Speaker 1: Sabena, did you go to camp?
Speaker 2: I've only gone to dance camp, so yeah, but it
Speaker 2: was only like four days.
Speaker 1: You went to a four day dance camp, so.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, my girls still do it.
Speaker 1: You never went to a summer camp.
Speaker 2: I recorded from it, remember I recorded one of them
Speaker 2: from it. When I was in Palm Springs, I was
Speaker 2: at a dance camp with my dancers.
Speaker 1: Is that when you had there you were recording with
Speaker 1: the margarita?
Speaker 2: No? That was no, that was a vacation. I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't have a margarita when I'm watching
Speaker 2: high school kids? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: I would need plenty of margaritas if I had to
Speaker 3: watch high school kids.
Speaker 1: Trust me, it's true.
Speaker 2: They that would make sense. But no, I cannot do that.
Speaker 1: But you never went to like a camp or like
Speaker 1: like a summer camp.
Speaker 2: Really, isn't that awful?
Speaker 1: Camp was okay? Was it off? Like?
Speaker 2: It's so far from me to even think that it's real.
Speaker 2: Like you stayed in a cabin.
Speaker 1: It depends what camp.
Speaker 3: I went to most camp, so yeah, the first when
Speaker 3: I went to boy Scout camp, for instance, I stayed
Speaker 3: in a cabin and I hated it.
Speaker 1: I realized I didn't need to be a boy scout.
Speaker 3: By day like four, I faked a stomach ailment and
Speaker 3: had my parents come and pick me up. Was awful, No, okay,
Speaker 3: But the first camp I went to Camp Woodstock.
Speaker 2: It was cool.
Speaker 3: I went with a friend of mine third grade. We
Speaker 3: shared a cabin with a couple other guard grade third grade.
Speaker 3: It was a sleepover for I did a week the
Speaker 3: first time, and I had one of my first ever
Speaker 3: oh this didn't go well moments where they had a
Speaker 3: toga party. Oh, and my friend and I are the
Speaker 3: only ones that went in togas no one else came
Speaker 3: in toga. And to make it even worse, I only
Speaker 3: had a fitted sheet. Oh so I didn't even have
Speaker 3: a regular sheet to make a toga how to fitted sheet.
Speaker 3: And so everyone made fun of me when I got there,
Speaker 3: and it was awful. But what they didn't know is
Speaker 3: that so the counselor was like, why don't you two
Speaker 3: His name was Paul. My friend I went with, why
Speaker 3: don't you guys go back and you get dressed. But
Speaker 3: I had a secret weapon in my cabin, which is
Speaker 3: I had taken my brother's Nike jacket and I had
Speaker 3: my own parachute pants because I loved breakdancing me and
Speaker 3: so I walked back into the toga party and I
Speaker 3: ripped that.
Speaker 1: Oh it was amazing.
Speaker 3: All the girls that wouldn't go to the dance me
Speaker 3: before now wanted to talk to me, and it was
Speaker 3: the great.
Speaker 1: So that was Camp Woodstock.
Speaker 3: But then I found the summer place was at the
Speaker 3: University of Hartford, and it was a camp that was
Speaker 3: split in half. So in the morning, depending on where
Speaker 3: you were, it was either morning or afternoon. Morning you
Speaker 3: would pick your sports, whatever you want to do, soccer, baseball, football,
Speaker 3: and then you'd have lunch and swim, and then the
Speaker 3: afternoon was fun. Academics all at the university, so you
Speaker 3: could do rocketry or photography or any of these really
Speaker 3: cool things.
Speaker 1: And I ended up going there from the time I
Speaker 1: was like fifth grade too. I became a counselor. Wow,
Speaker 1: it was so much fun. You had camp best friends.
Speaker 2: I'm still dying that you were eight years old going away.
Speaker 1: My first Yeah, my first sleepway camp.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: No, no, not my.
Speaker 1: Kid, Sabrina. I was a heavy smoker by eleven.
Speaker 2: There you go, that's you were your own at eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't. That's the thing. I wasn't on my own.
Speaker 3: We had like my parents and I my family were
Speaker 3: super close, but they also wanted us to experience this.
Speaker 3: So we would go to camp, or I would go
Speaker 3: audition in New York, or I would do the stuff
Speaker 3: that I had to do.
Speaker 2: I did do a camp, but it was through school.
Speaker 2: It was like sixth grade camp. We went up to
Speaker 2: like a lake Arrowhead. I'm now remembering it, and you
Speaker 2: had to go. I remember the rules. We could only
Speaker 2: take like three minute showers. I remember feeling like I
Speaker 2: jumped in and was like and then like jumped out
Speaker 2: and like.
Speaker 1: There were a prison camp. Where were you going?
Speaker 2: Right? We were in the woods doing hikes and six
Speaker 2: grades when like body odor starts happening right, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: why were they letting us shower correctly? That? I just
Speaker 2: remember that, And I was like when all the girls
Speaker 2: were starting to shave their legs and like that was
Speaker 2: not enough time for them. So everyone was just you know,
Speaker 2: it was gross.
Speaker 1: Everyone was on natural.
Speaker 2: And you did that every summer.
Speaker 3: Well, I think, frankly, that's that's a great segue into
Speaker 3: our into our film today. It really is, first of all,
Speaker 3: welcome back to Magical, rewind the show that makes you
Speaker 3: want to grab your friends, your pj's, and your popcorn
Speaker 3: and go back to a time when all the houses
Speaker 3: were smarked, the Wave Tsunamis and the high School's Musical
Speaker 3: and the camps Rock. Yes, because we've got camp Rock tonight. Yes,
Speaker 3: let's grab a mic hat and follow me if you can,
Speaker 3: because we're recapping a dcom smash it. Like I said,
Speaker 3: the two thousand and eight juggernaut that was Camp Rock.
Speaker 3: This was a massive title for the studio, starring two
Speaker 3: up and coming names that would shortly after become some
Speaker 3: of the biggest stars in the Disney orbit and just
Speaker 3: Hollywood in general. And it is right from the high
Speaker 3: School Musical formula that had taken the world by storm
Speaker 3: just two years prior. So rightfully so, Disney had very
Speaker 3: high hopes, and they were right, because Camp Rock premiered
Speaker 3: to eight point nine million viewers on June twentieth, two
Speaker 3: thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: And is still to this date the third.
Speaker 3: Highest view dcom of all time, behind only High School
Speaker 3: Musical two and Wizards of Waverley Place. The movie it
Speaker 3: would go on to air on ABC after The Disney
Speaker 3: Show premiere as part of their Wonderful World of Disney series,
Speaker 3: which is a new synergetic plan for Dcom's going forward,
Speaker 3: as opposed to what President's Daughter did, where it was
Speaker 3: just shot for a Wonderful World of Disney and it
Speaker 3: was at the beginning of the digital release era, so
Speaker 3: it was released for digital purchase on the iTunes store
Speaker 3: that same week. The movie was shot in twenty five
Speaker 3: days over two months at the YMCA Camp Juanaquita I
Speaker 3: Think It Is and Kilco Camp, both in Ontario, Canada,
Speaker 3: but reportedly took seven months to edit. This movie spawned
Speaker 3: a sequel and a reality singing competition TV show, which
Speaker 3: of course makes sense because at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: according to Billboard, the film attracted an audience of one
Speaker 3: hundred and forty six million viewers in one hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty countries and thirty different languages.
Speaker 1: Yikes.
Speaker 3: Merchandise was a large part of the franchise success as well,
Speaker 3: of course, with t shirts, pajamas, back to school supplies, toys, beddings, backpacks, underwear,
Speaker 3: Why Creepy, and novels as just some examples.
Speaker 1: There are of course hats too. These are original hats.
Speaker 1: Thank you Hope, who.
Speaker 3: Is one of our producers and friends the podcast for
Speaker 3: getting us these original hats, which I'm pretty sure we're
Speaker 3: gonna have to return because I think they belong to
Speaker 3: your kids. But anyway, I can't get past the part
Speaker 3: of me wants to see camp Rock underwear and part
Speaker 3: of me does not want to see Camp Rock underwear. No.
Speaker 3: They also had deals with Target, Claires and Limited Too,
Speaker 3: and as is the case with all modern day decoms,
Speaker 3: it had an incredibly amazingly well received soundtrack. The platinum
Speaker 3: selling album features music from Demi Levado, Jonas brothers, other
Speaker 3: cast members. It reached the top ten in six different countries,
Speaker 3: cracking the top three on the Billboard Top two hundred
Speaker 3: charts for four weeks. As you can probably guess from
Speaker 3: the way that we are talking, the movie is currently
Speaker 3: available on Disney Plus. So go take a look now
Speaker 3: or wait until the cows come home and listen to
Speaker 3: us and talk about it first.
Speaker 1: It's your life. You got to make your own decisions.
Speaker 1: So I have to know, Sabrina.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing you knew because we've talked about how you
Speaker 3: thought it was TV movie originally you were familiar with.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was again gotten a chance to. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's considered working with the Jonahs brothers. When
Speaker 2: they were on tour with us during our Christmas tour,
Speaker 2: you know, they were they crazy enough. They were the
Speaker 2: opening opening act. It went Jonas brothers, Ali and a
Speaker 2: J and then us, and so we knew that at
Speaker 2: the beginning. And these kids were just so I say, kids,
Speaker 2: Kevin and I are the same age, but they were
Speaker 2: just so talented and so focused and just I mean
Speaker 2: the second they go on, you knew them.
Speaker 1: I mean you knew them when they were still called.
Speaker 2: Hanson No no excuse me, sir, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: they were just I mean they were going from our shore,
Speaker 2: our our tour and then sometimes would go and do
Speaker 2: another show later that night. Like they were just they
Speaker 2: were getting their butts off. And when this whole thing
Speaker 2: started to come around from the Daysney Channel, we were
Speaker 2: just so stoked for them because they earned it. They
Speaker 2: were talented, and it was amazing to see them really
Speaker 2: be recognize the way that we felt like they should be.
Speaker 1: So of course, were you share a birthday with which one.
Speaker 2: Nick Jonas September sixteenth, what up?
Speaker 3: Neck?
Speaker 1: And he is he the oldest.
Speaker 2: No, he's the youngest.
Speaker 1: He's the youngest. Okay, gotcha guy, and he is the youngest.
Speaker 2: Man, what a great guy. They were just such good kids,
Speaker 2: like again kids because they were so squeaky clean and
Speaker 2: just they were just good, awesome kids.
Speaker 1: Yeoh, Disney kids. But they weren't always Disney kids. And
Speaker 1: we'll get into that.
Speaker 3: And there were some bumps along the way. I strange enough,
Speaker 3: you know, we alway, this is to the point where
Speaker 3: I'm always.
