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Speaker 1: The guys from paying They've kind of shown me how

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Speaker 2: I just love that I can hit any shot I

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about

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Speaker 3: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.

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Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds Podcast.

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Speaker 4: I'm Shane Bacon, joined as always by Marty Jerts and Marty.

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Speaker 4: There's an argument to be made that our guest today

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair to see.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, I mean I was thinking the same thing

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Speaker 4: Matt McCarty is joining us. Matt McCarty, I think someone

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Speaker 4: both Marty and I know pretty i'd say pretty well

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Speaker 4: the run he's been on on the corn Faery Tour

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Speaker 4: has been incredible. Match just picked up his third victory,

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Speaker 4: be promoted to the PGA Tour. Matt kind of an

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Speaker 4: interesting time to land the promotion, considering you're in kind

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Speaker 2: You kind of happy you get to finish out the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely interesting, and thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the intro. I don't know if I'm exactly

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Speaker 1: so but yeah, it is it is kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: I mean even for me too, like it's all kind

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Speaker 3: Maw what is uh Man, Just tell us the story

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Speaker 3: from your statistics, how much you've kind of improved your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's been I think it's been like

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Speaker 1: And then to do that more so, you know, over

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And I feel like Shane, there's like you know,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of flip flop that way. So where those

435
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Speaker 1: show up in the tournament sometimes might be a little different,

436
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Speaker 1: you know, if it's like a Saturday or Sunday versus

437
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 1: like it being on a third. But I think for

438
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 1: the most party, yeah, it's like over Like I don't know,

439
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 1: I don't like to think about it that much, but

440
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 1: the part I do, like being a lefty and like

441
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Speaker 1: even like with my dad growing up, like he sees

442
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 1: you know, in dev now, like you see shots differently,

443
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Speaker 1: So I think like when you have a cat, like

444
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 1: my dad caddied for me through Q school a lot

445
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 1: of amateur events when I was younger, and like we

446
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,919
Speaker 1: see shots differently, like when we're reading putts, you kind

447
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 1: of if one's breaking away versus towards, you kind of

448
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: like read those a little bit differently. But I think

449
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 1: that is like an interesting level, especially like with dev

450
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 1: out here is like sometimes we'll see something you know,

451
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 1: completely different than each other, and like sometimes it's because

452
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm right, sometimes it's because he's right, but like kind

453
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 1: of having like that different perspective I think, like around

454
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 1: the greens, and like I think like with chip shots,

455
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 1: because like if I'm hitting like a chip that's below

456
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: my feet kind of running away from me, he would

457
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Speaker 1: have it above his He could probably like get more

458
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: height and spin. So it's interesting, like I can't really

459
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: hit that, you know, it's like and then vice versa,

460
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Speaker 1: like maybe I'm seeing like a little bit more aggressive

461
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: of a shot than he is at that moment, So

462
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: I think that's probably more so than like necessarily like

463
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 1: how the whole sets up, but like just kind of

464
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: like different spots you find yourself on the course, like

465
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 1: might be better for a lefty versus aliety kind of depending

466
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Speaker 1: where you're at.

467
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Speaker 4: So, Matt, you spent the off season filling out, I think,

468
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 4: as the term you used, trying to get a little

469
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 4: bit bigger, trying to pick up some distance.

470
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Speaker 2: What'd you do to pick up the distance? Would you?

471
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Speaker 4: And when'd you see it? When did you realize this

472
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 4: is something I need to focus on?

473
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my first year out here, Like I

474
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: kind of noticed that year like I wasn't you know,

475
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,719
Speaker 1: not that I wasn't long enough to like be competitive,

476
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Speaker 1: but it was definitely like a hindrance. So I've made

477
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: that the focus, you know, kind of every year, and

478
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: honestly like moving forward to like especially with just playing

479
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: twenty six events and being on the road so much

480
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: and taking care of your body, your energy levels, like

481
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: I think it all goes hand in hand. But yeah,

482
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Speaker 1: I've been working out with you know, a great place

483
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 1: THHP and Scottsdale, and like they've been super helpful for me,

484
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: but like it's been you know, I was kind of

485
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: like a late bloomer as well, like in terms of

486
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: growing and just height wise and obviously like filling out.

