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Speaker 1: win that game, you might have wrote me in this

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Speaker 1: some have just been off with them all season long.

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Speaker 1: And then to me that Lions win, and I had

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Speaker 1: some people come at me like, oh, the Packers had

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Speaker 1: They signed Jamal Adams off the couch and immediately played

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Speaker 1: Their offense was healthy for the most part. I mean

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Speaker 1: they actually were missing their left tackle in that game.

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Speaker 1: But they got a huge game. This week. We got

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's dive into some stories around the football world.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Bill Belichick who went on with McAfee

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Speaker 1: and addressed the elephant in the room, his potential coaching

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Speaker 1: at the University of North Carolina. And I think a

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Speaker 1: couple things are clearly happening right One. I think Belichick

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Speaker 1: is acknowledging that there is no guarantee that he's going

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Speaker 1: to be a coach in the NFL. He's seen over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years a lot of these teams

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Speaker 1: basically lean into a committee their coach, their GM, their president.

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Speaker 1: It's like a board of directors. They all work together.

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Speaker 1: That is not the NFL. Bill Belichick came up in,

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Speaker 1: and then the one that he thrived, it was a

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Speaker 1: dictatorship when he works for par sales, and then when

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Speaker 1: he became a head coach, it was one guy who

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Speaker 1: made the decisions. Now, ultimately one person has to make

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Speaker 1: the decisions. It's why all these organizations that have become

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Speaker 1: like a board of directors feel like they're struggling because

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Speaker 1: they got too many cooks in the kitchen, and Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick has to go well one, the Jets job is

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00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: off limits. He would never take it. They would never

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Speaker 1: hire him. The bear's job. Kevin Warren would never even

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Speaker 1: acknowledge Bill Belichick's existence, the jack's job. If your Bill,

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Speaker 1: You're like, do I want to coach this two hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollar quarterback who might be a scrub? And then

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Speaker 1: you go depending on the other openings, like what if

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Speaker 1: they don't even call me? What if they don't even

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Speaker 1: interview me. I mean last year with all the openings,

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Speaker 1: I only had one interview, so it might not happen,

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Speaker 1: and God put me on this earth through coach football.

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00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: It's been fun watching him on McAfee and watching him

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00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: do some podcasts and TV hits and talk some shit.

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Speaker 1: That has been cool. It has been very freshing. But

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00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: he should coach football. Why because that is his great

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00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: talent and at seventy two, seventy three years old, like

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Speaker 1: he can't afford to sit out multiple years and have

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Speaker 1: this thing passing by. So this story about North Carolina,

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00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: which he not only acknowledged, I would say he did

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00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: not run away from it at all. And obviously the

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Speaker 1: changing landscape of NIL, the transfer portal, I would say,

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00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: feeds in to a guy like him who has a

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Speaker 1: professional background of dealing with contract negotiations, of cutting players,

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Speaker 1: of telling a guy you're not welcome anymore, a free agency.

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Speaker 1: Like he's comfortable in that environment, an environment that a

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Speaker 1: lot of these college coaches who are used to basically,

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Speaker 1: I'm the grand pooh bah and once I sign you

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Speaker 1: on my team and you're kind of stuck here and

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00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: you can never leave, they're uncomfortable with that. It's why

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Speaker 1: they complain about it NonStop. Now you could argue there

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00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: are no rules or regulations. It's kind of a fucked

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Speaker 1: up system right now, and there's some truth to that,

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Speaker 1: But like the NFL is very comfortable with, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this guy can be a free agent. We got to

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Speaker 1: make a decision on this guy's contract. Like that's what

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's been doing for fifty years. And I think

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Speaker 1: the North Carolina job, what are the questions you think

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Speaker 1: he's asking, what are my financial resources? How much NIL

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Speaker 1: money are we going to have? And the other thing

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Speaker 1: he mentioned with McAfee, is like, if I were to

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Speaker 1: do this, if if he said that a couple times,

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Speaker 1: we would be a a breeding ground for the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And if you play for me, I'm getting you ready

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Speaker 1: for that, because I know that better than anyone in

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Speaker 1: the collegiate world. I know how to get you ready

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Speaker 1: to be a professional football player. If I was a guy,

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Speaker 1: a high school recruit or a transfer portal guy, and

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Speaker 1: I had aspirations to play in the NFL, and Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick was a head coach in the NFL, there is

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Speaker 1: not a coach that I would rather play for now.

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Speaker 1: It would not be easy. But playing for Kirby Smart

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00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: is not easy. Playing for Nick Saban was not easy.

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Speaker 1: Playing for good coaches is never going to be easy.

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Speaker 1: But no one would have a better understanding of what

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Speaker 1: it takes to be a good football player at the

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Speaker 1: next level than this guy. So I completely understand why

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Speaker 1: North Carolina is all in on him, and I think

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Speaker 1: the other elephant in the room is now. He didn't

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Speaker 1: talk about this. There have been reports on the interweb

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Speaker 1: about this. Colin mentioned this when I went on the

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Speaker 1: podcast with him yesterday. People in the league believe this

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00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: is part of this interest is to get North Carolina

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Speaker 1: to essentially name his son Steve Belichick, who's currently the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator at Washington, as the coach in waiting. And

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Speaker 1: I think the natural reaction if you just go on

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00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: this bullshit nepotism. It's like, here's my thing, and listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in a position like Bill Belichick or Lebron

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Speaker 1: James where I have unlimited leverage and I can do

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Speaker 1: whatever I want. But I would also acknowledge part of

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Speaker 1: you do is to gain leverage to then not have

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Speaker 1: to answer to anyone, and then also not have to

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Speaker 1: do what everyone thinks you should do. You get to

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Speaker 1: do whatever the hell you want to do. And my

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00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: perception or my perspective on a Lebron James situation, I

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Speaker 1: think it's probably different than most because my dad's dead,

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Speaker 1: and do you know what I would do to spend

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Speaker 1: some time with him? I actually think, like, listen, whether

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Speaker 1: the guy should be there or not. Of course, he's

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Speaker 1: not an NBA player, we all understand that. But do

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Speaker 1: I blame Lebron James for wanting to spend time with

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Speaker 1: his son enforcing the Lakers where he has been yielding

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Speaker 1: power for almost two decades. No, I completely understand it.

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Speaker 1: What's the point of being the best outworking everybody and

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00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: That's the whole point of business. You don't get leveraged

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Speaker 1: guess what happens to everyone that doesn't have it. They

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00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 1: get jealous and they get pissed off. Why because the

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Speaker 1: majority of people, the overwhelming majority of people, not only

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Speaker 1: and part of it is Steve Belichick, well that's his leverage. Now,

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Speaker 1: you could also acknowledge or argue that if you're Steve

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Speaker 1: Belichick or Bronnie James, them doing this stuff makes life

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Speaker 1: like having lebron James tell the Lakers, well, he's not

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00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: over under it like five and a half times ever

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Speaker 1: So you think he's gonna fly with the poors in

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Speaker 1: the G League? Come on, you know you think Belichick's

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00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: just gonna take the North Carolina job without some insane stipulations.

