1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: It feels selfish sometimes to be happy. It's hard to 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: figure out to be happy. There's no logical reason why 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: we should be happy. It doesn't make sense. Jimmy Chevill's 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: been hosting his late night show for over twenty years. 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: Jimmy, you don't do a lot of interviews. What does 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: it feel like to be on the other side? 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Putting yourself out there is hard? I started in radio. 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: You're already halfway hidden and nobody sees you. You don't 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: have an audience there to not laugh if you're not funny. 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: When everyone's firing you, letting go of you, telling you 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: this isn't a great idea. How do you hold on 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: to an idea when everyone's telling you it's terrible? 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: Pure delusion? 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Has Talking about your emotion has always been something that 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: you found challenging. 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: And I feel like I've matured a lot thanks to 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: my wife. 18 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: In what way? 19 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: No, don't ask her, Oh she's standing, she wants to 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: be asked? Oh, all right? Before she gets up here, Jay, 21 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: I should just say. 22 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: You've been very open about your son's heart condition, and 23 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: that's been something that I imagine is extremely difficult. 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: To stop and think about someone else and their child 25 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: the number one Health and Well in his podcast Jay 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Setty Jay Shetty Jet. 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: All right, I'm so excited to be here tonight at 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: the Greek in LA with the One and Onney, Jimmy Gimble. 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: Make some noise everyone, Thank you. 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Jay. I want you to 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: know that my first question, as it always is, because 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm never I'm interested. I was watching you and when 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: you have people stand up, and you said, stand up 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: if you've ever worried about how you looked, and I 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: was thinking, I was wondering because I couldn't see the 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: audience if anyone didn't stand, because I think everybody and 37 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: if there was a person who's never worried about how 38 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: they looked, that's the person I want to hang out 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: with after the show. But I said, what is the dress? 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: You know what is the because you know I want 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: to fit in. They said it's elevated casual. I was like, 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: all right, well, okay, I'll find something that seems to 43 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: fit that category. And then I come here and you 44 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: are just like Adam Sandler. 45 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: I'm not wearing shorts. It's just not wearing shorts. 46 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: Is technically elevate And what is it elevate from I 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: don't know what this is, but I assume what you 48 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: want to go to seven eleven. There's nothing. This is 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: just casual. 50 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: This is not this is interesting level. 51 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: Casual is what it is. 52 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 2: Jimmy, this is not the roast of. 53 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: I was told differently. 54 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: I think you're at the wrong event. I think we're 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: gonna see you stand up. 56 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: If you've ever eaten a whole pizza by yourself. 57 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: Jimmy, with three minutes in and you started roasting me already, 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's my nature. 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: I was telling you. I was why it was confusing 60 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: to me, because you're talking to these people, and everybody's 61 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: got these great stories, and you're hypnotizing them with your eyes. 62 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: I know what you do. You know, like eighty five 63 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: percent of this audience is here in the hope they 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: might get to have sex with you, right, That's why 65 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: I showed up. 66 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: So how does this go, Jimmy? How does that work 67 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: between me and you? What sex? Yeah? 68 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: Well, when a host and his guests fall very much 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: in love, they go into the dressing room and I'll 70 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: show you from there. 71 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. My wife would not approve. Thank you 72 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: so much. That's the only reason. Thank you so much. 73 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate, Jimmy. You don't do a lot of interviews, 74 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: but you. 75 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: No one wants to talk to me. 76 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: You agreed to do this one? Why now? 77 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: Why here? 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: And what does it feel like to be on the 79 00:03:59,120 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: other side. 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: First of all, my wife loves you, and so I've 81 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: become exposed to you your magic. We have some mutual friends, 82 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: and really, I said to my wife, I said, hey, 83 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: Jay Shetty asked me if I would do his show. 84 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: I said, what do you think? She said, well, I'd 85 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: like to hear you on that and I said, all right, 86 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: well you're not listening to me at home, so maybe 87 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: maybe we can accomplish something. 88 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: Well, it makes the magic happen. Where is she? 89 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: I he is here, but I don't know where she's sitting. 90 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: She may be If you guys, this happened right on 91 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: a card? What do you think of her? We'll hand 92 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: them to her. 93 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: Thank you for making this happened, Jimmy. Let's start there. Actually, 94 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: you know, tonight has been all about what we don't 95 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: do because of what people think of us. The things 96 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: we worry that people are perceiving about us, the judgments, 97 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: the criticisms, that people have of us. Talk to me 98 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: about the time in your life when you really felt 99 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: like prison by that. 100 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: If ever, oh, very much so all the time, not 101 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: just I mean really honestly, Like if I'm at an 102 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: event and I'm not dressed properly, I feel In fact, 103 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: I went to a wedding recently. A very good friend 104 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: invited me to be in his wedding party, and he 105 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: was not great with the details of the party. But 106 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: again another dress code situation. This one was festive attire, 107 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: which means nothing to me. And I was in the 108 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: wedding party and I wore what I thought was festive attire, 109 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: and I showed up and everyone else was in a 110 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: black suit, and so I'm the idiot in all these 111 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: wedding photos and that, you know, that's I feel uncomfortable 112 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: with the simple things like that. But I you know, 113 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: putting yourself out there is hard. And I'm not talking 114 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: about show business necessarily. I think that there are a 115 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: lot of people that I've known over years and years 116 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: who are really good at something, and you tried your 117 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: best to encourage them to do that thing that they're 118 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: good at, and they're either going to do it or 119 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: they aren't. And sometimes for them, you saying they're good 120 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: at it is enough. That's enough for them, and they 121 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: don't want to threaten that idea. They don't want you 122 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: to ever think, oh, you weren't good at that, so 123 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: they leave it. And I think that's to me, that's 124 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: so sad that people will do that, because I do 125 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: think that there are so many people who know they 126 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: have this potential or this talent or whatever it is, 127 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: and they just they don't use it because they don't 128 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: want to be proven otherwise because everyone in their little 129 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: circle thinks it and they don't want to change their minds. 