1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Were you're feeling better. You look like you're removing better. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: So we've seen the time sort of something's going on. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: I know you're not gonna talk about what's going on, 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: but you just look like you're removing better. Uh, I 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: feel good. So I guess as a result from that, 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: I guess it kind of looked better. But thanks draw 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: as a one two punch with me Ezekiel and all 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: two tough. Um, just because they're kind of the same, 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: but at the same time they're different. Um, both are 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: equally explosive. Dynamic running backs can make something smaller nothing 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: into something big. So that you can't say ones fast 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: and home. It's not because I mean that you can 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: see it in both, in the way they run, and 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: you can't say one is more powerful than the other 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: because um, just as how hard zeek runs, I mean Paula, 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean he brings a lot of pop with them too. So, um, 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: they're just you know, really good running backs who are 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: you know do great things in that offensive system? I think, 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: what's the biggest challenge I guess overall with this offense, 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: because you know they can run that receivers take at that, like, 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: what are the challenges here? I've literally just said like 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: like part part of it. I mean, those two guys 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: are um, you know, literally a hand more more than 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: a handful. UM, you know, not just in the system. 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: I mean you give them, give those guys the ball 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: in space. I mean they're they're problem guys. UM. And 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: then you know the guy throwing the ball, UM, you 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: know has a lot of resilience as you can see, 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, coming back from what he went through last year. Man, Um, 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, really respectful for what he's done. UM. And 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's just been great inside the pocket, 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: outside of the pocket, um, you know, you know, making 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: decisions and stuff. And then whenever you go out to 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: the skilled players, UM, you know you can put them 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: up with them or anybody up in the league as 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: far as talent or production or however you want to 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: look at it. So UM, you know they're they're talented, 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, every on each level and each tier on 39 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: their offense. I think how those meetings been laying Uh, 40 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 1: the meetings, bro, meetings Bro. But you know that's that's 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: part of it, man. And I guess you know, not 42 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: everybody understands my context of meetings or whatever. But uh, 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: and it's part of it. It's part of the process 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: in the ground. So, UM, keep my jokes to myself. 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: I got it. Last time we talked to you, besides 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: the meetings, I know you said you wanted to be 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: more impactful and you're still obviously coming back. I mean, 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: did you really feel that in Houston or where do 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: you think you are? Man, Look, I'm not a big 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: I've never been a numbers guy. You go Bay Looking 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: in high school, college, whatever, whatever I'll want to do, Bro, 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: I've never been a numbers guy. Um, I'm gonna do 53 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: whatever I need to do for the team. Um, whether 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: it's not gonna shoo out of laming. Um, I'm supposed 55 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: to have eight or ten tackles a game or have 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: eight sacks, then you know that's what I play on doing. Um. 57 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just gonna do my job. I'm 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: the trash man. I do the I just played football. 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm not a big numbers guy. I never have been. 60 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: So let's just have something to do about that. You 61 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: know how how it's looking. Then, I mean, I'm not 62 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm not a big numbers dude. Yeah, So I didn't 63 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: need to come off as like statistically speaking, just how 64 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: you feel you're impactcause, like you mentioned, you do a 65 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: variety of things that might not show up from just 66 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: being on the field. I mean, I feel I feel good, bro, 67 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: as long as I can do. I'm doing my job 68 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: and I'm putting my teammates in spots. Um, you know, 69 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: whether it's a pick game or making the right stunt 70 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: call um, and then I'm good. Did you say you're 71 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: a trash man? Just doing the hard stuff, man, Um, 72 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: I just didn't. Yeah, just doing the hard stuff bro Um. 73 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm don't never have really being a big newspaper dude 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. But I just just want to do my 75 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: job and win. What's been like having Jamie? Oh? Man, Uh, 76 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: it's like two Judas brouh. I know, I know y'all 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: probably don't even see that side of side of Jamie, 78 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: but uh, he brings a lot of positive energy. Um 79 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: and uh, it's it's great to have him back his work, 80 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: ethic and and just you know, everything he brings. He's 81 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: been a lot more open with us. Actually, yeah, spoke 82 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: to him. It's like a different dude. He already gets 83 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: us to wife. He seems like the same guy to you. Behind. 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: I mean he he's the same dude to me, Um, 85 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: I have maybe y'all should ask him about that, But 86 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad finally starting to see that good you guys, 87 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: Abaly saying prepared for Dak a couple of years ago, um, 88 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: in nineteen, and then he has the injury. Has he 89 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: been Has he been different in terms of his mobility 90 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: at all from what you've seen so far this year? Uh? 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: What do you mean? It's in terms of maybe how 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: willing he is to run or how he moves. No, 93 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: it ain't he there's no like what do you mean, like? 94 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: Does he like is he ginger or doing what do 95 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: you think twice about doing it? Or something like that? 96 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Is he more of a pocket guy now? Because I 97 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: think he'll do whatever it takes. I don't think he's 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: his If he needs to run for a first down, 99 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: I think he'll do it. Um. I think he's called. 