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Speaker 3: From Futuro Media and pr X, it's Latino usay, I'm

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Speaker 3: Maria no posa today. Puerto Rican singer songwriter Ile on

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Speaker 3: the evolution of her music.

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Speaker 1: As a form of protest.

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Speaker 3: For Puerto Rican singer songwriter Ileana Cabra, better known by

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Speaker 2: I was a little one in the house where I

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Speaker 3: Ille remembers listening to salsa and boleros with her family,

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Speaker 2: My dad always likes to try to find the background

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Speaker 2: there's a song from Ruin Bladles that is called Tiburon,

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Speaker 2: and he wrote it in Puerto Rico, and it is

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Speaker 3: In Tiburon, Ruben Blades sings about a ruthless shark, symbolizing

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Speaker 3: songs like this cemented the relationship between the musical and

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Speaker 2: Even though you enjoy it and you danced to it,

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Speaker 3: When Ile was a teenager, she began to sing with

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Speaker 3: her older brothers, Rene Perez and Eduardo Cavra, also known

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Speaker 3: the stage name PG thirteen. Ile performed with Gaietrese through

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Speaker 4: La gobardiadu Falre.

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Speaker 3: Ile often sings about power baya. Her second album, al Madura,

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Speaker 3: from a vast range of Caribbean musicality to talk about

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Speaker 1: We Are Now es Elimpia Romano.

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Speaker 3: Composed in the throes of the pandemic. Eli's latest album,

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Speaker 6: Then Glcorazon Expusto.

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Speaker 3: The album brings together the personal and the political, getting

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Speaker 3: introspective about how she moves through patriarchy and colonialism without

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Speaker 3: losing hope. Today, Ele takes a look back at her

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Speaker 6: Her Musicpza tontu slabossboam concert Simero de Macia.

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Speaker 1: My name is Ele. I am from Puerto Rico and

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Speaker 1: I am a singer.

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Speaker 2: Where I grew up, there was a lot of music

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Speaker 1: And I remember having that transitional moment in my life

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Speaker 2: So I was thinking a lot in myself, you know,

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Speaker 1: We've been through so much.

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Speaker 1: It's a very important phrase for me because.

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Speaker 2: Nowadays we are really really feeling that we in Puerto

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Speaker 4: The dugi YadA yea, the yucky, the duggy yea, yeah, yucky.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty, the year that we all thought was going

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Speaker 1: I think that this album focused on me a little, you.

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Speaker 1: Yoda contra. You know sometimes when you feel so so

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Speaker 2: And I feel that I was like in this album,

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Speaker 1: It's part of life, you know.

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Speaker 2: The song that for me maybe represents the whole album

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Speaker 5: Know, than.

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Speaker 6: Cost them and yet them I look at the road.

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Speaker 2: I never expected to have so many collaborations in this album.

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Speaker 1: Working with ev was incredible.

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Speaker 1: I still can't believe that she's in this album. For me,

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Speaker 5: Don't any.

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Speaker 2: Natarilla comes from a Puerto Rican phrase that we use

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Speaker 1: And it was like my way of transcending a little.

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Speaker 2: The process of making this album that was in another

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Speaker 1: We have to start from somewhere.

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Speaker 2: That's how everything develops, And for me, I'm I think

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