130 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: And I know that's an inelegant way of saying it, 131 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: but you just really need to do it. You have 132 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: to do it. And I for me, I was fortunate 133 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: because I started in radio, and when you're on the radio, 134 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: you're already halfway hidden and nobody sees you. You don't 135 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: have an audience there to not laugh if you're not funny, 136 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: so you just kind of have to assume you were 137 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: and you keep going. And I was able to take 138 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: baby steps from being on the radio to being the 139 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: sidekick on a game show to being a partner on 140 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: a comedy show to eventually doing my own show, and 141 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I would have been able to 142 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: take that big leap. I was fortunate, really genuinely fortunate 143 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: and very lucky to have been in a situation where 144 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: I could take those steps one by one. Oh yeah, 145 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's just a lot of it is luck. 146 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: You know. That's the other thing that is a sad truth. 147 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: But a lot of it is luck. Now you have 148 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: to be ready when you get that moment where you 149 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: are lucky, when you have that moment of fortune, you 150 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: have to be prepared and you have to do whatever 151 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: it is that you need to do to accomplish whatever 152 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: goal you would like to accomplish. But still, luck is 153 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: a big part of it. 154 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to get to that, but I want 155 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: to I want to go backwards a little bit because 156 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: I read somewhere that you actually grew up wanting to 157 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: be a scientist. 158 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: No, no, I don't know where you read that, But 159 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: that is false. 160 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 161 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Was I farting into ziploc bags and leaving them under 162 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: my sister's pillow? Yes, if that, if that's what you 163 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: consider to be science, I wanted to be a scientist, 164 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: but no, science was never my thing. I wanted to 165 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: be an artist. When I was a kid, I like 166 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: to draw. That was my thing. I wanted to drawing. Yes, 167 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: I would you draw. I draw my classmates, which they 168 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: never liked. I would draw anything, superheroes when I was 169 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: a little kid, caricatures of people. I'd draw my family. 170 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: I draw David Letterman on the television as I was 171 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: watching him. Pretty much. I still to this day if 172 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: i'm if I have a pen and a piece of paper, 173 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: I'll just scribble whatever whoever is sitting in front of 174 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: me as we're sitting there. 175 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: Wow. And so you still do it today? 176 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: I do? 177 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: Have you done it on the show? 178 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: Ever? A couple of times? It's hard to be funny 179 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: and draw at the same time. They're like, they're totally 180 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: different parts of your brain. They definitely got that wrong. 181 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: The media never gets anything wrong, right, So yeah, this 182 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: scientist in this case, it's your fault in this case. 183 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: I'm always fascinated by what people wanted to be when 184 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: they were growing up and then what they end up becoming, 185 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: because I think there's so much hidden in childhood and 186 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: there's so many experiences, so many things we hear say 187 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: the subjects we study at school. But you've had this 188 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: history of pranks always being a central pillar, and for 189 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: most of us, maybe you did a few pranks when 190 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: you were a kid. How many of you did some 191 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: pranks when you were kids? Are your pranks? Yeah, all right, 192 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: a few of you. I did a lot of pranks 193 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: when I was kids, but sometimes you leave those behind. 194 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: But you actually lost jobs because you did pranks on 195 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: your colleagues, Yeah, yeah, bosses. 196 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: Right, all right, it's just going to be where I 197 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: crack open this June and there's a cocker roach in 198 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: it or something like that because you plaunted it. Because 199 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: this is sabotage, there's a prank. Yeah, I love pranks. 200 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: I think the reason that I love pranks is because 201 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: I grew up in a family that would scream and 202 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: yell when I did something, and I got a great 203 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: reaction out of it. I mean, really, if you don't 204 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: want to be pranked, just don't react. That's the way 205 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: to go. But I grew up. My aunt Chippy is 206 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: a very loud woman. She is on my show regularly. 207 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: We are still she's eighty five years old. Most recently, 208 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: I started by putting little explosive in her cigarettes. And 209 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: tying cans to the back of her car, and she 210 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: would go to work, or she'd be in the casino 211 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas smoking and pow the cigarette would blow up, 212 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: and then she'd call and curse me out over the phone. 213 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: And I loved it. And now that I have a 214 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: TV show, I'm able to escalate. So a couple of 215 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: months ago, this has been a dream of mine since 216 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: I saw those Waymo cars. She doesn't know about these 217 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: lives in Las Vegas, and she's never seen a self 218 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: driving car. So I had a guy pretend to be 219 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: a chauffeur in a Waymo car pick her up at 220 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: the airport. He gets out of the car, he opens 221 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: the door for her. He says, I have to you 222 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: might have to use the restroom and then we'll go. 223 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, no problem, go ahead. He closes the 224 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: door of the car and off it goes. And there 225 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: was some real concern that this might kill her because 226 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: she's eighty five. So I wrote to each of her daughters, 227 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: my three cousins. I said, listen, here's the one I'm 228 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: planning to do your mother, and I need your permission 229 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: beforehand because I don't want to kill her. On TV 230 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: and if I do I need someone to blame. Within seconds, 231 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: they all said, oh, definitely do it. Definitely do it. 232 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: So we've got a sick family, but a fun family. 