1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. That gentleman over 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: there is wes Hodkuwitz. We're coming to you here from 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: our studios at lambeau Field West. It's week fourteen. We 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: have plenty of Packers bears to talk about, but I 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: actually want to start this show talking about a specific 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: individual on this Green Bay Packers team, and that is 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: running back Aaron Jones, who we have found out in 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: the last couple of days is both the Packers nominee 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: for the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award as 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: well as the Art Rooney Sportsmanship Award. Now, these are 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: both awards that every team nominates one player and then 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: from those thirty two nominees, one league wide winner is 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: selected at the end of the season. The Walter Payton 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Man of the Year Award is really the big one, though, 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: um this one is con It are very prestigious. It's 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: the it's the most prestigious award that the NFL gives 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: out related to any sort of off the field endeavors 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: for players and anybody who has spoken about Aaron Jones 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: this week, whether it's Matt Lafleur, whether it's Davante Adams 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: any of his other teammates. No one can pick a 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: more deserving nominee for the Walter Payton Man of the 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: Year from the Green Bay Packers than Aaron Jones. I 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: can't say it any better than Davante Adams, so I 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: won't even try to. But DeVante's line yesterday was this 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: award was truly made for a guy like him, in 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: addition to another number of other eloquent things that Davante said. 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: I felt like that was so true, because there's been 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: some incredible Man of the Year nominees the Green Bay 30 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: Packers have had. Aaron Rodgers was a finalist in two 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: thousand fourteen. I think back to you know, j Rone Elliott, 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: you know uh Corey Lindsley, Kenny Clark. You're talking about 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: the creme de la creme of human being that have 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: walked into Bill Packers locker room. And since the day 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: that Aaron Jones got drafted, the day that they pulled 36 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: us all together, and they back in the day when 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: they used to walk in all the draft picks into 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: the locker room. The week afterwards for rookie minicamp and 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: we would talk to guys. You just got to feel 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: of what this young man is like, who he is, 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: and what he represents. I've written a number of things 42 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: on Aeron this week, mostly because we found out they 43 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: end up being this bevy awards that all got dropped 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: on us and in this timeframe. But you know, you 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: understand how difficult two thousand twenty one has been for him. 46 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: You know, he signs the contract that he's basically worked 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: his six years for a life changing deal with the 48 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: Packers that secured his family's financial future, and before he 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: can even have an opportunity to really savor that, he 50 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: loses his father, Elvin Sr. After that battle with COVID. 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: So in a those moments, and I don't know what 52 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: it's like to lose a parent. I can't even imagine 53 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: what he was going through. I think that tests your will, 54 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: it tests your your makeup and constitution as a person. 55 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: But in the Jones family's case, it's short. It's sort 56 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: of just refocused them on what their their goals were. 57 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: And Aaron talked this week about how him and his 58 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: dad when they went to the NFL Honors in two 59 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, they talked about Calias Campbell and his speech 60 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: in what that represented him getting that award, and he 61 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: felt like at that time, yeah, they were finding ways 62 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: to give back, but they wanted to create a foundation, 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: and he he made that foundation with his twin brother, 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Elvin Jr. And just seeing how this family has persevered 65 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: through everything. As much as words can say that this 66 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: guy is selfless and he is a good person. I 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: think it's in those moments of adversity that your true 68 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: character gets revealed. And in Aaron Jones case, I think 69 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: we've learned a lot about him this year. Yeah, we 70 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: absolutely have, and and it's been everything from and none 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: of this that he necessarily wants a lot of attention for. Obviously, 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: he wants attention on his foundation, the foundation with his 73 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: brother and the charitable work that they're doing. But when 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: you look at the things that have been in the media, 75 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: whether it's giving you know, the scooters to Brian Flee 76 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: Engels family because Flee went out and found the locket 77 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: in the in the grass at Um after it had 78 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: come off him on the touchdown run and Fleet was 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: out there in the middle of the night and found it, 80 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: and so Aaron Jones wanted to do something for for 81 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: Flees family. So there's that. But at the same time, 82 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: there's there is the foundation that he and his brother started. 83 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: There's the free football camp in their hometown of El Paso, 84 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: where all these kids can come for uh, you know, 85 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: to to learn football, learn some skills, have some fun, 86 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: to hang out with an NFL player, and yet they 87 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: don't have to pay anything in order to do that. 88 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a free football clinic for the community. 