Speaker 1: Like, hey, I've never heard of this movie. I've never
Speaker 1: seen this movie. But in this case, I had also
Speaker 1: never heard of this movie or seen this I.
Speaker 2: Thought you were gonna ah man. I leaned right into
Speaker 2: that day.
Speaker 1: I knew nothing about it.
Speaker 3: I assumed from the title it was out of camp
Speaker 3: and it had something to do with rock.
Speaker 1: I turned out, I was great.
Speaker 2: But you knew the Jonas brothers, right of course.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course I knew who the Jones bros.
Speaker 2: Were.
Speaker 3: I will say, though you're gonna think I'm lying, but
Speaker 3: it's this is absolutely the truth. This is the first
Speaker 3: time I have ever seen or heard anything having to
Speaker 3: do with Demi Levado. I know the name, of course,
Speaker 3: but I'd never listen to any of her music. I
Speaker 3: don't think I've ever heard of Demi Lovado song. I
Speaker 3: don't think i've ever heard her speak. I've never watched
Speaker 3: a video. So when she popped up and they it
Speaker 3: said Demi Levado, I went back to her, that's Demi Levado.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, that's pretty shocking.
Speaker 1: I mean literally knew nothing about her.
Speaker 2: She's a mega star.
Speaker 1: She's like a matha star.
Speaker 3: Right again, all the best music in the world was
Speaker 3: made before nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1: I stand right at you.
Speaker 2: You live in that world, okay.
Speaker 1: And so I just didn't know.
Speaker 3: I knew again, knew the name, knew she was a juggernaut,
Speaker 3: knew she was a superstar, obviously, But the first time
Speaker 3: I'd ever seen her walk and talk, she might as
Speaker 3: well have been a black and white photo. I'd never
Speaker 3: seen freaking talented, And she's very talented, obviously. But it's
Speaker 3: time to start the party, because our time is here.
Speaker 3: But first the synopsis, Mitchie desperately wants to spend her
Speaker 3: summer at the prestigious Camp Rock to work on the
Speaker 3: musical abilities, but the only way she can attend is
Speaker 3: so she helps her mom in the camp kitchen, and
Speaker 3: when a visiting pop star hears her singing, he sets
Speaker 3: out to find the girl behind the voice while she
Speaker 3: avoids being discovered as the cook's daughter.
Speaker 2: What did you think, Well, I, you know, watching it
Speaker 2: this time was kinda a little frustrating to me because
Speaker 2: I did I was a fan of this one. I
Speaker 2: really was sure, still am but definitely paid attention. Couldn't
Speaker 2: help myself but pay attention to the wholes that were
Speaker 2: within this situation. There are and I think for me,
Speaker 2: what I watched before was I look at it now
Speaker 2: and go I think I only watched the performances of this,
Speaker 2: Like I don't remember any of the blot of things
Speaker 2: that happened. You know, the ending obviously will get there,
Speaker 2: but like I was like, I don't know, it was good.
Speaker 2: I still loved it. I think the Jonas brothers when
Speaker 2: they get up on that stage, you just see the talent.
Speaker 2: I think, oh U Ki's just absolutely so good. Her voice.
Speaker 2: I don't even think they really showcased her voice as
Speaker 2: great as it actually is in this first movie.
Speaker 3: No, they did a lot of weird things with a
Speaker 3: lot of talent in this movie where it's like why
Speaker 3: is that person in this movie, and you don't use
Speaker 3: what they're good, yes, which I had that with a
Speaker 3: couple different characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah for me.
Speaker 3: Again, I have no nostalgia tached this movie. There are
Speaker 3: some big, gaping holes.
Speaker 1: In this movie.
Speaker 3: It's easy to see the star pounder of the movie. Obviously,
Speaker 3: easy to see the star power of the movie. Like
Speaker 3: the second the Jonas brothers get on stage, you can
Speaker 3: tell they are rockstar.
Speaker 2: However, I wish I could ask Joe. I wish I
Speaker 2: would have asked him back then, what was your feeling
Speaker 2: when they told you or you read in the script
Speaker 2: that you were going to be teaching dance?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other one's really dumb and they're just
Speaker 3: that is.
Speaker 2: Not his wheelhouse at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not the best actors in this movie at
Speaker 3: this point.
Speaker 1: This is the start of their career.
Speaker 3: And that was the thing that's so jarring is the
Speaker 3: acting wasn't great, but then the second they step on
Speaker 3: stage with their instruments, you're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, rockstar rocks.
Speaker 3: That's where they live, they're rock stars, that's where they belong.
Speaker 1: So I didn't hate this movie, but this.
Speaker 3: Coming off a high school musical and some of the
Speaker 3: others that we've seen Lemonade Mouths some of the other
Speaker 3: strictly musical musicals.
Speaker 2: What this was not my favorite strictly musical musical. See
Speaker 2: You're Coming, You're Coming, you are?
Speaker 3: I am, yes, I am able to distinguish which of
Speaker 3: the horrible diseases I would rather have. I'm kidding, of course, no,
Speaker 3: I just I'm still not a musical person, but I'm
Speaker 3: I'm starting to be able to tell, like.
Speaker 2: The difference of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good way they've.
Speaker 3: Done this back, Like to me, the Teen Beach Movie,
Speaker 3: the music hasn't stuck in my head the way it
Speaker 3: has with Lemonade Mouth, where I can still hear the
Speaker 3: songs from Lemonade Mouth. I remember nothing from Camper, none
Speaker 3: of the songs. But like the dancing in Teen Beach Movie,
Speaker 3: the set pieces they were doing incredible, So I'm starting
Speaker 3: to see why people love them because of the intricacies
Speaker 3: and the visuals. Some of the music that's written, the
Speaker 3: visuals really incredible, and I thought some of them faltered
Speaker 3: a little bit on this one. Like again, I know
Speaker 3: nothing of dance. I don't think the dance in this
Speaker 3: movie was particularly good.
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but like, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It's not great, right, and it's just crazy because they
Speaker 2: have some really good dancers.
Speaker 1: One especially. Yeah, we'll get into that.
Speaker 3: So the movie stars at mostly unknown singer actress who
Speaker 3: I just met on the screen, not in real life,
Speaker 3: named Demi Lvado.
Speaker 1: She's great. She'd be go her career as a kid
Speaker 1: on Barney and Friends.
Speaker 3: Then was the lead in the Disney interstitial series as
Speaker 3: The Bell Rings, which were two to five minute comedy
Speaker 3: segments airing on the channel.
Speaker 1: Then she broke out as Mitche Torres in Camp Rock.
Speaker 3: This was her big one, a role that catapulted her
Speaker 3: into the stratosphere. Since then, she has focused mostly on
Speaker 3: her music and went on to sell over two hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty four million records in the US. With an
Speaker 3: MTV Video Music Award, fourteen Teen Choice Awards, five People's
Speaker 3: Choice Awards, two Latin American Music Awards, and a Grammy nomination,
Speaker 3: she is an A list music icon. She's also become
Speaker 3: a high profile philanthropist for mental health issues. God bless
Speaker 3: her because people like myself who deal with mental health,
Speaker 3: we need more people talking about it. Substance abuse, animal rights,
Speaker 3: and the LGBTQ community are some of her passions, just
Speaker 3: to name a few. She's become an a list name,
Speaker 3: like I've said, and it all started right here. Then
Speaker 3: there is Joe Jonas, who plays Shane Gray, and I
Speaker 3: tried to ignore the fact that that sounds also like
Speaker 3: the lead from fifty Shades of Gray, the bad boy
Speaker 3: member of the pop trio fake group in this movie
Speaker 3: Connect three. In real life, he's one third of the
Speaker 3: Jonas Brothers, a family pop group who all appear in
Speaker 3: this movie as his bandmates. It was their acting debut
Speaker 3: and that showed though they'd been making music videos since
Speaker 3: two thousand and five with some success, but also had
Speaker 3: a lot of industry ups and downs, which is what
Speaker 3: we were talking about. They actually got dropped by their
Speaker 3: label in two thousand and seven, dough to that label YEAO,
Speaker 3: because wow, did you miss out on the power band
Speaker 3: that is the Jonas Brothers. And then they connected with
Speaker 3: Disney and Hollywood Records, and of course the rest is history.
Speaker 3: Disney and Hollywood Records really know what they're doing with
Speaker 3: stuff like this. They were closely connected to the Hannah
Speaker 3: Montana universe and eventually turned into their own reality show
Speaker 3: on the Channel and participating in things like the Disney
Speaker 3: Channel games, where if they weren't on the yellow team,
Speaker 3: probably did very very well.
Speaker 2: Evan was on the yellow team. He knows my pain.
Speaker 3: He knows he knows your pain. He feels it with you.
Speaker 3: Another fun fact about camp Rock while filming the movie,
Speaker 3: this is how impressive and prolific these young men were
Speaker 3: at not only at the time but now, but especially
Speaker 3: at the time. While filming the movie, they co wrote
Speaker 3: and co produced six songs for Devin Levada.
Speaker 2: While doing those are probably just some kids that actually
Speaker 2: made an album. They probably did twenty five of them.
Speaker 2: I mean that they were just right spewing out talent
Speaker 2: wherever they were boom.
Speaker 3: And again, as I sit here and say they're not
Speaker 3: the best actors in the world, I will always then
Speaker 3: bracket it by saying the second they grabbed their instruments
Speaker 3: and got on stage, they were rock stars, and you
Speaker 3: could tell absolutely. They've since, of course, gone on to
Speaker 3: be huge forces in the music industry, weaving in and
Speaker 3: out of nostalgic reunions and solo albums, while Nick continues
Speaker 3: to act in movies like Midway and Jumanji. Jumanji, in
Speaker 3: my opinion, was the best movie of that year and.
Speaker 1: He was amazing.
Speaker 3: So he clearly kept up with his acting and killed it.
Speaker 3: He was awesome, and he was great in Midway too.
Speaker 3: Not not a great movie, but he was good in it.
Speaker 3: So you know, he obviously was. This was their first
Speaker 3: and you could tell it was their first, and you
Speaker 3: got to give him a little bit of a pass
Speaker 3: for actually being musicians and in their first movie.
Speaker 2: It definitely wasn't their focus at that time, right, They
Speaker 2: were focused so much on their music, so you know.
Speaker 3: Exactly, so it didn't. It didn't bump me at all.
Speaker 3: I totally got it, and it was perfect casting. This
Speaker 3: is exactly what you wanted, not only for the love
Speaker 3: interest and all that kind of stuff, but also for
Speaker 3: the synergy of dcoms in the Disney Channel.
Speaker 1: This is what they are amazing at.