487
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 1: I was always like a skinny kid and stuff. But

488
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: making that more of a priority has been huge. But

489
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Speaker 1: it's and then kind of so gained some distance my

490
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: first my second year, and then probably last offseason probably

491
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: picked up, you know, honestly, like another ten yards and

492
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 1: four or five miles an hour of ball speed, and

493
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Speaker 1: then kind of with uh, you know, with paying kind

494
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: of tinkering around with the technology as well, and like

495
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: I kind of I went through you know a few

496
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 1: different driver heads early this year, and then we finally

497
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Speaker 1: you know, because I'd always played like a ten to

498
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: five because I launched it super low, so I kind

499
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: of need the height. And then also like yep, a

500
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: little bit, I spin it a lot as well, so

501
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: trying to find winded up going you know, the ten

502
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: to five turned down, put some hot melt in the

503
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: face to get some spin down, and then that like

504
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: allowed me to launch it a little higher with some

505
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: less spin. So I think honestly that has been very

506
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: helpful in terms of like the keeping the consistency while

507
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: also like I think you kind of gain the speed

508
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: in the gym, but then you got to figure out

509
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: kind of how to keep hitting it straight with the

510
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: speed kind of with some of the technology stuff as well.

511
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's been huge, Like and I

512
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: didn't grow up like I'm sure she hitting the same way.

513
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: I think like when you grow up a lefty, you

514
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: kind of just play whatever gets put in your hands,

515
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: like you know, like.

516
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: For the first fifteen years. That's exactly right.

517
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: So it's like you just try to figure it out.

518
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: And I've like, you know, obviously, now with being on

519
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: the corn ferry and like with paying and everything, you

520
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to kind of learn more about equipment

521
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: and kind of like what you can do with it.

522
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: So it's it's been more of a learning process with me.

523
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: But they've like you know, obviously been super helpful and

524
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 1: like kind of explaining everything as well, and like not

525
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: like necessarily just handing you something, but like telling you

526
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: what it's supposed to do, what it and then you

527
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: kind of notice it from there and then also feeling

528
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: comfortable with it too, So it's been cool.

529
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Speaker 3: So Matt, you have a G four to thirty LST

530
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: with the Ventus Blue six X I believe tipped about

531
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Speaker 3: an inch. That's a super popular I think build the

532
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: David Bray and our tour reps like to do at

533
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: forty five and a quarter inches ten to five. Do

534
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: you know what hazzle position you have that in?

535
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: It's a degree flat and then I think it's down

536
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: like to like a nine nine or nine eight or

537
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: something now with loft.

538
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so it's probably in the yeah flat little

539
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: minus position, and that allowed you to get your launch

540
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 3: up little hot melt forward LST to get your spin optimized.

541
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: So that's been kind of that. It's fun to hear

542
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 3: you talk about that combination of like gaining speed through

543
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 3: your rob you know, swing speed potential, and then marrying

544
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 3: it up with the driver fit. Such an important thing

545
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: to kind of get those two things working together.

546
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, and yeah, and I have been I've been

547
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: using the stack for you know, a couple of years too.

548
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm not as diligent with it on the road as

549
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: I as I probably should be, but in the off season,

550
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,719
Speaker 1: like it's been very helpful just to kind of like

551
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: I think, like before that, like every time I swim

552
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: faster like I swung super far down, so I kind

553
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: of like, you know, it's like the technology in that

554
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: app like helps you kind of have your normal swing

555
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: and kind of figure out how to make that faster

556
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: versus just swinging like as hard as you possibly can,

557
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: like all the time. Yes, but yeah, matching up like

558
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: the technology and also like the stuff in the gym

559
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: is definitely like an element of it as well too,

560
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: So it's important.

561
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: Man.

562
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 4: I had a question about the rest of your corn

563
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 4: Fairy Tour season because you get this promotion, which obviously

564
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 4: means you could play FedEx Fall on the PGA Tour,

565
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: but you got some events left on the corn Ferry

566
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: Tour and you're atop the points list, and for people

567
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 4: out there they don't follow the corn Fairy Tour closely.

568
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 4: You finish the year number one on the points list,

569
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 4: you get an invite into the players in the US

570
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 4: Open next year on the PGA Tour obviously, and priority

571
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: is crazy.

