WEBVTT - Prelude to the BS 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.720 When I wrote, y'all, I'm across the usc Compton watch 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:11.360 thank to La from on the California the Valley. We 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.320 represent that kill of county. So if you're keeping it 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.119 real on your side of your town, you tune into 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:22.880 Gangster Chronicles. The goals. He gonna tell you how we go. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.440 If I line my notes will grow like Pinocchio. We're 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.400 gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:33.440 than chronic goals. This is not your average show. You're 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.480 now tuned into the real mcain, Big James, and Big 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:48.440 Stairs from the streets. Hello, Welcome to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.600 the production of iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.279 Make sure you download the i heeart app and subscribe 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.800 to The Gangster Chronicles. For my Apple users, hit the 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.040 purple mica on your front screen. Subscribe to the gainst 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:02.080 the Chronicles and leave a start rating a comment. Jill, 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.679 you know what to do? Another episode of the Gangster 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.200 Chronicles and you got your boy Big eight in the building. 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.720 I'm with the homie Big stealing the house. Man. You 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.080 know what, we got a lot of ship that takes 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.840 on the day. Man, I want to start off with 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.560 this oscar ship. Man, I got a lot to talk 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:22.240 about that. They Actually, there's a lot of stuff that's 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.240 been pissing me off. Man, how they made the home 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.840 Girl Angel look bastard, just looked like she was the 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.440 biggest hater in the world for her being upset about losing. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.680 I didn't watch the Oscars and shit. I don't think 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.960 I ever watched the motherfucking Oscars, man, to be honest. 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.920 I mean, I watch a good movie and shit, but 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:45.680 it's just like the Grammys and shit. I've never been 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:51.000 a big fan of the award shows and shit, even 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:55.840 down to the ship like BT Awards and ship. I'm 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.280 just not an award show dude. I don't And that's 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.600 not because I don't win shit. So let's get it straight. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.400 You know what I'm saying, I'm all I'm it's not 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.360 because of that. I'm not what people you know call 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.720 the hater nowadays. I don't give a fuck if you 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.160 win or lose or whatever this shit is. It's good 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.359 for you know, people's careers and give them that extra 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.880 status or whatever. But you know, I'm a nigga from 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.840 Compton born and raised, and you know I like to 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:29.520 deal with facts about shit, So you know, that's the facts, 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.600 you know what it is. I mean, shout out to 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:35.480 Kendrick again, Tde you know for the work with a 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.960 good Kid in Mad City. You know, I was on 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.600 the song got nominated for a Grammy, you know. But 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.639 other than that, you know, Um, did you go to 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:50.880 the celebration? Did you go to the war zone? I went, Um, 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:56.080 just for the experience. Uh, it was it was a 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.120 it was a bit it was. It was a bit much, 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:04.600 you know, um, having to do all this shit lining 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:09.040 up to it. So would I go again? No, Like 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:13.000 I said before that I'd never you know, watch the 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:18.119 Grammys or or or the Oscar shit. So um. As 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:23.120 far as with Angela Bassett is concerned. Um, why it 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.160 was brought up that she was looking like she was hating. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.200 I know they caught her expression or whatever. I don't know. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.200 Motherfucker's would be really reaching the dog because it's like, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.639 you know, she could have had gas for all we know, 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.520 just not been feeling like being at that. Motherfucker. She 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.880 could have been like this some bullshit. They knew I 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.080 wasn't gonna win this. Motherfucking You got me sitting up 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.000 in here looking crazy. I mean, but I don't know, 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.560 like you just said, she probably knew I ain't gonna 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:53.080 win this ship. Yeah. So but you know, um, when 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:57.000 you're in that position that you know this Bassett is in, 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.960 you know, you you have to put on that face, 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.720 you know, and you have to appear and show up 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.680 because you're nominated and you know, and people want to 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.000 pump it up like you know, oh yeah you got 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:15.040 a chance or whatever, and and so, um, I guess 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.279 it was. I don't know would it be a shock 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.680 to anyone that that, you know, And I guess us 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.880 as black people felt like, you know, they got to 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.440 give it to her because of the role she played 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:33.080 and what she represented. You know. But man, come on, man, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.800 y'all know how this world works. I mean, if you, 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.839 if you, if you, if you dumb to that shit, man, 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.520 I mean if you just as you know, if you 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.800 as mature as I am, and you've been here for 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.120 a while, man, you know how this You know how 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:50.039 this game works. It's never changed. So really, you know. