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Speaker 1: Chronicles and you got your boy Big eight in the building.
Speaker 1: I'm with the homie Big stealing the house. Man. You
Speaker 1: know what, we got a lot of ship that takes
Speaker 1: on the day. Man, I want to start off with
Speaker 1: this oscar ship. Man, I got a lot to talk
Speaker 1: about that. They Actually, there's a lot of stuff that's
Speaker 1: been pissing me off. Man, how they made the home
Speaker 1: Girl Angel look bastard, just looked like she was the
Speaker 1: biggest hater in the world for her being upset about losing.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the Oscars and shit. I don't think
Speaker 1: I ever watched the motherfucking Oscars, man, to be honest.
Speaker 1: I mean, I watch a good movie and shit, but
Speaker 1: it's just like the Grammys and shit. I've never been
Speaker 1: a big fan of the award shows and shit, even
Speaker 1: down to the ship like BT Awards and ship. I'm
Speaker 1: just not an award show dude. I don't And that's
Speaker 1: not because I don't win shit. So let's get it straight.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm all I'm it's not
Speaker 1: because of that. I'm not what people you know call
Speaker 1: the hater nowadays. I don't give a fuck if you
Speaker 1: win or lose or whatever this shit is. It's good
Speaker 1: for you know, people's careers and give them that extra
Speaker 1: status or whatever. But you know, I'm a nigga from
Speaker 1: Compton born and raised, and you know I like to
Speaker 1: deal with facts about shit, So you know, that's the facts,
Speaker 1: you know what it is. I mean, shout out to
Speaker 1: Kendrick again, Tde you know for the work with a
Speaker 1: good Kid in Mad City. You know, I was on
Speaker 1: the song got nominated for a Grammy, you know. But
Speaker 1: other than that, you know, Um, did you go to
Speaker 1: the celebration? Did you go to the war zone? I went, Um,
Speaker 1: just for the experience. Uh, it was it was a
Speaker 1: it was a bit it was. It was a bit much,
Speaker 1: you know, um, having to do all this shit lining
Speaker 1: up to it. So would I go again? No, Like
Speaker 1: I said before that I'd never you know, watch the
Speaker 1: Grammys or or or the Oscar shit. So um. As
Speaker 1: far as with Angela Bassett is concerned. Um, why it
Speaker 1: was brought up that she was looking like she was hating.
Speaker 1: I know they caught her expression or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's would be really reaching the dog because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, she could have had gas for all we know,
Speaker 1: just not been feeling like being at that. Motherfucker. She
Speaker 1: could have been like this some bullshit. They knew I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna win this. Motherfucking You got me sitting up
Speaker 1: in here looking crazy. I mean, but I don't know,
Speaker 1: like you just said, she probably knew I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: win this ship. Yeah. So but you know, um, when
Speaker 1: you're in that position that you know this Bassett is in,
Speaker 1: you know, you you have to put on that face,
Speaker 1: you know, and you have to appear and show up
Speaker 1: because you're nominated and you know, and people want to
Speaker 1: pump it up like you know, oh yeah you got
Speaker 1: a chance or whatever, and and so, um, I guess
Speaker 1: it was. I don't know would it be a shock
Speaker 1: to anyone that that, you know, And I guess us
Speaker 1: as black people felt like, you know, they got to
Speaker 1: give it to her because of the role she played
Speaker 1: and what she represented. You know. But man, come on, man,
Speaker 1: y'all know how this world works. I mean, if you,
Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you dumb to that shit, man,
Speaker 1: I mean if you just as you know, if you
Speaker 1: as mature as I am, and you've been here for
Speaker 1: a while, man, you know how this You know how
Speaker 1: this game works. It's never changed. So really, you know.
Speaker 1: And then next thing I want to talk about, Man,
Speaker 1: it's our homeboy Charleston. White motherfucker's is Huneck Charleston right now?
Speaker 1: They made the motherfucker Now I heard as tyrant like
Speaker 1: everybody else. Dear right, m Charleston man, you know, me
Speaker 1: and Charleston got history together. Charleston man. You know Digital
Speaker 1: Soapbox was one of the first people man to you know,
Speaker 1: recognize his talents, man, because he do have a lot
Speaker 1: of talent. He's a funny ass dude, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of truth to the ship he's say, whether motherfuckers
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge that part of it or not. He
Speaker 1: tells the truth about a lot of shit, now you
Speaker 1: know what all the other stuff man, You know, he's
Speaker 1: being sarcastic about a lot of stuff, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people, you know, the internet would ever come out
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's mouth, They just believe it to be fact.
Speaker 1: He just really be fucking with a whole bunch of people, right.
Speaker 1: I don't think my man got no intentions on doing
Speaker 1: nothing wrong. But I see Charleston going in on black
Speaker 1: people all the fucking time, right, he goes in on
Speaker 1: black people all time. He goes in on rappers. Charleston
Speaker 1: 's fair motherfucker right, But there ain't no problem of
Speaker 1: long as he's sticking the fucking with niggas, right. But
Speaker 1: the minute he says something about them people lack Cardon
Speaker 1: had a show canceled and all kinds of ship. Where
Speaker 1: was the cancelations that when he was talking about all niggas. Now,
Speaker 1: not that I want the homey shows to get canceled
Speaker 1: or nothing, but I just thought it was all running,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was some shit about it.
Speaker 1: You ain't got no comment about that, look at me.
Speaker 1: I'm just man, Um, I don't know Charleston. I mean
Speaker 1: we had a moment show. Yeah, Um, it seemed like
Speaker 1: when we had him on the show, his approach was different.
Speaker 1: He's a very intelligent motherfucker girl. Yeah, but I don't
Speaker 1: And like I said, I don't have nothing to say
Speaker 1: about because people do what they gotta do. You feel me,
Speaker 1: That's the way the world works. If you get a hustle, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta jump on that hustle. But sometimes
Speaker 1: you know where I come from and what I have
Speaker 1: seen and whatever, as far as it's been from the
Speaker 1: streets or business or dealing with people, you're different, you
Speaker 1: know different, you know, races or whatever. I'm not wanting
Speaker 1: to want to get ahead by controversy. I've never been
Speaker 1: that dude, you know, I guess, because I guess. I'm
Speaker 1: a low key motherfucker and I have never starved for
Speaker 1: success to where I want to live my life in
Speaker 1: jeopardy to achieve success. Um, I get in where I
Speaker 1: fit in. You're getting that. That's that's the way it is.
Speaker 1: And some people, you know, now with with with you know,
Speaker 1: with the internet being so motherfucking popular and social motherfucking media,
Speaker 1: and everybody want to you know, tune in and you
Speaker 1: know the latest controversy is the best and all that
Speaker 1: type of ship. Motherfucker's feed off for that shit. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, to want to to to live
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying, and and and
Speaker 1: and always want to have a U say so and
Speaker 1: people's shit to each his own, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You feel that works for him, Johnston feel that works
Speaker 1: for him. One thing I will say is that fortunately
Speaker 1: in this country, we do have freedom of speak exactly.
Speaker 1: People can say whatever the fun they want. You can
Speaker 1: say what the fuck you want to. People can say
Speaker 1: whatever they want and ain't up to me, you or
Speaker 1: nobody else to impede that, because that's all you know,
Speaker 1: that's all right, And the problem with that is just
Speaker 1: like you can say what you want to, but you
Speaker 1: can't control another motherfucker's actions either. So now it's just
Speaker 1: like you said, a slippery slope, because everybody's not going
Speaker 1: to look at your antics as entertainment or you know
Speaker 1: all this nigga just talking or whatever whatever. Some people
Speaker 1: take shit very seriously, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: thus you might be putting your life in danger. And
Speaker 1: when you when you're ready to walk that route for
Speaker 1: a dollar sign, man, it's it's like, it's it's crazy
Speaker 1: to me. I guess that nigga he down for whatever though,
Speaker 1: is one thing about it? Anybody to ring upon him,
Speaker 1: don't being dealt with, and you don't mind popping at
Speaker 1: the motherfucker. So I guess you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: when you I mean, but you can scream self defense,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If I could talk shit
Speaker 1: to you on the internet all day and social media
Speaker 1: and fuck you this and fuck you that and this
Speaker 1: and that, and then I'm gonna tell you where I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be at, you get me in the minute you
Speaker 1: approached nine when one is being dialed, you get me.