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00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: This is a guy with one hundred million dollars in

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Speaker 1: any team hiring Bill Belichick, I'm sure he's gonna hire Steve,

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Speaker 1: But saying that my coach or Steve is gonna be

641
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: the coach in waiting, that's one of them. Like I

642
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Speaker 1: understand it, Like like I who knows I might do

643
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Speaker 1: the same thing if I was a seventy two year

644
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: old guy and had a thirty two year old son

645
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Speaker 1: who I wanted to put in the best position possible.

646
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Speaker 1: Isn't that why I work so hard the last fifty

647
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Speaker 1: sixty years. If I'm Bill Belichick is basically to do

648
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Speaker 1: whatever I want. That's business. That's that's you work your

649
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: whole life to get into a position where you answer

650
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: to nobody, And if you do have to answer to someone,

651
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: you have so much leverage that that person, while they

652
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: might be signing your checks or technically your boss, you're

653
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: in control of what you're telling them to do. And

654
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: that's the leverage Bill Belichick would have in this situation.

655
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: So if that is ultimately how this plays out and

656
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Speaker 1: he gets the North Carolina job and that stipulation is

657
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: in there, everyone will freak out, and my reaction would be, well, yeah,

658
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: it's probably a huge reason why he took the job.

659
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: You know. Part of we talk about this all the time,

660
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: being a coordinator, being a position coach, how there's just

661
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: not as much on your plate, right, and being a

662
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: position coach is really hard. If you're an offensive line

663
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: coach or a defensive line coach, you have a unit

664
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: of seven, eight ten guys, a bunch of different personalities.

665
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: You don't control who's in that room. When guys get

666
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: injured and the GM and the head coach trade a

667
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: guy guy like you just have to coach him. That's

668
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: your job. You just coach who's ever in that room.

669
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: And then once you become a coordinator, you're entrusted with

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00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: calling the plays, with running the room, running the unit,

671
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: so a lot more is on your plate. But still

672
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: like when anything happens, someone gets in trouble, there's contract

673
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: disputes or negotiations, that's not your problem. Your job is

674
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: just to design plays and coach a practice and get

675
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: the game plan ready on a weekly basis. And then

676
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: you become a head coach and everything good and bad

677
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: is on your table. Twenty four to seven, three sixty five.

678
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: Think about this. The Eagles just tied a franchise record

679
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: for nine straight wins. You win nine games in the NFL,

680
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: you are having a fantastic season. It's borderline. I would

681
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: say there's never been a nine game winning streak in

682
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: NFL history where a team didn't finish I'd be shocked

683
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: if they finished any lower than like the two seed,

684
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: and the Eagles have after starting two and two and

685
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: looking weird, have had a fantastic season. I mean, Saquon

686
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: Barkley looks like he's headed to shatter records. Right, there's

687
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: a potential if I think I saw today, if he

688
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: runs for four hundred and eighty three yards. He will

689
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: break the record for all time yards in a season,

690
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: which is really impressive, which is not good for Joe

691
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: Shane and the Giants. But part of being a head coaches,

692
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: it's easy to go, well, hey, shit's gonna hit the fan.

693
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: I gotta learn to handle it. Star player gets a dui,

694
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: star player shatters his leg. There's a fight in your

695
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: locker room after a two game losing streak. Your coaches,

696
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: maybe two assistant coaches hate each other. Maybe one of

697
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: your assistant coaches and the assistant gm get into a

698
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: screaming match in the hallway. I mean, who knows. We're

699
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: talking big egos, big money, shit happening left and right.

700
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: It's football. It's a contentious environment. But what about when

701
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: you're having a lot of success and you're winning games,

702
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: and your star players are complaining. And that's what happened to, Sirianni.

703
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: You got aj Brown giving I would say, somewhat of

704
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: a bizarre press conference. You got Devonte Smith also saying

705
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: essentially like, yeah, we're just off. Something is off. The

706
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: rhythm is not there. These are two guys who are

707
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: not in a contract year, who their stats ultimately don't

708
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: impact their money at all both of them. Aj Brown's

709
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: now on his second contract extension with the Eagles. DeVante

710
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: Smith just got extended this offseason. Both of them make

711
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: a boatload of money and their team is literally thriving.

712
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: The game against the Panthers was a little weird, but

713
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: it was a trap game. They just kicked the shit

714
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: out of Baltimore. But their passing game, and here's the thing,

715
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts isn't Peyton Manning or Josh Allen or Mahomes

716
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: or Lamar Like as a passer, he's flawed. He can

717
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: make great plays, but I would not call him a

718
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: consistent rhythm passer. And you watch them play and I

719
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: mean he struggled to throw for one hundred and twenty

720
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: five yards. I mean he barely eclipsed to one hundred

721
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: yards and receivers. Whether you're winning or whether you're losing,

722
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. They all kind of are the same,

723
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: and they want the ball and they want their targets.

724
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Speaker 1: And now, Siriani, let's face it, his team is going

725
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: into a massive game with the Steelers. They should be

726
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: riding high. Now, the elephant in the room is like,

727
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: I gotta get these guys all on the same page,

728
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: specifically my wide receivers and listen. I don't know if

729
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: it's just we're reading too much into it and basically

730
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: like our passing games off it needs to be better

731
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: for us to win the whole thing, or if it's

732
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: simple like I need more targets than what I just

733
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: got or Jalen's got to pick up a shit, or

734
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: maybe there's some jealousy of Saquan who has become this

735
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 1: megastar he's in the MVP conversation. This guy just shows

736
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: up and we've been the stars here before this, like

737
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: we were the guys carrying the offense, regardless of what

738
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: it is. This is why being a head coach is

739
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: so hard because obviously when team sucks, when you're the

740
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: New York Giants or you're the Jacksonville Jags and just

741
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: it's a miserable experience, and trying to keep people in

742
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: your coaches, your players is a difficult job requirement. Just

743
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: because you're winning doesn't mean it's easy. And in a

744
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: place like Philly, you could argue it's harder because there

745
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: are so many people watching. Everyone's nitpicking every single place.

746
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: It's like, ah, you're just you know, drop pass away

747
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: from losing that game to the Carolina even though Carolina

748
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: has been playing really well almost beat the Chiefs, So

749
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: it's not like now they're just this almost lost as

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Speaker 1: three and nineteen. Well they're not your typical three and nineteen.

751
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: They're playing pretty well. But if they would have lost

752
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: that game at home, even though it's a trap game

753
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: right before Baltimore and Pittsburgh, everyone would have freaked. And

754
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: now your wide receivers are kind of acting weird and

755
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean, this is this is why these

756
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: head coaches make so much money, because you're dealing with

757
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: huge personalities, huge egos, guys making more money than you,

758
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: Guys that you need to win all the big games

759
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: coming up, not just this week, but then in January

760
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: and ideally in the Super Bowl. So good luck to

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00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: Sirianni fixing this problem, because right now it feels like

762
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: the receivers aren't too happy with their quarterback. I saw

763
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: that this is good news for the NFL that the

764
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime game, which is not shocking, between the Lions

765
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: and the Packers, broke a record highest rated streaming game

766
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: so far of this, I don't even want to call

767
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: it an experiment of this current package since Amazon has

768
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: been in business with the NFL. They almost got eighteen

769
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: million people watching this. And you just saw the NBA

770
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: whatever six months ago, maybe less than that, signed this

771
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: massive television deal, and their ratings are plummeting by the year.