572
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 2: The priority for number one versus two through thirty is

573
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: very very different. So are you gonna finish out KFT season?

574
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Speaker 2: Are you gonna play early FedEx Fall events? Like what's

575
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: the schedule look like for kind of the rest of

576
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Speaker 2: your year.

577
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's kind of weird because, like I

578
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: guess it's like my decision. So I wasn't really like

579
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: expecting all that, but I've been thinking about it and

580
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: I'll play there's no event during Columbus, I'll play Columbus,

581
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: I'll play French Lick. I'm just like I've been talking

582
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: to like kind of a bunch of players and just

583
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: other people around and stuff of like you know, who knows,

584
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: like basically Nashville or NAPO, like either way, like it's

585
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: a good decision to have.

586
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: I can't.

587
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't have like a solid answer for you yet.

588
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: I hope hopefully I will soon. But yeah, I mean

589
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: like it's all like I kind of just realized, like

590
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, talk to the tour on Monday and they

591
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: kind of like told me what my status was now.

592
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Like you know, I wasn't really sure like with the

593
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: three win promotion in the fall, because I don't think

594
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: it's happened like under the new system yet, so I

595
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, kind of some uncertainty after the wind

596
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: was a little weird. But yeah, I mean it's it's

597
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: it's good, but uh, yeah, I think you know, the

598
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: players the US opened that number one spot, you know

599
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: how important that is. And also like for me, like

600
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: kind of shifting after Springfield to make that my goal

601
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: and obviously you know after the last you know month,

602
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: to be able to put myself in like a really

603
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 1: good position for that is something. So I'm definitely like

604
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: looking forward to kind of finishing out the corn Fair

605
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: season strong, you know, earning those spots and you know,

606
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: kind of making it a little easier on myself next year,

607
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: but also having a lot of like really cool opportunities

608
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: you know for me too, So it'll be fun.

609
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: Now I want to talk a little bit about your

610
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 3: your bag set up, So you go driver three wood

611
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: than seven wood in the four iron, Is that right?

612
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: Yeah? Seven Wood's been a good addition that thing is. Uh,

613
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: it's been pretty pretty lethal for us over the last

614
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: like year and a half. So it's it's been nice

615
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: because I played I always would kind of have like

616
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: a two three iron, never been like a huge hybrid person.

617
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: I used to play like a five wood a lot.

618
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: Is that Yes, you're steep?

619
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: Like, is that is that steepness with the hybrid because

620
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 4: I've always struggled with that as well. I felt like

621
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: I felt like when I came in on top of

622
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 4: the ball, I had a hard time kind of controlling

623
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: the spin with it.

624
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: I always felt like the lofted woods made more sense

625
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: to me.

626
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little steep. I think there's something with just

627
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: like the look of it. I feel like it's so

628
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: easy to turn it over too, like interesting to kind

629
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: of hit like, yeah, I feel like with the seven wood,

630
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: I can kind of just like hold like a high fade.

631
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: And but yeah, it's it's become like a good especially

632
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: for you know out here, like having like a lot

633
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: of really gettable part fives, but being in like you

634
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: know that two thirty to two forty range a lot,

635
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: and like it's been you know, good to have something

636
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: that you know you can hit on the green and

637
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: kind of stop even if it's a little bit firm.

638
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, so it's yeah, it's definitely different. But I've

639
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: I've liked it, and I think it's kind of been

640
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: like a more common club You've seen a lot of

641
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: guys play lately, especially like some of the ping guys

642
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: like a six or like a seven wood, Like you know,

643
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: like it sounds like a little bit like amateurish. I

644
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: guess if that makes sense, but if you've become really

645
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: good with it, it could be like a kind of

646
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: a unique club for you too.

647
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: So so you hit that maybe full somewhere in the

648
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: two forty range, and then what what what type of

649
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: shots can you hit with it? Like if you got

650
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: can you hit it, you know, a high cut in

651
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: there two twenty five or what's your kind of window

652
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: for that seven with Yeah, I mean.

653
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: I can hit it like two twenty five, probably like

654
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: two forty five if I kind of turned it down

655
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: and hit a hot one with it, But kind of

656
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: fills that gap nicely like I've I've always I still

657
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: play the four ten three wood as well, which I

658
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: like because I feel like it can kind I can

659
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: kind of take something off that and hit it like

660
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: two forty five two fifty if I need to as well.

