1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everyone, 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. My 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: guest today is a Hollywood superstar. Her career started when 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: she was a tiny baby, and she has conquered just 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: so many obstacles in her life. She's known for Blue 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Lagoon and Endless Love, her breakout performance as Joey's crazy 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: girlfriend on Friends, which led her to starring in her 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: own sitcom, one of my favorite sitcoms, Suddenly Susan, where 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: she killed it at comedy, and her most recent Netflix movie, 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Mother of the Bride. She is the subject of the 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: documentary Pretty Baby Brookshields, which was a testament to how 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: strong and smart she is, how much she has endured 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: in her long career that has spanned multiple decades. She 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: is a mama, she's an entrepreneur. She's a badass. You guys, 16 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: please welcome Brookshields to the I Choose Me Podcast. Thank 17 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: you for being with. 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Us, Thank you for having me. 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: I'll just jump right in. You've had some incredible highs 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: in this business, but I have to admit, even considering 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: all of that and loves. I love what you are 22 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: doing and saying right now. You are out front helping 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: to knock down these archic stereotypes that we should just 24 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: be put out to pasture after fifty and never seen 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: again after sixty. So you've partnered with GSK to help 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: people thrive at fifty plus. Let's talk about what people 27 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: fifty plus need to be aware of when it comes 28 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: to our health, specifically our immune system. 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: We have to become people have to really take their 30 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: health in their own control and ask their doctors, ask 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 2: their pharmacists about your risk for shingles, and about vaccination. 32 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: There is so much that we are not made aware of, 33 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: and we have to ask, and it's so important that 34 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: we understand the statistics that ninety nine percent of those 35 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: fifty years and older actually already have the virus that 36 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: causes shingles inside their body. Okay, no, not all of 37 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: them are going to get it, but by the same 38 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: token staggering. I didn't know that. I had no idea, 39 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: so when I heard it, I was like good, no good, 40 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: and so I partnered with j's k's Thrive at fifty 41 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: plus campaign because that was the messaging that they really 42 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 2: said to me. Was the most important for them, and 43 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: the idea of really being proactive in this era of 44 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: your life and being your own advocate. You know, a 45 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: million about a million estimated people develop shingles in the 46 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: US just per year, and it's painful and it's terrifying, 47 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: and it's disruptive and it is it. I have a 48 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: friend who had to stop work for two weeks, and 49 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: you know she's going to afford to do that. That 50 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: wasn't you know, And it really read tavoc on her life. 51 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: So to me, it's important in this era. When you 52 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: talked about changing stereotypes. Part of how we do that 53 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: we don't sit and just wait for a narrative to change. 54 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: We start speaking about ourselves differently. We stop using words 55 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: like aging or anti aging or dry or all these words. 56 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: I'm so synonymous with just being female over forty. Practically 57 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: I'm fifty nine, So you know this is I'm definitely 58 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: in the in the and according to you know, the stereotype, 59 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: I got one foot in the grave. And that messaging 60 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: was I don't want my daughters, and you have three daughters, 61 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: right I do. Baby girls are always going to be your 62 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 2: baby girls. Yes, I have a baby eighteen year old 63 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: and a baby twenty one year old, and I want 64 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: them to know that this is not the big scary 65 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: era of age. But we are armed with many positive things, 66 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: many progressive ways that we can own our health, own 67 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: our lives, and take a power that we are. The 68 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: messages that we're not, we no longer have it, and 69 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: I don't even think about taking it back. I just 70 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: think about revealing it even more. 71 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: I heard you in an interview once say that you 72 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: didn't feel fully in your body until you were in 73 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: your forties. And I know that feeling firsthand. And I 74 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: also know all that it takes to get to that 75 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: kind of self discovery when you grow up in the 76 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: business that we have grown up in and when you 77 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: just want so much to be confident in just being you. 78 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: Why did it take us so long to grow up 79 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: and to truly love and value ourselves? 