772
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: Less and less people are watching professional basketball, and the

773
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: NFL is increasing, and everyone talks shit like the sport's

774
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: never been softer, it's never been a worse product. Yet

775
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: more and more people are watching. So the streaming situation,

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00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: if you put you know and listen. Streaming has dabbled

777
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: in these other sports, right, Apple dabbled on Friday night baseball.

778
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: You could take an incredible matchup Dodgers and Yankees and

779
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: put them on Amazon Prime. Or take the best two

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00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: basketball teams, right, the Bucks versus the Celtics, Right, the

781
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: Warriors versus Lebron and the Lakers. I know they're not

782
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: the best teams, but you know what I mean, big brands.

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00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: I a regular season game, I think you would struggle

784
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: to get a couple million people that would stream it.

785
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: And when you're talking about these type numbers, the potential

786
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Speaker 1: for the NFL's next television deal, you just saw the NBA,

787
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: who was struggling to keep people engaged with their product. Triple,

788
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: maybe not triple, but more than double their previous deal.

789
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: Imagine what the NFL is about to do. Because it's

790
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: one thing on broadcast network, right, CBS, Fox, NBC doing well,

791
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: you start doing seventeen to twenty million people watching these games.

792
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: Wait till Christmas happens. What do you think those numbers

793
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: are going to be on Christmas Day? They are going

794
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: to be huge. So you have the power that you

795
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: know on television, which they've always had, and now you

796
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: have the streaming power. This thing is only the beginning.

797
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you you could see this coming from

798
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: a mile away. The shift is about to happen. My

799
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: guess is this next television package has a huge Netflix presence,

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00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: and maybe that is the Netflix Sunday Morning International Game.

801
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: Maybe instead of CBS, Fox like get all the games

802
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: on Sunday the morning and the afternoon window. Maybe Netflix

803
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: gets two games, you know, a ten am West Coast

804
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: kickoff and a one pm West Coast kickoff. Maybe they

805
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: get two games each and they pay I don't know,

806
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: five billion dollars a year for that for those two games.

807
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: Whatever that I'm just throwing out the number. But my

808
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: point is these are type numbers, and this is the

809
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: type ability to move the needle that is going to

810
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: be extremely lucrative for the business. And their business includes

811
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: a revenue split between the players and the teams. So

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00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: you talk about salaries going up for the players, you

813
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: talk about salaries only going up for coaches. You talk

814
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: about valuations going up for teams. A rising tide lift

815
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: all boats. And when you see these numbers, seventeen million

816
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: people streamed a sporting event, football is the only thing

817
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: that could sniff I would say five plus million. And

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00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: the NFL is the only thing. I'm not talking like

819
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: a pay per viewed event. I'm talking sports, hockey, basketball, baseball, golf,

820
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: you name it is this thing and the NFL is

821
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: unlike anything right now in this country when it comes

822
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: to when it comes to interest and listen. It was

823
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: a great matchup the Packers first alliance. But there's a

824
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: reason that the Thursday Night package has gotten better games

825
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: because they want Amazon obviously Netflix now with Christmas they

826
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: want them more involved. Why because they got the most money.

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00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: Netflix and Amazon have more money than these other TV conglomerates.

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00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: So when you see this new television deal. Everyone's bitching

829
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: and moment about streaming, buckle up because it's only the beginning.

830
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: And if you told me that within six seven years

831
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: streaming is the only option to watch the NFL, I

832
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: don't think that's inconceivable. I've talked about this before. The

833
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: radio situation. I think there are major radio stations where

834
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: I come from in the Bay Area in northern California

835
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: with K and BR, which is one of the biggest

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00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 1: sports stations in the history of radio. If you told

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00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: me in five years it doesn't exist, I think it's

838
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: on the table. So we're seeing the cable bundle just

839
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: get destroyed exponentially, week by week, year by year. So

840
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: if you don't think by twenty thirty or twenty nine,

841
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: when this new television deals on the table, that it's

842
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: streaming only, you would be nuts. You would not be

843
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: living in the same reality that I'm living in. And

844
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: part of it is my business is very streaming oriented

845
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: and having been more on terrestrial and traditional you know, mediums,

846
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: and then made the transition, like I see the way

847
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: everything's flowing in the growth that I don't there's just

848
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: no stopping it. And when you talk about this situation

849
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: and the people they're in business with, the Amazons, the Netflix,

850
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: like you might want to google their market caps, you

851
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: might you might want to look at who they're competing

852
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: against and buckle up, because if you're complaining about paying

853
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: for streaming services now to watch the NFL, it's it's

854
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: it's not gonna slow down. And last, but not least,

855
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about this on Sunday Night, was Wan

856
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: Soda who got a fifteen year contract for over seven

857
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars. And my first reaction, I

858
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: would imagine, like most human beings, was oh my god,

859
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 1: that's that is insane, because that number is insane. There

860
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: think who you would do a fifteen year contract with

861
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: in life. There aren't many business people, business partnerships you

862
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: would do fifteen year deals with. They're just they're just

863
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: aren't I would say, your children. You don't really get

864
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: to sign up for a partnership with them, you just

865
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: have they're just your children for life. Obviously, marriages in

866
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: theory are lifelong, but fifty percent of them don't work.

867
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: So a fifteen year business deal is borderline on pres

868
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: cdented and on the surface, I listen, it's insane. It's

869
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: it's not good business. I think we all acknowledge that

870
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: signing a baseball player at twenty six years old to

871
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: a fifteen year contract is crazy. Now there are stipulations.

872
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: After five years he can opt out, but they can

873
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: also opt in if they give him a raise at

874
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: like four million dollars per year, going from fifty one

875
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 1: million dollars a year to fifty five million dollars a year.

876
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: It's not about the nitty gritty of the contract, because

877
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: I would say more than likely at thirty years old

878
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: he opts into a four hundred and five hundred million

879
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: dollar contract and the or the Mets just you know,

880
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: give him the boost. But regardless, most people think this

881
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: is crazy. And I would say this Steve Cohen, who

882
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: bought the Mets, who Axelrod. If you watch Billions, basically

883
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: poor trade in that show today, and so I could

884
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: be off a billion or two is worth well over

885
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: twenty billion dollars. He's also sixty eight years old. So

886
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: if you're him, and this is a little bit of

887
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: the Belichick thing, and you've worked your whole life, and

888
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: in the show Billions that there was a famous line

889
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: that I will never forget where Act says, what's the

890
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: point of having FU money if you never say f you?

