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Speaker 2: I am here. My co host, my lovely Bobby Clifford
Speaker 2: is here. How you Bobby? Hi?
Speaker 1: How are you? Honey?
Speaker 2: I want to be up for the and joyful for
Speaker 2: our fans. But today is the day of recording. Ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen. We put up, we put up before we
Speaker 2: even get into this, and this is the base of
Speaker 2: our show. I just want to say, I hope everybody
Speaker 2: still has their wits about them and has your mind right,
Speaker 2: because if you did your part, if you voted the
Speaker 2: way you wanted to vote, and you did that, that's
Speaker 2: all you can do. We have no more control over
Speaker 2: what has happened. We as a Democrat, we lost the
Speaker 2: race to Donald Trump and so and here in Lafteline
Speaker 2: we are very fair. So we want to start off
Speaker 2: by saying congratulations to President elect Donald Trump. And as
Speaker 2: much as I didn't want him to be the president,
Speaker 2: he is still the president of the United States. So
Speaker 2: we want to say that. And we'll get into all
Speaker 2: of that later. And I know a lot of people
Speaker 2: are going through a lot of emotions, the gloom and doom,
Speaker 2: the depression, that what have you. But you can't take
Speaker 2: all that on because if you did your part, like
Speaker 2: I said, that's all you could do. That's all that
Speaker 2: you can do. There's nothing else you could do. We
Speaker 2: don't have power like that, but we have seeing how
Speaker 2: power works. Good God, So thank you guys for doing
Speaker 2: us here this week for that to learn. I'm just
Speaker 2: getting to New York City. I'm in New York in
Speaker 2: my Hotel Rower. I came from Nashville, Tennessee, from the
Speaker 2: City Winery with Tiffany had It And let me just
Speaker 2: say that Nashville, I are dooing you. You guys were fantastic.
Speaker 2: We had a great time, two great shows. You guys
Speaker 2: came out and really showed up and showed out. I
Speaker 2: actually worked last night on election night, Bobby, and we
Speaker 2: were sold out and people were just really trying to
Speaker 2: get away from looking at what was happening, even though
Speaker 2: they were stealing their phone, was trying to see what
Speaker 2: was happening. But now we know what it is. So
Speaker 2: we're here in New York City. I'll be at the
Speaker 2: City Winery with Tiffany had Its this Friday. The first
Speaker 2: show is sold out. We have two shows. The second
Speaker 2: show has last count maybe thirteen seats. So you better
Speaker 2: move fast because it's gonna be a big one. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Let's get on with the get on with the get on.
Speaker 2: How are you took?
Speaker 1: I'm in the past twenty four hours or pubably forty
Speaker 1: eight not good. Yesterday I had such a sense of
Speaker 1: I don't know, a heaviness about me. I couldn't even
Speaker 1: though you said, yeah, this is all about the elections.
Speaker 2: The right choice of words.
Speaker 1: No, but that's it's.
Speaker 4: It's I can't describe it any other way. It was
Speaker 4: I and my stomach was upset right from the morning.
Speaker 4: I felt uneasy and I don't know why, because everybody
Speaker 4: was thinking it was going to go a different way.
Speaker 4: At that point, I just said, even though this is
Speaker 4: what we do.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't watch it. I couldn't watch it.
Speaker 1: I think you He spoke at twelve thirty in the morning,
Speaker 1: and that was I was just putting it on two
Speaker 1: seconds before the phone rang, and I watched it for
Speaker 1: the three minutes we were on the phone, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I got to put this. I couldn't
Speaker 1: do it. So and by then though, we saw that
Speaker 1: the tides were turning. And then this morning I woke
Speaker 1: up and I didn't want to get out of bed,
Speaker 1: and I was upset. And then I said, you know
Speaker 1: what enough, exactly what you just said. You did your part.
Speaker 1: You've been talking about it for two seasons.
Speaker 2: We've been talking. We've been talking about it. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: that was not a heavy disviby. That's a blanket of
Speaker 2: weight and sadness. I'm actually glad that the election is over.
Speaker 2: You know, yeh, listen, it's done. It is done. We
Speaker 2: have to deal with the consequences of the actions of
Speaker 2: the people who did vote or who did not vote
Speaker 2: in him, because unfortunately what we wanted and what you
Speaker 2: guys wanted were not the same. But the ones who
Speaker 2: didn't want it, we will be the collateral damage for
Speaker 2: the ones that did want it.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll say, and we'll get into all of that
Speaker 1: as we start talking about it, like what he can
Speaker 1: actually do get away with. We see what happens with
Speaker 1: the house, right, and we'll get into all of that.
Speaker 1: But remember everything passed to the house first. So if
Speaker 1: by some miracle everybody say they're novenas I have my
Speaker 1: saying Jude prayer sitting here right here. I was praying
Speaker 1: to the son of a gun all night. We get
Speaker 1: the house, then there is a check and balance that
Speaker 1: does give us a guardrail. But so I got up
Speaker 1: this morning and I said, Bobby, you get one day
Speaker 1: to grieve, one day to feel crappy, one day to mope,
Speaker 1: and then you brush yourself off and you push forward. Right,
Speaker 1: And as Americans, we love a fight, so we have
Speaker 1: to continue to fight. We have to continue to protect
Speaker 1: each other. We have to try. Also, if the people
Speaker 1: in Washington, I'm going to take the vitreol and the
Speaker 1: hate down, we can do it. We can be a
Speaker 1: little bit better. And I had friends that were immediately
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them in years, but they were immediately
Speaker 1: posting all this nonsensical crap. All the Democrats are big
Speaker 1: cry babies. She didn't even give us speech. They're going
Speaker 1: to close down the highways to make us miserable. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, hold on, and I was going to
Speaker 1: post it, and then I didn't. First of all, she
Speaker 1: didn't give a speech, because you have to the order
Speaker 1: of things, the decorum of it is the loser in
Speaker 1: this case, Harris has to call the winner in this
Speaker 1: case Trump and concede to him directly. First. That's after
Speaker 1: all of the votes we're in. We saw where it
Speaker 1: was going, but it wasn't for sure. And then once
Speaker 1: she does that or he does that, then they give
Speaker 1: their concession speech. Well, Trump wouldn't take her call until
Speaker 1: one o'clock this afternoon. I'm sure that was all power
Speaker 1: and whatever. I don't care. It doesn't make it. That
Speaker 1: part doesn't make a difference. But I saw that, and
Speaker 1: I thought the Republicans weren't crying the last time. I'm
Speaker 1: like crying, there was an insurrection and happy you still
Speaker 1: don't believe that you even lost. But then I went,
Speaker 1: you know it's not worth it, are you? Okay? It's
Speaker 1: not airy no my side?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm sorry, it's my things, Harry Coy. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're going to but I'm only saying three seconds thirteen
Speaker 2: seconds now? So is that on my en?
Speaker 1: It might been youards? Okay, So six twenty all this conversation.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: All right, So it's six twenty. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to write it down. That's when we talked
Speaker 1: about this, and we're gonna stop up. We're going to
Speaker 1: stop right now.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So, so I just decided not to post because I
Speaker 1: didn't need to add to the negativity. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: let people say what you say. And I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: feel that way. Part of our problem is that we
Speaker 1: can't talk to one another. We should be able to
Speaker 1: talk like grown ups. You listen to me, I listened
Speaker 1: to you. We might not agree, and then you go
Speaker 1: on your merry way.
Speaker 2: That's when I decided that's the opperative word, right there,
Speaker 2: grown up, Let's start off with we lost the passing
Speaker 2: of a legend. Oh my god, I know one ninety
Speaker 2: one years old mister Quincy Jones, who has done a
Speaker 2: huge barrage of everything, has worked with everyone from Michael
Speaker 2: Jackson to Oprah Winfrey to you name it. He's been
Speaker 2: with David Boie, everybody, so everybody, so Michael Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 2: You know, he was the driving force behind them the
Speaker 2: biggest selling album of all time, which was Thriller Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: So and like you said, Bobby just a legend icon
Speaker 2: ninety one years old, ninety one years young. That's a blessing.
