WEBVTT - The OTP with Titans Punter Brett Kern 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.840 We welcome to you to the Officials Titans podcast, better 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:17.520 known as the OTP Amy Wells Welcome, How are you? 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:21.840 My name is Mike Keith. Our third for today's podcast 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:26.520 is the three time Pro bowler Brett Kerr, Titans punter. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.400 Honored to be here. When you hear three time pro bowler, 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.720 considering you did not go to your first Pro Bowl 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.520 until you were almost thirty two, does it actually mean more? 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.840 I think it does. You know, for it to take 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.040 ten years and you know, obviously put together some really 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.159 good seasons that probably had the resume to go just 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.040 came up short. You kind of understand how hard it 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:56.480 is what put you over the top to go from 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.840 being viewed as a good punter, a really good punter, 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.080 to being what is now viewed as the premier punter 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:09.080 in the AFC. UM. Honestly, when I when I decided 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.760 to give up worrying about stats, UM, you know, I 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.120 had a conversation with Craig Hendrick, and you know he 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:16.880 told me, He's like, you can play in this league 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.640 as long as you want, UM, if you just go 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.399 out there and have the mindset each game that you 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.039 just need to do what you need to do. Each 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.320 game to be your best so not really get get 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.240 caught up in you know, if if I'm on the 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.319 forty five yard line and it's like, man, I, you know, 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.200 I need to try to squeak out a fifty yard 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.840 punt here to net this, to average this and all 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.560 that kind of stuff, and just go out there and 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.760 really just hit your best punt in each situation. The 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.080 stats are going to take care of themselves. And you know, 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.920 Coach Rabel's happy, Coach Ackerman's happy with how I'm with 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.480 how I'm punting it. Um. You know, then I'll be 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.120 able to play here as long as I want. So 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.960 once when I kind of change my mindset um to 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.200 just take in a game by game, punt by punt 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.360 and trying to execute each punt the best that I can, honestly, 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.680 I just I just you know, I stopped looking at stats, 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.000 really didn't care about stats, And the next thing, you know, 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.560 I'm I'm going to a Pro Bowl. So and I 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.840 think once you get one, you obviously have the confidence 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.880 to you know, to go out there and do it again. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.680 And you know, it really worked. That formula work for 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.799 me in twenty seventeen to just you know, not even 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:21.480 look at stats, not even worry about it and just 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.200 go out there and have fun and do my job. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.000 And so I've been doing that and just kind of 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.000 keep rattling these things off. I know you're obviously not 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.920 pursuing those stats for the accolades, But as far as 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.880 accolades go, where does the Pro Bowl length? Like? Is 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.079 that the dream? Is that what you're trying to achieve 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.040 is the Pro Bowl or their new goals that you 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.400 try to reach after that? Yeah, I think, you know, 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.520 All Pro is probably the one you want the most 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:48.840 because that means you're, you know, you're considered the best 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.680 punter in the league that year. Pro Bowl, you know, 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.880 you're obviously viewed as the best in the AFC, and 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.480 obviously the NFC has somebody. But I think Pro Bowl 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.200 is probably my goal just from a standpoint of being 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:01.760 able to do it with my family, you know, with 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.519 my wife and three kids, and you know, to be 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.200 able to do three in a row in Orlando. Uh, 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.839 It's it's pretty fun. The NFL does a great job 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:14.840 all week making it a very family friendly event and uh, 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.919 you know, so my son to come down and each 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.040 year you could tell he kind of understands you know, 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.960 what to do, what not to do, and uh, he 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:25.640 has a blast with me. I take him everywhere on 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:30.280 the bus. Team Bush practices all that kind of stuff. So, um, 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.919 you know, on the Disney Day, the Universal Studio Day 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.200 is a lot of fun. So that's probably, you know, 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.160 a really cool accomplishment just where I could celebrate it 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.360 with my family. Um, but you know, all pro is 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.120 probably the big daddy and the one that you want 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.520 the most. We've talked about the Pro Bowl a lot 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.480 on the OTP, just about what's good about it, what's 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.480 bad about it, and when we talk about it being 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.360 in Orlando, the Kern family is exactly what's in my 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:59.400 brain as the perfect target person for the Pro Bowl. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.839 You guys, bring your whole family down. The kids are there, 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.520 They're able to run around, They're able to experience kind 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.240 of the Orlando theme park magic of it all. Obviously 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.800 you're able to be celebrated and recognized for what you do. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.400 If the Pro Bowl were in a different city, which 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.720 obviously there's a talk all the time, do you think 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.719 it would have the same effect. Given how cool it's 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.479 been for your family to be able to have the 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.120 full experience yeah. I mean it's funny because you know, 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:28.840 at the end of the Pro Bowl they shoot us 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.520 out an email with the survey on it, and one 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.760 of the questions on the survey was if the Pro 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:38.160 Bowl was an Orlando, where what other cities could you rank? 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:43.200 I think it gave us like Dallas, New Orleans, Vegas, Hawaii, 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:45.719 and I think there's one more on there. I can't 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.039 remember where, but just rank from one to five, you know, 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.320 one being the one that you want to go to 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.560 the most if you couldn't go to Orlando. And I 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:53.920 was just thinking in my head, I was like, man, 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.839 you know, I absolutely love Orlando, just just from a 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.120 family perspective and be able to hang out at Disney 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:05.160 and Universal Studios and just you know, when you're down there, 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:09.520 you kind of feel the uh the magical. I don't 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.440 you know what you people talk about all the time 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.479 that that Disney. I don't even know what it is 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:20.000 something about it, but yeah, and uh, you know, you know, 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:21.560 Darrell I was talking to Drew when we were down 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:25.760 there about how awesome Hawaii was, um, very laid back, chill. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.279 So I think if if I had to choose, i'd 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.479 probably I think going to Hawaii would be would be 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.240 pretty cool because I'd probably try to incorporate golf when 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.280 you get out there. So stunning. Yeah, well, I heard 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.400 a lot of guys stay. They go out there for 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.000 the week and then they stay another week and just 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.720 kind of experience. Those are the guys with that kids 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:47.600 though all some with kids. They just they take the 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:49.760 hit with the school. All right, So can we do 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.200 the Brett current career review very quickly? Oh boy, okay, 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.880 career numbers. Let's not talk about rushing yards now. Hang 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:02.520 on forty six yards per punt gross. That's how far 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:07.800 you hit it, right, forty point four net. That's after 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:12.160 touchbacks and returns are extrapolated, which is crazy because when 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.200 I first got in the league in Denver and O eight, 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:19.600 not one guy had averaged over forty net in a season. Well, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:23.000 and what's interesting about that too, is when I started 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:27.560 playing football and got involved in football and following football, 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:31.520 if you averaged forty yards per punt grows right, you 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.320 were a good punter. If you averaged forty two or 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:40.520 forty three, you were an All American, an all pro whatever. 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.880 I mean. Gray guy is in the Hall of Fame, 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.799 and I think his career averages forty three yards per punt. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.560 He might I think he might be a forty one 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:52.479 forty one thirty five guy. Yeah, you averaged forty seven 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:56.960 yards per punt this year. You averaged forty six yards 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.080 per punt for your career. That's over nine hundred and 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:04.360 twelve regular season punts. How many of the nine hundred 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.920 twelve regular season punts can you probably remember, like, right 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.960 off the top of your head, less than ten out 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.640 of nine hundred and twelve. I probably can remember eight hundred. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:19.400 Can you really? Wow? Does your mind work that way? 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.160 Or okay, it does? I think. I think just because 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.320 I'm a very detailed person. Um. You know, we've talked 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.440 about this before, you know, other stuff that we've done. Um, 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.840 you know at the end of the year. Uh. It's funny. 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.600 The guys kind of joke around with me that I 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.080 put everything on an Excel spreadsheet. So whether it's you know, 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.120 my wife and I buying Christmas presents for the kids, 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.920 I have it all on Excel spreadsheet. Oh yeah, it's 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.720 just away from my brain to organize, you know, how 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.040 things are going. So you don't have one of those 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.640 minds like um trying to think of the actress, who's name, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.360 who's on taxi? Who can remember specific days thirty years ago, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:59.640 You're not um remembers it for him. If I log, 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.960 if I log every punt, and you know, I go 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.800 over direction distanced hang time, you know, I I have 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.600 a plus minus chart its first directional kicking and all 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.400 that kind of stuff. And so if I have it 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.840 labeled and I you know, it's five punts against Buffalo 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.520 in twenty and twelve, I can go back and I'm like, okay, yeah, 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.880 I remember those five like it helps trigger what happened. So, 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.960 you know, at the end of the year, I chart everything, 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.280 and then I like to go through and see, okay, hey, 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.880 we were on the right hash punting right, you know, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.280 ninety percent of the time it was outside the numbers. Okay, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:33.720 but when we were on the left HASH and we 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.600 were punting right across the field, it was only fifty percent. Yeah. