WEBVTT - 026 Rich on Tech Radio Show - July 1, 2023

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on on rich Demiro And this is rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech, this show where I talk about the tech

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<v Speaker 1>stuff I think you should know about. It's also the

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<v Speaker 1>place where I answer your questions about technology. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that technology should be easy, helpful, and sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>while worthy, it could also be frustrating. I get that

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<v Speaker 1>phone lines are open at triple A Rich one oh one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one eight eight eight seven four to two, four

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<v Speaker 1>to one zero one. Give me a call. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have a question about technology, email is also open. Send

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<v Speaker 1>it to hello at Richontech dot TV. Happy. Uh, fourth

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<v Speaker 1>of July weekend? Is that a thing is fourth? It

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<v Speaker 1>is fourth of July weekend, right, because fourth of July

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<v Speaker 1>is coming up, and this is the weekend that precedes it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is fourth of July weekend. So good weather,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully where you are. Hopefully you've got some plans, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about if Fourth of July has been

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<v Speaker 1>impacted by technology, and I think it has. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how. Drone shows, so I think some of

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<v Speaker 1>you will be watching and I know this sounds wild,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of actual fireworks, I think you'll be watching drone

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<v Speaker 1>fireworks shows. I have not personally seen one of these

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<v Speaker 1>in the flesh. But I know they're happening, and i

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<v Speaker 1>know they're happening around town, and I'm sure they're happening

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<v Speaker 1>where you are, so kind of cool. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to pick up all the stuff afterwards. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the standard I'm gonna have to do a

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<v Speaker 1>comparison of the traditional fireworks show and the drone fireworks show.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the boom of the fireworks is probably

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<v Speaker 1>more fun. Although if you live in Los Angeles, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know this from personal experience, the fireworks continue for

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<v Speaker 1>about a week in the LA area. Even though somehow

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<v Speaker 1>fireworks are not allowed in this area, everyone has them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think last year I had to go to

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<v Speaker 1>work the next morning and I wake up pretty early

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just all night long. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>want fireworks in your neighborhood, It's happening in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe the drone shows are better.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've got a lesson to tell you about this week.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a really you know, I'm not I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like to be a downer, but and this is not

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<v Speaker 1>like a downer story. Don't feel sorry for me whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am going to tell you a story, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a pretty good lesson to be learned

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<v Speaker 1>from it. So here's the story. I drove home from work,

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<v Speaker 1>parked my car on the street. My wife was leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>So typically I like to park my car in the driveway, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just because it's a sense of security. My car's in

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<v Speaker 1>the driveway, no one's going to hit it in the driveway. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I park it on the street, and sure enough, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do my thing inside, my wife leaves whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>I come outside. This was late late in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>so this was all the way, you know, six seven,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hours later. And the first thing I do when

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<v Speaker 1>I come outside is look at my car. And it's like, literally, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck happened to this car? Someone clearly hit

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<v Speaker 1>my car and it was just totally messed up. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, and they were all outside playing basketball in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the house, and I said, none of you

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<v Speaker 1>notice the car is just totally messed up. And they

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<v Speaker 1>all look at it like, oh my gosh. First thing

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<v Speaker 1>I do is look at my car. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>habit that I just look at my car to see

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<v Speaker 1>what has happened to it since the last time I

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<v Speaker 1>was in my car, and so immediately I've got one

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<v Speaker 1>of these cars that has the full DVR system, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so it records from all angles. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, I didn't want this to happen in

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<v Speaker 1>my car, but it did. And I've got the best

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<v Speaker 1>possible outcome. I have got picture, video proof of what

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<v Speaker 1>just happened. And so I open up my car and

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<v Speaker 1>I go to the dash cam which is built into

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<v Speaker 1>the car to it's like a little DVR basically, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wait for it and it's slow. It's not the best.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like it takes a while to get warmed up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it gives you a list of all the things

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<v Speaker 1>happened that all the things that happened in your car

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<v Speaker 1>while you weren't there. And sure enough it's not there.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait what I don't have this on video? The hit

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<v Speaker 1>and run driver, the license plate, whatever, it's not there. Ugh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember I turned off the DVR functionality when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in my home area because I park my car

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<v Speaker 1>in the driveway. Why would I need that, right? And

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<v Speaker 1>so first off, I just think to myself, Okay, that

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<v Speaker 1>was really not a smart move. Rich, But the good

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<v Speaker 1>news is I've got some other cameras around the house.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me check the ring cam. So I go

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<v Speaker 1>to the ring cam, and the ring cam does not

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<v Speaker 1>capture it because guess what, there's a giant tree in

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<v Speaker 1>front of where I parked my car, so it captures

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<v Speaker 1>everything accept my car. I could literally see everything happening

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<v Speaker 1>outside my house except where my car is parked. This

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<v Speaker 1>tree is huge. Okay, let me try the other cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got some nest cams that record twenty four to seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's check those cameras well. Sure enough they got Well

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<v Speaker 1>the tree again blocks it. But the audio is there,

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<v Speaker 1>but none, you know, it's just you can't see it again,

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<v Speaker 1>the tree is blocking it. So what are my lessons?

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<v Speaker 1>And actually I misspoke on the ring cam. The ring

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<v Speaker 1>cam seese my car, but the ring cam only does

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<v Speaker 1>motion alerts, so it actually didn't capture whenever this damage

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<v Speaker 1>happened to the car recorded either before or after or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's my lesson. And this is what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't feel sorry for me. Look, the car is a

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<v Speaker 1>mechanical thing, right, so nobody got hurt. Yes, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pain in the you know what to get this thing

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<v Speaker 1>fixed because I already brought it to a place and

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<v Speaker 1>all parts are a month, and you gotta do this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a whole big thing to get it back

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<v Speaker 1>to square one. And by the way, don't get me

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<v Speaker 1>started on spending money on things that gets you back

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<v Speaker 1>to where you were.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've ever gotten your tire replaced or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>your car literally drives exactly the same, except now you

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<v Speaker 1>just spent a whole bunch of money on a new tire.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't get me started on that. But my point is, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the car will get repaired. Everyone's safe, it's okay. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the lesson I learned from this situation. Number one.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got these cameras. Check your settings. Know the limitations

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<v Speaker 1>of your cameras. So you probably set up these cameras

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<v Speaker 1>like your ring cam or your security cameras or your

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<v Speaker 1>car dash cam and you never thought about it ever. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>take the minute to go through the app, go through

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<v Speaker 1>the settings and see how this thing is set up.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, on my ring cam, if I would have

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<v Speaker 1>had the setting to record motion events longer, maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>would have captured this. Because the way the ring cam

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<v Speaker 1>works is it starts to record and then it'll record

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<v Speaker 1>for like ninety seconds, it'll send that clip to the

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<v Speaker 1>cloud whatever. But then it stops and there's usually a

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<v Speaker 1>timeout period to save the battery where it doesn't record

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<v Speaker 1>right away, because if it just kept doing that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every time the tree moved in front of it, it

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<v Speaker 1>would just record the whole day and the battery'd be

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<v Speaker 1>done in like ten minutes. So check the settings on

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<v Speaker 1>these things. Also check to see the angles of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>so in the future, I will probably not park where

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<v Speaker 1>this big giant tree blocks the view from the cameras,

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<v Speaker 1>because this whole system would be a little bit easier

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<v Speaker 1>if I had some information about who hit my car.

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<v Speaker 1>So go through the settings. Know the limitations of your cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they on at certain times, are they off at

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<v Speaker 1>certain times? When do they trigger? How do they trigger?

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<v Speaker 1>And also probably consider getting a dash cam because it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where when something like this happens

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<v Speaker 1>to you, it's a big headache. And if you can

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<v Speaker 1>feel just a little bit better knowing that, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get maybe some recourse on your insurance or your deductible.

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<v Speaker 1>So go for a dash cam. And when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at dash cams, you want to find one that has

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<v Speaker 1>a motion sensor, so it can have some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>motion detection or some sort of G you know, G sensor,

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<v Speaker 1>so if it senses your car moves, it will start recording.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, if you have ring already, they've got something

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<v Speaker 1>called the Ring Cam, which I really like. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the first generation, so it's obviously they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>build upon it, make it better. But that one does

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<v Speaker 1>record if something you know, uh hits your car, not motion,

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<v Speaker 1>It won't do motion, but it will do if something

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<v Speaker 1>actually moves your car. So in this case, that would

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<v Speaker 1>have definitely triggered.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have one of these cars that actually

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<v Speaker 1>has a system in it that records, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>several of them, just check out the settings, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that it's actually recording, make sure that it actually works,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure they're familiar with how it works. Because in

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<v Speaker 1>my case, it's all too late. There's nothing I can

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<v Speaker 1>do at this point except you know, I even went

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<v Speaker 1>to my neighbor who had cameras, and I got I

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<v Speaker 1>made friends with my neighbor, and you know, he checked

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<v Speaker 1>all of his cameras and couldn't find anything either. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was a mysterious uh you know self, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the car just like self imploded. I don't know. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>just just be aware of this stuff and don't cry

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<v Speaker 1>for me. It's not a big deal. The car will

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<v Speaker 1>be fixed, but it does ruin my perfect record of

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<v Speaker 1>I guess hitting runs. I don't know, does that go

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<v Speaker 1>on your record? First thing, I asked the guy at

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<v Speaker 1>the car place. I was like, Hey, does this make

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<v Speaker 1>my insurance go up? He's like, oh, it'll just go

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit next time you get your renewal.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, it doesn't really go up. I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 1>just said two different things, Like what all right? Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up on this show, We've got some great guests this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Sam Rutherford, senior writer for n Gadget. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have his review of the pixel Fold smartphone. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we've got Roger Anderson. You might have seen him in

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<v Speaker 1>the news. He came up with an AI chatbot system

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<v Speaker 1>that just messes with telemarketers and robo callers. Then later

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<v Speaker 1>we've got Buttam Laskin, the co founder and CEO of Swimpley.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna explain how you can make money renting out

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<v Speaker 1>your backyard pool, which they've been doing for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>but now also your backyard tennis court if you happen

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<v Speaker 1>to have one of those you're really fancy, or a

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<v Speaker 1>pickleball court. You're really on the cutting edge there. And

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<v Speaker 1>then later in the show, Jefferson Graham, friend of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to join to talk about how to take

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<v Speaker 1>photos of fireworks or should you even bother taking photos

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<v Speaker 1>of fireworks? But first, as always, it is your turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Your call is coming up next at triple eight rich

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<v Speaker 1>one on one. That's eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. Give me a call if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a question about technology. My name is Richdmuro

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<v Speaker 1>and you are listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>you talking technology on this holiday weekend. You know you

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<v Speaker 1>can follow me on social media. I am at rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>follow me on Instagram, you're wondering why haven't you posted

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<v Speaker 1>in a while? Well, I had something go viral, and

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<v Speaker 1>anytime something goes VI or you pick up a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of new people that really don't know who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I've been like paralyzed with fear about posting

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<v Speaker 1>something new because I just imagine all those people are

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be like, wait, who's this? Let me

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<v Speaker 1>unfollow them. So I'm just kind of letting it percolate.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Shana in Brea, California. You're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Rich, thank you for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for calling. What's up?

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<v Speaker 4>You're welcome. So my mom had something happen this week

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<v Speaker 4>where she got text messages from her bank that she

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<v Speaker 4>banks with, but it was for charges that she didn't recognize,

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<v Speaker 4>and it asked her to click on a link to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about what the charges were. And thank goodness that

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<v Speaker 4>she called her bank with the number that she knows,

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<v Speaker 4>but she still was so tempted to click on those links.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was trying to explain to her that you

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<v Speaker 4>can't do that, and she pretty much knows that. But

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<v Speaker 4>I know that because I get training at work. I

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<v Speaker 4>have to watch tutorials for five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're so boring, but they are.

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<v Speaker 4>Helpful, they are, and that's why I know about those things.

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<v Speaker 4>And I find not to click on an email link,

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<v Speaker 4>even if it's somebody that I know, if I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>expecting the email and it's got hey have you seen this?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's got a link for me to click.

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<v Speaker 1>I know not to do that now, even though you're tempted,

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<v Speaker 1>I know people.

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<v Speaker 4>That aren't in the workforce that don't get that training.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there somewhere that they can go to.

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<v Speaker 5>Get that knowledge?

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<v Speaker 1>Great question, And I'm glad that your mom didn't click

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<v Speaker 1>on those links because and this is the thing they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I get these texts my wife this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>we're sitting down for breakfast, and she like shows me

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<v Speaker 1>her phone. She goes, oh, I just got a link.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to confirm this delivery address for this shipment

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't order. And so, you know, we had

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<v Speaker 1>a little laugh. But the reality is people do fall

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<v Speaker 1>for these They fall for them all the time. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great, great question about Yes, those of us

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<v Speaker 1>in the workforce, we are constantly being reminded if you

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<v Speaker 1>get an email from outside your organization, it's marked with

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<v Speaker 1>big red letters. This came from outside your organization. Do

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<v Speaker 1>not click on the links. Be cautious. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go through those training videos and those

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<v Speaker 1>little quizzes and things to make us more aware of

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. So here are two great resources I

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<v Speaker 1>think are perfect for anyone that's got a loved one

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<v Speaker 1>that they want to teach this stuff to the first

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<v Speaker 1>one is called scamspotter dot org. Scam spotter dot org

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<v Speaker 1>and this is almost like what you do at work,

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<v Speaker 1>where it lets you go through you can watch some

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<v Speaker 1>videos about some of the scams that are actually happening

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<v Speaker 1>out there. You can learn more about those scams, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can test your knowledge about these scams. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is brought to you by the Cybercrime Support Network

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<v Speaker 1>and also Google. They work together to create this and

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<v Speaker 1>it goes through all the different scams that are popular nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>It tells you can you spot these things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be skeptical of urgent pop ups, which I've talked to

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<v Speaker 1>people who get caught on those. Investigate the company on

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<v Speaker 1>usual payment methods.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This person emailed me or I think it was through Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget what it was. But they're like, hey, Rich

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<v Speaker 1>I've got someone in the hospital. I need to get

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<v Speaker 1>them a gift card, but I can't make it to

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<v Speaker 1>the store and buy it myself. And I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me help you get that, just to mess with them,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, okay, great, can you go to the

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<v Speaker 1>store buy an Apple gift card and send me the number,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, no, no, no, you can easily do this yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I sent them the link to the Apple website

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<v Speaker 1>where they can buy a gift card. They stop replying. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recommend that you do that. In fact, my

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<v Speaker 1>wife said that she an eight hundred number or some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of number called her yesterday and she wanted to hear,

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<v Speaker 1>like was this person real? And so she pressed one.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I never recommend that you interact with these

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a text, whether it's a phone number, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's an email. Do not interact, even though I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you I do it. I do it out of research

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<v Speaker 1>and out of helping you, and I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>where these things go so I can understand these scams better.