Speaker 2: That is a true blessing. And I'm just waiting for
Speaker 2: the book to come out because you know, keep a
Speaker 2: few years ago he was gonna write a tell all
Speaker 2: and a daughter stopped it, said he was he was,
Speaker 2: he was having a little taste of dementia. When that
Speaker 2: he's gone, tell it all.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure he had a ghost writer, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody somebody will do it. What I loved
Speaker 1: is years and he got to pass at home surrounded
Speaker 1: by his family, I thought that was that is a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. That's what I hope for all of us.
Speaker 1: That was a life while lived. He did quite a
Speaker 1: bit in his life. He's not going to have any regrets.
Speaker 1: But so yay, you know, good passing, whatever, whatever the
Speaker 1: expression is you want to use.
Speaker 2: Just a legend and this year twenty twenty four has
Speaker 2: been an eye opening you. We loft so many legends
Speaker 2: and this year is doing y'all. This year is not done.
Speaker 2: So stayed live each day like it's your last, because
Speaker 2: you don't know when it is your last. Where we going,
Speaker 2: Bobby Cliff, because I know we're going to spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time on today's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well let's but a few other things have been happening,
Speaker 1: so let's buzz through on a positive note. The Boeing
Speaker 1: strike is finally over. This is was the most expensive
Speaker 1: strike in history. I think it came in at between
Speaker 1: eleven and twelve billion. It had cost everybody. They did
Speaker 1: get they had a deal, they were used the deal,
Speaker 1: and then a week later they came with this one.
Speaker 1: Some people none of us ever saw the first deal,
Speaker 1: but they said this one wasn't so different. They got
Speaker 1: a pay increase of forty three percent, but over graduated
Speaker 1: over time, they're getting immediate rays of thirteen percent. Then
Speaker 1: they kind of ty trade it up. They're also going
Speaker 1: to get a ratification bonus of twelve thousand each which
Speaker 1: they can contribute to a four or one K if
Speaker 1: they want to. The one thing that they were looking
Speaker 1: for that they did not get. And unfortunately, I even
Speaker 1: know that the company that I worked for through the day,
Speaker 1: is that they didn't get the pension. They had their
Speaker 1: last agreement let the pension go in twenty fourteen and
Speaker 1: ten years later. You know, naturally no company wants to
Speaker 1: pick up a pension. It cost a fortune, so they
Speaker 1: didn't get that. I think that was the twelve K
Speaker 1: was the peanut that was offered to them. So anyway,
Speaker 1: they're backup in business. Something out I thought was interesting
Speaker 1: because I didn't hear of it, and I know if
Speaker 1: I didn't know, if you did only in you know,
Speaker 1: looking up what's happened in the news this week? Did
Speaker 1: I see that there was a PowerPoint in Tennessee. There
Speaker 1: was some man that was gonna blow it up. I
Speaker 1: don't know why he was going to blow it up.
Speaker 1: He was just moments from it. It would have left people.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was something over the election
Speaker 1: not it was in the Nashville area. They caught him.
Speaker 1: He was twenty four Skylar Philippi or Phillips or something,
Speaker 1: and he's he's got a white supremacy ideology. The FBI
Speaker 1: already has, they saw the plot. They have him. He's
Speaker 1: behind buyers right now and that's it. But I didn't
Speaker 1: hear anything about that, not in this area anyway.
Speaker 2: Okay, well girl, I want to do politics. I don't
Speaker 2: want to do well. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was public, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We don't know what that was about it.
Speaker 2: If he's a white supremacist, he probably already that. Their
Speaker 2: agenda is very different from everybody else's. So listen, I'm
Speaker 2: glad they caught him before he could do any Just
Speaker 2: structure and take anybody out.
Speaker 1: Me too, Me too. So economy, the DROPS report was down.
Speaker 1: It was only twelve thousand jobs. Nothing that they were
Speaker 1: surprised about, because remember we heard all those hurricanes, so
Speaker 1: they weren't. They weren't surprised about that. The number is
Speaker 1: because of the election. The stock market went through the
Speaker 1: roof today, So I don't know if we're taking that
Speaker 1: as a win, because the people who have anything in
Speaker 1: their stocks, are anything put away for retirement will benefit.
Speaker 1: And then the Fed looks like they're going to wrap
Speaker 1: up the year by another zero point two five cut
Speaker 1: to the interest rate.
Speaker 2: So speaking of stocks, speaking of stock, if you got
Speaker 2: any money right now, might be a really good time
Speaker 2: to invest in privatized prisons because I honestly believe that
Speaker 2: the stock is going to go up in prisons because
Speaker 2: Trump won and so many people invest. We talked about
Speaker 2: this on Lafelane before. In privatized prisons it is yeah,
Speaker 2: which means that they're going to have to put more
Speaker 2: people in prisons. So please be careful, lad because Projects
Speaker 2: only twenty five is on the docket and it is
Speaker 2: on the move, and it is very scary. Let's get
Speaker 2: to it, Bobby, Let's get to it. Let's get to it.
Speaker 2: Let's get to it. First of all, I want to
Speaker 2: say this before you go in any further. I hope
Speaker 2: that Kamala Harris, Vice President, Kamala Harris will take a
Speaker 2: week at least five to seven days of newer relaxation.
Speaker 2: The lady has been diligent. She has worked hard. The
Speaker 2: last two interviews I see in down two interviews, last
Speaker 2: two places I see her speech, she just looked exhausted.
Speaker 2: She looked like, I just don't want to think about it.
Speaker 2: I don't want it. I want to go to sleep.
Speaker 2: I don't want to comb my hair, I don't want
Speaker 2: to brush my teeth. I want to lay up under
Speaker 2: my husband and feel safe. And I pray that she
Speaker 2: can get her five to seven days of sun and
Speaker 2: relaxation and just don't think about nothing that has happened,
Speaker 2: because it's over now it is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she'll do it. And the only
Speaker 1: reason I want that for her too. And you know,
Speaker 1: let's face in January, she's going nothing but time. They
Speaker 1: have two and a half months, her and Biden. I
Speaker 1: have a feeling as we're speaking there's a power all happening.
Speaker 1: They're going to try to figure out now that now
Speaker 1: that whatever he does convert her. I bet you anything,
Speaker 1: they're sitting down figuring out they can actually get done,
Speaker 1: who they're going to release, who they're going to part,
Speaker 1: and what they can what they can potentially kind of
Speaker 1: push through. And then you know, in two and a
Speaker 1: half months, she's got as much time. I hope she
Speaker 1: goes away for a month and does nothing. I thought
Speaker 1: she looked exhausted too. I think she looked as pale
Speaker 1: as anything.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine having her having her schedule. I
Speaker 1: don't think they sleep for four hours. The last thing
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about before we got to that,
Speaker 1: just as as kind of a positive is did you
Speaker 1: see that former Kentucky policeman Brett Hankison was convicted?
Speaker 2: Very perfect Taylor. Yes, yep, finally some hopefully some justice.
Speaker 2: At least they have convicted him. Now, mind you, if
Speaker 2: this does not happen before Trump gets in office, he
Speaker 2: can get apart from President Trump. Because President Trump in
Speaker 2: Project twenty twenty five is given his promising the police
Speaker 2: for the community.
Speaker 1: But he even forget about Project twenty twenty five. That's
Speaker 1: that's important, But put that aside. He said that himself
Speaker 1: sayings Project twenty twenty five, he wanted to give them
Speaker 1: full autonomy. I think is the expression that he used. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said that back in December. So now that it's
Speaker 1: written in, now that we've seen Project twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: and we see that it's there's outlines of how that
Speaker 1: stuff will be handled. It's it's coming. It's yeah, it's coming,
Speaker 1: so we will well, we'll get to it. The only
Speaker 1: other thing I want to say is poor poor Zelenski.
Speaker 1: As soon as as soon as he won, believe it
Speaker 1: or not, that was the first thing I thought of.
