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Speaker 4: on a Monday to do the winners and losers of

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Speaker 4: the NBA weekend. We jump right into the winners because

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Speaker 4: to pick everything from Sunday's Kings buckscheme as a winner

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Speaker 4: of the weekend, especially Damian Lillard doing a little Dame

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Speaker 4: were up what four late and overtime, and then Brook

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Speaker 5: the Dame time Sally afterwards, he's like, my teammates have

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Speaker 5: you mentioned the Kings were up by four with thirty

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Speaker 5: And then, yeah, you're right, maybe they should let Giannis

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Speaker 2: Like darko? God?

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Speaker 4: Is that the that's what the going rate is for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. I thought we were going to get

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Speaker 4: two thousandth five hundredth three pointer of his career. What

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Bingo, James hardness and forty five three pointers made.

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Speaker 5: thing that happened for the Jazz is that Lowry Marketing

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Speaker 4: Jazz twenty one and twenty. They're in the ninth spot

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Speaker 5: Dwayne Wade gets a winner of the weekend. He was

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Speaker 5: Wade will be getting an eight foot tall bronze statue

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Speaker 5: statues as well. As long as it's not the Christiano Ronaldo. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But I love seeing Wade. He was crying.

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Speaker 5: He seemed legitimately surprised that this was the case. He

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Speaker 2: That's really really cool.

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Speaker 5: I also saw after the game the Heat got the

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Speaker 2: Looks like a great knight.

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Speaker 5: Looks like a great night for Miami, and Miami had

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Speaker 5: a really solid weekend as well, couple of wins. On Friday,

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Speaker 3: That's Nicks for me. I think they have a legitimate

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Speaker 3: and that's tough, because, yeah, the Magic have dropped down

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Speaker 4: Nicks is a good pick and I'm high on them

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Speaker 4: I think the opposite. I'm like, oh, that's gonna make

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Speaker 2: I think he's maybe back tonight, is he? I think

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Speaker 4: And that's just pretty incredible, Like this is their that's

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Nick or He'll be a nice little battle.

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Speaker 4: they did last year. That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: He does, he doesn't produce or saying he just I know, but.

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Speaker 3: He gets it. He just gets it. No matter what.

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Speaker 3: He's got the Miami heat, he's he's got the invite,

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Speaker 4: Let's do another round of winners task, go back to

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Speaker 3: in the trade that is guaranteed next season. So they're

432
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 3: pulling the plug. They're saying, my right, we're not we're

433
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 3: not we're not paying anymore after that three year contract

434
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,879
Speaker 3: they gave Marvin Begley, which obviously hasn't worked out, and

435
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,680
Speaker 3: they didn't want to pay Isaiah Livers, who's you know,

436
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 3: struggled shooting this season, and so they said, all right,

437
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,159
Speaker 3: but I don't think they're done. We got three and

438
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 3: a half weeks left to the trade deadline. They've got

439
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 3: Boyan Bagnanovich. Uh So if a team wants a guy

440
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,640
Speaker 3: who can shoot, he's available. I'm sure, Danilo Gallinari, I'm

441
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 3: sure as well, just to plug onto a on the bench,

442
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 3: or if you want to moose Mike Muscalo as well.

443
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 3: But anyways, Uh, there's that. And then the Wizards they

444
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 3: get Bagley. They're gonna try him out. He's not been

445
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 3: amazing this season, he's been okay.

446
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:19,719
Speaker 5: Uh.

447
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 3: And then they're gonna try out Isaiah Livers, who is

448
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 3: you know, a winging sort of defender. He's shot okay

449
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 3: in the past, but not this year. And he's played

450
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 3: with Jordan Poole before at Michigan, so maybe, you know,

451
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 3: maybe they're copying the Jalen Brunson. Yeah, that's right, they're

452
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 3: copying what the Knicks did with Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart.

453
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 3: Let's get some guys together. Maybe, maybe, maybe, if anybody

454
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 3: can pull move or pull pool back into the pool

455
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 3: just to get things right, maybe maybe it's Isaiah Livers.

456
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: And they got two second round picks for Gallinari and

457
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 3: Muscala who they got when they dealt Porzingis. So it's

458
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 3: a win. I think for the Wizards to just try

459
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,479
Speaker 3: something out with Bagley and friends. But anyways, it's it's

460
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 3: it's minor. The Piston ain't done. I don't think they're done.

461
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 3: And they have again, they have a lot of money.

462
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 3: Does anybody want to play?

463
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 4: Well, that's the question. Yeah, they open up all this

464
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 4: cap space for who.

465
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: Well yeah, like we saw last season, we saw what

466
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 3: happened with Fred van Vleet. The Houston Rockets had free

467
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: cap space. They wouldn't pay the man a lot and

468
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks, Yeah, they paid a lot. So I think

469
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 3: there are chances now the free agency crop is okay,

470
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 3: Pascal Siakam is currently available. He would be phenomenal on

471
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 3: any team. If the Pistons want to offer the max

472
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: who knows, who knows? But yeah, from there, yeah, you

473
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 3: want to pay Toby Tobias Harris is potential.

474
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 2: He might be available.

475
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

476
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love this trade going down over the weekend

477
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 4: because we were like talking about it and slack Okay, hey,

478
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 4: we'll just slott it into winners and losers of the

479
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 4: NBA weekend and I was fascinated to see if it

480
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 4: was going to be a winner, which task ultimately went with,

481
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 4: or a loser, because you can also turn around, especially

482
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 4: the Piston side of things go. They dealt two second

483
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 4: round picks and Trey Lyles, who's actually like a contributing

484
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 4: basketball player, four Bagley at the deadline what a year

485
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 4: or two years ago, and then they gave them that

486
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 4: three year, like thirty eight million dollars deal when it

487
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 4: felt like nobody else was offering any sort of money

488
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 4: like that, No Bagley, so they sort of you know,

489
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 4: bet against themselves, and then Trey Weaver turns around and

490
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 4: trades Bagley, gets out of the final year of his contract,

491
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 4: but has to attach two more second round picks. I mean,

492
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 4: just brutal move I think overall when you zoom out,

493
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 4: But yeah, they shed a little more money. They have

494
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 4: more money to throw around to maybe someone and whether

495
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 4: that'll be the right decision, we'll see, like throwing max

496
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,959
Speaker 4: money or near max money at like Tobias Harris siaawk,

497
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 4: I'm a little different, still older though. That's probably what

498
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 4: they're gonna do, probably what they have to do when

499
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 4: you win three games like they're on pace to win

500
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 4: six games this year.

501
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I call it a winner because the Marvin Begley

502
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 3: contract did not work, So they're pulling the plug on that.

503
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 3: At least they said, hey, we screwed up. And also

504
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 3: it sure feels like they're not going to pay James

505
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: Wiseman at all.

506
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they traded Sadik Bay for that.

507
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they messed up there. Yeah, so I think they

508
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 3: look back at the last few years and say, all right,

509
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 3: we gotta clean this.

510
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 4: Their next move should be for Troy Weaver not to

511
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: be GM. That seems like their next move should be.

512
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: Their next move probably won't be because he does not

513
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 4: have a good track record right now in the last

514
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 4: couple of years.

515
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 2: No, he's done bad.

516
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 4: He's had a bad job.

517
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 5: He traded one center here for two more centers. I

518
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 5: love it. I love it.

