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John Middlecop three and our podcast, Well, 27 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: a lot of you have been like, John, how can 28 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: you not do a podcast after the Chargers give up 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: eight hundred points and Brandon Saleas fired? And I said, well, 30 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: not in a million years when the first primetime game 31 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: I don't do something. And I'm in Vegas as well 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: that I thought it was gonna go like that. But 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: then by the time I got home Friday night and 34 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: I knew we were doing this, I'm like, I'll just 35 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: I'll talk about it today. So and I think the 36 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Tomlin connection, I'm gonna keep hammering that home Tomlin La. 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: I think it makes a lot of sense. I really do. Obviously, 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: they lost Aaron Shambles, Gardner Minshew, the Lions destroyed Denver 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: and we had a really good game this morning with 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals and the Vikings. Very very entertaining. But to me, 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: the big stories right now is the Mike Tomlin situation 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: and the Chargers, and I'm gonna keep connecting them like 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm gonna keep beating the drum on 44 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: that one because I think it makes a lot of 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: sense for both parties. 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And we'll get into Mike 71 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: Tomlin in a second. For an organization that has been 72 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: one of the better ones, don't I would say, I'm 73 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: thirty nine years old. Of my lifetime, they have consistently 74 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: won their quarterback room. Right now, I just took a 75 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: screenshot of the AFC. You could make the argument the 76 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: entire room, not just the starter, the entire room is 77 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: the worst in the conference. There's some bad ones in 78 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: the NFC, but in the AFC. I truly believe that 79 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: Pickett Trubisky and Mason Rudolph is the worst quarterback room 80 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: in the entire conference, and it was on full display 81 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: today and honestly, just on the game today. To yank 82 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky with two minutes left is like yanking a 83 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: pitcher after he gave up ten home runs in the 84 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: seventh inning, like a little late? What are we doing? 85 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: You cannot have Mitch Trubisky as your backup. But to 86 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: me the conversation, and I said it earlier in this week, 87 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: not all divorces are the same. I would imagine every 88 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: single person listening to this, every single person watching this 89 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: has known countless people that have gotten divorced. We all 90 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: known some that have gotten very very ugly, whether it's 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: over child custody, whether it's over money, whether it's just 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: pure hatred, and it's if you're friends with them, family 93 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: with them. It's an uncomfortable situation. It happens in sports 94 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: all the time. With coaches, it gets ugly. And then 95 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: there are the divorces where it's just like, yeah, you just 96 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: don't really like each other anymore. It's just time to 97 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: move on. When I worked with the Eagles, when Andy 98 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: Reid was fired, he addressed the entire organization. It was 99 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: not an acrimonious separation, and honestly, it was the healthiest 100 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: thing the organization and him could have ever done. And 101 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: I think there are two examples of guys that had 102 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: just run out of time. Now. Their situations were a 103 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: lot uglier. Andy went four and twelve and Mike McCarthy, 104 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: if memory serves me correct, was fired after losing to 105 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen at home and Lambeau and that team in Arizona, 106 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: their head coach I think was Steve Wilkes. They were terrible. 107 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: It led to Kyler Murray, but like, look at both 108 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: those guys. Now it worked out for everybody. And I 109 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: think Mike Tomlin and I've said this, and I said 110 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: it earlier in the week, the Steelers were never gonna 111 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: bottom out, right, they were never going They're just gonna 112 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: be too talented to ever win like two or three games. 113 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't care who's playing quarterback for him, but like 114 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: this is their version of bottoming it out. They stink, 115 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: and I think it's just time, Like how could anyone 116 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: watch the organization and go, this is not working out anymore? 117 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: And I don't think Mike Tomlin is some scrub coach. 118 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh, he doesn't He'll be fine, but he 119 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: like this situation spinning their wheels going nowhere, is not 120 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: working out their quarterback situation. There is no hope in sight. 