Speaker 1: I'm like, he is screwed.
Speaker 2: I feel bad for Zelenski and the country of Ukraine,
Speaker 2: but I feel more bad for me and for black
Speaker 2: and brown and for black and brown people.
Speaker 1: Me too, me too, me too. All right, let's get
Speaker 1: to it. There's no there's no. So the election for
Speaker 1: the House is ongoing. The Senate and that's ongoing too.
Speaker 1: They're still counting votes for the Senate, but it's they.
Speaker 1: They are over. They're over the number to control it.
Speaker 1: Now we'll just see by how much they actually they
Speaker 1: actually will control it. So the positives are our friend
Speaker 1: Jason Lee, one councilman of Stockton Districts.
Speaker 2: Jason Lee, and y'all known being Jason Lee has had
Speaker 2: our running as congratulations to Jason Lee.
Speaker 1: He's trying to do the right thing. Doing service is important,
Speaker 1: something that I pray to God. We get the house.
Speaker 1: I'm a little scared but Sarah McBride of Delaware, she's
Speaker 1: going to be the first openly transgender person elected to Congress.
Speaker 1: I hope that she's received well there with this administration.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully she won't get to the floor and at
Speaker 2: the donkey like that last one. Did remember that other
Speaker 2: transgender she was in Congress, She was in a state something, yeah,
Speaker 2: and got to the floor and act the dunkey. They
Speaker 2: removed that. She was never allowed to come back in.
Speaker 2: So we've had from the LGBT community. We had a
Speaker 2: couple of representatives and and in service in government that
Speaker 2: has acted food. What was the other one named the
Speaker 2: guy who cheated?
Speaker 1: Oh he's not, he's not, but he was still part
Speaker 1: of the LGBT community from from New York, from Santos, Okay,
Speaker 1: Yes he was. But I always wanted to find out
Speaker 1: what what his lift glass color was because I loved
Speaker 1: that left gloss. They were full and puffy and I
Speaker 1: got up in serious and I kind of liked it.
Speaker 1: He had just a little not enough color. It's I'm
Speaker 1: kind of a low maintenance girl, so I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: The other saying one of the day he used that
Speaker 2: live gloss in his day life and in his night life,
Speaker 2: because you know, his day life, he was the lion senator.
Speaker 2: In his life life, he was the drag queen. I'm
Speaker 2: just wondering.
Speaker 1: I bet he had a little bit more punched to
Speaker 1: his color.
Speaker 2: I wondered that the live gross, the live gloss cross
Speaker 2: over it could from.
Speaker 1: From day tonight the sorry since Kamala Harris I think
Speaker 1: was the last black senator, we have two at the
Speaker 1: same time, one from Delaware, one from Maryland that are
Speaker 1: going to be serving two black women senators. So that's something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're taking our we gotta we gotta do the
Speaker 1: good with the bad.
Speaker 2: You know. Fannie Williams also won her sleep.
Speaker 1: She did and uh oh yeah, she absolutely did, and
Speaker 1: I thought, you go girl. Yeah, And of course we
Speaker 1: trump one the We know that the federal cases will
Speaker 1: go away, but the staatecases, so we won't hear from
Speaker 1: Jacksmith anymore. That will be that'll be gone, which means
Speaker 1: that Aileen Cannon that threw the case out for the
Speaker 1: documents down in Florida, that would have gone anyway. So
Speaker 1: we didn't end up losing anything, but she did potentially
Speaker 1: gain Attorney General a spot a spot on the list,
Speaker 1: the short list of attorney general. So we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens there.
Speaker 2: Look her way in and Elon must bought his way
Speaker 2: in allegedly. So yeah, that's so we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, in the end, I have to say to you,
Speaker 1: I was surprised, not shocked, but surprised just from everything
Speaker 1: that we're hearing in more, I can't believe as Americans
Speaker 1: that we have an impeached, two times impeached Felon that
Speaker 1: that is going to be representing us with all the
Speaker 1: hatred with the Madison Square guide in the know Puerto Rico,
Speaker 1: be in the.
Speaker 2: Garbage, with the insurrection against the Capitol, which was completely
Speaker 2: a bent with him saying point nine rifles should be
Speaker 2: pointed at Liz changed. He just just and every job
Speaker 2: application that you fell out, are you? Are you a feeling?
Speaker 2: Are you a criminal?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it anymore because he got the job.
Speaker 1: He took that black job, and he didn't check the box.
Speaker 2: He took that job. He took that job for being
Speaker 2: to the leader of the free world.
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't so she, But I was what I'm
Speaker 1: really surprised with flame though I think ninety percent of
Speaker 1: the vote is in right now has been counted that
Speaker 1: he is two ninety four and she's only two twenty three.
Speaker 1: That surprised me. I thought the numbers would be closer.
Speaker 1: I really did think she had a chance to win.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be messed up. It would be
Speaker 1: we'd be doing it for months trying to count those those.
Speaker 2: If we're going to be here honest on that and
Speaker 2: learn today. I really thought we had a chance of
Speaker 2: winning until recently, and I've talked about this on coffee
Speaker 2: time maybe about two and a half maybe three weeks ago,
Speaker 2: I was watching a football game, Yes, I watched football,
Speaker 2: and they were running Donald Trump's the Republican ads about
Speaker 2: they're going to send your kid to school as a boy,
Speaker 2: he's going to come home as a girl. And there's
Speaker 2: nothing you can do about it, because you know, they
Speaker 2: have made the laws to where the teachers can't even
Speaker 2: call the parents. It's a crime for you to tell
Speaker 2: for a teacher to call you, Bobby, tell you what
Speaker 2: your kids doing or how they decided they want to
Speaker 2: identify ads. When I saw that, Bobby and I saw
Speaker 2: it three times, doing one football game three times. I'm
Speaker 2: a parent, I'm also a part of the LGBT community.
Speaker 2: It shocked me, like what so I knew what they
Speaker 2: were doing. They were weaponizing the transagenda and pushing fear
Speaker 2: like you wouldn't believe this is how he won our
Speaker 2: fear bullying, ignorance, and sexism, and they pushed that trans narratives.
Speaker 2: They had five things we talked about. The economy, of
Speaker 2: course that's in there, and of course the immigrants, but
Speaker 2: that fear, bullying and ignorance because you don't know. Ignorance
Speaker 2: is not that you don't want to know, it's that
Speaker 2: you don't know, and sometimes you don't want to know.
Speaker 2: And the bullying, I'm going to get you back. He's
Speaker 2: never stood on one promise or policy that he has promised,
Speaker 2: but guaranteed he is going to stand on I'm going
Speaker 2: to get you back if you came out to me.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I believe he's going to stand on.
Speaker 1: Well, I get nervous. I'm nervous with Chris Christy ms Cheney,
Speaker 1: Kelly Millie. I am nervous. We'll see. I don't know
Speaker 1: what he can actually do. They might get audited for
Speaker 1: the rest of their lives, Like I don't know what
Speaker 1: he actually do because as you just said, he didn't
Speaker 1: keep the promise before. I don't know if he will,
Speaker 1: but he did have people that were held with guardrails.
Speaker 1: They left him after short periods of time, and as
Speaker 1: he said, they weren't loyal to him, but they kind
Speaker 1: of kept him in check. So we're really going to
Speaker 1: have to look to see what this what this cabinet
Speaker 1: is going to look like. He's batting around things. I
Speaker 1: was reading in one article I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was CNN that was saying that he might hire everybody
Speaker 1: quote unquote as tempts basically because then they don't have
Speaker 1: to go through the Senate or any you know, nobody
Speaker 1: else has to look at it. He can himself make
Speaker 1: the decision. And I'm thinking most people are tempts with
Speaker 1: them anyway, because they didn't last all that long.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The person that lasted the longest that just came out
Speaker 1: I came out against him and said they were voting
Speaker 1: for Harris. So but I was very proud that both
Speaker 1: President Biden and Vice President Harris reached out to him
Speaker 1: to congratulate him. She asked him to be the president
Speaker 1: for everybody, and Biden offered to have him come in
Speaker 1: and catch him up, to meet with the two of
Speaker 1: them and catch him up. He didn't do He did
Speaker 1: do it with Obama, but I don't think he did
Speaker 1: any like, he didn't take notes. He didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he would do that. You know, this time
Speaker 1: it leaves We have to remember that it leaves the
Speaker 1: Senate seat for vance open and what happens usually it's
Speaker 1: different state by state. But the governor, Mike, Mike Dwine
Speaker 1: is a Republican and he will he'll fill that seat.