Speaker 3: Megan Martin plays the evil villain of the film test
Speaker 3: Tyler and Man is she mean? The stuck up daughter
Speaker 3: of a famous pop star who makes Mitchie's life a
Speaker 3: living hell, and she's another familiar face as a Disney
Speaker 3: Channel guest star. She would also play Bianca on the
Speaker 3: Ten Things I Hate About You sitcom and Julie on
Speaker 3: Awkward and Video Game Fans of course, will recognize her
Speaker 3: as the voice of Nemine. Am I saying this right,
Speaker 3: guess is as good as my nominee. I don't know
Speaker 3: which is even worse to say, because it's in The
Speaker 3: Kingdom Hearts Games, which I'm also in. Wow, and she
Speaker 3: is Jessica in Until Dawn. This is where I've started
Speaker 3: to have a problem, going what are you thinking? Because
Speaker 3: Alison Stoner is Caitlin Mitchie's new nerdy friend, and at
Speaker 3: the age of just nine, she was the scene stealing
Speaker 3: dancer in Missy Elliott's work at Video and then went
Speaker 3: on to star in the Cheaper by the Dozen movies,
Speaker 3: which are great.
Speaker 1: But she was also in the Step Up franchise.
Speaker 2: Oh that's where you're I get. Okay, I'm with you now,
Speaker 2: I'm like, he must have worked with her?
Speaker 1: What he is?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: No, I didn't work with her. She's just in some
Speaker 3: of the best movies ever. If there is a step Up,
Speaker 3: a Stomp the Yard, a sticket, I am in and
Speaker 3: she was awesome. She also is now a go to
Speaker 3: actress in the field of voiceover. You've heard her as
Speaker 3: Isabella on Phineas and ferb Calie on Pete the Kat
Speaker 3: and Barbara Gordon in Young Justice. One of the problems
Speaker 3: I have is I know almost nothing of Alison Stoner
Speaker 3: except that she is an amazing dancer.
Speaker 2: No dancing for her well in the finale, and the
Speaker 2: small little bits of yeah, she's not showcased what she is.
Speaker 3: You're casting Michael Jordan and then saying we don't want
Speaker 3: you to play basketball, Like, what the.
Speaker 2: Hell We're gonna play tennis?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like she was.
Speaker 3: She's I again, I know nothing of Alison Stoner other
Speaker 3: than she's a good actor. She's a good singer, but
Speaker 3: a phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Dance probably one of the best, I mean and so
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: One of one of the best of her generation arguably.
Speaker 2: Right, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: And you don't and you don't have her dance.
Speaker 2: It's really and they know that about her because this
Speaker 2: is not her first thing on Disney Channel. I don't
Speaker 2: remember what she was, but I you know how Disney
Speaker 2: Channel has like those little interstitial type things. She was
Speaker 2: a part of something where it was her and a
Speaker 2: little she was little little and they would have, you know,
Speaker 2: Disney Channel stars come and they do little interviews. So
Speaker 2: she was a part of the channel. They know her
Speaker 2: very well, Mike Super Short show. Yes, there we go.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, I remember my super.
Speaker 2: S a little one in there and she was so
Speaker 2: cute and would.
Speaker 3: Dance yes all the time, and they and yeah, and
Speaker 3: for some reason they cast her and then they don't
Speaker 3: have her dance.
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I had the same thing.
Speaker 3: I will get to it, but I had the same
Speaker 3: thing with the guy with the drumsticks.
Speaker 1: He's banging on.
Speaker 3: Everything except a genie pair of drums.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? How do you not put that
Speaker 1: man in front of.
Speaker 3: A drum set after setting us up for two freaking
Speaker 3: hours with him beating on everything else.
Speaker 2: I was angry, Sabrina, and you know how I feel
Speaker 2: about people just randomly drumming on crap all the time,
Speaker 2: Like I thought about, this kid doesn't stop.
Speaker 3: Oh we'll get into that, because it's the first thing
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, Sabrina, Oh, Sabrina, that's the first
Speaker 3: thing I thought about. The movie runs ninety seven minutes,
Speaker 3: which is too long for the bulls Eye. Unfortunately, it
Speaker 3: is directed by Matthew Diamond, who had worked on TV
Speaker 3: shows like Family Ties, Golden Girls, That's a Raven three
Speaker 3: great shows, but Camp Rock was really his first musical.
Speaker 3: He'd later go on to direct So You Think You
Speaker 3: Can Dance, and a lot of great TV music specials
Speaker 3: like Live from the Lincoln Center. Annie directed Billy Crystal
Speaker 3: Mister Saturday Night, a new musical comedy on Broadway. The
Speaker 3: movie is written by four different names, but one is
Speaker 3: very familiar to those of well my generation, Julie Brown
Speaker 3: of MTVV.
Speaker 2: You know Julie Brown from MTV.
Speaker 3: Now not Downtown Julie, Maybe not then, not Downtown Julie Brown,
Speaker 3: but Julie Brown, who also appeared in Clueless, Earth Girls
Speaker 3: Are Easy, which she also wrote, and a Goofy movie.
Speaker 3: She is the word renaissance woman of her time is
Speaker 3: so understated. She also appears in Camp Rock. She's the
Speaker 3: musical director de La Duke. And seriously, if you've got
Speaker 3: a couple minutes and you want to just look at
Speaker 3: a bonker's career of somebody who is good at everything,
Speaker 3: go check out her IMDb because it is all over
Speaker 3: the place and she has succeeded in so many I
Speaker 3: mean it's like, oh she wrote that, Oh she's in that,
Speaker 3: Oh she directed that.
Speaker 1: Oh she it's great, So go check it out. Karen
Speaker 1: just or Gist.
Speaker 3: I don't know which one. Gist is credited. She's still
Speaker 3: a very successful writer and showrunner on TV with credits
Speaker 3: like Mixed Dish, Gray's Anatomy, Revenge, One Tree Hill, and
Speaker 3: the upcoming movie Sister Act three, So very prolific writer.
Speaker 1: Same with another credited writer, Regina Hicks.
Speaker 3: She's still absolutely killing it too as a writer, producer,
Speaker 3: and showrunner with credits like The Upshaws, Insecure, and The Mayor.
Speaker 3: And she appears to still be working with Gist or
Speaker 3: guest let's say Karen As. She's also working on Sister
Speaker 3: Act three. And lastly, we have Paul Brown, who came
Speaker 3: from one of my favorite shows of all time, Quantum Leap,
Speaker 3: with Julie Brown who also worked at Quantum Leaps. So
Speaker 3: maybe that's their connection and we might have two writing
Speaker 3: teams here, but that's just a guess. Okay, we already
Speaker 3: talked about this, but there's a lot of dancing in
Speaker 3: this movie, almost none from the best dancer of her generation,
Speaker 3: one of the maliceon Start, and we've already kind of
Speaker 3: talked about what you think of the dancing, because again,
Speaker 3: as somebody who knows and what I mean, nothing about dancing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't look great.
Speaker 2: No, it was interesting because at this point everyone wants
Speaker 2: to work with Disney, but especially in this world now,
Speaker 2: like the first movie of the Cheetah Girls, they were
Speaker 2: trying to I'm sure kind of pulling right now, we're
Speaker 2: on Camp Rock Days, and it's like everyone in this
Speaker 2: industry that's doing dance wants to get something on the channel.
Speaker 2: So you would think that they'd have this incredible I
Speaker 2: don't know, it just really wasn't what it should have
Speaker 2: been where we're at in the world of Disney Channel.
Speaker 2: This didn't hit the mark like it really could have
Speaker 2: and should have.
Speaker 3: Now, as the resident expert, which you clearly are, is this,
Speaker 3: well you are?
Speaker 1: You laugh but you are? I mean, is this.
Speaker 3: A problem with the actors dancing? Is it a choreography problem?
Speaker 2: No, it's not the actors that they've got dancers in it, right.
Speaker 1: You've got Alison Stoner, for gods.
Speaker 2: I mean, however, Joe Jonas is not the one to
Speaker 2: have doing a lot of choreography, right Right. It almost
Speaker 2: felt like, why wasn't the whole thing like a rock camp.
Speaker 2: Why did they need to be dancing? You know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Right? Camp pop would have been better.
Speaker 2: I think maybe right with it being camp rock, they
Speaker 2: didn't really need to move that much. It could have
Speaker 2: just been lots of different band type stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: Like lemonade Mouth, right, like a lemonade Mouth kind of
Speaker 1: band slam.
Speaker 2: Right, which they And that's the thing even with lemonade
Speaker 2: Mouth when they did the finale and they were so
Speaker 2: they were all dancing so much, it was kind of like,
Speaker 2: I like what you guys did, like just the instruments,
Speaker 2: because you need a high school musical, a Cheetah Girls
Speaker 2: that was more hip hop, a rock band, you need
Speaker 2: all that, right, Like like they didn't need to do
Speaker 2: it the same Like as I don't know, I don't
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 3: They hadn't yet made a foray into rock for young,
Speaker 3: younger viewers.
Speaker 2: I don't think at this time because lemonade Mouth is
Speaker 2: way after.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so this could have been their opportunity to
Speaker 3: really rock out.
Speaker 2: That's who they besides Alison and then you know some
Speaker 2: of the smaller roles. Their main actors were Demi, who's
Speaker 2: not a dancer, right, and the Jonas brothers, who.
Speaker 1: Are not dancers.
Speaker 2: That's not what they do.
Speaker 1: They're musicians.
Speaker 2: They're musicians, Yeah, exactly. You know, same with Demi because
Speaker 2: I don't know how many instruments she does play, but
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure she at least does the piano because
Speaker 2: I think I've seen that in one of her shows
Speaker 2: and stuff. So, yeah, it just didn't make sense. It
Speaker 2: was kind of reaching when they didn't need to. They
Speaker 2: should have just really focused on what they had. I agree,
Speaker 2: except for Allison.
Speaker 3: So before we actually break down the movie, did you
Speaker 3: have a favorite song? That's one of the other problems
Speaker 3: I have with this is I literally don't remember a
Speaker 3: single song from it, except maybe the one they do
Speaker 3: at the end, where again it's a duet that they
Speaker 3: hadn't rehearsed.
Speaker 1: That's perfect.
Speaker 2: I liked the song that went throughout the movie, This
Speaker 2: is Me.
Speaker 3: That's the one that she's that she's writing herself that
Speaker 3: he's trying to find the voice of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did like that. I thought it was catchy
Speaker 2: and I felt like it was like a good message
Speaker 2: for young girls too, and I think that it really
Speaker 2: resonated with a lot of fans. So I liked that song.
Speaker 2: But again, same thing. I remember the performance aspect of
Speaker 2: the song that the Jonas brothers do. I have no
Speaker 2: idea what it was about, and I have no idea
Speaker 2: what the song name would have been. Honestly agree.