80 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, we're in a ridiculously demigrating and 81 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: deridict being I can't even say the word industry. So 82 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: first of all, our whole industry is based on comparison 83 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: to look like that, or you're not enough of this, 84 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: so you're not. That's just all about that it's negative 85 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: and it gets drilled into us from a very young age. 86 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: The thing that's amazing to me is this is every 87 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: woman's flight. Really ours is played out on this ridiculous stage, 88 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: and that comes with its own challenges. But it took 89 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: me until I was pregnant. Actually, as being pregnant, my 90 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: body finally had a purpose aside from looking a certain 91 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: way or being a certain standard or fitting into something 92 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: or looking like so and so and so. That was 93 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: a really important right of passage for me. And then 94 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: just it started when I was forty. I just started 95 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: to realize that I could do things on my own terms, 96 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: that I didn't have to first go through the checklist 97 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: of making sure I was being a good girl or 98 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: that everybody was going to like me. I went I 99 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: started shifting the way I asked myself questions. And to me, 100 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: that was the first step towards you know, again we 101 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: say love our bodies. Well, there's stuff that's hang in 102 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: a lot lower now that I wish wasn't. I wish 103 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it when it was higher, but I did 104 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: not enjoy it when it was all in its perky place. 105 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: And you know, I feel bad about that because I 106 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: wasted some time for myself. 107 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, you wasted all that time loving yourself. 108 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then you start to really see yourself as 109 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: a whole, not as your waste size, or as a 110 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: healthy person, as someone who is not afraid to take 111 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: their their health and their own on their own terms 112 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: and ask questions. Ask their doctors, ask their pharmacist. You 113 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: can ask your pharmacist about everything from your risk for shingles, 114 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: about vaccination, about anything. This is the period of time 115 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: when we need to really self advocate. 116 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: I love that, and that's so true. I've always had 117 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: a real level of respect for you, and I see you, 118 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: and I see how you are someone who has always 119 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: appeared I don't know if this is the case, but 120 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: you always appeared to have had a sense of yourself, 121 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: even during times in your early life when maybe you 122 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of agency over what was happening. 123 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: You didn't only survive, you excelled, and you had to 124 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: protect yourself. You had to protect your mother, then you 125 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: had to protect yourself some more than you had to 126 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: protect your girls. It takes someone who really understands who 127 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: they are to be able to protect like that, and 128 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: that is something when I see you, and when I 129 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: think of you, that's what I think of. 130 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: Thank you on that is absolutely lovely and beautiful. I 131 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: don't know how, but maybe it was because I started 132 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: so young and my mother kept me away from so 133 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: much of the industry, and I went to all regular 134 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: grade schools and schools and high schools and college and 135 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: all of that with just kids who were not in 136 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: the entertainment industry. I don't know. I think that did 137 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: have a positive effect on me. I think I somehow 138 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: learned at an early age that I didn't want them 139 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: to win, and weakness would allow them to win, and 140 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: so I sort of had to fake it till I 141 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: made it because I would think, oh, no, I'm not 142 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: going to I'm not going to let you. Whether whether 143 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: I was terrified in betwe inside or not, I didn't 144 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: want to let them know, and I didn't want to 145 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: let them get the best of me. And I think 146 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 2: that I was so stubborn like that, even just as 147 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: a little girl, and I had to protect my mother. 148 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: Like you said, when you have to protect your mom, 149 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: it's almost as all bets are off, even in a 150 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: different way than your children. I mean, I'd kill for 151 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: my children but there's something about protecting your mother source 152 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: that causes you to have to be really creative in 153 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: how you stay strong and really creative and how you 154 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: keep your feet planted. And I started ferreting out things 155 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: that I knew people couldn't take away from me. Education, 156 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: my really close friends from high school, those little things 157 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: that were like my checkpoints to know that whenever I 158 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: saw the craziness or the bad behavior that was I 159 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: would say, that's all right, this is my home. And 160 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: I think I think I was really lucky that I 161 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: practiced that growing up, and over time the sense of 162 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: self materialized. It didn't take It wasn't easy, you know, 163 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: it happened mentally through university or according to the way 164 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: I would process information. You know, we're not taught to 165 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 2: have opinions when we're nobody really asks us what we 166 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: feel or think about something, whether it's a roll or 167 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: a part or something. You know, you know this better 168 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: than anybody, and so you get so used to not 169 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: having a voice that it's kind of comfortable. It's familiar, 170 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: you know, And so finding that I had my own 171 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: intelligence was a revelation. Then finding out that I had 172 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: this body that would do something extraordinary, like have babies 173 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: was like I couldn't believe my luck, you know, And 174 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: I think just over time, you have to fight for it. 175 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: And I don't know, I think I never even wanted 176 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: to take drugs because I didn't want to be unaware, 177 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: because I needed to be at the ready all time 178 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: something comes at you here, you're ready for it, you know. 179 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a hell of a way to have childhood, 180 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: but eventually, you know. 181 00:11:52,640 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: Becoming natural right. Your work ethic and your drive also 182 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: inspired me in my career and in my personal life. 183 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: And I just kind of want to ask you what 184 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: motivates you to keep reinventing yourself time and time again, 185 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: because I know for me that's what it is. Like 186 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I look back now and I say, oh, there, that's 187 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: where I was at a certain point in my life. 188 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: But somehow, by the grace of whatever, I managed to 189 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: turn that into something else, then something else, and then 190 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: something else, until here we are. 191 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: Rejection failure. 192 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: And not wanting them you said before, not wanting them 193 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: to win. 194 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, you get enough of that, which 195 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: is all the time you start thinking, Okay, well I 196 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: can just sit here and stay in that place, or 197 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: I can pivot enough to stay creative, but keep moving through. 198 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: You know, you can argue whether it's forward or not. 199 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: You know, who knows. But there's this pivot. You know, 200 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: out of college I couldn't get it, couldn't get a 201 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: film job or a TV job. And I was like 202 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: twenty pounds every year, bad haircut, and I was no 203 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: longer the Brookshields that went into the university and I 204 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: all of a sudden I came out and thought they 205 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: were gonna like me because I was an educated actress 206 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: and we know how Hollywood likes smart actresses. And I thought, oh, oh, oh, okay, 207 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: well what can I do? And it became you know, 208 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: can I write? Can I does theater open up for me? 209 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: Does TV open up for me? Because I wasn't in 210 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: TV at that point. And so it's this idea of 211 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: just not losing, just continuing to. 212 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: Move through, not giving up. 213 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: And also, you know, we worked hard when we were younger, 214 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: and still to this day, I had a work ethic 215 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: instilled in me by my mom. I mean, my daughter 216 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: just recently did her third internship at a GMA and 217 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: the first thing I said to was show up earlier, 218 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: leave later, make yourself necessary. I don't care if you 219 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,479 Speaker 2: have nothing to do, buind something to do. Be proactive. 220 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: I don't care if it's holding someone's head over the toilet, 221 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: if they're puking and bringing them you know, anchor coffee, 222 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: or rewriting a script or you know, handing out. I 223 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: don't know. It doesn't matter what it is. Keep your 224 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: eyes and ears open and work hard, because that's the 225 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: one thing that can't be taken away from you. 226 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: Oh true, did you ever feel at any point in 227 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: your life that you were like significantly stuck in that 228 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: before the pivot? 229 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: Definitely? First of all, I've got to say, your voice 230 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: is so soothing, and when I hear mine, I feel 231 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: like it's grating oks And then. 232 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: You start talking like, oh oh thanks. 