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.520 So I try to go through figure out whether it's 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.920 going left, I left from the left, half left, going 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:48.160 across the field, looking at the inside the twenties. As 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.040 far as hitting that end over end ball, you know, 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.520 I like to look at you know, all right, I 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.640 chart from Hey, it was a snap from the forty, 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.320 it took a bounce at the five, it either checked up, 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.480 went in the end zone, all that kind of stuff. 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.360 So I, you know, I log everything and it helps me, 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.480 you know, for next year when I come in and 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.120 let's say we open up at Let's say we open 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.559 up at Baltimore. So then I can go through Mike 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.280 Cell and I look at Okay, we've played I've played 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:18.240 there personally twice in my career. I have a nine 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.559 punt game and the playoff game, and then I look 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.679 through and I'll go through and watch that film, and 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.920 then I'll understand, okay, hey, this is what the wind 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.160 was doing both these days. You know, I noticed that 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.360 I was punting to their bench the whole time. So 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.360 then when I go out for practice, I'll understand. Looking 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.880 at the weather for the week, I'll understand, Okay, hey, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.480 you know, I'll talk to coach Ackerman and say, hey, look, 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.640 you know the past two times we played there, I 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.960 was punting to their bench. So when we go out there, 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.040 I'll simulate, Okay, this is gonna be their bench, And 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.520 in practice, I'll just simulate, hey, you know, if I 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.040 had fifteen punts again in Baltimore fourteen even were going left. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.040 So I'm gonna work on going left this week. So 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.559 that's what helps me, you know, with all the stuff 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.840 that I log as far as on the Excel spreadsheet, 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.160 it helps me go back when I'm preparing for this 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.160 coming year where I've played, Like you know Jacksonville, I 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.599 might you're an analytics guy. Yeah, if you were in baseball, 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.840 you would be very much considered on the cutting edge 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.640 of the analytics thing. The thing I was thinking of 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.679 with Mary Lou Henner, the actress from Taxi. She has 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:26.040 an autobiographical memory. Oh she can remember like forty years ago. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.040 That's why I was wondering if you were one of 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:32.360 those people she can remember specific days. I can't either. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.800 I do what you do right. I have everything on 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.080 Church like I have your whole career right here in 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.320 front of me. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. I know that 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.199 you've had three hundred and fifty five punts down inside 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:47.520 the twenty and fifty four touchbacks in your career and 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.960 those and I mean I church your games too. So 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.960 I do the same thing right, but in a in 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.000 a different way. I am stalking you on my own computer. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.640 That's well. I mean, if there's somebody to stalk me 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.600 the voice of the time, that's that's my job. Now, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.440 you wanted to ask something, Aby will Well, I am 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.880 intrigued by the mathematics of your position, specifically, of all 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:12.240 the positions on a football field on Sunday, is the 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.520 punch or the most mathematic of them all, just because 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:22.160 there's so many angles and percentages and I don't I'm 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.920 not a math person, so right, I'm intrigued by it. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.320 There's probably some guys that, you know, I know, there's 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.640 some guys in the league that go out there, they 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.680 catch it and punt it and is what it is, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.360 and they you know, won't watch game film or anything 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.040 along those lines. I think it just depends on kind 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.640 of who you are. I know Thomas Morstead in New Orleans, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.040 he's very analytical. He I mean, he's he's a guy 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.760 that prescribes or subscribes to U Pro Football Focus because 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.679 he doesn't have an agent, so he uses Pro Football 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.680 Focus and all the analytical data for that to help 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:59.400 him negotiate. So wow. I think there's just probably different 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.360 types of guys all across the league that, um, you know, 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:03.840 some guys just go out there and boot It and 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.160 other guys like myself and Thomas are you know, pretty 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.320 analytical to understand, you know, I mean you've been in 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.040 the league for twelve years, he's been in the league 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.920 for eleven. Um, you know you obviously have your tendencies 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.160 over those over those years. So um, you know, these 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:21.320 returners are so good nowadays that you know, there's there's 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:22.960 some guys that will play me. I know, I know 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.400 in Houston and Mike you might have seen this on 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.480 the broadcast, but from up in the booth, but the 