519
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: Just keep bringing in centers. I'm with you, Skates.

520
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 5: I think there's no reason the Piston should be trading

521
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 5: picks of any sort right now. They're obviously going to

522
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 5: try and pull the rockets over the summer sign some

523
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 5: high character veterans, probably over pay him. They're going to

524
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 5: be used a lot as leverage, absolutely over the summer.

525
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 5: But yeah, this is these are some guys that you've

526
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 5: heard of. They got traded for each other.

527
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they might try and you know, I guess

528
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 4: get back some more draft capital, be it secon round

529
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 4: picks or stuff like that. Like you said, Gallinari, Bogdanovic,

530
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 4: you know, Joe Harris, maybe Alec Burks maybe you know,

531
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: these are guys that maybe teams talk themselves into throwing

532
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 4: a you know, a second round pick or two at

533
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 4: to try and acquire at the deadline.

534
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 3: Here.

535
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 4: I could see that, so maybe they you know, gets

536
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 4: a little bit more in the in the cupboards there.

537
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, overall, Troy Weaver, I don't know what he's doing.

538
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 4: It's it's it's bad. It's really bad, like when you

539
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 4: go look through the move so that he's done recently.

540
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 4: But we got a deal, we got a trade.

541
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, interesting, the Pistons are trying to

542
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 5: get some shooting here. And then I went and looked

543
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 5: in Danilo Gallinari shooting thirty one percent from three and

544
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 5: that's much better than Muscala who's at twenty seven percent.

545
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: What happened at these guys?

546
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 5: I know?

547
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you imagine for Hawks, Oh do you imagine being

548
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 4: those guys, like they thought, hey, guys, come here. I

549
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 4: think it happened or I guess that was Detroit telling

550
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: their guys that they were being dealt. But like I

551
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 4: agine telling Gallinari and Muscalo, who're on the Wizards, who

552
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 4: aren't much better than the Pistons, like, hey, guys, guys

553
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 4: have been moved here. Really appreciate you all your support

554
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 4: and your you know, being veterans on this squad. And

555
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: they're like probably in their mind, like yeah, all right,

556
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: where are we going? Where are we getting rerouted to?

557
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 4: You're going to the Pistons. Oh my god, are you

558
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 4: kidding me? You're going from a team that's got seven

559
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 4: wins to a team that's got three wins.

560
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: Oh. I think they both know that they're not gonna

561
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: be there.

562
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 4: From them No, I mean they might be those guys too, Yeah.

563
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely, galling right, can we get a second round pick

564
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: for this guy? They're gonna try Galla? I started all right,

565
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: I saw him hit some shots, but things have gotten old.

566
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 4: Two teams played together today today, Yeah, yeah, the Pistons

567
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 4: and the Wards, but they.

568
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: Are not going through their physicals, so they're not playing

569
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 3: all those okas.

570
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 4: Al Right, well, don't tune into that doesn't feel like Trey.

571
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 4: Who else you got for a winner?

572
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: I got LaMelo ball as a winner. He's back.

573
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 5: Hadn't played since November twenty sixth, basically since Thanksgiving, dealing

574
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 5: with some injuries.

575
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: He came back.

576
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 5: Played a couple of games over the weekend, one against

577
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 5: the Spurs in which the Hornets.

578
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: Got completely destroyed.

579
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 5: He lost by thirty six, but LaMelo went for twenty

580
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 5: eight points, three rebounds, five assists, five steals. Lost again

581
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 5: on Sunday. We talked about it earlier to the Miami Heat.

582
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 5: You're not expecting them. Maybe they should have been at

583
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 5: least close against the Spurs. I mean, thirty six. A

584
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 5: lot of blowouts going on right now. I'm just happy

585
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 5: to see LaMelo is back, and most importantly for him,

586
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 5: he gets to show off his neck tattoo. The NBA

587
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 5: basically reversed their decision they were having him. They said

588
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 5: they had weeks of discussion with LaMelo about covering up

589
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 5: this LF tattoo on his neck. They made him put

590
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 5: a bandage over it. He was playing with like a

591
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 5: big black just piece of tape on his neck through

592
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 5: the first seventeen games that he played this season, but

593
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 5: apparently over his time off they had some more discussions

594
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 5: and now he's allowed to display that LF on his neck,

595
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 5: which is good for him, I suppose, and honestly the

596
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 5: right move from the league. It's the guy's middle name,

597
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 5: it does. It is also the name of his clothing brand.

598
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 5: But I don't think that like people are like, whoa

599
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 5: l UF on Lamolo Ball's neck? I got to go

600
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 5: see what that stands for, and then they go to

601
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 5: see what happened. But he can have his neck out

602
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 5: and he's playing basketball right now. And all I want

603
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 5: is for Lamolo Ball to play more than thirty six games.

604
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 5: That's how many games he played last year. He's only

605
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 5: played seventeen so far this season. I hope he stays

606
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 5: healthy for the second half of the season because it's

607
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 5: at least a highlight festival.

608
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the general rule is don't throw a

609
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: brand name on your body. Okay, that's the rule, that's

610
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: the old rule. But I think they're allowed to modernize

611
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: a little bit. But still I think it's gonna be

612
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: case by case, like you just can't throw a Louis

613
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: Vuitton on your knee because they're advertising for you. You know,

614
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: it's that kind of thing that's happened in the past,

615
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: like people have gone up to Rashid Wallace and said, hey,

616
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: can you advertise skittles on your arm or something. It

617
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 3: was something like that. I'm making that up, but there

618
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: was some candy out there. But it is gonna be

619
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: a case by case thing. I think with LaMelo la

620
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: France is fine. I think that's fine, but it's just

621
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: like we're gonna talk about load management. In the beginning,

622
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: they thought one way and the other. Now they want

623
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 3: to push it the other way. So the same thing

624
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: goes with these rules. It's case by case.

625
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: It's just so silly, like you see Lamello with a

626
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 4: giant black band aid. I remember you had the bright

627
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: blue there for a couple of games too, and you're

628
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: like you're like watching it, going like, what the hell's

629
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 4: under there? And then you're right, try then you're googling, well,

630
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: what's under there? That's got to be something crazy?

631
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: What's worked out? Yeah, exactly.

632
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 4: It's like, actually makes it worse if that was the

633
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 4: whole point, that oh we can't have that brand on there.

634
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: Who cares?

635
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 4: It's good he's back. I'm with you. Hopefully plays, not

636
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 4: that it's resulted in any sort of more wins here.

637
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 4: We still, we incredibly still have a bit of a

638
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 4: race in the nut dust bowl here between the no Dunkskys,

639
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: between my Wizards, between Trey's Hornets, and between Tass's Pistons,

640
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: who are obviously coming up in the rear here. But

641
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 4: still one week, you know, one good week for Detroit,

642
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: two wins in a week, and we got a hell

643
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: of a race. Give us a two win month Detroit, Yeah,

644
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 4: that would be amazing.

645
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: Maybe back in the race easily.

646
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's not over. It's not over your team

647
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 4: having three wins.

648
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: That's right. Wow, Yeah, because they've had a lot of

649
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: close losses like the one this weekend to the Rockets.

650
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: They went to the won that game. Yeah, oh yeah, god, yeah,

651
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 3: they've they've done some good things that in losses.