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.640 And then next thing I want to talk about, Man, 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:59.440 it's our homeboy Charleston. White motherfucker's is Huneck Charleston right now? 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.720 They made the motherfucker Now I heard as tyrant like 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:08.920 everybody else. Dear right, m Charleston man, you know, me 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.320 and Charleston got history together. Charleston man. You know Digital 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.719 Soapbox was one of the first people man to you know, 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.920 recognize his talents, man, because he do have a lot 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.960 of talent. He's a funny ass dude, and there's a 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.279 lot of truth to the ship he's say, whether motherfuckers 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.880 want to acknowledge that part of it or not. He 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.200 tells the truth about a lot of shit, now you 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.039 know what all the other stuff man, You know, he's 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.560 being sarcastic about a lot of stuff, and a lot 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.280 of people, you know, the internet would ever come out 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.400 of motherfucker's mouth, They just believe it to be fact. 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.080 He just really be fucking with a whole bunch of people, right. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.279 I don't think my man got no intentions on doing 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:45.359 nothing wrong. But I see Charleston going in on black 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.400 people all the fucking time, right, he goes in on 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.719 black people all time. He goes in on rappers. Charleston 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.040 's fair motherfucker right, But there ain't no problem of 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.320 long as he's sticking the fucking with niggas, right. But 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.520 the minute he says something about them people lack Cardon 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.000 had a show canceled and all kinds of ship. Where 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.920 was the cancelations that when he was talking about all niggas. Now, 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:07.920 not that I want the homey shows to get canceled 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.320 or nothing, but I just thought it was all running, 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:15.640 you know, I thought it was some shit about it. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.800 You ain't got no comment about that, look at me. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:27.240 I'm just man, Um, I don't know Charleston. I mean 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:33.840 we had a moment show. Yeah, Um, it seemed like 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.919 when we had him on the show, his approach was different. 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:43.440 He's a very intelligent motherfucker girl. Yeah, but I don't 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.440 And like I said, I don't have nothing to say 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.599 about because people do what they gotta do. You feel me, 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.680 That's the way the world works. If you get a hustle, motherfucker, 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.880 you gotta you gotta jump on that hustle. But sometimes 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.320 you know where I come from and what I have 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.919 seen and whatever, as far as it's been from the 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:05.160 streets or business or dealing with people, you're different, you 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:11.040 know different, you know, races or whatever. I'm not wanting 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:15.040 to want to get ahead by controversy. I've never been 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.480 that dude, you know, I guess, because I guess. I'm 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:25.560 a low key motherfucker and I have never starved for 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:31.080 success to where I want to live my life in 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:37.680 jeopardy to achieve success. Um, I get in where I 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.160 fit in. You're getting that. That's that's the way it is. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:46.200 And some people, you know, now with with with you know, 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:50.360 with the internet being so motherfucking popular and social motherfucking media, 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.880 and everybody want to you know, tune in and you 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.880 know the latest controversy is the best and all that 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.080 type of ship. Motherfucker's feed off for that shit. You 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:06.840 know what I'm saying, to want to to to live 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.360 like that, you know what I'm saying, and and and 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:15.400 and always want to have a U say so and 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.720 people's shit to each his own, you know what I'm saying. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.440 You feel that works for him, Johnston feel that works 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:26.880 for him. One thing I will say is that fortunately 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.840 in this country, we do have freedom of speak exactly. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:31.880 People can say whatever the fun they want. You can 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.040 say what the fuck you want to. People can say 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.240 whatever they want and ain't up to me, you or 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.880 nobody else to impede that, because that's all you know, 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.160 that's all right, And the problem with that is just 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.080 like you can say what you want to, but you 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.880 can't control another motherfucker's actions either. So now it's just 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:52.600 like you said, a slippery slope, because everybody's not going 0:08:52.800 --> 0:09:00.240 to look at your antics as entertainment or you know 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.679 all this nigga just talking or whatever whatever. Some people 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.680 take shit very seriously, you know what I'm saying, and 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.000 thus you might be putting your life in danger. And 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.480 when you when you're ready to walk that route for 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.520 a dollar sign, man, it's it's like, it's it's crazy 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.920 to me. I guess that nigga he down for whatever though, 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.839 is one thing about it? Anybody to ring upon him, 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.160 don't being dealt with, and you don't mind popping at 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.840 the motherfucker. So I guess you know, like you said, 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.640 when you I mean, but you can scream self defense, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.640 you know what I'm saying. If I could talk shit 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.320 to you on the internet all day and social media 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.040 and fuck you this and fuck you that and this 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.360 and that, and then I'm gonna tell you where I'm 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.520 gonna be at, you get me in the minute you 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.720 approached nine when one is being dialed, you get me. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.440 Or if I feel in danger for my life because 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.720 somebody then poured up. Then you know I'm gonna pop 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.160 out of nigga and claim self defense. You know exactly 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.240 with which my which my nigga do a lot, you 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.559 know what I'm saying. He has no problem with with 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.360 call all of the poles or quality authorities or putting 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:07.760 motherfuckers on blasts for their antics. So and that's the 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.120 way he has built his That's the way he has 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:15.040 built his his his status. You feel me. Yeah, he's 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.679 definitely built his cache. And then and then again, you know, 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.000 like you said, we can we can. You know, we 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.360 can speak on niggas or we can speak on each 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.400 other like it ain't shit, you feel me. We do 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.960 it in records, we do it. And when all kinds 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.600 of beefs jump off, we fight each other, We blast 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.719 at each other. We do all of that. But you 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:39.719 already know when you take a trip to that other 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.400 side dealing with other races, whether who may it be, 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.040 they feel to come down hard. You feel me, Oh, man, 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.720 they don't play that ship. They go definitely. And one 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.760 thing about about it, though, man meet knowing them cats man, 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:59.360 they are always kind of prepared for any smoke that comes. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.480 They wait you see what I'm saying, like like that's 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.280 the life they chose to live, and they're living it. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.400 More part them, you know what I mean? More potato him. Um, 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.520 you know, before we go into the subject of our show, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.360 because we are going to talk about you know, a 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:16.400 rapper to eight some motherfuckers. Yeah, I want to. I 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:21.400 want to speak on the Oscar ship just one more 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:25.560 time with Angela. And because I was seeing a lot 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:32.040 of comments still about um, the situation of how that 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:36.640 went down. Did you watch you watch? You watched Wakanda, right? 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.199 You watched The New Black Panther, Right? I thought it 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.880 was a great movie. Have you watched the movie with 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.080 the movie that won Best Picture in the movie with 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.680 Jamie Lee Curtis. Honestly, I had never heard of it 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.480 until the Oscars came up. I haven't heard I've never 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:56.720 heard of it. I watched it last night. My take 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:02.000 on it. And then did you hear that, Um, Tom 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.920 and James Cameron didn't show up to the big you know, 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.360 they have some big ass party or some shit, right, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.240 so they say them too didn't show up because they 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.480 knew they wasn't gonna win the other movie was gonna 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:21.839 win Best picture. So I watched the ship. Um, it 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:28.400 was different. It wasn't what you would take Brian, did 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:34.320 you see it? Do you see it? So it's got 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.640 the kid you've seen You've seen Raiders of the Loss art, 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.120 I mean not Raiders of the Loss are Indiana Jones. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.480 So you remember the little Chinese kid from the Indiana 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:46.120 Jones movies. He's playing the older dude. He's the older 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:52.679 now he's in the movie. Okay, Um, it's about this. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.679 I don't know if they I guess say Chinese, about 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.959 Chinese lady her husband. Uh, they run in a line 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:06.160 dream Matt, and it's it's a comedy. It's it's a 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:12.119 comedy adventure type of shit. She look boring. I honestly, 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:18.160 I paused it about five times, and I watched movies. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:22.280 You get me. I paused it five times because I 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:26.840 kept losing interest in it. You give me. Um, I'm 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:34.040 watching the ship and it's like it's basis a multiverse, 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.319 dimensional shit and different universe, some shit you would think 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.040 you would see in a superhero movie. Yeah, I'm gonna 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:43.760 have to check it out. You have to check it out. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.719 I mean, I'm gonna have to check it up. And 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:56.800 then I guess what people saying about Angela Bassett. Angela 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.840 plays a lot of strong roles in movies, right she does. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.960 She plays a lot of strong She plays a lot 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.840 of strong Black female roles, whether she's the assistant to 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:12.440 the President, whether she's Tina Turner, whether she's the Wakanda Prince, 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:18.120 you know, queen. She plays those movies, you don't really 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.560 see her And I don't know, maybe that's what she 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.600 demands that, you know what I'm saying, I got to 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:28.400 play those roles. But when it come to them people 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.440 and how they're looking at it, you already doing what 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:39.360 you already do. Yeah, And I hate the scream. I 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.000 hate the scream racism, man, But when you're living in 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.160 the country, man, just with the history that the United 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:49.360 States has for always marginalizing us at any point that 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.800 they can get or always trying to make us look 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.560 like we're crazy. It's just like we talked about last week. 