233 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: But talk to me about when you won't you didn't 234 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: have the reason is to put it off your own 235 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: show and you were losing jobs of a pranking your bosses. Yeah, 236 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: first of all, where does the audacity come from? And 237 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: second of how do you keep doing it? I believe 238 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: it wasn't just once. 239 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it audacity so much as I would 240 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: call it stupidity. I thought that I was a dish jockey. 241 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: I did a morning radio show, and I worked at 242 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: a lot of radio stations in a lot of cities. 243 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: If you've lived in the city, I've probably had a 244 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: job and been fired in that city. And each time 245 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: I thought the bosses would be on board with the 246 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: idea that the listeners would think it was funny if 247 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: I was torturing them, because then they could drive their 248 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: work and go I love hearing this. These guys screw 249 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: at their bosses. I wish I could do that, but 250 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it through them, and they never liked it 251 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: at all. They would tell me they were gonna like 252 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: it when they hired me, and then when it happened, 253 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: they hated it. Just dumb stuff. Once we were golfing 254 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: and I latched their golf bags on the back of 255 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: the carts and then forgot about it for like six 256 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: holes and then ran over their golf clubs. Once I 257 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: completely smashed the inside of a hot dog. It's a 258 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: long story, but there was a hot dog that he 259 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: didn't eat, and he threw in the garbage, and every 260 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: night I would sneak in and put it in his 261 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: drawer in his desk. And each day he'd open his 262 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: desk and there'd be a hot dog in there, and 263 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: he didn't know why, and he'd throw in the garbage again. 264 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: And then each time I would get in there and 265 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: I'd put it back in the desk. And then he 266 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: started locking his office. And so I climbed in over 267 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: the you know the offices have that like kind of 268 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: really cheap ceiling. I lowered myself in, and as I 269 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: lowered myself completely, the desk collapsed, the shelves collapsed. It 270 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: looked like the North rich earthquake had happen only in 271 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: his office. I knew that I'd be fired if he 272 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: found out. So I just got out of there and 273 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: locked the door, put the hot dog in before I left, 274 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: and never mentioned it again. I don't know what he 275 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: thought happened, but eventually they'd fire me. Eventually they'd have 276 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: enough of mine. 277 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: Now, how did that conversation go the firing? Was there 278 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: a conversation or you just go to messes like it would. 279 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: Go like this? Yeah, of course there were different situations, 280 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: but generally it would go so, you know how you 281 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: work here, Now tomorrow you won't be working here. And 282 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: in fact, we're gonna get a box, we're gonna go 283 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: in your office, or we're gonna get all your shit 284 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: and we're gonna walk you out to the parking lot. 285 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: I have to say to this day, I hate firing people. 286 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: It crushes me to fire somebody, even if they deserve it, 287 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: even if they've done something bad, because I've been fired 288 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: so many times and it sounds funny. These stories are 289 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: I know, I get that they're funny, but it wasn't 290 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: funny at all at the time. You know, I was 291 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: making like eighteen thousand dollars a year and then had 292 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: to go home and first of all, tell my wife 293 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: at the time that I'd been fired again for being 294 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: an idiot, and that we're gonna have to pack all 295 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: our stuff and move to Tucson. And that happened over 296 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: and over and over again, until eventually I found a 297 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: radio station here in La k Rock that valued my 298 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: commitment to nonsense. And I also grew up a little 299 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: and I learned like, Okay, don't call your boss's wife 300 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: at home on the air and dig into their personal life. 301 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Those kind of lessons, those important lessons that you learn 302 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: along the way. And I was able to keep that 303 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: job until I got a job in television. 304 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: I love your commitment to the prank. 305 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: I have love things going on right now that would 306 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: blow your mind that I can't even talk about because 307 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: they're bubbling. But what my thing is my wife does 308 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: not like. When I my wife, I got her a 309 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: Did you know you can get a personalized license plate 310 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: for anyone's car? 311 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: No, How does that explain that to me? 312 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: Well, what you do is you fill out the forms 313 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: and then you forge the person's signature at the bottom, 314 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: and you right on the thing what you would like 315 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: their personalized license plate to be. In my wife's case, 316 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: I made it we be jamming, and then the license 317 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: plate came in the mail and I went out in 318 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: the garage and I screwed it onto the car and 319 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: I waited until she was you know, until she came 320 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: out to the car, and she wasn't happy. But I've 321 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: done that with a lot of people. My band leader, 322 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: who plays the saxophone, I made one that says send 323 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: youor saxy and I put that on his car. I 324 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: got the idea to you two concert. Somebody had a 325 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: license plate said you two fan. I thought, oh, okay, 326 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: maybe I'll do that in a bad way. 327 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: What's a firing conversation that went wrong? What's the worst 328 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: time you've fired someone and you're like, oh, I shouldn't 329 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: have done it like that. 330 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: Oh well, one time it went on for like three 331 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: and a half hours. It was me because of me 332 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: and them crying and just kind of going around in 333 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: circles over and over again, and until finally I was like, 334 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: all right, I gotta go pick up my kids. 335 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: That's the way you fired them. Then hugged them. 336 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, yeah, there's always some hugging involved. Yeah, 337 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not great. I got fired one 338 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: time and i'd been fired now so many times I 339 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: knew what was I knew was coming because the way, 340 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: do you know, is they stop yelling at you. And 341 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: once they stopped yelling at you, you're in trouble. They're like, 342 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: I forget and we don't why bother We're firing them 343 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: in three weeks. But I went in and it was 344 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: me and my partner on the radio, and they sat 345 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: us down. They said, listen, you know, we're going to 346 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: go in a different direction, and you know all that 347 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: bullshit that they say to you and probably best for 348 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: you guys too, And I'm thinking, no, it's not. And 349 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 1: then they gave the whole spiel and they were nervous, 350 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: and I said, listen, here's what we're going to do. 351 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: We're going to come to work on Monday morning and 352 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: we're going to pretend like none of this ever happened. 