661
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: Like yeah, So I think it's kind of melded that

662
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 1: gap well the seven wood, And I think even like

663
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: with some wind and everything, like I'm able to kind

664
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: of flight it down enough and you can kind of

665
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: hit some different shots with it too. It's just a

666
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: lot more versatile than having like a two or three

667
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: iron in your bag that you can only hit so

668
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: high you know, and yeah, the spin's a little tough.

669
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Marty, I've been messing around with a nine wood lately.

670
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: Do you know this? But I'll tell you this.

671
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 4: I got so so man, I'm official seven wood guy.

672
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: Now I've been I've been on the team seven wood

673
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 4: for last year. Love it, obsessed with it. Marty's now

674
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: got me in the double driver team as well. So

675
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: now I've got I've got the the gamer driver, like

676
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: nine degree driver, you know, and then I've got the

677
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: twelve degree cut down to the three with this is

678
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: all Marty, uh and something.

679
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: I love it.

680
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: It's kind of the baby driver. And then seven wood

681
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: and then Bill built me a nine wood about a

682
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: month ago, and I literally I'm like, I might just

683
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: have like thirteen headcovers at some point, and I'm okay

684
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 4: with it.

685
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: I'm at the point of my life where I'm fine

686
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: with this.

687
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was joking with dB too. I was like,

688
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: we hit the seven wood so well, like we should

689
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: just get a nine wood. We could just four iron,

690
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: no five iron, and then a nine wood instead and

691
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: then go to the six from there or something. And

692
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not kidding any one of us.

693
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: I'm not hitting the nine wood keep Stacking Trophy. It's

694
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: not gonna matter, you know what I mean.

695
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: Does not matter at all.

696
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: Now tell us tell us about your history with a

697
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: center shafted putter. Have you have you always been center shafted?

698
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: Is this kind of new use the center you use

699
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: our our PLD tyme cee which C is for for

700
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: center shaft Your putter has been hot lately? Tell us

701
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: a little bit about rolling the rock.

702
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh so, I switched to center shafted probably

703
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: like just before my fifth year in college, like my

704
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: fifth year COVID year at Santa Clara. Yeah. My first

705
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: one I had was like that hepler C like you know,

706
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: the half dome. Yeah, so I had that, you know,

707
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: for my first year out here as well, and then

708
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: got this PLD at the beginning of the end of

709
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: the year after my first year. So I had it

710
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year last year. So I

711
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: had it now for two years and it's been great.

712
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: But honestly, like I went to the center shafted, I

713
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: think I was just watching golf. I think I was

714
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: watching like Sung j Pud I think, and it was

715
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: just like down the line on like you know, six

716
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: or seven foot he had like probably like just outside

717
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: right edge and it was like right behind it just

718
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: take it back like right, And I was like that

719
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: just like looks like it makes sense, you know, Like

720
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: it's just like it just kind of puts the shaft

721
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: like on the back of the and like, so I

722
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: mean I think for me to like kind of grow

723
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: up playing a mallet and you know, I'd love to

724
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: play a blade, but like I just don't think that's

725
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: the cards for me. Like it just looks nice, you know,

726
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: but I think like the center shafted of just kind

727
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: of being able to still kind of like see the

728
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: face like rotate a little bit better. Like I think

729
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: it's been helpful. And I just like, like I think

730
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: the ball comes off like consistently with pace when you're

731
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: kind of just like all the weights in one spot.

732
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: I guess, I I don't know. I mean, Marty you

733
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: know a lot more about like the technology other than

734
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: I do. But yeah, it's been great, and I think

735
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: it's just it kind of helps me. I think it's

736
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: visually more so than a lot of things of just

737
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: kind of being able to line up in the right

738
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: spots and like kind of being confident of where I'm

739
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: where I'm aimed with that, butter for sure.

740
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 4: Matt, when you think about your career, where does the

741
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 4: match up with you and your dad versus Ashton and

742
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: I and that two man event years ago in Phoenix

743
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: kind of lineup? Like is that a big part of

744
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: who you are today?

745
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: Do you feel like?

746
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think very motivating, you know, to

747
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: kind of see like, uh but yeah, no, I forgot

748
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: about that, honestly.

