WEBVTT - Unrest, Death Row, and Euphoria 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.160 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.800 with Resent Choice Media. 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:11.360 Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome home to the Native Landing 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.400 on the podcast based that's it for greatness sixteen minutes. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.680 It's so hit, not too long for the great ship, 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.479 high level combo politics in a way that you could 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.200 taste it then digest it. Politics touches you even if 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:24.000 you don't touch it. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:25.120 So get invested. 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.319 Across the t's and doctor i's kill them back to 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.040 get them staying on business with ride. You could have 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.080 been anywhere, but you chose us Native Land Podcast, the 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:35.360 brand that you can trust. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:39.080 Yes, why didn't anybody tell me we were bringing glasses? 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:40.760 Welcome home y'all. 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.960 Dwayne, Wayne, Wayne, you got the. 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.280 Hyne Wayne glasses. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:47.320 That is hilarry. 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:48.519 You know I used to load lan. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:49.879 I don't have any glasses. 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:54.600 Well because the hip hop, you know. Anyway, I have 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.480 to be honest. Welcome home, y'all. First of all, this 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:00.279 is episode seventeen of Native Land Pod where we can 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.240 give it to you straight, no chaser. I we are 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.080 your hosts. Angela Is have fake glasses, but we are 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.640 your real hosts. I am Tiffany I'm just feeling you 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.200 for it, joined by Angela R. Who's feeling you for it, 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.840 which I'll get to. And Andrew, what's up, y'all? I 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.160 have to say, I love the glasses, Angela love your glasses. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.000 I am feeling you for it. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:22.640 And I don't even know where to start because I 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.360 just literally seconds ago just listened to Euphoria. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.240 Guys. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.679 No, no, no, no, no, you are we taking the 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:32.360 glasses off? 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.160 We can, we can take him off now. But I 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:36.440 just want to give a shout out to a. 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.120 Different world and shout out dofferent. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.560 Way around HBCUs. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.440 Yeah, I love it, speaking. 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.440 To the plight of our brothers and sisters of the 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.120 hbc U campuses. Y'all have the reason I went to college. 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:49.440 But can I can? 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.160 I ask you, guys, because you you probably already listened. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.200 Have y'all listened to Euphoria yet? 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.280 Of course several times? 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.600 Of course you did, of course you have. I'm still 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:00.560 bleeding out from it. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.960 Andrew trying to read the lyrics there. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.560 Oh oh, it's so perfect. Can I tell you my 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.680 favorite part? Tell me it's one little thing that I 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:13.640 haven't heard anybody talk about yet. Kendrick's diss is six 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.600 minutes and twenty three seconds. Yes, what is the nickname 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:17.560 for Toronto? 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:20.799 Is it Crody? Because I've been trying to figure out 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:21.360 the six. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.320 No, Crody is what crips in Toronto call each other 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.840 instead of brody. Oh, he was in there when I 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.560 tell you he was in there, But I think he 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.880 made us six minutes because Toronto is the six. Oh, 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.799 the cleverness, the cleverness of it, the brilliance. 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:41.560 Welcome home, y'all. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.240 This week, I'm sure you've heard by now that the 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.240 judge overseeing the criminal justice trial with Donald Trump facing 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.760 thirty four accounts related to hush money, they call it 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.920 for the alleged affair between he and Stormy Daniels. He 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.200 was fined in that case nine thousand dollars for violating 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:02.400 the courts gag order. Nine thousand dollars. Yeah, but this 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.000 all happened on the heels of an interview he granted 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.480 Time Magazine and which he said a whole lot of 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.200 wild stuff. He declared that if an election was in November, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.800 or when the election is in November, he would bypass 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.840 the law and deploy US military to detain and deport migrants. 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.400 If he's elected, He hedged. 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:23.160 On the possibility of more political violence if he's erected. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.520 He was basically saying his elected victory is inevitable. He 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.519 would also permit states to decide whether to prosecute those 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.040 who violate abortion bands. I can't even stress how dangerous 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.760 that is. So for everyone thinking this election won't impact you, 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.600 the GOP front runner is threatening to use the US 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.640 military for his political agenda. We're going to be talking 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.640 about that all through the show today, so stay tuned. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:47.800 But here's what else we're talking about on the show 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.760 this week. What Because we like to talk about things 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.960 that you didn't just hear on cable news, the things 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.600 that you don't hear on cable news. We like to 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.840 talk about things that are not being discussed. So we're 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:00.960 going to start with this. But if I told you 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.400 that hundreds of people, mostly black men, were being killed 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.120 in the most painful and gruesome ways and the government 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.960 was in on it, Yeah, it's a true story. Stay tuned. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.400 I'll tell you what I'm talking about. And guess who's hiring. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.680 All of a sudden police forces across the country. They 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.680 show an increase in their ranks for the first time 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.640 in four years. We'll get into why and what that 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.200 might mean, and right on target. We've already seen their 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.360 work across college campuses where professors and students alike are 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.640 being met with state sanctioned of violence. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.360 It's ridiculous what we're saying. 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.159 We're going to dig into the continued unrest across college 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.640 campuses all over the country. I have a question I 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.200 want to ask my co host when we get into that. 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.240 Should these schools still hold graduation. We're going to see 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.680 what Ango and Angela think about that. And I've always 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.320 got Georgia on my mind. Shout out Today, the new 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.120 battleground state is yet again struggling with a new voter 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.279 suppression bill that could have dire consequences for the Biden 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.880 Harris administration. That's something you have not heard about in 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.920 the echo chambers. We're going to get into that. And finally, yes, everybody, 0:04:57.960 --> 0:04:59.960 calm down. I know you want my thoughts on the NBA. 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.960 I'm going to give them to you. But there is 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.039 more than just the games. The playoffs. 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.000 Excuse me off some playoffs. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.520 The NBA playoffs and my predictions for the finals. 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.599 Thank you. I was given a teaser at what I 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:14.560 was actually going to talk. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.960 About clean I'm sorry. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.600 Anyway, We're going to talk about how you guys might 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.760 be watching these games in the future, so stay tuned 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.560 for that. And before we get into the show, I 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:26.480 just want to give you all a little bit of history. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.800 If you're listening to this podcast, fresh off the presses 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.479 Thursday morning, thirteen years ago today, on May second, Osama 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.880 bin Laden was killed by Steal Team six, a group 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:38.160 of Navy seals. Twenty four years ago this week, South 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.680 Africa was miired and talks led by their newly elected 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:44.799 leader Nelson Mandela to end apartheid and a whopping five 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.800 hundred and thirty years ago this week, Christopher Columbus arrived 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:49.800 on the coast of Jamaica, set in the courts for 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:54.520 the Spaniards to slaughter the island's original inhabitants of peaceful 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:58.479 people known as the Arrowoks. Ain't nothing new under the sun, y'all. 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.440 All right now, now that we're throwing it back, let's 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.760 push it for it, Nick, take us down ninety five thousand, 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:04.479 drop that base. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:13.880 All right, Well, I. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.720 Mentioned the time interview that Donald Trump did. Did you 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:17.960 guys have anything on that? 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.000 We actually have a question about what would happen if 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:22.880 we get stuck with Donald Trump for former years. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.679 AT's say, listen, hey Native Lampard. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.360 My name is Sean, I'm twenty two years old and 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.880 I'm from Atlanta, Georgia. I was just wondering if you 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.640 guys had any advice, any tips, any suggestions, like literally 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.680 anything about how we the people are going to deal 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:41.800 with the next four years. We are probably sadly going 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.520 to have Trump as the president, and we could potentially 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.800 have a Republican House and Republican Senate, and because of that, 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:52.279 these projects twenty twenty five policies will be passed that 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:58.360 make or break our daily lives. So as these issues 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:02.400 are coming upon us, how are we as civilians going 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:06.400 to react or should react or should prepare ourselves for 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:12.480 the next four years of our lives? Any suggestions on 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.160 how the people are going or should survive? 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:16.840 Sean? 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.600 We were Sean shout out to the atl and stay 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.560 tuned Sean because were gonna talk about something coming out 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:23.679 of Georgia and later in the show. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:25.720 But I need Sean to keep up hope. Did y'all 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:26.320 feel like he was. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:28.200 That? 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.640 But my advice is do everything you can to prevent 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:32.840 that from happening. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:33.960 Especially at a background. 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:34.320 Stay. 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.000 Come on, Sean, don't give up hope. 