1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: And with the second overall pick, you take the best 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: podcast available, because somehow it fell and didn't go number one. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: It was there at number two for you to select. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Happy for Sall big missed by somebody. Yeah, it is 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: a big miss Gibby. Welcome to the best damn podcast available. 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: That is Jason Gibbs. My name is Andrew Ciciliado. We're 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: here in the home office today trying to make sense 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: of Gibbie. I think this is kind of the quiet week, 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: if you will, after free agency. We have some pro days. 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: UCLA Pro Day was here in LA on Monday. The 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Big twelve Pro Day, like a combined everybody thing is 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: at the Cowboys facility starting today. But this is kind 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: of a take stock of what happened in free agency 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: and see where we are kind of period. 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's definitely the first two waves of 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: free agency, or in the book. I mean, I think 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: you have your primary wave, which is your during your 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: tampering phase. Not calling it legal tampering, We're just campering. 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: There is illegal tampering in the days before the legal obrogation. 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get your I'm trying to get your 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: verbiage down. My friends, So before before the four o'clock 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: deadline on a Wednesday, that officially kicks everything off. You know, 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: those your A listers in free agency, and then you've 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: got your second wave, maybe even a third wave, and 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: now we're just kind of waiting to see where the 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: other chips are going to fall. Obviously we'll get to 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: the quarterback carousel here in just a little bit, but 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: I think you're trying to you're resetting your boards. Where 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: are you at on the draft five weeks out, knowing 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: now that you've got certain players plugged into certain positions, 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: and I would assume now you're also going to start 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: resuming those thirty visits. You know, we had we had 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: a number of quarterbacks that were in and a few 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: other guys at Duel Carter in the building as well 35 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: with Travis Hunter, and now I think, you know, for 36 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: about ten days there wasn't any visits, and now I 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: think we're back to the visits. 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: And it's not just the thirty visits where the Browns 39 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: or any team for that matter, can get up close 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: and meet these. 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: Players during these pro days. Very often. 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: For example, my colleague Tom Pelisero reported and as we 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: record this on Wednesday afternoon, the Steelers had dinner with 44 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe in Alabama ahead of the Crimson Tide. Prode 45 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: Georgia was last week for example as well. And that look, 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: that's FaceTime for the team picking twenty one overall with 47 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: the former Alabama quarterback coach by the Browns OC Tommy Reese. 48 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: So there's all these little little opportunities for teams to 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: meet with players and to get to know them. And 50 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: also in this period as well, you see a lot 51 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: of like you said, first and second wave, you see 52 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: a lot of one year deals, like for example, McCole 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Hardman just signed a one year deal with the Packers. 54 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: With the cap going up and up and up, this 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: value bin, if you will, of free agency, guys are 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: getting one year deals. Now, there is still a chance 57 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: the Browns can go back into said bin and get 58 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: a guy like Maurice Hurst, for example, Jed Wills, as 59 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: we record, this is still out there. Don't know a 60 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: his health be his free agent future, but is that 61 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: a possibility. Wan Thornhill left the Browns. He has now 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: gone to the Steelers, rocking a terrible twel and Renegade, 63 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: by the way, most overrated song of all time, Like 64 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't get it on his socials Jan Thornhill gets 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 1: a one year deal. 66 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: Here, you're making a face. 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: It's the closest thing that you have to like a 68 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: college event. It pains me because it has come at 69 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: my expense since I've never won there in twelve seasons. 70 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: I was not there for the. 71 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: Playoffs or not there for the playoff game in twenty 72 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: so me personally, I am over in that stadium and 73 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: I cleaned that up as I did that, you know, 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: but it is kind of a it's a cool thing 75 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: that I hate because I know it means nothing but 76 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: trouble for us as a free time. 77 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: Let's move on. 78 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the quarterbacks here because the Steelers are 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: actually give me part of this conversation. And before we 80 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: get to our guest, Joe Tryon Shoyanka will join us shortly. 