749
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's a good I played with.

750
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 4: I remember I played with Matt at Dobson probably in

751
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: high school for the first time, and then I remember

752
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: you coming you were a college player at this point,

753
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: and you came back as a college player and it

754
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 4: was like totally different, dude, you know, like game was

755
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: more sharp or fine, like it seemed very easy to you.

756
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: I remember, I think you shot like six seven under

757
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: that day, like super ohum around Dobson, and uh, it

758
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 4: is so funny to watch those progressions right from your

759
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 4: a sixteen seventeen year old kid that's a good player

760
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: to a nineteen twenty year old collegiate kid that's starting

761
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: to understand how to get and then to see you

762
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: now at this point, it just wild those progressions. Do

763
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 4: you look at a current tour player or a past

764
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: tour player as somebody you see yourself in, like in

765
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 4: terms of how they came up, the way they play

766
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 4: the game, how their careers progressed. Like, do you look

767
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 4: at anybody you know? I think kind of Zach Johnson,

768
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 4: like you know, not highly recruited out of high school

769
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: obviously kind of came into his own. Is there a

770
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: player out there that you kind of feel you resemble

771
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 4: in a way.

772
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, like I haven't really thought

773
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: about it like that, but yeah, I mean I guess

774
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: like I've not to like but like almost like you know,

775
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: underestimated a little bit. I think at certain points like

776
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: going into college and then kind of coming out turning

777
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: pro as well of like you know, I made it

778
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: through uh h school like my first fall of doing it,

779
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: but I played in like you know, some state opens

780
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: and mini tours that stuff that summer and like you know,

781
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: didn't have any status. So like I think I've kind of,

782
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: like you know, it's kind of been quickly through some

783
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 1: of that, but I've played you know, at pretty much

784
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: kind of every level and professional you know, golf via

785
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: outside you know, at least a professional golf but yeah,

786
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: so it's like, yeah, you know, Zach Johnson sounds you

787
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: know similar of like even like you know, like home

788
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: kind of talking about like his story and stuff like

789
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: seeing those guys. And I think Xander's kind of said

790
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: some stuff lately to about like you know, how difficult

791
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: it is huge school to get your card, like it's

792
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it is tough. Like so it's

793
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: like I've been grinding for three years and I felt

794
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: like last year like I played some really good golf

795
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: as well, and you know, obviously finished like thirty fifth

796
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: and came up a little bit short, but like it's

797
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: it's not easy and to kind of have you know,

798
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: this whole process, like I guess, you know, obviously just

799
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: getting started in terms of playing the PGA Tour and

800
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: kind of like where I want to be. But to

801
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: have it like payoff in these last six weeks has

802
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: been super satisfying for sure.

803
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: Now you mentioned playing the Mini Tour. Is that one

804
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 3: summer tell us about your your your fifty nine up

805
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: there at the Wyoming Open.

806
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's when I knew that the center

807
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: shafted putter might be the answer for me, Uh yeah.

808
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: I show you a lot about your game.

809
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, no, it's just like kind of like

810
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: super tight, short tree line course and just like I

811
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: think honestly turned at like five under like a good

812
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: day going, but then like eagle ten, thirty to eleven

813
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: and twelve and then I was like, oh damn, like

814
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: I actually you know, it's in the cards. So I

815
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: think it was the first time I had like genuinely

816
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: been on fifty nine watch I think, so to like

817
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: do that the first time was good, but yeah, it

818
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: was weird, Like it was cool. It was like that

819
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: was like one of my probably like my second or

820
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: third professional event honestly, and is like the next day,

821
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: like after shooting fifty nine, I think I had like

822
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: a three or four shot lead. Is like that was

823
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: probably one of the most nervous. It's like you shoot

824
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: like even today and it doesn't matter, you know. It's

825
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: like so it was nice to play well the next

826
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: two days and like win that and kind of like

827
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: get a professional win under my belt because I only

828
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: won one event in college and it was like my

829
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: sophomore year, so you know, and then I won that

830
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 1: obviously a couple like Asher events, you know, mini tour

831
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: stuff in Arizona, but you know, basically that win in college,

832
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: those things, and like I never won like a huge

833
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: am event during the summers like until that corn Ferry

834
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: win in Springfield. You know, it had been you know,

835
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: a couple three years since I've won. So it's I

836
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: think when you go through that, it's like, you know,

837
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: the the belief, like the doubts like come in a

838
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: little bit, but like just to have that and like

839
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: kind of feeding off those back experiences of like some

840
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: of those mini tours stuff and like you know, it's

841
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: like you can kind of go back down there and

842
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: like you know, feed off those experiences but also like

843
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: give you some confidence kind of going into like a

844
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: corn Ferry Tour season too, is useful Like at that

845
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 1: early stage in a professional career, for sure.