Speaker 1: There's two years left on the seat. He'll fill it,
Speaker 1: and then he'll probably be up in the midterm elections.
Speaker 1: That seat will be up. It'd be nice if we
Speaker 1: could start working on it now. Everybody in Ohio.
Speaker 2: You're saying that Trump, President Biden and Kamala Harrison is
Speaker 2: going to bring him in for a debriefing of what's happening.
Speaker 2: But I think people forgot that. They say it publicly
Speaker 2: that he never liked to listen to the daily briefings.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't read him. He didn't want to hear they had.
Speaker 2: They had to bait him with good news because he
Speaker 2: didn't want to hear the bad news. I'm telling you
Speaker 2: everyone to have forgotten so many things that was happening,
Speaker 2: and how it's too late. It is just too late.
Speaker 1: By I remember President Obama saying that he had him
Speaker 1: in and he came in and he said, actually, when
Speaker 1: he was explaining about the Affordable careacter, he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not bad. That actually is a great idea that
Speaker 1: you know, blah blah blah blah. But you know, he
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. He didn't Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, So let's go to the negatives of what's
Speaker 2: going to what's possibly going to happen, because nobody can
Speaker 2: predict the future. But with the promises of Project twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, social Security may be cut, Medicare, food stamps,
Speaker 2: public housing, public school, the FBI may get the Department
Speaker 2: of Justice may be defunded. The police will have full immunity.
Speaker 2: It is the LGBT. They may dissolve gay marriages, the trains,
Speaker 2: the funding for medica medication and surgeries and hormone therapy replacements,
Speaker 2: and the non for profit organizations. So many things are
Speaker 2: into online. The abortion. The abortion. Oh my god, I
Speaker 2: have daughters that God forbid because they're definitely not ready
Speaker 2: to be mothers. And I know both of my daughters
Speaker 2: are of that age, you know, of being sexually active.
Speaker 2: Of course I don't ask them, and I'm not well,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't give out their business. Say I'll know everybody
Speaker 2: knew it or didn't know it. But if that God
Speaker 2: forbid or something happened and they got pregnant, they're definitely
Speaker 2: not ready to have a baby. I think the only
Speaker 2: thing that would save us because we live in California
Speaker 2: and Gavin Newsom is not having any of it. California
Speaker 2: might be one of the safest havens to live in
Speaker 2: this union. Boston is safe too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're Democrat, you know, we're seventy percent Democrats still,
Speaker 1: so we would. But let's let's wind that back just
Speaker 1: for two stays. Okay, let's not call it an abortion.
Speaker 1: Let's say in five years your girls are married or
Speaker 1: they just they're ready to have a family, they get pregnant,
Speaker 1: they're four or five months along, and the feetus dies
Speaker 1: or something terrible happens. There was a twenty one year
Speaker 1: old that died in twenty twenty one in Georgia, and
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't give her the DNC because there was
Speaker 1: still a heartbeat, they had to wait until the heartbeat
Speaker 1: was over. By then she was so septic she died.
Speaker 1: So it didn't have to be that you're making a
Speaker 1: choice that you don't want the child. We're talking about
Speaker 1: regular husbands and wives, and it's all encompassed. I think
Speaker 1: what has happened. I think we won the midterm elections.
Speaker 1: One of the reason we did so we were supposed
Speaker 1: to take a blood baths, if you remember, but we didn't.
Speaker 1: We held our own and even gained a couple of seats,
Speaker 1: is that people were so outraged because Dobs had just
Speaker 1: come out. But now you know how people have short memories,
Speaker 1: and people like you and I that are that are
Speaker 1: in states they're going to protect. Some of the states
Speaker 1: have got some protections. There are some that have gotten worse.
Speaker 1: But it's a number of states. It's not all the states.
Speaker 1: And I think people have forgotten. So that's what. So
Speaker 1: the things you talked about things that we can control.
Speaker 1: So we're just we just talked about JD. Vancy seat
Speaker 1: and Ohio Democrats rally and Ohio try to really push
Speaker 1: the for two years for the midterm election, push your
Speaker 1: Democratic candidate, let's win that seat over and you know,
Speaker 1: keep keep pushing on on things like reproductive rights. There's
Speaker 1: stuff by vote, voting locally, by paying attention that we
Speaker 1: can do. It's it feels hopeless today, but we're Americans.
Speaker 1: We're tough, we're tough nuts. We're gonna we're gonna get
Speaker 1: through this. But we I don't want to hear people
Speaker 1: moaning and grown in when when their child is on
Speaker 1: an education plan and we have no Department of Education
Speaker 1: any longer. And oh my god, what about little Bobby. Well,
Speaker 1: little Bobby if you voted for the one who loved education.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Alon Musk made a statement maybe a week
Speaker 2: ago to say, we're about to follow on some hard times,
Speaker 2: but they won't be they'll be temporaries. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: DL Hughley made a great statement. Now, what would this
Speaker 2: billionaire know, the richest man in the world know about
Speaker 2: hard time? Fall on hard times, hard time. Hard times
Speaker 2: for us could be were in a soup kitchen, we're
Speaker 2: in a soup plan. It could be a lot. So
Speaker 2: I'm telling you guys right now, hold on to what
Speaker 2: you have, stock up if you can, because we don't
Speaker 2: know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've already told my family and everybody's on board
Speaker 1: with it. I look paycheck to paycheck because I have
Speaker 1: very large student loans, and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think we're doing a non Christmas Christmas this year.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll celebrate the day, we'll all be together there,
Speaker 1: but we don't need stuff. I'd rather try to pay
Speaker 1: down my debt or put put it in a cookie
Speaker 1: jar somewhere. Elon Musk, the Pennsylvania judge, said that his
Speaker 1: one million dollar sweepstake thing was Okay, they haven't really
Speaker 1: given at least I can't find the rationale. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's somewhere that I'm just not smart enough to figure
Speaker 1: out because it's not run, it's not really a sweepstake.
Speaker 1: The person is known prior or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that maybe the the the district attorney that
Speaker 1: was in Pennsylvania maybe should have written it up a
Speaker 1: little bit differently. But that's that's sort of out of
Speaker 1: the picture. I heard Trump say last week in something
Speaker 1: he was he was doing an interview and they were
Speaker 1: asking about Elon Musk being in the cabinet, and he said, oh, no,
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's he's much much too busy to be
Speaker 1: in the cabinet. H the Sean ra Show, it was
Speaker 1: where I heard it. He said, I would absolutely give
Speaker 1: it to him, but he's going to be too busy,
Speaker 1: But I might. I like his idea, so I might
Speaker 1: bring him in as a consultant. And I got to
Speaker 1: tell you, I'm hanging on to that today because more
Speaker 1: than the president only has so much power. It's the
Speaker 1: house in the Senate. That's why I'm hanging onto the
Speaker 1: house with my my fingernails. But Elon Musk scared me
Speaker 1: because he was gonna gut everything. He wanted to get
Speaker 1: rid of everything that anything that's federal, any duplication, any
Speaker 1: monies that are given out and then start start over again.
Speaker 1: So what are people doing in the meantime that live
Speaker 1: on all that? So I was sort of happy to
Speaker 1: hear that the MAHA movement make America healthy again. Robert
Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior is doing it. I believe he's an environmental attorney.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell he knows, other then
Speaker 1: he doesn't like vaccines. He wants to take flooride we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a bunch of buck tooth or no tooth
Speaker 1: kids walking around because they're not gonna have any floor
Speaker 1: right in the water. For Christ's sake, you.