891
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,479
Speaker 1: And I think that sums up this situation. You've made

892
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: all this money, you've been a killer on Wall Street

893
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: for decades, you finally get the Mets, your team's actually

894
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: pretty good, and you're going head to head with the

895
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: Yankees over this guy. And if you are going to argue,

896
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: and because they were willing to kind of get pretty

897
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: close to the number, why do I care what thirty

898
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 1: five to forty looks like? Hell, I might not even

899
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: be alive in ten years. And if you've seen Steve Cohen,

900
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's actually the pillar of health when

901
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: you see his body type. But like I think, sometimes

902
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: these deals. I see it with Maria who's now like

903
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: involved in luxury real estate and she's showing these homes,

904
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, a mile away from where we live in

905
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: Arizona for twenty to thirty million dollars. And you know

906
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: one thing she says that never comes up is interest rates.

907
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: She hasn't heard the word interest rate yet that she's

908
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: worked with this new brokerage for over a couple months.

909
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: You know why, because those people, if you're mind a

910
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollar home in twenty twenty four. It's

911
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: crazy as it sounds. You're paying cash and when you

912
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: see Steve Cohen pay seven hundred and fifty million and

913
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: it's not up front. This isn't an NFL contract, right,

914
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: You pay as you go? You go. Yeah, I'll give

915
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: the guy a seventy five million dollars signing bonus and

916
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out as we go, because I know

917
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: how to make money. Is this contract great business? Of course,

918
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: not long term, but in the short term, which is

919
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: all I care about. Given that I'm sixty sixty nine

920
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: years old, I've worked my entire life to accumulate all

921
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: this money. I don't give a shit, and I want

922
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: to steal him away from the New York Yankees, which

923
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: I did. So is this deal going to age? Well,

924
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: you would say probably not because I'm not exactly Jason

925
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: Stark or Peter Gammons here. But this isn't the athlete

926
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: of show Heyo Tani Again. I don't have his defensive metrics,

927
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: but watching the playoffs, I don't think he's a great

928
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: defensive player. He's an all time great hitter. He's like

929
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: Ted Williams, right, he's just, he's just. He's Tony Gwyn

930
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: with pop. He's an elite hitter. But seems pretty nuts.

931
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: But if I was worth twenty one billion dollars and

932
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: I really wanted something, you know what I would do?

933
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: I would probably do some pretty nutty things. Because I

934
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: remember reading something one time that summed up what it

935
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: was like to be a billionaire, and they said, imagine,

936
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: everything in life is free. So if you're Steve Cohen,

937
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: you're like seven hundred and fifty million dollars to sign

938
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: this player. It doesn't change your life, it doesn't change

939
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: your business, it doesn't change your outlook of your own

940
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: franchise one iota. And if some of these other sports,

941
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: like basketball did not have a true cap, if football

942
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: did not as well, you would see more of this

943
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: type stuff happening now. I think big picture for the

944
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: sport is a healthy Probably not right. I don't think

945
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: it is. I don't have a solution, like you shouldn't

946
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: cap wages and stuff. But how many teams realistically could

947
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: even think about doing this three or four? And thank

948
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: god the Dodgers didn't get them, because if you went

949
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: to the Dodgers, we might as well just shut down

950
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: the sport. But I think it's cool and I'm glad

951
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Steve Cohen doesn't give a shit about the difference of

952
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: seven hundred million dollar seven hundred and fifty million dollars.

953
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: It makes it very entertaining. Okay, let's do a little

954
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: Midlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram Fire

955
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: in those dms, get your questions answered here on the

956
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: show at John Middlecoff Instagram fire in those dms. If

957
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 1: the Seahawks a line plays like it has been, which

958
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: has been better since we got a right tackle back

959
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: and Gino takes what the offense gives them. The defense

960
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: under Mike has been great. Do you think the Seahawks

961
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: could make it to the Super Bowl, which would mean

962
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: beating a Detroit or Philly most likely. I think we're

963
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 1: gonna learn a lot about the Seattle Seahawks's next two weeks.

964
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: They get green Bay and they get Minnesota at home.

965
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: If they win one of those two games, I think

966
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: you would have to take them very seriously as a

967
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: team that's gonna win a playoff game, because they're gonna

968
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: host one and they're gonna play one of those teams.

969
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: So if they were to beat Minnesota. I guess green

970
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: Bay has four losses. Minnesota only has two, So I mean,

971
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: if they were to beat green Bay, you'd say, well,

972
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: they get green Bay again. That would be the six

973
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: to three matchup more than likely if you assume Minnesota

974
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: or potentially Detroit is the five and we know Atlanta

975
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: or Tampa is going to be the four, so that

976
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: Minnesota team would probably play you know, Tampa, though Tampa

977
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: plays the Chargers this week and I as Atlanta played

978
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: the Giants. Have to relook at the schedule. But I

979
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: think Seadlets could definitely win a playoff game, which is

980
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: a massive, massive achievement for a franchise that just hasn't

981
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: been that good, right. I mean, they made it the

982
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: playoffs a couple of years ago and then they got

983
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: trounced in the first round by the Niners. Last year

984
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: they missed the playoffs. So winning a playoff game, to me,

985
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: would be a very very impressive first year for Mike McDonald.

986
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: But big picture, like could they win the Super Bowl? No,

987
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: I do not believe they can win the Super Bowl.

988
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: I'd be a little stunned if they could win multiple

989
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: playoff games. To be honest with you do you think

990
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: the quality of the game is getting worse With all

991
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: these rookie quarterbacks being asked to start right away. It

992
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: seems like we have to now sit through and watch

993
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: two to three years of development, whereas in the past,

994
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: rookies would sit one year and then would be somewhat

995
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: seasoned in their first full time season. The fact that

996
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: some quarterbacks are coming out of college without four year

997
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: of starts seems to make it even worse. I'm going

998
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: to push back on that a little bit. Look at

999
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, he started in college for two and a

1000
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: half years, who went number two? Jaden Daniels, he started

1001
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: for three or four years, couple at ASU, multiple at LSU,

1002
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: Drake May, multiple year starter, Bo Nicks, more college starts

1003
00:55:54,880 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: than any player in college history. Michael Pennix he would

1004
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: have been a five or six year starter with all

1005
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: the injuries. And yeah, so I think a lot of

1006
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: these guys. Who else am I missing? Jj McCarthy multiple

1007
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: year starter. These guys are playing a lot. I mean,

1008
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: look at this upcoming year. Cam Ward's been starting for

1009
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: three plus years. Schador's been a starter for three plus years.

1010
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: I think these guys are playing it's just it's really hard.