81 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the indecision, or rather the big question 82 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: mark for the Browns, the Steelers as we record this, 83 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: the Vikings and the Giants as well at quarterback. And 84 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: let's go back to our interview from last week, and 85 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: that's Miles Garrett. 86 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: The setup is this. 87 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: He did the podium on Friday spoke to the media, 88 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: and then after doing the podium, came around a corner 89 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: and sat down to the room in which you now 90 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: sit and did this show, did the best podcast available? 91 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: And I asked Miles about the team's quarterback plans because 92 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: seemingly when he was on the podium, and I don't 93 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: know if you agree, Gibby, he seemed to be dropping 94 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: some hints that something might be brewing. Did you get 95 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: that or did I did? I am imagine that because 96 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: I want it to happen. 97 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: Well, something's happened, because Miles is back. 98 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: He's back. But I meant, like a big picture quarterback wise, Yeah. 99 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: I would assume there have been some conversations that leads 100 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: him to think that maybe there's something on the horizon. 101 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's what I got, And so I kind 102 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: of pressed him on it. And this was the interaction 103 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: in all serious is do you know who the quarterback 104 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: is going to be? I mean, do you have an idea? 105 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: After conversations? I do have an idea. 106 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: Okay, do you like the idea? 107 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 5: I like it enough to to uh be here smiling 108 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 5: in front of you, because I think we have a 109 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 5: good chance of that happening. And making the most out 110 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 5: of it. 111 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: Can you tell us who it is Miles? 112 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: You know I can't do that. 113 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: I've been asked multiple times did I continue that conversation 114 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: with Miles off the air, And the answer is no, 115 00:05:59,320 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: I did not. 116 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: We were on a zoom. There are other people in 117 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: the room there. 118 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: I believe the door might have even been open out 119 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: to the hallway. 120 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: It was not one of those Hey, I'm very well 121 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: leading now. You could tell you who who are taking 122 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: what we're doing now right? No one's listening to this. 123 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: It wasn't one of those. I did not have the 124 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: advantage of being there in the room with him, so 125 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: I did not follow up. I could not. 126 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: I don't have any more insight, but Gibby what blows 127 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: me away? 128 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 4: Here? 129 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: And Good Morning Football has run this, and ESPN has 130 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: run this. What blows me away is the number of answers, 131 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: and you could see it on social as well, in 132 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: the comments beneath the posts of what other people think 133 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: he's referring to. I have heard it means the Browns 134 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: are signing Russell Wilson. I have heard it means the 135 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: Browns are signing Joe Flacco. I have heard it means 136 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: the Browns are resigning Jamis. I have heard it means 137 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: the Browns are gonna sign Aaron Rodgers, which I highlight, 138 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: which I do not expect. I have seen it means 139 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: they're taking camp Ward. I've seen Shador Sanders, I've seen 140 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: Will Howard. I have also seen the Browns are trading 141 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray all of and I've seen that one 142 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: like five times in my comments. I want you to know, 143 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I also don't think that Kyler went 144 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: is gonna happen in any way, shape or form. But 145 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: it blows me away, just like the wide scope of 146 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: responses people thinking they know what Miles seems to suggest 147 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: he knows. 148 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, you you didn't even mention a guy like 149 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: Carson Wentz. You know, there's some other names out there. 150 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: I saw. 151 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: I saw something today on a free agent quarterback tracker 152 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: that had Teddy Bridgewater as a candidate to be at 153 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: like a QB three. So I mean it's I think 154 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: there's a lot out there. I think there's a lot 155 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: of options. I think the Browns feel like they're in 156 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: a good place, and I know they have one quarterback 157 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: in their room currently and obviously you know, Deshaun continues 158 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: his rehab. But I think they're evaluating everything right now. 159 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: I think they're waiting to see what might happen with 160 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers domino. Not for them per se, but 161 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: how it affects maybe some of their other options. Sure, 162 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: you just keep hearing that the Browns are going to 163 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: sign another quarterback, but it has to be at their price. 