WEBVTT - Rebuilding The Black Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, I'm to meet a D. Mallory and it's

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<v Speaker 1>your boy, my son in general. And we are the

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<v Speaker 1>host of street politicians, the place the streets and Politics meets.

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<v Speaker 1>You are hilarious sometimes not all the time, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>finally a little bit to that. Listen. I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to have a good time. It's June teeth. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're celebrating being black, you know, and loving to be

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<v Speaker 1>being semi free, semi semi semi free. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>moving in the process, and you know, we're moving on

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<v Speaker 1>the trajectory of freedom. So I'm just celebrating my blackness

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<v Speaker 1>and my trajectory to freedom. Yeah. You know what's It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a time that I can feel in my bones

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<v Speaker 1>something can happen, something great can happen. How we get

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<v Speaker 1>there is gonna take us to even grow in our

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<v Speaker 1>own leadership. And that's and that's what's in front of

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<v Speaker 1>us that even we the evolutionary that's right, even we

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<v Speaker 1>have to grow. Um. You know, we talked last week

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<v Speaker 1>about this idea that people will say, Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>hear y'all talking. I don't hear you saying it's not

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<v Speaker 1>always time to talk. Sometimes you have to sit back

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<v Speaker 1>and really strategize. And I've done this many times where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't see me as much in the

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<v Speaker 1>public sphere, um, where you know, of course you see

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<v Speaker 1>me with a state of emergency, but on other things,

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of putting pieces of a plan number one,

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<v Speaker 1>the number one, but you know, we're putting pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>a plan together. UM. And I what I what I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate about this moment that we're in. It's so powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like pregnant with opportunity. You've got all the things,

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<v Speaker 1>you have administration in place that knows they cannot become

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<v Speaker 1>president again without us, so we can really kick them

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<v Speaker 1>into gear, if you will, If we come together right,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have, um, young people that are bold, courageous, intelligent, amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>creative all over the country. They are doing great work.

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<v Speaker 1>You also have change. You have some painful change. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think with those shifts, with some of these difficult

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<v Speaker 1>conversations that we're having in the movement, it's important and

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<v Speaker 1>they had to happen. This is not new, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>we have to have those like a birthing process of

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<v Speaker 1>a new thing. Um. And And even though it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a passing of the baton, but they always are sort

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<v Speaker 1>of innovative moments, and so it's a good place to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But in order to really kick us to the next spot,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to be extremely strategic about and so um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to learn. And it's like we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to and the book is is that a state of

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<v Speaker 1>emergency is that you've got to educate people um on

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<v Speaker 1>where we've been. Then you've got to bring them up

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<v Speaker 1>to speed on a strategic plan and then execute. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a little bit of time to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do all those things. And then of course in

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<v Speaker 1>the city we live in New York City, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to educate people on ranked choice voting, bring them up

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<v Speaker 1>to speed um in terms of the strategic process, and

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<v Speaker 1>then executed during an election. It's a lot to do,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot to do. It's a lot to do, man,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and the guns is going crazy in the streets,

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<v Speaker 1>were being gunnsce a wearness months and they're just out here,

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<v Speaker 1>these young boys just out here shooting each other. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've really been, like you said, been just being

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<v Speaker 1>quiet and solid because I'm tired of saying, let's stop shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really realized that we have to do something

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than that, you know, shoutouts to New Pole. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>She organized a couple of weeks back, organized a peace

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<v Speaker 1>treaty with some of some blood and crypt gang in

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<v Speaker 1>and Um Brooklyn that she asked me to help her facilitate,

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<v Speaker 1>along with my brother A. T. Mitchell. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really you know, enlightening. I sat in

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<v Speaker 1>the room with these young brothers and just listening to

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<v Speaker 1>their mind states. And then there's some young brilliant brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're just they're according to gang culture and

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them are are believe in myths,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they're seeing people as quote unquote opts

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<v Speaker 1>that are not and and the rules of engagement are

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<v Speaker 1>so off man. So I realized that there has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a restructuring of mind states. There has to be

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<v Speaker 1>a reconstructing of what manhood looks like and what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>realness and this quote unquote vision of quote unquote gangster

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<v Speaker 1>looks like. You know. So I've been That's what I've

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<v Speaker 1>been contemplating lately, just sitting back, being silent, saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's something I need to be doing right

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<v Speaker 1>now and just asking for clarity, just to deform relate

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<v Speaker 1>what that looks like. So you know, we're all on

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<v Speaker 1>our missions. Man. We've got a great show coming up today,

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<v Speaker 1>UM a lot of information that we're gonna pack into

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<v Speaker 1>uh the entire show. In fact, we won't have two

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<v Speaker 1>guests because this one guest is about five guests and

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<v Speaker 1>one person. His name is Leo Alexander. He lives in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an entrepreneur, a businessman. UM he is some

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<v Speaker 1>people call him a patent master, where he has the

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<v Speaker 1>patent for so many different um innovative, innovative ideas. He