Speaker 1: I agree. All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 3: We start with Mitchie excitedly waking up for a bed
Speaker 3: and immediately letting the audience know that she's very into
Speaker 3: music by playing almost every instrument known to man, keyboard, guitar,
Speaker 3: pro tools, and we see a notebook to let us
Speaker 3: know that she's also a songwriter. We also get a
Speaker 3: very weird moment where she looks at the camera but
Speaker 3: also just spins around to look backwards at her own
Speaker 3: room before she leaves, like she's amazed she woke up
Speaker 3: in the morning, yeah, which was a little strange. And
Speaker 3: then there's she breaks the fourth wall and then it
Speaker 3: never happens again, so almost you almost wonder if it
Speaker 3: was done by accident or I don't know, But we
Speaker 3: get her messing around with her hair in the mirror,
Speaker 3: wearing smaller and smaller sunglasses. She's just getting ready for
Speaker 3: school as a cool, quirky teen. She runs downstairs for
Speaker 3: breakfast with their mom, and on the TV we learn
Speaker 3: of Shane Gray, a trouble pop star in the band
Speaker 3: Connect three, and he's once again found himself in hot water.
Speaker 3: He stormed off the set of their newest music video
Speaker 3: and the label is furious he needs to clean up
Speaker 3: his act and their summer tour has been canceled. Are
Speaker 3: they good to tour with? You said you went on tour?
Speaker 3: I imagine all this is made.
Speaker 1: Up for the movie.
Speaker 3: And they're actually, especially at the time, really great people.
Speaker 2: Yes, the sweetest and super supportive. And I mean, even
Speaker 2: though our genre was so vastly different from what they did,
Speaker 2: they would come and watch our sets and you could
Speaker 2: tell they were just like sponges. They just wanted to
Speaker 2: learn and musicians, and yes, it was just I mean,
Speaker 2: they really just were so pressive. And this was before
Speaker 2: they even blew up.
Speaker 1: So that's awesome, Mitchie.
Speaker 3: So this is where we learned that Mitchie so badly
Speaker 3: wants to go to Camp Rock the first time we've
Speaker 3: heard this, a high profile summer camp for aspiring musicians.
Speaker 3: But no matter how many hints she drops to her mom,
Speaker 3: it's just too expensive for their family. Her mom's catering
Speaker 3: business is just taking off, so they just don't have
Speaker 3: the means. But it still bums out Mitchie and in
Speaker 3: turn her mom. But good news, her mom has been
Speaker 3: asked to cook at Camp Rock, which means that Mitchie
Speaker 3: can attend for a discounted rate, but she does have
Speaker 3: to help in the kitchen. Mitchie is thrilled, and just
Speaker 3: like that, we are there at Camp Rock. They set
Speaker 3: this up where the camp is so musical for the
Speaker 3: first time we see a kid.
Speaker 1: This is all.
Speaker 3: This is where I was like, oh, Sabrina, because I
Speaker 3: didn't know what this movie was gonna be. I didn't
Speaker 3: know if they were all going to break into like
Speaker 3: wear at Camp Rock, Like, I didn't know any of that.
Speaker 3: So when he comes out and he starts banging on
Speaker 3: the thing, I was like, oh, Sabrina's favorite whether they
Speaker 3: can get a beat from just random keys and kicking
Speaker 3: birds and whatever the hell's happening. So yeah, and then
Speaker 3: the fact, raise myself, this kid drums on every freaking
Speaker 3: thing in the movie except drums.
Speaker 2: Never once, never gets a drum an actually drum.
Speaker 3: Now they don't put this kid in the end as
Speaker 3: the best drummer in the world.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. It's so many weird.
Speaker 2: We want to see, like Travis Barker looking just like, go,
Speaker 2: go go, give him a moment.
Speaker 3: Then Tommy Lee, he's ripping it up. He's just a
Speaker 3: great drummer. But no, so other campers break dance while
Speaker 3: walking off the bus because they can't even wait a
Speaker 3: second more to boogie the places. Apparently it's like Fame,
Speaker 3: if Fame had grass and some serious mosquitos and probably
Speaker 3: some sort of river flu or something like that. So
Speaker 3: Mitchie arrives just in time to see Test Tyler, great
Speaker 3: Disney name. Anytime you get into a literation, it's always great.
Speaker 3: Test Tyler, a blonde diva whose mom is a Grammy
Speaker 3: winning pop singer. She's pompously arriving in her own limo.
Speaker 3: We also meet Brown Cceria, the camp director, who announces
Speaker 3: he was also in a band called the White Crows,
Speaker 3: which does not sound like a name you could actually
Speaker 3: legally use. It's like calling yourself the Rolling Pebbles or
Speaker 3: Green Floyd. He does seem like a nice enough guy, though,
Speaker 3: and they make him kind of the cool camp director
Speaker 3: h English guy rock star. I frankly thought they were
Speaker 3: going to set it up that actually he was never
Speaker 3: involved in music, but what the heck?
Speaker 1: They it was very great.
Speaker 3: So we're now back at the camp and Mitchie meets Caitlyn,
Speaker 3: and aspiring music producer who, in her first scene gives
Speaker 3: us this incredible small look into her beats.
Speaker 1: If we could play this.
Speaker 3: Clip, Hi, I'm Caitlyn Camber today top selling music producer
Speaker 3: tomorrow check me out.
Speaker 2: Cool, I'm Mitchie.
Speaker 1: That's it. What a pioneer.
Speaker 3: You can tell she's going to take the musical world
Speaker 3: by storm because it's and.
Speaker 1: That's it, and it sounds like a video it does.
Speaker 3: We also learn about Final Jam, which is the end
Speaker 3: of camp performance where somebody is crowned a winner, and
Speaker 3: it seems like a very big deal, so much so
Speaker 3: that the musical director says oh la and announces for
Speaker 3: the very first time, they'll be joined by a celebrity instructor.
Speaker 1: It turns out to be.
Speaker 3: The shamed Shane Gray, who is also a former Camp
Speaker 3: rocker and the nephew of the camp director.
Speaker 1: Brown.
Speaker 3: His band Connect three wants him to go to work
Speaker 3: at the camp as a pr move until things smooth
Speaker 3: over with the label. Also, Connect three told the press
Speaker 3: he'd be recording a duet with the winner of Final Jams,
Speaker 3: so that's some added pressure. Not only a Shane, but
Speaker 3: also on whoever gets to win. It's like you, It's
Speaker 3: essentially like getting a record contract. You're gonna be with
Speaker 3: one of the biggest bands of the world. You get
Speaker 3: to record a duet with the guy everybody wants to
Speaker 3: record with.
Speaker 1: I don't want to harp on this, and we're not
Speaker 1: gonna harp on this. I'm just gonna say.
Speaker 3: As rock stars who have never been in a movie before,
Speaker 3: they were okay, why don't we Why don't we say
Speaker 3: that about the Jonas brothers because this is not their
Speaker 3: for Hey, this is always what I like to say.
Speaker 3: They're much better actors than I would be a rock
Speaker 3: star O best best way to put it. Mitchie feels
Speaker 3: inferior and scared. She's not a type A person when
Speaker 3: it comes to performing, but she feels safe alone at
Speaker 3: the piano singing, which she does the first day at camp.
Speaker 3: Shane Gray hears her singing from outside a window because
Speaker 3: he's avoiding the adoring campers, but he doesn't get to
Speaker 3: see her face. He just loves what he hears and
Speaker 3: very clearly is attracted the voice, and he needs to
Speaker 3: know who that was. Caitlyn tells Mitchie that talent means
Speaker 3: nothing at camp What a downer, she says. Money rules
Speaker 3: the social scene, which is why mean girl tests is
Speaker 3: so popular. Considering Mitchie can only afford Camp Rock because
Speaker 3: her mom is the manual labor. This puts her in
Speaker 3: a very tough predicament to be liked. So what does
Speaker 3: she do what a lot of kids do in this situation.
Speaker 3: She lies and she tells everyone that her mom is
Speaker 3: the president of Hot Tunes TV in China, which is
Speaker 3: the very perfect international kind of lie.
Speaker 1: Like my Canadian girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Sarah, she was real, she was real, she wasn't. And
Speaker 3: because her mom seems like a very big deal in
Speaker 3: the industry, now, Tess and the cool girls want her
Speaker 3: in their cabin. So Mitchie ditches her new nerdy pal
Speaker 3: Caitlin with those sick beats, she just dropped and has
Speaker 3: to wake up early every morning to sneak away to
Speaker 3: the kitchen to help her mom. Also, we realize that
Speaker 3: Tessa's famous mom pays very little attention to her daughter,
Speaker 3: and that was sad, and you could tell that Tessa's
Speaker 3: having these kind of moments because her mom is too
Speaker 3: busy to.
Speaker 1: Care about what she's actually doing right, very.
Speaker 3: Sad Brown Then goes to teach his very first class ever,
Speaker 3: and in a very gotta kick it up way, they
Speaker 3: are already dancing before the lesson even begin.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna harp on this either, but the dancing
Speaker 1: it all just seems so awkward. It's really really strange.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Counselor Brown says everybody has to sing in front
Speaker 3: of the class, and he picks Mitchie to sing, even
Speaker 3: though she doesn't put her hand up, and after some
Speaker 3: initial nerves, she blows the class away with her original song,
Speaker 3: so much so that the cool girls take it one
Speaker 3: step further and ask her.
Speaker 1: To join their group for final Jam, but singing in
Speaker 1: the background.
Speaker 3: And you can tell at this point that Tess is
Speaker 3: only asking her to join because she doesn't want her
Speaker 3: to go on her own solo mission because she's so good, right.
Speaker 2: She's keeping her enemies close.
Speaker 3: Oh exactly close to the final jam chest, Mitchie was
Speaker 3: thinking of singing solo, but gives into her peer pressure
Speaker 3: and her dreams of being cool, so she agrees.
Speaker 1: Did you notice all of the clothing in this movie
Speaker 1: the wardrobe? Yeah? What did you think about the closes?
Speaker 2: It's all over my sabrinas seems this is at a time.
Speaker 1: Where everyone went to the gap.
Speaker 2: It's more like what is it Contempo or those other stores.
Speaker 2: But it's like the shirts of the girls are so long,
Speaker 2: and it's if it's not a long enough shirt, there's
Speaker 2: a layer under that goes longer. They are just I
Speaker 2: mean it's just layer layers. Oh yeah. And at the
Speaker 2: time they even would do if that's the look you
Speaker 2: were going for, you would even have it was almost
Speaker 2: just a band that went around your hips. It wasn't
Speaker 2: even an actual shirt that you would layer. It would
Speaker 2: go like a band and then you'd put your shirt
Speaker 2: on over it to.
Speaker 1: Make it that way, so it was like really thick belt.
Speaker 1: You would first put.
Speaker 2: On this just like a cotton T shirt, like what
Speaker 2: would be at the bottom of it, but instead of
Speaker 2: having to wear two shirts, they would create bands, so
Speaker 2: then you could just always like put your second layer there.
