WEBVTT - Episode 55: Matt McCarty 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.360 The guys from paying They've kind of shown me how 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:03.880 much the equipment matters. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.000 I just love that I can hit any shot I 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:06.600 kind of want. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.520 We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.680 what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:13.800 Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds Podcast. 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:16.600 I'm Shane Bacon, joined as always by Marty Jerts and Marty. 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.480 There's an argument to be made that our guest today 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.560 is the current best golfer in the world. 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:24.600 I think that's fair to see. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.960 Indeed, indeed, I mean I was thinking the same thing 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:28.840 on my own, Shane. 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.880 Matt McCarty is joining us. Matt McCarty, I think someone 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.360 both Marty and I know pretty i'd say pretty well 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:38.000 better than we know most of the players I think 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.479 that we have on staff. And Matt's a guy who 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:42.360 played some golf with back in the day, and obviously 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.400 the run he's been on on the corn Faery Tour 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.080 has been incredible. Match just picked up his third victory, 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:50.000 became the thirteenth player in Corn Faery Tour history to 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.559 be promoted to the PGA Tour. Matt kind of an 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.760 interesting time to land the promotion, considering you're in kind 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.080 of the final stretch on the corn Ferry Tour and 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.520 obviously now you get get a chance to play in 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.760 the FedEx Fall. But when in that third time, you know, 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.320 were you hoping to be able to go play instantaneously 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:08.039 on the PGA Tour. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:09.959 You kind of happy you get to finish out the season. 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.240 Yeah, it's definitely interesting, and thanks for having me on. 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:16.360 I appreciate the intro. I don't know if I'm exactly 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.600 there yet, but trying to get there on my way, 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.080 so but yeah, it is it is kind of interesting. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.959 I mean even for me too, like it's all kind 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.000 of happened really fast. I mean, all three of these 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:31.560 wins in the last six weeks, and so I think 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.800 now like having a week off and next week off 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.400 as well and trying to kind of, you know, figure 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.959 all that out. Like I've just honestly tried to keep 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:40.880 my head down and keep playing for the last six 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.160 weeks and that's worked out pretty good. But yeah, now 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.119 I got some new options in front of me for sure, 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.120 so kind of, you know, got to figure out what 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.000 I want to do and it's all good decisions. But yeah, definitely. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.080 Maw what is uh Man, Just tell us the story 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.920 of what exactly clicked here in the last last couple 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.360 of months. You know, we've seen some really fun things 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.560 from your statistics, how much you've kind of improved your 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:12.520 driving distance and things in that nature. But what what 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.600 was this journey like here that put you on this 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:15.600 ultimate golf heater. 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.480 Yeah, I mean it's been I think it's been like 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.000 all a lot of things from the last three years 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.960 of honestly like led up to this. But yeah, I 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.320 mean just kind of like early this year was wasn't 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:33.040 playing bad golf necessarily, but just kind of like leaving 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.720 a lot out there, especially like on weekends and Sundays 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.920 and stuff. And you know, to kind of be able 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.080 to put myself in the mix early this year and 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.600 kind of get those experiences under my belt was helpful. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.520 And then to do that more so, you know, over 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.920 this last stretch of the summer as well, and to 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.920 be able to you know, coming up short in Denver 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.680 the week before I won in Springfield was tough. Like 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.400 you know, having a few shot lead going to the 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.560 last round kind of a different situation for me. So 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.600 just like learning how to kind of play, you know, 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.960 with that pressure and everything being on the line with 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:11.960 the tour card and everything has been great. But then 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.560 also after Springfield of like having a little bit more 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.280 freedom and kind of refocusing and going towards that number 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.280 one spot to be able to like continue to play, 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.000 you know, some really high level golf has been really 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.600 satisfying as well, and to kind of show that you know, 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:33.840 this this journey has been like kind of moving towards 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.680 this point. And it wasn't just like one or two 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.960 good weeks, but you know, six or seven now in 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.960 a row has been been really cool to see. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.240 So, yeah, Matt, you mentioned the ascendant and that's you 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.760 know what you mentioned. It's all happened extremely fast. I mean, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.360 you're looking at dates of these tournaments. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.040 This was in July. It doesn't seem like it was 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.360 that long ago. But you have this, the fifty four 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:51.880 hole lead, you. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.920 Shoot seventy five in the final round, and we've mentioned 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.400 it a lot on the broadcast doing some of the 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.800 corn fiery events. But you know, you talked after the 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.040 win the next week about that fine a round, the 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.000 importance of kind of being in the moment, having a 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.760 chance to win, not playing your best. You open the 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.120 very next week shoot sixty five to go on obviously 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:09.760 to win that week for the first time on the 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.840 corn Ferry Tour. What did you take from that week? 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.279 Like what what was learned or earned over the course 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.000 of that eighteen holes when you don't play your best 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.880 golf to be able to flip the switch the very 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:21.240 next week and win for the first time. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.120 Yeah, I mean I think it kind of like lit 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.200 a fire under my ass a little bit going into 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:31.040 the next week. But then also like like I didn't 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.520 really play that bad, Like I had like a few 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.599 kind of like I missed a few shots that really 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.120 cost me, and like honestly just didn't putt very well, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:44.360 but like I didn't play bad enough to shoot a 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.880 seventy five, but like I scored poorly that day, if 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.920 that makes sense. So I think kind of like understanding that, 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.920 you know, it's a process and like you gotta just 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.280 kind of put yourself in those positions and you definitely 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.360 have to like learn how to win. I mean, forget now. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.279 It was like, you know, my sixty eighth or seventieth 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:07.039 event was my first win out here, Like it's it's 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.320 been you know, I've played a lot of golf tournaments 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.760 that on the corn Ferry and you know it's been 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.360 a long time coming, but yeah, all those experiences add 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.680 up for sure. Definitely. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.640 Now do you feel like it was you had something 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:24.040 going on your mechanics that improved or you're putting or 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.080 was it truly just this kind of like hey, mostly 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:31.520 your self belief, your confidence and kind of to go 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.760 along with that question, do you feel like you played 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.960 more aggressively, like at least coming down the stretch, because 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.600 obviously the scores are are pretty low on the Corn 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.600 Ferry Tour, You're making the most birdies of anybody out there. 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.560 How has like your attitude or your approach to like 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.680 those final rounds or your final nine holes that you 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:52.880 know evolved or changed here? 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.520 Yeah, I think it's evolved a lot. I mean my 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.240 first year out, I was kind of happy to make 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.880 cuts and then I'd be in like, you know, tenth 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.240 fifteenth on the weekend and just kind of trying to 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.279 hold on. And then last year it was more so 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.280 kind of pushing towards, you know, getting in the lead 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.960 or close to it, and this year even more so 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:16.479 that like you, I mean, you can have a three 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.679 shot lead going into the weekend out here and shoot 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.200 three under three under and it really doesn't mean it 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:26.360 like you you have to keep going, and yeah, definitely 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.240 like it's it's a big thing of like and learning 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.320 how to how much golf four days is four rounds 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.320 of golf, like how many shots you hit and everything, 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:38.039 like you can allow yourself to make mistakes, but you 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.800 also have to like take advantage of you know, birdie 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.360 and eagle opportunities when they come out here for sure, 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.760 and like being able to play a little bit more 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.359 aggressive and a little bit more free. You know. The 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.599 last four or five weeks after I won in Springfield 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:55.880 has definitely been helpful for that. But yeah, I mean 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.279 it is it is crazy, like you just you got 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.720 to go, you know, learning how to shoot you know, 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.240 seven eight under and do it two or three days 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.120 in a row is a lot different than kind of 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.040 just shooting three or four under and playing some really 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.360 solid golf every day. So well too, So Matt, like. 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.480 Have you and Dev had an opportunity to just kind 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.239 of sit back and just say, this is really sick 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.080 what we're doing right now, because you know, I mean, 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.920 like midsummer, you're a guy not tour bound don't have 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.560 a PGA Tour card. You know, you're you've improved every 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.280 year on the corn Ferry Tour since you started there 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.440 a couple of years ago. But like, if you guys 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.560 had a chance to sit back and go, yo, look 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:32.640 what we're doing right now. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.720 Yeah, I mean, I'm trying not to be too surprised 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:37.640 by it, but I think, okay, it's a little bit, 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.520 you know, but yeah, no, it's been cool. We've had 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.559 some fun, you know, car rides home from the golf 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:49.160 courses last few weeks and just go into it and yeah, 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.840 it's it's it's been really cool to like we've had 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:54.880 our moments, but also like it's been kind of like 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.760 just keep going like every week too, So it's been 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.040 kind of weird, like it's it honestly feels like the 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.520 last few weeks have been just like a blur. Honestly 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.600 a little bit too. But yeah, we've enjoyed it as well. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:07.120 Yeah, Marty. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.680 I sent Matt a text after he won, I think 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.080 it was his second event, and I said, starting to 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:14.840 get the sense you liked this whole winning thing, and 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:16.760 he goes, won't get tired of it, I can tell 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.120 you that much, and that was after that was after 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.520 win number two. And Marty, I mean you watched this, 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.560 you watch players progress and you see improvements and players 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.120 and something that I noticed, Matt, this is the week 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:29.960 you did not win, by the way, but we were 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.720 doing Utah, Marty, and we had Matt in our window 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.760 in the opening round and he hit it pretty good, 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.280 didn't make a lot of puts. I think he shot 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.280 around even part which Marty, as you know on the 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.520 corn Firy Tour, is like shooting seventy six and the 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.679 very next round I think he shot sixty two or 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.760 sixty three. In the next round he shot sixty one. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.560 And that was one of those indicators to me that 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.520 you said it, Matt, seventy two holes is a long time. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:57.200 Four days is a long time, and understanding that even 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.360 eighteen holes where you don't play your best, like the 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.319 next day's new day. And Marty, I'm always interested when 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.920 you see players figuring out pro golf, figuring out golf 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.360 in general, and understanding that one day, don't get that 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.640 frustrated one tournament, it's not that big of a deal. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.040 Like we can find other days, other rounds, other holes 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:15.880 to take advantage. 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.560 And it's part of kind of the whole, you know, 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.240 progressing and learning curve. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.560 Yeah. Absolutely, And I feel like Shane, there's like you know, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.560 when you know you're playing good and mad. I'd love 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.080 to get your thoughts on this. It actually, you know, 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.440 helps your patience level because you know that your good 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.480 stuff's coming out. You know, what what was your attitude 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.560 and how what was your frustration level. Were you super 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.719 frustrated after that first round in Utah or did you 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.280 kind of have this inner confidence, inner belief that you 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:43.800 can get back in there with a low one. 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.760 Yeah, I mean I think it was very similar to 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.920 like the last round in Denver, Like I knew that, 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.920 like I was playing good golf, like you said, and 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.040 just like you have that confidence that you can like 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.120 do it and tomorrow's a new day and just kind 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.680 of like wake up and it. Honestly, it's that mental 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.079 toughness of just kind of shaking it off and moving 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.320 into the next day, but also like having that belief 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:06.920 that you know you can do it and not like 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.760 you know, what's in the past is in the past 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.240 and you can't do anything about it. All you can 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.000 do kind of do is hit the next shot, go 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:15.720 find your ball. And hit it again, you know, Like 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.280 I mean, when it kind of boils down to it, 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.520 it sounds simple and easy. But I think that's kind 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.360 of the way that I've been trying to like think 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.680 about golf, you know, last year and this year even, 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.760 and it's definitely a helpful way to think about it. 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.439 Just hit it as close as you can, try to 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.760 make a putt, and if it doesn't go in, just 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:33.000 hit the next one, you know. 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.560 So yeah, simple, simple, as simple as it comes. Where 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.600 where does that perspective come from, Matt? Is that something 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.240 that you've had your whole life? Is that relatively new 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.640 or you learning that or you working with somebody to 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.320 help in terms of, you know, the mental side of it. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:46.680 Where does the perspective come from? 