353 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: And there was a long moment of confused and terrified silence, 354 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: and then I started laughing and gave him the finger 355 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: and left. 356 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: I think, before we dive into the next moment, let's 357 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: hear from our sponsors and back to our episode. On 358 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: a serious note, what's beautiful about that is you were 359 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: able to hold on to a really authentic part of 360 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: self expression. That was your comedy. It was something you 361 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: found funny. It was something that you really believed it 362 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 2: was something everyone would find funny. You didn't give up 363 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: on that. You were able to hold on to it 364 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: and find a place eventually that allows you to pull 365 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: off these crazy things. How did you stay true to 366 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: that when everyone's firing you, letting go of you, telling 367 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: you this isn't a great idea, it's pushing people the 368 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: wrong way. Like, how do you hold on to an 369 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: idea when everyone's telling you it's terrible. 370 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: Pure delusion? Just like a lot of the things I 371 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: thought were so funny weren't even funny, Like they weren't funny, Like, 372 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't that good at my job. And 373 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: I think that's an important thing too, because I look 374 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: back at these jobs and I go, well, it wasn't 375 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: all their fault, you know. Like on one hand, I 376 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: feel like maybe they should have recognized that I was 377 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: always a very hard worker and that I did have 378 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: some talent. I think every one of them would tell 379 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: you that. But on the other hand, like I was 380 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: kind of crazy, you know, I was doing anti social things, 381 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: and they didn't get it, and they didn't want to 382 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: deal with it. They were adults, and I was this asshole, 383 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, this kid, and they didn't want to deal 384 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: with it. But I do have this thing where I 385 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: just kind of figure like, well, if I think it's funny, 386 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: then surely there will be other people that think it's funny. 387 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: And it applies to other people too. You know. One 388 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: of the best things about my job, and really about 389 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: even when I was on the radio, is I've been 390 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: able to identify and help other people who I saw 391 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: as talented and who didn't quite know how to do 392 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: it or make their way in or stay there once 393 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: they got in, And that to me is very sad. 394 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: Even just putting my aunt Chippy on television right now, 395 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm not the first person to put one of their 396 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: relatives on television, but I just kind of looked around 397 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: and go like, well, I think she's funny, and so 398 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: I think other people will think she's funny. And the 399 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: same with my uncle Frank, her ex husband, who was 400 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: on my security guard on the show before Giermo was there, 401 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: and then they were there at the same time. He 402 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: was just this weird, very neurotic, very anxious former cop 403 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: from New York who only arrested six people in twenty 404 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: years and had this strange outlook on life where he 405 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: would take two hundred dollars out of his atm at 406 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: the beginning of the week and then he wanted to 407 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: have zero dollars in his wall at the end of 408 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: the week and it had to be that way, and 409 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: so if he had any money left in his wallet 410 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: on Sunday, he'd just give it to people, like strangers. 411 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: He just handed out to people. And he was always 412 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: doing this like weird stuff. And I, you know, at 413 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: one time, my band leader on my show is my 414 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: best friend since I was nine years old. We grew 415 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: up across the street from each other, and I didn't 416 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: know my relatives were funny until he thought they were funny. 417 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, they're annoying. They're always yelling at 418 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: each other. They're you know, so like, oh, they're coming over. 419 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: He's I said, my Aunt Chippy and Uncle Frank are 420 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: coming over. He's like, oh, can I come. I was 421 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: like what. He's like, Oh, they're hilarious. I was like 422 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: they are and that clicked for me. I was like, oh, yeah, 423 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: they are hilarious, and it turned out he was right, 424 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: and I've just kind of operated by that principle for 425 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: my whole life. 426 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about family, it just became a granddad too, 427 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: right I did. 428 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: My daughter Katie had a baby, a baby girl. Probably 429 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: should have got more applause for that, but thank you. 430 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: I feel like almost killing my aunt Chippy got more 431 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: applause than having a granddaughter. But yeah, we're very excited. 432 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: She's what like maybe like eight days old or something. Yeah, yes, 433 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: smoking already, which we're we're concerned about. 434 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 2: But how does that feel way? What is that like psychologically? Internally? Mentally? 435 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know. People seem to think like, 436 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: first of all, people approach you cautiously in a way 437 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: about it, like, oh, so you're having like like I'm 438 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: gonna be upset about this? What kind of an asshole 439 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: would be upset about having her grandchild? But I guess 440 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: people don't want to be thought of as old, and 441 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't really care that much about that. I'm just 442 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: excited to have a little and also being a grandparent. 443 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be, first of all, an incredible 444 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: way to get revenge on my children. 445 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: Tell me, how, uh, what are the pranks that are bringing. 446 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: Not even pranks, just all the things they did to 447 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: me that they're gonna say. I know they're gonna go, 448 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: don't give please put them to bed before eleven o'clock, 449 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: you know, don't give them a bunch of Reese's pieces. 450 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna nod, just like my parents do. And 451 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna do all the shit they don't want 452 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: me to do. And I think that's one of the 453 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: grands where the circle of life, you know. But it's 454 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: fun and it's exciting, and it's strange to see my 455 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: daughter as a mom. I think that for me is 456 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: is that it's not really about how I feel, because 457 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: I've always felt like the same person. I feel like 458 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm the same person I was when I was nine 459 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: years old. But to see like your daughter holding a 460 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: baby and smiling is it's, yeah, people know, it's great. 