Speaker 1: So it was like a fake second shirt.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, yeah it was. And the jewelry was very chunky,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you noticed that or not.
Speaker 3: I did not notice chunky jewelry, except of course for
Speaker 3: the chunky bracelet that the.
Speaker 1: Bras becomes important.
Speaker 2: It's a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are back in the kitchen now, and while
Speaker 3: helping your mom on the download, Shane suddenly appears so
Speaker 3: just like misdoubtfire, Mitchie covers thinking quick covers your face
Speaker 3: and flour, and Shane for some reason acts like a
Speaker 3: I mean, they've really made him an a hole. He
Speaker 3: comes out here, yeah, and is just a jerk to her.
Speaker 3: You know, I have food allergies and I thought my
Speaker 3: manager set this up. So they're really setting them up
Speaker 3: like he is the trouble Madonna. Yeah, turtle Prima Donna.
Speaker 3: And Mitchie puts him in his place, kind of says, hey,
Speaker 3: don't be a dick, and.
Speaker 1: It starts this.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is another thing I noticed. It starts this
Speaker 3: movie's obsession with being shamed as being kind of kinky
Speaker 3: or romantic. And I'll keep everyone loves to be insulted
Speaker 3: in this movie, and I'll keep pointing it out because
Speaker 3: she in turn degrades him, and he seems to like
Speaker 3: it since it's a celebrity. He never hears anything like that.
Speaker 3: And this just keep I'll keep pointing out. It just
Speaker 3: keeps happening where somebody's like, hey, you smell and you're stupid, and.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, my god, I love that. It's really weird.
Speaker 2: It's it's awkward in some points too. Just yes, what Yeah.
Speaker 3: And there's a very kind of very quick personality changes
Speaker 3: where in one line you're a jerk and in the
Speaker 3: next line you're instantly kind of almost lovey, dovey and flirty. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the writing was strange at that point, Shane. It turns
Speaker 3: out miss teaching his first class, but now he is
Speaker 3: going to be joining Mitchie and the cool Girls in
Speaker 3: a dance class, where we hear the iconic line grab
Speaker 3: a mic and a hat and follow me if you can.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about this scene. I
Speaker 1: just don't know. Can you please take it away? Sabrina?
Speaker 1: What did you? What did you think of this scene?
Speaker 2: This was again when I'm going I just it's just
Speaker 2: so far from anything that Joe Jonas is known for
Speaker 2: would ever want to do.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's not fair.
Speaker 3: How did they not have him teach a songwriting class
Speaker 3: or a singing class?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it just is it. Even in his band,
Speaker 2: they were not put across as a boy band, right
Speaker 2: the musician next and scene they're musicians, So it just
Speaker 2: it really did not make sense. At all to have
Speaker 2: this scene and it just was frustrating at this point
Speaker 2: for me. Again, you have Alison, but yes, why wasn't
Speaker 2: she if she's a producer and a dancer and you know,
Speaker 2: why not have her do it? I mean they have
Speaker 2: to give him to do something right, but like.
Speaker 1: This is songwriting class, songwriting class.
Speaker 2: This just wasn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean anything, it's it's a strange, strange
Speaker 3: scene in his movie. He teaches them a routine on
Speaker 3: the fly that number one shows that he's not a
Speaker 3: good dancer, and number two there's no way anyone could
Speaker 3: learn from the speed in which he's working.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was so it was like you do it
Speaker 2: once and then he goes all right, here we go
Speaker 2: five six Wait wait wait wait, wait wait wait? Who
Speaker 2: can I see that one more time?
Speaker 3: It must have killed you as a dancer, that she
Speaker 3: must have killed you.
Speaker 2: Yes, it did. It really was just I felt that hard.
Speaker 3: Between the and I because you were like, oh god,
Speaker 3: this is one of this movie so great. I went
Speaker 3: from people banging on sticks and stuff and then to
Speaker 3: the bad dance and I was like, really, this is the.
Speaker 2: Part when I go have I not seen that?
Speaker 3: Might?
Speaker 2: Wait? Wait I don't what.
Speaker 1: I might have just had the baseball hat.
Speaker 2: You might have just had the hat and never saw
Speaker 2: this movie at all.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, well, Tess is starting to suspect something
Speaker 3: with Mitchie's supposed backstory, even having an awkward exchange with
Speaker 3: Mitchie's mom in the cafeteria. Mitchie lies and says she
Speaker 3: knows the chef only because she's cooked for Jessica and
Speaker 3: Nick pre breakup and Pharrell.
Speaker 1: I have a question, Yes, who are Jessica and Nick?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm assuming they're talking about Jessica Simpson and Nick Lache. Ah, okay,
Speaker 2: Nick ninety eight degrees. God, they had a big reality
Speaker 2: show and I that was big at this time of Okay, I.
Speaker 1: Ask where she thought Chicken of the Sea or whatever
Speaker 1: was actually real.
Speaker 2: She's the one that yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 1: No, I know who. I actually know who they are.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know when I heard Justine Nick, I didn't.
Speaker 2: Okay that reference, right, gotcha?
Speaker 1: So the lie is obviously getting deeper and deeper.
Speaker 3: It's now the night of the Campfire performances, which has
Speaker 3: the Cool Girls singing a song with Mitchie in the background.
Speaker 3: The song gives very we love to talk about mudslide
Speaker 3: crush from Lemonade Mouth, very mud mudslide crush vibes, and
Speaker 3: it's a run for the wildly conceited.
Speaker 1: So anyway, here are the lyrics.
Speaker 2: Yes, here we go.
Speaker 1: You follow and I lead.
Speaker 3: You want to be like me, You're just a wanna
Speaker 3: be love it or hate it me myself and I agree,
Speaker 3: you'll never catch.
Speaker 1: Up to me. I'm too cool to know you, to
Speaker 1: know you.
Speaker 3: And again another sign of people loving to be degraded
Speaker 3: in this movie. The audience loves it. They're like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, you are too cool for me.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't.
Speaker 3: I should poke out my own eyes then rather gaze
Speaker 3: upon your band.
Speaker 1: What did you think of the song?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 2: I mean, I had to rewind it going. I've got
Speaker 2: to hear these lyrics again. There's just no way. No,
Speaker 2: you're okay no, I heard.
Speaker 1: It right, Yeah, okay, okay, I got it.
Speaker 2: I heard it right, I got it.
Speaker 1: That was okay.
Speaker 2: Hell Because again it's the same thing that I had
Speaker 2: said with Lemonade Mouth. I get it. They have to
Speaker 2: be bad so that when it's good, it's good, but
Speaker 2: it also is I don't know if it has.
Speaker 1: To be that bad cartoony bad. It doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1: Mitchie later finds Shane performing on a bench near the river.
Speaker 3: And he's so mad that she she walks up and
Speaker 3: he's like, go, what the wow?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm just I'm gonna walk this way.
Speaker 3: Then seriously, I won't even look at you, my bade.
Speaker 2: It's just so over the.
Speaker 3: Top, curious with her, more shaming, even ridiculing her for
Speaker 3: saying sorry twice. And guess what, she loves it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this must be the origin of negging. This is it.
Speaker 3: They eventually start to vibe, especially once she insults him
Speaker 3: by calling the cookie cutter pop music. But she loves
Speaker 3: the music he's playing now, and he says it's the
Speaker 3: direction that he wants to go, but the label won't
Speaker 3: let him. We learned that's why he's acting out. D
Speaker 3: COM's really involve overbearing labels a lot in their movies.
Speaker 3: You know. Cheetah Girls is another example, and it's yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: Lemonade Mouth too. This time it's Lemonadier. I'm sure it
Speaker 3: would have been about the you know, them selling out and.
Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Yes, totally, we are now back in the cafeteria, Tests
Speaker 3: and Caitlin get into a fight, putting Mitchie in the middle,
Speaker 3: and we get a Disney signature food fight with spaghetti
Speaker 3: with no sauce. No fuddy just gets dry pasta at
Speaker 3: this camp because.
Speaker 2: They didn't want to mess up the wardrobe.
Speaker 3: You're like, but this is your mom cooking, do you gey, mom?
Speaker 3: Go buy a thing of REOs? Like how hard does
Speaker 3: it get some prego? I'm not saying you got to
Speaker 3: sit there and cook a marin era from scratch all
Speaker 3: morning long, but get a can of sauce going right,
Speaker 3: So it's no sauce. Everyone is just eating dry noodles.
Speaker 3: I could not get over it. I couldn't stop watching it.
Speaker 3: It sounds awful.
Speaker 2: One of my Sabrina sees for sure. I was just like,
Speaker 2: what okay, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Meatbo No, you eat dry pasta when you can't hold
Speaker 3: anything else down. It's like that. It's the pasta equivalent
Speaker 3: of a of a saltine. It's like, what are you
Speaker 3: doing anyway? Caitlyn gets in trouble for the food fight
Speaker 3: and is forced to join kitchen duty, which uh oh,
Speaker 3: we know what that means.
Speaker 1: She might figure out Mitchie's Big Secret.
Speaker 3: But on the good side of things, Shane performs a
Speaker 3: new song for Mitchie and it is a love song
Speaker 3: that he plays while staring at her the entire time.
Speaker 3: Also more lemonade Mouth comparison. Here he's singing with a
Speaker 3: background track at some point, so he's just singing to
Speaker 3: her and yet somehow being backed up and no one
Speaker 3: else is there.
Speaker 2: Right, I knew you were gonna hate that.
Speaker 3: I was like, uh, of course he's got a backup sack.
Speaker 2: We just lost will will come back?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 3: I thought I lost you at Drumming Guy and basically
Speaker 3: the opening credits, So don't get me started.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. What do you feel about?
Speaker 3: And this is a trope in most high schools and
Speaker 3: middle schools, what do you think about acoustic guitar party guy?
Speaker 3: Because there's always that guy who carries his acoustic guitar
Speaker 3: to the party. It's like, I'm writing a song and
Speaker 3: it's like, what do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: Did that work for you?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: I there were a few guys in my high school
Speaker 2: that kind of seemed to always just have their guitars
Speaker 2: with them and you're going, you know.
Speaker 1: What was the band name?
Speaker 3: Again?
Speaker 1: What was the band.
Speaker 2: Name, Dream Dream something Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then when I was on Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 2: Mark and Derek played constantly. They always Mark really did
Speaker 2: have his guitar with him everywhere. I remember him flying
Speaker 2: with it and the way this was like his baby.
Speaker 2: He could not check it. It had to go on
Speaker 2: the plane with him. They had to put it in
Speaker 2: the closet. He could not put it up top with
Speaker 2: you know. It was like a big thing. So I
Speaker 2: guess I don't really mind it because I've seen it
Speaker 2: actually really happening, So it doesn't bother me iver obs
Speaker 2: because I've actually seen it.
