching all these movies that I loved.

528
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: You know. That's so at least again pushed you in

529
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: that direction, which is well. And also like the movies

530
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: that you've seen are my favorite kinds of movies. Like

531
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: whenever I'm browsing on Netflix, I'm like, oh, this is

532
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: a good category, and it's always like watch it again

533
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: because you know how they end. And I to, you know,

534
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: connect everything to the election. But there is some like

535
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: you know, finite like taste based identity that you have

536
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: to like marinate in a little flick your wounds. Oh

537
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: my god, it actually that makes sense to me. And

538
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know what about myself, but I

539
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: think you're right. Like I will watch Clueless five thousand

540
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: times a year because and I watched it with a

541
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: bunch of like I watched it in Palm Springs. I

542
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: was like a bunch of game and Lewis was there

543
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: and we were all just reciting it as it was

544
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: going and it was the most fun thing about the vacation.

545
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: And people used to do that in church, you know.

546
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: That's how and that's actually is my religion. And I

547
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: am allowed to know and it's a good one. Yeah,

548
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: But knowing all the words and having that community and

549
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: having something that you worship and that you have like

550
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: comfort from me, it's a blessing. And also that movie

551
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: is perfect, But that is that is not a this

552
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: is not aneath. What Julia said about like needing like

553
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: a taste centered identity in order to lick your rooms

554
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: from this like traumatic world experience is like, that's this

555
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: is a recent thing that I've been I've talked to

556
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: you about this where I'm just like playing cultural catch

557
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: up with like and like we're we're like Julian and

558
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: I are in the room this room all the time,

559
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: like talking about like old movies and the things that

560
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: I have not seen, and it's like I need to know.

561
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: It's an imperative that I'm making in my brain to

562
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: watch and consume these things because it's a part of

563
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: what like, yeah, it's a part of culture, but it's

564
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: it's kind of part of what we all do is

565
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: to like reference these things. It's also like, I mean

566
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: gay men like you look at like Vito Russo, who

567
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: like established the Cannon. He would have screenings on his

568
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: roof of Betty Davis movies because it was very important

569
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: to him that the gay community you know, got their

570
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, vegetables and went to school like it was

571
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: just children. I forgot children, absolutely, And I just I

572
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: think that there is something to cannon and you know,

573
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: it's just's nice to have a you know, even though

574
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: like everyone gay men like, it's fun to you know,

575
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: insult each other like it is a real community and

576
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: it is like culturally like that. You know, we have

577
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: this great book club, the Secret book Club. I meanly said,

578
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: like like any sort of like little drama that happens

579
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: amongst the group of gay friends like in the grand

580
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: scheme does not fucking matter. Like we would all kind

581
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: of like have each other's backs anyway. And there is

582
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: this kind of like language yes where lesbian lesbians World

583
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: War three literally if not if lights aren't out of nine,

584
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 1: we're fighting, we're fighting. But yeah, I know that is

585
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: that is very true. Here's the question I have for everyone, Um,

586
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: what is the one thing that you know you should

587
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: have seen or like like that that you haven't as

588
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: I know my I think I have. I have. I

589
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: have many answers to this, but I have one that's

590
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: that's informed by Julie. I think really because mine is

591
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: bris Mary's baby, because I know how much love it. Yeah, yeah,

592
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: you are Ruth Gordon in that movie. Well, Ruth Gordon

593
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: is so fabulous. But who who's the guy you? I

594
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: think you've you've said that that he's like the top

595
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: villain of all times. Yeah, we explain this again like

596
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: he's just don't want to because okay, I'll you got

597
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: to see it. She spits in his face at one

598
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: point and it is like the only triumph unhappy ending.

599
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: But when she does that, which is low. I mean

600
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: you see people kick guys in the balls or slap them,

601
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: but sitting in the face, in his face, and it

602
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: is and he deserves. And also that Mia Pharaoh, the

603
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: children have forgotten that they must remember because the fact

604
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: of the matter is those performances, those horror performances. You

605
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: have to respect that kind of thing, Like Tony Collette

606
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: recently did it in Hereditary, where it's like the kind

607
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: of how difficult it is to discover something that terrifies you.

608
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: And after imagine being an actress reading a script and

609
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: being like okay, cool and then like that that's not

610
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: actual surprise on that screen, that is a tough thing

611
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: to act. And Mia Pharaoh is in a state of constant, realistic,

612
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: grounded disbelief and horror for such a long time, and

613
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: that is a the children have forgotten the legendary performance

614
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: and a survivor. Talk about a survivor. Oh yeah, and

615
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: in real life as well and fragile, Yeah truly. But

616
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm my god an Hereditary. Yeah, you're right, Like just

617
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: I imagine Tony Collett reading it in the scriptlet like

618
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: she discovers that her daughter's beheaded and like that scream

619
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: because you don't see it? Have you seen Hereditary? But

620
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you're you're horror curious curious. I like

621
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: to read yes horror movies on Wikipedia, but I can't

622
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: actually want you see, I'm the same, and like even

623
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: like the two trailer just came out and I know,

624
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: I know it has like Jessica Chastain, who I would

625
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: love to watch act in anything, and I know there's

626
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: like a great trailer featuring her, and I'm like, I

627
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: can't scary. The trailer is horrible. Oh yeah, I saw it.

628
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: I saw it, but I literally was buying I was

629
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: buying food at the like Delhi on my corner the

630
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: other day and the guy goes to me. He never

631
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: speaks to me, he goes, yo, I just watched the

632
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: too trailer and I was like, is it so scary?

633
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Speaker 1: He was like, it's the scariest thing ever, and like

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Speaker 1: we just like bonded over how we weren't going to

635
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Speaker 1: see men that That only goes so far pop culture. Baby,

636
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Speaker 1: but you must see Rosemary's Baby because you could turn

637
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Speaker 1: a great Ruth Gordon. You could do some good Ruth

638
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Speaker 1: Gordon Dragay. Rosemary's Baby is a good companion to the

639
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Speaker 1: original Stepford Wives, not the origin, basically the original get

640
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Speaker 1: out but with totally a genius, genius genius, and Katherine

641
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Speaker 1: Ross is beautiful and she also gives a fabulous performance

642
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Speaker 1: where you could see her the same thing with Tony Colette.