121 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: So to me, if I'm the Steelers, I'm moving on 122 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: and I didn't do a podcast. We'll dive into the 123 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: Chargers here in a second. You can't tell me that 124 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: that makes any more sense. Now, there are a lot 125 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: of reports about the Bill Belichick situation that one might 126 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: be a little more complicated given that he was the 127 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: head coach for six rings. I go back and forth 128 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: like should the Crafts be greedy and try to trade 129 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: them or just fire him and let them go with 130 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: separate ways. It's like, well, if Bill was in their shoes, 131 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: you know he wouldn't just let the guy walk out 132 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: the door for no compensation. So I gotta understand it, like, 133 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: what would Bill Belichick do? He would trade Bill Belichick 134 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: if he could, though I think the right business mood 135 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: move will be He's gonna have a statue in front 136 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: of Gillette one day. Just fire the guy. I think 137 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: the same thing with Tomlin. Just break up, just cut it. 138 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: And to me, the Chargers, like I don't vision Bill 139 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: Belichick going to LA I have a hard time closing 140 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: my eyes and seeing that happen. Northeast guy spent the 141 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of his career in that area. Feels like 142 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: the farthest he ventured was, you know, the Cleveland Browns. 143 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: I was once told by a buddy in the league 144 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: who's tied with Nick Saban that Nick Saban laughed at 145 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: ever being like offered jobs like at USC or whatever. 146 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: He would never take that. Hell, he was turning down Texas. 147 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: He's a south guy, like, he likes that area. LSU, Alabama. 148 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: It's where he feels the most comfortable. I think the 149 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: same thing with Bill Belichick. It's why I think a 150 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: lot of people would point him to Washington. I think 151 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 1: geographically it makes a lot of sense. Bill's kind of 152 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: an academic Washington d C. It'd be a good fit. 153 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Owner could pay him a lot of money, try to 154 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: get that record, and then ultimately retire. To me the 155 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: Chargers and listen. I was in Vegas with the Chargers 156 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: on Thursday night. I was going to a concert the 157 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: first non primetime game. I haven't done a podcast for now. 158 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: It was going into the game. It was two backup 159 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and like this thing, you know'll probably be like 160 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: a fourteen to ten's final score. Awful game. I'm sitting 161 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: in my hotel room before we head out to go 162 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: to this concert. It's twenty one nothing. In the blink 163 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: of an eye, I'm like, this is pretty freaking crazy. 164 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: We walked from where my hotel was to the casino 165 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: and by the time I got there, sat down, ordered 166 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: around to drinks, it was forty two to nothing. My 167 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: first thought was, there has never been a halftime score 168 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL that was forty two 169 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: to nothing. Then I think Warren Sharp tweeted it out. 170 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: It's happened two other times that exact score, both in 171 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: the last like fifteen years. Probably historically, it's impossible because 172 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: forever so many coaches were conservative. Running the ball was 173 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: much more prevalent than passing. And again, it's happened three 174 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: times to me. The moment I looked up and it's 175 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: now forty two to nothing, he was getting fired. Now. 176 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know if they were gonna take Brandon Staley home. 177 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: I don't know how it was gonna transpire, but that 178 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: is in my lifetime. And listen, I'd be a hypocrite, 179 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: and I'd be lying if I have said I haven't 180 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: mailed in some situations professionally when I knew things were 181 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: gonna end right. I'm sure many people listening in professional settings, 182 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: and honestly, it's probably happened in personal settings too. Relationships 183 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: you just kind of mailed in. You're over it. It happens. 184 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: We're all human beings, right, These aren't AI robots, widgets. 185 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: These are human beings, so mailing it in. They wouldn't 186 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: be the first team and they definitely won't be the last. 187 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: I think that is the greatest you we refuse to 188 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: play for you game in the history of the league. 189 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't think a team has ever tried less than 190 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: the Chargers and had less respect for the guy leading 191 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: their squad than Thursday night, the Chargers against the Raiders. 192 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: The Raiders had just scored zero points at home four 193 00:10:54,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: days previously. Let me repeat that, zero points four days previously. 194 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Like the Steelers, they just suck you watching them, their lifeless, 195 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: their quarterback play. It happens, like I said, happened to 196 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, happened to Mike McCarthy. I have never ever 197 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: in my life it'd be up there high in watching sports. 