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.760 guy was playing me five to six yards from the 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.200 sideline and not just playing me straight down the middle 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.120 of the field like he knew. Okay, hey he's indoors, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:39.520 he's on the right hash, he's gonna he's gonna punt 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.920 it right. So you know, when you're back there and 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.280 you're seeing that, you're thinking, man, you know, I gotta 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.080 come up with something to offset that. And that's why 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.160 you start coming up with, you know, the different types 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.560 of punts, with the boomerang punt, missile punt. I mean, 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.520 there's tons of things you can come up with, um, 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:55.920 whether you're figuring out on your own or you're watching 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.160 other guys try to do it. So, um, you know, 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.280 I guess I'm just definitely one of the more you know, 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:07.080 analytical guys that, um, this is how I operate and 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:08.920 try to get better every year. All right, let's do 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.360 the more of this is your life punter, Brett Kern, 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.200 Are you ready for more? Yes? Okay, where's this gonna go? Well, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.960 I mean we'll see it's fine. So at this point 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:24.040 in your career, you have kicked off five times, four 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.360 times with the Titans. You had a free kick against 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.319 Cleveland in twenty fourteen, which was last time. You've had 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:33.160 five punts blocked total, remember all of them the last year. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.720 The last one was against the Jets in twenty eighteen. 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.880 Kevin Pierre Lewis is the is the guy who blocked it. 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.199 I don't care who blocks it. I just I understand. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.200 But we're reviewing your career. Okay, four of your punts 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.760 have been returned for touchdowns, three with Tennessee Travis Benjamin 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.360 in twenty fifteen at Cleveland. Yep, I got pancaked on. 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.720 It will fuller bring up some bad memories. Well, wait 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.120 a minute, we're going through all of it. I mean, 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.079 you're the three time pro bowler. We're going through all 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.720 of Okay, ye Will Fuller at Houston in twenty sixteen, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.640 seventeen no sixteen, yep, ye Jachem Grant at Miami that 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.440 actually weeks back to back weeks. That's exactly right, but 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:13.480 hasn't happened since then, right, which is really good. You 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.719 have two career special teams tackles for which you have 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.840 been credited. I think one was against even Hester. Yeah. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.120 Do you claim more than two or do you think 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.400 two is actually? And I think was it against Philly? 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.320 Did they give me a tackle there? I could have been. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.320 I just kind of stood there and got ran for 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.640 yourself out this this year, you moved into new territory 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:37.480 with passing two of three passing for thirty nine yards. Yeah. 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.320 And the best ball is incomplete one. Yeah. He completed 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.440 a twelve yard pass to Kevin Byard for a first 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.960 down against the LA Chargers, missed on a pass against 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.800 Houston on a deep ball. Yep, it was a good throw. Yeah, 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.920 I felt good. Yeah, Yeah, I mean you look good 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.240 throwing the ball. And then the twenty eight yard passed 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.240 to a Mony Hooker in the AFC Championship game. Yeah, 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.000 I mean you are confident throwing the football. You look 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:05.040 athletic throwing the football. Yes, throwing, not running. Okay, now 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.960 to the running part. You had a twenty one yard 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.560 run on a fake punt against Denver. There was that 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.000 it really wasn't a fake punt. No, it's a bad snap. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:16.520 And yeah, it was a snap that kind of brought 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.640 me to the right and the guy that was coming 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.920 off the edge on the right side was I think 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.520 he did it up and under. And I mean when 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:24.840 I caught that thing and I put it out there, 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:29.360 all I saw was him. So I just showed some moves. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:34.680 Four other rushes in your career, totaling no yards, you 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:38.880 have only carried. Of those five carries, only one has 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:44.040 been intentionally planned. Correct, Okay, because I dropped two snaps. Okay, 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.120 So he has four carries where things have happened and 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:51.040 he's had to run the ball. One carry planned against 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.960 Tampa this year on the fake field goal, still getting 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:58.120 adjusted from it. Okay. So you go around left end 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.400 and it looked it's like you're gonna have a chance 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.760 to make the first down and make it to the sidelines, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.960 and then yeah, it's really not good. Something goes wrong. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.000 How bad was that? Can we can talk about it now. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.040 I mean, you saw how often we've practiced it in practice, 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.800 and it looked great. We had discussed it beforehand because 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.000 I had asked you had you ever carried intentionally. I 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:23.280 knew at some point it was coming because it looked 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:28.240 really really great in practice always does well, but it 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.280 looked great when you first went around the end. Yeah. Well, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.920 I mean I think that the what I can't remember 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.280 the linebacker for for Tampa, but he's a KI from LA. Yeah, 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.320 he's a study. He was supposed to cover Mike Coal 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.320 go into the opposite flat, and I think, um, you know, 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.120 I just shot up got out, and I think he 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.200 realized he just made a football play. Like, if I'm 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.440 going to the left and the other guy's going the right, 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:56.800 there's no way he's gonna stop and throw that ball. Now. 