643
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Speaker 1: You can see her like flutter and eyelash and you

644
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Speaker 1: know play like the small moments, the little things that

645
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Speaker 1: are like that are like wow, like that you have

646
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Speaker 1: the rewinding but that is and the remake of it

647
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: truly is like garbage. So don't remember being a little

648
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: kid and well and watching and watching that movie and

649
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: it's even watching the trailer. I remember seeing that trailer

650
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 1: in theme and I was just like, I was like,

651
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: it's Amazon, Amazon Prime. And in that moment of her,

652
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Speaker 1: if you she'd be there that afternoon, that was that

653
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: was get me out of my house. That was her

654
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Speaker 1: like post the Rouge moment where she was like a

655
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Speaker 1: mainstream star in a real way and she was taking

656
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: jobs right. But I just it's this thing that we've

657
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Speaker 1: talked about on the show lately where it's like as

658
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Speaker 1: you're your kid, it's it imprints on you. You You know,

659
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: you don't know why you're responding to it exactly separate wise,

660
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: like there's something about this that I love. Yeah, but

661
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: that's but minus was Mary's baby, what's yours? I mean,

662
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Speaker 1: I'll get murdered, but it's the sound of music because

663
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: I was it's okay, have you seen Cabaret? Yes, you're fine. Well,

664
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Speaker 1: I also grew up maybe maybe maybe this is YouTube,

665
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: but I grew up in a funny girl house. Yeah,

666
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Speaker 1: my mom is a huge barber stand. It's not a

667
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Speaker 1: dicotom thing that but it's what films that niche for me,

668
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like it was like a

669
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Speaker 1: funny girl was what was on all the time, and

670
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: your parents raised you right, here, You're good. You're good.

671
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Speaker 1: And like I was, I think Chris I was talking.

672
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: I was like talking to Chris Schliker about how I

673
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: hadn't seen Sound of Music. It's like, well you should,

674
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not going to watch it now.

675
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: If I watch anything now, it will be the Cary

676
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: Underwood version, so I can laugh. You're not going to

677
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: watch it, ever, though, that's what that's what? That's what.

678
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Have you seen Mary Poppins? Yes, okay, so you know

679
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: Julie Andrews fabulous, brilliant. I prefer her in Mary Poppins

680
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: because she's sort of a dom in that and she's

681
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Speaker 1: very vain and I really like that better than I mean,

682
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's Americana knows how to make an American quilt.

683
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Speaker 1: There you go, it's how to make an American quote.

684
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Speaker 1: Are you saying that you're never intentionally never going to

685
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Speaker 1: see Sounding It's long? But and that's my problem with

686
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: things now. Like Julie was saying before, it's like, I

687
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: don't want to watch something new that's going to take

688
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: up a large chunk of time. I think that's why

689
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: we're seeing television pop off in this way and like

690
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: even shorter and short episodes of things, because it's like

691
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: there is so much. It's not one of four event

692
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: movies to come out in a year, and I know

693
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: that what what its cultural impact is. So I'm good.

694
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Speaker 1: I have like um holes in my like um like

695
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: orson Wells and like a lot of like seventies stuff

696
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: like I never saw like Midnight Cowboy, and I, you know,

697
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: feel bad about that. But like they'll start to watch

698
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: Easy Rider and I'll be like, I just can't do it,

699
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Speaker 1: Like I it's just yeah, unless I'm like baking at

700
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Speaker 1: the same time, things that can be on in the background,

701
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: I guess. But then if and then if it's on

702
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: the background, why not a podcast or why not for

703
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: me right now? Housewives? It's like that kind of deal.

704
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: I guess you could say you're reaching yourself culturally by

705
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: like watching these films of the seventies when cinema was

706
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Speaker 1: very it's very mask it is, but not mask with share, right,

707
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Speaker 1: not mask with share? Wait, I would literally it's so

708
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Speaker 1: that you're saying that for mask, mask per mask, just

709
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: two people who enjoy that movie, that's the new mask

710
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: for masks. Its coach number eleven Masks masks, but yeah, no,

711
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: I was recently, um so a lot of these like

712
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Speaker 1: like Lewis actually I think created this, but he was

713
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: as a lot of these gays. Lewis. Lewis was the

714
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: first person remember asked me, who's in your coven? So

715
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: Covin is like five actresses that like you can recall

716
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: and bring to mind, like whether or not they were

717
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: like important in your life or like they conjure something

718
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: up about like your connect to them in a way

719
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: that you can't really explain. And my friend Jared was

720
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: was like trying to figure out what his coven was,

721
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, don't take this any any which way,

722
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: but I think Share might be in your coven. And

723
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Speaker 1: he was like, oh, I don't know, and I'm like see,

724
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: but like Shared to me is like earthy, fiery as

725
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: an actress, so underrated, a fabulous well how underrated are

726
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 1: you with an oscar rather your girl? To be fair,

727
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: but I will say like as a diva, she is

728
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: incredibly talented and embodying other care and especially like you know,

729
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean not to I never snark out a woman's

730
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Speaker 1: physical appearance in the sense of like I chose to

731
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Speaker 1: get surgery and like, but she was very emotive, Like

732
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: she had her original face so stunningly beautiful, and she

733
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: was able to express so much with it. Yeah, she

734
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: she does have that. It's crazy for someone who's literally performing.

735
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: If I could turn back time to also feel grounded

736
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: real like that woman on the on the like the

737
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: next door amazing. She's really good. Have you seen share stuff? Yeah, movies,

738
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Speaker 1: movies moonstruck, but like I will go back and watch

739
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: Old Sunny and share clips. Clips are good. Yeah, you

740
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: know it's all fluff, but like I'm not all fluff,

741
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: but like, but just share just like landing a punchline

742
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: or just reacting to something to Stunny, just being like

743
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: whatever she's you can. Yeah, her quote, original face, which

744
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: I love, Like that's what you can with her tea

745
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: than or I mean her nose in her mouth and

746
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: just just her the color, the tone of her skin.

747
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: It's like she goddess. I couldn't agree more. Yeah, she

748
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: and like Burnett Peters from Oh my God, Complexion And

749
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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about the Pennies from Heaven. Have you

750
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: ever seen it? I've never seen it. It's good. I

751
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: only thought it recently, but like it's it's good. It's

752
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: dark and not to sound weird Martin and Burnette. Peter R. Yeah, wait,

753
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: what is it? Explain so I haven't seen it. A

754
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: musical from I believe nineteen eighty called Pennies from Heaven

755
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: Um take place in the depression. Who else isn't it?

756
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: Jessica Harper, who was also a fan of The Paradise Um.

757
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: It's it's it's dark, like, but there's some amazing musical numbers.

758
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: I just like any musical with like a sense of darkness,

759
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: which is why I'm not like as much of a

760
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: sound of music, Like I'm definitely more in the you

761
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: know later. But but yeah, it's it's pretty great. Yeah. Yeah,

762
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: there's this whole fantasy sequence where she goes into a classroom. Yeah,

763
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: and she's wearing Bob Mackie and it's right and this

764
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: huge and it's gorgeous, like all these children are wearing

765
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: like white tuxes and like, I'm sure that's online. Yeah, YouTube,

766
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: we'll tweet that, like you can find it along with

767
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: them The Born to Be Gay but cover Um, I'm

768
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: always like shocked when I go to YouTube. I like,

769
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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this exists and I'll type it in

770
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: like there's this concert version of Sweeney Todd that I

771
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: love with Patty, with Patty and George hern and that

772
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: neo Patrick Harris, that one I think is like good,

773
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: that's truly Sweeney Todd for me. And like everything else

774
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Speaker 1: I listened to, like like strike me down. But even

775
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: like the Angela version I find to be like a

776
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: little cartoonist is gone. It's just accepted because for me,

777
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Speaker 1: it always comes down to worst Pies in London, like like,

778
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Speaker 1: and I've never seen a worst pies in London like

779
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Speaker 1: Patty Lepone does in that concert is everything. Like her

780
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: singing is just so expressive and on point and operatic

781
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: and like you get every single word and the stories

782
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: being told. And she's also so funny. She's really funny. Yeah,

783
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: she's a ballbuster. Yeah. But I remember like I was like,

784
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: maybe they'll have this, and I typed it into YouTube

785
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: and you could see the whole the whole thing. Well. Recently,

786
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: like like people have been putting up like full Broadway

787
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: shows and specifically of Sondheim stuff like old like like

788
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 1: I like I had never seen Sunday in the Park

789
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: until someone put up the like many even taking Bernadette

790
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: production and I was like, this is I smoked ball

791
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: and I watched it and it was like, this is

792
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: the most beautiful thing I've ever seen it. I mean

793
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: that Sweeney Tod Concert version. That could be your whole night.