89 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: It was so cool hearing because I had heard that 90 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: this is the fourth year they've done it. But it 91 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: was in that press conference on Wednesday that Aaron actually 92 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: mentioned the impetus for that was going back to his 93 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: own childhood when Alvin Sr. Paid out of pocket so 94 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: him and Elvin could go to a football camp. Yeah, 95 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: where they came from, there wasn't an option for a 96 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: free football camp, not to mention having one where it's 97 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl running back like him and Jamal Williams 98 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: and all these guys with this amount of experience that 99 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: were contributing. I thought that was a really interesting little 100 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: add on to that story of of why it was 101 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: so important to have a free football camp as opposed 102 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: to just putting one on. Yeah. Absolutely. So it's all 103 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 1: these different things that that we've seen and heard about 104 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones over the course of this year, and and 105 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: obviously there's been so much more about this year, in 106 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: particular because of his father's passing. But that's not to 107 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: say that Aaron Jones is suddenly this different guy this 108 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: year because of what his family has gone through. This 109 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: is this is Aaron Jones. This is who he's always been. 110 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: It's just been that much more in the spotlight now 111 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: with him becoming a Pro Bowl running back. Um, you know, 112 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: as you said, getting the new contract and and all 113 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: of the financial security that that goes with that. All 114 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm really pulling for. And I normally don't invest a 115 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: whole lot of emotion in this because I don't know 116 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: a lot about the other thirty one guys around the league. 117 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm really pulling for Aaron Jones too, at least maybe 118 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: make the finalist stage of this like Aaron Rodgers did 119 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: seven years ago. As you said, we've seen a lot 120 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: of really really great Packers players getting nominated for this. 121 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: Corey Linsley was last year's nominee, and he's the Chargers 122 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: nominee here in one, so that that that speaks to 123 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: his work in the community as well. I'd like to 124 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: see Aaron Jones make his way through this process a 125 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: little bit and and perhaps draw that much more attention 126 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: to his efforts to his foundation and the impact that 127 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: he's making on other people. Yeah, and as you talked 128 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: about earlier, the fact that he doesn't want the attention 129 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: all shining directly on him, and Davante Adams mentioned that 130 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: his presser as well. And as much as he loves 131 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Alvin Jr. Everybody understands, you know, Aaron was the draft pick, right, 132 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: he was the game changer at you tip. I don't 133 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of people would have blamed Aaron if 134 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: he started a foundation and just wanted to be the 135 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones Foundation. He wanted to do it with his 136 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: brother though, he because from day one, quite literally, that's 137 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: been the guy right alongside him. And I thought it 138 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: was interesting he goes home on Tuesday after he gets 139 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: this award and they give him the little the little 140 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: trophy to signify that he was the Packers nominee, and 141 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, his mom's there and Virgas, you know, goes 142 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: and puts the trophy up right next to where Alvin's 143 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: ashes are at Aaron's home. And after that, Aeron's tells her, 144 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, thank you, to which she replied, well, what 145 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: what are you thanking me for? And it it shows 146 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: you kind of the humility of that family, because what 147 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: he was thinking her for was a woman that served 148 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: valiantly for her country for twenty eight years or whatever 149 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: it was you know, was away from them, was in Iraq, 150 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: all these different things, but still always wanted to bring 151 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: it back to the family, always wanted to support their family. 152 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: And I think when you look back to how difficult 153 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: this year has been, the only way you can really 154 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: get through something like this is to hold closely together. 155 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: And again, I thought that that set a lot about 156 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: not only their family connection, but the ties that bind 157 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: them that you know that for everything that's happened in 158 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty one, they're going to get through this 159 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: thing and the end of it, while not with Alvin SR, 160 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, as close as they've ever been as a family. Yeah. Absolutely, Well, 161 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: hats off to Aaron Jones for a well deserved honor 162 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: and hopefully not the last we are hearing about, uh, 163 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: this honor for him in West. Serious x M NFL 164 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute 165 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: NFL news that true football fanatics need. Seven three and 166 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: at Cousin Subs, we have something for everyone like our 167 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: Wisconsin cheese curds, mac and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, 168 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: all paired with your favorite sub or sub in a bowl. 169 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: Cousin Subs, we believe in better all right. It is 170 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: Packers Bears Sunday Night football at lambeau Field, Week fourteen. 