1011
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: I think we've seen a long long time in football

1012
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: that just regardless how much you play, regardless your situation,

1013
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: most guys, it's tough. It's just really really hard. I mean,

1014
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: Caleb's on a joke franchise right now, so like, and

1015
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: he has a lot to work on, so he needs

1016
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: to be coached up. So I think there are a

1017
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: lot of different variables. I would say worse than ever. No,

1018
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I think the game's different. I mean,

1019
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: there are elements of it that I miss, but I

1020
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: find myself pretty entertained when I'm watching it. To be

1021
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: honest with you, question, list the top five quarterbacks in

1022
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: the NFC. Okay, let's pull up the NFC. I would

1023
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: say this season, for sure would be Goff. In no

1024
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: order would be Darnald I think I throw Jordan Love

1025
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: in there. Stafford Hurts perty would be on the fringe,

1026
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: Baker be on the fringe. So I think your locks

1027
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: are Stafford Goff. You know, if you ask aj Brown,

1028
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: he'd say, do not put Jalen Hurts on that on

1029
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: that list. Jalen's weird. I mean, Jalen's a really good player. Obviously,

1030
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: his running ability, his playmaking ability, but he can't like

1031
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: like Stafford and godf he's not picking you apart from

1032
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: the pocket. He's much more of a playmaker, but his

1033
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: playmaking translates to winning. Dax hurt Car stinks, Caleb kind

1034
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: of stinks. Bryce is actually coming on. Cousin stinks. Jaden's

1035
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: been terrible now for a month. Geno's Gino men solid.

1036
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: What are Geno's stats this year? Gino right now is

1037
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: four d touchdowns, twelve picks. So yeah, I don't know

1038
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: if I'd put Gino in there. So I think you

1039
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: would go. If I was trying to do a list,

1040
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: I would go Stafford won. This is like their best

1041
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: version throughout the season. I'd go Stafford Golf, Stafford goff Do,

1042
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: I go Jalen. You know people are pushed back on

1043
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. I like Jordan Love. I'd probably go Stafford Golf.

1044
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: I mean Jordan Love twenty one touchs, eleven picks, He's

1045
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: been banged up. Jordan Love hurts party. Maybe it's not

1046
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: exactly mahomes Alan Lamar Herbert, but not bad, not bad.

1047
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: Sadly still a Giants fan reaching out to let you

1048
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: know that I hate football. The season really did it

1049
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 1: for me. The Giants organization is outdated. In a joke,

1050
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: it seems like they're stuck in the two thousands and

1051
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: they have not updated their operations to conform to the

1052
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: modern day post concussion settlement NFL. I really don't care

1053
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: what happens with the team. If they draft a quarterback,

1054
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: he will likely be a bust because the team and

1055
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: the culture is awful. Going to take a full year

1056
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: off of football and we'll check back in during twenty

1057
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: twenty six to see if things have improved. I think

1058
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: you have a valid point of you don't think about

1059
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: businesses that don't adapt properly, and we saw a lot

1060
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: of them, Like anyone who was kind of of my

1061
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: age that grew up in the nineties and then through

1062
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: the two thousands. What changed dramatically, you know in the

1063
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: early two thousands, right, the Internet, and as that pivot

1064
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: happened that decade, a lot of companies got lapped and destroyed,

1065
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: right you know. I mean one of the most famous

1066
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 1: ones is Blockbuster had the opportunity to buy Netflix, right,

1067
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, And when you can't pivot as things are changing,

1068
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: I use this analogy or this example a lot. But

1069
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: radio is just in so much trouble because of the

1070
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: way the consumer now operates. The phone is how we

1071
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: listen to stuff connecting to our car when we get

1072
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: into it, and that has wiped out country or not country,

1073
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: but just you know music radio, whatever music. You know,

1074
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: country radio, rock radio, hip hop radio, even talk radio

1075
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: has dramatically changed because we stream top talk radio. The

1076
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: biggest show in America is not a radio show anymore,

1077
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: show Rogan, which is a podcast. So I just think that,

1078
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, the Giants have the success. They're an old

1079
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: school organization. They're almost like a country club for those

1080
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: of golfers out there. You know, there are some country

1081
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: clubs that when you walk into that are very very

1082
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: old school. You take your hat off, your shirt has

1083
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: to be tucked in at all times, and that's just

1084
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: a very old school way of doing business in the

1085
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: golfing world. And whether it's Olympic club, whether it's nice

1086
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: country clubs all over the country. And then there's this

1087
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: new age of clubs and they are the most expensive.

1088
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: You know, one right down the street from me where

1089
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, famous rich people or members.

1090
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: It's called Silver Leaf. There are no dress codes. You

1091
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want, you can wear whatever you want,

1092
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: you can listen to your music as loud as you want.

1093
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: And it costs half a million dollars to get in

1094
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: all these Discovery properties. There's one in Palm Springs, there's

1095
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: one in Nashville, there's one in Montana. There's one it's

1096
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: the famous one in the Bahamas that if you follow golf,

1097
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: they like Justin Thomas and Ricky Fowler and all those

1098
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: guys went to no rules. You know why, because the

1099
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: modern day consumer. I got no problem if I have

1100
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: the money paying for it, but I don't want any

1101
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: rules and regulation of what I want to wear. I'm

1102
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: coming here to have a good time. This isn't a

1103
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: business meeting. I'm coming to kick it, hang out, have

1104
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: some cocktails, and play golf. And I think football there

1105
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: are always going to be elements of discipline and seriousness.

1106
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: But obviously the world has changed, and I think it's

1107
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: been very, very difficult on the Giants to figure that out.

1108
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't have all the answers, but I hear you

1109
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: and I feel your pain. Question for the pod, what

1110
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: do you think about McCarthy being the next head coach

1111
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: of the Bears, assuming Mike gets fired from the Cowboys.

1112
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: I think he would be a good fit. He's won

1113
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: everywhere he's gone and is the team and as long

1114
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: as the team is good players Dak and Aaron. They

1115
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: have had some of their best seasons with him as

1116
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: their coach, and he's used to meddling a medaling front office,

1117
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: and most coaches wouldn't want to deal with that. Let

1118
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: me know what you think if Mike McCarthy's available, I

1119
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: am one hundred percent with you. The Bear should be

1120
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: all over. How could the Bears do better than Mike McCarthy.

1121
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: It's why I think Mike Vrabel makes a lot of sense.

1122
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: A guy that's been ahead coach, a guy that's had success,

1123
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: and a guy that knows how to win. And McCarthy

1124
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: even different than Vrabel, same thing, guy that's been ahead coach,

1125
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: a guy that's now won multiple places, and unlike Vrabel,

1126
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: a guy that can coach the quarterback and quarterbacks play

1127
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: well under his watch. I think it's starting to feel

1128
01:03:54,560 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: more and more like Jerry's gonna keep Mike, so I

1129
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: would have said a couple of weeks ago guarantee he's fired.

1130
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: After Jerry's comments about just listening to people talk. Maybe

1131
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: Mike comes back. As a Vikings fan would love to

1132
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: see Darnold stay, but more than likely he won't. How

1133
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: does a tag and trade to the Seahawks sound Seattle

1134
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: gets a better quarterback and for a long time future,

1135
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: and the Vikings get draft capital and build for the future.

1136
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: I definitely think that would be on the table. I

1137
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: would say this if you tag and trade him and

1138
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: choose not to keep him. The amount of pressure that JJ.