461 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely give it up. It's it's beautiful to hear 462 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: about that, because yeah, it's uh, I've I have no experience. 463 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: You have no grandchildren. 464 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 2: I have kids, no grandkids, And it's really fascinating watching 465 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: someone you love grow into becoming someone else. Like you said, 466 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 2: it was strange watching her do it what are you 467 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 2: noticing in her that's that feels that way. 468 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: Well, she's breastfeeding, which she'd never done before. You know, 469 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: she's just seeing My daughter is very funny. All my 470 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: kids are really funny. My daughter, Katie is very funny. 471 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: She's got a very strange sense of humor. She's an artist. 472 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: She makes these funny ceramics. Her name is Katie Kimmel. 473 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: You could see her on Instagram and she you will 474 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: get you will understand what I'm talking about. She does 475 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: like today she sent me like I sent her a 476 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: text this morning and I said, you're not posting enough 477 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: pictures of the baby on the stream, And so she 478 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: just posted a bunch of pictures of the baby screaming 479 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: and crying, and the baby's wearing a onesie that says 480 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: I'm eleven years old. So I know she's gotta you know, 481 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: she's not going to be a traditional mom, but just 482 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: seeing or be a mom is is Uh, it's just funny. 483 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: It's it's I think it's like anything like when I 484 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: try to remember how old I am, I don't know 485 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: if you ever forget how old you are? Yeah, I 486 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: have to remember how old My sister is an ad 487 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: three years. That's how I get to it. And just 488 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: seeing my kids become adults and my both of my 489 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: older kids are married, and like having to pay rent 490 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: and to and be a husband and a wife is weird. 491 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: It's just weird. You know, it's great, but it's weird. 492 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they obviously inherited your comedic gene. It sounds like, yeah, 493 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: I know, I don't. 494 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily classified as genius. But they are very 495 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: funny and they're just very good people. I think more important. No, 496 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: funny's more important there, let me rank it. Hold on 497 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: a second. Yeah, funny definitely more important than good, but 498 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: both important, super important. 499 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what's a part of you that you didn't 500 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: want them to inherit? 501 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: My nose? I didn't want my daughter to have my beard, 502 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: for sure. My anxiety maybe, of course, you know, kids 503 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: they inherit that, whether you want them to or not. 504 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: But I think anxiety, yeah, And I think like growing 505 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: up without any money adds a measure of anxiety. But 506 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: then you realize, like, you know, my older kids, I 507 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: didn't have any money when they were growing up, and 508 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: now my younger kids I do. It's interesting because they 509 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: somehow managed to get to the anxiety like they find 510 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: different paths to it. It has nothing. It turns out 511 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't like for me. Like when I was a 512 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: kid and I love to draw. I told you I 513 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: would get like a set of pens for Christmas, and 514 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: I would never want to use them because if I 515 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: use them, they'd run out. And so I'd have these 516 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: pens that I never used and eventually they just dry out. 517 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: Because we lived in Las Vegas, and what it's terrible thing. 518 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: So now you know what I do. I buy a 519 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: million art supplies and the house is like a dick blick. 520 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: You know that my house is just full of these 521 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: art supplies. And I know that I will never I 522 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: will not live long enough to use all this stuff, 523 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: but knowing it's there makes me feel like I've conquered 524 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: that anxiety in some way by hoarding. By hoarding, So. 525 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: The reason why anyone else can't get art supplies is 526 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel, that's right, Yes, walk me through what anxiety 527 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: really feels like at this point now in your life. 528 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: How are your relationship with it's changed over that time, 529 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 2: from going from being anxious about not having money, no 530 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: having resources, not having a job, what does that look 531 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: like As the externals change, what happens on the inside. 532 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: Well, it's a lot simpler when you don't have any money, 533 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: because the things you're thinking about are, you know, do 534 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: I have enough cash in mycking account to have lunch 535 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: today to get a twenty dollars bill out? And like 536 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I have twenty one dollars and eighteen cents. Great, 537 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, and that's significant certainly. But then you get 538 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: in a wind have been a position where a lot 539 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: of people rely on you for a lot of things, 540 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: and people will come to you with very serious needs, 541 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: serious requests. Your relationship with people changes. It's hard to 542 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: navigate that. It's hard to even find people to talk 543 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: about it with. There are, as far as I know, 544 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: no books on how to handle it. And you wind 545 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: up having these kind of like intimate conversations with famous 546 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: people you don't even really know that well. I mean, like, 547 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: I know a guy who is a real like family guy, 548 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: who's a very wealthy guy. He's a very famous actor. 549 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: And I said, how many houses have you bought for 550 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: your your family? And he thought about for a second 551 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: and he goes, seventeen. That was my reaction too, and 552 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: you can't be the nephew anymore. At that point. You're 553 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: the person that people go to when they need something, 554 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: and it can be a lot, you know, it really can. 555 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly I shouldn't complain. Now it sounds 556 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: like I'm complaining. Oh Jesus. We all have problems, right, 557 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean some of them are just different than others. 558 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you do about that anxiety? What do 559 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: you do with it? Just buy more houses. 560 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: For the most part. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it depends, you know, 561 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: But I'm hopefully getting better about it, you know, because 562 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: it's hard to explain to people when they want money, 563 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: but your relationship with them is more important than that money. 564 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: And then sometimes you realize like, oh wait, their relationship 565 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: with me is not more important than the money, and 566 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: that's when you have to reevaluate the relationship. 