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.080 You know, I understand where he's at. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:42.720 Though, when you look at what's happening and feeling like 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.080 the folks that we fought to get to the polls 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.760 for in a pandemic, a lot of folks who you know, 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.440 don't necessarily have the access or the privilege of access 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.400 to information that we have, don't. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.360 Really feel supported and hurt and fought for. 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:59.080 So my advice to Sean would be make some calls 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.600 to the White House and let folks know where you 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.360 need to see them, how you need to see them. 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.760 Kamala Harris is doing an economic tour right now that 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.920 is incredible. She's been stumping for a reproductive justice. We 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.240 need the same kind of energy for DEI and some 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.600 other things like let folks know what you need to 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.960 see so that people feel like they can be powerful 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.120 and fighting. We also talked about some things on this 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.240 podcast about what's happening in states and the kind of 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.680 ads we want to see. Keep those kind of pieces coming. 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.040 If we know that our ideas are being heard and 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.520 we start to see them being made manifest even what's 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.240 happening with the marijuana pardons are changing it from a 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:42.119 scheduled one drug. You know what I'm trying say, reclassified 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.600 from schedule one to Schedule three. That's major. I know 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.319 it's not recreational, but it's still major. And so how 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.319 can we, yeah, how can we lift up some of 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.680 those things so that folks feel a little more hope 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:59.679 filled and hopeful. And I mean with Sean, but I understand, yeah, 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.079 I want to make sure I understand. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:05.840 Vice President Harris. I know, Angela, you mentioned the whole 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.280 Mama Wad thing. If you guys can stay after, we 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.120 should do a mini pod on that. If you guys 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:11.319 are free to do that. 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.840 I'm gonna make time. I'm gonna reclaim my time on 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.520 that podcast. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:20.559 One thing that frustrates me. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.760 I have to tell you guys, the echo chambers cover 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.720 two or three things a day, and there's so much 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.200 more happening. And this is something that happened that I've 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.160 referenced on the show that I want to just tell 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:35.840 people about the hundreds of black men being killed in 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.600 the most heinous of ways. In an analysis of more 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:44.360 than fourteen hundred lethal injection executions conducted in the US, 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.880 for the past forty two years. A new study shows 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.240 that states made significantly more mistakes during the execution of 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.600 black people than they did with prisoners of any other races. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.600 I want you all to take a listen to what 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:04.000 happened when these botched executions take place, and remember this 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.560 disproportionately impacts Black men. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:06.200 Take a listen. 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.160 To keep the prisoner from feeling any pain, executioners would 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.720 administer three drugs. First, they would inject something to knock 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:18.120 the person unconscious, usually an anesthetic or sedative. Second comes 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.880 some sort of paralytic meant to cease all movement in 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.120 the body, and finally, a drug to stop the heart, 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:28.680 usually potassium chloride. But here's something that shocked us while 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.760 researching this piece. The man responsible for coming up with 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.480 a three drug cocktail. He says he acted on a hunch. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.080 By his own admission, Doctor A. J. Chapman, did no 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.320 research before coming up with the idea, and Chapman later 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.560 admitted he was quote an expert in dead bodies, but 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.400 not an expert in getting them that way. We may 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.480 have been sold the myth of the painless execution, but 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.840 many people on death row know how painful it could be, 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.080 so some prisoners have asked to be killed a different way. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.680 The vast majority of execustions for the last forty years 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.200 have used lethal injection, but other methods are still on 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:09.679 the books, like electrocution, which one medical examiner said essentially 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.520 cooks the brain. Still some said they would prefer that 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:17.280 execution method because the electric chair usually takes around two 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.000 minutes to kill someone. Lethal injection has taken over two 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.640 hours in some cases. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:27.360 All right, I was horrified when I heard this, And 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:31.080 the problem is because of a very punishing criminal justice system. 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.839 The amount of black men that are sent to death row. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.320 In Louisiana, the odds of a death sentence were ninety 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:42.000 seven percent higher for a black men whose victim was white. 