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<v Speaker 1>But please do not interact with these things, because what

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<v Speaker 1>happens is imagine they're like we got a live one.

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<v Speaker 1>They send to a bunch of phone numbers. If you

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<v Speaker 1>reply back to them, now they know they can really

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<v Speaker 1>target you. And it may not be with that scam,

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<v Speaker 1>it may be with others. So again, scamspotterer dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>And the second one is actually from the Better Business

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau BBB dot org. Slash scam tracker. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>really handy because you can not only report scams, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can also understand the scams that are out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can look up a keyword. So right now,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the biggest scams going around are pet scams,

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<v Speaker 1>pyramid schemes, consumer fraud lawyers, cash app scams, and tax fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you can literally type in a keyword usps

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<v Speaker 1>and see what other people are reporting about that scam.

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<v Speaker 1>Type in the word piano. I'm looking at all these

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<v Speaker 1>different things. Type in an app, blood work. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many different scams. If you type in one keyword,

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<v Speaker 1>you can teach your loved ones that, hey, other people

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<v Speaker 1>are having these same exact texts come to them and

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<v Speaker 1>they are totally totally a scam. Great question, Shana, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for calling in appreciate it. Phone number is

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<v Speaker 1>triple eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four to one zero one. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people asking about this apple my photo stream. I

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<v Speaker 1>will explain what you need to know about that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later in the show. We talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>on a previous show. But for sure, I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of percolating in the news media again, so I

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<v Speaker 1>will explain what it means that Apple is shutting down

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<v Speaker 1>my photostream. But coming up next, we've got a great guest.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Sam Rutherford, senior writer for n Gadget. He

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<v Speaker 1>is going to have his review of the Pixel fold smartphone.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Pixel, this is Google's eighteen hundred dollars smartphone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a foldable and he says it's got some good

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<v Speaker 1>things going for it, but also need to know the bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Rich on Tech. Joining me now is

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Rutherford, senior writer at n Gadget. Sam, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, good to be here. So let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>Google tax soel fold.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of foldable phones on the market, but

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<v Speaker 1>now Google is getting into it with this eighteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars phone. You have reviewed it, So what is your

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<v Speaker 1>first impression of this device?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, and you think right away when you

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<v Speaker 7>look at the competition. What Google did with the design

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<v Speaker 7>is really interesting because they have a wider exterior display,

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<v Speaker 7>which has a lot of impacts on how you use device.

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<v Speaker 7>But most importantly, it just makes the exterior screen a

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<v Speaker 7>lot more usable when you compare it to something like

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<v Speaker 7>Samsung's Galaxy z Fold four the skinny. The skinny design

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<v Speaker 7>on Samsung's device feels really cramped, especially when you're trying

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<v Speaker 7>to type. But on the pixel Fold, it means you can,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, all your apps behave normally, and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you never feel like you need to open it up,

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<v Speaker 7>which is kind of an interesting juxtaposition for a foldable device,

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<v Speaker 7>but it allows you to you know, do more with

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<v Speaker 7>the outside screen, and then when you open it up,

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<v Speaker 7>you feel like, hey, this is what I'm going to

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<v Speaker 7>use for you know, watching movies or multitasking and stuff

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<v Speaker 7>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So pixel Fold has a five point eight inch exterior screen,

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<v Speaker 1>when you open it up it has a seven point

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<v Speaker 1>six inch interior screen. Now, you set in your review

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<v Speaker 1>for nd Gadget that you have been using a foldable

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<v Speaker 1>device as your daily driver for three years. Now tell

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<v Speaker 1>me about that.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I was really interested in, like the whole

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<v Speaker 7>flexible screen technology, and so I jumped on with the Galaxy.

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<v Speaker 3>Z Fold two and I've been using their devices.

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<v Speaker 7>For the last three years, partially because you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>like the technology, but they were also the only kind

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<v Speaker 7>of real game in town, especially outside of China, where

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<v Speaker 7>you know, our options are a little bit less or

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<v Speaker 7>more more limited when it comes to foldable devices.

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<v Speaker 1>Foldable devices are clearly going to be a thing because

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<v Speaker 1>we have upcoming foldables from one plus now Google has

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<v Speaker 1>one on. Samsung is of course going to launch their

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<v Speaker 1>new foldables at the end of July, and then people

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<v Speaker 1>are of course waiting for Apple to come out with theirs.

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<v Speaker 1>But what makes a foldable device so compelling to you?

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it's really all about adaptability.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, if I just want to do something quick,

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<v Speaker 7>or you know, check an app or check a notification,

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<v Speaker 7>respond to a text, whatever, you have the outside screen.

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<v Speaker 7>But when you want to watch a movie, everyone's talking about, Oh,

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<v Speaker 7>I always want to watch a movie or video on

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<v Speaker 7>the biggest display I can. So you open it up

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<v Speaker 7>and suddenly you have a significantly bigger screen. It just

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<v Speaker 7>makes everything better, you know, whether you're playing games, you're

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<v Speaker 7>watching videos, or you're trying to multitask, which is something

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<v Speaker 7>that like a lot of people don't necessarily think of

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<v Speaker 7>as possible on a standard device or a standard phone,

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<v Speaker 7>just because the screen is a little smaller, it's a

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<v Speaker 7>little more limited, and you don't really necessarily always have

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<v Speaker 7>the right controls to be able to manage multiple apps

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<v Speaker 7>at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was testing the Samsung Fold for I really

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love with the idea that this phone did everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But the funny thing was, I ended up doing everything

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone. So I was reading my kindle ebook

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<v Speaker 1>on there, I was watching movies on there, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just seemed like I was, you know, even though that

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<v Speaker 1>time might have been divided between a phone, a computer,

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<v Speaker 1>and a tablet, it felt like, oh my gosh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>literally using this phone twenty four to seven now. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's so flexible.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because, like you kinda that's a group of good point,

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<v Speaker 7>because you it combines so many devices into one. Like

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<v Speaker 7>you said, it's an e reader, it's a movie watcher.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. You have a little taskbar on both.

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<v Speaker 7>The Samsung z Fold four and the Pixel Fold that

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<v Speaker 7>allows you to like, you know, do simultaneous multitasking. And

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<v Speaker 7>so to me, I love that simplification because I think

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of people nowadays they want less devices in

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<v Speaker 7>their life, less devices I have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Worry about, they have to worry about keep charged.

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<v Speaker 7>And so if you can get rid of, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>a tablet and an e reader and you only have

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<v Speaker 7>to worry about your phone and maybe your laptop two.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, that.

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<v Speaker 7>Simplification is just a great weight off my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get back to the Google Pixel fold. So

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<v Speaker 1>the software is pretty much Google Pixel software. Anything notable

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<v Speaker 1>or different about the software that you liked in this phone.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean the main thing is for definitely per

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<v Speaker 7>power users. You have that taskbar, and Google is doing

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<v Speaker 7>something a little bit different with the taskbar because instead

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<v Speaker 7>of having something in that does permanently there all the time,

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<v Speaker 7>there's a new gesture that you can use to sum

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<v Speaker 7>in the taskbar. It's a you know, short swipe up

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<v Speaker 7>from the bottom of the screen and from there, like

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<v Speaker 7>you can open your app into a multi window mode,

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<v Speaker 7>and then once you're done with that, the taskbar disappears.

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<v Speaker 7>So it appears when you need it and then it

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<v Speaker 7>gets out of the way when you don't. And it's

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<v Speaker 7>a really interesting approach to make multitasking a little bit

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<v Speaker 7>more easier but also less kind of in your face

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<v Speaker 7>all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And what about the optimizations of some of these apps

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<v Speaker 1>because Android has kind of been all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Apple, you've got the iPhone, you've got the iPad.

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<v Speaker 1>Developers are pretty pretty clear about what they do for

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<v Speaker 1>those devices, but Android it could be all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you find that apps were like that or were

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<v Speaker 1>they pretty much optimized?

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, That's a big part of it, and I think

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<v Speaker 7>that actually speaks to part of the reason why Google

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<v Speaker 7>launched this phone in the first place, because you know,

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<v Speaker 7>with the introduction of the pixel Fold, Google was able

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<v Speaker 7>to get more than fifty first party apps optimize for

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<v Speaker 7>devices like the pixel fold that has a flexible to screen,

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<v Speaker 7>and that means you're talking about supporting things like adaptive

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<v Speaker 7>screen resolutions, but also more interesting UI and app layouts

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<v Speaker 7>that take advantage of the pixel folds design. So you know, say,

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<v Speaker 7>for things like YouTube, you can fold it in half

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<v Speaker 7>and rest it on the table and you'll get a

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<v Speaker 7>different UI that makes it you know, so, hey, you

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<v Speaker 7>want to sit down for lunch and watch a quick

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<v Speaker 7>video on your lunch, but you don't have the laptop

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<v Speaker 7>with you.

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<v Speaker 3>This is perfect.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't have to hold the device that sits up

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<v Speaker 7>on its own, and it's great for that. Unfortunately, the

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<v Speaker 7>problem with that is that it takes a little bit

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<v Speaker 7>of extra work on the developers part. You know, they

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<v Speaker 7>need to convince developers that like, hey, these optimations are

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<v Speaker 7>or optimizations are worth making, but also get enough devices

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<v Speaker 7>out in the real world that there are enough customers

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<v Speaker 7>demanding that developers like, hey, I love what your app

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<v Speaker 7>is doing, but hey, is there something else that we

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<v Speaker 7>can do to really take advantage of, you know, this

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<v Speaker 7>uncoming wave of foldable devices.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the camera on this device? I mean, clearly

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<v Speaker 1>pixels are known for having excellent cameras. Is that any

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<v Speaker 1>different here?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually?

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<v Speaker 7>That's one of like the really big achievements with the

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<v Speaker 7>pixel fold is that, from you know, my testing, I've

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<v Speaker 7>to me, it seems like the pixel fold de delivers

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<v Speaker 7>pretty much a very very close experience to what you

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<v Speaker 7>get on the Pixel seven Pro.

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<v Speaker 3>You still get a really great five x optical.

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<v Speaker 7>Zoom, which is longer than what you get on the

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<v Speaker 7>Samsung z Fold four. And then on top of that,

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<v Speaker 7>you get Google's you know, really good image processing and

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<v Speaker 7>night sight low light mode, and so you combine that

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 7>and it's like, you know, that was one of my

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<v Speaker 7>big gripes about the z Fold four is that it

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<v Speaker 7>feels like Samsung had to cut a little corners to get,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, a good camera, but not as good they

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<v Speaker 7>can get on, say like the Galaxy S twenty two Ultra,

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<v Speaker 7>And so you know, the pixel folds cameras doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 7>nearly as compromise, which is a really big achievement because

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<v Speaker 7>you know you're working with a completely different design, different

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<v Speaker 7>form factor, and it's really hard to fit, especially something

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<v Speaker 7>like a five be ex tel photo lens on a

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<v Speaker 7>foldable device.

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<v Speaker 1>You said one of your gripes was that it the

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<v Speaker 1>phone never fully opens. So yeah, is that like a

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<v Speaker 1>deal breaker or just something that Google work on for

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<v Speaker 1>the next one.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that, you know, that's one of those challenges

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<v Speaker 7>because you know, Google has a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 7>they need to solve. Because you know, the pixel fold

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<v Speaker 7>when you fold it, it folds completely flat, unlike this

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<v Speaker 7>evil four And that doesn't sound like a huge difference,

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<v Speaker 7>but in practice it makes such a big improvement over

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<v Speaker 7>general usability. It just feels a little bit more waldy,

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't feel as clunky in your hand, and you know

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<v Speaker 7>they were able to move the hinges around. That said,

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<v Speaker 7>you know you do have to have those tight hinges

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<v Speaker 7>because you know, who knows how many times you're going

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<v Speaker 7>to open and close this thing over years, and you

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<v Speaker 7>know people are holding onto their phones longer, and so

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<v Speaker 7>at I think it's just one of those things that

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<v Speaker 7>you have to get used to. And it's sort of like,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, it is a flexible screen. It's made out

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<v Speaker 7>of plastic. You can't you know, it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 7>more delicate than your standard glass phone, and so that

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<v Speaker 7>means you got to kind of take care of it.

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<v Speaker 7>You got to baby just a little bit more. But

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<v Speaker 7>you also have to deal with things like a crease

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<v Speaker 7>because you know, Google wasn't entirely able to eliminate the

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<v Speaker 7>crease on their flexible display. That said they were able

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<v Speaker 7>to minimize it, and you know, from my perspective, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't really notice it at all. It's not you know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's just like you know, the notch on an iPhone

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<v Speaker 7>or puntole selfie camera in that you know, after a while,

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<v Speaker 7>you just kind of get used to it and it

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't even become distraction anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, knowing that we've got a new device from one

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<v Speaker 1>Plus coming up that's foldable, We've got several new from

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung that are foldable, what's your guidance on the pixel

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<v Speaker 1>fold This is an expensive phone. It's eighteen hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and what's your guidance.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean that that's really the crust of it, right,

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<v Speaker 7>is like, you know, I would love this phone to

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<v Speaker 7>be in other foldable devices, to be warmer, widelyailable. But

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<v Speaker 7>you know, we you have to acknowledge that we're still

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<v Speaker 7>in the very early stages of you know, the whole

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<v Speaker 7>flexible foldable phone trend, and so this is you know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's still really for early adopters. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 7>Google's first phone, and you know they've been able to

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<v Speaker 7>take bits and pieces from you know, previous rivals and competitors.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that price is really.