567 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: That's tough. Yeah, it's hard, that's really really t uh. 568 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, is there someone particular or someone specific 569 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: that you think about when you when you share that. 570 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: My wife, ha ha, she sucking me dry? Jaye? How 571 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: much do I get for this? Do I get paid? 572 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: No? 573 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: No? 574 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: No, sh no, she made you do this for free? 575 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: No, there's no one in particularly, just it comes up, 576 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, it happens. 577 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, in my small journey with it, I've definitely experienced 578 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: as well, losing people that you thought you were close to. Yeah, 579 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: realizing what standard or frequency of relationship you had with 580 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: someone and you put them up here and you thought 581 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: you had this bond and actually realized it was just 582 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: based on finances or access or whatever it may be. 583 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get an email from somebody you went to 584 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: the sixth grade with asking for a huge amount of 585 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: money for something nonsensical. 586 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 2: It's not even for a charity, it's never it's crazy. 587 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: Any crazy requests you can share. 588 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, Yeah, we've had a lot of raising requests. 589 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, people think you can wave a 590 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: magic wand and make all their problems go away, and 591 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: it's not true. You know, even if a lot of 592 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: times you give them what they want, they still have 593 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: to deal with whatever got them there in the first place. So, 594 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, trying to keep that in mind I think 595 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: is important. But these are not the kinds of things 596 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: that occur to people when they were in a pinch. 597 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, You've been talking about your wife allow tonight 598 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: and how long have you been. 599 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: Together now we are celebrating our twelfth anniversary in July. 600 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: We've been together I don't know, like sixteen years or 601 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: something like that. 602 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. And I believe you met on the show. 603 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: I did, Yes, we met on the show. My wife 604 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: is the executive producer, one of the executive producers of 605 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: the show. And we made love. And I asked her. 606 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: Say, it wasn't you and your guest it was. 607 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: I got right to it. Yeah, no, she was not 608 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: a guest. Now, it wasn't like us. 609 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't like us, a bit different. This is terrible. 610 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: This is uh, it's terrible that I'm very gentles. 611 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: This is all my this is this is what my 612 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: British friends worry about LA being like this is this 613 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: is what they all worry about. 614 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: You mean, all the friends who got buggered in boarding 615 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: school are worried about now. 616 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: They're all like, what's what all the parties in LA like? 617 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: And you know, I'd be like, what's Jimmy Kimmel actually like? 618 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna have to show them this. 619 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, let them know, invite them over. 620 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: Above from the Franks. What have been the There's a 621 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: lot of people out here either looking for love who've 622 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: we're still searching And everyone always says it's always hard 623 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: to date in La. Yeah is that true? 624 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: I think it is. I mean I've never really been 625 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: in that position. I've gone from one long term relationship 626 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: to another. But certainly people close to me and my 627 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: life of I've seen them have a really hard time 628 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: and even like think like, well maybe I should move 629 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: back to Chicago and that kind of thing, and I go, well, 630 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: wait a minute, but there's there's just the people here 631 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: and there whatever. And obviously the apps have changed that 632 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: a lot, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse, 633 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: I guess, depending on what your intentions are. But yeah, 634 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: sometimes I feel bad for people because it does seem 635 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: to be hard. 636 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's been the secret for your connection? What's been 637 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: the secret source? That's sixteen years and the twelve years 638 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: of marriage. 639 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: Left to my own devices, I'm not great, okay, but 640 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: my wife is very good. She will say she wants 641 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: to I'm just checking in with you, and I'm like, 642 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: what is this checking in? She probably learned it from. 643 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: You, just checking all right? Yeah, that sounds about right. 644 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: There's four check ins. There's one every week, one every month. 645 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: When every quarter and one every. 646 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: Year, and I get nervous. I'm like, well, what are 647 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: you checking in about? What am I a motel? It's like, no, 648 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: just how are you? How you doing? I'm like, Oh, 649 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm fine? What did you hear? I don't know? I 650 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: have a very I have tunnel vision, you know, Like, 651 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: I got stuff I need to get done, and I 652 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: want to get it done, and sometimes I forget it. 653 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: There are other human beings around me that, you know, 654 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: would like to check in from time to time. So 655 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot, and I'm still not great at it, 656 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: but I am better at it than I was. And 657 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I've matured a lot thanks to my wife. 658 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: And in what way have I matured? Oh Jesus Christ. 659 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: You don't get away with saying I knew you would. 660 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: Do this, Shay, I knew it. I knew coming in here. 661 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: What ways have I matured? Now? When we hold hands, 662 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't take hers and put it behind me and 663 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: fart on it anymore. And that's a big step for me. 664 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: All right, Let me get serious here. It's hard. I 665 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: make jokes when I'm confronted with a serious situation. No, 666 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: don't ask her, I don't know if she wants to 667 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: be asked. Oh, she's standing, she wants to be asked. Huh, 668 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: all right, I need a mite, all right before she 669 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: gets up here, Jay, I should just say I haven't matured. 670 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: I was lying. I just wanted to sound I wanted 671 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: to fit in with the podcast. Oh this is what 672 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, right, I sit on my lap. 673 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna sit on you. I'm not gonna 674 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: sit on your lap. He gets uncomfortable when we talk 675 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 3: about serious things. He's definitely maturing in that area. 676 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: Well, I don't see any evidence of that. 677 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 3: I'd like to say, first of all, I'm very proud 678 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: of you coming here and being here, because I think 679 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 3: that's mature of you. Jimmy is incredibly self deprecating if 680 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 3: you can't tell, and that's his defense, which is beautiful 681 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 3: and wonderful, and we all get to enjoy it. 682 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: But I get. 683 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 3: To tell people how wonderful you are, and I love 684 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: to do that. And I think one of the things, 685 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: the most beautiful things you've done and evolving as a 686 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: human is sharing your story regularly on the show, fighting 687 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 3: for health care, for children, fighting for people. 