794
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: I mean you could just sit it down and it's

795
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: long and it's good, and that's that is something that

796
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: I would say, if you haven't seen it, you got

797
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: to see that, because that's a piece of art. I see.

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00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: My thing with Sweeney is I've beyond the the movie.

799
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Speaker 1: I've never seen a full production. That's a shame. So

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Speaker 1: that's why. I mean, I really like the Angel Landsbury version,

801
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: which it is it is filmed in the same way

802
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: that Sunday is. Right, you know, it was like someone

803
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: was like, we have to get this on. There's some

804
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: kinds that can be the most entertaining, but like for

805
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: people who will appreciate it, it it will be you know,

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00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: will be valued and looking we appreciate it. Wait, or

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00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: did you want to ask who we have there's Oh well,

808
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: I could say actually I had to ask the question

809
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: because it's like so finite. But I would say one

810
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: other thing, which is there's obviously there's Into the Woods

811
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Speaker 1: with Bernadette, which is you can watch in full some places.

812
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: And also, you guys, if you're in New York, you

813
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: can always go to Lincoln Center and you can go

814
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: just like go over this, but you can go to

815
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: Lincoln Center and watch the whole productions. Like I recently,

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00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: I think it was like six seven months ago did

817
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Speaker 1: this with Assassin's which one the one with Petrock Cares

818
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: and I Michael Servers as Newsome Award um so, but

819
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Speaker 1: but that's a really good production. And then it is

820
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Speaker 1: of course I'm on Victor Garberos John Wilkes spoof and

821
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: I actually we have a friend, um Nico who's like

822
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: really into politics and like really loves this stuff, and

823
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: he had never seen this and I told him like

824
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: last week, I was like, you should check this out.

825
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: And he has texted me every single day about it

826
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: and now he loves it. It's a good one to

827
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: get familiar with because it's super relevant. Yeah, that's also

828
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: a good like Gateway straight guy like show that in

829
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: like all every strike I've ever met, like Skyes and Dolls.

830
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: Really another straight guy show, strict eye show we have

831
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: we talked about and wait, this is another and if

832
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: this is truly putting it on the spot, then tell

833
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: me to shut up. But have I asked you what

834
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: your favorite show is? Oh, you know, it's it's I

835
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: mean it's Gypsy because Gypsy's Okay, let me put it

836
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: this way. Gypsy is the best musical of all time.

837
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: But Sunday is my favorite. Got it. That's great. It's

838
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: great that you can distinguish those. Um wow, I mean

839
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Speaker 1: you you have a whole history at Gypsy or no,

840
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: you saw with Patty you said that she was Patty

841
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Speaker 1: and no, actually I remember the first episode we did

842
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: with Cole. I said this, and some people were like,

843
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: what I felt that she marked the matin night that

844
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: I saw. Maybe she was tired, maybe she had maybe

845
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: she was hungover, and it's her right, you know what

846
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: it was like? It was like still Patty. But I

847
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, I really wanted to be like

848
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: blown away, like the way I was blown away by

849
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: Alice Ripley and next to normal, I was like blown

850
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: away by something and um anything. But I saw her

851
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: in Drowsy Chaperone in three Views when I was little,

852
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, unbelievable, right, I love that,

853
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: just the whole show off number. She's amazing yeah. I mean,

854
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: did you watch the Jimmy Awards this year. No, but

855
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: you told me about them, and you showed me that

856
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: clip from last year with the George Clooney girl, and

857
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: that was so fabulous. Girls, you should have her on

858
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: this show. Me after after we talked about it, and and

859
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: she was like, hey, thanks for all the nice things

860
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: you said, and I come on the show. Come on

861
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: the show the teens well, because not only that, but

862
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: like they have all the performances up. So I watched

863
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: that clip after you said it, and then I watched

864
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: her performance sister actor. It was amazing confidence. Oh my god. Yeah,

865
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: George Clooney, George Clooney, George Clooney three times and then

866
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: George do you care? I don't have? Performance was stunning.

867
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: But the reason I bring up the Jimmy's is like,

868
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: so they're obviously kids in there in high school, but

869
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: they do like those they break it up into small

870
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: groups of like the people that are really the ones

871
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: to watch. Two of the girls and one of the

872
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: finalist groups played the Drowsy shop around in Drowsy and

873
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: there's nothing funnier to me than watching seventeen year olds

874
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: play like boozed up old women. They both sang the

875
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: same song. They both sang along, and they split it

876
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: up like a duet, and then they did this incredible

877
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: thing at the end where they held the note out together.

878
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: It's good watching one was doing more heavy lifting than

879
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: the other, like one of them was the actor and

880
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: one of them was the singer. You know what I mean?

881
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: Singer who yeah, singers, but um no, I think like

882
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: the Patty thing, I was just like expecting, you want

883
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: to see her give herself a hernia? Yeah, I wanted

884
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: to see something happened up there, and it was great.

885
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: But also I had grown up watching on repeat the

886
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Bernadette Peters Tony Awards performance of Rose's Turn, and I

887
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: was just like blown away. But yeah, in my opinion,

888
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: she's never Rose. Bernardette Peters never could. I saw that production.

889
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: I was like, I love her to pieces, but she's not.

890
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: When they're like all we need is someone with nerve,

891
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: I was like, who, I don't see anyone in the

892
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: stage right now. I'm sorry, it's just not her, not

893
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: her stick. I get it, But Patty is the Rose

894
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, and I saw it with Die Daily.

895
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: I heard Angel Landsber was the best ever. Yeah, but yeah,

896
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean when you think Rose, you think of the

897
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: Patty energy. Patty was amazing. Yeah, I don't think of

898
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah when I hear it. When I went, someone says

899
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: Roses Turn the song, I don't think ath all, I

900
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: think Patty or I think that's just totally but I

901
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: my just music. In terms of the song track, I

902
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: also think of that a lot. I think from the

903
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: television movie. Yeah, I think that does a really good

904
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: Roses Turn, at least just the recording of it that's

905
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: like on Spotify or whatever, like great, really good. I

906
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: don't know, that's just me. I haven't seen anything really well.

907
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: The last thing I saw, and probably that really blew

908
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: me away was Once on This Island. Yeah, that was really, really,

909
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: really good. I saw that with Andrew Martin. We went together.