Speaker 2: Putting the man who has brainwork, who has made it
Speaker 2: brainworm in charge of mental health girl, I mean in
Speaker 2: charge of a girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, absolutely crazy. Some of some of the other
Speaker 1: names are Maco Rubio for Secretary of State. We talked
Speaker 1: about Alien Cannon being the in line for the Attorney General,
Speaker 1: Mike Mike Pompeo. He already had Mike Pompeo serve as
Speaker 1: the CIA director. But he's talking about maybe again secretary. Oh,
Speaker 1: he was a Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, excuse me,
Speaker 1: or something to do with national security. Ramaswami is looking
Speaker 1: for Department of Homeland Security. You know he's gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna wipe that nose off first because he went in
Speaker 1: deep to to try to after calling him every name
Speaker 1: or not named, trying to run against him. Uh. But yes,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to watch the cabinet people. That's
Speaker 1: what we're really going to have to pay attention to.
Speaker 2: Do you think let me ask you, Bobby, do you
Speaker 2: think he's going to find a seat for Nicky Haley? No?
Speaker 1: Would he be smart to because I will tell you
Speaker 1: NICKI Haley is a patriot. She wouldn't go against the constitution.
Speaker 1: I don't like her, and I think she's a big
Speaker 1: flip flopper, which I thought Pence was like. But Pence
Speaker 1: in the end did the right thing. And I think
Speaker 1: I truly think that she would. But you know, I
Speaker 1: think he's threatened by her.
Speaker 2: Well, ya to be smart. Well, I understand that the people,
Speaker 2: all the people who were part of the January sixth insurrection.
Speaker 2: He has already promised a party. I'm sure he's going
Speaker 2: to parton Ruy Giuliani as well as so many others.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Bobby, to watch this unfold. I don't
Speaker 2: think I could write this in a book. I don't
Speaker 2: think the best Spise novels could have wrote written all
Speaker 2: of this in a book. Just like.
Speaker 1: This is the biggest, the biggest comeback going. Somebody that
Speaker 1: who was up as rear end was Netnihahu, who actually
Speaker 1: fired his defense minister this week. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that's going to mean for us, if it's going to
Speaker 1: actually meet anything, but he would he congratulated on a
Speaker 1: Trump because they're there. There are two birds of a feather,
Speaker 1: And Zielinsky said that, you know, he could appreciate him
Speaker 1: coming ruling from a place of power, but he's probably
Speaker 1: I feel so as I said, I feel terrible for
Speaker 1: him because we're not going to get we're not going
Speaker 1: to get very far from him with him.
Speaker 2: I think, by my own personal opinion, how all this
Speaker 2: is unfolded, I think our country will be in turmoil
Speaker 2: for a year for I mean for I mean in
Speaker 2: despair for a year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I heard as they were talking last
Speaker 1: night some of the talking heads and put channel five
Speaker 1: for me as ABC. So Chris Christy was on, Johnna Brazil,
Speaker 1: I adored Donna Brazil, Jonathan carl there were a few others,
Speaker 1: and they were going back and forth and Chris he said,
Speaker 1: you know, he's only if he wins, he's only going
Speaker 1: to be effective at best for two years. He said,
Speaker 1: you have to remember he's going in as a four
Speaker 1: It is a four year president period. He doesn't get
Speaker 1: to run for another for another seat, you know, for
Speaker 1: another four years, so you get two years before you
Speaker 1: sort of become a lame duck. At that point, the
Speaker 1: GOP will change their direction, whether it'll be Vance. We'll
Speaker 1: see how Vance does over the next two years or
Speaker 1: or somebody else that they have in line, and the
Speaker 1: attention will be taken off of him. Also, what happens
Speaker 1: in two years is we have the we already talked
Speaker 1: about it. We have the midterm elections, and we potentially
Speaker 1: could pick up seats and that could really make them
Speaker 1: ineffective if we'll see what the number is in the
Speaker 1: end that the Senate wins by. If we picked up
Speaker 1: those seats and we dead locked them again.
Speaker 2: The narqust needs some balls. They need some balls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the best I can think of it, And I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think the words that aren't. I find that
Speaker 1: this new mega Republican Party they're brutal, you know, like,
Speaker 1: and I don't mean that in a nice way, but
Speaker 1: I find the Democrats fineless. Yeah, we don't have our
Speaker 1: messaging right.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna even say two years for him, Bobby,
Speaker 2: because we've watched his speeches, We've watched him babel and
Speaker 2: go left him and forget. So I don't even know
Speaker 2: if he will make it a whole year, honestly, because.
Speaker 1: Jesus sliding off that cracker and he.
Speaker 2: May go completely rambo, and the people around him will
Speaker 2: have to go till him, whether they want to or not,
Speaker 2: because they'll see that it's going to cost too much
Speaker 2: detriments to the country.
Speaker 1: No, I agree with that, and I so we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to a how Vance does. So
Speaker 1: Vance we know Vance is a is a flip flopper
Speaker 1: and he's a b I'm kissing her.
Speaker 2: Because of he I think he's a bottom could be.
Speaker 1: But we start in twenty sixteen that he had called him,
Speaker 1: he called him America's hitler. He's also said I've been
Speaker 1: disparaging things. So the fact that I blame the two
Speaker 1: of them, Trump would have anybody, Would you have anybody
Speaker 1: that that that spoke that way. He's so big about loyalty.
Speaker 1: I'm shocked that he had him in. And we'll see,
Speaker 1: you know, what he would do, how he'll do, and
Speaker 1: how well he'll do under Trump over the next two years.
Speaker 1: And we have to pay attention to the Secretary of
Speaker 1: State because if that did happen where they had to
Speaker 1: remove the president, the VP will come up and the
Speaker 1: Secretary of State will come up. So I hope one
Speaker 1: of those people is fairly dances.
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that he picked Advance because he's Trump
Speaker 2: is so to me from the outside looking in the
Speaker 2: way that Trump likes his power. He likes to know
Speaker 2: that at one time you didn't like me, but now
Speaker 2: I got you kissing my ring. I think he I
Speaker 2: think he gets off on that he strokes the microphone
Speaker 2: as we watched him stroke. I think he strokes the
Speaker 2: microphone off.
Speaker 1: Today I felt really badly. I'm thinking, either Millennia isn't
Speaker 1: doing her job, or you know, he's hoping she will.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was giving her a few subliminal pointers. But
Speaker 1: I think of this, we have to accept the results.
Speaker 1: This is our democracy. That's this is what our country
Speaker 1: is built on. We blamed the other side when they
Speaker 1: didn't accept in twenty twenty, but it made me sad
Speaker 1: because the ninth is the fall of the Berlin Wall, right,
Speaker 1: so that was the beginning of democracy and the and
Speaker 1: I just thought, look at the mess we're in. In
Speaker 1: thirty five years, we were so solid and now we're
Speaker 1: nothing but a big mess. I also don't like the
Speaker 1: idea of listening to Trump's the crazy talk. I was
Speaker 1: so happy to think that we wouldn't have to listen
Speaker 1: to that stupid rhetoric all the time. We will have
Speaker 1: that for four years, whether he's effective or not.
Speaker 2: Oh, we have a class.
Speaker 1: Every day.
Speaker 2: If it's anything indicative that first term, we will have
Speaker 2: a press conference every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he he talks more than I do.
Speaker 2: Nobody talks more than you, Bobby Cliffs.
Speaker 1: But I have something that I have something to say,
Speaker 1: and I don't. I usually don't forget where I'm coming.
Speaker 2: But he's a closed number two. But nobody tells him.
Speaker 1: Oh, but that's all I mean, I don't. We just
Speaker 1: have to we have to work together. You know, Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanders was was bullshit. He came out and said that
Speaker 1: the Democrats have abandoned the had abandoned the working class
Speaker 1: for the past so many number of years. It wasn't
Speaker 1: shocking that they abandon us. He was very angry over
Speaker 1: her losing and the way that everything was hand sol.