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.800 Yeah, I mean my dad. Like I grew up playing 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.600 with my dad, you know, at Dobson. Obviously Shane's familiar 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.320 and like so he you know, he he was a 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.160 good golfer as well, so like he kind of taught 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.800 me growing up. And I started working with my swing instructor, 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.800 Dave Williams in Scottsdale, like when I was like twelve 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.920 or thirteen, So like right after I think I beat 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:10.680 my dad for the first time when I was like 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.719 twelve thirteen, and then like a week later he's like, 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.520 all right, we're going to lesson Like you're not gonna 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.400 listen to me anymore, like you think you're better and 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.640 I have already, so uh but yeah, I've been working 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.000 with Dave since I was twelve thirteen. It's been awesome. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.920 And you know, he's honestly like as much of a 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.320 philosopher as he is a golf coach of just like 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.160 you know, I'll be out there, you know, growing up 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.240 and even recently, I'll be out there for you know, 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.679 three hours and we're probably working on golf swing or 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.880 mechanics or something for an hour or that and kind 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.840 of just talking about, you know, how to play tournaments, 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.319 like like what I'm kind of thinking out there and everything. 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.160 And then I've been working with like a mental performance coach, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.360 Jeff beck Becker as well for the last you know, 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.200 three or four years, and he's been super helpful. Are 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.600 kind of like mantra we've developed is be where your 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.199 feet are, so like that's kind of you know, I 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.040 think goes along with just kind of giving each got 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:05.520 each moment as much you know, emphasis and focus as possible, 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.160 and then just kind of going from there, what's in 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.640 the past, don't get too far ahead of yourself, don't 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.960 get too upset on you know, what's happened in the past. 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.680 But yeah, I'm lucky to have, you know, such a 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.400 great family, but also great people around me that have 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.720 been kind of you know, mentors and you know, helped 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.280 me kind of get the best out of myself as well. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.520 So it's awesome, Mat. I want to we have a 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.480 lot in common here listening to you talk. My wife 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.480 actually grew up playing Dobson and played high school golf there. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.960 My aunt Sue was in the first graduating class at 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.520 Santa Clara. I want to hear a little bit about 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.360 your journey. Like you know, I'm always curious about golfers 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.400 who grew up in Arizona. I grew up in Arizona. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.280 There's not a lot, a ton of diversity in the grasses, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.520 not a ton of wind and things of that nature. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.720 Tell us about how you ended up at Santa Clara, 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.920 and then how your game of all there in college 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.960 with with regards to you know, playing in different conditions. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.120 I think that's one of the biggest things Arizona golfers, 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.000 at least for myself, kind of learn when you're when 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:11.040 you're playing college golf. 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.120 Yeah, I mean it was like I think you're familiar, 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.959 but it's you know, I don't think it's tough to 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.120 get recruited coming out of Arizona, Like you kind of 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.679 grow up playing in a dome. I think, like really 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.400 the only thing we kind of learned grass wise is 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.280 how to play off some dormant bermuda and some burns 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.840 stuff in the summer, and then obviously the overseated conditions 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:35.920 are pretty perfect. But yeah, like it was like, I 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.240 you know, I got an opportunity to go to Santa Clara, 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:42.080 Like my dad was a big advocate for that, like 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.360 going somewhere that I know I could play, like have 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.760 a good chance playing all four years, just get a 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.920 lot of reps, get a lot of experience that way. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.280 But as soon as I went up there, I mean 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.560 being able to play golf in the Bay Area, like 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.480 the amount of courses that we went out to, like 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.480 the opportunities that we had up there. And but yeah, 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.640 I was in a I mean qualifying The only event 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.160 college I didn't qualify for was the first one is 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.840 like a week before school started, so basically just flew 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:12.240 up there, started qualifying. I caught like a foggy day 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.280 and in San Francisco for one of those qualifying round, 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.280 was probably shot like an eighty four, and I was like, 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.160 I just have like, how is like a full nine 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.720 iron going like one hundred and five yards right now? 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.680 You know, like just you know, nothing played. No courses 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.040 play longer than those courses do up there on like 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.040 you know, so like a windy or foggy day like that. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.560 So but yeah, and then obviously like kind of the lush, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.840 thick rough up there, but like you know, all those 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.800 kind of experiences over you know, took me probably a 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.640 good year or two to kind of get used to it, 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.120 and then they all kind of add up. And I 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:50.840 think it was helpful though kind of growing up in 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.440 Scottsdale then going up there, like I kind of had 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.920 an idea for like different golf. So like once I 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.680 started traveling professionally, and like you know, we got to 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.720 go to lot of different places in college as well, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.160 but you kind of learned how to you know, play 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.480 on different grasses and stuff. I think I'm still trying 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.200 to figure that out, Like we don't have a ton 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.440 of tournaments on, Like I haven't played a ton of 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.480 golf in Florida and stuff, so some of like the 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.880 Bermuda and that aspect will be a little you know, 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.240 learning curve for me still next year. Some of that. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.760 That grass in the south's a little bit different, but uh, 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.280 but yeah, it's it's been a it's been a lot 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.720 of you know, kind of different experiences, I think, but 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.520 going up there for college was really cool. And to 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.640 be able to, you know, be the one of the 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.000 first person to play on the PGA Tour from Santa 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.360 Clair in a long time is a really cool kind 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.480 of achievement that I wasn't really aware of until you know, 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.320 a few a couple like a month ago, So that 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.160 that is awesome as well. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.360 What was your guys home course up there? What did 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.800 you play? A little rotation of them in the Bay Area. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.720 Yeah, so like San Jose Country Club was kind of 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.920 like our home course when I was there. It's changed 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.880 a little bit, so we practiced out there a lot. 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.560 We'd we went out to Ruby Hill and Pleasanton a lot, 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.680 but they had like us Open local qualifying out there. 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.360 It's a good course. We played court of all every 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.080 Monday pretty much while I was there, which used to 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:12.680 host the Frive. So it was a great, you know, 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:17.080 kind of tournament golf test. But yeah, I mean we'd 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.840 go up, we'd play Olympic Club, we'd play Lake Merced, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.040 we'd go down play in Monterey MPCC spy like you know, 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.040 like we got to play a lot really cool places 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:28.800 and a lot of places that have a lot of 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.360 you know, tournament history as well. So I think kind 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:37.560 of like understanding you know that not every course is 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:42.240 exactly like Scottsdale in February, and like, uh, you know, 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.080 it was a little eye opening, but but good for sure. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.520 So Matt, you just got back from an awesome golf 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:48.960 trip kind of in the midst of this run you've 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:50.640 been on. You just played Pine Valley for the first 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:52.880 time probably what was that two or three weeks ago? 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:54.640 Yeah, how was it? 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:56.880 Yeah it was it was awesome. I mean when we 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:02.320 were uh dos like he you know, he's claimed the 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.920 title of America's guest now so uh. 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.159 Yeah, hey, man got the hats man. I mean I 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.680 said it on the broadcast today. Dude's got a hack 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.080 coection I might be jealous of. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.640 Yeah, he's very proud of it, but yeah, no, it's 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.680 it was really cool. Like, uh, you know, our host 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.679 that we stayed with that week, Fred Price, is an 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.520 awesome guy, so like to have us out it was 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.879 a really special day. And you know, I think like 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:26.920 while we're on the road and playing like a lot 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.280 of tournament golf, like it's nice to have these opportunities 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.760 to go play like some of these awesome golf courses, 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.760 but also to like kind of just play for fun 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.680 on some of these like really cool tracks. And like 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.159 like me and I tell Das all the time, like 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.639 after like a bad week or something like, we'll go 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.440 play somewhere fun, like you know, fall in love with 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.080 the game again, and then we'll be fine, who do 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.880 we tee it up again on Thursday? So I think 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.960 that's definitely helpful as well, just to like, you know, 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.080 we play a lot of serious golf and sometimes it's 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.400 you know, it's fun when you're playing well. Sometimes it's 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.000 tough when you're not, but it's always fun just to 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.120 get out with buddies and play golf. It's like that's 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.760 why you know, we had such a great team at 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.440 Santa Clara. That's why my experience up there was so great, 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.119 you know, there was eight ten of us, and like 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.120 we were all so close. We'd hang out off the course, 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.359 but we'd have fun, like going to practice playing golf 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.359 every day. And like I kind of grew up in 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.080 Scottsdale with buddies like that as well that I played 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.240