Speaker 1: Or if I feel in danger for my life because
Speaker 1: somebody then poured up. Then you know I'm gonna pop
Speaker 1: out of nigga and claim self defense. You know exactly
Speaker 1: with which my which my nigga do a lot, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He has no problem with with
Speaker 1: call all of the poles or quality authorities or putting
Speaker 1: motherfuckers on blasts for their antics. So and that's the
Speaker 1: way he has built his That's the way he has
Speaker 1: built his his his status. You feel me. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: definitely built his cache. And then and then again, you know,
Speaker 1: like you said, we can we can. You know, we
Speaker 1: can speak on niggas or we can speak on each
Speaker 1: other like it ain't shit, you feel me. We do
Speaker 1: it in records, we do it. And when all kinds
Speaker 1: of beefs jump off, we fight each other, We blast
Speaker 1: at each other. We do all of that. But you
Speaker 1: already know when you take a trip to that other
Speaker 1: side dealing with other races, whether who may it be,
Speaker 1: they feel to come down hard. You feel me, Oh, man,
Speaker 1: they don't play that ship. They go definitely. And one
Speaker 1: thing about about it, though, man meet knowing them cats man,
Speaker 1: they are always kind of prepared for any smoke that comes.
Speaker 1: They wait you see what I'm saying, like like that's
Speaker 1: the life they chose to live, and they're living it.
Speaker 1: More part them, you know what I mean? More potato him. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, before we go into the subject of our show,
Speaker 1: because we are going to talk about you know, a
Speaker 1: rapper to eight some motherfuckers. Yeah, I want to. I
Speaker 1: want to speak on the Oscar ship just one more
Speaker 1: time with Angela. And because I was seeing a lot
Speaker 1: of comments still about um, the situation of how that
Speaker 1: went down. Did you watch you watch? You watched Wakanda, right?
Speaker 1: You watched The New Black Panther, Right? I thought it
Speaker 1: was a great movie. Have you watched the movie with
Speaker 1: the movie that won Best Picture in the movie with
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Curtis. Honestly, I had never heard of it
Speaker 1: until the Oscars came up. I haven't heard I've never
Speaker 1: heard of it. I watched it last night. My take
Speaker 1: on it. And then did you hear that, Um, Tom
Speaker 1: and James Cameron didn't show up to the big you know,
Speaker 1: they have some big ass party or some shit, right,
Speaker 1: so they say them too didn't show up because they
Speaker 1: knew they wasn't gonna win the other movie was gonna
Speaker 1: win Best picture. So I watched the ship. Um, it
Speaker 1: was different. It wasn't what you would take Brian, did
Speaker 1: you see it? Do you see it? So it's got
Speaker 1: the kid you've seen You've seen Raiders of the Loss art,
Speaker 1: I mean not Raiders of the Loss are Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1: So you remember the little Chinese kid from the Indiana
Speaker 1: Jones movies. He's playing the older dude. He's the older
Speaker 1: now he's in the movie. Okay, Um, it's about this.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they I guess say Chinese, about
Speaker 1: Chinese lady her husband. Uh, they run in a line
Speaker 1: dream Matt, and it's it's a comedy. It's it's a
Speaker 1: comedy adventure type of shit. She look boring. I honestly,
Speaker 1: I paused it about five times, and I watched movies.
Speaker 1: You get me. I paused it five times because I
Speaker 1: kept losing interest in it. You give me. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: watching the ship and it's like it's basis a multiverse,
Speaker 1: dimensional shit and different universe, some shit you would think
Speaker 1: you would see in a superhero movie. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to check it out. You have to check it out.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna have to check it up. And
Speaker 1: then I guess what people saying about Angela Bassett. Angela
Speaker 1: plays a lot of strong roles in movies, right she does.
Speaker 1: She plays a lot of strong She plays a lot
Speaker 1: of strong Black female roles, whether she's the assistant to
Speaker 1: the President, whether she's Tina Turner, whether she's the Wakanda Prince,
Speaker 1: you know, queen. She plays those movies, you don't really
Speaker 1: see her And I don't know, maybe that's what she
Speaker 1: demands that, you know what I'm saying, I got to
Speaker 1: play those roles. But when it come to them people
Speaker 1: and how they're looking at it, you already doing what
Speaker 1: you already do. Yeah, And I hate the scream. I
Speaker 1: hate the scream racism, man, But when you're living in
Speaker 1: the country, man, just with the history that the United
Speaker 1: States has for always marginalizing us at any point that
Speaker 1: they can get or always trying to make us look
Speaker 1: like we're crazy. It's just like we talked about last week.
Speaker 1: They said that Homi Sean Kimp did a drive by
Speaker 1: and it really it was just a little small altercation.
Speaker 1: Right then you got the ship with you know, the
Speaker 1: basketball player, with him waving the gun and spending fifty
Speaker 1: thousand in the Strip club which I don't know why
Speaker 1: people feel like that's a fucking business and everybody is
Speaker 1: coming down on his kids, So it seems like we
Speaker 1: are always judged more harshly than other people. They're always
Speaker 1: moving the field goal posts back on us. Definitely, And
Speaker 1: look what in the in the sense of when you
Speaker 1: watch you know, Denza always played great movies, you lead movies,
Speaker 1: but look what he had to do to win an oscar.
Speaker 1: He had even play a nigga from the street selling
Speaker 1: dope and crooked and all that shit corrupting stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's with all the with all the great roles that
Speaker 1: he has had, all the great characters that he's portraying,
Speaker 1: when you got somebody like Denn Ziel or Angela Bassett
Speaker 1: twin your partner your movie and not saying yeah, not
Speaker 1: saying that it's a step down, but it's sort of
Speaker 1: like like, motherfucker, I want you to watch disgrace you
Speaker 1: herself to a level, and then I'll go, fuck it,
Speaker 1: I'll give you you know what I'm because look what
Speaker 1: Holly Berry had to do to get a motherfucking out.
Speaker 1: She had to get a man, She had to get
Speaker 1: a man, a pusson like motherfucker wm wan't you playing
Speaker 1: no strong black motherfucking queen and a motherfucking leader and
Speaker 1: a motherfucking female who was fucking battered and then came
Speaker 1: out of it and stood up. No, we want you
Speaker 1: to do some disgrace for shit or some funny dumb
Speaker 1: shit and then maybe we'll consider it. So that's what
Speaker 1: that's my take on it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They felt like, not like, you know, no disrespect to
Speaker 1: the other actress is you know, Jamie Lee or whatever,
Speaker 1: but like, you know, like the Halloween Lady, you feel
Speaker 1: me like we know her from Michael Myers and shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So her role was kind
Speaker 1: of different, you know, but still it's like if you
Speaker 1: looked at her role and then you compared it to
Speaker 1: what Angela did, and like I said, when they feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't want that represented or something, That's
Speaker 1: how I take it. I don't know if I took
Speaker 1: it as ratio. I just took it like motherfuckers want
Speaker 1: you to put yourself in a different position in that
Speaker 1: in that category, you know what I'm saying. You know what, man,
Speaker 1: do you think the music industry is the same with
Speaker 1: being pressured to make certain kinds of music. Do you think, like,
Speaker 1: because I knew when I was when I had my deal,
Speaker 1: they wanted me to make a certain kind of music,
Speaker 1: and they wanted me to wrap over all the Little
Speaker 1: John shit. I actually I actually winn and met with
Speaker 1: Little John because you know, people know he was standing
Speaker 1: up in Hollywood at the time, and I listened to
Speaker 1: some beats and all I kept hearing was that it
Speaker 1: was the same thing. And I was like, man, we're
Speaker 1: gonna pay. I think at one time, and if you're
Speaker 1: talking about our era still, I think at one time
Speaker 1: the majors started trying to influence what they wanted to,
Speaker 1: you know, fuck with because there was that you remember,
Speaker 1: there was at a point in time where they was like, man,
Speaker 1: we didn't touching none of that street shit no more.
Speaker 1: And so because it happened to me, you know, the
Speaker 1: labels was like I had signed a motherfucking deal with UM.
Speaker 1: I signed them a fucking production deal with Big Beat Atlantic,
Speaker 1: you know, to you know, after I left Epic, you know,
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be a deal production deal, like
Speaker 1: three albums, and then I had two groups I was
Speaker 1: gonna bring over. Everything was good until they was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that gangster ship no more.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, honestly, you know, we can get some
Speaker 1: Timberland beats, we can get some you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: not that you know that that type of music that
Speaker 1: was turning at the point, you know, um, and I
Speaker 1: basically lost the deal because I refused to do shit
Speaker 1: like that, and then basically they didn't want to touch it.