1139
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: Anytime you're starting quarterback in the NFL, there's a lot

1140
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: of pressure. It's part of the business. It's a difficult

1141
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:49,479
Speaker 1: spot to be in and it's just hard, and most

1142
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: guys are fail right and relative right don't become high

1143
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:58,959
Speaker 1: end players, JJ McCarthy. If they do this tag and trade,

1144
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: he'll just be compared do Sam Dormant, And I think

1145
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: that's an extremely risky move from Minnesota. The whole point

1146
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: of football is to find a good quarterback, whether you

1147
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: draft a guy and find them like the Packers did

1148
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers or the uh you know, the Patriots

1149
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: did with Tom Brady, the Chiefs did with Patrick Mahomes,

1150
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: whether it's signing a guy in free agency like the

1151
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: Broncos did with Peyton Manning, like the Raiders did once

1152
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: upon a time with rich Gannon, like the Saints did

1153
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: with Drew Brees. However you acquire, it doesn't matter whether

1154
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: the guy falls in your lap with the last pick

1155
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: in the draft, like brock Purty. But once you get

1156
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: a guy who's pretty good and you can win games with,

1157
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: you got to figure out a way to keep him. Now,

1158
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 1: I understand it's a business and you don't just give

1159
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: every get won the most money possible, But are you

1160
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: telling me that if I could sign Sam Donalds right

1161
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: now to let's just say the Kirk Cousins contract. What

1162
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: was Kirk Cousins contract Like four years, one hundred and

1163
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: sixty million, and I think he got one hundred million

1164
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. Like if you he got four years one

1165
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty million dollars. Here's the deal, four years,

1166
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: one eighty average salary of forty five million dollars signing

1167
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: bonus fifty million dollars guaranteed at signing ninety total guarantees

1168
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: one hundred. I mean, if you're a Vikings fan, would

1169
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: you do that right now? So you basically got him

1170
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: for three more years. It's like, what about JJ McCarthy. Well,

1171
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: if Sam gets hurt, we just have an insurance plan

1172
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: and our backup quarterback makes a couple two or three

1173
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: million dollars and we go. We got one of the

1174
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: best backup quarterbacks in the league. We didn't plan on

1175
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: this happening, right, Unlike The difference here is the Falcons

1176
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: went all in on Cousins and then they drafted Pennix

1177
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: and then they find themselves in this situation of like, uh,

1178
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: what do we do? Can we bench him? Like? Listen,

1179
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: our plan was to go with jj Ian McCarthy. It's

1180
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: why we drafted him. And we got a bridge quarterback.

1181
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: And then that bridge quarterback who once upon a time

1182
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: was drafted number three overall through thirty eight touchdowns and

1183
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 1: led us to the NFC Championship game. So we extended them.

1184
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: We still got the rookie quarterback who's a second year

1185
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: guy coming off knee injury, and we'll just figure it

1186
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: out as we go. That's a good problem to have,

1187
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: Like their problem is a good problem to have. The

1188
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: Falcons created a problem. Uh, what's up? John? Have a

1189
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: male bag question for the future of college football? I

1190
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: don't know if this is possible, but with college football

1191
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: landscape being a bit messy, and since the SEC and

1192
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: notable Big Ten teams are the most talented and have

1193
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: better television ratings, do you think they would disband and

1194
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: make their own league. The league would basically be a

1195
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: mini NFL with conferences, divisions, and their own playoff. They

1196
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: could grab Ohio State, the Clemsons, Miamis inform their own

1197
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: league and organized playoff system. These are the games and

1198
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: the matchups that people want to watch. Anyway, do you

1199
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: think this realistic thing that could happen in the next

1200
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: five or ten years. Well, I think we're already headed there,

1201
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: and I think Greg Sanki alluded to like this is

1202
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: not gonna fly, Like we don't carry the sport for

1203
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 1: three months and then only get three teams into the playoff.

1204
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: This is not acceptable And if I was Greg Sankee,

1205
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 1: I'd be pissed, even if technically I understood why Alabama

1206
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: didn't get in, But like, why are we such a

1207
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: huge reason that this sports popularity is so big? Our

1208
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: conference puts the most guys in the NFL every single

1209
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: year by a wide margin. It is way harder to

1210
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,879
Speaker 1: play our schedule than it is to play the ACC schedule.

1211
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, some of our best teams have three losses. Well,

1212
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: if we had played in the ACC or vice versus

1213
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: the ACC had come here would how many games would

1214
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: SMU win in the SEC? At most? I would say

1215
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: eight and that'd be good. Eight and four in the

1216
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: SEC SMU, that'd be impressive season. So I think part

1217
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: of this now is to get all these people together

1218
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: and play a unified schedule. You're still gonna have some

1219
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: random teams. In hell, you might have SMU, and you

1220
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: might have you know, the Wisconsin and Iowas and the

1221
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: Mississippi States. That's fine, but they all got to play

1222
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: each other. Like the NFL, they have the Chiefs, they

1223
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: got the Bills, they I mean, they got the Lions

1224
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: and the Eagles, but they also got the Raiders and

1225
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: the Jacks. Like not everyone's good all the time. That's fine,

1226
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: but everyone's playing everybody, and that's not happening in college football.

1227
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: So when I see these records at the end of

1228
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: the year, they're not even close to be comparable. What

1229
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham did in this season was awesome. Everyone picked

1230
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: them to become be last in the Big Twelve, but

1231
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: going ten and two in the Big twelve is not

1232
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: the same as going ten and two in the SEC,

1233
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: yet they're somewhat treated the same like oh two playoff

1234
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: teams Georgia ten and two, ASU ten and two both

1235
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: won their conference championship two and three seed. What Boise

1236
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: State gotta buy? They won the Mountain West. I mean

1237
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: they're playing New Mexico and Nevada every other week. It's crazy.

1238
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: What is your opinion on the quarterback protection rules. I'm

1239
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: a fan of the Texans and Azi's outshire. The hit

1240
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: on Trevor I thought would have been shouldn't have been

1241
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: such a big deal. We had a quarterback running for

1242
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: a first down and Aziz was protecting the sticks. All

1243
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: the shouting shows were acting like he just killed someone's grandmother.

1244
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: I really found Shannon Sharp and Jeff Saturday extremely biased

1245
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: on the issue. Even the commentators for the game were

1246
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: crucifying disease. I'm not sure how a defensive player is

1247
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: supposed to approach the quarterback in the open field. I

1248
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: guess the league in the NFL media wants defensive players

1249
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 1: to just give up first downs. Now, really sad. I

1250
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: think anytime you see the crazy part is if Trevor

1251
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: Lawrence would have got right up and been fine. Anytime

1252
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: a guy's knocked out, the result of the hit then

1253
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 1: becomes way worse. Like you see salacious hits in college

1254
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and if the guy's fine, like it's

1255
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: not that big a deal. But when a guy gets

1256
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: carted off, the reaction, you know, amplifies ten x, which

1257
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: is kind of stupid, but it is what it is.

1258
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: I've said over and over that the violence taking it

1259
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: out of defenders, like they all know the rules. Now

1260
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: nobody is trying to hurt anybody. That used to not

1261
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: be the case. That is clearly the case now everyone

1262
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,520
Speaker 1: is attempting to play within the rules. But these quarterbacks

1263
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: get paid all the money, they get all the fame,

1264
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: and they take no risks. So in any business, it's like, wait,

1265
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: these guys get all the rewards, yet they take no risks.