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<v Speaker 7>A sticking point and I you know, it's something that

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<v Speaker 7>I really would like to see come down in the future.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, I think you know, both like companies

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<v Speaker 7>like Google, Samsung, they're very aware that like eighteen hundred

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<v Speaker 7>dollars is a lot to ask for a phone, and

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<v Speaker 7>so hopefully, you know, future generations, so we will bring

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<v Speaker 7>that price down.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Rutherford, Senior writer at n Gadget. How can folks

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<v Speaker 1>find you online?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at Sam Rutherford

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<v Speaker 7>and as always on engadget dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Rich on Tech more of the

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<v Speaker 1>four two four one zero one back after this. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to rich on Tech. Rich Tomuro here hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>That's eight eight eight seven four to two four to

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<v Speaker 1>one zero one. Tanuga is in Pasadena, California. Am I

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<v Speaker 1>pronouncing that right? Tanuga at Tanusha Tanusia? Got it? Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, thank you. I love you on KTLA. And now

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 8>that I know you have a podcast, you keep me

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<v Speaker 8>coming on my way to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you, appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 8>I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>Recently, I was at a Dodgers game and I, like usual,

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<v Speaker 8>my sister and I put our stuff in the trunk,

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<v Speaker 8>move everything into the clear bag, but we leave stuff

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<v Speaker 8>in the trunk. Came back to find that someone had

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<v Speaker 8>gotten into my car, into the trunk, still my driver's license,

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 8>credit cards, all kinds of things. So when I talked

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<v Speaker 8>to LAPD, I said, you know, I'm not positive I

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<v Speaker 8>always lost my car, but maybe I didn't. They did

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<v Speaker 8>say sometimes people have devices they can override cars and

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<v Speaker 8>these locks and so I wanted to see if you

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<v Speaker 8>had any advice or ideas of how to sort of

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<v Speaker 8>prevent that as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, sorry, that happened. It's like, that's the worst because

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<v Speaker 1>you did your due diligence of putting everything in the trunk.

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<v Speaker 1>It was out of sight, so and we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if a car was locked or not, which obviously, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you probably did lock it because most of us

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<v Speaker 1>do that without thinking if you do that typically, But

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunate that this happened, So sorry to hear that. There

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>are several ways that people can get into cars. Obviously,

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>people just check, you know, to see if cars are unlocked.

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>That's one of the simplest ways. The other thing is

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>this thing called a relay attack, which is what I

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<v Speaker 1>think lapd was was talking about. And this is when

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<v Speaker 1>someone uses sort of a wireless relay system to capture

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the code off of your key, your keyfob, and then

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>relay that to the car at a different time. So

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<v Speaker 1>your little key fob that you have in your pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always generating like a code that will unlock your car.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there are systems out there that can capture

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>that information and then use that and sort of pretend

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<v Speaker 1>emulate that this device is your key and use it

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<v Speaker 1>to unlock the car. Now, this has been going on

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Obviously, manufacturers have ways of getting

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<v Speaker 1>around this. They use something called a rolling passcode, so

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<v Speaker 1>every couple of seconds the code changes on both ends

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>to keep this from happening. But it can still happen,

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and obviously if someone is really targeting cars that this

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>just works with, it can happen and it's definitely a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So couple things you can do. I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>number one is to just be aware that this can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the awareness is number one. Number two, there are

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Faraday bags you can get for your your keyfob, which

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>you can put them in so that when you're not

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>using the keyfob it is not emitting any sort of signal.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of the keyfobs may have a switch on

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<v Speaker 1>them to turn off the sort of emitting that signal

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four to seven, so maybe only when you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>using it it emits it. And of course it depends

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>on the car manufacturer too what they've done to mitigate this.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a pretty famous issue with Hyundai's and kias

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<v Speaker 1>they have a free software update for millions of their cars. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>cars could start low ard a fake KEYFOP and so

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<v Speaker 1>now there is a software update that's free to Kia

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and Hyundai owners that will update the alarm software on

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 1>the car where the alarm will happen longer. And also

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<v Speaker 1>it requires the key to be in the ignition for

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the switch to turn the car on. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a little thing that they did in response to this

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<v Speaker 1>whole TikTok challenge. I don't know if you heard about

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that whole thing. But the two bags that you can

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<v Speaker 1>get two companies that I've talked about in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>One is called Silent sln T formally Silent Pocket, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one is the off Grid Fold. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bag you can put your keyfob in

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>and it'll block all signals going to it, GPS, Wi Fi, cellular, Bluetooth, RFID. Now, look,

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I'm sorry this happened

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>to you. I think that this is something that does

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<v Speaker 1>happen in the world, and it's unfortunate, but it is

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>definitely something that is tougher than it sounds like like.

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.719
<v Speaker 1>This is definitely more of a targeted sort of attack

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>where they have to get this information off your keyfob.

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.479
<v Speaker 1>The other thing you can do if you have your

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>keyfob in your house, some of the things I'm reading

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<v Speaker 1>recommend that you don't keep it by your front door.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we all keep our car keys by the

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<v Speaker 1>front door, and that can definitely be an issue because

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<v Speaker 1>they could pick up the signal from the key and

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>if your car's in the driveway, they may be able

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to relay that signal to the car in the driveway.

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>So those are just a couple of the ways that

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you might be able to mitigate this. Definitely on fortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely sad that people do this, but look, these

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>are crimes of opportunity, and if you look on YouTube,

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you'll see all kinds of videos about this relay attack

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and the systems that these folks can use to do it.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not an easy thing to do, but it can

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>be easy if you know what you're doing and if

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you have the right hardware. The one story that I watched,

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<v Speaker 1>it looked pretty complicated to do this to pull this off,

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>but again, people do it all the time. So Tanuja,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that helps you. I hope that helps you

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what you need to do in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>I would look first at your car and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>look up on the internet what type of car you have,

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<v Speaker 1>what type of system they have for theft, and see

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<v Speaker 1>if that is a known system that needs an update

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>or has something that may be able to help you.

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>That's probably the first place to start. If it's an

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>older car, it definitely is probably more susceptible to these

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>sorts of attacks, but it may have a software update

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>for the manufacturer, so definitely check into that. All right,

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>good question. Let's see here. Let's go to Steve. Steve

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<v Speaker 1>is in Mariata, California. Steve, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, Rich. I'm thinking about a Pixel of seven

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:20.239
<v Speaker 6>or eight right now, I have a Samsung. What are

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 6>your comments on those two phones at seven or eight?

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, the Pixel eight hasn't come out yet, so it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be tough to give my opinion on that phone. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Pixel eight is typically launched in October. So right

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<v Speaker 1>now we're about halfway through the cycle with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the pixels, the Pixel seven, the seven pro, the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>A just came out. So my I guess question is, Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you need to do on this phone. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything in particular you want to do on this device?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I already have I think two hundred thousand photos,

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<v Speaker 6>so I'm using it mainly downloading documents, okay away from

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<v Speaker 6>the computer, and you know, pretty mundane thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the basics. So you you know, you may

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>not even need What do you have right now? What

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 1>do you have for oh wow? Oh gosh, Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'll you'll. I think, look, it depends what

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you want. I've tested the Pixel seven and the seven

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>A sorry and this and the seven Pro. They are

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>excellent devices. They have everything you need. I think you'll

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>be very happy with them. I think it depends on

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the size of the phone you want. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the Pixel seven is a much easier phone to hold.

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<v Speaker 1>The six A or the seven A is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot cheaper than the seven. It's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be as it's not gonna be as full featured as

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<v Speaker 1>that device. And then the Pixel A, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to wait for it, is coming out in October. Obviously

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna have some upgrades and some polish, But I

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>think I think you'd be very happy with the Pixel seven.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably what i'd go with at this point, so

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<v Speaker 1>good question. Of course, if you love those pictures, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get great photos off of the pixel, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Tomuro here hanging out with you, talking technology on

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<v Speaker 1>this holiday weekend. Happy July fourth. Is it July fourth

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<v Speaker 1>or fourth of July? I think there's like a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. I think it's fourth of July. Oh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no difference, okay. Producer Adam says, no difference. Okay, Happy

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<v Speaker 1>in Rancho, Cordova, California. Grace, you're on with Rich hi rich.

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<v Speaker 8>So I keep getting emails from Gmail that your Gmail

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 8>is out of storage despite the least oh no, so

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<v Speaker 8>asking me to buy storage?

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<v Speaker 4>Will I lose all my.

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 8>Emails if I don't buy the storage.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's what's going to happen. What how much storage

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<v Speaker 1>do you have on there? The fifteen gigs?

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<v Speaker 8>Fifteen?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you use Google Photos at all?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you use Google Drive?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So it sounds like you are up against your

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>storage limit. And the way you can check to see

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 1>what's going on is go to one dot Google dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you gone to that website?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's O n E, not the number O N

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<v Speaker 1>E dot Google dot And this will give you a

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<v Speaker 1>rundown of your storage and where it's being used. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, I actually have five terabytes of storage because

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I've got a lot of stuff on Google. So it

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<v Speaker 1>tells me that one hundred and thirty one gigs is

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<v Speaker 1>being used in Google Drive, thirty three gigs in Gmail,

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>which is just absolutely ludicrous because how are Gmail? How

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 1>are emails taking up thirty three gigabytes of storage? Like

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that's wild? Google Photos two and a half terabytes. Then

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 1>I've got some family storage situations going on at two

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred gigabytes. So here's what you need to do. You

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 1>need to go through your storage and figure out what's

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>taking up all of this storage. If it's stuff that

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you can get rid of, then dump it. If it's

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.280
<v Speaker 1>stuff you can't, then you're going to have to pay

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 1>for more storage to get to continue using this. Now,

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>your Gmail is not going to stop working. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna not be able to receive or send messages because

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna say sorry, storage full. There may be a

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>tiny little grace period in there, but the reality is

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna be able to upload Google Photos. You're

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<v Speaker 1>just not gonna be able to do a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Storage starts at two bucks a month, I believe. For

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<v Speaker 1>I think two hundred gigabytes, which would be more than

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>enough for you at this point. But that's what you

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Speaker 1>need to do. So there are various ways to free

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<v Speaker 1>up account storage when you go to that area of

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.240
<v Speaker 1>one dot Google dot com. And so if I'm looking

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>at my ways to do it, I've got items in

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>trash on trash or spam in Gmail. So I've got

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty one megabytes in trash one megabyte

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>in spam, and then I've got five hundred and seventy

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 1>megabytes of files and trash on drive. I can get

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>rid of all those, free up almost less than a gigabyte.

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Then we've got large items, three hundred gigabytes of large items,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking at emails with large attachments and I

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>can already tell I can review and get rid of

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of these. Then I've got large files, and

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I've got large photos and videos. So again you just

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 1>have to go through the storage manager on that Google

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>one area and clean up some of these files that

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you may not need, that may be too big, that

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>are just you know, you just don't need them anymore,

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>or they're in the trash. Get rid of those. See

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<v Speaker 1>if that frees up enough space to keep you going

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. But it sounds like grace. Eventually, if

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>you're going to continue using these products, you're going to

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>have to pay up. And this all goes into my

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<v Speaker 1>theme for the tech world in twenty twenty three, and

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that is the free ride is over. We have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>so used to all of these services that just want

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 1>to give us their services for free, and for many

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>years it was great. It was a free ride, and

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>now the free ride is over. The layoffs have happened.

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>In the tech world, the VC funding is tightened up.

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>People want to actually make money. It's not just this

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>free flowing thing where like, let's just get a whole

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 1>bunch of customers and hopefully the money comes later. No,

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>we've got to we've got to make some money now.

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<v Speaker 1>And Google, you know, they've got a lot of folks

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>using Gmail, They've got a lot of folks using Google Photos.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to make money on those products too. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think they're pretty good about giving people the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen gigs of free storage. If you look at Apple,

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:24.439
<v Speaker 1>they only give you five. And that's been happening since

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<v Speaker 1>like day one. So really, if you're using an iPhone,

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you're probably paying for iCloud storage immediately right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 1>Great question, Grace. Let's talk about Apple for a second. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>my photostream this is percolating in the news once again.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about a couple weeks ago. But Apple is

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<v Speaker 1>shutting down this my photostream feature, so it already it

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<v Speaker 1>already stopped uploading pictures as of June twenty sixth, and

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>now on July twenty six they're just going to eradicate

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the feature fully. So everyone's whoa, whoa, whoa all these

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>headlines online. Let me just let me type this in

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>photo Apple shutting down. Okay, let me just let me

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>just look at the photo the headlines here. Okay, Apple's

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 1>my photostream shutting down. Here's what to do. Let me

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>actually take out photostream because a lot of these headlines.

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Well okay, anyway, my point is these headlines are scary.

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>But the reality is, I would say ninety nine percent

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>of people are not using this feature, nor have they

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>used this feature in like five years. So if you're

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>using the feature, you probably know about it. And so

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 1>here's what you need to do. Bottom line. Look at

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>your iPhone, go into your photos app, go into your

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 1>albums and look for an album called my Photostream. If

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you do not have that album, you do not need

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>to worry about this. Go on your Mac computer, open

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>up photos, look for my photostream. Go on your iPad,

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>open up your photos app, look for my photostream. If

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't see that album on your devices, you don't

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>need to worry about it. Stop thinking about this. If

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you do see that album, then you need to do

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 1>one of two things. If you're using iCloud, chances are

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>those pictures are already backed up to iCloud because they

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 1>were taken on one of these devices and they backed

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>up to iCloud. If you're not using iCloud, then what

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to do is go into my photostream, click

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>that album, look in there, see what photos are in there,

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and then if there's any photos that you want to save,

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 1>just tap the photo and then tap the share icon

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and it says save image. Save that image to your

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.319
<v Speaker 1>regular camera role, and then it will back up. However

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>you back up your photos, whether that's iCloud, whether that's

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Google Photos, whether that's Amazon Photos, it's all the same.

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 1>It will go in there. You could select several photos

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>at once and do the same thing. So if there's

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.439
<v Speaker 1>every photo you want to save to your camera role,

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>just go ahead and hit the select up in the

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>upper right hand corner. You can select a whole bunch

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>of photos at once and then just press save and

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you should be good to go there. It's one of

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 1>these things where, yeah, it makes a it makes for

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.320
<v Speaker 1>a sexy headline because it's scary when Apple changes anything,

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 1>but the reality is most people do not need to

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>worry about that, but at least you know what's going on.