198 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: Happens a lot in basketball. Hell, I saw a score tonight, 199 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: someone lost by like fifty. It happened in the NBA 200 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: all the time. In football forty two to nothing, and 201 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: happen what a double middle finger. We ain't even gonna try. 202 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Dean Spanos had no choice now, to me, he has 203 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: to get a guy with some experience. You cannot hire 204 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: what you just did with Brandon Staley. I was thinking 205 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: about this. He had four years experience when he got 206 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: the job with the Chargers, four years NFL experience when 207 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: I got hired for the Eagles in twenty ten. To 208 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: be like the lowest guy in the personnel totem Pole, 209 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: the quality control coach that year. This guy had been 210 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: in the league for over a decade as a backup 211 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: quarterback was Doug Peterson. So Doug Peterson played in the NFL. 212 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: I don't know the exact number. My guess would be 213 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen years, definitely over ten as a quarterback. And 214 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: then when he got into coaching in the NFL, he 215 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: started as a quality control coach and then obviously worked 216 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: his way up and is now a head coach. Brandon 217 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: Staley coached at some small little school who's successful and 218 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: gets a job and within four years the head coach 219 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: of the Chargers. Why And this gets back to what 220 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: I've said for a long time, have no problem for 221 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: any business, any individual being frugal, being cheap at times 222 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: if you don't have much money where you're trying to 223 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: build a business and you're cutting costs when you get 224 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: to a certain point in business, if you're not willing 225 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: to double down on everything that's important when you are 226 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: making a lot of money, you're a fucking loser. And 227 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: like I said, if you're an individual, whether it's CEO 228 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: or an owner, it's a disease you have and you 229 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: don't shake. And the more and more I text it around. 230 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: The inability for the Chargers to spend on anything. It's 231 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: the least overblown thing that's talked about by people that 232 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: talk about football, because it's true. Like you watch these 233 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: organizations night, like the Steelers playing the Colts. Both those 234 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: teams invest heavily in the coaches and the facilities and 235 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: everything they need that comes around football. Chargers will pay 236 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: for their players. It's free money. It's all monopoly money. 237 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: You get it from the league. You still got a 238 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: couple hundred million. If I understand twenty thirty years ago 239 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: operating in the NFL like it was nineteen ninety two, 240 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: like it was nineteen eighty four. The money now is 241 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: flowing at the highest level that it's ever flown, and 242 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: it's only going to grow. And some of these people 243 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: have the wiring like a Spanos family who just is 244 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: a mom and pop shop who came into this league 245 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: when money was nowhere like this and are still operating 246 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 1: like that. And if a guy like Mike Tomlin is available, 247 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: like to me, you make them an offer like the 248 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: Chiefs did with Andy Reid and this no, she's like 249 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin sucks. Bullshit. I've seen Mike Tomlin with the 250 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: real quarterback, win a ton of games. And here's the 251 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: thing with the Chargers, Like we're not talking super Bowl. 252 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: We're just talking like, consistently go to the playoffs, consistently 253 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: not be embarrassment, and yeah, if you want to go 254 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: in the immediate Has it been bad for Tomlin one percent? 255 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: It looks ugly, but like I said, it's happened to 256 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: a lot of coaches. Bill Belichick got run out of 257 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: town fast in Cleveland. Everyone thought that entire crew Shanahan, Lafleur, McDaniel. 258 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: They thought they were joke in Washington when they were 259 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: assistant coaches. They thought they were pompous, little arrogant, young assholes. 260 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: Look at all of them now kicking ass and taken names. 261 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: So this notion that just because you struggle or have 262 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: a bad year that you're some idiot coach. You put 263 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: them with Herbert, you give them some like you know what? 264 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: And I heard Coward say this when I was driving 265 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: back from Vegas on Friday. You know what the Chargers 266 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: lack is culture. And it gets back to why do 267 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: they lack culture? Because they never hire real coaches. Brandon 268 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Staley he's a position coach. Anthony Lynn, he's a position coach. 269 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: Mike McCoy, he's a position coach. You know who you 270 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: can't create culture? Position coaches who are created as head 271 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: coaches and who have no business being there. And here's 272 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: what I know about Mike Tomlin. You get him there, 273 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: he immediately creates culture. You're like Middle Gulf. The Steelers 274 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: are never They're never like they're just cool with going 275 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: missing the playoffs year after year after year and never winning. Like, yeah, 276 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: I understand They've only hired three coaches in the last 277 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: seven hundred years. It's time like some things you don't 278 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: need to be, you know, Bill Parcells or Bill Pollian. 