1266
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: And if I cross the line, I get suspended, I

1267
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: get docked without pay. That never happened. Trevor Lawrence isn't

1268
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: even good and they gave him two hundred million dollars.

1269
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: You start getting this, you know, off kilter of this

1270
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: situation where these quarterbacks like Trevor Lawrence's role in the

1271
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: NFL is I would say borderline irrelevant, Like if he

1272
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: never played another snap, it would not matter. And I

1273
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:53,480
Speaker 1: do believe, like I completely understand protecting quarterbacks because Josh Allen, Lamar, Jackson, Herbert,

1274
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, you name top fifteen quarterbacks. The league needs

1275
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: them for television ratings and that's where everyone makes their money,

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01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: So I get trying to protect them. I do think

1277
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks have taken advantage of the situation. Dan Campbell

1278
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 1: went viral a couple weeks ago because Saint Brown said

1279
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: on this podcast that he told the team that Caleb

1280
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: Williams fakes, goes out of bounds and cuts back in

1281
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: and essentially when he does that, hit his ass as

1282
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: hard as humanly possible. And I saw these people on

1283
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: the internet like, oh, he's so dirty. Dirty. He's literally

1284
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: telling him if he fakes going out of bounds and

1285
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: cuts back in, hit him like you would any other player.

1286
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: And it's like, of course they should. Trevor Lawrence running

1287
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 1: in the open field. He's six foot six, two hundred

1288
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: and thirty pounds and he runs like a four to six.

1289
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: This notion of like, oh it's a late hit, it's

1290
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: so easy for every fat ass on their couch to

1291
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: say that. I don't think he was trying to hurt

1292
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: the guy. I think it was much more of a

1293
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: bang bang play than anyone said. I do think it

1294
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: is become outrageous the protections on the quarterback in terms

1295
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: of them taking advantage of that. So yeah, do I

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01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: think he should have been suspended for three games? I

1297
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: don't give him a one game suspension, be fine with me.

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01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: My question is what would it take for you to

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01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: go back to the NFL. There is no way I

1300
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't go back to the NFL one. I'm not gonna

1301
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: get the opportunity in two. There's just life's too good,

1302
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: make too much money, and I'm too good at this.

1303
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to be arrogant or whatever. I'm

1304
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: just this. I'm not leaving this, got too good of

1305
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: a thing going. So there's just zero, zero chance. I

1306
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: have no aspirations. I like doing this more than the NFL.

1307
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: Side question, what would your quick unofficial head coaching top

1308
01:14:55,400 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: five ranking? Mine is Andy Reid one, McVeigh two, Shanahan three,

1309
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: LA four five, Jim Harbaugh uh lafour for Jim Harbaugh five.

1310
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: I would take Jim Harbaugh over Lafloor. You could make

1311
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: the argument that you could take Jim Harbaugh number two. Now,

1312
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: he hasn't been in the NFL recently, and I know

1313
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a Super Bowl like Sean McVay. But

1314
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: what he's I think Jim Harbaugh is as good as

1315
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: it gets. I think he's gonna go down when it's

1316
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: all said and done, as one of the greatest coaches

1317
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: of all time. I don't think anyone I would. I

1318
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: would probably rank him mcveay, Shanahan Lafleur or Shanahan McVeigh Lafleur.

1319
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: I would definitely have Lafleur the throwd out of those

1320
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: two to be a cup of tea. You know, Kyle's

1321
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: I feel like Sean's a little happier, Kyle's a little angrier.

1322
01:15:55,680 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: Should the Cowboys call the Vikings about JJ McCarthy. Cowboys

1323
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: just gave Dak Prescott two hundred million dollars, so now,

1324
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: plus the Vikings wouldn't trade them. Even if they would,

1325
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: it would cost a lot to get them. Am I

1326
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: the only one going crazy off all these flags watching

1327
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 1: the Rams and Bills is a flag on every big play.

1328
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: If the receiver has a small push off the cornerback

1329
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: and the cornerback grabs his arm and doesn't let go.

1330
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 1: That's just football, not a flag. What do you think

1331
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: as long as the defense doesn't have a legal contact first,

1332
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: then it should just fly. I'm in total agreement, like

1333
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: these are physical six foot one to six foot three

1334
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: guys that run four four forties, So when they're running

1335
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: right next to each other, there's gonna be contact, and honestly,

1336
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a little pushing and shoving. You cannot

1337
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: call past interference or defensive holding on every big fucking

1338
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: play in my issue. And it feels like this for

1339
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: the last half decade, the amount of defensive penalties that

1340
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: are called on the secondary. Obviously, some are egregious and

1341
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: some have to be called, but it feels like more

1342
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: than not the majority of these calls, I would lean

1343
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: tiki tak like I get it back to the Alshire thing.

1344
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: When there is a big hit, people freak. That's kind

1345
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: of just the world we live in. Everything is like

1346
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: a overreaction. The alk Shire thing. Obviously, when you see

1347
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: the hit you go damn, and then after a while

1348
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: you're like, listen, it's football. He slid late, he hit

1349
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: him one in his shoulder. The guy got knocked out

1350
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: because he hit the ground. But I get it. It becomes

1351
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: a controversial issue. Why these defensive penalties are not more

1352
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: controversial for the NFL is insane. The amount of defensive

1353
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: holding in the red zone on like third and goal

1354
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: from the seven yard line, it's like automatic first down

1355
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: at the one and a half yard line. It's like,

1356
01:17:54,040 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: what are we doing? It's crazy. So I hear you,

1357
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: big fan of the pod. I was watching Penn State

1358
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: Oregon and the Big Ten Championship and thought Drew Aller

1359
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: possesses a lot of traits I'd like to see in

1360
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. Big arm, great arm, talent, good size,

1361
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: good enough athlete, just needs to refine some of his game.

1362
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm wondering what your thoughts are on him. I when

1363
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: Colin and I were talking about this, I know this.

1364
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: I would take Drew Aller every day of the week

1365
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: and one hundred times on Sunday before I would think

1366
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: about wasting any draft pick on Quin Yours or Carson Beck.

1367
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: So coming into the season, those two guys were talked

1368
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: about like number one overall picks. Obviously neither of them

1369
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: are now, but Drew Aller's pretty polarizing because he can

1370
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: be I would say a little hit or miss with accuracy,

1371
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: but in terms of his size, he made some explosive plays. Obviously,

1372
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 1: the last pass, the interception that lost them the game

1373
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: was pretty bad. There was a pass to Warren on

1374
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: the trick play where they had Warren line up a

1375
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 1: tackle and the tackle line up a slot receiver and

1376
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: Warren's wide open, and he just his accuracy is a

1377
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 1: little hit or miss. But listen, Josh Allen's accuracy was

1378
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 1: pretty shitty in college. Who else is pretty inaccurate Lamar Jackson.

1379
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: So if you can coach a guy up, you can

1380
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: improve that area of the game. From a toughness standpoint,

1381
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 1: from a playmaking standpoint, I was really impressed with Drew

1382
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: Aller in that game. Accuracy is something that is, like,

1383
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: to me, his biggest question mark. Assuming that he checks

1384
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: all the boxes, good guy, team leader, character is all good.