Speaker 1: So it was either like, you do this music or
Speaker 1: we don't want to do the deal. You get me.
Speaker 1: So I think at one point in time it was
Speaker 1: influenced to do certain type of music, especially if they failed,
Speaker 1: it was gonna be lucrative. Right now, I'm anfu, you
Speaker 1: do what the fuck you want to do. Niggas do
Speaker 1: all kinds of music, and if it could get over,
Speaker 1: it get over. You know. I don't think there's too
Speaker 1: many influences by labels now, because let's face it, a
Speaker 1: lot of niggas are their own labels and they do
Speaker 1: what the fuck they want to do, and then the
Speaker 1: majors come along and go, hey, let me get your
Speaker 1: distribution deal or some shit like that. Yeah. I do
Speaker 1: think at one time, though, man, it went to be
Speaker 1: the opposite. You remember, it was a brief period in
Speaker 1: the nineties to where it seemed like every label was
Speaker 1: coming out with it gainst the Repper, like it was
Speaker 1: just Jains the Repper. It was proliferated with just everybody
Speaker 1: was a third. I mean, that's just like the movie companies.
Speaker 1: You see it. You see a movie come out and
Speaker 1: then motherfucking six seven months later, you see a movie
Speaker 1: on the same You know, subject Um Labels was doing
Speaker 1: that ship motherfucker. Oh nigga. If you had you a
Speaker 1: snoop Dog, Oh yeah, we gotta get us a snoop Dog.
Speaker 1: If you had you an MCA, oh we gotta get
Speaker 1: us an MCA. If you know, that was the that
Speaker 1: was the mad rush when music was going around like that.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's had to get them an imitation of what was next.
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck. That's how that's how these
Speaker 1: labels do. These large companies, they're gonna bite off it.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker Burger king do a triple cheese burger. I guarantee
Speaker 1: you fucking six months later, McDonald's gonna come with it
Speaker 1: what they form of the triple cheeseburger with something else
Speaker 1: at it. It's just what motherfuckers do. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what's real interesting though? Man, it was like, um, there's
Speaker 1: this letter that that's been going around a lot of people.
Speaker 1: They kind of want to dispute the authenticity of this letter,
Speaker 1: but I believe it's very much to be real. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna read it real quick. The secret meeting that changed
Speaker 1: rap music and destroy the generation starts software, and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna read the whole thing. But after more than
Speaker 1: twenty years, I finally decided to tell the world what
Speaker 1: I witnessed nineteen ninety one, which was at the High
Speaker 1: against the rap Kinna, which I believe was one of
Speaker 1: the biggest turning point in popular music and ultimately American society.
Speaker 1: I've struggled for a long time weighing the pros and
Speaker 1: kinds of making this story public, as I was reluctant
Speaker 1: to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So
Speaker 1: I've simply decided to leave our names and all the
Speaker 1: details that may risk my personal well being and that
Speaker 1: of those who were like me dragging to something they
Speaker 1: weren't ready for. Between the late eighties and early nineties,
Speaker 1: I was what you may call a decision maker, was
Speaker 1: one of the more established companies in the music industry.
Speaker 1: I came from Europe in the early eighties and quickly
Speaker 1: established myself in the business. The industry was different back then,
Speaker 1: since technology and media worn't accessible to people like they
Speaker 1: are to day. The industry had more control over the
Speaker 1: public and had the means to influence them in any
Speaker 1: way of wanting. This may explain why in early ninety one,
Speaker 1: I was invited to attend to close door meeting with
Speaker 1: a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap
Speaker 1: music's new direction. Little did I know that we would
Speaker 1: be asked to participate in one of the most unethical
Speaker 1: and destructive business practices I've ever seen. The meeting was
Speaker 1: held of the private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I remember about twenty five or thirty people being there,
Speaker 1: most of them being familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew,
Speaker 1: we joked about to the theme of the meeting, as
Speaker 1: many of us did not care for rap music and
Speaker 1: failed to see the purpose of being invited to a
Speaker 1: private gathering to discuss its future. Among the attendees was
Speaker 1: a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves
Speaker 1: and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based
Speaker 1: on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn't seem to
Speaker 1: be in our industry. Our casual chatter was interrupted when
Speaker 1: we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us
Speaker 1: from publicly discussing information presented that day. Needless to say,
Speaker 1: disintrigue and in some cases, disturbed many of us. The
Speaker 1: agreement was only a page long, but very clear on
Speaker 1: the matter in consequences, which stated that violating the terms
Speaker 1: were a resulting job termination. We asked several people what
Speaker 1: this meeting was about and a reason for such secrecy,
Speaker 1: but couldn't find anyone who had answers for us. A
Speaker 1: few people refused to sign a walk out. No one
Speaker 1: stopped him. Always tempted to follow, but curiosity got the
Speaker 1: best of me. A man who was part of the
Speaker 1: unfamiliar group collected the agreements from us quickly after the
Speaker 1: meeting began. One of my industry colleagues, who shall remain nameless,
Speaker 1: thanked us for attending. He then gave the floor to
Speaker 1: a man who only introduced himself by his first name
Speaker 1: and gave no further details about his personal background. I
Speaker 1: think he was the owner of the residence, but it
Speaker 1: was never confirmed. He briefly praised all of us for
Speaker 1: our success where he achieved in our industry, and congratulated
Speaker 1: for being selected as part of the small group of
Speaker 1: decision makers. At this point, I begin to feel slightly
Speaker 1: uncomfortable at the straighten and strangeness of the gathering. The
Speaker 1: subject quickly changed. The speaker one on to tell us
Speaker 1: about the respective companies we represented had invested a very
Speaker 1: profitable industry which could become even more rewarding with our
Speaker 1: active involvement. He explained that the companies we worked for
Speaker 1: had invested millions into the building of privately owned prisons,
Speaker 1: and that our positions of influence in the music industry
Speaker 1: would actually impact the profitability of these investments. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna read the I'm trying to fast forward something.
Speaker 1: You know, basically they had a meeting about rap music,
Speaker 1: right because they're saying that a lot of these companies
Speaker 1: have started investing in prisons. That's when they started making
Speaker 1: prisons private. Think about it. Everything from the phone calls
Speaker 1: right to the food they eat in commissary is usually
Speaker 1: what five so the ten times a normal rate. So
Speaker 1: do you think at one point that the music industry
Speaker 1: actually conspired to create more violent themes and music just
Speaker 1: to give motherfuckers crunk in the street, resulting the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: going to jail. It just sounds like a piece to me,
Speaker 1: because niggas been violent. Niggas just just don't I don't
Speaker 1: assess that to you know, So, I mean, what are
Speaker 1: they saying. What is he actually saying. You're not naming
Speaker 1: no names, You're not saying that we've been no. Of course,
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfucker's invested in private prisons. That ain't
Speaker 1: no that ain't no big That ain't no secret to
Speaker 1: what that you're saying that dudes who worked for record
Speaker 1: labels were investing in prisons. I wouldn't doubt it. If
Speaker 1: you're a big corporate motherfucker, you got investments in all
Speaker 1: kinds of ship. But that would kind of give them
Speaker 1: kind of like a reason to kind of push a
Speaker 1: certain agenda. Yeah, but that's only a that's only a
Speaker 1: certain amount of niggas. Everybody don't rap. You got normal
Speaker 1: niggas who going to prison, who don't rap, So how
Speaker 1: could they agenda to just be about let's push rap music?
Speaker 1: And you know what, I don't think it's so much
Speaker 1: about the rappers going to jail necessarily. But I don't
Speaker 1: like when motherfuckers try to use rapping fall back on
Speaker 1: rapping some shit that like nah, man because I'm an artist,
Speaker 1: so nah. Because I was fucking with Sony for years,
Speaker 1: Sony didn't do shit to influence me to go out
Speaker 1: and make motherfucking songs. If I had beef for the nigga,
Speaker 1: I wanted to make a song about him, period. And
Speaker 1: in my days, they didn't condone this shit. They hated
Speaker 1: that ship. If I went on records, Tammo and then
Speaker 1: I'll finished shoot this nigga or blast up a NIGGAA
Speaker 1: do shit, Sonya tell me in meeting's a man, can
Speaker 1: you go change that or can you do this or
Speaker 1: do that? They didn't want to promote that shit. Now
Speaker 1: nowadays it's different. It's different. When I came up, of
Speaker 1: course we had beefs, but my beefs that I had,
Speaker 1: as far as whatever, it didn't stem from records. It's
Speaker 1: stemmed from me gang banging, that's what it's stemmed from.