Speaker 1: You always kind of give the side an out of
Speaker 1: the guy who brought his acoustic guitar to apart, right,
Speaker 1: You're kind of like she obviously loves the song, and
Speaker 1: he says you inspire.
Speaker 3: He was inspired by the girl he heard singing on
Speaker 3: the first day, but neither of them have any idea
Speaker 3: that it's her. They are certainly falling for each other,
Speaker 3: but she's lied to him about her mom too, so
Speaker 3: she's obviously nervous about someday either having to tell him
Speaker 3: the truth or her lie being found out. It is
Speaker 3: a tough way to start a relationship on a lie.
Speaker 3: And speaking of her lie, we've got nerdy pal Caitlyn.
Speaker 3: She learns the truth when during her dry spaghetti punishment,
Speaker 3: she sees Mitchie working in the kitchen. But as a
Speaker 3: true friend, she's decided two things for her A she's
Speaker 3: going to keep her secret and B she's not gonna
Speaker 3: dance so that everybody else doesn't.
Speaker 1: Look bad in the movie because she's a muscle.
Speaker 3: Dancer, which then sets up a very crazy part of
Speaker 3: the movie, which is Caitlin's sleepover performance where she plays
Speaker 3: a beat and dances.
Speaker 1: I can't keep harping on this.
Speaker 3: They you've got the great, greatest dancer. She doesn't dance
Speaker 3: well and the song's not great. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: And you've got It's like, let this girl go off
Speaker 3: and just just say.
Speaker 1: Alison, We're just gonna film you for ninety seconds. Just dance.
Speaker 2: That's all It would take too for her to pull
Speaker 2: out some just say and it would be incredible scene tricks.
Speaker 3: And I was saying it as a joke, but I
Speaker 3: honestly wonder if because like you said, Demi Levado rockstar,
Speaker 3: the Jonas Brothers rock stars, they're not dancers. You wonder
Speaker 3: if you get an Alison Stoner dancing, if it really
Speaker 3: just makes everybody else look horrible.
Speaker 2: Oh I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know if they're that good. You know you've got again.
Speaker 2: I could see that being a thing. I couldn't say
Speaker 2: that being a thing.
Speaker 3: It's like Corbyn who said he just did he loved
Speaker 3: to dance and sing but didn't play basketball. If you know,
Speaker 3: you cast Michael Jordan next to him, it's gonna make
Speaker 3: him look like a.
Speaker 1: Terrible basketball player. Right, So maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that's what it is, because otherwise they're not
Speaker 3: using her at all. She plays a song that sounds
Speaker 3: like a nineteen eighty seven Nintendo game and everyone loves
Speaker 3: it like she's daft punk. So Test, of course, sabotages
Speaker 3: Caitlyn's performance by pretending she sees a snake and then
Speaker 3: does a hand signal to her that is now forever
Speaker 3: in my brain. Do you remember what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3: The whatever major loser? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, It's.
Speaker 3: Like it's like what ever major loser there? It seems
Speaker 3: like it seems like a long way to go to
Speaker 3: just get to loser, right, But Mitchie finally stands up
Speaker 3: to Test, and then Caitlyn admits that at one time
Speaker 3: she was also a very close friend of Tests and
Speaker 3: also sold her soul to become popular, that Tests treated
Speaker 3: her horribly and eventually dropped her, and now she makes
Speaker 3: weirdo Nintendo beats and dances very badly.
Speaker 1: In Pets. Sane is still looking.
Speaker 3: For the girl with the voice from the beginning of
Speaker 3: the movie, so we get another ridiculous montage where he
Speaker 3: walks up to drum Guy and for some reason, even
Speaker 3: though they're outside and alone, whispers in his ear.
Speaker 1: At this point, I.
Speaker 2: Literally so many of my at my screen. Why why
Speaker 2: are you whispering?
Speaker 1: Why outside of alone? What do you Why are you whispering?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Who's there?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: What are you whispering about?
Speaker 3: But so they just start whispering to each other that
Speaker 3: he needs to find this voice. The montage goes on,
Speaker 3: but Mitchie, who's heard this rumor as well, thinks there's
Speaker 3: no way it's her. She just says, well, he's never
Speaker 3: heard me saying, which which is a good way to
Speaker 3: put because she doesn't know. So she's like, gamp be me.
Speaker 3: Even though they go kayaking together and their relationship is blossoming.
Speaker 3: It never really comes up, and it's weird that he
Speaker 3: never asked if she was the singer or describes the
Speaker 3: lyrics he's heard. But he does tell her most people
Speaker 3: hang out with him for the perks, and she is different,
Speaker 3: so they kind of kept it that way. Then, just
Speaker 3: when things are looking too good to be true, Test
Speaker 3: figures out the big secret that Mitchie's mom is a cook,
Speaker 3: and thus she's poor and poor people suck.
Speaker 1: That's, of course what Test thinks about everything.
Speaker 3: Now it is time for the beach jam and we
Speaker 3: get our first full Jonahs brother's performances Connect three and
Speaker 3: the I'm sitting there watching, going wow, I guess it's
Speaker 3: their first movie. But they cannot act.
Speaker 1: And it's not that they can't act. That's wrong. That's wrong,
Speaker 1: and that's harsh.
Speaker 3: They weren't polished as actors, obviously because it's the first
Speaker 3: thing they did. And then they get on stage, just
Speaker 3: the way they walk on stage and they're holding their instruments.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, rock.
Speaker 3: Stars, Yes, dang, that's where they belong. You saw they
Speaker 3: took a fish that was a little bit flopping out
Speaker 3: of the boat. They put it back in the waters
Speaker 3: like oh.
Speaker 2: Fish like totally.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, you could. That's where they live. They could.
Speaker 3: That is their stage, the spinning around the I mean
Speaker 3: because again we're we've now seen Lemonade Mouth and bands
Speaker 3: that were quote unquote put together, and now you've got
Speaker 3: people that are legitimate rock stars.
Speaker 1: And the way they hold their instruments.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at the way they're holding their instruments
Speaker 3: and then just quickly go back and watch.
Speaker 1: Poof point and so you don't know.
Speaker 3: You know, this is where they live. They're rock stars, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: and so it was great.
Speaker 2: Also Andy Lawrence when he does the same thing, You're
Speaker 2: just like, oh my gosh, that kid plays the guitar
Speaker 2: like he knows how to play the guitar.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's you know, he's another one who travels with
Speaker 3: his guitar. He just he's at one with the guitar,
Speaker 3: you can tell.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 3: So they perform an he's been writing at camp in
Speaker 3: the direction that he wants and everyone loves it, including
Speaker 3: his brothers who are playing it with him. But they
Speaker 3: kind of just realize that they love it, even though
Speaker 3: they've obviously had to rehearse the song anyway.
Speaker 1: But in the celebration.
Speaker 3: Test exposes Mitchie as a liar and her mom as
Speaker 3: the chef, which seems actually like a really great job,
Speaker 3: especially nowadays when you've got the biggest shows in the
Speaker 3: world like The Bear and Kitchen Nightmares and all stuff.
Speaker 3: Being a chef is awesome, but in this movie it's
Speaker 3: like you cook food, you you suck. Unfortunately, Shane overhears
Speaker 3: it all and now he feels betrayed too. This is
Speaker 3: the worst case scenario for Mitchie. Uncle Brown console Shane,
Speaker 3: who thinks he let himself get derailed by falling for Mitchie.
Speaker 1: He needs to focus on his own music.
Speaker 3: Brown also reminds him he's still looking for the girl
Speaker 3: with the voice, and Shane even sings the part he remembers.
Speaker 1: Idiot.
Speaker 3: Tests overhears this and realize it is Mitchie, and now
Speaker 3: she must make sure that Mitchie doesn't make it to
Speaker 3: Final Jam since Connect three are the judges. So we
Speaker 3: go right into a montage now leading up to the
Speaker 3: big day, seeing the cool girls rehearsing, but also Mitchie
Speaker 3: has rejoined Caitlin and her less cool pals to start
Speaker 3: a new band. We see the competition building, which includes
Speaker 3: Mitchie trying on a Boa, so we know that they
Speaker 3: mean business. And now it is finally the Big Days
Speaker 3: barges into the kitchen with camp Director Brown claiming that
Speaker 3: the girls stole her bracelet, the bracelet that was set
Speaker 3: up that her mom gives her a new charm every
Speaker 3: time her mom wins a Grammy, like you do. I
Speaker 3: have the same bracelet I wear every time I win
Speaker 3: a Grammy, I put a new one on.
Speaker 1: No bracelet, no bracelet. So there we go.
Speaker 3: Mitchie and Caitlyn obviously deny having anything to do with this,
Speaker 3: but Director Brown looks over and wedge between two books.
Speaker 1: Bam, there is the bracelet. He finds it in the kitchen.
Speaker 3: They are now banned from camp activities quote until the
Speaker 3: end of Final jam unquote, even though it's obvious to
Speaker 3: everyone that the bracelet was planted. Brown repeats again he
Speaker 3: has no proof and so quote until the end of
Speaker 3: Final jam unquote and leaves.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Shane is still in need of recording his duet for
Speaker 3: the label, and he hopes he'll find the girl with
Speaker 3: the voice of the show. But we know that's impossible
Speaker 3: now since Mitchie is banned from attending quote until the
Speaker 3: end of Final jam unquote. But somehow, right before the show,
Speaker 3: Mitchie gets really excited to still attend Final Jam because
Speaker 3: she's figured something out. So now we're at Final Jam.
Speaker 3: Test gets into a fight with her two mean girl
Speaker 3: band members backstage and they finally stand up for themselves
Speaker 3: and they abandon her, which is finally a good and
Speaker 3: nice come up and for the bully, we get the
Speaker 3: stakes for Final Jam. The winner gets a big trophy
Speaker 3: and a chance to record with Shane.
Speaker 1: So we have to assume.
Speaker 3: Everyone, this long list of people at Camp, act after
Speaker 3: act after act after act is going to fight and
Speaker 3: bring their a game to win the trophy and record
Speaker 3: with Shane.
Speaker 1: The first performance comes up.
Speaker 3: It's a group called the Ostila v The Crue, and
Speaker 3: it's a rap song from characters that we hardly know
Speaker 3: and haven't seen in the movie at all.
Speaker 1: This is a question.
Speaker 3: They perform a song called Asta la Vista, all about
Speaker 3: camp and how hard it will be to leave. So,
Speaker 3: if you're trying to win a big music contest, isn't
Speaker 3: this a very specific song about the camp?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: I don't know how they would have any appeal to win,
Speaker 3: but anyway, it's bad decision making.
Speaker 1: And now, hey, but we've moved on. They were great.
Speaker 1: They do some dancing, we get some rapping. It's fun.
Speaker 1: The second performance now comes up.