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<v Speaker 1>has the patent for so many different inventions, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of technology. Also did great work during covid um the

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<v Speaker 1>height of covid to get masked out, making masks and

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<v Speaker 1>getting them distributed to communities. A black man again in Tulsa, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 1>who believes that Tulsa should be everywhere, that Black Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street should be everywhere, and so he's gonna be coming

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<v Speaker 1>on now. Before we do that, we're gonna go to

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<v Speaker 1>our resident red expert, LaToya Bond. Thank you, Jamica and

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<v Speaker 1>my son, and welcome to the brand market I'm LaToya Bond,

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<v Speaker 1>your resident brand whisperer. Today we have a special brand

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<v Speaker 1>and as you know, Tamika de Mallory is also the

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<v Speaker 1>one of the co founders of Until Freedom. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways that you guys can support the work

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<v Speaker 1>that they do is by purchasing merchandise. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say the merchandise is pretty fly, it's great quality,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's unisex. It works your men and women. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna toss back to Tamica and my son so they

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you all about Until Freedom and how you

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<v Speaker 1>can support their movement. For us, freedom is when people

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<v Speaker 1>like us, freedom fighters protesters are no longer needed on

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<v Speaker 1>the front lines every day. UM, the way that we

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<v Speaker 1>are now, freedom would quit organizations like ours out of business.

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<v Speaker 1>It would mean that men and women and children and

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<v Speaker 1>our siblings wouldn't be being killed, shot down and dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with so many of the ills that are oppressing black,

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<v Speaker 1>brown and disenfranchise folks across this country and across the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, UM, people think that freedom is not possible,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not attainable, But we believe that there is a

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<v Speaker 1>beloved community and that when we get to that place,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be true freedom to make a speech. Although

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<v Speaker 1>it was amazing, it wasn't the one. No, it's not that.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the ones. And I heard the speech the

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<v Speaker 1>next day that to me was even more moving. I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard the speech three years ago that was more moving.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad the world, you know, finally heard, recognized. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what we've all known for this time when you

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<v Speaker 1>know what she always tries to fight that. She's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much our leader. But the reality of situation is, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't move in fere you know, we we understand, we

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<v Speaker 1>understand what comes with this work. You know, like marcol

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<v Speaker 1>Mix said, if you're not willing to die for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you gotta take the world freedom out of your mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And each one of us here, which has

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<v Speaker 1>made a commitment to this life, we've made a commitment

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<v Speaker 1>to our people. We have made a commitment to the

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<v Speaker 1>betterment of our communities. I look at my son that

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<v Speaker 1>he did and said, this world just has to be

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<v Speaker 1>better for him. That's when it was for me. So

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<v Speaker 1>of course we are concerned, we pay attention, we're conscious,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't move in here. And you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>I know where my heart is. I know that God

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<v Speaker 1>got us. I know that we're here for the purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that we're living out our purpose. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that exactly what I said before, I was put here

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<v Speaker 1>for this exact moment. So whatever comes with that, if

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<v Speaker 1>my life is, you know, however long I live, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna live in in authenticity. I'm wanna live in fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for my people. I'm gonna living to justice. Visit until

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<v Speaker 1>freedom dot com for more information. I fight until Freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to mek In, my son. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't expecting this, and I know that you didn't create

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<v Speaker 1>this platform to promote your own business. However, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are on the front line fighting for us every day.

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<v Speaker 1>You sacrifice so much, you give so much so that

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important that the community know how they

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<v Speaker 1>can support your work and how they can support your movement.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys are interested in having your products featured

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<v Speaker 1>on the brand market, you can find us at the

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<v Speaker 1>BBM Agency on Instagram and click the link in the

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<v Speaker 1>bio for more info. We're gonna hear right now from

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<v Speaker 1>Leo Alexander of Notivating. His company is has an interesting name,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna tell us more about what it means

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<v Speaker 1>and what he's doing there in Tulsa, Oklahoma. So thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining us later, thanks for having us.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell us about your company name, what is, what

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<v Speaker 1>does it mean? And so we can make sure we're

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<v Speaker 1>saying that no problem if nor devoni it's innovation spelled backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of times, uh, we as inventors have

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<v Speaker 1>to look in the mirror. When you put the word

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<v Speaker 1>nor di finding the mirror, it just speaks out in innovation. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>innovation is quite different from invention, and innovation. Invention is typically, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what inventors do when they have one Eureka moment, one

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<v Speaker 1>Eureka moment that they want to commercialize. And that Eureka

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<v Speaker 1>moment could be something as simple as a hairclip, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that hairclip, Uh, it's something that you work the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of your life selling. Well, that's an inventor, and

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<v Speaker 1>we understand that there's places in the market for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But innovators are actually those that actually have a certain

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<v Speaker 1>set of skills that are resourced the line directed at problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Innovators bring solutions to problems and that's what our company

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<v Speaker 1>has been doing for the past thirteen years. And that

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<v Speaker 1>what we promoted. It's a totally new name. It's annulgrom

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<v Speaker 1>in uh in the world of technology. Wow. So you

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<v Speaker 1>are such an innovateur that everything I imagine you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know you're You're so much of a creative

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<v Speaker 1>person that I imagine everything you do has a purpose

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<v Speaker 1>all you know. Obviously the name of your company has

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<v Speaker 1>a purpace. Um. And now you're in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that where you're from? How did you end up in

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<v Speaker 1>Tulsa when you when you was your family raised there

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<v Speaker 1>after thirteen years of developing our company the way that

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<v Speaker 1>we did. Uh. As you know, we're an international company.