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 1>If you want to see that information once again, you

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>can go to my Instagram. It is at rich on

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Tech and I pinned this information, so it's the first

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>thing you'll see on my Instagram and it's an Instagram

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.840
<v Speaker 1>reel that says will be shut down on July twenty sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>Tap that reel, listen to what I say, read, understand,

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 1>and then share that to your stories so that your

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>friends who are asking you about this and freaking out,

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>can you know since you're listening to rich on Tech,

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what's going on. Now you can share that

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>wealth of knowledge with your friends. Niantic, the company behind

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Pokemon Go, it's been it's been a rough run for

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 1>this company because Pokemon Go is such a great success.

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like, how do you follow that up? Right? It's

0:43:57.719 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 1>like a It's like an amazing artist that has like

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>a one hit. They're under so much pressure to come

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:05.359
<v Speaker 1>up with something that's amazing, and I feel like that's

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>been Niantic, the company behind Pokemon Go, for so long now.

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 1>They had this amazing thing, Pokemon Go. Nobody had ever

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>seen anything like it before, and now they've been struggling

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>to come up with something just as amazing ever since

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:20.399
<v Speaker 1>they tried a Harry Potter game and didn't really work out.

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:24.280
<v Speaker 1>They've got this new new game called Paradot, which is okay,

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>but again it hasn't seen the buzz like Pokemon Go.

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 1>With all that in mind, they are closing their Los

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Angeles studio. They're laying off two hundred and thirty people,

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and they're basically saying, look, our expenses were growing faster

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 1>than the money we're making.

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>We saw a lot of people playing these games during

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen. Of course, people are at home. They had

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do except walk around their neighborhoods. Now that

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>people are out and about, it's a little bit tougher.

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>So what is going to happen to Pokemon Go. It's

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>going to keep happening. It's going to keep going. But

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Niantic is going to slow down on some of their

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>third party games that they're creating. I think there's one

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 1>for the NBA or something. They're not going to really

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 1>invest in those anymore. They're going to invest in their

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>first party games. So if you're playing Pokemon Go, you

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>see these headlines about Niantic. It's not going anywhere. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think what Pokemon Go is they're saying, Look, we

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<v Speaker 1>were onto something a long time ago, these augmented reality games,

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and now that we see technology like Apple coming out

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<v Speaker 1>with their Vision Pro headset, these games are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be good in the future. People are going to want

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<v Speaker 1>to play these games. In fact, Pokemon Go may have

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<v Speaker 1>a whole new life inside the Apple headset, but it's

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be a while. So they've got to kind

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>of get back to the basics, narrow down some of

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>those expenses, and you know, get ready for what the

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>future is, which is ar but it's just not here

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>just yet in a big way with these goggles. So anyway,

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I figured i'd tell you about that because Pokemon Go

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>is so popular. Coming up, we're going to talk to

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a guy who created an AI chatbot system for messing

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 1>with telemarketers and robo callers. I can't condone this behavior,

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:05.720
<v Speaker 1>but it certainly is fun to talk about. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to rich on Tech triple eight rich one oh one

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four to one

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<v Speaker 1>zero one. If you want to get a hold of me.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody likes getting spam calls. Robocalls and uh, one person

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<v Speaker 1>decided to do something about it. This company, Jolly Roger,

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<v Speaker 1>uses AI technology to troll telemarketers and waste their time.

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<v Speaker 1>They generate different characters that distract the telemarketers and keep

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 1>them on the line as long as possible. The goal is,

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 1>I guess the theory is that if they're on the

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<v Speaker 1>line with this this AI chatbot, they can't be calling

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<v Speaker 1>someone else. Roger Anderson is joining me. Roger, you came

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<v Speaker 1>up with this technology?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, Rich, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for joining me. So it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like you did this a while back, but it just

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<v Speaker 1>bubbled up in the New World. Was there like an

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<v Speaker 1>article or something that featured you. Is that what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 11>The Wall Street Journal reached out to me and asked

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:13.280
<v Speaker 11>if I was doing anything with chat GPT in relation

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 11>to this, which was quite timely because I have been

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 11>looking into it. So, yes, I plugged the Jolly Roger

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 11>telephone service, these these chatbots. I basically plugged them into

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 11>chat GPT, and it kind of opened up a whole

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<v Speaker 11>new layer and possibility and level of entertainment as these

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<v Speaker 11>chatbots now talk to telemarketers and scammers on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jolly Roger is the company, and explain how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>So I sign up for this, How much does it cost?

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<v Speaker 1>And then what do I do? Do I forward my calls?

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<v Speaker 1>Or how does it work?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it's it's two dollars per month per line, so

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<v Speaker 11>less than twenty four dollars per year, and you basically

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 11>just forward your phone, forward your unanswered calls to us

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 11>and will either answer with regular voice if you know

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 11>who they are, or or will treat them kindly if

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 11>we don't know who they are, but if they're scammers,

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<v Speaker 11>if you tell us this numbers as a scam, or

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 11>if we we use some third party tools to determine

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<v Speaker 11>if the calls are are unwanted or not, and then

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<v Speaker 11>we'll pick up with robots. And the robots are kind,

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:20.280
<v Speaker 11>they're patient, they're polite, but they will never divulge personal

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<v Speaker 11>information or financial information. But they sound gullible, so it's

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<v Speaker 11>just the right mix of gullible, funny, realistic, and the

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<v Speaker 11>telemarketers will will chat with them for as long as

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<v Speaker 11>they're willing and and your phone is clear, you can

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<v Speaker 11>keep making and receiving calls, or just go about your

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 11>day and our robots will chat with your scammers while

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<v Speaker 11>you while you do whatever you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at some of the names. Whitey Whitebeard is

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<v Speaker 1>a bumbling senior citizen, Is that right?

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<v Speaker 11>That's right, another one of our favorites.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Another one is a salty sally, an easily distracted mother. Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have a clip that that we got sent

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<v Speaker 1>about these things? Let's let's hear the clip.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Rich on Tech with Rich DeMuro. Follow

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<v Speaker 3>Rich for tech News, how to videos, gadget reviews and

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 3>useful tips and tricks.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, there we go. You're doing a promo for you.

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<v Speaker 11>That's our Whitey white Beard.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's Whitey white Beard. Okay, so that's why do

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<v Speaker 1>you have Do you have another one? We have another

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<v Speaker 1>clip too, so we're gonna we're gonna play that one

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<v Speaker 1>to Roger Hangem. This is at white Beard.

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<v Speaker 5>I am a robot from the Jolly Roger Telephone Company.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually sounds pretty realistic, Like I'm quite impressed. So

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<v Speaker 1>how are you using chat GBT? How is the AI

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<v Speaker 1>mixed into this whole world?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it's so we've got a phone system and then

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<v Speaker 11>behind the scenes there's just a giant Rude Goldberg machine

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<v Speaker 11>of of you know, a bunch of tasks that are

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 11>frantically feeding the next thing that Whitey Whitebeard should say.

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<v Speaker 11>So it's using voice cloning technology from a company that

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<v Speaker 11>sound called play dot ht, which.

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<v Speaker 6>Is very good.

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<v Speaker 11>Just a short clip of Whitey white Beard. The voice

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<v Speaker 11>talent behind that is actually a friend of the family,

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<v Speaker 11>is the father of Steve Burts and our co founder.

0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 11>So Sid is a farmer in Vermont, dairy farmer and

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<v Speaker 11>Vermont and recorded some stuff for us years ago, and

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<v Speaker 11>we just fed some of those old recordings into played

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<v Speaker 11>dot ht. They clone the voice and now we can

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<v Speaker 11>have Whitey say whatever chat GPT wants wants to say.

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<v Speaker 11>So we've kind of given chat GPT a voice by

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<v Speaker 11>using voice cloning technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think this is mean to the telemarketers, to

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<v Speaker 1>the scam artists, the scam callers.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I don't think that because the robots, again, they're friendly.

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<v Speaker 11>The robots are friendly. And sometimes we have telemarketers who

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<v Speaker 11>are just bored out of their minds and they're somewhat

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<v Speaker 11>delighted to get a laugh when talking because they don't

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<v Speaker 11>really know if it's you know, in some cases they

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 11>don't know what's going on. I think it's mean to

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<v Speaker 11>the industry. Our goal is to is to really fight

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:59.399
<v Speaker 11>the industry of unsolicited telemarketing robocalling. There's certainly a lot

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 11>of scam and a lot of fraud taking place. So

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 11>our goal really is to entertain you, protect the network,

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<v Speaker 11>and really fight these telemarketers and prevent prevent them from scamming.

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:14.240
<v Speaker 11>You know, the vulnerable out there, such as the elderly

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:18.720
<v Speaker 11>or or anyone else that might be susceptible to be scams.

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 11>So really we're just we're it's sort of a whimsical service,

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 11>but a serious mission, and that is to fight telemarketing.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Roger Anderson of Jolly Roger Telephone dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for joining me today. I appreciate the information.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you, Rich.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, keep those robocallers busy so they're not calling me,

0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 1>as we've all gotten those calls. All right. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later, we're going to talk about the

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 1>startup that can help you rent out your backyards. If

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:50.359
<v Speaker 1>you have a backyard pool, you've got a backyard tennis court.

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:51.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're doing that, maybe you don't need

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the extra cash, but backyard pickleball court. Or you can

0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 1>also use this website to rent one of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk to them a little bit later. First,

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Speaker 1>more of your calls at triple eight Rich one oh one.

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 1>That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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<v Speaker 1>zero one. This is rich on Tech, your friendly tech show.

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 1>And No, I am not AI. No, I'm not a robot.

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 1>This is a real voice. I swear. How do I

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 1>prove this? I don't know if there is a way

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to prove it anymore. You're listening to rich on Tech.

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess because I make mistakes. Jay is in Guardina, California. Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on with Rich Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 12>Our age. Thank you for your great program. I have

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:42.560
<v Speaker 12>a question about this iMac that I have. It's about

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 12>twelve years old, very good processor. I hardly used it.

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 12>I wanted to be able to reset it to a

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 12>point that I can only open the Internet to my banking,

0:52:56.560 --> 0:53:02.440
<v Speaker 12>pay my bills, nothing else. That's a question about Apple.

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<v Speaker 12>My other question is what happened to Maya Space. What

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 12>was the difference between my space and Facebook that just

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:15.040
<v Speaker 12>become a region dollar company and the other one disappeared?

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well the second question I think I need a whole

0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>radio hour to answer because that's a little in depth,

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:25.680
<v Speaker 1>but I'll attempt to do it. Jay. My Space was

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:28.920
<v Speaker 1>simply before its time. It was the first of its kind,

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:31.239
<v Speaker 1>and of course when you have the first of its kind,

0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 1>it is emulated and people see the weaknesses in that

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>platform and they figure out what they can do better.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, quite simply, Facebook came along and did

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>things better than my Space. There was a lot of

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:51.760
<v Speaker 1>like Facebook did the feed, and my Space didn't really

0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 1>have a feed, and I think that's what made Facebook

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>take off in such a big way, is that you

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 1>saw what your friends were doing versus going to their pages.

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>My Space was sort of like a glorified personal website

0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that lets you see how you were connected to your friends.

0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:10.320
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, that was the best feature ever

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 1>about MySpace was it gave you how you were linked

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<v Speaker 1>up to someone, because you could look up anyone on

0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that platform and it would show you exactly how you

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 1>were linked to them. It would say, your friend Jan

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 1>knows Jim, and Jim knows Bob, and that's how you

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:31.239
<v Speaker 1>know Frank. Wow, that's amazing and I've always wanted that

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:35.200
<v Speaker 1>feature on Facebook. The degrees of separation, let's call it,

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and it just never never came. So that's to answer

0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:42.240
<v Speaker 1>your question. And I don't know if that's the full answer.

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's people that could write a documentary about

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 1>how Facebook took over my Space. But with that said,

0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and I think that all major platforms are always at

0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:56.080
<v Speaker 1>risk of It's almost like the Roman Empire, right, you

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:58.439
<v Speaker 1>have this thing, you built it up, and there's some

0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of a achilles heel that someone else figures out

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and they take over. And so we've seen the major

0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:08.279
<v Speaker 1>platforms at this point kind of keep their rain for

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:12.319
<v Speaker 1>a while, the YouTube's of the world, the Instagrams of

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the world. But when you look at something like TikTok

0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 1>that came along, it rocketed to the top very quickly.

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>And who would have thought vertical video on an app

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:25.759
<v Speaker 1>would take over the mind space and mind share of

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>all these other apps so quickly, and then the government

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 1>tries to take it down. But anyway, that's a whole

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 1>another talk for another day. But let's talk about your

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>first question, how to make this mac wow? You have

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>a twelve year old iMac. iMac twelve years old, that's

0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 1>a that's doing the math that's yeah, that's a long

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>time ago. So I was gonna say, the new Macs

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:51.879
<v Speaker 1>have a way, and you want to kind of clear

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:53.680
<v Speaker 1>this thing out to get it nice and fresh and

0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>clean and just just surf the web on it and

0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:58.360
<v Speaker 1>do your banking on it. And that's that's understandable. You

0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 1>want to get rid of all the crud. So the

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 1>new Max actually have and all new computers, the Windows

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.919
<v Speaker 1>computers and the Mac computers have a very easy way

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to reset to factory settings, just very similar to the

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 1>way the cell phones have it. In your settings. You

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:17.120
<v Speaker 1>can go back to eraseol factory reset and it just

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 1>brings it back to that factory finish and the way

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:23.919
<v Speaker 1>it was set up. There's nothing there except the out

0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:26.600
<v Speaker 1>of the box software. So the Max have that feature.

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:29.759
<v Speaker 1>The new Max do, and also the new Windows computers do,

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 1>but the old Max do not. Now they have it,

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.399
<v Speaker 1>but it's a little bit more. You got to look

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.279
<v Speaker 1>for it. So what you have to do, and you

0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:42.359
<v Speaker 1>may not have this, but you have to reinstall the

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:45.880
<v Speaker 1>entire operating system from scratch. So what you have to

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:48.040
<v Speaker 1>do is you have to start up your computer into

0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:52.200
<v Speaker 1>what's called mac os recovery mode and the max are

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<v Speaker 1>a little unique. The way you do this. You turn

0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>on your Mac and you immediately press and hold. When

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.879
<v Speaker 1>you see the app, press and hold command plus R,

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:05.399
<v Speaker 1>and when you see an Apple logo, then you can

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:10.160
<v Speaker 1>let go of those So command R, turn on the computer,

0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:12.960
<v Speaker 1>hold down command R, and just hold that down until

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:15.319
<v Speaker 1>you see your Apple logo. Once you do that, you

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 1>unlock this magic disc utility. And when you're inside disc utility,

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you can then use that to erase your entire disc.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once you erase it, you can reinstall your software.