233 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: Say this maybe it's a lovely thing. Thank you for 234 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: being so beautiful presence. And every time I had to 235 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: always go through that crying and angry and I'm worthless 236 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: and I hate this and I'm never going to do 237 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: it again, and I can't do it, and I'm all 238 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: these things that I listened to, all my bad tames, 239 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: and then I realized, oh this doesn't feel really good, 240 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: so I better change my way of thinking. And distract 241 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,359 Speaker 2: myself by something else that I haven't been rejected by it. 242 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: So I think that that's the place that I felt 243 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: the most stuck and did not see a way out, 244 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: was through postpartum depression. That was that none of my 245 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: old habits or approaches or beliefs had any place when 246 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: I was experiencing that something like that. That flattened to 247 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: me that nothing else had ever done before, nothing had 248 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: ever undone me before, and this undid me. 249 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it just goes against are as women what were. 250 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: It's so shameful. I had it on my third daughter, 251 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: and I know exactly yes, right, that's just I don't 252 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: even know if I had it on the first or second, 253 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: to be quite honest, because I was so out of 254 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: my body at all times, just like functioning and continuing 255 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: forward that I didn't really ever just like drop in 256 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: and feel my feelings. I was just do do do? 257 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Do you know? 258 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I don't know. And it's not what 259 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: we're told. We're told we have the baby handed to you, 260 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: and your hair cascades down and the baby latches on 261 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: look up and you're just it's bliss, and the birds 262 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: flying around your head like that's the least why. 263 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like that for It wasn't like that 264 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: for me either. 265 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: Nope, And I think that you know, it's hard todn't 266 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: feel like a failure, but we're so prone to feeling 267 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: like failures as women. We're all we're told why it's 268 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: our fault. And I believe me, I never even knew 269 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: that I had this rather feminist approach to things and 270 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: it's something against men, but I never I just my value. 271 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: I never realized how threatened it was all the time. 272 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: And then you have this biochemical situation with this something 273 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: that you're told is supposed to be so natural. And 274 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: I was convinced I was a normal and you know 275 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: when I was a huge failure and made a huge 276 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: mistake and shouldn't have played God and all of this 277 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: and all of that is unnecessary punishment for us. 278 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: You posted a video a couple of weeks ago, I 279 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: think now about being an empty nester. I'm really close 280 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: to that, and there's just such a mixed bag of 281 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: emotions for me surrounding that big milestone. How is it? 282 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: How are you adjusting? 283 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: So I'm thankful to my children for it, even telling 284 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: me how to do trending tiktoks or maybe that was 285 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure what it was, but whatever that was, 286 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: they totally directed me in it. And that's that's the 287 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 2: only way I get to do those things is if 288 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: tell me I should do it, you know it. The 289 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: second one is different than the first one because or 290 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: the third, because it does leave a different type of 291 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: emptiness and silence that it's just really unfamiliar. So I 292 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: think that that was sort of the first shock. But 293 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: then they're thriving so much and they have each other. 294 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: That's you're so lucky. 295 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: But then you go through the fear of not being 296 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: needed anymore, and therefore my worth is like well, what 297 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: I mean, they're not crying and missing their mother like that. 298 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: That's threatening, you know, And then you sort of like, 299 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: you know, it's just you and the dog, and you're 300 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, this isn't so bad. Like I 301 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: have time in a different way, to be ambitious, to 302 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: do nothing, to be with friends, to say yes without 303 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: checking for schedules and practice and basketball and parents and this, 304 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like there's this whole world 305 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: of scheduling that I don't have to salt anymore. 306 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is really a relief, certain freedom. 