688 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: I think I. 689 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: Think maybe you went from being a little more inward 690 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 3: to outward over the last decade of your life. I 691 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 3: think it's been beautiful to witness. 692 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for bringing it out of me. 693 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 2: You're welcome. 694 00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. 695 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: All right. 696 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 3: You have a lot of more work to do though, 697 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 3: So Jimmy, Jimmy, now it's your time. 698 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: We need uh, you know, turn this into a session. Yeah, okay, 699 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 2: now it's your time. Please. 700 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, is it just me or does 701 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: it suddenly smell like toast? 702 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: It does? You're having a stroke? 703 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: He's having a stroke. Oh, wouldn't you love that? Well? Yeah, 704 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, I'm always amazed at how easily these kind 705 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: words come out of my wife, and not just for me, 706 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: but for others like you. There's nobody you'd rather have 707 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: give a toast at your birthday dinner, because she really 708 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: speaks from the heart and speaks very beautifully and makes 709 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: people feel really good. And I don't think there's any 710 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: better quality than that. 711 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 2: Thank you. I love you, and I love you. I 712 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: love you too much. Thank you so much. We'll see 713 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 2: other night goes life to all right? Thank you, give 714 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 2: it up for everyone. 715 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh you really put me on the spot there, Jay. 716 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 2: Oh, she saved you. She saved me, He saved you. 717 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, putty on the spot. 718 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: But you're right. 719 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 2: Okay, So now we're going from couples therapy to individual therapy. 720 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: Okay, great? 721 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 2: Has talking about your emotion has always been something that 722 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: you found challenging not useful, Like we're on that spectrum. 723 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 2: Talk talk to me about that. What what spectrum is like? 724 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: What does that look like? 725 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: Like? Well, I think my dad's the same way because 726 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: I hear my mother yelling at him about it. But yeah, 727 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: it's very you know, I can write a nice letter, 728 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm good with that, but there's something about expressing myself 729 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: in a very honest way that it's difficult for me. 730 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: Why is it. 731 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 2: The answers within the answers with this only you kids? 732 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff in there. I'm not sure I 733 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: want to go rummaging around you. There's a whole pizza 734 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: in there. 735 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: But first, here's a quick word from the brands that 736 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: support the show. All right, thank you to our sponsors. 737 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 2: Now let's dive back in. When was the last time 738 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: you felt like you accessed that part without a letter 739 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 2: and you were able to share that part of you? 740 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: About eighty six seconds ago, there were your emotions. 741 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 2: Your emotions not about someone else, but how you feel about. 742 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: Something about someone else. Well, no, no, not. 743 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: How you feel about someone else, how you feel about 744 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: your own emotions or feeling an emotion that may be 745 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 2: uncomfortable or difficult or challenging. When was the last time 746 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: you feel? You did? 747 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: Do that with our therapist last Friday? A. It's easier 748 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: with the therapist, you know. I was listening to you 749 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: with Bert Kreischer. Yeah, you had him on your podcast. Yeah, 750 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: and he said something. He said that after after he 751 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: and his wife go to therapy, he declares a winner. 752 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 2: Do you do this anything? 753 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: No? But I like that a lot who wins, you know, 754 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody wins. Really No, I think it's 755 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: just helpful. I think it's really a good thing. I 756 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: find it very uncomfortable, but I'm never I'm never not 757 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: glad that I did it afterwards. I think it's just 758 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: a good thing to talk. I mean, maybe it's the 759 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: reason why we can talk as humans, because we're supposed to. 760 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: And I think it's good. And I think a lot 761 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: of guys don't like to go to therapy, and then 762 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: they're looking for somebody who's going to be on there, 763 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: and they're looking for a referee more than a therapist, 764 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: and that's probably not the way to go in it. 765 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: I will say from my own personal experience that I 766 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: recommend it both individually and together. And I think that 767 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: it's helped me a lot in my life to sort 768 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: things out, you know, And I think what you do 769 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: is is, you know, is very helpful for people because 770 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you know, there are a lot of 771 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 1: people here just trying to figure out who they are 772 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: and how to go about their lives and how to 773 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: be happy. And it's hard. It's hard to figure out 774 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: to be happy. I mean, there's no logical reason why 775 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: we should should be happy. It doesn't make sense. There 776 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: are so many people suffering, and there's so many sad 777 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: and bad things happening, and it feels selfish sometimes to 778 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: be happy. There's like, oh, yeah, great, things are going 779 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: great for you. But look what's you know, kids don't 780 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 1: have lunch, and I think that it takes a lot 781 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: to remember that that's not good for you and it's 782 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: not helping anybody. And if you really want to do something, 783 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: do something, don't just worry about it. And so that's 784 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: that's something that I think is important. And I also 785 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: found that, like you know, sometimes people want advice, and 786 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: sometimes I want advice, And sometimes people who are asking 787 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: you for advice don't really want to They don't want advice, 788 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,479 Speaker 1: they just want something. And I always think that when 789 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: you're really down, when you're when you're feeling low, and 790 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: when you're looking for answers, helping other people is always 791 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: a help. It always makes you feel better. So if 792 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: there's a situation where you're feeling worthless, or you're you know, 793 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: you're feeling unloved or whatever, the best thing you can 794 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: do is to help someone else, because and for yourself, 795 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: not even for them. It's it's almost a selfish thing 796 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: to do, and I think it always works. 797 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 2: I agree. I love that. I love that, Jimmy, You've 798 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 2: been amazing. Tonight. We end every on Purpose interview with 799 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 2: a final five. These questions have to be answered in 800 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: one word to one sentence maximum, So, Jimmy Kimmel, these 801 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: are your final five. The first question is what is 802 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 2: the best advice you've ever heard or received? 