Speaker 3: It is Tess now a solo act because her two
Speaker 3: backup singers have walked away, but she is still introduced
Speaker 3: as the it Girls. And guess what, Tessa's mom made
Speaker 3: it to the concert great, But in the middle of
Speaker 3: Tessa's performance, her mom takes a phone call, which throws
Speaker 3: her off. The best part is Tessa's mom just stands
Speaker 3: up and takes the call while still in the auditorium.
Speaker 3: She doesn't even walk out and in turn test stop singing.
Speaker 3: Yet the vocals keep going and even she almost falls
Speaker 3: off stage, so it seems like she's lip syncing, even
Speaker 3: though it's it's you shouldn't be able to lip sync
Speaker 3: if you're at final Jam.
Speaker 1: Come on, this is like, this is not Millie Vanilli
Speaker 1: or the girl from Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 3: Tessa is devastated by her mom and embarrassing herself, so
Speaker 3: she just runs off to the corner to cry. It's
Speaker 3: very sad, and at the last minute we hear someone
Speaker 3: named Margaret Dupree has entered the competition, and my ultimate
Speaker 3: confusions set in yet again. It's apparently one of the
Speaker 3: cool girls that broke off from Tess, who now is
Speaker 3: a solo song to play. She performs it, it's great,
Speaker 3: But for some reason, they also now put in a
Speaker 3: montage of her as the background dancer and a character
Speaker 3: we didn't know anything about, as if she's now supposed to.
Speaker 1: Be the lead of the movie.
Speaker 2: Also, she's playing the guitar. Now, now we've seen Patna's brothers,
Speaker 2: you're gonna put this poor girl on stage playing the guitar,
Speaker 2: which she never plays throughout the whole movie. Never in
Speaker 2: the montage does she have any type of instrument. No,
Speaker 2: it's another weird song with like weird lyrics. It is not.
Speaker 2: I am so confused. I had no idea we were
Speaker 2: supposed to care about this character this much. No, she
Speaker 2: has no backstory of why we care about her. Like honestly,
Speaker 2: it was so confusing.
Speaker 1: So montage literally ends with the fight she just had backstage,
Speaker 1: like two minutes ago. They showed it again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yeah, so I I didn't understand why all
Speaker 3: of a sudden were supposed to be invested in this
Speaker 3: side character. When her song goes over so well, Test
Speaker 3: even compliments her, apologizes for her behavior. And the cool Girl.
Speaker 3: Then they just walk away. There's no closure here whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Just hey, your song was.
Speaker 2: Good, and you should be told because when it's good,
Speaker 2: those people should be told that it's good.
Speaker 3: So it's now, all of a sudden, the official end
Speaker 3: of Final Jam and Connect three is off to judge.
Speaker 3: So of all of the people at Camp Rock, Margaret
Speaker 3: entered last second. So originally they were only supposed to
Speaker 3: be two people performing two performances.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: It looked like a longer list to me.
Speaker 1: But if everyone at the camp yeah, get up there.
Speaker 2: They could have definitely done maybe a montage instead of
Speaker 2: this new character. That could have been a montage of
Speaker 2: quick little snippets of different bands different this different that
Speaker 2: they don't have to even have songs. They could just
Speaker 2: look like they're doing you.
Speaker 3: Know what movie did that brilliantly, Band Slam. Band Slam
Speaker 3: did that. They did a mostage of the twenty acts
Speaker 3: that go before, which is how you're supposed to do it. Anyway,
Speaker 3: this I didn't get it. So again, you had a
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty chant. It was either gonna be the
Speaker 3: It Girls or the Osta Lavista crew. That was it, right,
Speaker 3: those are your choices. Do you think the Jonas brothers
Speaker 3: sat there going like, I don't want to record with
Speaker 3: either the It Girls or Ostell Lavista baby like come.
Speaker 2: On, absolutely well? And also you didn't mention too both
Speaker 2: of those background dancers of Tess are now in different.
Speaker 1: We're a different bands.
Speaker 2: She walked right into that group super fast. How did
Speaker 2: she know the song? Was she already on her way out?
Speaker 2: We didn't know.
Speaker 1: It just seemed really thrown together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thrown together? Yeah? Not sure why?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So Brown announces the end of Final Jam, which is
Speaker 3: when Mitchie appears. She tells Brown quote it's the end
Speaker 3: of Final Jam unquote, and he is ecstatic. He says,
Speaker 3: I was so hoping you'd catch on to that. So
Speaker 3: he tells her to go out there and steal the
Speaker 3: audiences heart.
Speaker 1: What what?
Speaker 3: So he punished her, but wanted to catch some strange
Speaker 3: riddle about showing up at the end of the show.
Speaker 3: This is where I'm talking about great fun actors that
Speaker 3: are going to go on to take Hollywood by storm,
Speaker 3: which they are used in the wrong way with stories
Speaker 3: that had big plot holes in it.
Speaker 1: Because that's what This doesn't make any sense, right?
Speaker 2: How did he even know that she was any good
Speaker 2: at what she does. He there's never a point.
Speaker 1: He heard her that one time, that one time in
Speaker 1: the very first and that's it, right, Okay, that's it.
Speaker 2: But couldn't he have heard her at some point for
Speaker 2: her scene?
Speaker 3: No, because then somebody would have said, you can't hear
Speaker 3: her voice again, because the Jonas brother is looking for
Speaker 3: the voice, so you can't hear, which again makes no sense.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Michie goes out. She performs her song to when
Speaker 1: she sang.
Speaker 3: Alone at the beginning of the movie that Shane heard
Speaker 3: Mitchie's parents love it, but more importantly, in a nice
Speaker 3: slow motion but yet fast turn towards the camera, Shane
Speaker 3: realizes this is who he's been looking for, grabs a microphone,
Speaker 3: jumps into the song and makes it a duet without any.
Speaker 1: Practice at all.
Speaker 3: And now we have the track he promised the label,
Speaker 3: but not the winners. That's not what he's gonna record
Speaker 3: because she doesn't win Final Jam.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that. And now so the love story
Speaker 1: we all wanted.
Speaker 3: They finish very disney esque without a kiss with interlocking fingers.
Speaker 3: Side character who's now the lead of the movie. Margaret
Speaker 3: wins Final jam and the trophy and the chance to
Speaker 3: record with Shane basically just by beating the one Osti
Speaker 3: Lavista Baby group and her old leader now Nemesis.
Speaker 1: Tess can't feel like a huge win. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 3: Tess admits the girls didn't steal the brain then she
Speaker 3: just walks up afterwards again in something it's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: we need to write something.
Speaker 1: So Tess just walks up and goes.
Speaker 3: By the way, I told the director of the camp
Speaker 3: that you didn't steal the bracelet and they're like, hey, thank.
Speaker 1: Have a good summer.
Speaker 2: I just admitted to my life, have a good summer.
Speaker 1: Have a good summer.
Speaker 3: Sorry that I accused you of a felony.
Speaker 1: Have a good summer, And.
Speaker 2: How would you in front of the entire camp?
Speaker 1: Yes, oh that is the best?
Speaker 3: Okay, So yeah, Test feels like a winter, while Mitchie
Speaker 3: finally reveals that even though she didn't win the competition,
Speaker 3: she feels like a winner because it was the best
Speaker 3: summer of her life. For in Shane reunite and start
Speaker 3: their relationship all over, this time with no lies at all.
Speaker 3: We end the movie in a real dcom way with
Speaker 3: an all out cast jam session performing together a little track,
Speaker 3: in this case we Rock, which is the Camp Rock song.
Speaker 3: We saw this in teen Beach movie High School Musical,
Speaker 3: and it's become the formula for a musical franchise attempt.
Speaker 3: It is a nice surprise to see all the characters
Speaker 3: back together and have an anthem for the kids to remember,
Speaker 3: and the crowd goes wild. Mitch and Shane stare into
Speaker 3: each other's eyes and again, no kiss. That is the movie,
Speaker 3: and they do an immediate replay of we Rock over
Speaker 3: the credits, And it was quite a decision to go
Speaker 3: back to back, but I bought this at least because, hey,
Speaker 3: you figure every year at Camp Rock they always end
Speaker 3: with the same song.
Speaker 1: That's how I in my head, it was like, this
Speaker 1: is the end of the year.
Speaker 3: It's like in Dirty Dancing where they always end with
Speaker 3: the big dance that that Patrige crazy does.
Speaker 1: So there you have it is your film. There you
Speaker 1: have it, Camp Camp Rock.
Speaker 3: Let's do real reviews. I have the one star this week, Sabrina,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna read it for you now. This is
Speaker 3: a one star from Nathan m who says the name
Speaker 3: is camp Rock, but there's no real rock music. It's
Speaker 3: all pop, bubblegums, soccer, mom, radio music. Where's the Nirvana
Speaker 3: or ac DC and Metallica? So disappointing. I think putting
Speaker 3: in Nirvana, ACDC or Metallica is probably not what they're
Speaker 3: going for. But he's not wrong about it not being
Speaker 3: like exactly what you said at the beginning.
Speaker 1: You're like, there's no rock, no, So there you go.
Speaker 2: All right, Nathan, thank you for that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Nathan. What do you got for five stars?
Speaker 2: I've got the five star with Salvia?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: How you'd say it? Is that how you'd read it?
Speaker 1: I would I probably wouldn't. I wouldn't say it the
Speaker 1: inflection that you did, which is kind of fun.
Speaker 2: Salvia, Oh Salvia, I don't think I've ever seen that
Speaker 2: name before.
Speaker 1: I think that's I don't think I have either.
Speaker 2: Okay, anyways, moving on, five star, great movie. I will
Speaker 2: definitely not revisit it as a twenty two year old.
Speaker 3: Do you think she's being ironic like she's saying like
Speaker 3: I definitely won't, like I will come back and watch
Speaker 3: it again.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's what she means.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well, we're going to do a fun
Speaker 3: new feature as we do every week. Actually, this one
Speaker 3: is not new. It's still a fun feature. Don't get
Speaker 3: me wrong, folks. Yes, but it's we're going to bring
Speaker 3: back a feature. It is time for the return of
Speaker 3: a very past favorite. It's a game we call even
Speaker 3: more Warped Tour. We played this one when we recapped
Speaker 3: Radio Rebel, a movie that has a ton in common
Speaker 3: with Camp Rock. Throughout this movie, many fictional musicians and
Speaker 3: bands are seen in the form of posters. So I'll
Speaker 3: name a banner musician and you tell me if it's
Speaker 3: seen at some point in the background of Camp Rock,
Speaker 3: or if someone who played on the infamous Warped Tour
Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight, the year this movie was released.
Speaker 3: So essentially real band or fake band is. I think
Speaker 3: what they're saying the first one, and again I always
Speaker 3: say this, we don't know what it's going to be.