910
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: We had a mommy daughter date. Yes that For a second,

911
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: I was like, Andrew Martin was the Once on This Side.

912
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, you guys are like you

913
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: guys were coworkers. We went. Yeah, we went and at

914
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: one point she leaned over and was like, I have

915
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: no idea what's happening? Said, and I said, just enjoy it.

916
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, literally just at length talked about Andrew

917
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: Martin how brilliant she is a big fact, regretting that

918
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: the monologue about her twin was like it was like

919
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: an iconic comedic along from the last like twenty years

920
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: of filming. Yeah, she's amazing. Yeah, Oh my god, how

921
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: often do you get to this is such a I

922
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: was on a plane with her recently and we were texting.

923
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: While we were like stalled in the she was like,

924
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: I want bone broth and the place will be closed.

925
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: I was like, you should get food Kick or Max Liveries,

926
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: Like what's that? Like, it'll be at your apartment. She's like,

927
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: order it for me. I sent some bone broth to

928
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: her house and she came over and like toss thirty

929
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: dollars and flight attendants were very patient. I think I

930
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: think difficult people just really quickly. I think difficult people

931
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: was such and this is not meant to be taken

932
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: anything but the right way, which is it was gay

933
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: fan service. It was just candy for gay people, like

934
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: having Andrew Martin play your mom, and having like Jackie

935
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: Hoffman play like this fucking mouth the wife of Fred

936
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: Armis and and then having cold air and um, it's

937
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: just I got I of that show. Yeah, me too.

938
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: That's good. If I get God forbid hit by a

939
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: bus tomorrow, I have that as my legacy, and I'm

940
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: very proud. But I think I think you have. I

941
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: think cool stuff happening coming up. We'll see. We'll see

942
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: what happens. Since my once my rosation clears up, anything

943
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: is possible. I have to ask the question. We have

944
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: to ask the question, which is, Julie, what is the

945
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: culture that made you say culture is for me? This

946
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: is I'm talking about so much when you say cultures

947
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: for me, I mean like I want to make things,

948
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: I want to do things. Yeah, I mean, honestly, sometimes

949
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 1: I think about it that way. There's so many ways

950
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: to answer this question. Like sometimes I think, like for me,

951
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: if I were to askwer the answer the question, like

952
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: I could say, like Lost, the television show made me

953
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: want to like write television, you know what I mean.

954
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: But then like also I sometimes answer it like my

955
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: parents took me to Disney World a lot growing up,

956
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: and that stoke my imagination. So it's really kind of

957
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: like whatever you want. I mean obviously like that Cat's

958
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: experience is very formative for me, But I also love

959
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: the Monkeys, the TV show The v You when I

960
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: was a little girl. So I remember there was one

961
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: night where I had a nightmare and I was so

962
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: scared and so upset, and I went into my parents

963
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: bedroom and they were like, look, the Monkeys is on.

964
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: And I remember watching that because I would always rerun

965
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: it at eleven whatever they showed it for, and I've

966
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: seen it that day. But I just remember like being

967
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: specifically like introduced to the notion of familiarity and and

968
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: things that you love, being able to not just distract,

969
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: but like super Yeah, it was Davy Jones your crush.

970
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, last one. If I had to rank

971
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: Nesmith Doland's Torque Jones. Okay, I feel like Davy Jones

972
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: is the one my mom always talked to me. He

973
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: was pretty was like the designated heartthrob. But Mickey is

974
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: the voice of the Monkeys, like he's the best singer

975
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: and voice. Well, I at the time, when I was

976
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: a little girl, I liked Mickey, and then as I mature,

977
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: naturally Mike is the love. Yeah, it's interesting how that happens.

978
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,959
Speaker 1: So you think you're into as a child, Sure, there's

979
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: something about like a seventies aesthetic and sensibility like oh

980
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: that was sixties, that it was six seven, but that's

981
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: that's even before, right, Like I don't know, like just

982
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: just I'm hearing the song like hey, where the Monkeys,

983
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, oh, I'm already like automatically comforted.

984
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what my point is. There are some beautiful,

985
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: beautiful boys like yes, romping around in California with like

986
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: that was on film. I mean yeah, I was just

987
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: wonderful and the songs are so that's kind of would

988
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: you say, that's that's kind of like how to like

989
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: that's like American like that's like good quill right. I

990
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: don't know to me, very very that they also try

991
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: to recreate it, but it's like that's impossible. Yeah, you

992
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: gotta try to do something else because you can't recreate

993
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: I have like Carol King and Neil Diamond write songs

994
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: for you and boys and heart like I don't think so,

995
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: I don't think. Did you see the beautiful Carol King musical?

996
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: I did. I liked it. I liked it. I saw

997
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: it with the with Jesse and she was unbelieved. So

998
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: I saw it with her sister Abby. She's a sister

999
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: that does the same thing she does. I was, but

1000
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: Abby Abbey Mueller like is also a incredible I mean,

1001
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: I don't mean this disrespectfully, but it was like watching Jesse,

1002
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was like the strange

1003
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: gig to step into your sister's because it's like you're

1004
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: imitating someone who was imitating someone, right, Yes, it's it's

1005
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: it was a weird one, but it was like I was,

1006
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: it was kind of funny, but because the performance was great,

1007
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: but I was also cognisant the whole time of like

1008
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: I know, when you step into the role of someone

1009
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: originaling it, you're not supposed to do them, but you're

1010
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: supposed to honor what they did. And also with your sister,

1011
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: so you look like her, so it's kind of like

1012
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: seeing the same performance. Ish. Yeah, I'm so glad I

1013
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: don't have a sister. I'm happy I don't have a

1014
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: brother only child. We've talked about birthday, right, yes, yes,

1015
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: what is your I I think this is something that

1016
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: is like crystallizing in my brain that if it weren't

1017
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: for my sister handing me, handing down to me, these

1018
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: like what like you would imagine a heterosexual girl to

1019
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: enjoy Um, I would not have been able to consume

1020
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: like we were talking about dropping gorgeous with Katie Ash,

1021
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: I would not have like I would not have seen

1022
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: dropic gorgeous if it weren't for my sister. I would

1023
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: not have had access to like a Spice Girls CD

1024
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: to play on repeat if it weren't for my sister. Like,

1025
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: this is something that I'm really like kind of landing on.

1026
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: Is this reality of this is this idea of like, oh,

1027
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: I needed her to be there in order for me

1028
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: to like have laid the little They men appreciate women

1029
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: in ways that no one else does. I mean, yeah,

1030
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: like I that's it is a it is a bigger

1031
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: blessing than most people even no let alone take advantage of.

1032
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it is so special and beyond the idea

1033
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: that like they're just the only people that understand how

1034
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: funny women are can be. And it was funny because

1035
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: I you were talking about I forget what you're talking

1036
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: about earlier, but I remember after the Democratic debate you

1037
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: showed me that, Yeah, I introduced say, oh my god,

1038
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god. I like I just

1039
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: started walking around the room and it was amazing. But

1040
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: it was funny because my heterosexual boyfriend told me the

1041
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: night he was watching the debates, He's like, there's this

1042
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: woman I think you will think is funny. Yeah, he

1043
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to say. He couldn't peg it.