100 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: I think he's very confident where he's at. Um. And 101 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: then I think his play definitely shows that. Matthew was 102 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: talking the task about how he's watched you and Kyle 103 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: on tape and kind of take him things from your game. 104 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: Did you do the same when he was at the 105 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: Ravens do you know about him to like I always 106 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: come close with uh with C. J. Mosley, So I 107 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: would always you know, peep peep game on him, and 108 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: it's hard to not not notice, you know, Judean And 109 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: then I h we've played him a handful of times 110 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: in the past couple of years, so, um, you know, 111 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: Coach would always have you know, something to say about 112 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: him or Josh or or what have you. So, um, 113 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, just just really looking at the style of playing, 114 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: his mentality and um, you know, having them here, um 115 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: and just listening to him talk, you can definitely see 116 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, the way that he plays, um, you know, 117 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: and and the way that he prepares and how confident 118 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: is mentality, Um it shows up and how it plays 119 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: on the field. Is that just like a team meeting 120 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: kind of when would Matt come up from Josh and 121 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: Bill in the conversation? Well, yeah, just in like squad 122 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: meetings or whatever. Is playing an offense like the Cowboys 123 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: a good measuring stink of how far the defense when 124 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: we're it's at right now? Um, I'm gonna leave that 125 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: for Bill. Um. Yeah, just at this point year, how 126 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: do you guys feel like, you know, the front end 127 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: is matching up with the back end. What's the communication Like, 128 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: where do you feel like you guys, because that's always 129 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: a process throughout this How do we how do we 130 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: feel like we are? Yeah, like communication wise and making 131 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: sure your front ends and sync with the back end. Um, 132 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: how's that coming among? I feel like that there's been progress. Um. 133 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: Obviously there's always room for improvement. UM. But UM, I 134 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: think having uh said rotation with guys and um starting 135 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: to build that chemistry and stuff that goes a long way. UM. 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: And then even even though you know, um, you know 137 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: me and Kyle and Jamie, some guys have already been 138 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: in the system sometimes, I mean it still takes a 139 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: little bit of time to jail in with lou guys 140 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: with Ap and Dug. But um, we're you know, we're 141 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: all really smart guys. We're all really working really hard. 142 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: So um, and I think you can see them progress 143 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: through the week through each week. But um, you know, 144 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: just something that you know that we're aware of it, 145 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: and you know there's something that you know we're working 146 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: hard on. Do you believe in the idea of having 147 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: kind of a defensive identity and if so, do help 148 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: close Do you feel like you guys are establishing that 149 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: or finding out um now, not right off the top 150 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: of my head or nothing, but I mean, right now, 151 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: at this point I think that UM not speaking for 152 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: everybody on defense. I think everybody at this point. You know, 153 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: we just we're just trying to win. We're trying to 154 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: do whatever. Um. You know, obviously the core values of 155 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, the New England Patriots, you know the fundamentals, um. 156 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: But right now, man, we just we want to be physical, 157 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: we want to get after the quarterback. We want to 158 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: stop the run. I mean, there's there's so many things 159 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: that we want to do, UM, but you know, we 160 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: want to first stop, let stop, don't let the offense score, 161 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: and you know, just get the ball back to our 162 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: to our offense. You know, we like this to stop 163 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: the run. The first thing though, based on what they've 164 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: been able to unlock when they're running it, well, like 165 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: other stuff, giants came two hundred plus yards and then 166 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: we're on the playing action offense. It just seemed like 167 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: there was a lot happening once they got the change 168 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: moving like that. Yeah, I think for every week, you know, 169 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: that's obviously the one thing that you know, always see 170 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: as important as making any offensive wan dimensional. But like 171 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: you said, whenever you have a team like this who 172 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, have play actions and screens and empties and 173 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: you know they have so many different things. So um, 174 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: whenever they have you know, all those all those avenues, UM, 175 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of hard to saw him down. 176 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: And especially whenever you have you know, all those skill players, UM, 177 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: it definitely makes it harder. What do you think about 178 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: the Cowboys growing up? Um? I was a fan back 179 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: in the day. I was a fan back in the 180 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: day growing up. I'm sure at some point everybody kind 181 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: of us. But obviously with you know, with Dion and 182 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, Dexter, Coop and all those guys. UM on defense, 183 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was, I was a fan back then. 184 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Josh said something to us yesterday about the offense. At 185 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: this point of the year, you're starting to figure out, Okay, 186 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: what are we good at? What are we you know, 187 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: what are we maybe not so good at that that 188 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: we need to do less defensively? Do you guys go 189 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: through that same process? Do you feel like through five 190 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: weeks now you kind of know what this group connect 191 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: with you better than than some other things, and maybe 192 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 1: start leaning on on something more than other things. Uh yeah, 193 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: I think that, Uh yeah, I think you know, we're 194 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: aware of that. Um. You know, coach does a good 195 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: job of feeling everybody in and kind of keeping everybody 196 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: humble and actually just you know, self aware. You know 197 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: what we're doing, and you know that there's a couple 198 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: of areas where where we need to improve and there's 199 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: areas where we're good at that we you know, want 200 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: to stay stay that way, so to keep polish on that. So, um, 201 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, every day is a word day you know here, 202 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: So um, you know that's that's never really been a problem. 203 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: So it's just just coming in every day and just 204 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: having the will to execute. Is that always the case? 205 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: Is that always the case? Really in the year for 206 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: you guys, do you feel like you kind of have 207 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: to use the first few weeks of the season to 208 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: kind of there's like a feeling out the process, Like 209 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: the thing we've heard in the Fastest you know, Patriots 210 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: like to use the first few weeks there's like an 211 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: extension of the preseason or we kind of through that 212 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: period now, I mean, I wouldn't I wouldn't. I mean, 213 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: are you saying I don't know if we look at 214 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: look at it that way, I'd go out to win 215 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: every week. I don't know if you say it's an 216 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: extension of the preseason, maybe just in terms of like 217 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: a like a learning process, like a learning about yourself 218 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: process that might be above my pay right, hy before you, 219 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: before you go, any thoughts in the music that's played 220 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: in the locker room these days, Like has it stepped up? 221 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: Oh hey, this guy coming up right now? I don't know, though, 222 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Man Bolden kind of give him more run for his money. 223 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: But but I don't know, you hold it, he'd be 224 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: holding it down, you know, four out of five. But morning, 225 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, bold Bolden gets it all day. You know, 226 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: he bringing in the morning and due lines kind of 227 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, he bringing that Michigan