279 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: You could just be the dude to watches football in 280 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: your thirties or your forties and go like, yeah, this 281 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: is not working out. Look at the Colts today. They 282 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: make a hire and listen. I don't believe the Chargers 283 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: can afford to hire even Ben Johnson. I think it's 284 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: too risky. He might go on to be an awesome 285 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: head coach. But Shane Steichen is become an awesome head coach. 286 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: What he's doing in Indianapolis is incredible. I mean, to 287 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: win this many games with Gardner Minshew, it's not like 288 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: he's squeak. He just beat the shit out of the Steelers. 289 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: But for every change Siken, there are a ton of 290 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: these coordinators who just immediately flop. Look at the Chargers. 291 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: They need a guy who has pelts on the wall, 292 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: who knows what he's doing. And again, like, I'm not 293 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: trying to hit some Grand Slam home run. I'm just 294 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: trying to get a stand up double. I'm just trying 295 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: to get the train back on the tracks, right and 296 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: you look at a lot of these coordinator hires. The 297 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: year after year they flop. They failed. Now I think 298 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: the Chargers it's gonna be fascinating. Like the Steelers, if 299 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: they become available, that's an incredible job. Speaks for itself. 300 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: If the Patriot were to become available, you could argue, 301 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: if it's a great job, you never want to be 302 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: the guy replacing the guy. You want to be the 303 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: guy replacing the guy who replaced the guy. But the crafts, 304 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: the money, the resources, how much that area cares about football. 305 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: Listen the Chargers. Anytime your owners also have children in 306 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: the personnel department, it can get pretty risky. I'm a 307 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: big believer like the ownership should just focus on the 308 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: business side and pay a premium for a coach and 309 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: a general manager and let them cook and then benefit 310 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: from all the cash that's flowing in because you're winning. 311 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: I would say pretty consistently you'd be like, well, Jerry's 312 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: the GM. I don't think when Jerry Jones traded for 313 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, he made a couple of comments he had 314 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: never watched a snap of football. Jerry is not your 315 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: typical GM. He ain't watching film. Jerry's doing deals, printing money. 316 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: He has a personnel department, and Mike and the coaching staff. 317 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: They're doing everything. He likes calling himself the GM right, 318 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: most of these, you think Jeffrey Lurie's telling Howie Roseman 319 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: who to pick? You think Robert Kraft had any influence 320 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: on anything for twenty five years? Of course not. That's 321 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: not the business you're in. The business you're in is 322 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: you have an asset worth billions of dollars and you 323 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: need to hire a guy in that business that you 324 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: really know nothing about and have faith in them, invest 325 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: in them and let them cook. And that's the Chargers 326 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: situation right now. Now that there's a lot of red 327 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: flags in that organization. They have a you know, a 328 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: beacon of hope in the quarterback and you saw like 329 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: justin Herbert's overrated, and then you watch them play the 330 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: fucking Raiders and lose by seven hundred points. Honestly shock 331 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: they flew Brandon Staley home. I would have pulled a 332 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin right. There are certain guys like Bill Belichick, 333 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. You treat those guys, even if you're gonna 334 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: fire him at the end of the season, with a 335 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: level of respect the embarrassment that Brandon Stalely has brought 336 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: your organization, which Teeter sometimes on embarrassing times to begin with, 337 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: would have garnered anything you wanted to do. But to me, 338 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and the Chargers make so much sense. Listen, 339 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: you can offensive coaches offensive league. Here's the thing, though, 340 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: you got Mike Tomlin, He's got to pay for an 341 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. We've seen him with Arians with Todd Haley. 342 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: Offense hasn't been their issue. I remember it wasn't that 343 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: long ago when Ben was young, young ger Antonio Brown, 344 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: Leveon Bellick. They have one of the best offenses in 345 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: the league. And we know defensively speaks for itself, Like 346 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: I have pretty good faith that he knows what good 347 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: defensive players look like. So to me, that's something I've 348 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: been beating the drum for a while now that it's 349 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: clear the charges are open. Like I talk to a 350 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: lot of people that think Harbaugh's gonna stay. I can't 351 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: even pretend. I mean Harbaugh's the great wild card. If 352 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: you can hire Jim Harball, Yes, I would take Jim 353 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: Harball over Mike Tomlin. I just I don't know. I mean, 354 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: I that'd be awesome. I'm all for it. I just 355 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing that one. And I get 356 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: so many talking to people that know him a little 357 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: bit go through Michigan, it's hard to tell. I think 358 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin should want to be fired at this time, 359 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: at this moment, like where they're at, Like it's just time. 360 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: I've been fired twice, best thing that's ever happened to me. 361 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: Both times went on to have more success, went on 362 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: to make more money. It's just it's time for a break. 