164 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: And we forgot Kirk Cousins in that list as well, 165 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: and Cousins that there's the development over the weekend, and 166 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: Miles said what he said. He had the conversation here 167 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: on BPA the day before the Falcons made their decision, 168 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: which let me explain, was not in any way a 169 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: surprise to hold on to Kirk Cousins, and everyone had 170 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: this past weekend as this trigger day. Well, they got 171 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: to cut him because they don't want to pay him 172 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: ten million until you actually read the fine print on 173 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: the contract, and that ten million includes a twenty twenty 174 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: six offset, so really not They didn't have to write 175 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: him a check over the weekend. Yes, there is an 176 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: extra ten million tacked onto his guarantee, running it all 177 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: the way up to a full one hundred million over 178 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: two plus years, but there is an offset, and the 179 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Falcons are holding on to him because they want something 180 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: in return. And there now it becomes a dance between 181 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: whether it's the Browns or anyone in the compensation game. 182 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: It's hey, we'll give you a seven and you pay 183 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: all of it, or we'll give you a five and 184 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: we'll chip in a couple of bucks. How much will 185 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: you chip in? Saw a story yesterday? They want a three? 186 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: You know you can go back and put this in 187 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: freezing cold takes if you want to later, Gibbie, I 188 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: cannot see anyone giving up a three for Kirk Cousins, 189 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: can you. 190 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: No, absolutely not, and having to pay some of the cash. No, 191 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: will not gonna happen. You made that, Atlanta, You deal 192 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: with that. If you want to unload him, then we're 193 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: interested in having a conversation. 194 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: But if the Falcons want to pay all twenty seven millions, 195 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: somebody may give them a three. But sure that trade 196 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't happen at that compensation. Until we get to training 197 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: camp and somebody gets hurt somewhere else and a team 198 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: is truly desperate, or here's a scenario, a team is 199 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: in desperate need of a quarterback, let's say the Giants 200 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: and we go through the draft and the way the 201 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: board falls, they don't get a guy they want, okay, 202 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: and then post draft that's their only option, right. I 203 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: think personally here the Giants are desperate. I think the 204 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: Browns are urgent. Two different things. Browns are urgent, the 205 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: Giants are desperate. 206 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 207 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: Might somebody pay the price for Kirk Cousins later, yeah, 208 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: but not now. I don't think until then the Falcons 209 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: hang on to him. 210 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah. 211 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: And again I think those organizations doing their due diligence. 212 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: They have all these meetings, they they're working out well, 213 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: they're not working out guys, but they're going to pro days. 214 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: They're talking through things they have, they're working on a plan, 215 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: and they're working on a plan that has been put 216 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: in place, and we'll just kind of see how it goes. Again, 217 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: let's not forget that. Andrew Berry, when it comes to 218 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: making trades, is pretty darn. 219 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 4: Good at this. 220 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: Yes, so absolutely, And. 221 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: Sometimes we've seen trades happen. The Zadaria smith happened on 222 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: a Friday in late May, so you know, I mean 223 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: the Genavian Clowney, you know, acquisition happened. Well, into the 224 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,119 Speaker 2: off season almost to the point where it was mandatory 225 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: mini camp time. 226 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: The Amari Cooper and the Elijah Ward trades kind of 227 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: sort of came out of nowhere. 228 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that the organizations doing whatever they 229 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: have to do. We've we've been preaching this on the 230 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: on best podcast available. 231 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 4: There's a lot of time. 232 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: There's a lot to happen between now and when we 233 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: get together for training camp. 234 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: And as we sit here and take this. On Wednesday morning, 235 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: I mentioned Tom Pelasero. He reports that the vikings are 236 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: out on Aaron Rodgers, who did appear at a charity 237 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: flag football game over the weekend here in southern California. 238 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: He did not speak to the media. 