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<v Speaker 1>And now this is where it gets tricky. You may

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<v Speaker 1>have that software available on the computer and maybe on

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<v Speaker 1>like a partition. I know it's getting very complicated, but

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<v Speaker 1>you may have to use the original disc that came

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<v Speaker 1>with your computer. So if you still have that in

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<v Speaker 1>the box, that'll help. That's all very complicated, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's something the average person wants to tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done this in the past on computers. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty straightforward system. I used to. I actually still do

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<v Speaker 1>wipe my computers once a year to get them back

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<v Speaker 1>to whenever I do a new install of the latest

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<v Speaker 1>software update, like if it's you know, the new Mac

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<v Speaker 1>operating system. I will factory refresh my computer just to

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<v Speaker 1>get all the little things off of there and then

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<v Speaker 1>start fresh again. I don't recommend you do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I like to do it. I'm a nerd and I

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<v Speaker 1>like to start fresh because I test a lot of stuff,

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, So it's like all these little programs that

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<v Speaker 1>are all just lingering on there anyway. So I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you all that because it's probably not something that's very

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<v Speaker 1>simple to do, but it is doable, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>Once you do it, it's done. And you can find

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<v Speaker 1>the instructions on the Apple support website. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube videos. But just make sure you sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>print everything out before you tackle this, or you have

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<v Speaker 1>a second screen nearby that you can use to follow

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<v Speaker 1>these instructions, because there will be something that happens that

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<v Speaker 1>you will not expect and then you will be scrambling

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<v Speaker 1>to try to figure out how to recover from that.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe me, it has happened to me, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, this took way longer than I expected

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<v Speaker 1>it to take. The other thing you could do, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this a lot, is you can just

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<v Speaker 1>turn it into a Chromebook, and you can use what

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<v Speaker 1>Google has for free software. It's called Chrome os Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and you can install that on your old iMac And

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<v Speaker 1>what that does is it just turns it into a

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<v Speaker 1>basically a Chromebook and you'll just have Chrome on there.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be able to, you know, do basic things that

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<v Speaker 1>you could do on a chromebook, surf the web, just

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<v Speaker 1>whatever whatever you could do on a basic Chromebook you

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<v Speaker 1>could do on there. And that would probably be a

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<v Speaker 1>nice way of using it. You said, the processor is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good, but that'll run really fast and speedy, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be able to do your banking on there. So

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<v Speaker 1>great question, Jay, thanks for the question. I've told you this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told you how this Tesla charging standard continues

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<v Speaker 1>to just become the charging standard and another company has

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<v Speaker 1>now signed on, so Electrify America. If you have an

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<v Speaker 1>EV you've probably heard of this company. They make charging

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<v Speaker 1>stations around the US. They've got eight hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>charging stations, four thousand individual chargers in the US and Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>And they said, you know what, Okay, fine, we're in.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start building these Tesla chargers into our charging stations.

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<v Speaker 1>So by twenty twenty five, they will add what's called

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<v Speaker 1>the North American Charging Standard connector to its charging network. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to drop support for the other charging standards,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the cs CCS one. They're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>add this new connector. So when you get up to

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<v Speaker 1>their charger, you're gonna have the option to charge via

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<v Speaker 1>the Tesla charger or via the standard chargers that have

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<v Speaker 1>been on the other evs for a while now. So

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<v Speaker 1>again Electrify America. By twenty twenty five, they will start

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<v Speaker 1>adding these things to their network. So the reality is

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla came out with their own charging system, and now

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<v Speaker 1>other companies have adopted this charging system. The first out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gate was GM. They said, okay, fine, we're

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<v Speaker 1>switching over to TESTS. Then Ford said, okay, we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>the same, Volvo okay, we'll do the same, Rivian Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do the same. Who does that leave two of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest car companies out there, Hondata I just mixed Honda, Honda,

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<v Speaker 1>and Hyundai. So you got Hyundai, You've got Honda, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got Toyota. Out of those three companies, only Hyundai has

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<v Speaker 1>really shown interest in EVS. Toyota and Honda still have

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<v Speaker 1>yet to have a mainstream ev car, and so we're

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<v Speaker 1>still waiting for them to come out with even an

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<v Speaker 1>ev car. In general, they still think hybrid is the

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<v Speaker 1>way to go, So Electrify America jumping on board. And

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<v Speaker 1>before we go, finally to break YouTube limiting video views

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<v Speaker 1>if you have an ad blocker. So, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>an ad blocker on your computer and you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>use YouTube and getting around those ads, guess what. YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>is doing an experiment where they are only letting you

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<v Speaker 1>watch three video before they show you a message that says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, buddy, enough your ad blocker, stop blocking us,

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<v Speaker 1>or else you can't watch any more videos. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get to watch three with your ad blocker before

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<v Speaker 1>you have to allow YouTube to show you ads. It

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<v Speaker 1>also suggests that you subscribe to YouTube Premium, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what I do. It's very expensive, but then you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to deal with any of the ad situation on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube in general. But again, if you're wondering what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>with this whole YouTube situation when you have an ad blocker, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's by design. Google's saying enough of you getting

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<v Speaker 1>around our revenue source here, stop blocking our ads, so

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get three videos before they give you that warning

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<v Speaker 1>that you got to pay up or disable your ad blocker.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, more rich on Tech coming up after this.

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<v Speaker 1>The phone number to call in triple eight Rich one

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<v Speaker 1>oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two

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<v Speaker 1>four one zero one. Coming up next, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about a website that lets you rent out

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<v Speaker 1>your backyard and make some money doing it. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>Airbnb of swimming pools and more. Coming up. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you,

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<v Speaker 1>talking technology, and you know, the gig economy is a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of our world. It started with Uber, it

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<v Speaker 1>continued with door dash, and now people are renting out

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of things, including their cars and their backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Swimply is a startup that lets you rent out your

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<v Speaker 1>backyard pool. They've been doing that for years now. They're

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<v Speaker 1>expanding into backyard pickleball and tennis courts. Recently I chatted

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<v Speaker 1>with swimpley co founder and CEO Buham Laskin about how

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<v Speaker 1>people are renting out their backyards to make some extra cash.

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<v Speaker 13>Somebody's an app where if you have a beautiful ribbit pool,

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<v Speaker 13>they spend a lot of money on it, you barely

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<v Speaker 13>use that. You get to actually earn a passive income

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<v Speaker 13>by sharing it with local families and friends in the

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<v Speaker 13>area that are just looking to get together and celebrate privately.

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<v Speaker 13>And if you don't have a pool, you could actually

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<v Speaker 13>go on the app and find different private pools. Different

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<v Speaker 13>you can put in filters so how many people you are,

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<v Speaker 13>whether you want to bring your pet, whether you want

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<v Speaker 13>to be child friendly or event friendly, and then you

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<v Speaker 13>can just preserve it by the hour. Since twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 13>we've hosted over a million people and over one hundred

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<v Speaker 13>and twenty five cities and now we're we're available also

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<v Speaker 13>in Australia and.

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<v Speaker 1>Canada, and so it's been quite successful. People like this idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we've been.

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<v Speaker 13>Going every year obviously, people love swimming, people love spending

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<v Speaker 13>time together, and as the pandemic is eased, that is

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<v Speaker 13>only accelerated.

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<v Speaker 1>What gave you the idea to expand to pickleball and tennis?

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<v Speaker 13>From the beginning, we've been about democratizing luxury and finding

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<v Speaker 13>creative ways of bringing people together in ways they could

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<v Speaker 13>only have dreamed of. And with the rise of pickleball

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<v Speaker 13>growing so fast, and the people not being able to

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<v Speaker 13>build courts fast enough for people, for people to even

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<v Speaker 13>find one to play in. It was something that we

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<v Speaker 13>felt like it's our mission to provide, and so we've

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<v Speaker 13>taken the formula we created with pools and we simply

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<v Speaker 13>brought it to the pickleball community.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you know about pickleball? And we all

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<v Speaker 1>know tennis, but pickleball is like this kind of people

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<v Speaker 1>are discovering it.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 13>The reason why we love pickleball so much is because,

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<v Speaker 13>like pools, people from all ages love it. Right. A

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<v Speaker 13>pool is friendly for kids, parents, senior citizens, and pickaballs

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<v Speaker 13>has the same origins where it actually started in senior

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<v Speaker 13>citizen community and has trickled this way downwards and now

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<v Speaker 13>everybody's playing pickaball. Everyone gets together and it's something that's

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<v Speaker 13>healthy and gets people outside and puts.

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<v Speaker 3>Their phone away.

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<v Speaker 13>So that's enough for what we needed to know for

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<v Speaker 13>us to be proud to be able to bring that

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<v Speaker 13>to some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, whenever you do a story like this, there's always

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<v Speaker 1>that idea of strangers coming to your house or you

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<v Speaker 1>as a stranger going to someone else's house. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any problems with this everything work out most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 13>So I launched swimply because my mother had her twelfth

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<v Speaker 13>child and we need a way to get out of

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<v Speaker 13>the house, and so we paid my neighbor to let

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<v Speaker 13>us use her pool without needing to bother her. And

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<v Speaker 13>so safety has always been a priority from day one,

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<v Speaker 13>and as we've grown, it's become more and more the

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<v Speaker 13>epicenter of how we operate. And so with pickleball, we're

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<v Speaker 13>applying pool level safety standards to pickleball. We verified but

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<v Speaker 13>sids in the marketplaces reviews. Most of our owners are home,

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<v Speaker 13>but you don't have to be home. We've hosted over

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<v Speaker 13>a million people with no incidents today.

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<v Speaker 1>How much money are people making doing the pool thing

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<v Speaker 1>and how much can they make.

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<v Speaker 13>Host them so big an expect to earn anywhere between

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<v Speaker 13>fifteen hundred and three thousand dollars a month passively. Some

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<v Speaker 13>of our owners actually get so passionate about their business

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<v Speaker 13>that they've earned the six figures on the platform. Today,

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<v Speaker 13>owners are in full control. They can set up all

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<v Speaker 13>the rules. There are charge of their own pricing, how

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<v Speaker 13>many guests they allow, how experience they need to be,

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<v Speaker 13>how many adults versus kids, ratio so we give the

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<v Speaker 13>full control to the owners to operate their business however

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<v Speaker 13>they want to, and guests gearable to see previous reviews

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<v Speaker 13>from other players in the area, the families that have

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<v Speaker 13>enjoyed the experience, and for even more peace of mind,

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<v Speaker 13>simply offers up to two million dollars per reservation and

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<v Speaker 13>protection and free of charge.

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<v Speaker 1>I then spoke with bell Air resident Aubrey Stark. She

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<v Speaker 1>rents out her home for film shoots. Now she's renting

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<v Speaker 1>out her backyard pickleball court through Swimply.

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<v Speaker 2>This court, I.

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<v Speaker 14>Think is pretty unique because it has the Thrive sound

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<v Speaker 14>speakers which are top of the line. We have a

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<v Speaker 14>seating area that can fit twelve people, mini fridge, We

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<v Speaker 14>have a pickleball machine which you can use, fire pit

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<v Speaker 14>with included propane. And then we have a couple add

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<v Speaker 14>ons like our sauna area we called our zen Zone,

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<v Speaker 14>but it includes a sauna and a cold plunge. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 14>I actually have made that into a full on business myself.

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<v Speaker 14>I am renting out the house, the property, the court

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<v Speaker 14>usually like three times a week now, so it's become

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<v Speaker 14>a major avenue of revenue for us.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think about the people that come here, like,

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<v Speaker 1>are they pretty nice for the most part?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, everyone's pretty nice. We have a couple bad apples

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<v Speaker 14>here and there, but for the most part, everyone's amazing

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<v Speaker 14>and really respectful of the property.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think makes pickleball fun?

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<v Speaker 14>It's great because it's really competitive. I think just about

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<v Speaker 14>anyone can pick it up and learn it pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 14>But if you play one on one then it's actually

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<v Speaker 14>a workout as well, so it kind of encapsulates all

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<v Speaker 14>three of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is a court like this rent for? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you what do you put this on swimply for?

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<v Speaker 14>I believe our court is currently I mean there's a

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<v Speaker 14>range depending on a number of people in number of

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<v Speaker 14>hours that I think we're currently around eight or ninety

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<v Speaker 14>bucks an hour with maybe a two hour minimum.

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<v Speaker 1>Are people renting it?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, people are renting it. And they just launched this

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<v Speaker 14>platform on Swimplea, so it's very very new, but we've

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<v Speaker 14>had consistent rentals just about every week.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you think swimpley is gonna have to change

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<v Speaker 1>their name now that they're doing all these other things

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<v Speaker 1>sides swimming pools.

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<v Speaker 14>It's a really good question. I don't know I guess

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<v Speaker 14>it depends on how much press they do. Potentially. I

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<v Speaker 14>think pick a Ball is a major I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 14>the fastest screen sport in America right now, So it

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<v Speaker 14>wouldn't surprise me if there had to be a little

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<v Speaker 14>bit of rebranding around the name.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think of you know, like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your advice to other people that may have an asset

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<v Speaker 1>at their home that they can rent out, whether it's anything,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's strangers coming to your house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's always a little bit of trepidation there, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 14>I think you just have to design around what you're

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<v Speaker 14>comfortable with. I was candidly, very nervous about it in

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<v Speaker 14>the beginning, but I do a good amount of research

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<v Speaker 14>and make sure to get to know the person. I

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<v Speaker 14>always do the check ins myself, make sure I feel

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<v Speaker 14>comfortable with a person, and for the most part, we've

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<v Speaker 14>had really great experiences. I would say that definitely keep

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<v Speaker 14>someone on site at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, there you have it, swimply renting out your

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<v Speaker 1>backyard pool. I ran that idea by my in laws

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, you know, you can make a couple

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<v Speaker 1>thousand bucks a month, and they were like, no way.