1044
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if he said funny. I

1045
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: think like I think he was like that you'll be

1046
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: interested it. He was able to mark like, I think

1047
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: this is like a crazy woman that like Julie might

1048
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: think is hilarious, which of course I do, and it

1049
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: tickled me to know. I mean, there's nothing like that

1050
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: sweet spot of a maniac, a well meaning maniac, like

1051
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: like just taking on more than she has any right

1052
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: to her swagger and out I should have to work there.

1053
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: And it was like you, I was like, you know,

1054
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: got it is so funny, I said. We were describing

1055
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: it like when it happened, as like an adult Dezie moment,

1056
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: and I feel like there's only so many people on

1057
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: this planet that can appreciate the adult Decie moment as

1058
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: being what it was, which is the finest moment anyone

1059
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: could ever experience. It was the moment of my life.

1060
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: I know it really it really never felt like that.

1061
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: It's it's our defining it's basically Kennedy being shot in

1062
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 1: the head. But good, it's it's it's the other side

1063
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: of that. I remember when that happens, because you talk

1064
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: about the moment you not only do you Matt talk about,

1065
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: but you talk about the moment when John he bows

1066
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: his hat and then the curtains part, and then you

1067
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: just it's close upon Adina just being like like starrified,

1068
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: like after Travolta after Yes. The funny thing about it

1069
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: is when he was talking, I literally said, I was like,

1070
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: how funny is it that they are getting John Travolta

1071
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: to announced this like gay anthem. And by the way,

1072
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: if you recall, he was wearing a literal chain connecting

1073
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: one part of his collar to the means what he

1074
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 1: was wearing instead of a bow tie. He looked absolutely insane.

1075
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: And then as he was talking, I was saying to

1076
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: myself in my own head, I was watching a bunch

1077
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: of people and I was like, he might not know

1078
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: her name. I was like, he like, I know, he's

1079
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: it's like the wickedly talented when the way and only

1080
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: adele the impression you're read, he's very staccato, chomping the

1081
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: contents talented and only so when you think about the

1082
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: precision with what she says, those words being used to

1083
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: say the wrong thing, it's heaven. I'm the confidence with

1084
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: what you delivered. It unbelievable. He's interesting, that Zeno god

1085
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: to be seen. Yeah, maybe it's maybe it's it's definitely

1086
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: he's not born but not born with much. He made

1087
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: the most of what he was born with. That well,

1088
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, true good looks fascinating, his fascinating career, truly,

1089
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: because I always feel like Greece must have been the

1090
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: first thing, not even welcome back. Yeah about Travolta, No,

1091
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: it's about Allen car the produced reproduced Greece as well,

1092
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: and that insane Academy Awards thing and can't stop the music,

1093
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: the Village People musical and yeah, so you so, I

1094
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 1: had this moment with Travolta during American Crime during a

1095
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: where I'm actually crazy, so funny. I really enjoyed him. Yeah,

1096
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: I mean he was. That's the kind of thing where

1097
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: it's like actor meats performance and it's like it's so

1098
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: surreal that it's just whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. But

1099
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: that whole the Ryan Murphy casting of it all bananas

1100
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: because Cuba getting Junior and O. J. Simpson that's like

1101
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: a weird matchup. But it did work. I think it

1102
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: for the most part of Dead that was like a

1103
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: very artfully executed Ryan Murphy granule. I prefer feud, yes, okay,

1104
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: and what's happening? I mean, when what is Diana? And um,

1105
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: what's this? Do you know? This is Prince Charles versus

1106
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: Diana coming up? Nothing? It was literally like they said,

1107
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 1: the next feud is Charles and Diana. They also said

1108
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: the next American crimes for it was Katrina and that

1109
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: didn't happen either, And I heard that they like it,

1110
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: and like then they then they shelved it the because

1111
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: because Nette bending was fully the lead of it, and

1112
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: then it didn't come out. But this this Charles and

1113
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: Diana thing seems like such a good opportunity, especially right

1114
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: now when everyone is obsessed with like the royal family

1115
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: of it all, Like and who played Diana? Well, they wouldn't,

1116
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: But when I was almost I was almost positive it

1117
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: was Gwyneth because of the Glee thing, because because she's

1118
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: had right, she's with Ryan Murphy, she's a movie star.

1119
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: Who would who would I think only do so much.

1120
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: Television would be better, Daryl Hannah, Daryl just talked about

1121
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: She's another one is fascinating. Yeah, totally, we were, and

1122
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: you had brought up the Carol Radswall. She has an

1123
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: athletic blankness about yes, we were? What what? What? What

1124
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: puts that in your mind of like Darryl and Diana,

1125
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: It's that kind of like a similar physicality, like the

1126
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: strong job, but yeah, like athletics. Yeah, but where you

1127
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: saying about Carol? Well, so Matt basically recapped this um

1128
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: a couple episodes ago. But but apparently so Carol was

1129
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: talking about JFK JR. So Carol Radsville was close with Carolin,

1130
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: and we know this, and so she was close with JFK.

1131
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: But she was saying that she was saying in some

1132
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: interview with Jenny McCarthy recently, but America's the Michael every

1133
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: d she gets the Mike Wallace a dessert, truly, truly,

1134
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,959
Speaker 1: and like watching those interviews sometimes I'm like I'm here,

1135
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: R and I on this YouTube channel. UM, but it's

1136
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: like I was watching this interview with Carol and Jenny,

1137
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: and Carol kind of threw this thing away where she

1138
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: was like well, yeah, you know, before Caroline, there was

1139
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: um Darryl Hannah, and so we had to endure that.

1140
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, what was that? I was like,

1141
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: does she not like Daryl Hannah? I was like, is

1142
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: Darrell Hannah a nightmare? Was a different in the nineties?

1143
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: And then I asked Bowen, I was like, is Darryl

1144
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: Hannah like Cannon? And I think she might. She's actually

1145
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: say it was mean and Darryl Hannah was involved with

1146
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: everybody John Jim Henson. She was at his funeral. Arguably

1147
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: she killed him, just kidding, but she was seeing him

1148
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: when he really Now she's married to who was she

1149
01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: married to? I don't know who young? Okay, that is shocking.

1150
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: That's like that's like when you remember that Meg Ryan

1151
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: is married to Mellencamp. It's like, what did they actually

1152
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: tie the knot? I think that they're still together. They

1153
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: started dating, but they only started dating of a leather

1154
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: necklace years right, But but but we're just not like

1155
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: just a long time but not long enough to be

1156
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: like it's they started dating after Meg like kind of

1157
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: fell off. Well yeah, I mean what I what I

1158
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: mean to say, It's like it's like two iconic people

1159
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: that you sure it's a great makes sense to me. Um,

1160
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that the conclusion we sort of

1161
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: came to with the whole wise Carol being shade towards Darryll,

1162
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: is that Carol versus Darryl Carol they I was going

1163
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: to say that, like at the because Darryll Hannah was

1164
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: dating JFK Jr. At the height of her fame in

1165
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: the nineties, I guess from the late eighties where it

1166
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: was like she's probably doing a lot of coke and

1167
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: being wild, I mean crazy. I think that might be it.