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.600 They said that Homi Sean Kimp did a drive by 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.560 and it really it was just a little small altercation. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.720 Right then you got the ship with you know, the 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.080 basketball player, with him waving the gun and spending fifty 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.360 thousand in the Strip club which I don't know why 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.800 people feel like that's a fucking business and everybody is 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.840 coming down on his kids, So it seems like we 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.080 are always judged more harshly than other people. They're always 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.920 moving the field goal posts back on us. Definitely, And 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.960 look what in the in the sense of when you 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:31.920 watch you know, Denza always played great movies, you lead movies, 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.360 but look what he had to do to win an oscar. 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.240 He had even play a nigga from the street selling 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.960 dope and crooked and all that shit corrupting stuff. Yeah, 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.680 that's with all the with all the great roles that 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:46.120 he has had, all the great characters that he's portraying, 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.120 when you got somebody like Denn Ziel or Angela Bassett 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:53.040 twin your partner your movie and not saying yeah, not 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.880 saying that it's a step down, but it's sort of 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.840 like like, motherfucker, I want you to watch disgrace you 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.080 herself to a level, and then I'll go, fuck it, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.280 I'll give you you know what I'm because look what 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.000 Holly Berry had to do to get a motherfucking out. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.520 She had to get a man, She had to get 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.200 a man, a pusson like motherfucker wm wan't you playing 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:16.160 no strong black motherfucking queen and a motherfucking leader and 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.200 a motherfucking female who was fucking battered and then came 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.120 out of it and stood up. No, we want you 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.600 to do some disgrace for shit or some funny dumb 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.080 shit and then maybe we'll consider it. So that's what 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.480 that's my take on it, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.840 They felt like, not like, you know, no disrespect to 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.920 the other actress is you know, Jamie Lee or whatever, 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:44.160 but like, you know, like the Halloween Lady, you feel 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.160 me like we know her from Michael Myers and shit, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.120 you know what I'm saying. So her role was kind 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:55.040 of different, you know, but still it's like if you 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.280 looked at her role and then you compared it to 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.760 what Angela did, and like I said, when they feel like, 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.880 you know, we don't want that represented or something, That's 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.240 how I take it. I don't know if I took 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:10.000 it as ratio. I just took it like motherfuckers want 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.720 you to put yourself in a different position in that 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:19.600 in that category, you know what I'm saying. You know what, man, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.560 do you think the music industry is the same with 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.320 being pressured to make certain kinds of music. Do you think, like, 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.680 because I knew when I was when I had my deal, 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:30.640 they wanted me to make a certain kind of music, 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.440 and they wanted me to wrap over all the Little 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.760 John shit. I actually I actually winn and met with 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:37.800 Little John because you know, people know he was standing 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.119 up in Hollywood at the time, and I listened to 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:46.760 some beats and all I kept hearing was that it 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:48.400 was the same thing. And I was like, man, we're 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:53.320 gonna pay. I think at one time, and if you're 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:57.240 talking about our era still, I think at one time 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:04.320 the majors started trying to influence what they wanted to, 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.560 you know, fuck with because there was that you remember, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.680 there was at a point in time where they was like, man, 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.919 we didn't touching none of that street shit no more. 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.760 And so because it happened to me, you know, the 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:20.480 labels was like I had signed a motherfucking deal with UM. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.960 I signed them a fucking production deal with Big Beat Atlantic, 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.560 you know, to you know, after I left Epic, you know, 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.280 it was supposed to be a deal production deal, like 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.439 three albums, and then I had two groups I was 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:41.280 gonna bring over. Everything was good until they was like, oh, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:46.520 I don't want to do that gangster ship no more. 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.879 I mean, yeah, honestly, you know, we can get some 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.959 Timberland beats, we can get some you know, just you know, 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.680 not that you know that that type of music that 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.960 was turning at the point, you know, um, and I 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:05.160 basically lost the deal because I refused to do shit 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.600 like that, and then basically they didn't want to touch it. 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:12.000 So it was either like, you do this music or 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.000 we don't want to do the deal. You get me. 