Speaker 1: I never had a nigga out of label Goal oh eight.
Speaker 1: Can you make another song about Quick or can you
Speaker 1: do it anothering? No, They would be like, you're sure
Speaker 1: you want to put that on the record. So nowadays, man,
Speaker 1: and I could see a motherfucker writing a story like
Speaker 1: that from nineteen ninety one and now it's twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: And because a gang of niggas is dying behind rap music, Oh,
Speaker 1: we influenced that to build prisons that niggas. Shut the
Speaker 1: fuck up. Your motherfucking ass ain't influenced. They take your
Speaker 1: ass back to Europe and shut the fuck up. You
Speaker 1: know what, man, niggas just got beefs. Niggas don't understand
Speaker 1: it when you come from the street. It's a certain
Speaker 1: life that's lived. Period. Before I even thought about rapping,
Speaker 1: I was game banging. We had beef with them niggas.
Speaker 1: Do you think when I started wrapping them, niggas across
Speaker 1: the street is gonna be like, oh, he's a rapper now,
Speaker 1: then niggas gonna go here a rapper now, Bop bop bop.
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck. That's where beefs come from.
Speaker 1: And if you lived like I grew up, and you
Speaker 1: grew up in Compton, you grew up in Brooklyn, you
Speaker 1: grew up in Brocks. You grew up in Watts, you
Speaker 1: grew up in Chicago, you grew up in Atlanta. Niggas
Speaker 1: had street shit going on, and a lot of niggas
Speaker 1: who started music shit, they already have beef. Even if
Speaker 1: you didn't start the beef. Nigga Molehood had beef with
Speaker 1: these niggas for thirty years. You think because I started rapping,
Speaker 1: now it's gonna change. Nah, And ain't no motherfucker with
Speaker 1: no suit and tie influence me to go beef against
Speaker 1: a nigga. We didn't have beef. You can't influence me
Speaker 1: to go, oh man, can you rap about another? Can
Speaker 1: you make another song about Wonky Won't? No? They do
Speaker 1: it because it's lucrative. Now you get me. Still, it's lucrative.
Speaker 1: It makes a lot. You think I'm gonna tell a
Speaker 1: motherfucker don't rap about a nigga when I know you're
Speaker 1: gonna sell a million records. The beef is gonna be
Speaker 1: and everybody gonna be taking sides, and it's gonna sell
Speaker 1: more motherfucking records for everybody. You got a song talking
Speaker 1: about so and so, we should release that is the
Speaker 1: first City Goals. It's just like it's really just like
Speaker 1: the podcast shit right now, because if I get talking
Speaker 1: about mister potato Head and then it's gonna calls. They've
Speaker 1: used to go up, it's gonna calls or you know
Speaker 1: all that shit. Like like I said, mother fucking it's
Speaker 1: it's what they say nowadays. The content is what creates
Speaker 1: the mone the fucking flow. So I ain't even gotta
Speaker 1: have a fact. All I gotta do is hear a
Speaker 1: story and I'm gonna run with that. Motherfuck But you
Speaker 1: know what the funny, you know, coming back to Charleston White,
Speaker 1: that's what he said one day. Motherfucker's online believe anything.
Speaker 1: So I want to say any thing I don't. They
Speaker 1: don't have to be true. I don't have to have
Speaker 1: a proven fact. I'll let y'all go deal with that.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna be the first to
Speaker 1: put it out there or start it now. Whether it's
Speaker 1: true or not, or whether it's factual, that's not my
Speaker 1: fucking job. My job is just to My job is
Speaker 1: just to get it out there. Yeah, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this. You know, we got a lot of people, man,
Speaker 1: because hip hop has always been a multa cultural thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It was actually, you know,
Speaker 1: suburban white America, the Blue Gangs to wrap up, you
Speaker 1: feel what I mean, they were the ones that wanted
Speaker 1: to hear them stories, right, right? So when do you
Speaker 1: think people cross the line when they participants in our
Speaker 1: culture and they just expect us. Do you think there's
Speaker 1: a certain line that motherfuckers should stayed in check on
Speaker 1: as far as just like you know, being a part
Speaker 1: of black culture and work time, because we got a
Speaker 1: lot of white rappers now not really necessarily white rappers
Speaker 1: don't because they're just as much part of the culture
Speaker 1: as you know, anybody else. They participants. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think the founding Father's a hip hop and vision.
Speaker 1: This just gonna be exclusively for us, you feel what
Speaker 1: I mean? Because they were you know, black people. You know,
Speaker 1: you had Porto regions that was breakdancing, you had something
Speaker 1: everybody that was participants early on. I know, do the
Speaker 1: brothers look at the white people as our culture? Now
Speaker 1: you can look at the Puerto Ricans in the Mexico
Speaker 1: like you said, they was dead with us from the
Speaker 1: beginning breakdancing. What was the white people? Though? When we
Speaker 1: was doing it, there was fans mostly, so it's hard
Speaker 1: to say that they was a part of culture, Ain't
Speaker 1: that with Melly trying to say, yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: to a certain extent. But this is what I think though, Man,
Speaker 1: I think if a motherfucker dope, he dope. True, for
Speaker 1: motherfucker dope, he dope, But that means he's put time
Speaker 1: and on his craft to actually become accepted in this coach.
Speaker 1: You feel what I mean? Because at one point, but
Speaker 1: do you answer this question like you just said, if
Speaker 1: he dope, he dope, But do you feel if he
Speaker 1: dope and a nigga is dope, he gonna get a
Speaker 1: more he gonna get a more shine. He definitely gonna
Speaker 1: get more shined because I'm gonna tell you he's that fair.
Speaker 1: There's dope. It's always a great white hope right right.
Speaker 1: It could be two rappers in the room, both of
Speaker 1: them equally skilled, right, both of them equally skilled. But
Speaker 1: the white boy that may be the rapper is almost
Speaker 1: like an anomaly. He's almost like found a unicorn, Like
Speaker 1: this motherfucker is cold. We finally found us one to
Speaker 1: compete against the rock Kims and they Big Daddy Kings
Speaker 1: and all the other shit, because when you think about it,
Speaker 1: and I'm a fan of Eminem, I like Eminem. I
Speaker 1: think Eminem is one of the greatest rappers of our generation.
Speaker 1: He just ils, you know what I mean. He's a
Speaker 1: bad motherfucker, right. But when Eminem came, I've heard when
Speaker 1: I was working for a music publishing company, one of
Speaker 1: the executive sons told me he said that he feels
Speaker 1: Eminem took hip hop to another level. And I looked
Speaker 1: at him and I said, you young, disrespectful motherfucker. What
Speaker 1: about Public Enemy? What about all these other groups to
Speaker 1: pay the way for this person? I think Eminem would
Speaker 1: agree him with me, you feel what I mean. He
Speaker 1: just put him past everybody and said no. And when
Speaker 1: I told as something about a Chuck D, he said,
Speaker 1: who the fuck is Chuck D? With some washed up wrapper?
Speaker 1: He said, it just like that, And this is a
Speaker 1: kid that from England. It's it's it's unfortunate that we
Speaker 1: made this music and you have a motherfucker like that
Speaker 1: who will say some outland this shit because he's just
Speaker 1: not a fan of Chuck D or you know, he
Speaker 1: doesn't know the history of what rap went through and
Speaker 1: the foundation of what public endemy is trying to represent
Speaker 1: in Chuck D. So you might not be a fan
Speaker 1: of him, you give me. But what I say to
Speaker 1: people like that is sometimes you need to shuck the
Speaker 1: fuck up with your opinion about the foundation of music
Speaker 1: and about certain rappers and oh he's some washed up
Speaker 1: motherfucker and shit like that. I mean, you should never
Speaker 1: fix your mouth to say shit like that, because without
Speaker 1: a person like Chuck D, there would be no fucking
Speaker 1: M and ms. He had to be influenced by a
Speaker 1: motherfucker to be able to write that shit and be
Speaker 1: able to think that he could have a shot. And
Speaker 1: niggas like Chuck D and Mellie Mayo gave us that ship.
Speaker 1: They gave us. You know, niggas handle outs. If you
Speaker 1: as a nigga in the hood selling dope, everybody going
Speaker 1: to jail. You're even to go play no professional football
Speaker 1: or basketball. Nigga in the struggle, you're selling drugs. Whatever
Speaker 1: they gave us out to do something else. Did we
Speaker 1: speak about what we were going through as far as
Speaker 1: motherfucking struggles and motherfucking just growing up in the hood
Speaker 1: and having to go through what we was gonna go
Speaker 1: through anyway, even if we weren't rappers. Get me. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go through some hard ship when you're growing up
Speaker 1: in the ghetto until you find a fucking way out.