307 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: Got time. 308 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: It's your time to shine. Yeah, I have the twenty 309 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: one and the eighteen year old. They're still at home 310 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: with me, but I mean just watching them grow into 311 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: these incredible, like self aware, driven young women is just 312 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: the gift of life for me. And my daughters have 313 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: really held me up at certain times. Have you have 314 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: you felt that and did you ever feel any like 315 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: guilt or shame around that because you were supposed to 316 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: be the one that has it all together, even though 317 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: you're just going through everything for the first time yourself 318 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: and learning as you go, Like I remember feeling like, wait, 319 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be the strong mom here. 320 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: I mean, yes, absolutely, but it was It was interesting 321 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: the way it happened for me. My younger daughter was 322 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: in a tizzy about something, and she was explaining to 323 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: me what I where I was wrong and where but 324 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: not really wronged her, but just where I was looking 325 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: at the situation inappropriately and unnecessarily, And she just laid 326 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: it into me with such clarity and no judgment, just 327 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: and love, like there was love in her judgment, which 328 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: is interesting, but it was true, and I just burst, 329 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 2: I laughed, I burst out laughing, and she got madder 330 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: and mad her and she was like, why you're laughing, 331 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: This is not funny. And I said, sweetheart, I hope 332 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: and pray for you. If it's what you want. You 333 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: always have to clarify everything now that if and when 334 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: you choose or hope or blessed with having a child, 335 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: they will one day turn around and teach you and 336 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 2: it will shock your system and you will realize what 337 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: a gift it is. And I said, you know what, 338 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. I was not acting in my best 339 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: interest and my ego was driving me, and it was 340 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: just it didn't it was about it was about wearing clothes, 341 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 2: and believe it or not, it was about something absolutely frivolous. 342 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: But the lesson was she had such clarity, and I thought. 343 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 3: This is I've done my job well enough so that 344 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 3: they are their own people, so it's not threatening to 345 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: me when they when when the. 346 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: Roles are reversed. I was relieved for my daughters that 347 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: she was able to teach me and educate me. 348 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: Right at first, it's like a tough pill to swallow, 349 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: like you're like, wait, what this is not okay? Rule reversal, 350 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: But then I'm so grateful, like I feel like, oh, 351 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: I've done something well, I've done something right. 352 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. You're like, how dare you be 353 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 2: so right? And you're like, oh, and then it opens 354 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: a conversation. 355 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: So it really does. 356 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: But it's like it's like with anything, you know. I 357 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: Hey know when your girls first go to a gynecologist 358 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: in there and they're all, you know, you no longer 359 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: you're no longer going in there with them. Well, by 360 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: the time we're the gynecologists and usually not but probably, 361 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: I mean the conversation and you start teaching them to 362 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: ask questions for themselves, ask questions. This is your body, 363 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: You're able to do that. It's what it's what the 364 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: drive up if you plus campaign is about. It's like, 365 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: it's every step of the way we have to learn 366 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: that our bodies are our own and whatever that entails 367 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: to you and be proactive. So it's all these messages 368 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: that I never learned as a child and took me 369 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: a long time to learn, and it took outside influences 370 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: to help me learn that. I'm trying to save them 371 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: a little time and pepper the pepper the information into 372 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: their lives and hope they hope they hear it. 373 00:22:53,920 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: I love that I loved your documentary Pretty Baby. If 374 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: anybody that's listening didn't see that, you should definitely go watch. 375 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: It takes so much bravery to share yourself on that level. 376 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: You opened up about some of your darker moments in 377 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: your life, and I've found that riveting. And now I 378 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: just want to know, like, with all that deeply personal 379 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: information that you've shared out there in the open, how 380 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: do you feel? Because I know after I've shared sometimes 381 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: I feel like, oh no, how can I get that back? 382 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: I think you always feel what have I done? But 383 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: going into it, I really I talked to the director 384 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: and I said, look, I'm going to hand over all 385 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: of my archives to you, and all I ask is 386 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: that as you were watching through, as you were coming 387 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: through this, that the narrative that you'd come up with 388 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: is something bigger than me. Otherwise it's a true Hollywood 389 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: story or worse, where are they now? And you know, 390 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 2: and so you're like, oh God, but what I believe 391 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: this director did and I had to just trust. So 392 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: that was and I will say I have been burned 393 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: so many times by trusting that this was the ultimate trust. 