171 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: The health situation for both teams. I don't know if 172 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: you've got a sect to call up the injury report, um, 173 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: because for both of the spots you're coming into this, 174 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: this is interesting. The Packers are coming off their bye 175 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: week and they're a little bit healthier than they have been. 176 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: And we did also see um on Wednesday, the return 177 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: to practice of Jayra Alexander, so his window to potentially 178 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: be activated to the fifty three man roster is now 179 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: open since he has returned to practice. But there are 180 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of health questions here, UM, 181 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: with this game looming on sun Day night, I think 182 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: particularly with the Bears. So can you give us an 183 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: update on where some of that well, it starts with 184 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: David Montgomery, because I just got done on two Isay's 185 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: episode talking about all this guy's treavilous for the offense. 186 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: You know, he's going to be the guy that really 187 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: stirs the drink for them. And as it turns out, 188 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: he's dealing with a shoulder growing and glute injury or 189 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: injuries coming out of that game last week against Arizona. 190 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: That's a huge thing because, as I mentioned, one of 191 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: my big qualifiers were was that when David Montgomery is 192 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: healthy and he's right, I mean this is this offense 193 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: looks different. Apparently he's not healthy right now again, so 194 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: we'll see what the week looks like. You know, a 195 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: lot of times sometimes teams just want to sit guys down, 196 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: give them a day or two to rest, and then 197 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: they'll ramp him up at the end of the week. 198 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: And Montgomery did miss the first first Packers Bears teame 199 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: this season. He was not the feature back for the Bears. 200 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: We also did hear from Matt Naggy, Bears head coach 201 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: this week announcing that Justin Fields will start. He has 202 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: been cleared from the ribbon jury and he will start 203 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: against the Packers for the second time this year, so 204 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: they're so the Packers will not be seeing Andy Dalton. Yeah, so, 205 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Juice Herbert is the guy in 206 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: the backfield when Montgomery's been down. Obviously Terrif Cohen has 207 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: been out for most of the year. But the last 208 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: point I was going to make on Montgomery is and 209 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: he may be he may be fine, we don't know yet. 210 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: But when it's three injuries, and especially two very different 211 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: parts of the body, that is a little bit of 212 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: a concern. But but looking at the overall picture, you know, 213 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: you also had some guys dealing with illnesses. Kiem Hicks 214 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: has been banged up with the ankle, you know, Marquis 215 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: Goodwe has the foot. Allen Robinson obviously returned coming off 216 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: the hamstring. So they are beat up right now. And 217 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: I think this is the difference between what you see 218 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: and just like how Green Bay's injury report was vastly 219 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: different from the Rams when the Rams were coming off 220 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: the by it's the attrition, it's the way the season goes. 221 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: But if there is an issue there with Montgomery where 222 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: he either can't go or he's limited, I think there 223 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: is a big effect that that will have as far 224 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: as the trick down domino on this offense, Yeah, and 225 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: the Packers are continuing to proceed with at this point anyway, 226 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: as of Wednesday afternoon, holding Aaron Rodgers out of practice, 227 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: continuing to let that broken pinky toe hell. But Rogers 228 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: making it clear in in the comments he made to 229 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: the media that this is not a case of even 230 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: though he's not practicing, that there's some sort of a 231 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: scale down game plan or whatever that Aaron Rodgers wants 232 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: the you know, the full gamut of everything. Hey, you know, Matt, 233 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: whatever you want to dial up. Hey, let's talk about it. 234 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: Let's figure out what we like and and and let's 235 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: go with it. This is not about even though he's 236 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: restricted in terms of his practice, reps and his availability 237 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: at practice, he doesn't go into the games feeling restricted. 238 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna leave it all out there, both 239 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: in terms of in terms of the schematics and his play. 240 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: As we've seen, he's not afraid to take off and run, 241 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: even with even with that toe bothering him. So we'll 242 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: see now week to week. Rogers did say getting the 243 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: entire getting an entire week off was extremely helpful for 244 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: his toe. Um, he does hope that it's going to 245 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: continue to get better and that maybe, just maybe he 246 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: will start getting back into a regular practice routine at something. 247 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: But what this all reminded me of was, I don't know, 248 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: if you've ever been in a position you've had to 249 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: throw the donut on your car because you're tired, you know, 250 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: blew out. That's the way this kind of feels with 251 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: Roger's in the toe, Like they have the tiger ordered. 