Speaker 1: So they gave us that, and I just don't like it,
Speaker 1: like you know, And and again it's your opinion about
Speaker 1: who you like. Everybody has that right. But sometimes I say,
Speaker 1: you need to watch what you say about motherfuckers who
Speaker 1: gave us the motherfucking bricks and seamen to build the
Speaker 1: motherfucking house that rap stands on right now, you feel me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we just got a lot of crazy shit
Speaker 1: going on in hip hop now, man, I see you
Speaker 1: know the Troy Yavkat don't drop them a text stone
Speaker 1: this song after he testified the murder trial. Oh that
Speaker 1: was quick or he had that ready probably probably so dog,
Speaker 1: And I guess he figured he was gonna get some
Speaker 1: motherfucking uh, he was gonna get some looks off of
Speaker 1: it or whatever, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: guess he decided to put out a rap song after this.
Speaker 1: And then it's like this shit is getting out of
Speaker 1: control almost. Man, look back in our day, still rap
Speaker 1: music was good. We had our little shit, you feel me,
Speaker 1: We had our little scraps and square ends at the
Speaker 1: jack the rappers, and you know, we had our little beasts,
Speaker 1: but for most part, you know, niggas was solid. I
Speaker 1: remember the one year exact the rapper Man. You remember
Speaker 1: when you remember when Cuba first broke up from NWA. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was down there with um with Black and uh,
Speaker 1: my boy Black. He used to be a part of
Speaker 1: My Boy Black. Henry used to be a part of
Speaker 1: how can I be down ship as far as putting
Speaker 1: it together and stuff like that. And you know that's
Speaker 1: my big bro DJ podcast because and shout out to
Speaker 1: my homeboy DJ Bobcat, my big bro. So I had
Speaker 1: access to that ship, and I remember seeing I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say too much about it, but I remember seeing
Speaker 1: a former member of the n WA kind of getting
Speaker 1: handled down here. So it used to go down when
Speaker 1: you ran the front, I know it. Those are the
Speaker 1: places where you know, all the labels was. And so
Speaker 1: if you was a hot rap artist or artists at
Speaker 1: the time, you showed up at the conventions and you
Speaker 1: know niggas had beef, it would go down. But then
Speaker 1: you also got a chance to you know, uh mingle
Speaker 1: with some of your favorites and you know, exchange numbers
Speaker 1: and you know ideas and you know, hook up with
Speaker 1: niggas and create songs and so, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: we had it, We had it. You know, our days
Speaker 1: was vicious and rough. Our days was vicious and rough
Speaker 1: as far as you know um our little encounters and shit.
Speaker 1: But today, man, it's just it's it's wild, man. You know,
Speaker 1: it's wild. Like you know, I know niggas getting you know,
Speaker 1: when you live this lifestyle and you representing the streets
Speaker 1: and shit, and you know, you you want to show
Speaker 1: motherfuckers that fuck some rap shit. Nigga. I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not real nigga. But it's crazy now because a
Speaker 1: lot of the shit involves a lot of our musicians
Speaker 1: right now, and a lot of our artists and a
Speaker 1: lot of our young cats. And motherfucker's dying and you know,
Speaker 1: nigga's dying left and right behind, you know, getting killed
Speaker 1: or jacked or it's it's real vicious right now for
Speaker 1: the industry. You know, it's real vicious, man. And uh
Speaker 1: you know, artists really starting to uh imitate life, man.
Speaker 1: And you know, today we were supposed to have a
Speaker 1: big lurch on the show he was supposed to call
Speaker 1: and those that don't know big Lurches Um and trying
Speaker 1: Singleton who when he was on PCP, um he killed
Speaker 1: his roommate, a young lady, her name was Tarnisha Yeses,
Speaker 1: because he thought she had the definitily side of her.
Speaker 1: He was on PCP and Dud was on that Sharn.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know that Sharon been running through the hood
Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah, you know, but apparently man,
Speaker 1: you know, he was on that water Man it was floating.
Speaker 1: He was on that water Dog and U. He never
Speaker 1: became a big mainstream rapper, but he had a few.
Speaker 1: He had a local following. You know. He came from
Speaker 1: the cosmic. The cosmic Yeah, I knew, I knew a
Speaker 1: big lurch um. You know. He came out around the
Speaker 1: time I think I had maybe my second going on
Speaker 1: my third album. Um. I mean he was one of
Speaker 1: those artists around the time, you know, one of the
Speaker 1: you know when you would when you was getting the
Speaker 1: convicts and you was getting a lot of those you know, offsprings.
Speaker 1: He was getting the offsprings. You know, he was one
Speaker 1: of those Um came from the horror core. You know,
Speaker 1: if y'all familiar with that. You know the artists, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of artists. I think e Sham was
Speaker 1: on that too. Yeah, a lot of those was on
Speaker 1: the horror core So he was one of the original
Speaker 1: horror core rappers. Yeah, that's my dude, Brother Lynch. I
Speaker 1: did an album with Brother Lynch. Shout out my nigga,
Speaker 1: brother Lynch Um. So yeah, they was on that horror
Speaker 1: core movement. You know, a different form of hip hop.
Speaker 1: You know, when they spoke of you know, Jeffrey Dahmer
Speaker 1: and and Freddy Krueger and Freddy type of ship was
Speaker 1: serial Killer to a whole different exactly exactly descriptions of violence,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that that that that
Speaker 1: right there is is uh, it is vicious in itself
Speaker 1: because um, when you're smoking PCP and and and you're
Speaker 1: fucking you know, you know, get In is fucking rapping
Speaker 1: about horrorcore and killing and eating motherfuckers, that's like a
Speaker 1: bad mix already his shit, you're already right down shit
Speaker 1: about you don't eat the motherfucker's braid. And then you
Speaker 1: go you go hit a motherfucking wet stick. Your reality
Speaker 1: is for the just become too vicious. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, because he rapped about all this shit.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. We can eventually get him to
Speaker 1: call in the you know, when the motherfucker walked up,
Speaker 1: ain't no tell them what they're going through to get
Speaker 1: to the phone. They might be on. You imagine the
Speaker 1: motherfucker writing raps about you know, cannibalism, and then he
Speaker 1: goes somewhere and hit a wet stick and just think
Speaker 1: all his thoughts already of all this shit he's writing.
Speaker 1: So the mix of the PCP with his thoughts of
Speaker 1: all that shit already, it probably just fucked him off. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: You know. So this is what happened man. You know,
Speaker 1: like on two thousand and two, on round April nineteenth,
Speaker 1: he was with his roommates, just hanging out, right, He
Speaker 1: was with his roommate hanging out with some other people.
Speaker 1: He smoked the wet What he said, he smoked because
Speaker 1: he was in a car accident. I gifts and he
Speaker 1: said the PCP helping with his pain. Dusk new on me.
Speaker 1: I had never heard that before. A lot of people
Speaker 1: go thatt right not you know, saying that they do PCP.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people do alternatives when you know,
Speaker 1: when they accidents or you know, the doctor get the
Speaker 1: prescribe and shit, and it don't work. I mean, because
Speaker 1: that's what he said. They try to give me some shit,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't it wasn't enough. It was so he
Speaker 1: starts smoking that sum so he chilling. Man, they started smoking,
Speaker 1: getting wet, I guess and everything, and he told everybody
Speaker 1: to leave the house except for the twenty one year
Speaker 1: old to Nisia, yes, he got to hallucination. His roommate's
Speaker 1: girlfriend probably got that. So how are you gonna tell
Speaker 1: me to lead? But not my broad And now that's
Speaker 1: what I don't understand. So how you leave your girl?
Speaker 1: Was you? It was he there? Because I don't want
Speaker 1: to maybe maybe he wasn't there, Maybe maybe he was
Speaker 1: at work or something. That that's what I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask him when we talked to him. Right, But apparently
Speaker 1: they sitting in there, man whatever, and he thought the
Speaker 1: devil was inside her. So he attacked the girl and
Speaker 1: literally you know, stabbed during eider. Yeah you say he
Speaker 1: cut her, you know, did some vicious shit, and I ain't.