239 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: His name is not on the event, but his organization 240 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: is the one that puts it on one of you know, 241 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: he has a hand at least in the organization. All 242 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks were here, Josh Allen and Daniel Jones 243 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: and Joe Flacco, long long list of quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers 244 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: and Bryce Young. Aaron did not speak, as far as 245 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: I can tell, to the media without the vikings in it. 246 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: If he wants to play, it's now to the Steelers 247 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: and the Giants. You know, I would pick, if I 248 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: were him, the Steelers over the Giants. I would prefer 249 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: to see him with the Giants. However, from our Brown 250 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: selfish perspective, because a I think that would take the 251 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: Giants out of the quarterback business at three, and that 252 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: chain is the top of the draft, because I think 253 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: if you're the Giants and you go get Aaron Rodgers 254 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: right now, and again, if I'm him, I wouldn't want. 255 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: To do that one. But if he does go there, 256 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 3: you have to be all in. 257 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: I mean, they're not going to pull a Cousins or 258 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: they're not gonna pull a Jordan love thing he or 259 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: a Penix or Jordan Love to me. You go, maybe 260 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: we take Travis Hunter, put him with Malik Neighbors and Aaron. 261 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: We're all in in twenty twenty five. As I said, 262 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: they're they're kind of desperate. If he goes to the Steelers, however, 263 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: it makes our two games interesting and I think it 264 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: makes the jockeying potentially between the Browns and the Giants 265 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: at the top of the draft that much more interesting 266 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: as well. 267 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely, again, we got we got what five weeks to 268 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: the draft, five weeks siege, Yeah, maybe five. 269 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: Weeks, five weeks from this week, actually five weeks from 270 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: right now. The players that will go to Green Bay. 271 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: Last year there were thirteen players that went. Uh five 272 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: weeks from right now. Those players will be maybe even 273 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: at this minute, at a Place sixty event in Green 274 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: Bay with local kids. The commissioners usually there and that 275 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: is their first time with the media in the draft city. 276 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: Five weeks from to date. We don't know that list. 277 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: The list normally, it doesn't come out until about two 278 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: weeks before the draft. Shod Or Sanders has intimated that 279 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: he probably won't go. They might do their own thing. 280 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: Don't know about cam Ward or Travis Hunter or any 281 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: of the other guys. 282 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: You should go. 283 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: You get to taste the nectar of the greatest beer 284 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: maybe in the United States, which is the Spotted Kyle. 285 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like Spotted Cowclaris Brew. 286 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: Wisconsin. 287 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: We want to get to JTS in a second, real quick. 288 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: Other news around the division, most notably the Bengals on 289 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: Sunday night did the deal. They got Jamar Chase and 290 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: t Higgins wrapped up for big money. You're shaking your 291 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: head there. I am stunned. I'm not stunned. They signed 292 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: to both back. I really thought they were going to 293 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: make Tea Higgins play on the tag because that is 294 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: kind of sort of the Bengal way. 295 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: But they didn't. 296 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: They got a deal done and I've yet to see 297 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: and I am mildly skeptical, mildly, but I've heard from 298 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: reasonably good sources that yes, they did guarantee two years 299 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: of salary for t Higgins, which is something the Bengals 300 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: simply do not do. They did it for Joe Burrow. 301 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: I think they might have done it for Orlando Brown, 302 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: but they don't do it. They did it here allegedly. 303 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: On a personal level. I like both of them. I've 304 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: interviewed them both, especially love Jamar are awesome, dude. It's 305 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: good for them. And now Gibbe, we have to see 306 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: what they do with Trey Hendrickson. 307 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and boy, your front office and your coaching staff 308 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati better'd be really good at evaluating talent coming 309 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: out in the draft and more importantly, developing talent, because 310 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how you're going to pay a lot 311 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: of other people on that roster. 312 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: Well, think about it. 313 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: If you bring back Hendrickson and there's no way he's 314 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: going to get Miles money. He's not going to get 315 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: I'd be stunned if he got Max Crosby money. 316 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: He is older than both. He's also performed really well. 317 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: Nobody cumulatively in the last two years has more sacks 318 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL than Trey Hendrickson. 