803 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's not be yourself. We learned that earlier. Listen, Listen, 804 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 1: that's the best advice. 805 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 2: Who did you hear that from? 806 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: I heard it from a priest, Yeah, a friend of 807 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: mine who's a priest. Yeah. I said, what do you 808 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: do when people come to you and they say, you know, 809 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: my son is dying and I don't believe in God? 810 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: He said, I just listened to them. Good advice speaking 811 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: about that. 812 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 2: You've been very open about your son's heart condition, and 813 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 2: that's been some thing that I imagine is extremely difficult. 814 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: Well not anymore because he's he's doing great, but it was, 815 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: yeah for sure. 816 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well what helped you at that time? What helps 817 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 2: you in such a difficult diet situation? 818 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: And well, number one Children's hospital here in Los Angeles 819 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: help me. And the support, the support from family and strangers. 820 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 1: And I'm a religious person. I grew up going to church, 821 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: Catholic and all those things. But and I think that 822 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: the thoughts and prayers that gets thrown around a lot 823 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: people when they say they pray for you, that's to 824 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: take a moment of your day to stop and think 825 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: about out someone else and their child. It's a it's 826 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: a small sacrifice, but it's a meaningful one. Whether you 827 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: believe in prayer or not. It's I just think it's 828 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: powerful and meaningful. And I know that's more than one sentence, 829 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: but that's that's the answer. 830 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, June, thank you so much. That was actually 831 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 2: just question number one. I just I just snuck another 832 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 2: one in there. No question on the two, what is 833 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: the worst advice you ever had or receive? 834 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't really have an answer to that. 835 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: I think that the worst thing you can do, and 836 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: I've done it, and it's something that I've learned is 837 00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: to is to lash out. You got to take a 838 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,760 Speaker 1: beat and think about what you're saying, because you'll wish 839 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 1: you had. 840 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 841 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: So sometimes there are people that you know, just want 842 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: you to bring down the hammer of four and that's 843 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: not usually the way I go. 844 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 2: I like that, all right. Question on the three, what's 845 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 2: the first thing you do in the morning and the 846 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 2: last thing you do at night? 847 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: Oh? Brush my teeth? Well, you mean besides pe I guess, uh, yeah, 848 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: you know. We have you know, we have an eight 849 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: year old and a ten year old in the house. 850 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: So he comes in, our eight year old and pounces 851 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: on us in the morning and I'd just like to 852 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: snuggle with him, and then he wants us to come 853 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: to bed with him at night and put him asleep 854 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: every night. And we know that we shouldn't do it 855 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: every night, but we just want to. We want to 856 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: get in there with him, and most of the time 857 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: we're very easy to convince. So those are the you know, 858 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 1: the best in the morning with the kids in the bed, 859 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: and then again at night with the kids in the bed. 860 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:07,479 Speaker 2: That all right? Last two questions, Question umber four. What's 861 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 2: something that you used to value that you no longer value? 862 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: My parents? No, I love my parents, you know what. 863 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: I don't drink much anymore. I used to. You know, 864 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: I was never I never like had a problem or 865 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 1: anything like that. But I've just it's less interesting to me. Now. 866 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 2: Why Why is that? 867 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: Because I'm so high all the time? We call that 868 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: California sober, I believe you. 869 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Fifth, fifth and final question. We asked 870 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 2: this to every guest who's ever been on the show. 871 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 2: If you could create one law that everyone in the 872 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 2: world had to follow, what would it be. 873 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: It's the golden rule, do unto others. That's it. That's so, 874 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. Still, that's all you If we 875 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,240 Speaker 1: all did that, we would we'd be doing great. 876 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy, You've got one special segment to wrap it 877 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 2: up for you. Okay, I want to show you something 878 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 2: behind you. If you can get the first one up, 879 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 2: take a. 880 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: Look, that's me. 881 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,240 Speaker 2: What what advice would you give to your youngest self, 882 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 2: to that self, that youngest self. 883 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: To young Jimmy Kimmel in the seventh grade? Play the 884 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: saxophone instead of the clarinet. You're never getting late? 885 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 2: I love it. Can we get a second up? Looking 886 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 2: very daffa? What does what does Jimmy Kimmel need to hear? 887 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 2: Right now? 888 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: Get away from that young boy? You mean me right, 889 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 1: both of you, and. 890 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 2: Then let's get the one courtesy of my You. 891 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: Know, honestly, I never even thought i'd own a suit, 892 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: so I'm ahead of the game right now. I think, Oh, 893 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: was that Ai Me in the future? 894 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 2: Yes? 895 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: Uh? Why is my beard the same color as it 896 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: is now? 897 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 2: You're agent? Well, you're aging? Well, what do you hope 898 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,720 Speaker 2: you'll feel about yourself at that age? 899 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: I hope I don't look like that number one. I 900 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: do hope I have that much hair. I have a 901 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 1: feeling I am going to be replaced by an Ai 902 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: me at some point in the future. I hope I 903 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: wind up like my grandfather. And by that I don't 904 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: mean dead. I mean it's just somebody that everybody thinks 905 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: of and loves. 906 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 2: Give it up for Jimmy, give everyone. Yes, Thank you 907 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 2: so much, Thanks Shay. If you love this episode, I 908 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 2: need you to listen to one of my favorite conversations ever. 909 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 2: It's with the one and only Tom Holland on how 910 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 2: to overcome your social anxiety, especially in situations where you're 911 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 2: not drinking and everyone else is. We talk about his 912 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 2: sobriety journey and so much more. He gets really personal. 913 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,919 Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to hear it. It's gonna 914 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 2: blow your mind. The quote is, if you have a 915 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 2: problem with me, text me. 916 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: And if you don't have my number, you don't know 917 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: me well enough to have a problem with me.