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<v Speaker 1>I typically lead off with everyone saying that I was

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<v Speaker 1>only born in America, but I was made in China.

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<v Speaker 1>My company, my company started in Houston, Texas, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from Louisiana. And as a as a young man, the

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<v Speaker 1>term black Walls Street never meant a GPS location to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The black Wall Street meant that there was a stock

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<v Speaker 1>market or a wall Street out there that fit my

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<v Speaker 1>criteria as a black man. Black Wall Street meant economics.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not mean a GPS location. It wasn't Greenwood.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I didn't. I was even I was totally

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<v Speaker 1>unaware of the massacre that occurred, because coming from the

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<v Speaker 1>Deep South, when you heard the term black Wall Street,

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<v Speaker 1>you always thought back to the prosperity, the great things

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<v Speaker 1>that you had heard about in those in those stories

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<v Speaker 1>from uh, from our ancestors, right, the stories of how

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<v Speaker 1>these these entrepreneurial minded individuals built an entire economy for

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and then really motivated generations to come. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>product of black Wall Street, even though I'm not from here.

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<v Speaker 1>So four years ago, UM I made the conscious decision

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<v Speaker 1>to move my manufacturing company No Devani and e O C.

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<v Speaker 1>To Tulsa as a means of rebuilding what I always

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<v Speaker 1>thought was the Black Wall Street. It was necessarily Greenwood

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<v Speaker 1>or or anything else. It was just that we had

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<v Speaker 1>the capacity and the resources and we wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>the staple of the rebuild. Well that's that's amazing, And

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<v Speaker 1>it says that you are award winning innovator. And and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell us some of the things that you create,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I heard of some things that people would be surprised. Well, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that always shocks people is all

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<v Speaker 1>of us are in the world of streaming right now

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<v Speaker 1>and remote and distance communications, but one of the first technologies,

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<v Speaker 1>the Colonel techn knowlogies that made even streaming possible was

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to share the screen of your phone to

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<v Speaker 1>another device wireless. Right. We call it miracasting or screen sharing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but the inventor of miracast technology uh the way that

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<v Speaker 1>you shared a smartphone to any other mobile device and

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the messing ground for what we know is uh

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<v Speaker 1>screen sharing and streaming. So a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of my my earlier technologies were around energy UH and

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<v Speaker 1>and really monitoring UM different assets for our US government.

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<v Speaker 1>So where are you guys from. Originally you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>from implement areas where you have blackouts and brown outs

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<v Speaker 1>mm hmm. Sometimes you know we're in New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>blackouts are happening. But you have a lot less of

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<v Speaker 1>them now because after two thousand and seven, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have known that the until the companies wouldn't have known

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<v Speaker 1>that you had a black unless you call them. And

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<v Speaker 1>now the poll top transformers tell the utility companies their

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<v Speaker 1>health and condition. Well, my technology, the UTMD monitor was

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<v Speaker 1>the was the purpose for them doing that. It initiated

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<v Speaker 1>the term smart grid, so our own smart grid system

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<v Speaker 1>back in two thousand and seven, and it's part of

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<v Speaker 1>our national uh uh, our national power grid. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>every utiler the company utilizes some bit of that technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there is there so like I guess you signed

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<v Speaker 1>in the a's and is there profitentiality for when you

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<v Speaker 1>helped to design? Like in other words, the better question

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely you design and invented more. I think we know,

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<v Speaker 1>um the things we're probably using every day that you

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<v Speaker 1>would never be able to tell us that you actually

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<v Speaker 1>were involved in. From two thousand and from two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and nine to now, I've developed two hundred and eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>unique electronic products that plug into a wall. Accompanies that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still under gag order about speaking right uh. Some

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<v Speaker 1>would say that every five minutes, you're gonna interact with

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<v Speaker 1>something that I've uh, something that either has our kernel

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<v Speaker 1>technology embedded in it or something that I personally designed.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the black history and the black present we

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<v Speaker 1>should be talking about. We're supposed to be celebrating brothers

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<v Speaker 1>like yourself. Well yet we don't even know that this

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<v Speaker 1>is happening, you know, So I just want to applaud

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<v Speaker 1>you and say, you know, give your flowers now and

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<v Speaker 1>said that we truly appreciate you know, your contributions just

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<v Speaker 1>to culture and just to our living. The living that

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<v Speaker 1>we exist in right now is a result of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things that you've done. And I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask this. You know, you said that you you

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<v Speaker 1>went to Tulsa because you wanted to recreate that you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to build that you It was anonymous with you know, innovation,

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<v Speaker 1>It was anonymous with you know, black people building and growing.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think it's gonna take to actually rebuild that?