394 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: But I felt like it was time and it was appropriate, 395 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: and she made this documentary about a larger conversation about 396 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: the sexualization of young women, especially in our society, and 397 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 2: it just broadened the view of one person's story. And 398 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: I was the conduit to a bigger conversation. And that, 399 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: to me, is the biggest gift of all. 400 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: Did your daughter see that that they see the reason 401 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: that you did it? 402 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: One of them did, the other one did not. My 403 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: younger one, Bob will forever be angry with me. I 404 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: she was ambushed with the information. I just it was 405 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: a bad, bad mom move on my part. I didn't 406 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: set her up, and she doesn't like being surprised. She 407 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: doesn't like me. She felt sort of cold cocked, and 408 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: I just didn't. I assumed it would be fine. I thought, well, 409 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: she knows her mother. Her mother's healthy and not damaged, 410 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: and you know, and I thought it would be she 411 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: would be able to look at us now and think like, wow, 412 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 2: you are You've come a long way, and isn't that great? 413 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 2: And no, no, no, she said she will never be 414 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: okay with it. She will never be okay with anything 415 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 2: happening to me. And my older daughter really thought about 416 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 2: it and said, well, it was tough. I don't need 417 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: to see that again, but women need to see this. 418 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: So I think that period of maturity helped my older 419 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: daughter to understand it differently. And I'm not sure where 420 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: my my eighteen year old is gonna get any better. 421 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if she's good. 422 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Maybe she'll get there maybe those years. 423 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 2: Well, I hope it's not through the hard way. 424 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't we all? Before I let you go, Brookshields, 425 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: what was your last I choose me moment? 426 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: So it's so menial and silly, that's okay. Over the weekend, 427 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: I had so much to do. I had so many 428 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: parents packing and unpacking and moving and work stuff and zooms. 429 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: And I literally got a cup of tea, went out 430 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 2: on the little swing on my small little front porch 431 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: and I sat there for an hour and a half 432 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 2: and did things like strands, connections, needle point. I did 433 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: this like all these things that were that I never 434 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: really do, and they were just sort of mindless, and 435 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: I felt like I had had a vacation or a 436 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: massage after about an hour and a half, and that 437 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: was I chose me for that hour and a half 438 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: rather than waking up and going directly into chores and 439 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: things that I had to do in Errand's so just 440 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: choosing me in a quiet way was it was really 441 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: was healing for me. 442 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it's just those moments that we need. 443 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's staying before in the morning, binging some show. 444 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: I mean like, sometimes I feel like I'm getting away 445 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: with so much if I still to get up at 446 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: six or seven the next day, But it doesn't matter 447 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: because how quiet time is mine. And you know I 448 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: used to feel guilty for that, and I don't anymore. 449 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: I love that. I've loved our conversation and I love 450 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: what you're doing, and I just want to say thank. 451 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: You, thank you so much, good luck with your your latest, 452 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: your last baby, and thank you. 453 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: I want to thank Brooke for coming on. She is 454 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: such an inspiration to so many women that you can 455 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: be anything you want, You can change and evolve as 456 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: many times as you like in this lifetime. And I 457 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: love that as we continue to choose ourselves each week, 458 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: I want you to try a little self care. Okay, 459 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: when was the last time you had a bubble bath 460 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: or got a massage or sat on your porch. My 461 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: favorite form of self care is usually sitting outside like Brooke, 462 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: just enjoying nature and turning off my mind from all 463 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 1: that is going on up there. I also love bubble baths, 464 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: so maybe you'll find me in one later today. This week, 465 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: I want you to put yourself on your calendar and 466 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: have a little I Choose Me time with no guilt, 467 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: no shame, because it is vital that we put ourselves 468 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: first here and there. Thanks for listening to I Choose Me. 469 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: You can check out all our SOLF links in our 470 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: show notes, and you can rate us and review us, 471 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: and tell me things that I really want to hear, 472 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: and even tell me things that maybe I don't want 473 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: to hear. Use the hashtag I Choose Me. I'll be 474 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: right here next week. I hope you will choose to 475 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: be here too,