652
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 4: Final winner of the Weekend to NBA All Star Weekend content,

653
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: Here's what I mean by that. Uh Sham's over the

654
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 4: weekend told us that the NBA is finalizing plans for

655
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: the Clippers to host the twenty twenty six All Star

656
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 4: Weekend at Steve Balmer's New Into It Dome. That's the

657
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: one with all the shitters everyone, so you won't be

658
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: standing in line at All Star weekend and you gotta

659
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 4: take a dump. There's a million toilets in this place.

660
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: So now we have obviously Indie and the Pacers for

661
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four coming up here soon, San Francisco and

662
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 4: the Warriors for twenty five, and then it sounds like

663
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: it's going to be La and the Clippers on track

664
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 4: for twenty twenty six. So after all of these like

665
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 4: cold weather spots that we've had the last couple of

666
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: All Star weekends, we're gonna have two really there back

667
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: to back in twenty five and twenty six in San

668
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 4: Francisco in LA. Not a surprise. You build a new stadium,

669
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 4: you'll generally get an All stoke exactly right.

670
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm excited.

671
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 5: Short flight to Hawaii from both San Francisco and LA,

672
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 5: just saying just saying, you know, post game and I

673
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 5: don't know about you skeets, but when I travel, I

674
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 5: have a hard time doing a number two, Okay, but

675
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make sure it happens at All Star twenty twice.

676
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm locking it in, like yeah, I joked on

677
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: Twitter that we could have a challenge where we try

678
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: and go to every toilet in the arena.

679
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: Not maybe actually go, but while being filmed, maybe go

680
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: look at it.

681
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, like count them, we should count them.

682
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: Bring cameras in there, gonna.

683
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: Well, I assume there are individual stalls, so you can

684
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 4: go by yourself.

685
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 5: Hope.

686
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: So that's true. Mentioned no Stallslet we.

687
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: Have two thousand crappers in this dome, but we forgotten

688
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 4: to build the walls.

689
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: Between the walls.

690
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: Just one big room. It's like that weird room when

691
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 4: you would go to the cabin or cottage, that attic

692
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: room where there's twenty beds and they're all in one room.

693
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 4: That's what we did at the end of it though,

694
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: just all shitters, uh. In other All Star weekend news,

695
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: this is sort of fun. The Indianapolis Airport they installed

696
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: a full court basketball court in there airport to celebrate

697
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: obviously All Star weekend, which is again a couple of

698
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: weeks here. What do we think of this? And I

699
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 4: know some people very pissed off. Your you can't play

700
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 4: on it, like there's no obviously there's no there's not

701
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: a rack of balls that people going through the airport

702
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: can just like shoot around and stuff. Like that. I know,

703
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 4: I think they would tell you to stop. I think

704
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: they would tell you to stop, but get exactly you

705
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: absolutely would. Now. A lot of I mean a lot

706
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 4: of jokes about this. I saw Sean You on Twitter saying,

707
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: imagine imagining the world where group one plays group five

708
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: to twenty one to see who boards first. Okay, I

709
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: love that. I saw somebody else right before a flight,

710
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 4: you can challenge a first class passenger for their eat.

711
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: Fantastic idea. Also a lot of people say, imagine getting

712
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 4: on a plane just drenched with a bunch of people

713
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 4: who have been running it back for hours, but pretty

714
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 4: cool looking, and uh, they're just keep it there all

715
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: the time around it looks to me, I mean it's

716
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: just a picture, but from the picture, it looks like

717
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: people aren't sure if they know that they're allowed to walk. Yeah, yeah,

718
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 4: I think you're right.

719
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: Can I cross this?

720
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: I mean you see they have like the little ropes

721
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 4: or whatever like around the basket. I guess they just

722
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: don't want you to climb it.

723
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, yeah, the rope, Yeah, it's blocked just

724
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: at the stanchion, so it feels like you can just

725
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: shoot it up if you want.

726
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: So why not, so bring your own ball byob Yeah,

727
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: to the indian Airport.

728
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they're gonna start selling balls right there.

729
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: I mean i'd be that place there that sells food

730
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: I or rather sell balls. I think they're going to

731
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: make more money there. I just saw that place. I

732
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: don't want to eat there. I want to buy a

733
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: ball from there, though.

734
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to bring a ball. And we're going

735
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: to All Star Weekend in Indianapolis, and we have more details,

736
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 4: but there will be a live show. We're ninety nine

737
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: percent sure there will on Friday night. We will have

738
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: details to come, but if you are going to be

739
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: in the area or planning to go for All Star Weekend,

740
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Speaker 4: you keep that Friday night open for a little No

741
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 4: Dunks live show in Indianapolis. Can't wait. All right, let's

742
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: take a break and when we come back NBA Weekend losers.

743
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: All right to everybody joining us live right now on YouTube,

744
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: take a second hit that like button and just make

745
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 4: sure you have subscribed to No Dunks. As we get

746
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: closer and closer to one hundred thousand subs, we're very

747
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: close to ninety five thousand, so we're getting there. We

748
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 4: might do this before All Star weekend, so thank you

749
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 4: for playing your part. Okay, let's get to NBA weekend losers, Trey,

750
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: you get it started here. Who's your big loser from

751
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: the weekend.

752
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 5: I have the Memphis Grizzlies as winners of the weekend

753
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 5: last weekend. Oh now they're losers of the weekend because

754
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 5: since then we found out John Moran is going to

755
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 5: be out for the season with shoulder surgery, Marcus Smart

756
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 5: is out at least six weeks with a dislocated finger,

757
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: and then on Friday, Desmond Bain rolled his ankle against

758
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: the Clippers, stepped on Kawhi Leonard's foot. The team is

759
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 5: announced that he's going to be out for at least

760
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 5: six weeks. And let's just throw Jake Laravia in there

761
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 5: because he rolled his ankle too. He's out for three

762
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 5: weeks as well. Reserve wing there for the Grizzlies. It

763
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 5: is going to be a long month for Grizzlies fans

764
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 5: if Bain and Smart are out for six weeks. They

765
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: played against the Knicks on Saturday, started Xavier Tillman, Vince Williams,

766
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 5: David Roddy, Luke Canard and Jacob Gilliard. In related story,

767
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 5: they did not beat the New York Knicks with that

768
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 5: starting lineup. This is a bomber though, Like everybody is

769
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 5: getting hurt for the Grizzlies with significant injuries right, Like

770
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 5: none of these have been one or two weeks where

771
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 5: they're coming back quickly or maybe even surprising us with

772
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 5: how quickly they're coming back.

773
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: Steven Adams out for the season.

774
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 5: Brandon Clark they might as well just keep him out

775
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 5: for the season at this point then, obviously the ones

776
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 5: that have happened this year, and that's a bomber because

777
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 5: Bain has been having a pretty solid season twenty five points,

778
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 5: five rebounds, five assists per game, four forty seven thirty

779
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 5: eight and eighty six shooting splits. He's had a lot

780
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 5: more responsibility this year, with John only being able to

781
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: play a handful of games, with Smart struggling up until

782
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 5: basically he went out with an injury, Bain has been

783
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 5: the go to guy. He's been a little over taxed,

784
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 5: but he's been pretty solid. And now it's just six

785
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 5: more weeks without him. They're going to be tough to

786
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 5: watch and they are going to have a long month.

787
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 5: But at least they'll get a good draft pick and

788
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 5: maybe they'll hit the lottery.

789
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: Who knows.

790
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, stinks. Maybe they got to build a new stadium.