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<v Speaker 1>So your mileage may vary. If you want information on

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<v Speaker 1>swimply how to rent out your pool, your tennis court,

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<v Speaker 1>your pickleball court, or if you want to rent one

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<v Speaker 1>of these things, you can go to my website. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech, kicking off our number

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<v Speaker 1>three of the show. Thanks for joining me at triple

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<v Speaker 1>eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven four

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<v Speaker 1>to two four one zero one. Coming up in this hour,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got friend of the show Jefferson Graham. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about how to take photos of fireworks? Should

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<v Speaker 1>we even bother? I'll ask him that question. Also, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a hot tip for travel that is a little

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<v Speaker 1>low tech, so I'll ask him about that as he

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<v Speaker 1>embarks on a thirty day road trip. Then we've got

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<v Speaker 1>this app that I think you should download. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>life saving tool. Tell you about that and the new

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<v Speaker 1>password manager that also protects your email. But first let's

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<v Speaker 1>kick it off with Mark in Lomita, California. Mark, you're

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<v Speaker 1>on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey, Rich, thank you for what you do here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for saying that.

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<v Speaker 11>My question, Yeah, my question is I'm going to Switzerland

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<v Speaker 11>next week and I've heard about an e simcard, but

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you recommend I want.

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<v Speaker 1>To when I'm obile in Switzerland?

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<v Speaker 11>I want to post on What's app Facebook and maybe

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<v Speaker 11>call back a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And who's your carrier for your phone? Okay?

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<v Speaker 11>I have an S twenty one Verizon.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're on Verizon? Yeah, okay. And have you

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<v Speaker 1>checked to see if you get any free days on

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<v Speaker 1>your international travel?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I have none?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So first thing you got to do call Verizon

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<v Speaker 1>and say do I have any travel past days? And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's number one. So for instance, on my account,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got four travel past days which means I can

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<v Speaker 1>roam for free for four days. Usually that's ten dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a day, and I will get that for free. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing you want to do is see

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<v Speaker 1>if you have anything available on your account, and it

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<v Speaker 1>depends on your plan, how long you've been with them,

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<v Speaker 1>all that good stuff. But if you use your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, standard you turn on your phone and

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<v Speaker 1>open it up in a different country, like they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, okay, welcome to Switzerland. You're now paying ten

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a day for your your global pass and that'll

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<v Speaker 1>only give you I think it's half a gig of

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<v Speaker 1>data a day, which might be enough just to get

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<v Speaker 1>through what you need. But that's ten dollars a day,

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<v Speaker 1>so that can that can add up quickly. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're only there for you know, three four days, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't mind paying the extra forty bucks, it's very

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<v Speaker 1>very simple. You don't really have to change anything at all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's number one. Now you're talking about is an eSIM.

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<v Speaker 1>So an eSIM is built into the new phones. You've

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<v Speaker 1>said you have a S twenty one YEAP and have

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<v Speaker 1>you confirmed that that does have SIM?

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<v Speaker 12>No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, so I'm going to look this up and

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<v Speaker 1>see if it has an eSIM. Let's see the S

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one does have SIM support. Okay, so you're good there.

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<v Speaker 1>The newer iPhones, I think it was iPhone thirteen and up.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't quote me on that, but I they came out

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<v Speaker 1>with them and kind of standardized this technology which is

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<v Speaker 1>in most of the new phones. But what eSIM is,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of a physical SIM card, you can activate a

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<v Speaker 1>SIM card through your phone, so you don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything except just download, download an app, sign up

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<v Speaker 1>for the app, and it'll say, okay, let's activate a

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<v Speaker 1>phone line. And so what you do is you can

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<v Speaker 1>either turn off your other SIM, your standard SIM which

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<v Speaker 1>is your Verizon, and that way you don't get charged

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<v Speaker 1>or anything. Or better yet, you can just turn off

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<v Speaker 1>the data portion and turn on Wi Fi calling and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be able to use your phone if you have

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi, and you'll be able to make and receive calls,

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<v Speaker 1>send your text, all that good stuff. So that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the options now with the eSIM. There are two

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<v Speaker 1>ways I recommend doing the eSIM route. One company is

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<v Speaker 1>called US Mobile, and you download the app and you

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<v Speaker 1>sign up for a plan that is pretty inexpensive. So

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, you're going to Europe, this is twenty dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>will give you ten gigabytes of data for thirty days.

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<v Speaker 1>So for twenty bucks you can roam all around Europe

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty days and get ten gigabytes of data, which

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<v Speaker 1>is more. I think that'll be more than enough for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's very very simple. The other app I like

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<v Speaker 1>is called er low air Alo. Now their ten gigabyte

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<v Speaker 1>plan just for Switzerland is going to cost twenty four dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and so again you buy that through the app and

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<v Speaker 1>then it leads you through the step by step directions

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<v Speaker 1>on how to install that on your Samsung phone. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done this a dozen times. It's very very simple. I've

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<v Speaker 1>only had one problem with it when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>Japan on an Android phone. It worked fine on my iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would not work on my Android for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've not had that same problem in other places.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just a specific problem I seem to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise it works pretty well. But again, Mark, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'd recommend. Call Verizon first, see if you have any

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<v Speaker 1>travel past days, see how many days you have use

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<v Speaker 1>that first. If you want to just have the simplest process,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you don't mind paying. Let's say let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you have three travel past days, you're going for a week,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you don't mind paying the ten dollars every

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<v Speaker 1>additional day you're only there, you know, three extra days.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be thirty dollars total to use your phone

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<v Speaker 1>as you use it in America. Otherwise, I would look

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<v Speaker 1>into the eSIM from US Mobile or Ara Loo. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got both of those linked up on the website, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think those would work for you. Does that sound

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<v Speaker 1>like something you could do?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, I'm going there for three weeks, so oh

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<v Speaker 11>check all that just okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So for three weeks that that definitely changes things. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably I'd probably steer away from the Verizon situation because

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one days times ten dollars a day, that's two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ten dollars. I would not do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>personally would go with the US Mobile twenty dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>ten gigs for thirty days. That'll be more than enough data.

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<v Speaker 1>And just obviously hop on a Wi Fi network whenever possible,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do your banking on the Wi Fi. Always use

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<v Speaker 1>a VPN when you're doing any sort of banking, or

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<v Speaker 1>just use a cellular connection disconnect from Wi Fi whenever

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing something like banking.

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<v Speaker 11>All right, gotcha, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Mark, have a safe trip and a fun

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<v Speaker 1>trip over there. I've heard Switzerland is beautiful. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>there when I was a kid, but only to fly

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<v Speaker 1>in and then drive out to another country. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was as far as I remember. Maybe I'm just making

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<v Speaker 1>this up in my head, but I just remember mountains

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<v Speaker 1>with snow. That's probably just what I've seen on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I think we have time for another call here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to uh Jan in Orange County. Jan you're

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<v Speaker 1>on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, Hi, thank you Rich.

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<v Speaker 12>I just was wondering.

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<v Speaker 9>I have a Samsung and I've always been an Android user,

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<v Speaker 9>and I'm thinking of switching the iPhone and I was wondering, well,

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<v Speaker 9>everything from my Samsung transfer over to an iPhone?

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, yes, the short answer. The short answer is yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm someone who uses both platforms on a daily basis,

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<v Speaker 1>much to my wife's what's is chagrin a word? Okay, chagrin? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what she feels is She's like, which phone are

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<v Speaker 1>you using today? So, Jan, why do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>switch to the iPhone?

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<v Speaker 9>Basically because my son's saying, just get an iPhone, so

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<v Speaker 9>much easier. But I'm used to, you know, my Samsung.

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<v Speaker 9>So will it be easy for me to learn an iPhone?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not. I mean, I'm pretty I feel I'm a

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<v Speaker 9>little maybe a little above average in technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well I like that. So here's the thing. Everyone says,

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<v Speaker 1>just get an iPhone, Just get an iPhone, Just get

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<v Speaker 1>an iPhone. It's easier. So you change your whole life

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<v Speaker 1>just to make their life easier. Okay, I mean, I look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to debate the merits of that conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know what happens across the US on a

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<v Speaker 1>daily basis, and it's mostly to do with I message.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone wants their messages to, you know, go between these

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<v Speaker 1>phones easily. And the one thing you have going for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you if you switch over to an

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone because of your son, is that many people have

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<v Speaker 1>an iPhone and they will be able to help you

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<v Speaker 1>with that iPhone. So when I wrote a book, I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote one hundred and one handy tech tips for the iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did I choose iPhone because it's almost universal here

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<v Speaker 1>in the US. People have an iPhone, they know how

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<v Speaker 1>to they have it, and they know the basics, but

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't know all the little things you could do

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the basics. And so I wrote the

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<v Speaker 1>book because it would reach so many people with that phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Android devices are all very different. If you have a Samsung,

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<v Speaker 1>it's different than a Motorola, it's different from a one Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>it's different than a pixel. So that's the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>these tips and tricks and people helping each other out

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<v Speaker 1>with the Android side of things doesn't happen as much

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, chances are if your friend has an Android,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a totally different model than you have, Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>if they have an iPhone, it's running pretty much the

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<v Speaker 1>same software. So they can say, oh, yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>how to turn on the hot spot here, let me

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<v Speaker 1>show you. So I do think in that case you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be better off. But what type of Android

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<v Speaker 1>phone do you have?

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<v Speaker 9>H it's a Samsung A forty two. It's not a

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<v Speaker 9>very good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really like it, Okay, so okay, well there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Now you don't like it, So I in

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<v Speaker 1>that case then the A forty two is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>their basic models. You know, I think you'd probably be

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<v Speaker 1>happy with an iPhone and being on that group message

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<v Speaker 1>chat with your kids and your friends and the blue

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<v Speaker 1>bubbles and all that stuff. So to answer your original question,

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<v Speaker 1>will things transfer over? Yes, there is an app that

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<v Speaker 1>you would download called move to iOS, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what you download on your Samsung. It's called move to iOS.

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<v Speaker 1>And once you download that, this will help you transfer

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<v Speaker 1>everything over to your iPhone. And so once you have

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<v Speaker 1>your iPhone, you will literally just connect these two devices

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<v Speaker 1>and you can move them over. And so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very simple, simple process and it basically just connects these

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<v Speaker 1>things over a Wi Fi network that it creates between

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<v Speaker 1>these two devices. So what will transfer over? Your contacts,

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<v Speaker 1>your message history, your camera photos, your videos, your photo albums,

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<v Speaker 1>your files, your accessibility settings, your display settings, your web bookmarks,

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<v Speaker 1>reading this off the Apple support page, your mail accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>your WhatsApp, your calendars, and any app that is available

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<v Speaker 1>on both platforms will transfer over. Now, not the actual app,

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<v Speaker 1>but it will just download that app to the iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>So if there's any app that you don't see, you

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<v Speaker 1>can just go ahead and download that later. But from

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<v Speaker 1>what you're telling me, if you're not really happy with

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<v Speaker 1>this Samsung phone and it's a pretty basic phone, I

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<v Speaker 1>say get a new iPhone. You can go with the iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably go with the iPhone fourteen at this

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<v Speaker 1>point and just get the standard iPhone. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be leaps and bounds ahead of what you

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<v Speaker 1>have already. And you could even go to the Apple

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<v Speaker 1>website and see if they'll give you any money for

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<v Speaker 1>that trade in. I don't think they will give you

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<v Speaker 1>much for that phone, but you may get something now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you also go through a carrier, they may try

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a free iPhone. Just know, if they're

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<v Speaker 1>giving you a free phone, it's not necessarily free. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much a three year contract where you have to

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<v Speaker 1>stick with that carrier for three years. And yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>phone you won't be paying a payment for, but you

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<v Speaker 1>will be paying to stay with that carrier for the

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<v Speaker 1>time being. So good question, Jan, Thanks so much. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple has created an app again called move to iOS

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<v Speaker 1>that will help you transfer an Android phone to an iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>Switching phones these days is quite quite simple, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up? More of your calls at Triple eight, Rich

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<v Speaker 1>one O one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two,

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<v Speaker 1>four to one zero one. We got my friend Jefferson

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<v Speaker 1>Graham on tap. He's going to talk about taking pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of fireworks, and then we've got some more news. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell you about a new password manager that

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<v Speaker 1>actually looks pretty good and an app that you should

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<v Speaker 1>download that I use probably on a weekly basis. You

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<v Speaker 1>are listening to Rich on tech. Rich Demiro here, rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech, hanging out on the holiday weekend, talking technology,

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<v Speaker 1>technology arrests. The phone line is U eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to two,

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<v Speaker 1>four to one zero one. Let's go to Jack in

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<v Speaker 1>uh Riverside, California. Jack, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Rich, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing fantastic. How are you?

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<v Speaker 5>I'd be great if you can help me and tell

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<v Speaker 5>me what I did wrong with my Windows desktop?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, what happened?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it used to be a Windows seven. Then I

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<v Speaker 5>rolled up the Windows ten. So but I was using

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<v Speaker 5>a Sea cleaner and it said I have programs slowing

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<v Speaker 5>me down, so I turned them off. Then I couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>get into my Yahoo at and T mail, so I

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<v Speaker 5>tried to restore to an earlier day, and now I

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<v Speaker 5>won't do anything. I tried hitting this, turn it out

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<v Speaker 5>and hitting the state they were restoring it to an

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<v Speaker 5>early day, but he says, there's no restoring dat and

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<v Speaker 5>it still won't come back up.

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<v Speaker 12>What did I do wrong?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>So, where does your computer stand right now? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>What's on the screen?

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<v Speaker 2>That? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing? Okay, Well, it sounds like you might have it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you're in the middle of a restore, but

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<v Speaker 1>it but it stopped and then it now it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's what it's doing. Is that sound about right?

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<v Speaker 5>Sounds like it, yeah, because I was trying to restore

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<v Speaker 5>it from an earlier date, but it never gave me

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<v Speaker 5>a date. And then I took a couple hours. Then

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<v Speaker 5>I said, oh shoot, so that's when I hit turned

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<v Speaker 5>it out, turned it back on. It started hitting the

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<v Speaker 5>skate and then I was able to get that little menu.