252 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: They know that it's gonna be there. You just got 253 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: to hope that you that the doughnuts stays, you know, 254 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: intact here, and you can just get to the finish line. 255 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: Because as Rogers said, I mean, the problem with the 256 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: surgery option is that he mobilizes the toe. They basically 257 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: throw a pin in there, and then it's he's not 258 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: gonna be able to move that toe the rest of 259 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: the year. It would reduce the chances of it getting 260 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: any further fractured. But then there's the mobility side of it, right. 261 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: His hope is and Doc mackenzie and everybody else just say, 262 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: do Bob Anderson, everybody that has looked at this thing, 263 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: Their hope is that, Okay, well, if you can just 264 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: keep it healthy, maybe not get stepped on anymore. Yeah, 265 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: that would be good, not to get stepped on, like 266 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: he has a couple of times already. But this thing 267 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: can heal up a little bit. But it's just the 268 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: challenge of it. And as Rogers I think told Pat McAfee, 269 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: if if he gets through this weekend healthy, you know, 270 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: maybe next week is where it could potentially start to 271 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: to really start to feel the way he needs it 272 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: to feel. Yeah. Well, as we had talked about on 273 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: our last show, the Packers potentially could be taking the 274 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: field on Sunday Night with a chance to clinch the 275 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: NFC North if the Vikings lose to the Pittsburgh Steelers 276 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football. There is also a scenario if 277 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: the Vikings do win and stay alive in the division race. 278 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: There is also a scenario where the Packers can clinch 279 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: a playoff spot if both the Saints and the forty 280 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: Niners were to lose prior to the Packers taking the 281 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: field Sunday night. But all that being said, I want 282 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: to get to the keys to victory here. This is 283 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: a Packers Bears game. It's a big it's a big 284 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: rivalry game. Aaron Rodgers throughout the whole I own you 285 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: thing it's Soldier Field, which he said was directed at 286 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: the fans. But you know how things can get taken 287 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: in different ways. What do you think is the most 288 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: important thing, what's at the top of your list for 289 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: the Packers to win this game? Sunday night. I let 290 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: Insider in box on Thursday. You had to edit it 291 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: with the statement that I don't care if it's Justin Fields. 292 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Andy Dalton, I don't care 293 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: if it's Jim Miller, Shane Matthews, Shane Falco, whoever. The 294 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: Packers need to turn over the football defensively, and they 295 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: need to stop the run. If David Montgomery is not 296 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: playing in this probably gets a little bit easier. Although 297 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: Juice Herbert had some decent games himself. I think really 298 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: it comes down to if if it is Justin Fields, 299 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: to basically have that same game plan with some modifications 300 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: of what they did earlier this season, you have to 301 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: be able to limit him, you know, and make sure 302 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't scramble, make sure all that stuff, but just 303 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: finding ways to keep the pressure on enforce him into 304 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: a few errors. I think if you achieve that you 305 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: keep this game in third and manageible. This game plays 306 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: out the way it needs to play out if a 307 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: third distance, If it gets to be third and manageable, 308 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: that's where it starts to get more interesting than it 309 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: probably needs to be. I feel like if Green Bay 310 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: stops the run, forces them into third and longs, those 311 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: opportunities are going to be there to take the ball 312 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: away and really control the tempo of this game. Yeah. 313 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: And for me, quite honestly, West, the whole key for 314 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: me in this game is for the Packers just to 315 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: not turn the football over on offense. While certainly some 316 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: turnovers on defense could could go a long way here, 317 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: to me, this isn't a game the Packers necessarily have 318 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: to win the turnover battle, but you just can't lose it. 319 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: And if you don't turn the ball over on offense, 320 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: you won't lose the turnover battle, right. I know. I 321 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: spoke on our last show and we were talking about 322 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: the Vikings, and I brought up, you know, these two 323 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: games for the Vikings, the types that you just can't lose. 324 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: When they lost to the Cowboys and they lost this 325 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: past week to the Lions, I know this is Packers Bears. 326 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: I know it's a big rivalry, but with where the 327 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: Bears are in their season, there injury report, with where 328 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: the Packers are in their season, and what's at stake, 329 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: and the fact that this is at home, under the 330 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: lights at Lambeau Field, this is one of those, quite frankly, 331 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: that qualifies for me as a game if you're the 332 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, you can't lose this game. Now, I'm 333 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: not saying the Packers are gonna win by thirty. SPA thinks, 334 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, this is just something that's not what I'm saying. 335 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: But I'm saying this is a game that if you're 336 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: the Packers, you can't lose it. And I don't care 337 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: if you win it by three or win it by thirty. 