791
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: Like Steve Balmer, that's the only thing that's winning. I

792
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: see here the sneaky Clippers thing that they did there.

793
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: Gave Kawhi the extension. Then they started selling season seats

794
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: immediately the day after then they announced the All Star Game.

795
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: There's a reason for that because obviously they didn't want

796
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 3: fans going into this offseason saying we lost in the

797
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: first round. What we're not gonna buy season seats. But

798
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: now Kawhi is there, now the All Star games there,

799
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 3: things have changed. Unfortunately for the Grizzlies. Yeah, it is

800
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: time to just get bad. That's it.

801
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 4: They necessarily, unfortunately, they picked the wrong year to try

802
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: and be really bad when we have four or five

803
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 4: other teams that can barely win ten games.

804
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: But you never know, you.

805
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: Balls bouncing.

806
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: They've got Derek Crows on their team. That's what the

807
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 3: hud Bowls got number one pick.

808
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: You know, that's true. Great point.

809
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 4: It does feel like John Taffer walked into Memphis and

810
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 4: just said, shut it down. Shut it down, because everybody

811
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 4: is injured and you know, Desmond Bane. I feel bad

812
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: for him because he was gonna be the classic. When

813
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: we were making All Star picks. He was gonna get

814
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 4: some honorable mentions. It was gonna be like, hey, look

815
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 4: at the numbers this guy's putting up. He's playing really,

816
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 4: really well, but you're not gonna make it because the

817
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 4: team stinks and there's so many good guards in the

818
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 4: West and all that. He was gonna get some nice

819
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: what about this guy mentions? But you know now he

820
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 4: won't even get that because you'll be injured as the

821
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: All Star Game is being selected and being underway. So

822
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: rough rough year from the Grizzlies, I think we can

823
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: pivot from them. Tasks. Who do you have for a loser?

824
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: Well, I have another team that should be pulling the plug, essentially,

825
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Hawks, because I feel like it's over in

826
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 3: terms of the construction of this team working. It just

827
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like it at all. I'm not going quite Pistons,

828
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: but yeah, we watched them this past weekend. They got

829
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: trucked essentially in two games. We've all been bamboozled. We

830
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 3: all thought it was gonna work with Trey Young, Desjontay Murray,

831
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 3: and DeAndrea Hunter, and then Jalen Johnson and then Clinton Capella.

832
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: It has not. The Hawks were pounded one twenty six,

833
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: one eight by a Tyrese Halbert and Les Pacers team

834
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: on Friday. That they got trucked. Indiana scored twenty eight

835
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: points in the paint in the first quarter on Friday.

836
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: How does that happen? Fourteen baskets in the paint because

837
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: you're not playing defense at all. And then Washington on

838
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: Sunday or on Saturday, excuse me, in the back to back.

839
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: This is Washington. This is not a good team. This

840
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: is a team that's at the bottom, that has a

841
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: far worse record than the Atlanta Hawks, and they just

842
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: strolled into the lane as well. The Wizards won by

843
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 3: twenty eight points in the paint, sixty to thirty six. Again,

844
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: they're one of the worst running rebounding teams. In the

845
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: game they got they out rebounded the Hawks, no problem.

846
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: The Hawks had a bad offensive night, something they're actually

847
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 3: good at. They shot thirty four percent from the field.

848
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 3: They didn't score a hundred points first time of the season.

849
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Anyway, Trey Young after the game, noting

850
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: that they need a new roster, and his head coach

851
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: needs one. He said, quote, Quinn is such a cerebral

852
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: coach and cerebral person. He needs time. He needs people

853
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: in there who are going to listen and just give

854
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: the effort that he says. That's essentially saying, I need

855
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: a new shooting guard beside me. Because what Quinn Snyder

856
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: didn't in Utah. If you remember, Donovan Mitchell had like

857
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: a Royce O'Neil beside him. He had like guys who

858
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: were playing defense beside him. And I think de Jantey

859
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: Murray will be traded. I think the guy that's going

860
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: to stay there is Trey Young And essentially they're just

861
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: gonna try to find defenders around. And people might say, wow,

862
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: I know they're eight games under five hundred, but a

863
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: few years ago in twenty twenty one, they were bad.

864
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: You know this slow start. At fourteen twenty they went

865
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: to the conference finals. Yeah, and then the next year

866
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: seventeen twenty five, they went to the playoffs, and then

867
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: even last year started slow. They ended up taking a

868
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: couple of games from the Celtics in the playoffs. But

869
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: they can't do it forever where they're just bad and

870
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: then they're good to bad. So I do think that

871
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: there's going to be a trade, and it's going to

872
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 3: be de Jontay Murray because I think he's tasty for

873
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 3: other teams because he's got such a long contract, depending

874
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: on the roster, but it's a long contract that's sort

875
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: of cheap for Dejontay Murray. So I threw some in

876
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: the I threw some in the training machine there this weekend.

877
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: I did it. I'm not so confident about them. I

878
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: see Philly well, if they want to do this, possible,

879
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: but I would see the Hawks loving d' Anthony Melty

880
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 3: coming back. Melton could be beside Tree Young. I say

881
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: him first because I think that's the biggest part. It'sd

882
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: Anthony Melton, Robert Comington, maybe a first round pick maybe,

883
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. I could see him going to the

884
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: Knicks for Quentin Grimes because the Hawks have liked him

885
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: in the past. There was a rumor that they're going

886
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: to trade him for Camera Redish and maybe Dante di

887
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: vincenzo first round pick. Now they're not gonna include that.

888
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 3: And then the Lakers man nothing too exciting there. So

889
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: there's just nothing extremely exciting. I think for the Hawks.

890
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: But but but you know, like, what do you toad Jazz?

891
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: And I said, Royce O'Neil beside Donovan Mitchell like that

892
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: kind of guy, and I think Anthony Melton could be

893
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 3: that kind of guy. We're just listen. The offense is great,

894
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: it's phenomenal this year. It's really really good. So they

895
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: just need they need guys who try to quote Trey Young,

896
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: he just needs people who are going to listen and

897
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: just give the effort. So the chemistry is in there,

898
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: and the DeAndre Hunter thing hasn't worked out. It's a

899
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: little Pistons like where they give guys contracts, here you go,

900
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: here you go, and unfortunately they haven't lived up to

901
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: the expectations. So that's why I think it's happening.

902
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, DeAndre Hunter and de Jontay Murray were supposed to

903
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: solve the defensive issues, yeah, on the perimeter, and they haven't.

904
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: I mean, Hunter, you know, he can't play, he's never

905
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 4: healthy and he's not all that good. And then Jontay

906
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 4: Murray was the real one where it's like, yeah, we

907
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 4: all thought it made sense and he's gotten to be

908
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 4: a little bit worse. Obviously, I think part of it

909
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 4: being moved off of the ball a little bit playing

910
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: alongside trade, but defensively too, doesn't look like elite on

911
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: that level. This guy was making like an all defensive

912
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: team in San Antonio and it's not the case here

913
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 4: in Atlanta. So I'm with you. They need to do something.

914
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 4: They need to trade. Everybody should be available to be traded,

915
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: outside of like Jalen Johnson, who looks like he could

916
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: be something, and you know, I guess you decide about

917
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: the Trey Young of it all. Otherwise, everybody should be

918
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: available to be God, I think where they are and

919
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: how they play, it's sort of.