319 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: So he's done the numbers right. He has put them up. 320 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: Do people think he's an as sending player when his 321 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: age begins with a three? Do they think he's that 322 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: elite guy where if you drop him on another team, 323 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: he automatically changes their defense into an elite unit. I 324 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I know I'd wont him on my team. 325 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: He's good, he's really good. But what do you pay him? 326 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: And now that you've had he's gone out there and 327 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: looked for a trade, the trade hasn't happened, Like no 328 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: one's given up a one forum. You bring him back, 329 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: But do you just give another one year band aid 330 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: on that contract? And let's say you do have him 331 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: back and everyone's happy, you also need ten other pieces 332 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: on that defense. And given how the defense played for 333 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: them last year, twenty five points a game. You can 334 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: score a lot of points, but if you're giving up more, 335 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: then you missed the playoffs. Yeah, they repeatedly scored thirty 336 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: points a game and lost. On that note, because I'm 337 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: rambling and because I've teased it, we need to get 338 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: to our guest. He's going to be playing opposite Miles Garrett, 339 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: the Brown's newest defensive end, Joe Tryon shoy Yanka. Welcome 340 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: to Cleveland. Welcome to the bar, tank. 341 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 4: Man, thanks for having me. 342 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 5: I'm super excited to be here, super blessed to be welcome, 343 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 5: and I'm super excited to be in Cleveland. 344 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 3: All right, you signed the contract today. I'm sure your 345 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 3: post with a photo and all that it's like. 346 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 4: About it, line all the autooed line smiles. 347 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: First time you're a free agent, first time you've had 348 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: to go through this. What was this process like and 349 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: what was that moment like to sign that contract? 350 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 5: It was interesting because I knew coming from from what 351 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 5: I what I played, and I knew I could play 352 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 5: in a bunch of different schemes. But the Browns, they 353 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 5: had a great scheme where where you're able to attack. 354 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 5: They have a great, great identity up front. It's where 355 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 5: the D line moves the defense and everything runs from 356 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 5: the D line. So I'm ready to join the defense 357 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 5: that just let you pin your ears back and just 358 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 5: just hunt and just hit things. So I'm super excited. 359 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 5: And it was, it was, it was. It was confusing, 360 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 5: but it wasn't really Once I once I heard the 361 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 5: philosophy of the Browns, you know, free agency, you know, 362 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 5: once I heard their offer through through their defense, I knew, 363 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 5: I knew I needed to be. 364 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: There all right. 365 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: And I feel I'm going to assume kind of what 366 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: you're getting at there that to plan a four to three, 367 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: like to put your hand down again consistently. I see 368 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: you nodding like that has to be and we're not 369 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: like saying bad things about the. 370 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: Bucks, but that has to be a breath of fresh 371 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: air for you. 372 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: Man. 373 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 5: It's just it's exciting because you're able to go fast 374 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 5: and hit something and not think about anything, and while 375 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 5: you're doing it, and you can do it at consistently, 376 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 5: play after play after play, and then you just, man, 377 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 5: you feel good doing that. And then you're hunting out there, 378 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 5: and I'm super excited. 379 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: You more comfortable in a four to three. 380 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 5: I'm just ready. I'm ready to just to hunt. I've 381 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 5: never played in the true fourth three. I came from 382 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 5: three to four college. So so this is gonna be 383 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 5: a good to tell. I'm excited to just let loose. 384 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 4: All right. 385 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: So here's the thing. How do you get more sacks? Joe, 386 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: And I know that's like always kind of the thing. 387 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: It's like, get in the backfield is one thing. Hey, 388 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: pressure is legit. I mean, like it's not just about 389 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: sacking the quarterback, it's about pressuring the quarterback. Is playing 390 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: opposite Miles Garrett. One of the reasons you were excited 391 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: when the Browns called. 392 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 5: Man, that's a that's a that's a bookend right there. 393 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 5: One of the best players in the NFL periods. So 394 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 5: just being able to suit up and play it, play 395 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 5: against play play with him, line up against him, with 396 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 5: him on the line, it's just gonna be something in 397 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 5: saying I cannot wait for the opportunity and just ready 398 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: to just take it all in and learn and then 399 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 5: just learn while playing super fast. 400 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 3: You got to meet him today, right, m h how'd 401 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: that go? 402 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: It was a It was a great, great opportunity. 403 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 5: You know, got his number, got his contact, super you know, 404 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 5: super amazing human. 