846
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 4: Mat can you tell the story of the butterfingers stamping

847
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: on your wedge?

848
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's still.

849
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: There, but yeah, so we uh we got the the

850
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: glide Forge pro wedges, you know, and uh but so

851
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: I We're like on the eighth hole in Sarasota on

852
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: Sunday and like middle of the fairway, like grab my club,

853
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: putting my glove on, you know, standard and just right

854
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: out of my hand right onto the ball. Like ball

855
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: goes like kind of skirting like three yards down the

856
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: fairway to me and me and Dasrich is there like

857
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: kind of like giggling right like it's like, you know,

858
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: everything's kind of with the rules. It's like about intent now,

859
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: so we're like, all right, like that is stupid, like

860
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: cal rules official over. So we're kind of like giggling.

861
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: And then he's like he's like, oh, like you know,

862
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: I tell him what happens. He's like, oh, like you know,

863
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: dev didn't drop the club on it, like the bag

864
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: didn't move. He's like, was their wind? And I'm like, whoa,

865
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: it was wind. I mean there's always some wind, you know,

866
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: but like now I dropped it like so and then

867
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: he's like, all right, so it's a stroke and then

868
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: you move it back so whatever. I mean. We we

869
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: were in like twenty at twenty fifth we actually got

870
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: it up and down made Parlar are three for four,

871
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: I guess, but yeah, so finish and then the the

872
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: ping truck is in the next week in Arlington. For us,

873
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, one of the events of the

874
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: year that they actually have like the full tour truck

875
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: for us. So it's like cool week because we always

876
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: you know, go in it kind of look at all

877
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: the stuff, like what they're doing, if you need anything done.

878
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: So dB comes up to me and he's like, hey,

879
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: like dev handed me your fifty degree, like he said

880
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: something was wrong with it like last week, like it

881
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: wasn't working. And I'm like what, Like I thought it

882
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: was fine, Like I don't know, and so he pulls

883
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: it out. It's just got butter fingers righten on it now,

884
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: So I think I think it's like stuck enough and

885
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: since then and we've hit it well enough that I

886
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: think every fifty degree I have moving forward is going

887
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: to have to have butterfingers on it. But it's been

888
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: something everybody as about. It's kind of like yeah, dos

889
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: thinks it's really funny. Like I mean, I'm okay with

890
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: it at this point, so yeah, but it's cool. It's

891
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: a cool story.

892
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: What's your relationship with the candy butterfingers? Are you into

893
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: it or no? Like, are you Is it a top

894
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: five candy for you?

895
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: Uh? Not top five? But I mean I don't I

896
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: like candy, Like I'll eat whatever so.

897
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll venture like if it's if there's hanging around

898
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: on Halloween, you're gonna have one.

899
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

900
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: I love that.

901
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: Now, what's your what's your favorite course to play in

902
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: Phoenix or Scutstill when when you're in town, what are

903
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: your top maybe two or three favorites.

904
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: In high school? I think Truan Country Club is like

905
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: one of my favorite desert courses honestly, like ever, like

906
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: its really challenging, like fair in the sense of like

907
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: there's kind of places to miss it. It's not super

908
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: tight off the tea, but if you do miss, like

909
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: you really get penalized. I've been lucky enough to kind

910
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: of get out to Silver Leaf a lot. It's always

911
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: a cool experience to be out there, having somebodies out there,

912
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: and like those are fun days. Grew up playing McDowell Mountain,

913
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: which you know, like I think it's like those places

914
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: that like they have memory, Like I still have a

915
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: lot of fun playing Dobson like I like with my

916
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: dad and his buddy, Like I during COVID it was

917
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: like I came home from school, but it's like they

918
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: had like that Friday game out there still is like

919
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: one of the only kind of things like still going

920
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: during COVID is Like I played that like, you know,

921
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: basically every week for you know whatever three or four months,

922
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: and like I think they had me up to like

923
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: a plus eight or plus nine, but after like the

924
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: summer and I was like, I can't play out here anymore.