920
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: Sad, Yeah, exactly.

921
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 5: And Tessa's you're saying they're good on offense. I agree,

922
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 5: they're good, but they're not great. They're eighth, like that's fine,

923
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 5: but they're just as close to twentieth as they are

924
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 5: to first. You know, they could be better, And I

925
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 5: kind of think that's the way they should go. As

926
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 5: long as Trey Young is the leader of the team,

927
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 5: they're not going to play defense.

928
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: That's just how it is.

929
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 5: Is. Dante Murray, he was a defense first player. He

930
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 5: comes and he sees the leader getting trucked every time,

931
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 5: not giving an effort. Guess what, I'm not giving an

932
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 5: effort either, Capella. He's like, I can't clean up for

933
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 5: this the entire time. Quinn Snyder Trey Jung, since he

934
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: wants guys who listen and give effort. Trey Jung has

935
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 5: played harder on defense this year, but it's not enough,

936
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 5: And obviously.

937
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: You think they should just lean into like almost the

938
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: Halliburton Pacers sort of idea of like yeah, just go, yeah,

939
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 4: go all offense.

940
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I think it's too hard to build a

941
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: defense around Trey Young's limitations because then eventually you start

942
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 5: playing all these defense first guys who can't do anything

943
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 5: on the offensive end, like a Capella, like John Collins

944
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 5: at the end of his tenure here. A lot of

945
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 5: stuff has changed around Trey Young in Atlanta. That's the

946
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 5: only thing that hasn't changed yet.

947
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: He is not on the block. But it's coming soon. Yeah,

948
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 2: summer probably they'll start talking.

949
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do think they just need guys that

950
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: buy in a little bit more. I mean, they have

951
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: dropped down a little bit offensively, but they were pretty

952
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: good until recently, where they're like top five for a while,

953
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 3: and yeah, they just it's like Steph in Golden State

954
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 3: to try and copy copy what they do there. Steph

955
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: isn't the best defender, but he tries hard enough, and

956
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: Trees picked it up this year. So, but Trey is

957
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: not Steph offensively, No, but they've been They've been like

958
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: ranked like second third for a while, and sometimes I

959
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: understand that it's it's it's not been good enough recently

960
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: in the last few years, so things aren't tasting all

961
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: that good. But I don't know. So is it time

962
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: to give up on Trey? Is the essentially what the

963
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 3: discussion is.

964
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: That'll be the.

965
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 5: Question pretty soon. But I mean, obviously, Trey is an

966
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 5: offensive force. Like the guy's twenty nine points eleven assists

967
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 5: a game. He might be starting the All Star Game

968
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: this year. He can give you a good offense, But

969
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: how many times can you keep trying to have a

970
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 5: good offense and not having it be the best offense

971
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 5: in the league. The levels, there's just levels to it, right,

972
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 5: Like you've seen what the makeover Halliburton has given the Pacers.

973
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 5: Basically right away he came in and they became one

974
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 5: of the best offenses in league history. Trey Young is

975
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 5: in his sixth season at this point and they're good

976
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 5: or fifth season, I think maybe, and they're good, but

977
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 5: they're not great, and they have not been great since

978
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 5: he's been the guy. He shoots forty two percent, he

979
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 5: doesn't shoot fifty percent.

980
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm heading down to the Fortress here later today for

981
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 4: a little Spurs Hawks action, get to see some Wemby

982
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: up close and personal. I believe he's playing. I'm sure

983
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 4: i'll see twenty to twenty two minutes from Wemby. But yeah,

984
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 4: we'll see what type of effort we get from the

985
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 4: Hawks here. Knowing them, they'll they'll win, They'll win by

986
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 4: twenty five. They're a team, they're an infurio. Yeah, but

987
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: they just lost to the Wizards, like you said, and

988
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 4: got cooked by the Pacers without Haliburton. It's very bad

989
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: right now. They're sort of hitting close to rock bottom

990
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: on their season as they start to slide here in

991
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: the standings, and just the vibe around it all, and

992
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 4: obviously the trade rumors and now we're even rightfully so

993
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: discussing hold on, is it Trey Young? They should actually

994
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 4: be looked to me moving here. Thank god for Jalen Johnson. Otherwise,

995
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 4: I mean, he is the on one lone bright spot.

996
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 4: I would say from this Hawk season that he actually

997
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: got an opportunity and he's played really well. Not that

998
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: it's resulting in a ton of wins, but that's you know,

999
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: you're not gonna asking him to sort of carry a

1000
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 4: team at this point yet.

1001
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: But now he looks like a keeper. This team is

1002
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: eight games under five hundred. It's it's it's the bottom

1003
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: right now.

1004
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Uh, loser of the weekend to the Portland Trail Blazers.

1005
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 4: Here's why they lost to the Suns last night one

1006
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 4: twenty seven, one sixteen. Scout had a good game. This

1007
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 4: was one good thing, career high thirty three points. He

1008
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 4: had nine assists. But it was Portland's fourth straight loss.

1009
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 4: They've lost seven of their last eight, eight of their

1010
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: last ten. Now they were really hurt by injuries or illnesses.

1011
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: I should say on Sunday, maybe these guys are just

1012
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 4: sick of playing for their team. But Jeremy Grant, Matisse

1013
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: Thibele late scratches because of illness. So they had eight players.

1014
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: And when I tell you the Blazers have one hell

1015
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: of a who roster going, I am not lying. Usikos

1016
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: might know Dwop Wreath he plays right. He's their starting

1017
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: and he's been okay at times. But you had Chris Murray,

1018
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 4: who is obviously the brother of Keegan Murray. He had

1019
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 4: thirty seven minutes off the bench last night for Portland.

1020
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: And then two guys that I would assume not a

1021
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 4: lot of people know of, Justin Manaya. I'm not even

1022
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: pronouncing his name right, Apologies Manaya. He scored a single

1023
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 4: point in seventeen minutes for the Blazers, Justin Mania. And

1024
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: then they have a French shooting guard named Ryan Rupere.

1025
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: He hit a bunch of threes in the loss. But

1026
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 4: you're you're probably out there going who are you talking about?

1027
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: Dwop Wreath and Ryan Rupeair and Justin Mania, Like these

1028
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 4: are guys that are getting like minutes, like it, really

1029
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 4: opportunities because they're just so depleted and their season has

1030
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: gotten away from them. During their seven game road trip,

1031
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 4: the Blazers lost by at least twenty one points six times.

1032
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 4: These are not even competitive games, they're absolute just shellackings.

1033
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 4: Their lone win came against Brooklyn. It was in overtime,

1034
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: and Billups after the road trip said, just a tough trip,

1035
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 4: but it turned out to be even tougher than I

1036
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 4: thought it would. What man, when your head coach is

1037
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 4: saying that, like, we knew we'd probably go one and six,

1038
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: but wow, I thought we'd at least have some more

1039
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: competitive games. We lost everything by about twenty plus. But

1040
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: it's just bad in Portland right now. That's it.

1041
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 5: They've been under one hundred points in five of their

1042
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 5: last seven games, right, that's hard to do.

1043
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 4: It today's game. Yeah, yeah, good point. So anyway, keep

1044
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 4: your eye on Ryan Rupaer and Justin Manaia and Dwappreth,

1045
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 4: who has one of the best names in the league.

1046
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 4: I'll give them that great name.

1047
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: But it's rough.