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.879 So I think at one point in time it was 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.879 influenced to do certain type of music, especially if they failed, 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.960 it was gonna be lucrative. Right now, I'm anfu, you 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.199 do what the fuck you want to do. Niggas do 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.160 all kinds of music, and if it could get over, 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.920 it get over. You know. I don't think there's too 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:36.720 many influences by labels now, because let's face it, a 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.080 lot of niggas are their own labels and they do 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:40.680 what the fuck they want to do, and then the 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.880 majors come along and go, hey, let me get your 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:46.719 distribution deal or some shit like that. Yeah. I do 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.560 think at one time, though, man, it went to be 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:51.600 the opposite. You remember, it was a brief period in 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.240 the nineties to where it seemed like every label was 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.600 coming out with it gainst the Repper, like it was 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.920 just Jains the Repper. It was proliferated with just everybody 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.720 was a third. I mean, that's just like the movie companies. 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:04.919 You see it. You see a movie come out and 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.679 then motherfucking six seven months later, you see a movie 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:13.680 on the same You know, subject Um Labels was doing 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:17.000 that ship motherfucker. Oh nigga. If you had you a 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.720 snoop Dog, Oh yeah, we gotta get us a snoop Dog. 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.160 If you had you an MCA, oh we gotta get 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.840 us an MCA. If you know, that was the that 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:29.720 was the mad rush when music was going around like that. 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.240 Motherfucker's had to get them an imitation of what was next. 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.880 They don't give a fuck. That's how that's how these 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.760 labels do. These large companies, they're gonna bite off it. 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.520 Motherfucker Burger king do a triple cheese burger. I guarantee 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.040 you fucking six months later, McDonald's gonna come with it 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:51.000 what they form of the triple cheeseburger with something else 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.960 at it. It's just what motherfuckers do. Yeah, you know 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:58.159 what's real interesting though? Man, it was like, um, there's 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.320 this letter that that's been going around a lot of people. 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.400 They kind of want to dispute the authenticity of this letter, 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.280 but I believe it's very much to be real. I'm 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.760 gonna read it real quick. The secret meeting that changed 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:14.120 rap music and destroy the generation starts software, and I'm 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.120 not gonna read the whole thing. But after more than 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.560 twenty years, I finally decided to tell the world what 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.800 I witnessed nineteen ninety one, which was at the High 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.280 against the rap Kinna, which I believe was one of 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:28.320 the biggest turning point in popular music and ultimately American society. 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:30.760 I've struggled for a long time weighing the pros and 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.760 kinds of making this story public, as I was reluctant 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.439 to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:38.919 I've simply decided to leave our names and all the 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:42.119 details that may risk my personal well being and that 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.639 of those who were like me dragging to something they 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.679 weren't ready for. Between the late eighties and early nineties, 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:49.680 I was what you may call a decision maker, was 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.640 one of the more established companies in the music industry. 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:55.000 I came from Europe in the early eighties and quickly 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.480 established myself in the business. The industry was different back then, 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.680 since technology and media worn't accessible to people like they 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:03.800 are to day. The industry had more control over the 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.000 public and had the means to influence them in any 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:09.160 way of wanting. This may explain why in early ninety one, 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.520 I was invited to attend to close door meeting with 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.480 a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.560 music's new direction. Little did I know that we would 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.080 be asked to participate in one of the most unethical 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:23.879 and destructive business practices I've ever seen. The meeting was 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.840 held of the private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.560 I remember about twenty five or thirty people being there, 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.960 most of them being familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew, 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:34.959 we joked about to the theme of the meeting, as 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:37.399 many of us did not care for rap music and 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:39.480 failed to see the purpose of being invited to a 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:43.320 private gathering to discuss its future. Among the attendees was 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:46.200 a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.800 and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.720 on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn't seem to 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:55.719 be in our industry. Our casual chatter was interrupted when 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:58.760 we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:03.320 from publicly discussing information presented that day. Needless to say, 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:07.439 disintrigue and in some cases, disturbed many of us. The 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.000 agreement was only a page long, but very clear on 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.159 the matter in consequences, which stated that violating the terms 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:17.960 were a resulting job termination. We asked several people what 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.520