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:46.240 And in Oklahoma, a study found that cases with white 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.360 female victims, cases with white male victims, in cases with 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.800 minority female victims are more likely to end with the 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:58.160 death sentence in Oklahoma with none white male victims. So 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.560 I just when looking at this, I was mortified. I 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.320 read this in The Times a couple of weeks ago, 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:03.520 and it just occurred to me. I don't even know 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.880 how you all feel about it. So Angelin, Andrew, are 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:07.480 you all I don't know where you stand on the 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.240 death penalty. Do you think it's something that should happen. 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.520 I I've never been for the death penalty. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:15.400 I think that. 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:21.840 You put yourself in the shoes of God when you 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.960 take someone's life, and so I just I don't support it. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.720 I think what's remarkable to me are the folks who 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:35.920 are allegedly pro life or anti choice, who are very 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:40.280 gung ho death penalty, almost like aggressively so and that 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:44.559 hypocrisy has always been, you know, really interesting to me 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.880 that once the person gets here, you no longer care 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:52.000 about how they live or if they live. So, yeah, 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.400 I don't. I don't support the death penalty. I certainly 0:12:55.480 --> 0:13:00.679 understand when you have some situations where you know, it's 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.160 hard to look at someone or see someone living if 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.760 they've taken the life of your loved one, But I 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.120 just I don't I can't do it. Yeah, I don't 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:09.760 know what I would do if, you know, face it, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.080 like in a situation of self defense or something like that. 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.000 But the death penalty, sentencing someone to death is not 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:16.800 my choice, and I don't think it should be any 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:17.199 of ours. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.280 Yeah, Andrew, what about you? 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:24.679 Yeah, I mean, I've evolved on this one because you know, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:30.080 when I was younger, it was if someone did something 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.960 to my mother, I'd want to kill them, you know. 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.599 And now that I'm a you know, a husband or 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.199 a dad the three kids, I think, Man, if somebody 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.840 you don't got to kill them, if you you know, 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.040 if you do something that traumatizes them in such a way, 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:47.680 you touch them, you do you know, you you know, 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.839 you can imagine the scenarios in which you just want 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.920 to wrap your hands around somebody and bring them to heal. 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.200 But you know, the beauty is is That's why I 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.480 wouldn't be a jury rists in my and a trial 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.000 that involved one of my children right or one of 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.320 my relatives who I care about and love deeply. And 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.360 an evolved system, you would think that people would be 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:15.480 able to look at these things and and and even 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:20.280 for the families who have seen the aggressor put to 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.480 death for what they did in violation of their loved ones, 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.080 they don't feel any more complete at the end of 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.200 the day. They don't feel any more healed, they don't 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.760 feel any more hole, they don't feel any more reconciled. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.760 They don't feel like there was an eye for an eye. 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.840 There is no justice in that once you take my 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:41.360 love loved one's life, and I think the reverse also 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:45.760 has to be true. That being said, when I ran 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.120 for governor, I did come out against the death penalty. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.880 I still am today against it. But for me, it 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.440 was an evolution. I think I was thinking with my 0:14:55.480 --> 0:15:02.000 you know under you know, not most matured mind about it. Right, 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.000 It was retribution. It was if you've come from me, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:08.240 we come for you. And in an evolved system of justice, 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.080 I think we've got to we've got to figure out 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.880 as a society how to get beyond it. But you're 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:18.080 you're reporting on this Tiffany with regard to the disproportionate 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.800 application of the death penalty as a sentence when when 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.400 black folks sit in its crosshairs. Think about the number 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:31.120 of black folks who have been sentenced to death and 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:35.760 weren't even appropriately found guilty, like you know, they've been 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:40.440 adjudicated through you know, the Innocence Project or organizations like 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.560 that that are out there to to to make sure 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.280 that if you put someone on death row, you better 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.440 make sure, make sure, make sure, make sure, double check, 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.560 make sure that you've got the right person. And unfortunately, 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:57.000 if you execute someone that's irreversible, you can't take that back. Yeah, 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.960 uh so, and always I think we are impacted, and 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:03.680 I think we're impacted and get the short end of 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:07.240 the string on that one every time, and sentencing and 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.040 the application of when the death penalty gets ascribed to you, 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.840 and then obviously in the carrying out of the death penalty, 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:15.160 which you've highlighted here. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:15.840 Yeah. 