1048
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 4: These guys aren't playing in it. And you said about

1049
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 4: the Pistons and some of their moves, they might make

1050
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: the deadline here. Same thing could be said for the Blazers,

1051
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 4: of course, outside a few of their guys that are untouchable.

1052
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, are they really?

1053
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 4: They move in Brogden or they move in time Lord,

1054
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 4: and they move in Grant is the big one.

1055
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: I guess JN. Draiden, I mean they just is It

1056
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: is odd because they just went for it with all

1057
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 3: those vets. That's a lot of vets. With with Brogden,

1058
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: Robert Williams, John Drayton, So they kind of went they

1059
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 3: they thought they could balance both. Yeah, and if if

1060
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: you want to get something for Broadden, who's getting getting

1061
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: up there in age, it's probably time, uh quick, other.

1062
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 4: Little round here, anyone else for a loser of the weekend.

1063
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 5: I got a big loser of the weekend, and it's

1064
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 5: the Bulls fans who booed Jerry Krause at their Ring

1065
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 5: of Honor ceremony. Embarrassing for all Bulls fans. Class lists

1066
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 5: from the people who did.

1067
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: Uh.

1068
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 5: There's lots of history that goes into why Jerry Krouse

1069
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 5: would be booed. Kelly Dwyer had a great ride up

1070
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 5: on his sub stack the second arrangement, John Greenberg had

1071
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 5: a great one for the athletic. These are guys who

1072
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 5: like lived through the dynasty and they know that Jerry

1073
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 5: Krause has been getting booed since before the Bulls were

1074
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 5: winning championships, so it could have been expected that it

1075
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 5: was going to happen, which means to me the Bulls

1076
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 5: should have done something to kind of like do their

1077
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 5: best to make sure that it didn't happen. Because it's

1078
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 5: a terrible look and embarrassing for the franchise to.

1079
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: Be booing a dead man.

1080
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 5: And then they cut to his They cut to his

1081
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 5: widow sitting there in tears, you know. Shout out to

1082
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 5: Ron Harper came and comforted her right away as it

1083
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 5: was happening. Shout out to Stacy King. He spoke up

1084
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 5: as they came back to the third quarter, calling out

1085
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 5: the fans who were booing everything else was bad though,

1086
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 5: And I don't know, it's just like I think Adam

1087
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 5: I mean said on the broadcast, like it just leaves

1088
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 5: a pit in your stomach. And for me, that's exactly

1089
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 5: what it was. I was watching it live. I was

1090
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 5: not shocked that Jerry Krouse got booed, absolutely, but that's just.

1091
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: Not the time for it.

1092
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 2: Like, the guy's been dead for years at this point.

1093
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: He is a huge part of Bull's history.

1094
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 5: The way it ended with Jerry Krause and the Bulls

1095
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 5: obviously has colored the way things have gone ever since.

1096
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 5: But this is a time when you can just cheer

1097
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 5: because you're honoring the greats of the franchise for the

1098
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 5: first time, putting them all in the Ring of honor.

1099
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 5: So it's the kind of thing that's gonna stick with

1100
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 5: Bulls fans like it'll get brought up all the time,

1101
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 5: like Eagles fans booing Santa Claus a million years ago.

1102
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: It'll just keep getting brought up.

1103
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 5: The Bulls will do another Ring of Honor in twenty

1104
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 5: twenty six, and that's what people will be talking about.

1105
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: So it was a terrible look and you know, the

1106
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 5: bubbles are taking a lot of hits for it, rightfully.

1107
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, extremely unfortunate. I do appreciate how everybody sitting

1108
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: beside Thelma, Jerry Cross's widow, did go support her, and

1109
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: also Steve Kerr, who was there, you know what the

1110
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: Warriors spoke out about it later on, saying how how

1111
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: bad he felt that they've essentially been booing Jerry Cross

1112
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: for forty years almost since since the mid eighties almost

1113
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 3: and they just keep going and they just don't understand

1114
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: that there's absolutely there's no need for that. Why it's

1115
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: started and why it's become such a habit of these fans.

1116
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: Obviously unfortunate, but it's it's way past. And I'm sure

1117
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: they watched the last dance and saw Jerry Cross in

1118
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: there and how he was made fun of, the jokes there,

1119
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: but really, the man has passed, and yeah, there's absolutely

1120
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: no need for that. It should have just been a

1121
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: celebration moment, and it was a very tough one.

1122
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 4: It's one of these things I saw going around Twitter

1123
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 4: and you're like, you see the headline like, of course

1124
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: the Bulls fans booed Jerry Kraus, and I'm like, okay,

1125
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 4: what's the big deal, And then you see the clip

1126
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh my god, it's worse than I thought.

1127
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 4: Right when you read what it is because of the

1128
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 4: booing him in general is sort of a little weird.

1129
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 4: Like you said, Trey, It's like, okay, maybe just don't

1130
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 4: do anything if you really don't love the guy. Is

1131
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 4: like a ring of honor celebration here with all these

1132
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 4: other Bulls legends, legends. But then to cut to Thelma,

1133
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: who's sitting there visibly upset by it all, was like, oh,

1134
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 4: your heart went out for her. So yeah, and gonna

1135
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 4: be tough to shake this, no doubt. That's one of

1136
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 4: these things that just like sticks to a franchise, sticks

1137
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: to a fan base, right or wrong, it is what

1138
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: it is, and people boot her. There was a lot

1139
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 4: of booze there. I feel I do feel like it

1140
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: was one of those things like, hey, we bow this

1141
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 4: guy all the time. Here we go booze because his picture,

1142
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: his photos up on the jumbletron or whatever. And then

1143
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 4: it did cut to Thelman. I felt like there was

1144
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 4: some like pull back of the booze, but it was

1145
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 4: too it was too late. It was like, uh okay,

1146
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 4: but anyway, moving on from that, that's a loser of

1147
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 4: the weekend, no doubt, final loser the weekend. Interested to

1148
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: hear your take on it, guys, whether or not you

1149
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 4: think it is. The league released a long awaited report

1150
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: on load management this weekend. David Aldridge at The Athletic

1151
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 4: Great article on this chief Among the findings in this

1152
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 4: fifty seven page report was quote resting healthy players for

1153
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 4: a game to help prevent future injuries doesn't make those

1154
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: players less successful, successible. You know what I'm trying to

1155
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 4: say to future injury than players who aren't rested for games.

1156
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: End quote So and hold on scratch that it actually

1157
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 4: says historically, they don't have sound evidence demonstrating that load

1158
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 4: management through reduced game participation reduces injuries. But to be clear,

1159
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 4: they also lack evidence that load management fails to reduce injuries.

1160
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 4: So they just don't have the evidence that it is real.

1161
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 4: But this is a big one to eighty here from

1162
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 4: the league on the idea of load management, which we

1163
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 4: talked about for years, and the Silver was always saying, yeah,

1164
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 4: the teams man, the data backs it up. They've gone

1165
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 4: through this. It actually makes sense to rest these guys

1166
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 4: and back to back situations and three and four nights

1167
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 4: and reduce minutes and all that. And now this this

1168
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 4: report that has like ten years worth of data. They're like, no,

1169
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 4: it actually doesn't show that at all. At least the

1170
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: evidence doesn't show it. What So I mean, I have

1171
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 4: this as a loser of the week kind I really

1172
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 4: just wanted to address it. What do you What do

1173
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 4: you think?