405 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: The there are parallels here, like guys that were first 406 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: round picks els where they get a second shot, and 407 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: then they go somewhere and they can play next to 408 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: a Miles Garrett. I'm thinking Leonard Floyd right with the Bears. 409 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: After four years he ends up with the Rams. He 410 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: plays alongside Aaron Donald and then bam, you see that explosion. 411 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 3: Is that something we're gonna see? 412 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: That's the plan? 413 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: What about the number Grant delpis wearing nine? Joe, what 414 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: are we wearing? 415 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 5: Give me a ninety ninety four at ninety six. I'll 416 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: be cool with anything in the nineties. I'm not really tripping, 417 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 5: all right? 418 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 1: What about playing to the AFC noor. If you've sacked Lamar, 419 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: you've sacked Joe Burrow? How do you feel about that? 420 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: Man? 421 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 5: This is this is the conference you want to plan 422 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 5: when you when you turn your TV on. These are 423 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 5: the games you see, you know that stand out, the 424 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 5: snow games, those Thursday night games that just look, you 425 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 5: got everything blowing, you know, every distraction why you shouldn't 426 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 5: beat her, but you you there, the fans are there 427 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 5: that they hyped up. They want to beat her with you, 428 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 5: and I want to beat her for the fans. So 429 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 5: I'm excited for those. 430 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: Type of Joe You're saying you don't want to play 431 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: in the snow? Is that what you're saying? 432 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I love. 433 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 5: I played in the snow once, man, we played in 434 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 5: college against Washington State, and I you know, I had 435 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 5: had a great time sliding around in the snow celebrating. 436 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: So I'm excited for that. 437 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: All right, So the Apple Cup in the snow, and 438 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: then last year we had we had the Steelers game 439 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: of the snow. 440 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 3: Were you watching that Thursday night? 441 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 5: I was tapped in. I was tapped in from my 442 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 5: my Tampa Bay condo. 443 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: It's a lot warmer in your Tampa Bay condo than 444 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: it actually is down on the field. 445 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: You realize that, I hope, so good, good, good. 446 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: Let's talk about off the field, Joe, because you did 447 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: a lot of work in Florida, off the field, in 448 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: the community in Tampa to help single mothers, right because 449 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: you were raised by a single mother, your mom, Andrea 450 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: did such a great job with you and your sister Julia, 451 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: who's now just finishing med school and going into a 452 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: residency in New York. How important is that to give 453 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: back to the community and how much of that is 454 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: going to be your life now in Northeast Ohio. 455 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 5: Super important without single moms. You know, the world don't run. 456 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 5: There's super there's superheroes. 457 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 4: You know. 458 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 5: That's that's my my description for any single parent out 459 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 5: there and your superhero for for your child, for your family, 460 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 5: because you know what takes, you know, a village. You 461 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 5: know you're doing that by yourself, and we recognize firsthand. 462 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 5: I recognized that the struggles in I know how blessed 463 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: I am to be able to be in this position 464 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 5: that you can give back. So I'm definitely going to 465 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 5: be in the in the community in Ohio and a 466 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 5: super super looking forward to be in this. 467 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: See a lot of pictures as well. 468 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: Talk to people who are there for some of the 469 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: events you went to, and they all talked about like 470 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: the smiles, not only your smiles, but like the smiles 471 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: from the kids, Like it does really hit you where 472 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: you can see the impact you have. 473 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just it really can't even put of, uh 474 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 5: put a value on it is invaluable. And you know, 475 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 5: I just can't wait to help out those that just 476 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 5: you know, needed help when when I know I needed help, 477 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 5: when when I didn't have it. So I'm ready to 478 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 5: be that, to be that a role model. 479 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: All right, totally different topic. 480 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: You're from Seattle, you played it, you dub am I. 481 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: Wrong to assume you're a Seahawks fan. 482 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: I may or may not have had a Michael Bennett jersey. 483 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: Did you have a Russell Wilson jersey? 484 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: Richard Sherman? 485 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 3: Okay, so I get it. You're on the defensive side 486 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 3: of the ball. 487 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 4: Patrick Kearney. 