Speaker 3: We've never we don't know the answer, we don't have.
Speaker 1: You don't have to convince people about that. By this point,
Speaker 1: people know, they know, they got they know. Okay, here's
Speaker 1: the first.
Speaker 3: One, Opal Fire, Warped Tour. I'm going to agree with you,
Speaker 3: Warped Tour. Never agree with their Camp Rock.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 1: Okay, Jack Number two Horror Pops War Tour.
Speaker 3: Alright, you guys, you get that's that's the point number three,
Speaker 3: Cabin Fever. You had to have thrown that in from
Speaker 3: Camp That has to be a rid or strong reference
Speaker 3: from his movie. I'm gonna say that's that's Camp Rock
Speaker 3: or a fake one.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Cabin Fever? It's so obvious? Really, No,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say warped. It's too obvious.
Speaker 1: Because the movie was subtle rock. Chris Misiala, that's not
Speaker 1: a band name, that's just a dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just like an artist.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that's a I'll say Camp Rock Warped tour.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's Camp Rock. Baby, he's on there. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: all over it. He can't, yes, Chris Mizala, is he
Speaker 1: a posters in the background? Yeah, they're all posters in
Speaker 1: the background. Okay, yeah, how about the ages? These are
Speaker 1: all made up?
Speaker 2: Not a this can be right warped top.
Speaker 1: Okay good.
Speaker 3: I had to ben at that point. And finally, Licky
Speaker 3: Degama Leasy Digama l I c I. So it's probably
Speaker 3: not Licky Leasy Degama in my in my mind, it's
Speaker 3: Licky Licky de Gama, Cambro, Camp Rock Yeah, Camp Rock Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh we got some of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm guessing none of these bands even real
Speaker 3: or fake recorded before.
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety seven when music was made.
Speaker 3: No, thank you again Jensen for jumping in and making
Speaker 3: us feel like we are not hip at all?
Speaker 1: Can we now do?
Speaker 4: Sabrina sees, Yes, I'm gonna do the very few that
Speaker 4: you that we did not already do.
Speaker 2: The first one is, my gosh, she has so much
Speaker 2: time in the morning to get ready and do so
Speaker 2: much crap before she walks out the door where you like,
Speaker 2: I was sleeping till the very last second until I
Speaker 2: absolutely had to get my seventeen minutes in of hair, makeup, outfit,
Speaker 2: food out the door right, Like, my gosh, that was
Speaker 2: like exhausting watching her get ready before she actually went
Speaker 2: to school. Okay. And then the camp director, not the guy,
Speaker 2: the girl, the lady that comes in.
Speaker 3: Is like welcome, Like, oh, that's the one who was
Speaker 3: one of the writers that she played.
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, was she a needed character? This is one
Speaker 2: of the things that started. Sabrina sees of like these
Speaker 2: characters that aren't.
Speaker 3: Really she wrote herself into the part like she wrote
Speaker 3: herself into the movie would be my guests, because she's.
Speaker 2: Not necessarily the camp director.
Speaker 3: She doesn't really do and she was the musical director
Speaker 3: but didn't teach any of the.
Speaker 2: Classing right, So she was like a character that just
Speaker 2: was so and she just kind of popped up here
Speaker 2: and there. It was very strange to me. Yes, I agree,
Speaker 2: And then quickly you know I love a good romantic moment.
Speaker 2: How bad did you feel for Joe and Demi to
Speaker 2: wear these life that are like.
Speaker 1: You're so, I'm so glad I'm drowning in your love?
Speaker 2: Yes, that, and then I will say it we didn't
Speaker 2: really pap on it too much. But why could we
Speaker 2: not get a smooch from Joe?
Speaker 1: And think there should have been a smooch.
Speaker 2: There should have absolutely been a smooch. It didn't have
Speaker 2: to be a crazy.
Speaker 1: I should have kissed with Alison Stoner dancing behind them.
Speaker 2: Yes, the guy in the background and they're smooching. I
Speaker 2: needed a smooch. That that's what killed Mery. No smooch,
Speaker 2: So that those are my Sabrina sees.
Speaker 1: Do you smooch in Cheetah Girls too? No? Don't tell me,
Speaker 1: don't tell me, I want to find out, don't tell me?
Speaker 1: And so now thank you for Sabrina sees.
Speaker 3: We are now going to rate this movie as we
Speaker 3: do one out of ten, one being the worst, ten
Speaker 3: being the best. Are options for the week are one
Speaker 3: out of ten, White Crows one out of ten, Dry spaghetti.
Speaker 5: Noodles one out of ten, Dumb Jonas Brothers one out
Speaker 5: of ten, Poor Chef Moms one out of ten, Caitlin
Speaker 5: Nintendo Beats one out.
Speaker 3: Of ten, flower white Faces, or of course, one out
Speaker 3: of ten. Random side character happy endings? What would you
Speaker 3: like to go with?
Speaker 2: I think I picked last week?
Speaker 3: You you go for it, and you know what I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say, I'm gonna pick. I love random side character
Speaker 3: happy endings, but I think I'm gonna pick dry spaghetti noodles.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was a big guy, did I go?
Speaker 3: I think I went first last time with you Lucky Dog,
Speaker 3: because I gave it a negative number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, negative number. I will go.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you know what I'm gonna say that I was
Speaker 2: really excited to rewatch this movie, and I wish I
Speaker 2: had kind of just lived in the fantasy land that
Speaker 2: I was in before. I know, I just because we're
Speaker 2: really breaking things down, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 2: I wish I had kind of just like I said,
Speaker 2: I questioned myself, have I seen this movie before? I
Speaker 2: love the Jonas brother, I love a lot of the
Speaker 2: actors in it. Su I'm gonna go and drop it
Speaker 2: down to more of a six point five, And I
Speaker 2: think had I not actually rewatched it, I would have
Speaker 2: been like eight point five post to nine. In my brain,
Speaker 2: my memory is an eight point five to nine okay,
Speaker 2: dry spaghetti noodles, But the reality of it is a
Speaker 2: six point five.
Speaker 3: Dry I'm I'm not too far from you, okay, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it a number we've never given before.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give a five point two five what dry
Speaker 3: spaghetti noodles?
Speaker 1: Yes, because it's not quite a five and a half.
Speaker 3: And it's for the same reasons that you said, Demielevado great,
Speaker 3: the Jonahs brother's great, seeing the potential right of the casting.
Speaker 3: I do not blame any of the people in this
Speaker 3: movie for what happened in the movie, and that can happen.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of times when you see the movie
Speaker 3: and you blame it's like, ooh, you made a weird
Speaker 3: choice or you didn't do this or where you were
Speaker 3: bad whatever, It wasn't that at all with the material
Speaker 3: they had. The script was just there's holes in it.
Speaker 1: It was weird.
Speaker 3: There was no resolution for things right, weird montages that
Speaker 3: came out of nowhere. None of it any of the
Speaker 3: cast's fault. So the cast alone gave this a five
Speaker 3: and a half ish M five.
Speaker 1: Point two, five to five point five.
Speaker 2: It does make me really interested in watching the second
Speaker 2: one because by that time, again, like I'm saying, with
Speaker 2: the success with having a voice, and also the channel
Speaker 2: probably figuring out themselves. Oh wait nope, oh no, we shouldn't.
Speaker 2: We probably will for the next one, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. Again, I'm assuming that's what it would be.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited to watch too. This does not defer
Speaker 2: me away from camp.
Speaker 1: No, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2: I and they're all going to be wear the hat
Speaker 2: proudly still yeah, before I give it back to Hope.
Speaker 3: It's also coming right off of high school musical. You know,
Speaker 3: you saw the dance numbers and everything. It was just
Speaker 3: it felt different. And I go back to teen Beach
Speaker 3: movie that made fun of itself for people singing at
Speaker 3: the same time and doing stuff like that. And then
Speaker 3: you got Lemonade Mouth where they're just kind of singing
Speaker 3: as a band.
Speaker 1: It was like this movie didn't know what it was musically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: does that make sense? Totally so. And again you have
Speaker 1: Alison Stoner who isn't dancing. What why? Yeah, so strange
Speaker 1: choices in this one.
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope to god she dances in the
Speaker 2: second one.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how do you know?
Speaker 2: I love her dancing so much that I'm like, I
Speaker 2: need it. I need it.
Speaker 3: I didn't like dancing, and I like watching Alison Stoner dance.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's there's some people that are just they're great at it.
Speaker 3: So anyway, that's our film. That that is camp Rock.
Speaker 3: Everybody this week we are also this is very cool.
Speaker 3: We are very honored to well Megan Martin, who played well,
Speaker 3: let's be honest, the real B word in the movie
Speaker 3: tests in Camp Rock to our Park Copper episode. It
Speaker 3: was such a fun conversation. She is hysterical. She had
Speaker 3: some great insights into the film, but also dropped a
Speaker 3: little bit of knowledge on when we're going to bring
Speaker 3: her back for the second one, which she ended with
Speaker 3: kind of a bombshell.
Speaker 2: And I put her to the test. I asked for
Speaker 2: some some dirt and I needed it. I needed to
Speaker 2: see and she got me this great She was awesome,
Speaker 2: She was amazing.
Speaker 3: She loved doing the film. By the way, you got
Speaker 3: to check out the episode. But until then, why don't
Speaker 3: you listen to a little snippet of what you're gonna hear?
Speaker 1: The shoulder moved from the became a TikTok thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's trending right now. It's trending like bit
Speaker 2: everyone does that.
Speaker 3: And there's a weird rumor everyone thinks I dislocated my
Speaker 3: shoulder making the movie, which is not true.
Speaker 1: I did not dis like game my shoulder.
Speaker 3: I just was a fifteen year old with a weird,
Speaker 3: bony body.
Speaker 2: So it just looks odd.
Speaker 3: I look like I hurt myself by my ligaments are
Speaker 3: just that of a fourteen year old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like someone whose body is not developed.
Speaker 1: So fine. She was so much fun.
Speaker 3: And our next movie is the nineteen ninety six comedy
Speaker 3: that she ends I don't want to spoil anything, but
Speaker 3: she ends up talking about Yes, our next movie susie Q,
Speaker 3: a movie that first aired in Germany and then went
Speaker 3: to the Disney channel. So no matter what the movie's about,
Speaker 3: this is a first for us. And this one's free
Speaker 3: to watch on YouTube. This is not on Disney Plus,
Speaker 3: this one's on YouTube, so join us for that. You
Speaker 3: really have no excuse even if you're in Germany, because
Speaker 3: we're in Germany. I know my cousins live in Germany
Speaker 3: and they listen to us, so we're there too, so
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter where we are. Come and join us.
Speaker 3: And thank you so much for joining us for Camp
Speaker 3: Rock Camp Rock two. Looking forward to it, but remember
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Speaker 1: Bye everybody, Hey,