925
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding donating money. That's It's like you and

926
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: Guyona are like plus ten.

927
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I mean I don't know, Like Papago

928
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: is a great public golf course that kind of grew

929
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: up playing doing like that Monday Skins game and stuff too.

930
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of

931
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: good golf up there for sure, and like now like

932
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: being able to practice and kind of play at TPC

933
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: has been nice, and like it's cool just to kind of,

934
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, play that course a lot more because we'd play,

935
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: like growing up, it'd be like fifteen bucks to walk

936
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: champions across the street like throughout the year, so we'd

937
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: go out there, I mean, play out there at like

938
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: one or two o'clock every day with us, and like

939
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: that was awesome, but like I didn't I honestly hadn't

940
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: really even played stadium until kind of I got my

941
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: corn Freight card. So it's been kind of cool to

942
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: play that course a little bit more too, But yeah,

943
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: it's sweet.

944
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: The stadium, Shane is kind of oddly. It's like Arizonan's

945
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: living here and not going to the Grand Canyon. You know.

946
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 3: It's like a Locals never have played the stadium.

947
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 4: It's it's like you come in, you pay four hundred,

948
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: you play. It's like no Locals is gonna go play it.

949
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 4: They'll play Champs or somewhere else. That's right.

950
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other thing too, It's like four hundred

951
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: and fifty bucks to like, yeah, like so but yeah,

952
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: and it is cool like being out there now for sure.

953
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 4: So so, Matt, I was gonna ask because we kind

954
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: of wrap things up. I mean, you you are headed

955
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 4: to the PGA Tour, You're gonna get a chance to

956
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 4: play in some of the FedEx Fall events and obviously

957
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 4: kind of reset for twenty five and what the schedule

958
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 4: is going to look like when you think about pinch

959
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 4: me moments in your career.

960
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: Let's say you get into the WM this year, you know,

961
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: like you're playing in the Phoenix Open. Where does that

962
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: sit in terms of I was a kid watching this event.

963
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: I've been out watching this event. I got through pro golf,

964
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 2: I went through the corn Ferrareer, I went through many tours.

965
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: Now I'm a PGA Tour player and I'm now a

966
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 2: part of the event. I got a chance to watch.

967
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: Like where where does that fall in terms of things

968
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: you're looking forward to or crazy moments that you know

969
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: are on the horizon.

970
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it'll be unreal, Like I think that's

971
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: kind of like the one like I've had circles of

972
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: playing in. But yeah, like I you know, growing up

973
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: out there, like in high school, we'd literally like you know,

974
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: borderline like sneak in the gate too early to get

975
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: to sixteen like stuff like that. Like in like we

976
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: did the standard bearing there growing up, so like being

977
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: able to like experience that, like walking into sixteen like

978
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: with all those people like inside like you're not playing obviously,

979
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: but you're still like inside kind of feeling the atmosphere.

980
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: So it's like, I mean it's awesome, Like it is cool,

981
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: and it's like to have like so much family and

982
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: friends out there that week and like the support of

983
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: all that will be awesome as well. But yeah, and

984
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: like even like in college, like we went our senior year,

985
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: like there were six of us in the house, all

986
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: on the team, and it was kind of like we

987
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: didn't have a tournament that weekend, so like we always

988
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: kind of did normally in college, I think. So we

989
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: went out there for like two or three days. You know,

990
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: we're all twenty one, twenty two, and we've like we

991
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun out there for you know,

992
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: two or three days as well. So it's like, you

993
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: know that to be playing in it, you know, like

994
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: four or five years after that is kind of cool

995
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: as well. Uh but yeah, that'll it'll be a lot

996
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: of fun. I mean it's it's it's a party, but

997
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: like it's it's like a cool event as well. And

998
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: I think that adds to how difficult that place is

999
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: to win as well, like like sneaky, like you know,

1000
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: if you can kind of like went out I mean

1001
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: you saw it with like you know, kind of Scheffler

1002
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: one of like I don't know if that was his

1003
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: first win or one of them, but like winning out

1004
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: there is like you know kind of you know, if

1005
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: you can kind of handle that pressure in that environment,

1006
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: I think you can play a lot of different places

1007
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: honestly too.