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.240 Could we have maybe, I don't know. It would have 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.360 been a pretty crazy call, but he just he just 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.960 decided to make a football play and go after the ball. 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.399 And so honestly, that was the last thing I was 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.640 expecting when I came around, because Taylor did a great 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.760 job of forcing this guy to the outside, and I 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.520 tried to follow him as long as possible, and then 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.640 I'm either going to cut outside of him and really 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.040 just get the first down or I cut inside and 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.159 it's wide open and it's a touchdown. And so when 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.080 I cut inside and I looked at the right and 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.800 I saw that guy Baryln, I thought this is this 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.320 isn't gonna hurt. So, you know, I'm not used to 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.760 getting hit like that. So and he pretty much clotheslined me. 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.400 And yeah, thankfully the refs blew the whistle dead because 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:39.760 I fumbled it. And uh, that's that. Was there a 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.200 moment that you thought, I don't want to do this, 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.800 like I don't want to be in this. Yeah, I 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.680 literally thought this is the last thing Tampa was gonna 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:51.400 expect this this play. We've been practicing this play over 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.159 and over. It's not like, um, you know, hey, we 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.359 threw this fake in on Saturday without practicing it. I mean, 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.520 the one that we ran against Kansas City, we'd practice 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.760 for a while. The one you know we ran against 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:04.720 LA we'd practiced for a while. So when you start 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.600 doing that, I'm not used to throwing the ball at 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.280 running the ball. So the more reps I get in practice, 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:10.879 the more comfortable I feel when I go out to 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.399 the game. So h but I mean I felt if 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.600 you were to ask me, out of all the fakes 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.879 that we ran, I would have said the Tampa one 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.560 was the one I'd be most confident. And so it 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.680 just like I said, that guy made a great football play, 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.639 and Devin White, Devin White and um, you know, probably 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.479 had a good laugh out of light me up. So 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.400 oh man, you saw it real very close. I saw 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:38.280 it very closely. And my not favorite part, because you 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.679 never want to see someone get hit like that, is 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:45.000 the reaction from the bench, which genuine concern for your 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.040 well being because I probably a lot of guys probably 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:48.720 didn't think that was gonna happen either. I think Bow 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.560 Brinkley gave you an actual bear hug. He probably did well. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.399 Bow was worried about. Yeah, we exchanged a lot of 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.119 bear hugs on the sideline. It's very nice. He's like 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.200 my little brother, so we've been together for a long 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:04.600 time and blessed to have him as my long snapper. Yeah, 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.520 I thought it was working when I saw it. When 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.760 I saw you break went after having seen that, I mean, 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.920 I know everybody after the fact that, oh, how could 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.640 you call that and you know about Vybell, and there 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.240 was a lot of consternation about it at that point. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.720 But I mean it really looked like and I watched 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:25.879 it again three or four times, it looked like it 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.440 was there. Yeah. The worst part is I you know, 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.000 I usually tell me my what throughout the week when 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.919 we're having a fake, especially for home games. Uh, and 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.239 I forgot to tell her about that one. And uh 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.959 so imagine her reaction when she sees me running and 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.840 that's right in front of where she sits, I mean 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.760 literally in front of the family section. Yeah, it's where 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.880 you ran that play. Yeah, I mean she couldn't get 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:53.680 any closer to my two kids, you know, we're with her. Yeah, 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.199 two out of the the three came to the game. And 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.320 how ol does Bryce Now's okay, so he really knows 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.880 all this? Oh he oh he does. And so when 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.280 he sees Dad get lit up like that, what what 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:06.240 does he say to you after the game? I think 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:07.480 it was I'm trying to remember. I think it was 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.480 a slight chuckle and then a hug, and he said, 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:13.720 are you okay? Yeah, good buddy. Your children impressed with 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:18.119 you and what you do. They are, Yeah, they understand it. 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.520 And they like that dad is a Titan and that 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.000 dad's a pro Bowl. They think this is cool. Well 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.800 that's really nice. Yeah, that's a I mean, that's that's 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.280