363 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: We'll get more into Stately and the Chargers continuously as 364 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: just more information comes out over the next several weeks 365 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: on just who they're interested in, because that's just a 366 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: fascinating gig. I'll never forget the vitriol and the anger 367 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: of people involved with the draft when the Lions traded 368 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: from six to twelve, added a high second round pick 369 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: and took Jamiir Gibbs and listen, I'm I tend to 370 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: agree ninety five percent of drafts don't take a running 371 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: back high. It doesn't make sense. I think what the 372 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons did taking Bijon Robinson was beyond stupid, awesome player. 373 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be in that business when I got a 374 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: bunch of other needs. But when you turn that player, 375 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: who is listen, Bijon's excellent catching the ball. He's a 376 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: really good player. I'm not saying I wouldn't want the 377 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: guy in my team. I understand the argument, and I 378 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: tend to lean that way. I would take Jalen Carter 379 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: or whoever. Even though we've talked about Jalen. He was 380 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 1: a big wild card beside the Eagles because he had 381 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: all his former teammates. But you know what I mean, 382 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: but everyone thought that, like, you could take Bijon high, 383 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: but you couldn't take this guy. And then I'm watching 384 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: this guy and he looks like fucking Alvin Kamara. I mean, 385 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: he looks fantastic. But they got with a second round pick. 386 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, George Kittle, I mean two point zero. 387 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: See how good Stan Laporta is, Like shattering rookie records. 388 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: That has a chance to go down as one of 389 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: the truly great draft day trades we've ever seen. To 390 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: get a two for one, to get those two guys 391 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: in this league playing indoors, I mean, it's just it's 392 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: the perfect fit. Like Laporta feels like a guy who's 393 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: got a chance to be one of the best tight 394 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: ends in the league for a decade. And listen, you 395 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: never know with the running backs, but that's what you 396 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: want in a twenty twenty three running back, like you 397 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: gotta be able to spread the field, make guys miss 398 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: catch the ball in space. I jotted a note after 399 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: Gibbs scored the touchdown. Laporta scored the first touchdown and 400 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: Gibb scored the second touchdown. Now they both had a 401 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: bunch of production after that point in time, so these 402 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: numbers are even higher at the time, and I think 403 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: Laporta scored the end of the game. At the time 404 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: when I just jotted this note down, they had combined 405 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: for one hundred and eleven catches and fourteen touchdowns. I 406 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: think that number is now fifteen, and Gibbs was averaging 407 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: almost five point five yards this year per carry. It's like, 408 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: what more can you ask for? Here's the thing, the 409 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: stat that they said right before I hopped on that 410 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions have not won the division. They have 411 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: not won the division since nineteen ninety three. Because we 412 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: go back, should Shane Stike and get it, Should Kevin 413 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Stefanski get it? If you win twelve or thirteen games 414 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: with the Detroit Lions, I'm sorry, you're just the coach 415 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: of the year. They have not won the division since 416 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three. Now, they've had some ups and downs 417 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: this year, and they're not a great team outside because 418 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: of their quarterback, but they're gonna host a playoff game. 419 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: And that team indoors because of their firepower is just 420 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean, they have weapons freaking everywhere. They 421 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: got a speed wide receiver Sat Brown can do everything obviously, 422 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: the tight ends and stuff. They got multiple running backs 423 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: or offensive lines awesome. Jared Goff can look really comfortable 424 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: in the dome like's that's a team that listen. Depending 425 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: on who they play in that first round. You know, 426 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: some people could take the Rams or you know, a 427 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: team like that if they're playing them. Depending on how 428 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: the Packers are playing, they should win a playoff game. 429 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: And if you win the division and then ultimately win 430 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: a playoff game, this is the Detroit freaking Liance. If 431 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: you watch the Amazon documentary, it's pretty crazy how much 432 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: limited success the franchise has ever had. Like it's pretty nuts. 433 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: Even in Barry Sanders time there, and I was so young. 