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<v Speaker 1>Look at before I answer that question, I gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>my I gotta get my guy in here, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that okay? And you know how much we love you?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing it? Genius? Yeah, man, he is

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<v Speaker 1>a genius. You know, we didn't know about him, reverend,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're learning, you know now about this this gentleman,

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Alexander, that it should be you know, we should

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<v Speaker 1>all be applauding his work and supporting him, helping him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure you're there trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>you can help. Right. It was basically linked to civilizations communications,

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<v Speaker 1>So we must know who he is and and tell

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<v Speaker 1>our sorry, because it defies all the reasons like recism.

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<v Speaker 1>So that once you're on the inferior, but the interior

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, the reasonably on scientifics. It's not true. Yeah, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>advice and I'm an explosation. God me ever made some

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<v Speaker 1>of the black childing to garden himself and justifies all

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<v Speaker 1>that footres that's that's powerful. The last time we saw you,

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<v Speaker 1>it was where my son and uh, that's how we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the reverend was at um when we cried together

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<v Speaker 1>when we got the conviction. Uh chovinks the Chauvin trial

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<v Speaker 1>and me you him shocking and we cried as he

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<v Speaker 1>and he looked at me and said we we He

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<v Speaker 1>actually lived to see a man get charged with killing

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<v Speaker 1>the black man. That's why when you get when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you make election and fellow prime, which is touch out,

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<v Speaker 1>when you make h blacks hate crime. Dude, choose the Asians.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's touch out. Well. Was a national application problem,

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<v Speaker 1>not just local question. I want to know that. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you like? I was about to ask you, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it's gonna take two we build Black

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street to get to get us back to that

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<v Speaker 1>level of prominence where we build our own cities and

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<v Speaker 1>have our own running organizations and have our own coach

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<v Speaker 1>everything that our own things. What do you think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take? Well? I think, um, first we need to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of change the narrative and change the educational structure

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<v Speaker 1>of what our own Black Wall Street is today. If

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<v Speaker 1>if I tried to promote one Wall Street for one

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<v Speaker 1>black economy, um, I would literally be going against my

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<v Speaker 1>moral compass. Let me, let me, let me explain that understand,

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<v Speaker 1>our our economy is a global one and the color

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<v Speaker 1>of that economy should also be multiple colors. The only

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<v Speaker 1>way that that the Indians and the Asians got their

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<v Speaker 1>China towns and their Indian towns was by building or

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<v Speaker 1>cultivating uh, those talents into products and businesses that the

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<v Speaker 1>world wanted to buy. You use to those uh town

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<v Speaker 1>a block block massage pols and restaurants or something that's

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<v Speaker 1>not that's not the strip beyond that, that's where they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get the clos stuff that that's the point.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a physical locale. Uh. When you super teles

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<v Speaker 1>on now and you can push a button and become

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<v Speaker 1>those machine, that's global man, who you are? That that's colorless.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that we must think in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>we can we can launch to the world we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you that everyone needs to support, purchase,

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<v Speaker 1>patronize whatever our products, services and everything that we put

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<v Speaker 1>out right because of course, the way the economy moves

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<v Speaker 1>is that people are engaged. It's not just one community.

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<v Speaker 1>But the ownership piece is important, and that's I think. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you were getting ready to go to go ahead, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So so understand we haven't had the ability as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a culture to actually walk into odds and say,

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<v Speaker 1>these are our ideas, Wizard of Oz, where can these

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<v Speaker 1>ideas be created? We have taken our talents two other companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Those companies has embodied those those talents into products and

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<v Speaker 1>then it goes out to the market as brands. Understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that what I'm trying to build is all of the capacity,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the enablement tools, the actual factory, the actual

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<v Speaker 1>ability to actually take out of your mind those things

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<v Speaker 1>and turn them into a tangible reality without you thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about what you needed to go ahead and make that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Just bring your talent because all of the other resources

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<v Speaker 1>are here. That's why, that's why I bootstrapped my entire operation.

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<v Speaker 1>I have never gotten a venture capital loan, jump on

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<v Speaker 1>a pitch stage in front of a group of Anglo

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<v Speaker 1>Saxon saying, please give me two hundred tho dollars because

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<v Speaker 1>I have an idea. The minute you give the minute

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<v Speaker 1>you give your idea to them, for that two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars, you have already taken away our chance of

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<v Speaker 1>victory period period. So what I've what I've started to

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<v Speaker 1>do is now build all of that infrastructure. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a medical professional and you want to build

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<v Speaker 1>medical solutions, well, I built an entire sector of innovation

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<v Speaker 1>and development that will enable you to build that device

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<v Speaker 1>or take that service over the network. We needed to

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<v Speaker 1>own our own infrastructure, right, So in two thousand and twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>I became one of our nation's common carriers that has

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<v Speaker 1>fifty giga hurts and spectrum nationwide. Is not another black

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<v Speaker 1>man that can say that to his credit today. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But we were always looking at the wrong things. Were

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at the smaller parts of the prize. Infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>is is required. You can't you can't take your dreams

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<v Speaker 1>to the yellow brick road. Of the yellow brick road

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't been built, right, So my goal was to come

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<v Speaker 1>and tell us the later groundwork, put the infrastructure down

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<v Speaker 1>and then build the yellow brick road. And if black

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street needed an oyes, well, I took up the mantel.