1174
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: What do you make of all this? When Adam Siler

1175
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 3: first talked about it years ago, he basically said, there

1176
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: is evidence if you look at the medical reports, there

1177
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: is evidence that sitting out will help your career in

1178
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 3: the future. So I feel like I have been bamboozled,

1179
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: like unfortunately. Basically, what's happening is the TV deal is

1180
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: beginning in a couple months. The talks between the NBA

1181
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: and everyone begins in March and so I think that's

1182
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: what this is all about. This is all about just

1183
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: trying to get a reputation back of the league that

1184
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 3: guys don't sit for any reason. So that's what this

1185
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: is about, just to be able to sell every single game,

1186
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: to be able to sell eighty two games for as

1187
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: much as possible. But it's I guess there are medical

1188
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: reports in this particular article, and why they've they why

1189
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: they reversed their view about it. I think it's just

1190
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: hard to prove that that it helps people's careers. But

1191
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 3: I think it does, but it's it is just a

1192
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: difficult thing to prove. So really it just feels like

1193
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 3: nothing to read about here. And it's really what it

1194
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: comes down to is they should just be playing fewer

1195
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: games in general so that we don't have to play

1196
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: back to backs or yeah, well give guys rest. I

1197
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: think that's what it comes down to.

1198
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 4: Ten years worth of data says missing games for rest

1199
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 4: or load management does not reduce future injury rates. Schedule density,

1200
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 4: including back to backs, does not impact future injury rates,

1201
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: and playing a high number of minutes or even games

1202
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 4: does not impact future injury rates, which you're right, I

1203
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 4: mean for years silver in the league was saying the opposite.

1204
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 4: They were preaching strong data from NBA teams, you know

1205
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 4: load management, it does help prevent future injuries. But now

1206
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 4: they're saying the opposite that you know this.

1207
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 5: Report, yeah, and they're basically saying, we were just listening

1208
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,959
Speaker 5: into the teams. We had all of our own data.

1209
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 5: We just hadn't really looked into it yet. But I

1210
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 5: don't know, it's just weird. I like the quote that

1211
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 5: says this doesn't prove that load management doesn't work, but

1212
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 5: it really calls into question the conventional wisdom that it does.

1213
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 5: Really makes you think that's exactly what they're doing here.

1214
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 5: They're just trying to muddy the waters, is what it

1215
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 5: seems like to me, Because you're right, task, it's very

1216
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 5: hard to prove whether or not load management does or

1217
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 5: doesn't work to prevent injuries, especially you go and compare

1218
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 5: it to historical data for stars missing games when stars

1219
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 5: played a lot more games back in the nineties. But

1220
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 5: guess what, everybody was skinnier, people weren't playing as hard

1221
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 5: on both ends of the ball in the nineties changed

1222
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 5: over the course of thirty years. The stress on your

1223
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 5: bodies different too, so it's kind of hard to compare

1224
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 5: different generations of players as well.

1225
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: But I think what.

1226
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 5: Happened is the league at the beginning of the season

1227
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 5: said load manage it doesn't work, and everybody's like, wait

1228
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 5: a second, how could you possibly say that after years

1229
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 5: of saying it does work. So they had to come

1230
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 5: out with some kind of a report. It's not an

1231
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 5: independent report. It's somebody that the NBA paid, so of

1232
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 5: course they're coming out on their side. And it's interesting

1233
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 5: as a fan and as a commentator, right because you're like,

1234
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 5: on one hand, it feels like it does work, but

1235
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 5: also you like seeing the players play more often.

1236
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: So what should it be.

1237
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 5: Should we be forcing them to play or should we

1238
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 5: be reinterpreting the data so that they want to play more.

1239
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 5: I don't know, but players are playing more right now.

1240
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 2: That's good. I guess. I like watching basketball players play.

1241
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 4: And I want to make this clear. We say this

1242
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 4: all the time when we talk about load management. This

1243
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 4: usually comes from the team's physicians. They're sports scientists, they're

1244
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 4: front offices. They're the ones usually pushing the load management idea.

1245
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 4: It's it's less from the players. In fact, we get

1246
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: a lot of like like low key griping a lot

1247
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 4: from players like, you know, like how healthy I could play?

1248
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 4: Like they want to play. I think generally most of

1249
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 4: these guys have no issues playing most of the games.

1250
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,479
Speaker 4: It's the teams trying to like prevent future injuries because

1251
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 4: you know, they're so important to their success.

1252
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 3: And all that.

1253
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 4: You understand why, but yeah, all of this under the umbrella.

1254
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,959
Speaker 4: I say, all of this now, this new UH load

1255
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: management report saying hey, it doesn't matter you guys should

1256
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 4: play and it's not gonna have any effect on whether

1257
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: you're injured. Stuff like obviously the end season tournament and

1258
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 4: the play in tournament and the evening of a sort

1259
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 4: of the draft odds, so you don't want to lean

1260
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 4: into tanking. All of this is to like build up

1261
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 4: the regular season that hey, this matters, this is all

1262
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 4: something here, guys, And wow, interesting timing of it all

1263
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 4: when you have a huge negotiations for billions of dollars

1264
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 4: of television money and streaming money.

1265
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they changed it up before this season was when

1266
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: it was when they hey, you got to every single

1267
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 3: game rule came out essentially, but really, when there haven't

1268
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 3: been a ton of sitting out even this season, but

1269
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: when they do sit out, it's because they play back

1270
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: to backs. If they if we just eliminated those, if

1271
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 3: we just made the season two weeks longer, that guys

1272
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to play back to back. Guys say, literally,

1273
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 3: these are incredible athletes that say that flying somewhere and

1274
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: playing the night the day after is just it's just taxing.

1275
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1276
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: Whether or not they get healthy or can stay healthy

1277
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: is different. But they obviously don't feel good, and obviously

1278
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 3: guys are still going to get hurt, so it doesn't

1279
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: really Yeah, that's why it's difficult to prove, because there's

1280
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Speaker 3: always going to be injuries in this sport, regardless of

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Speaker 3: how many how many games are played.

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Speaker 4: But so kill what's happened though, or like the pendulum

1283
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 4: swung so far? One way? It was like, so, what,

1284
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 4: you're tired. You're paid pretty handsomely to be a little

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Speaker 4: tired in the second game of the back to back

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Speaker 4: after your private flight. That's what people were saying. And

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Speaker 4: I think there's some to that, and again, a lot

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Speaker 4: of the players would want to play, but it was

1289
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 4: like what are you doing? Teams like, you know, and

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Speaker 4: then we get in the situation where Obviously Curry's not

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Speaker 4: playing in Cleveland, and this family of four has spent

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Speaker 4: all this money. And here's the other thing. The league

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00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 4: sells this league on players. That's what they do. So

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Speaker 4: then you can't turn around and say, well, well, let's

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00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 4: star players aren't actually playing. Well, that's how you sell

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Speaker 4: this league. That's what they've done for years, and it's worked.

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Speaker 4: It's Curry versus Lebron, it's not usually the Warriors versus

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00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 4: the Lakers, right, So that's where it's like, you can't

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Speaker 4: that's that's tough. That's a tough pill to swallow, I think.

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Speaker 4: And why they're now are pivoting back maybe somewhere to

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00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 4: where yeah, you should want to play and these guys

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Speaker 4: should play.