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<v Speaker 5>But then it said there's no restort point.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it sounds like you might have lost what's

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<v Speaker 1>on this computer. The first thing I would do is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>unplug it from the wall, let it sit for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and then plug it back in and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Start it up.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're still getting an error message, then it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like you you've lost some data on this drive. I

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<v Speaker 1>would probably boot it up in safe mode, and so

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<v Speaker 1>safe mode will let you see what's happening on this

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<v Speaker 1>computer if there's anything that is you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can still somehow boot up this computer into a basic

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<v Speaker 1>Windows shell and see what's going on there and then

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<v Speaker 1>see if you're you know, and then once you get

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<v Speaker 1>into there, you can troubleshoot a little bit more. But

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<v Speaker 1>that is probably what I would do. Now if none

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff works, If you really can't rescue this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that you're backed up, because that's uh, sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna have to reinstall Windows on this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least restart Windows into a uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a factory. You've got Windows ten on there, you said,

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully you should just be able to go into

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<v Speaker 1>safe mode and restart or reinstall this program. But I

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<v Speaker 1>I this is why I recommend always having a backup,

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<v Speaker 1>because it just you never know when something like this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to happen. You're using a program, you're deleting something,

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<v Speaker 1>you're changing a little setting here or there, and next

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<v Speaker 1>thing you know, the world goes dark, and now you're like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I do? So again, unplug it, let it

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<v Speaker 1>rest for a minute, plug it back in, see if

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<v Speaker 1>it comes back to life, if it doesn't, go into

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<v Speaker 1>safe mode, and see if you can troubleshoot from there.

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<v Speaker 1>But otherwise, if that, if none of those things work,

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<v Speaker 1>you might think about bringing it in somewhere that they

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<v Speaker 1>can troubleshoot before you delete anything off of this computer.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to, you know, fully lose everything. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I would do, and maybe bring it into

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<v Speaker 1>a place like a Shurion or you know, find a

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<v Speaker 1>local you know, local data doctor and if you have

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on this that you need, maybe they can help.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Stella in Santa Monica. Stella, you're on

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<v Speaker 1>with Rich.

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<v Speaker 13>Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich, I'm doing fantastic. How are you?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm doing well. I just want to to say thank

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<v Speaker 10>you for everything that you do. I love your show

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<v Speaker 10>and it's awesome because you help all of us that

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<v Speaker 10>don't know anything about what you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, thank you. Well I try. I'm coming up against

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<v Speaker 1>a break. So what's going on? Stella?

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, my phone's getting hot and also my battery is

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<v Speaker 10>like running like really low, like really fast. Is it

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<v Speaker 10>time for new phone? Is it time for a new battery?

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of phone do you have?

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<v Speaker 10>It's an iPhone Mini twelve, okay, So what you need

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<v Speaker 10>to do is figure out why it's running hot and

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<v Speaker 10>why the battery is running out so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I want you to do is go into

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<v Speaker 1>settings on your iPhone, go into battery and the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing you got to check is the battery health. See

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<v Speaker 1>what your maximum capacity is, and then go in there

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure that it says optimized battery charging, and

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<v Speaker 1>see what's running down your battery. So for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell what's been running down my battery. It'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you a list of all of those things inside there.

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<v Speaker 1>If something is making your phone run hot, delete that app,

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of it, or update your apps and figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what's going on with that battery. Stella all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up Jefferson Graham, we'll talk fireworks photo. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology and

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<v Speaker 1>on the line my friend Jefferson Graham, formerly of USA Today,

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<v Speaker 1>now of Photo Walks TV. Jefferson, thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me.

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<v Speaker 2>Thrilled to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you sound great. Photo Walks TV on YouTube. Definitely

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe because Jefferson is you are everywhere. You are all

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<v Speaker 1>over the US traveling taking pictures, and the best part

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<v Speaker 1>is you're doing everything with your smartphone. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a couple of years back when you told me

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<v Speaker 1>Rich I'm ditching the giant DSLR and I'm going with

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<v Speaker 1>the smartphone. How is that going?

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<v Speaker 2>It's doing great. I actually I have a video that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to run next week where I did it back

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<v Speaker 2>back on the iPhone video versus the Canon DSLR the

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<v Speaker 2>eos R six, and I defy you to see the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's anything, you're getting a better video quality from

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<v Speaker 2>the iPhone on a smaller camera that does not make

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<v Speaker 2>people get their backs up when you walk in the door.

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<v Speaker 2>That is small, it's portable, it's light. It works in

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<v Speaker 2>so many great situations, and it has been fantastic for

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<v Speaker 2>me as a run and gunner going all over the

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<v Speaker 2>place from France and Japan and solve it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Solvang I was in Columbus, Ohio, and I'm about to

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<v Speaker 2>go on a big thirty day shoot between LA and

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<v Speaker 2>South Dakota, stopping in Colorado and Utah and Arizona and Nevada,

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<v Speaker 2>in Wyoming and Idaho, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to be doing a lot of episodes

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<v Speaker 2>doing it this way. So I just got my box

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<v Speaker 2>full of smartphones and accessories.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. And I will say tell you we

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<v Speaker 1>shoot a lot of our TV segments on the iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>because it's easier, it's simpler, it can go anywhere. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>bats an eye because it's an iPhone versus a big

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<v Speaker 1>old camera.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We started out with that on the shoulder camera. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we went to a DSLR, which we still use primarily.

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<v Speaker 1>But now with the wireless mics and all the iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>the quality of the iPhone is just so good. It

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<v Speaker 1>really is the gold standard in video and in photos

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<v Speaker 1>too in a lot of ways. Okay, so first off,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned your thirty day road trip, so you had

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<v Speaker 1>a tip in your newsletter today. Jefferson is very prolific

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<v Speaker 1>with his newsletter, and I'm very jealous of how good

1:30:40.320 --> 1:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>you are at writing these things. But you had a

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<v Speaker 1>tip this week about booking hotel rooms, which is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of anti to everything we would think of tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what that tip is.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the tip is and I learned it from the

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<v Speaker 2>hotel rep in Deadwood, South Dakota. Okay. She said, never

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<v Speaker 2>look online at the hotel site booking dot com, hotels

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<v Speaker 2>dot com, you name it, because you're being you're being

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<v Speaker 2>asked to pay a giant commission. And it started because

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the Windom site. Windom owns super eight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to find hotel rooms right now, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you know it, particularly if you're going for thirty days,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to go cheap, right. Yeah, So it was

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred dollars a night, I believe on the Windom site.

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<v Speaker 2>When I called, she said one fifty, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>what gives? And she goes, Oh, the commissions. The commissions

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<v Speaker 2>are built in, and they're baked into all the sites.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when you go direct, the commissions are built in.

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<v Speaker 2>So you always got a call and I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I learned about those commissions, so the website,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some sort of weird agreement with like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all these like third party websites that the hotel can't

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<v Speaker 1>be cheaper because then basically they could put the websites

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<v Speaker 1>out of business. And so the agreement is that the

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<v Speaker 1>website from the hotel will have the same price as

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<v Speaker 1>like Booking dot Com or Expedia. And so what you're

1:32:08.439 --> 1:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>saying is when you call, of course that's a one

1:32:10.479 --> 1:32:13.479
<v Speaker 1>to one transaction. They can do that for you and

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<v Speaker 1>save you that money. Now, fifteen dollars may not sound

1:32:16.080 --> 1:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>like a lot twenty bucks, thirty bucks, but if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going for thirty days like you just mentioned, that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I cut add up to like one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, wait a minute, I'm talking about five oh fifty

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<v Speaker 2>dollars less for two nights. It was one hundred dollars.

1:32:29.280 --> 1:32:33.599
<v Speaker 2>The place I'm staying in Monument Valley is seventy dollars

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<v Speaker 2>less a night. I'm staying there two nights. That's one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty. Every hotel I called was cheaper I

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<v Speaker 2>I when I called instead of doing the online thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other knock we have to give on booking

1:32:44.760 --> 1:32:47.439
<v Speaker 2>and hotels is you get to the place you hate it,

1:32:47.640 --> 1:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>You're booked for four nights, you say I want out,

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<v Speaker 2>and they say, sorry, there's nothing we can do because

1:32:52.600 --> 1:32:55.439
<v Speaker 2>you went through Booking dot Com. Had you gone direct

1:32:55.439 --> 1:32:57.280
<v Speaker 2>with us, it would have been no problem. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's a little more work. So I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>People want to do everything on the line, and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to you know, book things and you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. If you want to, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to save money at a hotel, just call them direct

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<v Speaker 1>and the best you can do is just ask them

1:33:08.600 --> 1:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and see what they say. If they give you fifty

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<v Speaker 1>bucks off times two nights, three nights, you know, that's

1:33:12.760 --> 1:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a little extra spending money for food or drink or whatever.

1:33:16.240 --> 1:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>So great, great tip. All right, so let's talk fireworks.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people will love to share their fireworks photos

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<v Speaker 1>this coming weekend. Do you even bother taking pictures? Can

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<v Speaker 1>the can the average person get a good fireworks photo?

1:33:32.600 --> 1:33:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the average person can get a great fireworks photo

1:33:35.479 --> 1:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>on their smartphone. I got some great ones last December

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<v Speaker 2>because in the city that I live in, in Manhattan Beach, California,

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<v Speaker 2>we have our fireworks in December, not in July.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's okay. So what so so heroes I see

1:33:51.439 --> 1:33:54.479
<v Speaker 1>are never good, They're always blurry, they're always how do

1:33:54.520 --> 1:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>you get a good one?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, go there with your smartphone, use the wide lens,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the one X that's the sharpest. It's the

1:34:04.479 --> 1:34:07.400
<v Speaker 2>lens that's the best in low light. Don't go ultra wide,

1:34:07.720 --> 1:34:11.000
<v Speaker 2>don't go close up. Just use that one X lens

1:34:11.439 --> 1:34:17.400
<v Speaker 2>and then shoot video of the of a segment. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to tell people they had to use a tripod.

1:34:20.120 --> 1:34:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Now they don't because the image stabilization is so good.

1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:26.240
<v Speaker 2>You can handhold a two minute shot, believe it or not,

1:34:26.800 --> 1:34:30.400
<v Speaker 2>and run videos. So you have the whole thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>on the iPhone the minute you start recording with the

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<v Speaker 2>red button. Right next to the red button is a

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<v Speaker 2>white button and that's for taking pictures. And you could

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<v Speaker 2>just hit that over and over again while you've got

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<v Speaker 2>your backup video going and you can get some great photos.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I like that. The so the one two punch,

1:34:49.720 --> 1:34:51.559
<v Speaker 1>you've got the video because everyone wants the video with

1:34:51.560 --> 1:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the oohs and ah's, and then you get the actual

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<v Speaker 1>still shots. I would actually you gave me an idea

1:34:57.920 --> 1:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>because you're taking the video anyway. You can also go

1:35:01.320 --> 1:35:05.320
<v Speaker 1>into Google Photos if you use that, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>have a feature called export frame. Now do you think

1:35:08.880 --> 1:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>that frame would be clear with the You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you try to do that with the fireworks photos or

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<v Speaker 1>no with the video.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'll be fine. The people at Apple told

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<v Speaker 2>me that you're always going to get a higher resolution,

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<v Speaker 2>better photo if you take it as a photo this way,

1:35:23.760 --> 1:35:25.519
<v Speaker 2>and if you do the frame grab. Now. I do

1:35:25.560 --> 1:35:29.160
<v Speaker 2>frame grabs all day, every day. And for web work,

1:35:29.280 --> 1:35:32.519
<v Speaker 2>it's fine. And I don't know that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>hang fireworks shots on your wall, but you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>safety thing is run the video because you can't go wrong.

1:35:40.960 --> 1:35:43.120
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna get the shot right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love it. Any other tips for this for

1:35:46.400 --> 1:35:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the fireworks specifically.

1:35:48.439 --> 1:35:51.439
<v Speaker 2>I get there early, if you can grab your spot,

1:35:51.760 --> 1:35:54.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, get your best spot, Get as close as

1:35:54.600 --> 1:35:57.200
<v Speaker 2>you can to the front of the line. You don't

1:35:57.200 --> 1:35:59.639
<v Speaker 2>want people's heads in the shot though you are going

1:35:59.640 --> 1:36:02.600
<v Speaker 2>in the sky, so it's okay, but they're always you know,

1:36:02.800 --> 1:36:06.120
<v Speaker 2>scouted out, and don't run all over the place. Just

1:36:06.200 --> 1:36:09.160
<v Speaker 2>pick your spot and you're probably not gonna have a

1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:13.400
<v Speaker 2>tripod and do several video clips. Do you know? Remember

1:36:13.479 --> 1:36:16.479
<v Speaker 2>the best one is the last one, right, So do

1:36:16.560 --> 1:36:19.639
<v Speaker 2>it a few times and you're gonna get some great stuff.

1:36:19.800 --> 1:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>And what do you do with these pictures if you

1:36:21.160 --> 1:36:23.280
<v Speaker 1>don't put them on your wall? What do you social media,

1:36:23.640 --> 1:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>social media, Okay, social media is where it's at. Okay.

1:36:27.160 --> 1:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>So you're going on this thirty day trip. You're going

1:36:30.000 --> 1:36:33.160
<v Speaker 1>all different places. You have a whole bunch of stuff

1:36:33.200 --> 1:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that you pack, and I can't go through it all

1:36:35.160 --> 1:36:36.280
<v Speaker 1>because you've got a lot of it.

1:36:36.360 --> 1:36:40.200
<v Speaker 2>But I love how do you find the newsletter? Jefferson

1:36:40.240 --> 1:36:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Graham dot substack dot com. I'd love to have you

1:36:43.120 --> 1:36:45.720
<v Speaker 2>as a reader. Many people are charging I do not.

1:36:46.000 --> 1:36:48.799
<v Speaker 2>It's free and it comes to your indocks every Saturday

1:36:48.800 --> 1:36:49.240
<v Speaker 2>and Sunday.

1:36:49.360 --> 1:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like clockwork, I get it every Saturday and Sunday,

1:36:52.000 --> 1:36:53.519
<v Speaker 1>and I go, oh, I wish I would have started

1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>mine again. You're the one who made me start this

1:36:55.680 --> 1:36:58.439
<v Speaker 1>in the first place. Okay. So some of the things

1:36:58.439 --> 1:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that you carry, the inst three sixty x three, the

1:37:02.200 --> 1:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Go Pro Hero eleven, a Dji, Mavic Air. You've got

1:37:07.439 --> 1:37:10.519
<v Speaker 1>your USB car adapter, which I think is very smart,

1:37:11.400 --> 1:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>AirPods Pro, You've got a selfie stick, You've got a microphone.

1:37:14.920 --> 1:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's see the other thing you're you're carrying now is

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<v Speaker 1>a Samsung S twenty three? Is that the Ultra?