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<v Speaker 1>In nation means a lot and here's the access mere

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<v Speaker 1>shift in Paradise. We will will have my black Wall Street.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have a street to what we can do and

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<v Speaker 1>black Wall State in Black World Country. I think it's anation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amation. We have an ability to create a nation

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<v Speaker 1>within the nation. It only takes one speration to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, we have to change the way we're thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really good to see you, Redam Jackson. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>glad you're in Tulsa to um, you know, being able

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<v Speaker 1>to uh go back to a place and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you've been many times, but to see so many young people,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly commemorating and learning more about Tulsa. So many people

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<v Speaker 1>had did not know, they didn't know the full extent

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<v Speaker 1>of the massacre. And I know this is something you've

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<v Speaker 1>been teaching for a long time and finally people are

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to listen, um and hopefully uh in your life

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 1>at this point, after your accomplishment so much, you are

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to see the fruits of your labor that they

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<v Speaker 1>are so young folks who are who are beginning to

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<v Speaker 1>get what you've been telling us for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Really ride the Master. For example, people did not know

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<v Speaker 1>that the ten album they were different, a better share,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means that it is the shaffs the drop

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<v Speaker 1>um save all the company and usually played to drop bombs.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first bomb was not dropping here Shima, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Pearl Harbor dropping here on learning a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, and they sampataple on the hotel people motel

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<v Speaker 1>for the house probably were down the man las day,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. Uh John Rodgers, you know Don John Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>that was great red ball and he ran off the

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas city and his son tried to lawsome to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rod's dad was the first black year of struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>His mama like he made here a struggles putleration out

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<v Speaker 1>of wolfing. He down on the other walls on the

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<v Speaker 1>board of Nike, and uh let go and uh um

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<v Speaker 1>and and uh youtory drawing. So you see that some

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<v Speaker 1>of the US water came drowned. If I can't burn,

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<v Speaker 1>keep on coming. M Thank you from hell, love you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you give us an understanding of what's been happening. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who you are, especially if you're black, there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be stunting going on. So we know there's been

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<v Speaker 1>some controversy and some difficulties that you've been dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they and what needs to be done to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get around UH so In in Oklahoma during

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<v Speaker 1>the entire COVID epidemic, I was one of those individuals

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 1>that stepped up to UM to aid and aid the

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<v Speaker 1>call of PPE manufacturing. UH not only did not only

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<v Speaker 1>did I supplied first line responders, PPE masks and and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else, but I also worked with the state and

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<v Speaker 1>local area to organize bringing my factory here stateside so

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<v Speaker 1>that we wouldn't have to go through all of the

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<v Speaker 1>import uh logistical hurdles that everyone else was having in

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>the country. That effort took about one point seven million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars out of my pie right. So we brought the

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<v Speaker 1>factory down, got everything in line, only to be denied

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<v Speaker 1>the state or local contract. There was a level of compromise.

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 1>They're done by h the governor's office, the cities officials,

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<v Speaker 1>and some large contract in the millions was awarded to

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<v Speaker 1>a bar owner that had only filed a license the

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<v Speaker 1>day that he was awarded this very large contract. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this raised my eyebrows and it was literally, Um, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a slap in the face, is what it really was.

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Because here we had already been on a mission to

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<v Speaker 1>support the community first line responders, the the the emergency responders,

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the police departments, and all of the hospitals. We provided

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>those things free of costs to them. Um. But we

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>weren't doing it just to get a state contract. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta understand, there's individuals here that so our ability way

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<v Speaker 1>beyond building manufacturing for the MASS uh, and took aim

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>at my company though the MASS was actually being used

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<v Speaker 1>as an instrument to acquire all of my company to

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<v Speaker 1>with you and I just I'm trying to be I'm

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to be as tactical tax boy as I can

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>because this is a case that's that's ongoing. A local businessman, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>a lawyer that I thought was my lawyer, UH, that

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>was compromising his position a state that UM has now

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>convicted the person that they went with because the guy

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>never delivered more than ten thousand mats. They gave him

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>millions and he gave him ten thousand masks. Uh. I

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>still have half a million masks in my warehouse right

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>now that we'll go to them, and they still haven't

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>picked up today in today and Tulsa is um. I

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to bring this up during the whole commemoration

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>ceremonies because uh, I think that the area has gone

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>through enough pain. But under under the underlying things and

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the underlying story that's going on right now is the

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>fact that a modern day Linson is being done and

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>they're just changing their faces. These guys would not They

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>were one embarrassed by the fact that our minority BA

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>manufacturing company was able to do things that they as

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a state or a city not new for the people

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of this community. And in order to in order to

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and uh discipline me or tap my hand,

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the refused giving me any of the contracts and then

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>started to use their governance powers to go ahead and

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>try to shut down or close down my factory. So

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>what were some what are some of the things that

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>they left you know against you with some of the allegations.