338 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: You just can't lose it. And to me, the quickest 339 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: path to losing this game and to giving the Bears 340 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: the shot at the upset is if you're turning the 341 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: ball over on offense. If the Packers don't do that, 342 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: I think they win this football. I agree, And just 343 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: come out and control the tempo, you know, whether you 344 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: win the opening coin toss or not. If if if 345 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: it's the Bears taking the field first, defensively shutting them down. 346 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: If it's Green Bay, find a way to get those 347 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: ten place seventy five yard drives and get into the 348 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: end zone. This is such a great opportunity, Mike. And 349 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: we've we've expelled so much breath here, uh, the last 350 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: few weeks talking about the late by finishing three or 351 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: five at home, the amount of division games they have, 352 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: with where everything stands in the North right now, the 353 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: two game magic number, all that stuff. As Davante Adam said, 354 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: there's an element of run the table to this. Now. 355 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: They're not running the table like two thousand sixteen where 356 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: it was to make sure you at least make the playoffs. 357 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: But they have a realistic shot at this number one seed. 358 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: And if you look at the way Arizona schedule lays out, 359 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: it's a little daunting for the Cardinals. So you have 360 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: to take advantage of that. And it starts on Sunday 361 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: against the Bears. Yeah. And I want to talk about 362 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: some of those other games on the slate this weekend 363 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: in the NFL that that will impact the Packers. But 364 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: I do want to throw out another plug for Cliff 365 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: Crystal's history book. Packers fans, if you are looking for 366 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: holiday gift ideas. Team historian Cliff crystals book The Greatest 367 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: Story in Sports is now available at the Packers Pro Shop. 368 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: The four volume of hardcover books set tells the true 369 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: complete story of the Packers first century, from humble beginnings 370 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: to heartbreaks and triumphs. Buy your copy online or in 371 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: store today. I gave I gave Cliffs so much well 372 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: to do credit for everything on Tuesday's episode. Forgot to 373 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: mention Aaron Popke, Katie Hermson, Tom Fanning, everybody else that 374 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: was involved in this. The publisher of the book don't 375 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: can't remember what the name of the publishers right now, 376 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: but they did a fantastic job with it. And I've 377 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: already gotten multiple requests from family members to get this 378 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: signed by Cliff Crystal, to get his John Hancock on 379 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: that book. They want to have that forever and uh 380 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: And actually, for those who are in the area or 381 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: are coming to the game, Cliff is doing a book 382 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: signing at the Packers Pro Shop on Saturday afternoon this weekend, 383 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: So for a couple of hours in the afternoon, stop 384 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: by and get a copy of the book and get 385 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: it signed by the author. Just books, though no babies. No, no, 386 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: no babies, no memorabilia. I think it's just just just 387 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: for the just for the book. Um. Other games to 388 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. Already mentioned the Steelers Vikings game 389 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football and the implications that will have 390 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: as far as the NFC North race. But other ones 391 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: to watch your west are really interesting, I think, really 392 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: interesting game in the NFC East, Dallas is at Washington. 393 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: Washington is coming on strong. The Cowboys obviously still leading 394 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: that division. I believe they have a two game lead 395 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: in the division. Yeah, two game lead, two game lead 396 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: over Washington. So Washington looking to cut that deficit in 397 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: the NFC East to one game. Another one to watch 398 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: it will be on I believe it's essentially the National 399 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: late afternoon game prior to the Packers Bears in primetime. 400 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo is at Tampa Bay. The Bills coming off of 401 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: the short week, the tough loss to division rival New 402 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: England when the Patriots just ran and ran and ran 403 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: the ball in the bad weather. But Tampa Bay a 404 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: nine and three team looking to stay with just the 405 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: three losses as both the Packers and the Buccaneers trying 406 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: to keep the pressure on the Cardinals and then Monday 407 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: Night football in the NFC West, you have the Rams 408 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: are at Arizona. Now, the Cardinals won the first matchup 409 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 1: between these two teams in Los Angeles, so this is 410 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: the rematch. It's in Arizona Monday Night football. Obviously, Packers 411 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: fans will be looking to see if the Arizona Cardinals 412 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: take a third loss. They are the team sitting in 413 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: the catbird see right now at ten and two, Arizona 414 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: is gonna take a third loss. So the Rams are 415 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: gonna take a fifth loss kind of out of nowhere 416 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: with the way that their season is headed. So yeah, 417 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: we know we've talked about, said Nawzy. In the NFC West, 418 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: there's it's gonna be right down to the wire. There's 419 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: a lot of competition there, not only for the division title, 420 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: not only for the conference uh you know, being able 421 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: to get a buy or anything like that. There's also 422 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: a factive number of these teams are trying to make 423 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: the postseason. The game I am most infatuated with, though, 424 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: is that Dallas Washington matchup, because Washington they hung their 425 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: hat on their defense a lot last year. Well, you 426 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: don't have Chase Young now, Monte Sweat is gonna miss 427 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: at least two games. That that big, bad offense, defensive 428 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: front we were talking about with all those first rounders, 429 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: it's been chipped into a little bit and Dallas, you know, 430 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: it looks like Tony Pollard now dealing with a foot injury. 