1168
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: I think maybe that was a little bit. I mean also,

1169
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: the I guess the early nineties were like a big

1170
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: old coke toime. Sure, sure, sure, so that's our theory.

1171
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: But who knows? Um, yes, but I people we have

1172
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: friends who like who will shoot on feuds and say

1173
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: that the writing is terrible. But I think I think

1174
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: it is the best writing of any of those. Do

1175
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: you think, Yeah? I h you know what. I loved

1176
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: that scene where they showed Joan Crawford's in Memoriam picture

1177
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: and they're all watching and then Susan as Betty says,

1178
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: that's all any of us look at and then they

1179
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: say to Joan and they cheers her. It's kind of

1180
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 1: like that thing with gay men. It's like you can

1181
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: really pick at each other. But those women were bonded

1182
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: by the experience of being a woman in Hollywood. Yeah,

1183
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: that that's that, And that had some really great performance

1184
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: supporting performance performances to like Jackie Yeah, and Alison Wright

1185
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: who who was also played a fictional character. But she's

1186
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: really right. Um. I think the coolest thing that that

1187
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: show dead was it we invented that famous Betty quote

1188
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: of Um, they say never speaking of the dead. Joe

1189
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: Crawford is dead. They never say anything bad about the dead.

1190
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: Only good is dead good. But the way that Susan

1191
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: reads that Reddit was like mournful and like bereft and

1192
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: like she like can't believe that this woman that this

1193
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: like woman who's been in the trenches with her is

1194
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: like really smart reading on that Stan Susan very very

1195
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: good and even though she like her politics are crazy.

1196
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: But um, anyway, we won't get into it. Just smiles

1197
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: some Julie Klausen. Um. But yes, I mean feud. I

1198
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: want to see Charles in Diana. I want to see

1199
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: their take on that. I'll even I love Gwyneth. There

1200
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: you go, I do. You're not a gwyn Stan. She's

1201
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: a little precious. She's a little precious. Is there is

1202
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: there a piece of culture? Um that because because you

1203
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: we're wondering if we were asking about things that made

1204
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: you want to create things. Is there something that comes

1205
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: to mind when it's that well, I mean I love

1206
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: the Kids in the Hall growing up, and I loved

1207
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: wy Allen movies and I would want to sort of

1208
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 1: like make my own version of that. Like I liked

1209
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: how he could write for himself, right, the sort of

1210
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: close out of biographical things. Um. And then later I

1211
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: discovered Albert Brooks, who's like so much better, not better,

1212
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: but he's the best, deeper. I'm just funnier and you know,

1213
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 1: quirky and at a certain point, I mean they both

1214
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: you have to fall up, you have to grow up

1215
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: and get bad at what you do. I guess, but

1216
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, I guess. But I also like, yeah, I

1217
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: love sketch comedy and yeah, we had we had Scott

1218
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: Thompson here. We had such a conversation with him. Yeah,

1219
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: he's amazing talking about like, you know, being a gay

1220
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: man in the industry and like not getting your due,

1221
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: like we had such a great conversation. Oh yeah, sorry

1222
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: I interrupted you. No, no, no no, I was just saying

1223
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: like how difficult it can be too. How to say this,

1224
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: like like be the best at what you do and

1225
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: then watch the moment where they'll allow it happen like

1226
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty years later. It's just so like you

1227
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like your time before, your time

1228
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: being an out gay comedian in the nineties couldn't have

1229
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: been easy, Like people don't think about casting you for

1230
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: anything because you know, out gay comedian. Right. What he

1231
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 1: talked about was um watching like sort of Hollywood start

1232
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: to put gay characters on screen and like not even

1233
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: getting those like opportunities because like you know, Greg Kennear

1234
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: would be cast like Sean Hayes at the time would

1235
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: be cast in Will and Grace without being out, and

1236
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: those kinds of situations where it's just like like the

1237
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: the blessing and the curse of like being authentically yourself

1238
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: and that being like where your gift is, but then

1239
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: also not being able to benefit from that and being

1240
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: invisible in plains exactly because only because society hasn't caught

1241
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: up to that to where you're at it's tragic. There

1242
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: are strides being made. I mean it isn't linear, but

1243
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: like there's definitely totally and like it would be so

1244
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: triumphant if like you saw like this sounds so whatever,

1245
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: but like after that episode and like you know this

1246
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: can get back to him or whatever. But like after

1247
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: that episode like truly like and this sounds so vain

1248
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, but I was like, oh, a fun career

1249
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: goal of mine now is to like make something that

1250
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: for Scott Thompson. You know, it's like you want to

1251
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: see him like be like you want to see that,

1252
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: like yeah, triumph for him. I mean it's also like

1253
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: that's a butter up our guest or like like them

1254
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: at your feet. But it's like the thing is like

1255
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:52,439
Speaker 1: two is like in an industry that won't allow like

1256
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: like a gay mail star. Like that's why we have

1257
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: these like for example, Difficult People is like such an

1258
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: incredible with you and and Billy, And it's just like

1259
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, like are they would they have green

1260
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: even like five years ago, even for three years ago

1261
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: even now? What are we ever going to see just

1262
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: like straight up a comedy with a gay mail lead?

1263
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, like and that's there's like so

1264
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: much like I think that's that's why it's important to

1265
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: have ally ship, because like we truly all do make

1266
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: each other better and like you know, who knows, And

1267
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: like I would say, I would say that like the

1268
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: fact that Billy is getting this like Jettapitau rom com

1269
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: like in the works, it's like it couldn't have happened

1270
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: with like without like all these different things that like yeah,

1271
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: buttressed him up, like you know, and like it's so deserved.

1272
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: But like you're you're you're such a part of that.

1273
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: It's so so amazing. Um, I'm very proud of, you know,

1274
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: what I created, and I'm very proud of writing the

1275
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: stuff that I did. And you know, it was very

1276
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: important for me for a gay man to be visible

1277
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: and not defined bisexuality and but to be also to

1278
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: be sexual and um, yeah, it's true ally ship. To

1279
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 1: see that friendship in like an authentic way was a

1280
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: big goal. Yeah that Taylor, take note also, And I've

1281
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: thanked you to your face about just the fucking just

1282
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: like Kevin's spacey ship constantly you guys ship before it

1283
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: was like popular or like the story broke out or

1284
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: anything like you guys would like know. I made sure

1285
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: there was a Kevin Spacey joke in every script, and

1286
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: sometimes I didn't get cut, but there was always one. Yeah. Honestly,

1287
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: you know what's fucked up is how long we were

1288
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: making those jokes before everyone was like, what anybody cared

1289
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: because they didn't know. Everybody everybody knew, but nobody cared. Yeah,

1290
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: that's the thing. And that's the classic thing too, was like,

1291
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: well we didn't know it. Come on, come on, like

1292
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: I've I've done what three? I don't think so Honey's

1293
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: on Robin right like yes, um but anyway, so speaking

1294
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: of I don't think so Honey, time to do. I

1295
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: believe it's which is our one minute segment when we

1296
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: take something in culture that we just like, maybe even hate. Yeah,

1297
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: define language for yourself. Um, but and we go around

1298
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: one minute rant about that thing. Um, so I do

1299
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: I do have something? Okay, this is Matt Rodger. Okay,

1300
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many time

1301
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so Honey, SMR talked about

1302
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: in detail on the pod before, and I don't know.