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>So they after Now you gotta understand, this is five

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>months into everyone has already received their masks. They sent

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the fire marshal and told me, I need to close

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>down because I needed to put new sprinkler systems there,

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>M right sample. Now, my adjacent neighbor he owns a

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>carpet company, same sprinkler systems. Carpet catches on fire. Our

0:30:56.400 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>masks where life saving h and all new had it

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>nothing that could catch on fire there. Uh so uh

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>that was their first tactic. The second second tactic was

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>UM constantly bringing me up on standards. They had me

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>go through rigorous testing of the product that was coming

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>off of our production line. It was supposed to be

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>deemed that in quality through every test that they came through.

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>We tested in ninety over above the standard that they

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>were asking for. So at every level of the litmus

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>tests that we excelled or exceeded what the standard would be,

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>they would they would then make other excuses for why

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't continue to work with us. I hear the

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>attempt to shut down. But when you think that they're

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>attempting to take your company, is that something different? And

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>what does that look like? So? Uh so, you know,

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty sophisticated web here if you if you

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>ask me the reason why, UM, it's totally Some people

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>would have said it was impossible for black Wall Street

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to be rebuilt because of how the power structure is

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>here in Tosso, Oklahoma. Um, when you look at Greenwood

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>right now, right now, it's controlled by a handful of

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Anglo Saxons that uh project themselves as the philanthropists of

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the community. But they literally just project themselves that way.

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>They really blocked them in. Um, there's a parking garage,

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>baseball field, a church, and a museum. Okay, and then

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>there's one block of what was black Wall Street, one

0:32:56.800 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>block right or two behind the train track. While all

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of the ownership of that is those individuals. Right any

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>any book minority or black business that was actually thriving,

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>those people were going to be a part of so

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>that they can control the matriarch of that business. I'm

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>an outsider and I'm a totally different type of entrepreneur.

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I never came here with my hands out. In fact,

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mingle with anyone in Tulsa for the first

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>eighteen months. I just went right to work. They saw

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>that as sliding the power structure here. There's a there's

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a group that don't see color in that way that

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>want to actually assist the black businessman. And then that

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>power group that want to have some of the people

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that they intend to make their political figureheads uh positions,

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>so that they can only continue to control the area.

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>These are the people that they will support, and these

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>people will be totally against you. They're in the law enforcement,

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>They're in the fire departments, there, in the school systems. There.

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a web. It's really really crazy. So I felt

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>a victim to this when I started to open my

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>doors and accept what they uh, what they called help.

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.399
<v Speaker 1>When an individual comes up to your door and says, hey,

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I love your operations, I want to be a part

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>of it. And I'm like, sorry, no, thank you, no, no, no,

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I just want to bring my guys from the local university.

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying any name, but it might affect uh

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the lovely. I want to bring some guys uhh that

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>will see what you're doing because I think we can

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>help you. Right, And that all starts to become pressure.

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Before you know what, you're bomboarded by the opportunity that

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 1>you may be successful. Now, this is what would happen

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>to any of to you that would be coming to Tulsa.

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>You would time, and you would be welcome, and you

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>would be greeted, and it would be it would be

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:11.720
<v Speaker 1>very kind, very open until your plan is then released.

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 1>And if your plan is malleable or or small enough

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.399
<v Speaker 1>for them to be able to do themselves, then your

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>plan is not going to be done by you. Your

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>plan is gonna be done by them, and they're gonna

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>check you to the curve. As as that that outdoor,

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I was a little differently because I was already rooted

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 1>eighteen months before they even knew I was here. Right,

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>So now we're now we're in uh, we're in a

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 1>we're in a fight. One of those individuals became really

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>integral to our company. We brought him in as h

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>one of our consoles, and that council started to navigate

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the our correspondence on our legal documentations to put himself

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>in power mm hmm in my company. You know. Unfortunately

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>we are not able to really get deeper into this conversation. Um,

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>but there's so much more to learn. First of all,

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>we want to know, is there somewhere that folks can

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>go to learn about this? Are their articles about it

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 1>or is it something that you're just beginning to talk about.

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:24.720
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing I want to say is that Unfortunately,

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>your story is not new. I'm you're not saying this.