Speaker 2: This is this is our.
Speaker 1: That's what he was saying, you know, like it's ours again.
Speaker 1: We don't have the messaging. We don't we're afraid to
Speaker 1: be in deference where the the Republicans, which has been
Speaker 1: super successful for them, they don't care who they run over,
Speaker 1: they don't care who they talk about, who they run over.
Speaker 1: You could be the best person I mean, just listen
Speaker 1: to Trump. He hired them, they were wonderful you just
Speaker 1: heard in a press conference, and then the bombs three
Speaker 1: months later when he lets them go. They don't care.
Speaker 1: We sat in deference. We sat in deference to to Joe.
Speaker 1: If Joe was truly in decline, as they said, from
Speaker 1: what we saw now people on his immediate staff, whether
Speaker 1: they didn't notice it, they said, what they saw at
Speaker 1: that debate is not what he's like. And I saw
Speaker 1: him just an hour later jarring with his people, and
Speaker 1: he wasn't. But things were there were there were reasons
Speaker 1: to be concerned, not over that day. As George Stephanopolos said,
Speaker 1: he was concerned, in three years, would would he still
Speaker 1: be would he still be able to perform? And he
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't agree, Yeah, but we have to. He was
Speaker 1: That's what he was saying.
Speaker 2: He goes.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine for the first year or two.
Speaker 1: It's after that. I truly believe that. I think Joe
Speaker 1: had no intention of doing the full bet. I think
Speaker 1: he was going to give it to her. He was
Speaker 1: going to slide her in for two years and then
Speaker 1: let her run for another tell you.
Speaker 2: Two years, And I wish Joe would have did that
Speaker 2: a year ago. And I wish the Democrats would have
Speaker 2: had a plan when Joe won, because Joe was going
Speaker 2: to be this age in four years and they knew that,
Speaker 2: so what did they think. Of course, he was going
Speaker 2: to get older and slower, and you know, but they
Speaker 2: didn't have a plan he should. I wish Joe now
Speaker 2: and I was team Joe, and you know, but I
Speaker 2: wish you would have stepped down a year ago, made
Speaker 2: her the president, and then people would have seen her
Speaker 2: in this position because it was the unknown that scared people.
Speaker 2: Is she ready? Is she going to be able to
Speaker 2: do it? But if she was already there, set in
Speaker 2: that seat, doing the job, then it would it would
Speaker 2: have took away a lot of that fear of the unknown.
Speaker 2: But it didn't. I'm telling you, Bobby, there was so
Speaker 2: many variables that we lost on this. And I'm going
Speaker 2: to say this about the trans community, of the community
Speaker 2: to the community I used to be part of. I'm
Speaker 2: still trans. I'm just not a part of their community,
Speaker 2: not the crazy ones. Anyway, when they started with all
Speaker 2: the whole I'm a more woman than a woman. A
Speaker 2: woman is just an x X chromosome. And this, and
Speaker 2: that the third and a woman is a social construct.
Speaker 2: I was like, y'all doing too much for the allies
Speaker 2: that we've always had effectively, then they started messing with
Speaker 2: the kids, and and then anybody could be trans now anyway,
Speaker 2: and you've seen these people on tiktoks and all these
Speaker 2: social medias with the wig on and beards and the
Speaker 2: hair on their chest. Well, i'm a woman here as
Speaker 2: a woman, I'm going into the women's bathroom. I am
Speaker 2: a trans woman. I am also a parent of daughters.
Speaker 2: If I was at a public restroom and I saw
Speaker 2: somebody that looked like Donald Trump with a wig on,
Speaker 2: no makeup, no effort to try to look like walk
Speaker 2: into the women's bathroom, I'm going to have a problem
Speaker 2: with that, and I'm going to say something. And I
Speaker 2: am trained, so I'm going, now, you can't be here
Speaker 2: in the bathroom with my daughter because it's it's just inappropriate.
Speaker 2: But they kept pushing the narrative because trands again is
Speaker 2: not on you, it's in you. I think that was
Speaker 2: a big push and it scared the hell out of people.
Speaker 2: It pushed people away, and they you, when they found
Speaker 2: out that it scared people, they used the trans narrative
Speaker 2: to weaponize it against us, to make people afraid of
Speaker 2: us that.
Speaker 1: In their reproductive light rights. You get the super religious,
Speaker 1: the evangelicals and et cetera. They already they already had
Speaker 1: to fight up against the reproductive rights because everybody that
Speaker 1: isn't super religious were for it. So they were. I mean,
Speaker 1: there were four states past measures to protect at Arizona, Colorado,
Speaker 1: New York, and Maryland. So that was good. But I
Speaker 1: agree with you, these are they picked their they picked
Speaker 1: their messaging. He's stuck on brand, and we didn't. We
Speaker 1: the people were they were worried of about their pocket book,
Speaker 1: and they were worried about immigration. And we kept saying
Speaker 1: to them that the economy is great. It is great.
Speaker 1: It's great as far as not in the every day.
Speaker 1: But we bounced back from the pandemic faster than anybody else.
Speaker 1: We avoided a recession. We had that soft landing that
Speaker 1: we spoke about last week. Our money is coming the
Speaker 1: money is coming up, the costs are coming down, but
Speaker 1: it's going to take a long time. If they if
Speaker 1: they could have said, I understand they did in the end,
Speaker 1: I understand that you're concerned, but this is why the
Speaker 1: prices are up. You know, Joe Biden didn't say to
Speaker 1: you know, Hostess, raise all your cupcakes up. But he
Speaker 1: can only do so much. It's a world market. It's
Speaker 1: if we're willing to spend the money on those Hostess cupcakes,
Speaker 1: we will pay the buck fifty more. They're going to
Speaker 1: keep charging it. They would have, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: whole formula. I am not an economist, but if they
Speaker 1: explained it in layman's terms, maybe people would have understood.
Speaker 1: If they had said, we made mistakes on the border,
Speaker 1: but we're going to build on it, maybe people would
Speaker 1: have understood.
Speaker 2: And since the pandemic, price gallenging has become commonplace, it
Speaker 2: really has. It really has just become commonplace. With the
Speaker 2: price galleging, people are raising prices excessively, ridiculously, and don't
Speaker 2: let it be a disaster. They go crazy with that
Speaker 2: because people seem to have no compassion for another human being.
Speaker 2: It's crazy by me. It's just, oh my god, it's
Speaker 2: out of control.
Speaker 1: And people are wondering what's going to happen to JD
Speaker 1: vance guys. JD fans, he didn't go anywhere. He was
Speaker 1: the governor and he's going back to a state as
Speaker 1: the governor, he has two years on his seat. All
Speaker 1: that happened is his lieutenant governor slid over, and she
Speaker 1: would have taken the seat had he had common Wo
Speaker 1: been elected. She slid over while he stumped, you know,
Speaker 1: did all the stomping. So he just goes back to
Speaker 1: where he came from. He had a really successful twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, getting a lot done. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it's going to be like for him going back there,
Speaker 1: you know, especially where they voted Republican.
Speaker 2: I think the Democrats should have had lions like childish
Speaker 2: cat ladies and should have been mean and nasty, because
Speaker 2: it looks like that's what America wanted. They wanted the
Speaker 2: most trifling, mean, nasty statements, the disrespectful that I don't
Speaker 2: care about it, and because that seemed to have won.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy that was just Let me just give
Speaker 2: an example that we just had a contest in the
Speaker 2: community in Atlanta recently, just this past weekend, and it
Speaker 2: didn't go the way people thought it was going to go.
Speaker 2: And the one girl had a gripe and she was
Speaker 2: on there doing her gripe and being negative and not
Speaker 2: necessarily negative, just expressing her point of view. She had
Speaker 2: eight hundred people. But if you go on last to
Speaker 2: talk about the importance of this election to vote, you
Speaker 2: get twenty people. The negative is winning. The hate, the bitterness,
Speaker 2: the anger is winning. The love is dust.