488 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 5: If you know anything about the name Patrick Kearney, that 489 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 5: was my first jersey I ever had. 490 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Kearney, University of Virginia, former Atlanta Falcon, Patrick Kearney, 491 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: that guy. 492 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 5: Former Seahawks. He had a ninety seven jersey I had 493 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 5: the had. I had the honor of rocking that as 494 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 5: my first ever NFL jersey. 495 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 3: Okay, as a kid, have you seen Russ in the 496 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: building yet? Today? 497 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 5: I think I glanced over and he was in the cafeteria, 498 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 5: but I didn't get to meet him out. 499 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: Okay, if you have the chance to play with him. 500 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: This is all hypothetical here, I realize you know we're 501 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: recording this on a Thursday during creagency. A lot can 502 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: happen between now at the time it actually gets posted. 503 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: Would that be something that would interest you for sure? 504 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 5: You know you know I would always be interested in 505 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 5: the super Bowl, you know, winning quarterback on on on 506 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 5: a roster that could offer those type of insights and 507 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 5: leadership and just overall the human being that you know 508 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 5: he is, I've seen and you know know what he 509 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 5: could print the organization. 510 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: All right, final thing here, obviously you're this is the 511 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: bark tank We're you're gonna be playing in the dog pound, Howard, 512 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: Bruno and Bailey. As I stalked your Instagram. 513 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 4: Yo, it was my Australian shepherds. They doing good man. 514 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 5: They they they cooling it in Washington right now with 515 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 5: my dukes, uh protecting, you know, just barking and noise 516 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 5: and when the when the doorbell rings. 517 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 3: So they're not coming to Cleveland. 518 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 4: It depends, it depends. 519 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 5: I might have to get a bigger dog out here 520 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 5: because they're insane that together. 521 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 4: They need like a walker all the time. They're insane. 522 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: Okay, well, you know what, you could be the big 523 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: dog as well and get a new big dog and 524 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: bring the other dogs you know when you have it. 525 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 4: Whatever you want. 526 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: We appreciate you, Joe, thanks for doing the bar tank Man. 527 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: Can't wait to meet in person. Good luck to you, sir. 528 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: Of course, Andrew, thanks for having me take care. 529 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: I've said this a couple of times, Gibbe. I think 530 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: that is a big upside play here for the Browns. 531 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: Former first round pick Todd Bowles moved him around a lot. 532 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was to his It wasn't 533 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: to his benefit. I'll say it that way. And I 534 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: think rushing you put them wide opposite Miles. I think 535 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: it's a good position to be. 536 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, let him attack, That's what I mean. He said 537 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: it multiple times in this press conference in his interview 538 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: with you. Just excited to be able to run downhill 539 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: and chase the quarterback and get after the quarterback and 540 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: make plays in the backfield that forced that quarterback to 541 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 2: make mistakes with the football, hopefully at the benefit of 542 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: our secondary. So he's exciting. I think it's a good addition. 543 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: I think you can't have enough guys on that defensive front, 544 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: especially with the rotation that Jimy Schwartz likes to use. 545 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: Next week, as mentioned, it is back to draft season, 546 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: not that we're not in draft season right now, and 547 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: maybe next week, Gibbe, we do a deeper dive on 548 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: journey at Huntington Bank field on draft night. Do you 549 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: have a favorite Journey song other than Don't Stop Believing? 550 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: I do, and I don't remember the name of it, 551 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: but it's about it's about them being on the road. 552 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 3: Anyway you want it? 553 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no. 554 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: Wheel in the Sky. 555 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: No. It's kind of like a ballads he has trouble Siege. 556 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: Do you know? CJ's shaking her head. She knows, but 557 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of it. It's a really 558 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: cool song. Faithfully, Faithfully there it is faithful Jordan with 559 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 2: the assist. 560 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: Okay, look at that on the Frontiers album nineteen eighty three. 561 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: Bam, Great Journey Greatest Hits CD, still have it? 562 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: Well. 563 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: Great Journey is going to be a midfield Our draft 564 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: had on the twenty fourth, and we will faithfully return 565 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: next week as the wheel in the sky keeps on 566 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: turning towards the draft, and we'll let's just tease a 567 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: draft expert next week. 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