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I am saying that this is to Mega Mallory saying

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>it speaking on my own behalf that I know a

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.959
<v Speaker 1>far too many stories where when certain types of white

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 1>people get involved, they try to strip the power um

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>of black folks that own their own businesses or to

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>have great organizations and ideas. We saw it happen even

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>within the Women's March, where we built something incredible and

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>certain types of white women got involved and utilize guys

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>be a tax from the outside world as a way

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>to take to try to take power. We didn't have

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to give it up. We could have said this is

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>our organization and we're gonna hold onto it, but we

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:17.879
<v Speaker 1>would have been holding onto our own demands because at

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>times you have to free yourself of those types of

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 1>white folks. And that's just the truth. And so I

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>just want to say to you that it's unfortunate that

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the story you're telling is one that I've heard so

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>many times of folks who took the help and the

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>help ended up being very, very damaging. And so whatever

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>we can do to support you, we want to do that.

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Please tell us in there are other ways for us

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>to find out more that we just have to keep

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>inviting you back to street politicians than make you get

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>a platform. Absolutely, we're gonna start featuring it. Um. Of

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 1>course our woman TV is gonna be covering some things

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>as well. But I don't know, I don't know if

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys realize that. But I

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>own the local newspaper here, so I owned the Hispanic

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and UH and the English publication here, the seminar and Prasanna.

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna be getting the story out. The thing is,

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I think these people tried it with the wrong one.

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>You woan it's a it's a constant story told, but uh,

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not a story told when you go up against

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>something that as as strong as the as the adversary. Right,

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>So there wasn't there wasn't a need for us to

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.760
<v Speaker 1>go public with this, and I wanted to. I wanted

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the commemoration to move uh along the lines that it

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>did move. Um. And if if everything goes well, this

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 1>will be one of those situations where these guys take

0:38:54.440 --> 0:39:00.720
<v Speaker 1>their uh deceitful desires elsewhere and allow me to continue

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>to progress the work that's at my hand here building

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Black Wall Street because they have to know that. Now

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I have to make a malary on my back, and

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm the rest of the coalition, uh that's now fully

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>aware of their tactics because there will never be another

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.959
<v Speaker 1>public lenching. I am never going to be a mortar. Yeah,

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the work that we're the work that we're done right now,

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>it is way too important for my people and the

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>rest of America. So every because you know what you

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>what you created for, you know, just black generations and

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 1>the way you've evolved the culture and all the things

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that you're doing, you've done and you and you're currently

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>still doing. You know, I just want to say I appreciate.

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>We always celebrate our brothers who are innovative, you know,

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and wout your shifters when they're gone. So I just

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>want to give your flowers now, brother and say we're

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>just learning about you know, black black history and black

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>president all at the same time. So we just want

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>to say thank you for what you're doing, what you're

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.759
<v Speaker 1>doing for the culture and anything that we can do.

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, this platform is yours. Whenever you need us,

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>we're here, man, your family, and you know you're you're

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>just you're something that the Blueprint. I love you for that.

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, right, Leo the Blueprint Alexander, thank you so

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.800
<v Speaker 1>much for being with us today. Thank you, thank you,

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>thank you. That was a dope interview, man, Leo Alexander

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the Blueprint. You know, he that's his new nickname. Man.

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>When you see people that great and evolutionary and you

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 1>don't even know, like this man should be in history books. Yeah, yeah,

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>do some. We got to do our own research because

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>we don't. We don't know of that. Well. I think, um,

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I've heard of some of his work, and I'm trying to,

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>like place where it is that I learned about, um,

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>some of the work that he's done in the past,

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and just trying to I'm just trying to you don't

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>even trying to figure out, like I heard of him somewhere,

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 1>who was it that told me? And why are we

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>not fighting for him? I don't know. We gotta do

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.359
<v Speaker 1>some research and figure out a ways the whole Well,

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely gonna do some research. But what I've learned,

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little bit of research I've done so far,

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just amazing, man, And that just that brings me

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>to my I don't get it when we have brothers

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like that, and we have other dynamic you know, innovators,

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>culture shifters, and and finance experts and and all of

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>them are saying what we need to be doing. That

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>we need economic empowerment, we need to own our own things,

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>we need to build it. I just don't get why

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>it isn't happening, you know that. It's it's so frustrating

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that we keep having like We've had a meeting, like

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.439
<v Speaker 1>you called a meeting years ago. We said so many

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:16.720
<v Speaker 1>different influences in a room in Sylvia's and they'll forgetting

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and we sat around it's a round table where everybody

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 1>said we need to be doing these things. And we

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>had one of the dopest meetings, you know. And from

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>that meeting, it was just words, you know what. And

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I was about to say we did come out of

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>it is Jay Morrison created the fund and which he

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>created a whole you know, crowdfunding for black people and

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>created the Black House and which we are invested in,

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.439
<v Speaker 1>and so something did. But I'm just trying to say,

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:49.919
<v Speaker 1>the overwhelming majority of people in that room what should

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>have been accomplished as a collective with everybody, not just

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.759
<v Speaker 1>one Because we always do that, right. What we do

0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>is we have these meetings with a bunch of people

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and say, okay, let's do this, and then one person

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to go and do it, and anybody else will follow.