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.880 Well, I mean, look, black and Latino men make up 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.360 fifty thirty one percent of the population and make up 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.359 fifty three percent of death row inmates. So it's outrageous 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.320 to see that this is happening. And I think you know, 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:32.000 the prison population is often overlooked and not talked about. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:33.640 And so we just want you all to know your 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:37.560 loved ones who listen to us, that our brothers and 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.880 sisters in prison, you are not forgotten about here at 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.400 Native Land. Welcome home y'all if you do get to listen. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.280 And just you know, we want y'all to know that 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.360 y'all on our hearts and we acknowledge your existence because 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.480 you matter. But this is right on topic with another 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:54.920 report that came out this week about police swelling their 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.640 ranks yet again. More police officers were hired in twenty 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.600 twenty three than in any previous four years, and fewer 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:05.000 officers overall resigned or retired. This is all according to 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.880 the two hundred and fourteen law enforcement agencies that responded 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.560 to a survey giving their numbers. And I bring this 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.399 up because pendulum swing and this one is swinging again. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.240 And just because it's not a breaking news banter where 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.400 we were seeing our blood spattered across TV screens every 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.920 few minutes, does not mean that these types of violence 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.840 aggression towards black people specifically aren't happening. We certainly see 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.320 it happening on college campuses, which we'll get into. But 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.640 if you guys, I want you to listen to what 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.679 police are facing. We actually hear from the Palm Springs 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.600 police Chief Andrew Wells, and he talks about like basically 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:43.480 what he's hiring. 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.040 So take a listen and we'll talk about it. On 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:46.360 the other side, this was. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.000 A horribly tremendous experience over the last few years where 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.040 you had COVID, the uncertainty of whether or not you're 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.000 going to come home because of that, and then real 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.800 and that right into a lot of social unrest. I 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.639 think that they're looking for, or that community where they 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:02.440 see support. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.520 He says, policing in twenty twenty three is a tougher 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.560 job than it's ever been, as officers are expected to 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.040 deal with social issues such as mental illness and homelessness. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.000 Right now, the police are the only ones here to 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.520 handle things that are incompany on all society. And I've 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:20.480 got a twenty four year old kid with a BA 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.480 degree or maybe a high school education, trying to solve 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.320 problems that PhDs can't solve. 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.880 So this is I think what we're seeing a lot 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:33.520 of across the country now with this overly pronounced police 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:37.400 force on college campuses. And this is not anything new, 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.000 do you guys, remember I police, forgive me if I 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.080 get this wrong. But there was a pool party somewhere 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:46.160 in Texas and this police officer ran and tackled this girl, 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.000 a teenage girl, like he was squaring off with a 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.919 linebacker and tackled her, a young black woman to the ground, 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.840 a young black girl to the ground. And I just 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:59.080 look at these statistics about police swelling their ranks, and 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:03.520 I just wonder, should this unrest end peacefully on college campuses. 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:07.480 That does not mean that this aggressive police increase is 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.920 going to end their tactics, So just want your. 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.119 Turfing on it. Yeah, yeah, Before you know, to go 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:17.800 back to the reporting, the reporter said that police are 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:21.320 dealing with issues that they haven't had to deal with before, 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.679 like homelessness and social unrest. Right as far as I 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:29.600 can remember, police officers, certainly in my community, we're dealing 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:33.719 with homelessness pre COVID back when you know, then two 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.000 thousand and three when I first ran for office, social issues. 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.120 I'll tell you what the big difference is. The big 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.320 differences is there is greater accountability. 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:42.760 Now. 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.199 We saw in the George Floyd case, the first you know, 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:50.880 near first successful prosecution of law enforcement for the murder, 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.920 the senseless murder of George Floyd. We know that through 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:59.720 body worn cameras, through people taking footage. You know, anytime 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:04.240 they see law enforcement encountering citizens, that the pressure is 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:10.639 on them to actually live up to the high expectation 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:15.160 that should accompany any job where you have the ability 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:21.679 to take life and almost be unaccountable for having taken life, 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.000 right if you if you carry the power of God 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.160 on your waist belt. There ought to be cameras. 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