434 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: I didn't remember it when they got to the NFC 435 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: Championship game and it was a really big deal and 436 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: they only won one playoff game that year because they 437 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: got to buy. But this is a team that doesn't 438 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 1: have any success ever. It'd be like taking over to 439 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: college that never wins and just has him in the playoffs, 440 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: Like that's not supposed to happen. The same teams do 441 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: it over over, especially in that division. The Packers are 442 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: the Bears in Minnesota. I mean those three teams have 443 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: been consistently obviously the Packers, but even the Bears and 444 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings have had unreal years in my lifetime 445 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: over the last thirty years. So I think it's easy 446 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: to try to downgrade what Dan Campbell just because they 447 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: have looked bad at times. But he gets a lot 448 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: of credit for Ben Johnson, who clearly is the number 449 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: one assistant on the open market this year. He gets 450 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: a ton of credit for last year, sticking with Aaron Glenn, 451 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: who just listen, they have some limitations with their personnel, 452 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: but I think they play their ass off and gets 453 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: a ton of credit for just being a good head coach. 454 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: They were good last year, right, they were very very 455 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: close to winning it. They ended Rogers' career in Green Bay, 456 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: and they're headed toward twelve wins minimum this year. They 457 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: play the Viking twice, like, I'm sorry, Nick Mullins ain't 458 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: beating that team twice. Hell, I doubt he beats him once. 459 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: And they play in the Dome too, so they get 460 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: multiple Dome games. Just an incredible year from the Lions, 461 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: no way around it, because I think a lot of 462 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: people like I'm not picking the lines. The Lions aren't 463 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: gonna turned out. They were good and they're just if 464 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: you get them on the right day, which they've had 465 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: a lot more good days than bad days. They are 466 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: an excellent watch. That they really are. And Denver like, like, listen, 467 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: Sean Payton's taking them as far as he can take them. 468 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: That team should not go to the playoffs. I don't 469 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: know why he was screaming at Russell Wilson when I 470 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: don't totally blame Sean Payton. The refs should be ashamed 471 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: for not calling a touchdown. I mean, Denver had like 472 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: three straight plays where they scored a touchdown, but he 473 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 1: didn't challenge it. Then he screamed at Russell Wilson and 474 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: it was kind of a disaster, but they got their 475 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: ass kicked on. The games this morning, Cincinnati and Minnesota 476 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: actually a really entertaining game, A really really entertaining game 477 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: for two backup quarterbacks. Uh. Nick Mullins had some incredible plays, 478 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: and he had some of the dumbest plays you'll ever see. 479 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: And Jake Browning is just a solid player. And that 480 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: was one thing where I go back to the Steelers, 481 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: like all these teams have solid backups, but even Vick 482 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: Mullens can be functional. Jake Browning is just pretty good. 483 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew's just pretty good. You just have good back 484 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: It's never been easier to play quarterback. Garter Minshew threw 485 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: a ball today. They got Pittman fucking killed. It was 486 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: I don't blame the defender who tried to go low. 487 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: The past was so terrible that Pittman had to dive 488 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: and got hit. Casey got tossed out. Gardner Minshew like that, 489 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: that's a pass that Tom Brady was talking about. All 490 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: these guys are protected now that we're defenseless. I don't 491 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: know how anyone's defenseless on a football field, but clearly 492 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: you are. And Gardner Minshew just throws these jolo balls. Uh, 493 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: but he also makes a lot of plays. And Jake 494 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: Browning today made a ton of plays, made some great 495 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: plays with his legs to keep plays alive. He's calm 496 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: and collected. His arm is vastly improved from when he 497 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: was in college at Washington making. He had one throw 498 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: today once Chase got hurt knocked out of the game, 499 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: completed a ball for a first down. I'm like, I 500 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: haven't who's that player? What's his name? And then the 501 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: announcer was like, so and so from Princeton. I'm like, 502 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: who is he throwing to right now? But crazy win? Listen, 503 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor. You get a lot of credit as a 504 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: head coach when you win games with your backup quarterback. 505 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: It kind of made Andy Reid legendary in Philadelphia. He 506 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: had years where he was still competitive when Donovan got KOed. 507 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: One year, I think he made the playoffs with Jeff Garcia. 