1303
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: I'm very sensitive. The smallest thing can sender shivered up

1304
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: my spine. Again. It's like one of those things. I

1305
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: guess that is the point, but it's like I would

1306
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: like to go sit with someone in real life whisper.

1307
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't just want a SMR because I also think

1308
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: it's becoming part of the culture now and the way

1309
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: we can't turn back from. We have Cardi B doing

1310
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: SMR on YouTube. She is a very good at it,

1311
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: and honestly, I don't think, so, honey, that I needed

1312
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: to know that was one of Cardi b skills because

1313
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: now it's like I know she's a rapper, I know

1314
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: she's really good at SMR. I know she's going to

1315
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: be an actress and hustlestlers speaking of trailers that I like. Um,

1316
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey, a SMR has to do

1317
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: with my sensitivity. Really, honestly, you do you want taking it?

1318
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: I just personally won't be doing it. Um. Also, I

1319
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: don't think I would be good at it. So that's

1320
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: I guess one of the reasons. Five seconds, I find

1321
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: that I'm very loud and can't speak in a whisper.

1322
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: So I don't think so a SMR. But do you

1323
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: and what's for you? And that's a minute a couple

1324
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: of things. Am I going to get dragged for this? No? No, no,

1325
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: no it's not. It's I heard it's like Cilantro, Like

1326
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: there's a part of your brand that either response it

1327
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: or does it the way that like there's people have

1328
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: a gene that like Cilantro tastes like soap to them,

1329
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: um and then different triggers, lets of different responses, um

1330
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: Meridian responses. But I do want to say fuck you

1331
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 1: for implying that people who listen to a smar lonely

1332
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: because okay, that's here, that's so funny. He who claims me,

1333
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: my friend is going to engineer it orse engineer look

1334
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: like said I'm not gonna do am I'm gonna go

1335
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: meets like you said something to that bit. I can't

1336
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 1: quote quote quote it back to your account. But also

1337
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: the Cardi is like a savant, like she she knows,

1338
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: she's like I read I read up on articles about

1339
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: her doing that video, and like all these experts are like,

1340
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: she clearly has done this. She's done this. She she

1341
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: says in the video she watches Asmer every night to

1342
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: go to go to sleep, and she like knows, she

1343
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: knows that it's about hand movements and she knows see

1344
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: the intent and like the fire in her eyes when

1345
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: she's doing it's a performance. That cannon like taps the

1346
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: can and I'm like you are, it's performing. It's a performance.

1347
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I fully realized performance. And actually a

1348
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: SMR is like a new name tag for it, because

1349
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: back in the day, like even like eight years ago,

1350
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: was called the whisper community, and like that was like

1351
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: a shame thing. That what a great name, what a

1352
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: fabulous like screenplay for anyone or something. Yeah, whisper community. Okay,

1353
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: I've got one. Well, it looks like it's gonna be

1354
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 1: a owhen Yanks turned to do I don't think so, Honey,

1355
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: here today on this episode of Last Cultures and his

1356
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: time will begin now. I don't think so many Matrioka dolls,

1357
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: Russian dolls that nest and nest. What's what's the end

1358
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: game there that I get to a small doll. What

1359
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do with a small doll? Oh? Not lose it.

1360
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: It's a stressful, stressful thing to have. It's not fun.

1361
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: The only fun thing is to organize the dolls and

1362
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: nest them in one another. I don't think so honey,

1363
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: that's not play, that's stress over you know, spatial um uh, compacting,

1364
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think one of the

1365
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: We're We're We're America is having a weird moment with

1366
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: Russia right now. But the worst Russian cultural export in

1367
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: history has been the Russian nesting doll. Because now now

1368
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: you see these crazy silhouettes on you know, fucking these

1369
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: phillies right behind my my my co host Matt Rogers, Um,

1370
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: what's this? And I don't think so, honey, that I

1371
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: only thought of it because it was I looked at

1372
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: something in the room a second. I don't think something that. Yes,

1373
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: but I actually do hate Russian nesting dolls. And that's

1374
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: one minute. I always love when you use your last

1375
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: five seconds to be like, is this bad? And did

1376
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: I only think of a two seconds ago? Yes? I

1377
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: love that for you. I love that narrative. I love

1378
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: this as like because its supposed to be pop culture

1379
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: that you're gonna talk about the show because it got

1380
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: nominated form that was so funny that like Russian so funny.

1381
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: Way yeah, we headlined um okay, um, this is Julie Klauseners.

1382
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: I don't think okay, so no, no, no, no no, what

1383
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: was your question? What was your question? Sorry? Sorry? Sorry

1384
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: sorry set off Asian. No, that's that's fine. Don't worry

1385
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: about it. Make it. Make it about whatever it's going

1386
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: to be. It's a pop culture thing, right, it's supposed

1387
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: to be. Okay, Wait, just so people know in case

1388
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: they want to skip forward, this will contain spoilers, and

1389
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: we love that. We love a spoiler, So spoiler alert

1390
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: a minute ahead. If you care about the Handmaid's Tail, Okay,

1391
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: I love this. I wonder I wonder if our listeners

1392
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,759
Speaker 1: care about the hemlets, and I think some of them do. Okay,

1393
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: this is Julie Clausens. I don't think so. One of

1394
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 1: your time starts now. Okay. So I watch every episode

1395
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: of the like midnight when it comes out, and I

1396
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,879
Speaker 1: hate it so much, and I love the first season

1397
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: even though this is like a horrible It's it's like

1398
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: chickens watching like chicken torture video, you know, it's like,

1399
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: I'm a woman, what am I doing? And they just

1400
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: keep being meaner and meter to women, and they're like,

1401
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: let's hang them by the river ano they're doing like

1402
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: body torture, like where they're just like what we put

1403
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: rings in her lips when you're like, what the what

1404
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: do they do with the teeth? And how going to

1405
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 1: and anyway, I just want to say that I gave

1406
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: up on that show as soon as Serena gave that

1407
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: fucking baby away, because that is something she would never do,

1408
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: and she did that, and I said, no way. Because

1409
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: now this season she's like, I got to get the

1410
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: baby back, and the writers are clearly like I don't

1411
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: know anyone writes on it, you know, but like they

1412
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: are clear like she's got to get that baby back. Yeah,

1413
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: because yeah, seconds, I don't think so, honey. Elizabeth Moms

1414
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: is very good, a lot of facial acting, and the

1415
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: music choices are very on the nose. It's really true.

1416
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: And also I kind of tuned out at the same time,

1417
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 1: it sounds like you did, because because it's like to

1418
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: see the show now and I'm like, Okay, Serena is now,

1419
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: and what's going on? Because no effing cut off you

1420
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: cut off her finger. You have to cut that bitches

1421
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: head off in order for her to not want that baby.