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>What is it gonna take us to get on on

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>code as we will? Like, I just don't get well,

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I think who have to see a lot of different cultures,

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 1>not different ethnicities. They work together, they build together, they

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>build infratral to, they build organizations, they build companies, and

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:23.879
<v Speaker 1>they continue to build and they continue to take over.

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to know what is it gonna take for

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>us to do it? I just don't get why we

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 1>haven't done that. I think that it is a function

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 1>of white supremacy that we've been dealing with for a

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 1>very long time. Um. I'm just thinking about the meltdown,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, that we see happening from so many

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>people around the Black Lives Matter movement in this moment,

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>right And I know why. It's because, Um, you know,

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 1>while they always should be accountability, while they always should

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.720
<v Speaker 1>be checks and balances, all those things, I don't disagree

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>with them, but they're also is a direct attempt, a

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>direct attempt to destroy and divide leaders and the movement

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<v Speaker 1>and people from supporting the movement, and we fall forward

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>every time. Every time we start to believe the narratives

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that we hear, they get a few black faces to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and start critiquing, challenging, um, what's the other word? Uh,

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>going after if you will, certain individuals who have voices

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>they do. This is not new, it's not new. It's

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the same process over and over and over again. And

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:45.240
<v Speaker 1>every single time we fall into it. I have friends

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>that mother and daughter and family members that are not

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:54.279
<v Speaker 1>even speaking because they the one person who know some

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 1>of the folks that are in the movement believe stuff

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.320
<v Speaker 1>that they're hearing from people who are not in the

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>movement do nothing for our people, nothing for our communities,

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 1>And they're listening to those those individuals and saying, oh, well,

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe those people are right. And so therefore it makes

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>it very difficult for folks to get together and to

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>do anything as a collective because the tactic of the

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Willie Lynch syndrome that may not have been real in

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>terms of it being in effect. Um in the past, right,

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>they say, Willie Lynch is It's not true. He wasn't

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:34.800
<v Speaker 1>a real person. But whoever wrote the letter. It's someone

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 1>who wrote it understanding exactly our conditions, our attitudes, the mindset,

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 1>and also the the the intentional, the intentional destruction of

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the black community and how it is designed. And so

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>we follow it all the time, every time we follow

0:45:57.080 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>it by becoming agents in our own destruction. Um. And

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.240
<v Speaker 1>so therefore, when you say, well, why are people getting together?

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>You have so many folks that they say, well, I

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>want to work with other people, but I'm concerned about

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 1>whether or not they're going to hurt me, lying on me,

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 1>cheat me, or I want to try to get it

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<v Speaker 1>done first so that everybody else has to thank me

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>as the person who created it. And until we get

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>past those mindsets, I'm not sure that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish it. One thing I will say is as you

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you know you and I both and and and and

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 1>more recently on a regular basis, I talked to puff, right,

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I talked to him, and I know for sure that

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:47.320
<v Speaker 1>he has a clearer mind and he's really seriously trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to move us to another place.

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 1>But even he will start and then see the challenges

0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and start and started, you know, he starts being like

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how we're gonna get them right. So,

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 1>in this moment when he's coming to us and he's saying, hey,

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to start shipping the culture, we all need

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to start working together. We need to help him to

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 1>do the work because he has the voice. Look at

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Jay Jay. I'm not saying he's done everything right. You know,

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>me and Pouf have gone back and forth about some

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 1>of his moves in terms of how he sees the movement.

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 1>But you know they have an interest, you know what

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to accomplish. So if we can encourage them,

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 1>if we can work with them, if we can create

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<v Speaker 1>the type of installation that we all need to be

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>able to move this thing forward, perhaps we can get somewhere.

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's gonna take not just the big guys,

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's gonna take the big guys, the street activists,

0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna take organizers of all different types. It's gonna

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 1>take a whole bunch of us to be like really

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 1>in on making this thing happen. Well, I definitely agree

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>with that. I just want us to do it sooner

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.879
<v Speaker 1>than later, man, because I keep hearing it and I'm

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 1>watching the level of consciousness that our whole culture is

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 1>coming to. Everybody is seeing what's happening and they realizing

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the blueprint. They realizing what we've been through. They're realizing

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:26.399
<v Speaker 1>the blueprint to move past it. And everybody is saying

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it over here, and he's saying over there, I just

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>want us to collectively come together. And I just say

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it and just do it, man. So that's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>And with that said, another amazing episode. Shout out to

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>let the blueprint Alexander, you know, for his input and

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 1>what he's contributed to the culture. And shout out to

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you man for just being a good co host. Man.

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0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:19.560
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0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and we appreciate you too. And with that said, I'm

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 1>not gonna always be right. Tamika is getting starting to

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>be a little more right than she usually is, but

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 1>she ain't gonna always be wrong. But we both gonna

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>always be a thing. That's how we owed it. That's

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 1>how we owed it. That's how we ow that's how

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we owned it.