431 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott has been up and down, but he may 432 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: be the guy that has to go. He was a 433 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: full participant in practice on Wednesday. That they got to 434 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: get Zeke going again. That's gonna be the big key 435 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: for them down the stretch. Can they do it against 436 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: a really formidable Washington defense that is also kind of 437 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: struggling a little bit on the injury front. Buffalo has 438 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: got to get a win. They just gotta do it. 439 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: They're trending in the wrong direction right now. Yes, I know, 440 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: Monday Night was a weird, weird game and anomaly something 441 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: game you're only gonna play on once every ten years, 442 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: but it was. It was a costly loss for them 443 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: against their division rival against New England when they had 444 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: him at home. Those are the types of games that 445 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: that are that are tough, and we talked about the 446 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: Packers building a cushion so that as disappointing as that 447 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: game was against Minnesota. They had some leeway there to 448 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: make a mistake. Buffalo is they've lost too many of 449 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: those games. They don't have that right. And as you 450 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: mentioned with regard with regard to the Cardinals, they do 451 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: have a pretty tough schedule here down the stretch because 452 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: they also have a him against the Cowboys. And I'm 453 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: trying to remember that they have an Indianapolis. Yes, they 454 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: have the Colts. It was a cross conference. Yeah, Indianapolis 455 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: besides that loss to Tampa Bay has won like five 456 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: or six and they found out that they have Jonathan Taylor. 457 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: It's not just West that doesn't know that Jonathan Taylor 458 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: is a good running back. The Indianapolis Colts are starting 459 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: to figure it out too. Yeah. No, that so the Cardinals. 460 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: The Cardinals definitely have a tough schedule. To me, the 461 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: opposite is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, because if the Buccaneers 462 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: don't take a fourth loss against the Buffalo Bills this week, 463 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: I think that is going to be the signal to 464 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: the Packers that you have to run the table to 465 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: have a shot at the one seed. Because based on 466 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers schedule, I believe it's two games against the Panthers, 467 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: one against the Saints, and one against the Jets. I 468 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: don't see the Buccaneers losing any games in those last four. 469 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: So this one against Buffalo, if the Buccaneers are going 470 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: to take a fourth loss and give the Packers a 471 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: little bit of leeway if you want to look at 472 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: it that way, which is, you know, dicey, But if 473 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers are going to take a fourth loss, it's 474 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 1: going to be here. And if they beat Buffalo, I 475 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: think the Buccaneers are running, which means the Packers have 476 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: to run the table and at least stay even with 477 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers because the tiebreaker between those two would be 478 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 1: conference record, and the Packers have the edge there because 479 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: one of Green Bay's losses was to Kansas City in 480 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 1: the a f C. Just throwing that out there if 481 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: you've been following all this. Yeah, absolutely. And that's the 482 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: thing that kind of stinks about this whole deal too, 483 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: is that, like you sort of forget that the cross conference, 484 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: interconference battle for green Bay this year was the a 485 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: f C North because of the game against Kansas City 486 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: and these different things that have happened. Now, so Packers 487 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: still got two good games coming up against a decent 488 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: you know, Brown's team in a Baltimore team that I 489 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: think has shown that they can play with anybody. So 490 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: you can't let up. You have to take care of 491 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: business the division. You have to take care of business 492 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: and the other the other North Division as well. And 493 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: and hope that maybe you know Tampa Bay slipped up 494 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: once against New Orleans, could they potentially do it again 495 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: to in addition to whatever happens again it's the Bills. Yeah, 496 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: all right, Well with that, we will call it a 497 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: wrap on this edition of Packers on Script and you 498 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: should have follow all of our coverage of the team, 499 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: all of the coverage of Sunday's big Packers Bears game 500 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: from lambeau Field. Will have it all for you on 501 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: Packers dot com for Wes, I am Mike. Thank you 502 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: for tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time.