Speaker 1: People love, people love missing. I don't I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't mind talking about what's out because there are things
Speaker 1: that like the Diddy thing, we talked about that and
Speaker 1: we'll follow that is is because it does influence, It
Speaker 1: influences things in society. But I don't always like to
Speaker 1: talk about or I don't want to always just talk
Speaker 1: about nothing but stuff like that. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: there are other things that are important, and we have
Speaker 1: to remember, you know, justice or the way we feel
Speaker 1: in democracy, it doesn't end with the ballot box. It's
Speaker 1: something that we live every day. It lives in our hearts,
Speaker 1: it lives in how and we have to again brush
Speaker 1: ourselves off and keep moving. You know, the fight's not over.
Speaker 1: It will never be over until we figure it out.
Speaker 1: But we got to get smarter, We got to get
Speaker 1: we got to get a little dirty. We don't have
Speaker 1: to be the victory. All has to stop. We don't
Speaker 1: have to do that, but we got to hit them.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hit him at the knees. I'm going to
Speaker 1: be interested to see if Biden does anything over the
Speaker 1: next fourteen weeks.
Speaker 2: I would love to see Biden gold just Rogue and
Speaker 2: Ham and just really I don't know. I know what
Speaker 2: you say, Bobby, that he's his intergedy. I still don't
Speaker 2: like the fact that the way all of this has
Speaker 2: went down and he has to leave the office, and
Speaker 2: Biden is almost like the forgotten man right now because
Speaker 2: people seem to have forgotten he as the president. I
Speaker 2: still would like for him to get I know he
Speaker 2: said he wouldn't, but I would like for him to
Speaker 2: pardon his son. I would if he does nothing else,
Speaker 2: and I wish he would do some other things. I
Speaker 2: would like to see him part in his son.
Speaker 1: He won't because he'll show favoritism. But I will tell you,
Speaker 1: as we just talked about them having a powow, I
Speaker 1: guarantee that they're sitting down Kamala and Joe and trying
Speaker 1: to figure out who they can pardon, what they can do,
Speaker 1: you know, can they make pot legal everywhere? Like, can
Speaker 1: they federally? What can they do by the executive order.
Speaker 1: People think it's a stroke of a pen. I think
Speaker 1: Trump thought that until he got in there. It's not
Speaker 1: like that. There are guardrails that are set up in
Speaker 1: our constitution that only give the presidency so much power.
Speaker 1: They don't want a dictator and they don't want a king.
Speaker 1: So but I bet you anything, he's trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what he can actually get done. Mitch McConnell. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Mitch mcconnald's talking about defense spending has
Speaker 1: to be up because it is cheaper to fund a
Speaker 1: war than to actually be in it. No shit, a Mitch,
Speaker 1: way you been, honey, did you have one of your
Speaker 1: frozen moments? Joe's trying to get money for Zelensky and
Speaker 1: oh no, you know they're busting horns on that, but
Speaker 1: you know, and telling how he's handling it.
Speaker 2: Wrong, Mike. Mitch McConnell been in popstickle mode.
Speaker 1: He's been frozen, he's been something. You know, his his
Speaker 1: his value is he's losing a little bit as well.
Speaker 1: I think this is the last term anyway. I think
Speaker 1: he said his seats might might be might be one
Speaker 1: of the midterm election seats. Stop working people, who do
Speaker 1: you want to see in there. Stop promoting them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Democrats, we have to have a plane that is,
Speaker 2: that is, we have to have a major strategic and
Speaker 2: stop talking about it. Move in silence, but move like
Speaker 2: a machine underground and make it happen. It is. It's crazy, Boby.
Speaker 1: We have to be we have to be stuff. Right now.
Speaker 1: We have one hundred and ninety two seats for the House.
Speaker 1: The Democrats do. Republicans have two to eight. But before
Speaker 1: you we had a lot of seats not counted, a
Speaker 1: lot of seats in a lot in in democratic areas,
Speaker 1: you need two hundred and eighteen for control. So let's
Speaker 1: hope that we get fifteen seats. I would like to
Speaker 1: I would really like it to be much over. I'd
Speaker 1: like to see Hawkeem Jeffreys in there doing something. Right now.
Speaker 1: We flip flopped, the Dems lost four seats and the
Speaker 1: GOP picked up again four seats. We're like training right now.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see us hold a little something.
Speaker 2: When I agree with you. I'd like to see Kim Jeffery.
Speaker 2: He has a cool level here and he speaks with
Speaker 2: an intelligence that Mike Johnson is a hot head and
Speaker 2: he is completely kissed the ring too. When you took
Speaker 2: Ramaswami's face out of that over position, Mike Johnson's face
Speaker 2: is right up in there.
Speaker 1: Other than they could lose the seat, I would not
Speaker 1: be surprised if Mike Johnson would vie for something else,
Speaker 1: Secretary of State, something you know, with a little more
Speaker 1: power and a little more flash. I think King Jeffery
Speaker 1: is when the when the vitriol Marjorie Taylor Green and
Speaker 1: all her nonsense starts talking. I think, just like Nancy Pelosi,
Speaker 1: he will shut that ship down. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna let it go on.
Speaker 2: Bobby, let me ask you a question when we have
Speaker 2: our listener fansens before we head out of here. Do
Speaker 2: you think that she should have made a different choice
Speaker 2: for the vice presidential Canada de pick. Do you think
Speaker 2: she should have chosen Josh Shapiro That would have possibly
Speaker 2: got us Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: She went by a gut reaction. I can't it's tired
Speaker 1: to Monday morning quarterback. Why she did it. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they got along beautifully. I certainly I knew
Speaker 1: nothing about him. He's a lovely man, Josh Shapiro. I
Speaker 1: think I was surprised that they didn't go for a
Speaker 1: swing state or a battleground state that we were desperate for.
Speaker 1: To be cool, I have to be really honest with you,
Speaker 1: Josh Shapiro. I don't know if Josh Shapiro wanted wanted
Speaker 1: the seat she was going for more than like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they would have butted head. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that would have been. Like I think I
Speaker 1: don't know if she spoke with President Obama at all,
Speaker 1: because President Obama still will say, other than Michelle, one
Speaker 1: of the smartest things he ever did was pick Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: You know, he sat back, he looked who could give
Speaker 1: the Where was he weak? President Obama foreign policy was
Speaker 1: one of the places and he picked someone based on that.
Speaker 1: So where we all, oh, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, no, no, no, finished finish your statement?
Speaker 1: Where we only had one hundred and seven days. And
Speaker 1: I thought she ran a very solid campaign for one
Speaker 1: hundred and seven days. I think that her team as
Speaker 1: well should have been a little bit more strategic of
Speaker 1: knowing there were battleground states. Maybe one of those battleground
Speaker 1: states Michigan, right, we could have had Although people would
Speaker 1: never have gone for two women.
Speaker 2: I only asked that question because watching how aggressive and
Speaker 2: nazzy the Republicans were. Josh Shapiro plays their game. He
Speaker 2: plays the same way they played.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: So I thought that the America would have respected her
Speaker 2: more if she had that bulldog by her side. Tim
Speaker 2: Walls is not that bulldog. Tim Walls is a nice
Speaker 2: the pluffy, but Shapiro is a He plays just like them,
Speaker 2: And I think that's what we're not doing. We're not
Speaker 2: getting I remember I said, you've got to get down
Speaker 2: in the dirt with them, because they're in the dirt.
Speaker 1: That's what we have to do. I mean, we have
Speaker 1: to do that moving forward again. We don't have to
Speaker 1: be bashing people and saying terrible things about people. Just
Speaker 1: do the friggin work. Go in there, look at it,
Speaker 1: scope it out, and be stealth, be like a Navy
Speaker 1: seal on your belly, just smiling as you're passing them by,
Speaker 1: knocking each one of them off. That's what we have
Speaker 1: to do. But we don't do it an we're a
Speaker 1: bunch of pussies.