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00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, it's right before TV deals are negotiated, so

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00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 3: that's why they're doing it. But if back to backs

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00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 3: were safe to play, then why don't we have them

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00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: in the postseason? They don't. They play games every second day,

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Speaker 3: So why don't they just play back to backs in

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00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: the in the playoffs? Just play back to backs on

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00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 3: they played baseball every day in the playoffs. Just do it,

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Speaker 3: you know why, right, Because it's not safe, and because

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Speaker 3: guys they don't want to play it second day. They don't,

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01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: so they just have to get rid of back to

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Speaker 3: backs in the regular season. That's what they do. I

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01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: think that should be the first and foremost thing. But

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Speaker 3: it is making the season longer if you continue to

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01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 3: play eighty two games, and maybe they don't want to

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01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 3: do that because people won't watch as many games in general,

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01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: so maybe that hurts the TV deals. But anyways, I

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01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 3: think what they did this year, as you said, guys

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01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: are playing. The guys are playing games this season. There

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01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: have been some games that are set out but they

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 3: aren't national TV games. Why because they scheduled them like

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01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 3: that to make sure that they weren't part of back

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01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 3: to backs. They did that so we could get a

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Speaker 3: good TV deal.

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Speaker 4: They're saying, be selective when you rest your guys. Yeah,

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01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 4: watch out if it's a nationally televised game, watch out

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Speaker 4: if it's on the road like all this.

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Speaker 3: Yeff, but they know that they're going to sit back

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Speaker 3: to back games, and that's happened. Anthony Davis's set them

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01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: out obviously, Chris Milton system out of times. There's still

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Speaker 3: some guys. But there's a way, there's a way, anyway

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Speaker 3: play every second day.

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Speaker 4: Highly encourage you, if you have an athletic subscription, to

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01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 4: go read all time rich on the report breaking it

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01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 4: all down, got some quotes in there. All right, let's

1337
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 4: get to tweet of the night.

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Speaker 1: Tweet O the Night Wow.

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01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 4: Tweet of the Knight comes from a man name at

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01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 4: Jack M. Sully. I saw this tweet and I said,

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01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 4: that's a good tweet here, Jack, Detroit has been hogging

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01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 4: the spotlight. But the bottom five teams in the league,

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01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 4: the Pistons, Pasta Blazers, the Hornets, the Spurs, and the

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01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 4: Wizards are just as historically bad. We need a good

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01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: nickname for that group. I like that. Jack. You know,

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01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 4: we can like do a crowdsourcing here on a potential

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 4: nickname for these really bad five teams. I very quickly

1348
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 4: this morning came up with some suggestions. I'm not saying

1349
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 4: these are good, but I'll chuck them at you guys.

1350
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 4: Maybe you like one more than the other. Maybe you

1351
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 4: have your own the bad News Ballers. That one won't stick.

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 4: I like this one more, this soggy Bottom Boys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a fan of this team, you

1354
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: are a fan of constant sorrow. Okay, it works.

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01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 4: You know how like in soccer, we get the groups

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01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 4: and everyone goes ooh. When it's really elite, it's like

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01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 4: the group of death. What about just the group of

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01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 4: actual death? That bad the fourteen percent, because that's like

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01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 4: your your best chance at a number one. Pick you Now,

1360
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 4: now that's only the top three. Then it goes down

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 4: a little bit. But anyway, the fourteen percent, maybe something there.

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Speaker 4: And then I wanted something that rhymed a little bit.

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Speaker 4: So how about the deprived five.

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Speaker 3: There's a couple there, there are some work there, yeah, for.

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01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 4: Sure, but we do need something right now. It seems

1366
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 4: like the Soggy Bottom Boys is the clubhouse leader. You've

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01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 4: got the biggest put that news bollowers. Okay, maybe I

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01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 4: went too quickly past that one.

1369
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: In there's a few. I think this is a good

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01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 3: pull for people out there. Oohh yeah, yeah, there's some takers.

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01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: How about the dusters the oh for us, not dusty.

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Speaker 4: Bottom of the beggar.

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01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: At the bottom of the bag. That's not bad either.

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Speaker 4: Front of the bag is pretty good, especially in the

1375
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 4: no dunks world.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy to see. Like the Grizzlies have had a

1377
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Speaker 5: really tough season. They've had so many injuries. They're only

1378
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 5: thirteen and twenty six. They've got a bad point differential

1379
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 5: minus five point three to three, and they are four

1380
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Speaker 5: points better than the Spurs at minus nine, and then

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01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 5: you know minus nine for the Wizards the Blazers, and

1382
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 5: then minus eleven for the Pistons and the Hornets. But

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01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 5: you know, I guess the Pistons are probably happy looking

1384
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 5: at that because they are not last in point differentially.

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Speaker 2: It's the Hornets.

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01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 4: Wow, that's yeah. The Hornets I think have lost sixteen

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01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 4: of their last seventeen. Like, again, what a year for

1388
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 4: you to be shitty because it can just like totally

1389
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 4: go unto the radar thanks to Detroit and their epic

1390
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 4: losing streak. And hell, they only have three wins out

1391
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 4: of thirty nine, Like, I mean, when when will it

1392
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 4: really ramp up that the Pistons might set the all

1393
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 4: time record here? When do you think people start really

1394
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 4: taking notice? Like after the All Star break? Yeah, March

1395
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 4: maybe if they still have four wins, people are gonna

1396
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 4: be like, whoa, it's in play here, because what's the

1397
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 4: worst nine for an eighty two game season? But then

1398
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 4: the boat.

1399
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Speaker 2: Sixty six game season?

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Speaker 5: Is that right? That's right?

1401
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: Is that right. I don't know.

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 5: They're on a seven game losing streak right now, after

1403
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 5: snapping the streak against the Raptors and then hopping right

1404
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 5: back on another one. I wonder if they get to

1405
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 5: a second ten game losing streak, like back to back,

1406
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 5: if that starts putting even more eyeballs on the Pistons,

1407
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 5: we'll see. I think got the Wizards tonight.

1408
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: That's a big game. It's a huge, big game in

1409
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: the dust Bowl.

1410
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 4: Oh, it's a massive, huge yeah.

1411
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. And Monty Williams this weekend said I should be

1412
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 3: questioned because I haven't played Jane and Ivy enough. And uh,

1413
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna play j and Ivy. He's gonna beat the

1414
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: Wizard's fair.

1415
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like you're winning games and he's buried

1416
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 4: on the bench. Yeah, you may want to play them,

1417
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 4: may want to give to go crazy. All right, let's

1418
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 4: call it there, guys here on a Monday, winners and

1419
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 4: losers of the NBA weekend. I'm sure we miss some.

1420
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 4: You tell us let us know in the YouTube comments.

1421
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 4: You can tweet at us at no Dunk Sync. Lots

1422
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 4: of games on today. I think they start at one o'clock.

1423
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 4: I want to say, the MLK Day action starts and

1424
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 4: then there's like you know, two o'clock, three point thirty

1425
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 4: all throughout the day, some games on TNT. So enjoy

1426
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 4: the basketball and we'll be back here tomorrow to talk

1427
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 4: about as much of it as possible ten am Eastern.

1428
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 4: Until then, Clipper Brose.

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Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1430
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome, Thanks for joining us, and remember,

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Speaker 3: Happy Mlkday.

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Speaker 4: Brace to day people.