1:37:22.400 --> 1:37:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Okay, so at the Ultra, but recently the question

1:37:25.560 --> 1:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>is why.

1:37:26.200 --> 1:37:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just curious what your thoughts are on that,

1:37:28.320 --> 1:37:30.599
<v Speaker 1>because I know there's always this big debate of the

1:37:30.640 --> 1:37:34.719
<v Speaker 1>iPhone versus Android with photo quality. How are you noticing

1:37:34.800 --> 1:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the pictures are coming out from that Samsung?

1:37:37.200 --> 1:37:39.080
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, first of all, I just got it

1:37:39.120 --> 1:37:42.919
<v Speaker 2>the other day. Okay, so it's new. There's two features

1:37:42.960 --> 1:37:46.040
<v Speaker 2>in here that I'm very excited about. One is that

1:37:46.080 --> 1:37:49.200
<v Speaker 2>they have a way better telephoto lens. So you have

1:37:49.360 --> 1:37:52.160
<v Speaker 2>basically the equivalent of a two hundred millimeter that's a

1:37:52.240 --> 1:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>ten X right now, you have a three X on

1:37:54.439 --> 1:37:58.040
<v Speaker 2>the iPhone. So I used the S twenty one in

1:37:58.160 --> 1:38:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Japan when I was there. I got some really nice

1:38:00.960 --> 1:38:03.680
<v Speaker 2>telephoto work. I got the new one because of the

1:38:03.880 --> 1:38:09.800
<v Speaker 2>astro star lighting start us. What's it called, Yeah, the

1:38:09.840 --> 1:38:14.960
<v Speaker 2>astrophotography feature. Yeah, photography. Sure, Well, a three hundred X

1:38:15.439 --> 1:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>you can and you can run it for one hour.

1:38:18.000 --> 1:38:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be in the bad Lands National Park

1:38:19.920 --> 1:38:24.360
<v Speaker 2>in South Dakota doing star trails and I really wanted

1:38:24.360 --> 1:38:26.920
<v Speaker 2>to get it for that. I also like the fact

1:38:26.960 --> 1:38:30.280
<v Speaker 2>that you can do varial speed time lapses, which you

1:38:30.320 --> 1:38:33.080
<v Speaker 2>cannot do on the iPhone. I am a time lapse freak.

1:38:33.360 --> 1:38:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I do them all the time, and basically put you

1:38:36.920 --> 1:38:38.840
<v Speaker 2>put the camera on a tripod, you press record, and

1:38:38.840 --> 1:38:41.160
<v Speaker 2>you let us stay there for an hour. But you

1:38:41.200 --> 1:38:44.280
<v Speaker 2>don't have any choices. So with the Samsung, they're giving

1:38:44.320 --> 1:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>you a choice of five X and ten X, basically

1:38:47.160 --> 1:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>making it much faster. And I think that's great. And

1:38:50.960 --> 1:38:53.120
<v Speaker 2>the other reason I bought the camera, just so everybody

1:38:53.160 --> 1:38:55.400
<v Speaker 2>knows is I do lead a lot of photo workshops

1:38:55.640 --> 1:38:57.559
<v Speaker 2>and seminars and I say, here's how you do stuff

1:38:57.560 --> 1:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>on the iPhone, and there's always somebody who says, yeah,

1:39:00.200 --> 1:39:01.960
<v Speaker 2>but how do I do it on the Galaxy? So

1:39:02.000 --> 1:39:03.679
<v Speaker 2>I want to be better well versed.

1:39:04.520 --> 1:39:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I love it. I love it. The other thing

1:39:07.600 --> 1:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I was going to mention is that there's a huge,

1:39:09.800 --> 1:39:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this, like over a

1:39:11.479 --> 1:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>two gigabyte update for the S twenty three Ultras. So

1:39:14.360 --> 1:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>just before you head out, if you haven't updated it,

1:39:17.200 --> 1:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's literally with like in the past three days.

1:39:19.960 --> 1:39:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, check that out.

1:39:21.080 --> 1:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>All right, Jefferson, We're gonna leave it there. Thanks so

1:39:23.080 --> 1:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>much for joining me. Where can folks follow you?

1:39:27.600 --> 1:39:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, lease come to my YouTube which is YouTube dot

1:39:29.760 --> 1:39:32.360
<v Speaker 2>com slash photo walks TV folks, I'm going to go

1:39:32.439 --> 1:39:35.200
<v Speaker 2>live to three o'clock if you're listening live today, and

1:39:35.240 --> 1:39:37.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to show off all the gear in my box.

1:39:37.720 --> 1:39:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

1:39:38.800 --> 1:39:41.479
<v Speaker 2>You can find me on Twitter at Jefferson Graham. Ditto

1:39:41.640 --> 1:39:45.360
<v Speaker 2>for Instagram and the newsletter Jefferson Graham do stufstack dot com.

1:39:45.479 --> 1:39:47.240
<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks so much for joining me, Ja jeff

1:39:47.560 --> 1:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and have a great road trip. Thanks all right, appreciate it.

1:39:51.680 --> 1:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Coming up, it is the end of the show and

1:39:55.040 --> 1:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>your favorite section of the show. I guess we call

1:39:59.040 --> 1:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it the feedback. I got a couple more stories to

1:40:01.960 --> 1:40:05.240
<v Speaker 1>tell you about, plus your feedback. Right here, you are

1:40:05.280 --> 1:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on

1:40:14.360 --> 1:40:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Tech feedback time. Not to be confused with feedback feedback.

1:40:21.560 --> 1:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>This is the section of the show where it's kind

1:40:24.120 --> 1:40:27.280
<v Speaker 1>of like rapid fire. It's probably too fast for any

1:40:27.320 --> 1:40:29.280
<v Speaker 1>of us to understand, but I'm going to do my

1:40:29.280 --> 1:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>best because there's a lot to get through. First off,

1:40:31.680 --> 1:40:36.679
<v Speaker 1>a couple stories. Proton Pass so new password manager from

1:40:36.720 --> 1:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the folks that make proton Email, which is a secure email,

1:40:41.000 --> 1:40:44.679
<v Speaker 1>encrypted email service. They've been running that since twenty fourteen.

1:40:44.840 --> 1:40:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Proton Mail now they came out with a password manager.

1:40:48.280 --> 1:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>And what I like about this password manager is it

1:40:50.240 --> 1:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>is free. Now, of course it's limited in the free scope,

1:40:54.160 --> 1:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's still free, and I think it's actually pretty

1:40:56.920 --> 1:41:00.280
<v Speaker 1>good for what they offer for free. So what they do,

1:41:00.439 --> 1:41:05.800
<v Speaker 1>what their thing is proton password Manager. I want to

1:41:05.800 --> 1:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>just make sure I have this on here. Okay, So

1:41:08.200 --> 1:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it's open source number one, but it also covers your

1:41:13.240 --> 1:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>email address. So that's the main difference between this encrypted,

1:41:18.560 --> 1:41:22.639
<v Speaker 1>open source password manager from proton mail and the others

1:41:22.720 --> 1:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>is that this one also generates a one time email

1:41:27.080 --> 1:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>address for your login, similar to what Apple does. They

1:41:29.920 --> 1:41:32.320
<v Speaker 1>have a program that does that, but then you're linked there.

1:41:32.680 --> 1:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>The more hidden email addresses you generate with Apple, the

1:41:37.000 --> 1:41:39.720
<v Speaker 1>more you are linked to Apple forever. And that's why

1:41:39.720 --> 1:41:42.280
<v Speaker 1>they do that, because they want you to stay in

1:41:42.320 --> 1:41:45.559
<v Speaker 1>that walled garden for as long as humanly possible. And

1:41:45.640 --> 1:41:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not knocking Apple. It's a very smart method of

1:41:48.760 --> 1:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>getting you in there and keeping you there. But if

1:41:51.000 --> 1:41:54.599
<v Speaker 1>you're using third party apps and websites, I always prefer

1:41:54.680 --> 1:41:57.639
<v Speaker 1>those because then you can switch when something better comes along.

1:41:58.080 --> 1:42:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Right now, the iPhone is amazing. What if in in

1:42:00.200 --> 1:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>three weeks, some phone comes out that's just incredible, and

1:42:03.280 --> 1:42:05.439
<v Speaker 1>you want to get out of the Apple ecosystem. Well,

1:42:05.479 --> 1:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be tough if all your passwords and

1:42:08.120 --> 1:42:11.759
<v Speaker 1>email addresses are all linked to Apple iCloud. So anyway,

1:42:12.040 --> 1:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>proton pass check it out. Let's see. It creates email aliases,

1:42:17.479 --> 1:42:20.320
<v Speaker 1>so it's a randomly generated email address. And their argument

1:42:20.479 --> 1:42:23.799
<v Speaker 1>is that you know these email If a website is hacked,

1:42:23.840 --> 1:42:26.519
<v Speaker 1>not only do they get their password, your password, which

1:42:26.600 --> 1:42:28.920
<v Speaker 1>should be random, but then they get your email address,

1:42:29.040 --> 1:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and they say it could be embarrassing depending on the

1:42:30.960 --> 1:42:35.519
<v Speaker 1>email or the website rather, but it does all these things.

1:42:35.600 --> 1:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>The free version of proton pass supports unlimited logins, unlimited

1:42:39.960 --> 1:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>encrypted notes, and a limited number of hide my email

1:42:43.439 --> 1:42:47.320
<v Speaker 1>addresses and two factor authentication logins. So if you want

1:42:47.360 --> 1:42:52.600
<v Speaker 1>everything unlimited, you can subscribe. They're offering an eighty percent discount.

1:42:52.920 --> 1:42:55.479
<v Speaker 1>It's available for just a dollar a month with an

1:42:55.479 --> 1:42:58.880
<v Speaker 1>annual subscription until the end of July forever, they say,

1:42:59.240 --> 1:43:02.400
<v Speaker 1>so basically twelve bucks a year. That sounds like, and

1:43:02.840 --> 1:43:04.599
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna go up to its regular price of four

1:43:04.640 --> 1:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>dollars a month, so forty eight dollars a year. After July,

1:43:07.960 --> 1:43:11.439
<v Speaker 1>so check it out. It's called Proton Pass and I

1:43:11.479 --> 1:43:16.280
<v Speaker 1>have not used this personally, but I actually think it

1:43:16.280 --> 1:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>looks pretty good. California State Parks teaming up with What

1:43:21.320 --> 1:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>three Words. If you watch me on KTLA, you know

1:43:24.439 --> 1:43:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this app in the past. It's called

1:43:26.800 --> 1:43:29.679
<v Speaker 1>What three Words. They have divided up the entire world

1:43:30.200 --> 1:43:33.479
<v Speaker 1>into ten by ten foot squares. Every one of those

1:43:33.479 --> 1:43:37.799
<v Speaker 1>squares has a unique three word label. So the label

1:43:37.880 --> 1:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>for and why would you need this when we have GPS, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in a national park, or you're in anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>there may be a space in that area that you

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<v Speaker 1>want someone to meet you at. Let's say you need

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<v Speaker 1>help your stranded hiker. You're not gonna say, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at Dunswood Park. I'm at this ten by ten square

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<v Speaker 1>foot area, and that way you can find me a

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<v Speaker 1>lot easier. And so that's why California State Parks is

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<v Speaker 1>teaming up with this What three Words app, so dispatchers

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<v Speaker 1>can find exactly where you are if you have this

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<v Speaker 1>app and you know how to use it, So download

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<v Speaker 1>this app What three Words to your phone. And this

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<v Speaker 1>means every park bench, every parking space, every camp site,

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<v Speaker 1>any remote spot on a parking trail or a hiking

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<v Speaker 1>trail has its own what three words address, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell someone exactly where you are with precision down

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<v Speaker 1>to ten by ten. How do you use this in

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<v Speaker 1>the regular world if you're not stranded. Let's just give

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<v Speaker 1>you an example. My photographer and I we meet at

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<v Speaker 1>Anaheim Convention Center. There are ten million places you can

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<v Speaker 1>meet at the Anaheim Convention Center. I send him my

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<v Speaker 1>what three words for the exact bench that I'm sitting on,

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<v Speaker 1>and he can navigate right to that bench. It's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what else here? Two minutes here, Jose says,

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<v Speaker 1>can you help me with a free video editing? And

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of connection do I need to play the

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<v Speaker 1>video from an iPhone to a TV for free video editing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd recommend cap cut. They also have an adapter Lightning

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<v Speaker 1>AV adapter that'll give you an hdm MY output on

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<v Speaker 1>your iPhone. You plug that into your TV. Otherwise, you

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<v Speaker 1>can use an app called Replica to wirelessly beam the

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<v Speaker 1>content from your phone to the TV if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a Smart TV or an Apple TV. Jeremy, commenting on

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<v Speaker 1>last week's story about Uber, how my driver said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't live here. I'm just filling in for my

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<v Speaker 1>brother on his app. He said, hey, rich, Uber does

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<v Speaker 1>have facial recognition for drivers. It's not every time they

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<v Speaker 1>log in, it's just occasionally a request to verify who

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<v Speaker 1>they are through facial recognition. So yeah, they should probably

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<v Speaker 1>do that every time they get in the seat. And finally,

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<v Speaker 1>Angel last week was asking about earbuds with no microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, yeah, I need to find these for my

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<v Speaker 1>wife because I still want to live in my house. Haha.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked my friend Lauren Dragon over at Wirecutter. She

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<v Speaker 1>took time out from her vacation to find these best

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<v Speaker 1>Buy sleep A ten earbuds. She said these are pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much the only things she can think of that do

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<v Speaker 1>not have a mic because are meant for sleeping. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna do it for this episode of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out the show notes at richontech dot tv. Next

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<v Speaker 1>week the app that can take your vitals just by

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<v Speaker 1>snapping a selfie once again. You can find me on

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<v Speaker 1>social media at rich on tech. My name is rich Dmurro.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for listening. There are so many ways

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<v Speaker 1>you can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending

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<v Speaker 1>it right here with me. Congrats to Bobo who got

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<v Speaker 1>married today, Producer Bobo, thanks to Kim on the phones,

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<v Speaker 1>Adam filling in for Bobo, and everyone who makes this

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<v Speaker 1>show possible. Thank you so much for spending part of

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<v Speaker 1>your weekend with me. My name is rich Dumuro. I

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<v Speaker 1>will talk to you real soon