Speaker 2: I hope say Bobby said, y'all not mean.
Speaker 1: Trump can say it, and he's gonna be the sitting president.
Speaker 2: I certainly can say it to he was just don't
Speaker 2: let him, just don't let him grab you, as Bobby.
Speaker 1: Please, he'd need five hands, his milania is and maybe
Speaker 1: one of barons.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's all I got.
Speaker 2: Listen, we get with this, ladies and gentlemen, whatever we
Speaker 2: are faced against, whatever we are, like Bobby staying, we
Speaker 2: are Americans, Americans, not a notoriously known for fighting. We're
Speaker 2: gonna stand up for ourselves. It's just hard when we're
Speaker 2: fighting our own people. We're not fighting other countries, We're
Speaker 2: not fighting some strangers. We are fighting our own people.
Speaker 2: So while he kept saying what what the what was
Speaker 2: he calling us the danger within? What did he say
Speaker 2: the enemy within? We we I'm not saying that he's
Speaker 2: our enemy, but I'm damn sure not saying he's in
Speaker 2: kahoots with us. Keep your head on the swivel, staying
Speaker 2: the words of T TJ and stay safe. We don't
Speaker 2: know what's going to happen, but we do know that
Speaker 2: we like why we said, we're in the democracy. We
Speaker 2: have to stand up ourselves. And most of us are
Speaker 2: living from paycheck to paycheck and just trying to survive.
Speaker 2: Elon Musk, who I'm damn sure. Sure he's going to
Speaker 2: put in a very high position on his cabinet, said
Speaker 2: that we are going to face some very hard times. Temporary,
Speaker 2: temporary for us could be a year or two years,
Speaker 2: because temporary for him seems to be a day or two.
Speaker 2: So what you guys do is stay strong, stay diligent, listen.
Speaker 1: To you have you have you.
Speaker 2: Get them interested in political science, Get them interested because
Speaker 2: we got to stop putting us on us to see
Speaker 2: to take to receive us, because we keep letting other
Speaker 2: people who don't think like us, who don't live like us,
Speaker 2: who don't understand our ups and downs because they are
Speaker 2: either super wealthy or the super privileged. They'll never understand
Speaker 2: what the regular Americans like they is like. They're never will.
Speaker 1: You know what makes me sad. I think of your kids,
Speaker 1: your kids ages exactly perfectly. They don't know what it
Speaker 1: was like with politics for you and I flame where
Speaker 1: we saw people working across the aisle, shaking hands, duking
Speaker 1: it out all day on the floor, going to get
Speaker 1: a drink tip O'Neil, Joe Moakley. You know McCain and Biden,
Speaker 1: they don't know what they were gentlemen, you know they weren't.
Speaker 1: They weren't up calling people using the P word and
Speaker 1: the C word and and all that just nonsense, the swearing,
Speaker 1: the the et cetera, et cetera. You know, ur Sirish
Speaker 1: Laurel Hamilton had an expression, and this is what we
Speaker 1: have to do. We have to support each other and
Speaker 1: this is this a private fight or can anyone join?
Speaker 1: And that's what we have to do for each other.
Speaker 1: We have to be We love a fight, especially the Irish,
Speaker 1: we love a fight. You're going to fight for your friends.
Speaker 1: We've got to be on each other's shoulders, looking out
Speaker 1: for each other, and then we're going to get through this.
Speaker 1: It's as Flame said, it's going to be a really
Speaker 1: tough first year because even in Washington it's going to
Speaker 1: be horrible growing pains. He's the only valid for two years.
Speaker 1: We can do two years. We just did it. Flame
Speaker 1: and I have been together doing this for two years.
Speaker 1: For the love of God. We can do it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2: I love you, Bobby, I appreciate you. Play Man. People
Speaker 2: out here on Laugh and Learn Land they're probably listen.
Speaker 2: We thank you, Thank you, for doing your job. Thank
Speaker 2: you for voting yep, thank you for listening, thank you
Speaker 2: for encouraging, thank you for inspiring. We did our part,
Speaker 2: You did your part. Now we just got to stay
Speaker 2: in this together because a lot of us want to
Speaker 2: leave America. That sounds great, that sounds like you look,
Speaker 2: do you know how expensive that he is? Though honestly it's.
Speaker 1: Not really yeah, and it's not much better at other places.
Speaker 1: And you know what we sound like, We sound like
Speaker 1: sowred losers because, strangely enough, and this is the part
Speaker 1: that blows my mind, the other side was just as
Speaker 1: terrified that Kamone would get in as we were for Trump.
Speaker 1: You know, so somebody has to It's democracy. This is
Speaker 1: what we were fighting for. She did. She did a
Speaker 1: peaceful handover and a transition of power the way it
Speaker 1: should have been. The last time. I'm back with with
Speaker 1: although I want to I want to slightly change, and
Speaker 1: I'm back with Michelle Obama. When they go low, we
Speaker 1: can go high. Just you know, you're gotta be a
Speaker 1: little dirtier than that, though. Just keep moving, you know,
Speaker 1: don't don't turn your other cheek. Just keep it going
Speaker 1: and support the people that have in issues because depression
Speaker 1: right now is real thing.
Speaker 2: We have a whole America, we have a whole country
Speaker 2: of America. And I'm telling you the realization of me
Speaker 2: knowing how popular he was amongst the other side was
Speaker 2: when I went to Big Salem, Pennsylvania. Because we only
Speaker 2: see what we want. If we don't want them, we
Speaker 2: don't want them. But when I went to Ben Salem
Speaker 2: and I saw all those shrimp sunds, I talked to
Speaker 2: you guys about this on here on laugh A learned
Speaker 2: I knew then, Oh my god, for all of us,
Speaker 2: for as much as us that don't want him, there's
Speaker 2: a whole other side that does want him, and they
Speaker 2: came out here, they came out heavy. So listen, here
Speaker 2: are laughing, alarn. We're not trying to get you to
Speaker 2: change your man. We are only trying to get you
Speaker 2: to use your man because why Bobby.
Speaker 1: Because your mind and your vote or a terrible thing
Speaker 1: to waste. So keep up the good fight, everybody.
Speaker 2: And we will see you guys next week. It's not
Speaker 2: the end of the world, but it's it's just a
Speaker 2: dark day in America. But it's definitely not the end
Speaker 2: of the world. And so don't take it. And if
Speaker 2: you guys are feeling too much anxiety and will please
Speaker 2: talk to somebody professional to just get the relieve off
Speaker 2: of you. But remember again, you have no There's a prayer.
Speaker 2: There's a saying that they say at the AA meetings.
Speaker 2: It's a serenity prayer. Remember, I think it's God.
Speaker 1: The serenity to accept the things I cannot change, to
Speaker 1: change the things that I can, and to have the
Speaker 1: wisdom to know the difference. I'm a map. We have
Speaker 1: a bunch of drunks, I know.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, and that's what you guys need to understand
Speaker 2: that that's the only way you're going to find peace
Speaker 2: because you have no control over what has happened. It
Speaker 2: is a done deal and we just have to stay
Speaker 2: Americans and stay strong. This is Flame Monroe. You can
Speaker 2: follow me on all social media platforms at Flame Monroe
Speaker 2: and Bobby where can they follow you at?
Speaker 1: They can find follow me at Bobby Clifford on Facebook
Speaker 1: and Clifford Bobby on Instagram. And I think I'm Bobby
Speaker 1: Clifford on TikTok of the Road use it much. Something
Speaker 1: I want to remind us from from September because it's
Speaker 1: Suicide Prevention Month in September. The number nine nine eight.
Speaker 1: If you feel that you're you don't have somebody that's
Speaker 1: around you that you can speak to, you can call
Speaker 1: nine nine eight and that is staffed twenty four to
Speaker 1: seven if you need help.
Speaker 2: Ooh girl, that sounded like my condo. Okay, okay, Thank
Speaker 2: you guys so much for joining us. Thank you to
Speaker 2: our producer mister Aaron, and we will see you guys
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