1422
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 1: That is the only thing she wants. And now it's like, yes,

1423
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 1: she still does, Like no, I give up with you.

1424
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: And now it's just torture. And there was this one

1425
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 1: scene in front of the like would be Lincoln Monument, yes,

1426
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: and they're just shouting at each other, I hate you,

1427
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 1: I hate you, and it's like, okay, this is like

1428
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: episode too many into American horror story. Or you just

1429
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: have Angela Bassett and Cavvy Baits being like I hate you,

1430
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: I hate you more and you're like one of you

1431
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: kill the other because I'm bored. And I said that

1432
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: heightening and that I'm know I'm taking my I don't think,

1433
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 1: but it just it drives me cucko bananas and I'm

1434
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: waiting for them to use like the song like I

1435
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: don't know, like sisters are doing it for themselves. Yeah.

1436
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: The music is just unbelievable and you have a budget

1437
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: any Yeah. And the thing is that show is like

1438
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 1: very proud of itself in a way where I'm like,

1439
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: but the thing is, you do have to keep serving

1440
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: this quality. And the thing about it is too it's

1441
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: just like it is incredibly hard to watch, has always

1442
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: been hard to watch, but we watch it because like

1443
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like we do want

1444
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: to see some guitarsists and it seems like it gets

1445
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: worse and worse and worse and worse seems they give

1446
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: them the more you're to drag out the torture. You

1447
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: see that interview where the guy was like, I see

1448
01:16:54,439 --> 01:17:01,520
Speaker 1: it potentially having ten season, I was like, what out here? No, um,

1449
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: that is unacceptable. I will ever say. I love I've

1450
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: been waiting for aunt Lydia flashback episode for this entire time.

1451
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,440
Speaker 1: We got that dressing her on a date, doing karaoke

1452
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 1: and then making out with a guy on her reaching

1453
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: right for the peen was wonderful and yeah, this is

1454
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: and in the flashback to I said, I'm just gonna

1455
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: stop watching after this because it's not gonna get that.

1456
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: But the thing is, like, that's what the thing is

1457
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: like when when you are someone who loves like to

1458
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: see like we've been talking about like these largely female cast,

1459
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: amazing actresses, like and the thing is like you can

1460
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: kind of swept away and like how well it's being

1461
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: sure that show is spinning its fucking wheels. I just

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01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: I just love that you hate watching Julie and despite

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01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: being horror curious and refusing to watch other horror, because

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01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 1: I consider it so I would call it horror yeah,

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01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: it definitely is. Yeah, yeah, and I do like the like,

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01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, like the reveal that girl with the fucking

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01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: ship in her mouth, that was a horror sting and yeah,

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01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 1: it's there. It is. It's it's thing, and it's just

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01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: it's no, it's too much. It's not cute. No, it's

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01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: not cute, and my shows need to be cute. Yeah,

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01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: it's I like about Dead to me. It remains cute.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Dead to me right now. Have you seen it? Oh? Yeah,

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01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: so fucking good? Um is it because I watched I

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01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: watched the season in a day. I like it. Yeah,

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01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's good. It's like, oh,

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01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: I finished this entire bag, Like you can watch it

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01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: again and be like, oh maybe, honest day, I wouldn't finished.

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01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: I won't because it was a day well spent. But

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01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like, I'm not going on the record

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01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, but you know what, it very

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01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 1: well could be. I'm not saying that it isn't any

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01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: right now. What my thing is with it is it's

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01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: just like I've been spacing it out three episodes, three episodes,

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01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: three episodes, so I can say someone who went a

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01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: little bit differently. I am enjoying it and I'm also

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01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: like unable to not love anything that Christina applegator Linda

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01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: Linda Cardolini, dude, they are well, no, it was my heat.

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01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: It was like my Sunday. Yeah. Yeah, that is dreamcasting

1489
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: for you. That macause christ are those are two of

1490
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: my girls, like Christie Christina since married with children. She

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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: was so hot on that she was poor just and

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01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: also like y, yeah, that's that's actually rule of culture.

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01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: Number nine. Kelly Bundy is Kelly Bundy was like the

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01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: Margaret of her time, Like yeah, anyway, yeah, yeah, I

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01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: mean that's and that's someone who's like, you know, Christina

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01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: Appligate is such a star that it's like she was

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01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: you knew from watching her in that moment you were

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01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,879
Speaker 1: like that she's here, She's so good. I love sluts, Yeah, same,

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01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: I love a good stupid sluts because her flipping through

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01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: the phone book and saying, what's the number for nine

1501
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: one one is so fucking yeah. More more sluts And

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01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: that's and that's why I need to be cast more

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01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: more slots. And I think the title of that more

1504
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: Slats with Julie Casmore. This has been this has been fabulous.

1505
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here and thank you guys

1506
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: so much for having me on and thank you for

1507
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: being here as well. A time, great time talking. So listen, bo,

1508
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 1: we do end every episode with a song. I agree.

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01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: Can I just propose another title? Yes, Julie Bowen and

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01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: Mr Rogers, Yes, Julie bo and Mr Rodgers. White people

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01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 1: search and they'll be yes. I love that. So Julie Bowen,

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01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: Commas and Mr Rodgers. Yeah, there we go, There you go,

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01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: wow or just perfect. In real life it's Julie Bowen

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01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: and Mr Carlson. Unfortunately, Oh no, there's a little drag

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01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 1: on her. Julie Bowen and Mr Carlson. Yes, yes, yes,

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01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: they allegedly. He tells me that Julie Bowen and Tucker

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01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: Carlson were at least a thing for a little we're

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01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: hooking up um, and then Julie was. Julie left her husband.

1519
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: They had promised to leave each other's h each other's

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01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: spouses for each other. Tucker Carlson chickened out Julie. Julia

1521
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 1: Julie Bowen did not wow. So now Julie has has

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01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: left the fool and I'm going to give a legal

1523
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: note and say this all happened allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. I'm

1524
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: going to be the sunny hosting of this episode and

1525
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: say this allegedly happened. Is the lawyer on the view

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01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 1: who always gives the legal and you're the lawyer on

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01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: the last culture, So I'm of course the lawyer of

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01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: this show. Um, who knows? I mean Julie. But if

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01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: Julie Bone wants to start being with me, I would

1530
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: love that. I would actually love that best thing for

1531
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: my career any great, And then I'll start a beef

1532
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: with I don't kneel, I don't nil. There you go.

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01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: I could never do that. Not with Mary and Sophia.

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01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: You should start start start a few Sophia that that

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01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: kind of reads. Um, okay, let's do what you pick.

1536
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: He's a little obsessed with me, saying obsessed with me.

1537
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: He's a little obsessed with me in the morning and night.

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01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: He's a little obsessed with me. When I say, all right,

1539
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: he's a little obsessed with me. He's a little obsessed

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01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: with me. You can find that song nowhere. I Forever.

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01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by

1542
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:13,920
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1543
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:18,040
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1544
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