Speaker 1: We don't speak on it, you know, for you know,
Speaker 1: even though it happened a long time ago, we ain't
Speaker 1: gonna go in the description of what he did for,
Speaker 1: you know, the sake of the family you know, might
Speaker 1: be still around or whatever. So yeah, but it was
Speaker 1: some It was some horrific shit done to the young lady.
Speaker 1: And like I said, just being off that wet just
Speaker 1: in itself, this fuck you up. I mean, I've witnessed
Speaker 1: the ship perish from people, you know, from the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: and you know that shit fucked you up, you know,
Speaker 1: and that has to be a nightmare for her people.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen niggas in them, Like they said, they've
Speaker 1: caught his ass running down the street, asshole, and they
Speaker 1: gotta see niggas in the street. They get run it
Speaker 1: in circles, dig an asshole deck. It fulls feed off
Speaker 1: that ship. You know. The crazy part about it though, Man,
Speaker 1: he just took this ship to a level man like
Speaker 1: like like there was he ripped the girl's chest open
Speaker 1: and eight one of our lungs. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We don't We're not don't get the stare you are
Speaker 1: described this nigga. Still, It's just it's crazy to me
Speaker 1: and I was you know da Actually, you know, I
Speaker 1: was really conflicted about doing the actual interview. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: because I mean, we don't want to, you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, for the sake of the young lady, we
Speaker 1: don't want to. You know, people still hear the athletes.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't want to glorify the situation of
Speaker 1: what happened. You know, We've just you know, still you
Speaker 1: know you want to get the inside and talk to
Speaker 1: him and get inside of the story. But still at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, when when when you fucking
Speaker 1: around with with with shit that will put you in
Speaker 1: a state of mind that I have you believe in shit.
Speaker 1: Like like I said, we don't know what he went through. Hey,
Speaker 1: you've already obviously got that shit in your subconsciousness. That's
Speaker 1: all about. That's what I said. I mean to already
Speaker 1: to already have the train of thought, to be able
Speaker 1: to to to write you know, those certain lyrics. And
Speaker 1: like I said, we watch horror movies. You watch horror movies.
Speaker 1: I watch them. I mean, we all watch a good
Speaker 1: motherfucking Friday the thirteenth, or a Scary Halloween or some shit.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's just a different level when
Speaker 1: you know, that's your musical pres friends, you know, to
Speaker 1: rap about just and not saying like, you know, we
Speaker 1: niggas from the streets. And so there have been a
Speaker 1: couple of raps would that have been descriptive about you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of drive buys and a home he
Speaker 1: got shot and killed and whatever. But to indulge in,
Speaker 1: motherfucking you know, I did this and then I I
Speaker 1: slit your throat, and then I chopped your neck off,
Speaker 1: and then you know, just just crazy, just abnormal shit
Speaker 1: is the train of thought in there. You said, you know,
Speaker 1: brother Lynx, Brother Lynx ain't really out there killing babies, No,
Speaker 1: he not really. Brother Lynch has you know, Brother Lynch,
Speaker 1: you know he has and now he's not all about
Speaker 1: you know, you know he's had a couple of songs.
Speaker 1: But shit, the project we did there was none of that.
Speaker 1: Motherfucking Brother Lynch is one of our coldest rappers from
Speaker 1: the Whist. Yeah, you know, he still represents the block too.
Speaker 1: So even though he have a few of those you know,
Speaker 1: in depth tales and descriptive about he'll you know, chop
Speaker 1: up the bloody meat and whatever whatever. You know, he
Speaker 1: still was representing the streets, so he was able to
Speaker 1: curve it a little bit as far as just being
Speaker 1: just a yeah, we gotta get links to come and
Speaker 1: sit down on this motherfucker do Yeah, I have to
Speaker 1: all add him, see what's up? Yeah, Yeah, we gotta
Speaker 1: we gotta hol that link because I think he lived
Speaker 1: down this way now yeah he out this way, So
Speaker 1: it's it's simple. Yeah, we gotta, we gotta definitely fuck
Speaker 1: with Lynks. But you know, the Horror Cored days, man,
Speaker 1: it was one nig gotta listen to because he was
Speaker 1: just entertaining this hell. He told a bunch of crazy
Speaker 1: shit that was Gas and Nipp. Gas and Nipp was
Speaker 1: hard gangs and Nipp came from down South. He was
Speaker 1: on it was the rapper lot camp. Yeah, gainst Nip
Speaker 1: was hard as a motherfucker. But he would say some
Speaker 1: crazy shit like I like I feel like swimming and
Speaker 1: red fists or some shit like that. Yeah, gangster Nipp
Speaker 1: was cold, like I said, but if you was into that,
Speaker 1: I wasn't really into it, but I would listen because
Speaker 1: they had a large five man Horrorcore had a large
Speaker 1: Horrorcore had a large following man, so you know, shout
Speaker 1: out to all shout out to all the horrorcore rapper man.
Speaker 1: You know, dudes out there, man still trying to get
Speaker 1: it in the Yeah, and they took that ship to
Speaker 1: a whole another level, vividly and ship. You know that
Speaker 1: nigga nipped marriage me and your mama getting Mary soon
Speaker 1: after the fucker I'm a killer at the honeymoon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Was it there, nigga. It was a fool.
Speaker 1: But ain't nobody took this ship further than Big Lurch though. Dogs.
Speaker 1: So I can't wait, you know, I can't wait till weak. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was that, that glimpse in this motherfucker's mind. I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I'm pretty sure you know, he's
Speaker 1: had a long time to reflect on it, and you know,
Speaker 1: and once again, you know, uh, we just want to
Speaker 1: send our condolences out to the young lady you know,
Speaker 1: and her family and not to be trying to uh,
Speaker 1: you know, promote what happened. But you know, it's just
Speaker 1: it's just it's just something, you know, as far as
Speaker 1: what we deal with, as far as being you know,
Speaker 1: regular people, there's a side that people, you know that
Speaker 1: they might want they want to know the hardest part
Speaker 1: about this job though, and I don't think the fans
Speaker 1: understand it because see all the people listening to this podcast, man,
Speaker 1: a couple of million people to listen to this podcast though,
Speaker 1: they want to be entertained, right right, So they don't
Speaker 1: know half the time we interview on some of these
Speaker 1: people having conversations with them, in our mind, we maybe
Speaker 1: like this motherfucker's a piece of shit right here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but sometimes that's that's that's what happens though, when, like
Speaker 1: you said, we're doing the show, you know, you have
Speaker 1: to go to certain aspects to where you might not
Speaker 1: even like it yourself, but it's what the people want
Speaker 1: to hear, it's what they tune in for, and like
Speaker 1: you said, they want to be entertained, but they also
Speaker 1: want to be informed. So that's what we try to
Speaker 1: do exactly. Man. You know, we're gonna make that interview
Speaker 1: happy man one day. But it's kind of hard to
Speaker 1: be subjective and shit like that dog without feeling because
Speaker 1: me and you both got daughters, we've both got kids, man,
Speaker 1: and if the motherfucker did something like that one of
Speaker 1: my kids, I don't think he'd have made it to
Speaker 1: the jail. Yeah, you gotta watch it just been there,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been no quick shit either, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Just you know, I mean it's hard
Speaker 1: to stay in tune and in depth and keep ties
Speaker 1: on your people. But you know, try to keep ties
Speaker 1: on your people, man. You know, see where they at,
Speaker 1: the asks, where they at, Hit them up, call them up,
Speaker 1: make sure they're straight, they're safe, they're good, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know one thing about it though, man, this
Speaker 1: is the one disclaimer I want to put out their
Speaker 1: dog for shit. In this era to day, man, people
Speaker 1: seem like they can. People seem like they can go
Speaker 1: online and they have like um, like the Internet protection
Speaker 1: or something. They can say whatever they want to adventure.
Speaker 1: You had to come on the streets, right. Um. I
Speaker 1: just found out man, that Charleston White got pulled over
Speaker 1: about the FBI. You know, but again this happens after
Speaker 1: he threatened a bunch of Asian people, right, you know,
Speaker 1: and it seems like it's black people. Man. We just
Speaker 1: way more accepting the bullshit. Dog a motherfucker say whatever
Speaker 1: they want to do to us, and nobody's gonna come
Speaker 1: to our rescue. Like, um, they didn't have no issue
Speaker 1: with it when he said he was gonna do something
Speaker 1: to math off his daughter. He was gonna kill Ta's
Speaker 1: son or whatever. It wasn't no issue, It wasn't no issue.