508 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor is clearly, I would say, a pretty polarizing coach. 509 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: Like how good is he actually? Well, he's been to 510 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: back to back AFC Championship games, He's been to a 511 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Joe Burrow one of the best fucking players 512 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: in the league gets knocked out. He takes Jake Browning 513 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: and he has this team better than the Steelers. I mean, 514 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: he has this team in the playoffs. What an accomplishment. 515 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: He gets a lot of credit. Their defensive coordinators excellent. 516 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: He hired him. That's his guy. So I think Zach 517 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: Taylor's been really, really impressive this year and watching Minnesota, 518 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this today, Brian Flores, if they're 519 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: gonna truly be you know, Schefter said before seven to 520 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: ten openings, should be a lock head coach somewhere this year. 521 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: He clearly is an awesome defensive coordinator. He's been a 522 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: head coach and been successful. But his red flag it's 523 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: so big that if I was an owner, I'd be 524 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: scared because when he was in Miami the two things 525 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: he was known for. Hated to it couldn't interact with him, 526 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: so you can't interact with the quarterback, and was awful 527 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: and ran through offensive staff members. It's like, listen, Brian, 528 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: you are an impressive guy, right, You've excelled with Bill, 529 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: which is also a red flag, But you went off 530 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: on your own and you had successful teams in Miami, 531 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs, but you were pretty solid and 532 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: now watch you as a defensive coordinator, you're clearly like 533 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: top three or four defensive coordinator, like when Fangio's defensive 534 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: coordinator Todd Bowles a defensive coordinator like you're a leade 535 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: at your gig. But offense pays the bills in this league, 536 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: and the quarterback, once we get the right one, is 537 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: the reason franchises ascend and sustain success. And for me 538 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: as an owner, why we print money. And if I 539 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 1: can't trust your ability to deal with that group, that 540 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: scares me. And I think because he's gonna check a 541 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: ton of boxes, that would be the thing that like 542 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: in an interview, how can he prove, like, how do 543 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: I know you can deal with these guys? It's one 544 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: thing obviously, Kevin O'Connell, you'll probably deal with them. He's 545 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: your boss. What about when you're the boss again? Because 546 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: last time they couldn't stand you the quarterback like the 547 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: stories were you know, run around NFL circles were awful. 548 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: So that's this is a guy who is an awesome 549 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: football coach on defense, he really is, and his red 550 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: flag might be big enough that no one messes with 551 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: him because you watched this Minnesota team, I mean last year, 552 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: and I know they lost, but when you got fucking 553 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: Nick Mullins throwing picks to you know, it's just you can't. 554 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: You can only go so far. But I think defensively, 555 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota has kind of been a revelation this year how 556 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: good they've been. I read an article this morning when 557 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: I was at the gym scrolling around on the Athletic 558 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: that Sean Payton was telling someone that during the week 559 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: they played Minnesota, him and his coaching staff spent more 560 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: time than usual watching film because they couldn't figure out 561 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: what Flores was doing. So schematically excellent coach. Leader on 562 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: the defensive guys excellent, but you gotta be and you 563 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: got to understand the offense. You have to or at 564 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: least know how to deal with them. And this is 565 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: what I've said about Tomland. We've seen him before with 566 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: good offensive coaches, and he's had a lot of success. Arians. 567 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: Todd Hayley, now listen, it's the ownership very involved. Why 568 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: they fire Bruce Arians because he didn't run the ball enough. Right, 569 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: think about that. In twenty twenty three, Steelers love running 570 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: the ball. Little archaic mindset you know, from an ownership 571 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: group that's had the team forever, which listen, it's their team. 572 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: They can do whatever they want, but it can be 573 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: difficult at times. But overall, I thought it was a 574 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: pretty entertaining Saturday. The Lions man's that's just a fun 575 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: offense to watch. Brad Holmes, the general manager. I tweeted 576 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: the video. Okay, I went and found it. The video 577 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: when they draft Gibbs and those guys go fucking nuts. 578 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: Brad Holmes goes nuts. I saw another video where they 579 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: were deciding on trading back. They were gonna draft him 580 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: at six, which would have been I mean, that would 581 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 1: have been pretty insane. But to trade back to twelve, 582 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: still get your guy and get Laporta. What a move. 583 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: The volume