1008
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 3: So that's a really good point.

1009
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, Marty, I was gonna ask you, I mean,

1010
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: somebody that had been obviously to the Phoenix Open a

1011
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 4: whole bunch of times when you play in the event,

1012
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 4: do you walk away at the end of the week

1013
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: not liking golf fans? Like how do you leave? Because

1014
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 4: you've been the fan? You know what I'm saying, Like,

1015
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: you've been the dude that's cheering on the guys. Maybe

1016
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 4: you've had a few beers over the years, Like whatever

1017
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 4: the case may be, What is it like in the

1018
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: ropes as a player seeing everybody being ridiculous, crazy, screaming, yelling,

1019
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 4: all that stuff as a player, like, how do you

1020
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 4: how do you walk away from that event after a

1021
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 4: few days of getting this ridicule?

1022
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: But you know, I got a similar story. You know,

1023
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: I got a similar perspective on his matt because I

1024
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: grew up as a standard bear there when I was

1025
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: like seven, whatever, eight, nine, ten years old, I was

1026
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: a standard bearer and and then having played it, I

1027
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: played it in twenty twenty man I got paired with Victor,

1028
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: which was unbelievable because he got a sponsor exemption and

1029
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: I was a section Championship Section Championship here locally and Shane,

1030
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: it's like this serene there's like a piece out there

1031
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: to being inside the ropes. You know, it's like a

1032
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: serene experience. You got all the buzz happening. And I

1033
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: remember Matt Kevin Stadler gave me some advice. I was

1034
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: playing a few practice rounds with him and he goes, hey,

1035
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: whatever club you think you're gonna hit on sixteen, make

1036
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: it one less, because he's like, you're adrenaline will be

1037
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: pumping like you can't even believe. But and I hit

1038
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: great shots on sixteen, Shane. It's really fun. Like I

1039
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 3: flushed him right at the pin, like to where you

1040
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 3: know you hit a shot Matt, where you're like, oh,

1041
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: that's got a chance to go in. I actually did

1042
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: that both days on sixteen. It got me like my

1043
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 3: heart rates started going really crazy, but it was like

1044
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 3: a sense of calm, Like sixteen wasn't as scary as

1045
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: I thought it'd be.

1046
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: Okay, because there's so.

1047
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 3: Much buzz that it's not like every if everyone, if

1048
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 3: the whole you know, everyone inside sixteen went dead, calm,

1049
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: I think you would be very I would be very scared.

1050
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: But it's like this constant buzz that actually, you know,

1051
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: kind of gave a little sense of calm there. So

1052
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: there's like a serenity to being inside the ropes that

1053
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: week that you know, is it gives It gives you

1054
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: a whole different perspective.

1055
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 4: Crazy, I mean, Matt, I know it's gonna be awesome

1056
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 4: for this upcoming season. We're pumped to follow along Pump

1057
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: to watch you. Obviously appreciate all the time you got.

1058
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 4: You got work left to do this season, so we'll

1059
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 4: be keeping one eye on that. And then obviously when

1060
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: I on the PGA tour schedules, you get into the fall.

1061
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: But congrats on all the success. It's been so cool

1062
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 2: to see.

1063
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 4: Congrats on obviously the summer Ryn and enjoy kind of

1064
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 4: living in post Chicago and Scottsdale. That seems like the

1065
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 4: way to do it. I feel like you're doing it

1066
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 4: the right way right now.

1067
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of nice to turn into like a

1068
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: snowbird myself. You know, you kind of always hated him

1069
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: growing up. But it's a pretty good lifestyle for sure,

1070
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, not too bad. But yeah, thanks guys for

1071
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: having me, and you know, thanks to Ping. Obviously Ping's

1072
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: been awesome for me and I'm grateful for you know,

1073
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: kind of the relationship we have too, So it's it's

1074
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: it's been awesome.

1075
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: That's Matt McCarty, obviously number one on the points list

1076
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 4: and three time winner this season on the Corn Ferry Tour.

1077
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: This is the Ping Proven Grounds Podcast