Speaker 1: But the moment he said this stuff about the Asian people,
Speaker 1: now the FBI is involved and all kinds of other
Speaker 1: ship they go to canceling shows this is just like, man,
Speaker 1: we have just been marginal lines of people to the
Speaker 1: point to where we almost don't even matter no more.
Speaker 1: Motherfuckers can do or say whatever, and we do each
Speaker 1: other so bad. Why the fuck should somebody else respect us?
Speaker 1: And that's why, because we don't give each other that respect,
Speaker 1: and so it's not as it's not as important. If
Speaker 1: it's not as important to us, then why should it
Speaker 1: be to somebody else. I mean, if it's not, if
Speaker 1: it's not as important for you to say that, you know,
Speaker 1: or think of some some shit like or I'm gonna
Speaker 1: kill your kids or some shit like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't funk around and say that to no mouf
Speaker 1: you get me outside of your race. You ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do that because a person gonna call the police on
Speaker 1: you and then you're gonna be in jail for death.
Speaker 1: But I guess on our aspect. We always feel like
Speaker 1: when you had that streat mentality, Yeah, come on, I
Speaker 1: like to because I'm gonna I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go call the FEDS. I'm not gonna go call
Speaker 1: the police. I'm not gonna we as a black we
Speaker 1: as a black man or woman or people our metal
Speaker 1: ally from the is I wish you would try it.
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta call no police. I ain't gotta call
Speaker 1: no motherfucking whatever whatever. I want you to try to
Speaker 1: come and kill my kids and see what. So that's
Speaker 1: the intake of what the outside people look at. I
Speaker 1: don't know. We ain't got to worry about it because
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna even call us. They they're not gonna
Speaker 1: do nothing but check this out. That's the problem though, eight,
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna take you this. Ain't nobody gonna put
Speaker 1: a hand on Charleston White. You know why, because he's
Speaker 1: already told everybody. I can say what the fuck I
Speaker 1: want to And if you come at me talking that bullshit,
Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot the shit out of your ass.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get locked up because I'm putting a restrain
Speaker 1: Nord on your punk ass and if you come over
Speaker 1: here with that bullshit, I'm gonna shoot the shit out
Speaker 1: of your ass. So everybody's kind like, oh, he's gonna
Speaker 1: call the police because we've said that, see what the
Speaker 1: problem he was with black people. We've put the code
Speaker 1: of the gangster in the underworld on two regular people,
Speaker 1: regular civilian people like I don't belong with no motherfucking game,
Speaker 1: never have. So tell chnically what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: If a motherfucker is threatening you, you are supposed to
Speaker 1: make a report with the police department or whatever. In
Speaker 1: case you got to smoke this motherfucker, you want to
Speaker 1: ask some documentation, because as you're doing California, you just
Speaker 1: can't shoot the motherfucker. Yeah, but that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go call the police. You come threatening them,
Speaker 1: they're gonna go call the police. Yeah, you go go
Speaker 1: acting like you're gonna do something to somebody else, they
Speaker 1: gonna call the police and take a report and whatever.
Speaker 1: We No, I ain't gonna go call the police. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna shoot. You'll ask myself. You know, you gonna shoot yourself.
Speaker 1: You can shoot them yourself, and you can probably wind
Speaker 1: up doing some time because they gonna say, well, why
Speaker 1: don't you shoot this man? He threatened me, Well, why
Speaker 1: didn't you make a report? How can we didn't know
Speaker 1: about that? Ain't the cold That ain't the street code.
Speaker 1: That ain't the nigga colde, That ain't the hood code.
Speaker 1: I ain't ain't gonna no motherfucker well or kids shit,
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you about the incident that happened
Speaker 1: to me. Right, And this goes sound like I'm being
Speaker 1: petty as a motherfucker. One day I go to this
Speaker 1: donut shop. Now, keep but mind, I haven't been going
Speaker 1: this donuts shop since about eighteen years, right, I ain't
Speaker 1: never paid too much attention to people are going that
Speaker 1: mother forget what I want to bear. I going there
Speaker 1: one day and I asked the girl, Hey, can you
Speaker 1: put this in the marketway for a few seconds? She
Speaker 1: tells me, no, this is not a restaurant. You want
Speaker 1: your donuts cook, you gotta take me. I'm like, are
Speaker 1: you for real? Right now? Because I'm one of your customers.
Speaker 1: She say, either you buy or you get the fuck out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like the motherfucker. I'm mad. I say, fuck your
Speaker 1: donuts and I leave right And I tell my kids,
Speaker 1: if any of you want to y'all go up to
Speaker 1: that motherfucker, I might as well change your last man. Right.
Speaker 1: So my daughter says, Dad, you probably went in there
Speaker 1: with an attitude. Cool. My daughter goes and then she
Speaker 1: in there for about ten minutes. I'm wondering what the
Speaker 1: fuck is she doing. She come back out mad and
Speaker 1: the motherfucker she said, Now, your dad sent you in
Speaker 1: to fight me. Yeah, you get out too. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know what's upped. But you know what the problem was. Hey,
Speaker 1: as black people until it happened to us, we don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck if you go to a store and
Speaker 1: getting mistreated. If you want to a McDonald's down the
Speaker 1: road and they told you get your black ass audio,
Speaker 1: you went online and say, look this McDonald's. That's a
Speaker 1: motherfucking East Hollywood, North Hollywood or whatever like that, it's racist.
Speaker 1: You know what a nigga gonna say when he's hungry, man,
Speaker 1: shit ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal mob up in there. We don't support shit.
Speaker 1: We spend more money in this country than any other
Speaker 1: fucking people. Black Black America spends more cash because we
Speaker 1: like we like us some ship. Yeah, that's what we do.
Speaker 1: So we don't give a fuck about boycott and shit.
Speaker 1: If a motherfucker said Popeyes racist as a motherfucker, you
Speaker 1: can have a You could probably have a few thousand
Speaker 1: people to say we're not fucking with Popeyes no more
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have niggas gonna fuck you figuring that
Speaker 1: pop Eyes good as a Motherfuckna get me some up
Speaker 1: right now. It's the same thing as the movie. Remember
Speaker 1: where was the ship do the right thing back in
Speaker 1: the day? Sales pizza? Yeah, I didn't watch that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they had to come to a thing in the movie,
Speaker 1: a fictional pizza Rea called sales pizza. One of the
Speaker 1: sounds got mad and called a motherfucker nigga. Right, they
Speaker 1: went back, we boycotting sALS pizza. He called it on me,
Speaker 1: a nigga, Man, you tripping. I grew up on for sales.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get me a slice right fucking now,
Speaker 1: because as black people, we don't value our salves. Man,
Speaker 1: you got motherfucker's um you got I think, man, since
Speaker 1: I've been working on the internet, man, I've received more
Speaker 1: threats from motherfucker's I don't know from mckinna paint any
Speaker 1: other time. You just open up your inbox. Fuck you know,
Speaker 1: m Yeah, I'm gonna bush your head open. And you're
Speaker 1: looking at this motherfucker like little boy. You don't know
Speaker 1: you're about to get your feelings hurtain this motherfucker you
Speaker 1: come up on me. I don't I don't play. I
Speaker 1: try not to pay attention to the ship like that
Speaker 1: because you never see I mean, you never know. You
Speaker 1: get me now. You can't push nothing past a motherfucker
Speaker 1: because you know, you never know. It could be a
Speaker 1: nigga standing right outside the store who said that ship
Speaker 1: and whatever. So I never put nothing past people. But
Speaker 1: I never tried to indulge with motherfuckers who just woke
Speaker 1: up today with fuck you on their brain. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is you get me and I and
Speaker 1: I what I say the ship like that is, hey,
Speaker 1: I will you. You woke up this morning thinking about me?
Speaker 1: So I did something right? Yeah exactly. And then the
Speaker 1: same motherfucker's dog that feel like they can say whatever,
Speaker 1: Like you said, you don't know if it's the motherfucker
Speaker 1: that's the janitory in your building. You don't know if
Speaker 1: it's a motherfucker that's a neighbor yours, or it's just
Speaker 1: a random motherfucker that you don't know, right, It could
Speaker 1: be just really just checking you out and really have
Speaker 1: an issue with you about something you've said or done online. Right,
Speaker 1: And I consider myself to be a real subjective motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I don't have no personal opinion about this ship talking about.
Speaker 1: But i'd be a lot of people most of the time.
Speaker 1: Most of the time, it just be people that don't
Speaker 1: like where you're coming from, and they'll just feel like
Speaker 1: going off, fuck you, fuck you knowing you don't know
Speaker 1: motherfucking from a can of paint. But what people do
Speaker 1: need to know is that we are very much real people.
Speaker 1: I just got my concealed carry permit, so please believe
Speaker 1: I will defend myself to the letter of the law.
Speaker 1: I'm Michael going to break the law, but I will
Speaker 1: defend myself to the letter of the law. And I
Speaker 1: don't even think like that no more, because I used to,
Speaker 1: you know, carry a strap, you know, roll around. You know,
Speaker 1: I got you know, because I would always just be
Speaker 1: like ready for whatever. But but you know, I don't
Speaker 1: go around anymore with the aspect of like yeah, nigga,
Speaker 1: come on with it because I'm already heated and it's
Speaker 1: gonna go down. I don't go about your business, is
Speaker 1: the way I think, because yeah, I don't want to shoot,
Speaker 1: but like I said, I don't like that the fact
Speaker 1: that motherfucker gotta feel like, oh yeah, nigga, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You just better know, Nigga, I'm heated
Speaker 1: and if you come around, you're gonna catch some slugs. Nigga,
Speaker 1: what's your problem with me? You feel me? Like? Why
Speaker 1: am I even addressing that? Because Nigga, I'm too old
Speaker 1: to be thinking like I got to worry about a
Speaker 1: nigga that I know nothing about waiting in the waiting
Speaker 1: in the trenches to attack me for what you go
Speaker 1: about your business? Man. You know, during the whole time
Speaker 1: we've been in this show, after go home to my
Speaker 1: woman and my kids and chill out, eat me some dinner,
Speaker 1: and smoke me some weed and figure out how to
Speaker 1: try to make the next buck. Why am I gonna
Speaker 1: be worried about some nigga talking about fuck you and men?
Speaker 1: If I ever see you, man, you don't don't never
Speaker 1: see me because I ain't gonna be nowhere you gonna
Speaker 1: be exactly. That's how I think, and I think I've
Speaker 1: always been pretty forthrightened the fact that I'm don't belong
Speaker 1: to a gang. I don't have nothing to do with
Speaker 1: no gags. I got a bunch of friends, that's christal.
Speaker 1: I used to gang back. I used to gang bang
Speaker 1: to the fullest and thought, you know, and everything was
Speaker 1: about the hood. And still respect, you know, the homies
Speaker 1: that still there and in the trenches, and I still
Speaker 1: respect everybody who represented the neighborhood and whatever. But I
Speaker 1: don't live like I'm still walking around the block every day.
Speaker 1: You get me, I'm I'm I'm. I'm an older dude
Speaker 1: with with grown kids, you know, who live in their
Speaker 1: life and kid from to go to college. And I'd
Speaker 1: have made it far enough to where you know, I
Speaker 1: got respect for any motherfucker who got respect for me.
Speaker 1: And that gang shit, I don't even I know it's
Speaker 1: blood's out there. I know it's crips, it's Asian gangs,
Speaker 1: it's Mexicans, is everything. I ain't gotta beef with nan
Speaker 1: one of you. Yeah, I just think that it's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to each to each his own because this
Speaker 1: shit go change. Though. Hey, I'm gonna tell you why
Speaker 1: somebody is gonna wind up really getting fucking hurt behind
Speaker 1: his internet shit. I'm telling you it ain't. It hasn't
Speaker 1: happened yet on a major scale. But somebody is gonna
Speaker 1: get hurt behind all this shit though, because you just
Speaker 1: got an era to where motherfuckers think this ship is
Speaker 1: not real or something. Though. No, it's just it's It
Speaker 1: just gives motherfucker's more in depth access to irritate the motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You just gotta learn how to shake that shit, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, it'll be a nigga talking shit to
Speaker 1: you for Africa, you get me, it'd be a nigga
Speaker 1: talking shit to you from motherfucking the moon. You don't
Speaker 1: know niggas hide behind that ship. That's why you can't
Speaker 1: take it seriously. But you can't sleep either, because it's
Speaker 1: some crazy motherfuckers out here. You see it all day,
Speaker 1: niggas walking in the clubs, shooting up motherfuckers, niggas you know,
Speaker 1: shooting at each other on the freeway. You still got
Speaker 1: neighborhood beefs and wrappers from their neighborhoods and they still
Speaker 1: going at it. It's never gonna go away. You just
Speaker 1: gotta learn how to motherfucking accept where you at and
Speaker 1: try to be cordial with motherfuckers even if they from
Speaker 1: the other side or a different race or color or whatever. Yeah, shit,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be doing as a man anyway. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to just motherfucker. We all go through mistakes as youngsters,
Speaker 1: you give it right. We all go through shit as
Speaker 1: young but it was hood shit. It was hood shit, man.
Speaker 1: And when you were friends, how often did y'all tell
Speaker 1: laugh every time we see each other, it's you know,
Speaker 1: everybody him high see you know kk d all anybody. Man.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no beef with nan nigga, That's what
Speaker 1: I say. I went through that transition of gang banging
Speaker 1: and knowing what it had to be the represent the hood,
Speaker 1: and you do for the hood. Fuck it and that nigga.
Speaker 1: If you gotta lose your life, if you got to
Speaker 1: do this, that's what you do because you represent the hood.
Speaker 1: But but as you get mature, man, shit's supposed to change.
Speaker 1: You get me, shit's supposed to change. Man. Just like
Speaker 1: when you know you go to prison, you go do
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years, you're supposed to come home and be changed.
Speaker 1: You get me. You ain't supposed to be fifty sixty
Speaker 1: years old still talking about nigga this and so and
Speaker 1: so and so and so and then jumping in the
Speaker 1: car with the little homies, going to pour drive bys
Speaker 1: and shit like that. You ain't supposed to be. You know.
Speaker 1: You might still got to hustle down, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: but you're supposed to set a different an example for
Speaker 1: the youngsters and show them. Yeah, you know, even though
Speaker 1: I've been life long, I've still made the transition to know,
Speaker 1: I ain't been going grabbing no motherfucking ak to night
Speaker 1: and jump in the car with y'all and going to
Speaker 1: shoot up the niggas around the corner. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: probably cool with some of the niggas. You niggas hate
Speaker 1: you feel me. You just gotta learn the transition. And
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of us hopefully can do coming
Speaker 1: from you know that that that that part of life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, man, everybody takes it so literal like. Even
Speaker 1: with the name of our show, the gainst the Chronicles,
Speaker 1: you know, people thought that the Gangster Chronicles This Coast
Speaker 1: is just chronicle the tales of the crypts bloods and
Speaker 1: motherfucker's in prison. Though. The Gangster Chronicles is about anything
Speaker 1: that's outside of the parameters of normal society, right. We
Speaker 1: chronicle stories. We chronicles you know, you know niggas who
Speaker 1: feel like they og and you know, and when you
Speaker 1: hear gangster, you know nil like you said, niggas going on,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, you know I represented the
Speaker 1: hood or the situation before where niggas represented the hoods
Speaker 1: on the show or whatever. It's not about that. It's
Speaker 1: about being It's about coming from that aspect and being
Speaker 1: able to speak and talking chronicle shit to y'all as
Speaker 1: intelligent niggas from the hood who were once gangsters and
Speaker 1: who can still be intelligent enough to speak to motherfuckers
Speaker 1: and have decent conversations and deal with what's going on
Speaker 1: in today, not just what I did fifteen years ago,
Speaker 1: what I did thirty years ago, and you know twenty
Speaker 1: years ago, nigga, I used to be on the block
Speaker 1: and we used to shoot at these niggas and I
Speaker 1: used to say all this. Now, it's about trying to
Speaker 1: show the transition of where niggas have came from to
Speaker 1: where we're going, and to try to entertain y'all with
Speaker 1: stories and what we have learned and what we see today,
Speaker 1: just our opinion about shit. You feel me, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's what it is. So we got more ship coming,
Speaker 1: We got new mervs coming, so y'all be on the
Speaker 1: look about that. We're about to relaunch the Gangster Chronicles
Speaker 1: podcast website. Man. We actually gotta fucking we gotta fucking
Speaker 1: our own fucking TV network right now. So episodes of
Speaker 1: the Gangster Chronicles, the full episodes to be available on
Speaker 1: Rhyme TV and all that stuff. Man, And don't forget man,
Speaker 1: leave a comment. Man, rate this ship. Man, hit the
Speaker 1: fucking bail. If you're watching this shit on YouTube, and
Speaker 1: you know what eight I think is about time. Man,
Speaker 1: All good things must come to an end. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: out of here. Piece,