1385
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: I would find him as a very intriguing prospect. He's

1386
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: a risky one, though, you know, for every Josh Allen

1387
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: that works or Lamar Jackson who becomes very accurate in

1388
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: the pros and becomes a better player than they were

1389
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: in college. Lamar was the excellent player in college too.

1390
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,560
Speaker 1: Josh is probably the better example there. But Josh is

1391
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: playing at Wyoming. Like who's good at Wyoming? You know

1392
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 1: this guy is at Penn State. But Penn State doesn't

1393
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: have good wide receivers. His tight end is one good

1394
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: weapon in terms of the past game and those two dominate.

1395
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: So I hear you. I like Drew Aller a lot

1396
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: w VU fan. I think that means West Virginia. I

1397
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: was on campus for the Holgerson era, even stayed in

1398
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: a tent for a week to get in the college

1399
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: game day in twenty fourteen. While many of us were

1400
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 1: happy to see Dana leave, the Neil Brown era has

1401
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 1: been a massive step in the wrong direction. Now that

1402
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: he has been fired, what do you think West Virginia

1403
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: should go after? I know what Natty is probably out

1404
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: of the reach with our recruiting limitations, but I feel

1405
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 1: with the right coach, a Big Twelve championship is a

1406
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: reasonable goal. I think part of being a you know,

1407
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: a fan of a program like this, you've got to

1408
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: be realistic about your options and like you're not swimming

1409
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: in the deep end of the pier. Right, whoever the

1410
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart is, whoever? You know, like when Georgia hired

1411
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart from Alabama, whoever the top coordinator is, And

1412
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: you could argue, is there even really one right now?

1413
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, Kenny Dillingham is a super hot name. The

1414
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: problem is he's from here, and I don't think he's

1415
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: leaving right now. So you go, like Fresno State, who

1416
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: did they just hire this guy ens who was at

1417
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: USC but had coached at North Dakota State for a

1418
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 1: long time and won championships. So can you look at

1419
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: a program like app State is down and they fired

1420
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 1: their coach, but you know, a program like that and go,

1421
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: can we steal an up and comer like essentially what

1422
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: Nebraska did when they hired Scott Frost. Now again it backfired,

1423
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: But is there a situation like that? You know, Boise

1424
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: Washington State was really good to the last three weeks

1425
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: when they kind of imploded. Or do you go after

1426
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: a coordinator and you know, you look around, you go, well,

1427
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: who are Kirby's coordinators? You know, Bobo's offensive coordinator? You're

1428
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna hire Mike Bobo? You go, is uh, you know

1429
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: Alabama Ryan Grubb is is Debors guy, but he's at

1430
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: the Seahawks Ryan Day Michigan. Like, those programs don't really

1431
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: have a top guy. Could you hire a guy who's

1432
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: in a little trouble, right, like Luke Fickle? But it's like,

1433
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: is Luke Fickle a fit at West Virginia? I don't know.

1434
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't have a great answer for you. I know

1435
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: those jobs they're very specific. You know, you gotta find

1436
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: a guy who just works, you know. I don't know

1437
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: West Virginia that well in terms of like the type coaches,

1438
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 1: like who you guys are talking about on the message board.

1439
01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 1: But let's just use the west coast Washington State in

1440
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: Oregon State, I think are good examples if you get

1441
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: the right coach at those programs, like they can win

1442
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: nine ten games? What Oregon State do they hired Jonathan Smith? Now,

1443
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: granted Jonathan Smith was an alumni. When did Washington State

1444
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: really hit the ground run and get back on the

1445
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: map when they hired Mike Leach? Like I'd kind of

1446
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: go renegade, you know, when they hired Mike Leach, he

1447
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: had got fired for putting what's his name in the

1448
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: in the electrical tent, right, Craig James's kid. So I

1449
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: would try to just to me, West Virginia feels a

1450
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: little like a renegade program, you know, rich Rod Holgerson, Like,

1451
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: I need a guy a little close to the edge.

1452
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know who that like when I close

1453
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: my eyes, who fits that mold? There's not a guy

1454
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: that jumps out to me. I would say Lane Kiff

1455
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: and Wood, but like he's not leaving old myths for

1456
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: West Virginia, but like that version, give me a guy

1457
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: who kind of doesn't give a shit, you know, kind

1458
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 1: of like Bob Huggins. Holgerson, Rich Rod, I need a

1459
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: guy like you got a little bit of an uphill

1460
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 1: battle at a program like that. It's not a bad program,

1461
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: but you know you're at a disadvantage financially against the

1462
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: big boys. My question is, how are NFL scouts that

1463
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: are employed by NFL teams truly judged. It seems as

1464
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: though whenever a high profile college football player comes out

1465
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft, half the scouts through the media

1466
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 1: approved of his draft grading and half the scouts disapprove

1467
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 1: of his draft grading. At the end of the day

1468
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: or at the end of the year, how are scouts

1469
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: truly judged by their work performance. Also, what are your

1470
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: views on tattoos? I mean, I think some people obviously

1471
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: pull them off, well they I don't have any, but

1472
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't look good at them. I'm jealous of guys

1473
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: that can pull it off. So I would say I

1474
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: don't really have a view on tattoos, don't really care.

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01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: Not something that crosses my mind. But some people look

1476
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: bad with them. So I think your body type really matters.

1477
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,520
Speaker 1: Speaking as a guy, and I guess as a girl too,

1478
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 1: Like tattoos can look awesome and they can look terrible.

1479
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: I would say this. Let's use a salesman as an example.

1480
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,799
Speaker 1: If you work as a sales guy for a company,

1481
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: it's very easy to judge your performance. Or Maria, she's

1482
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: in real estate, Like, how much money do you generate

1483
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 1: this year? What was your last three quarters? If we

1484
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: have a quota, did you hit it? Did you fly

1485
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: by it? How much money are you bringing in, which

1486
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: then equates to how much money are you making you're

1487
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 1: incentivized to sell more? Right, was a scout? I think

1488
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 1: you're really judged on how close you are with the

1489
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: front office. So do the GM and the coach like you,

1490
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: because if they do in your sket and like your

1491
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: evaluations are kind of hit or miss, then it doesn't

1492
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: really matter and you will keep the job and you

1493
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: won't get fired. You could be and I've known a

1494
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: lot of these guys excellent evaluators, like really good, like

1495
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: ninety plus percent hit rate on your evaluations on pro

1496
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: and college players. And if a GM or a number two,

1497
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 1: you know, the assistant GM turn on you and don't

1498
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: like you for whatever reason, which is natural in any

1499
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: corporate setting. Just butt heads, we don't see eye to eye. Whatever,

1500
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: we don't get along, you're screwed. So it's sad because

1501
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 1: knowing how much time these guys put in, how much

1502
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 1: time you spend driving around school to school, how much

1503
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: energy and effort most guys put into this, it doesn't

1504
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: really matter how good you are. It really doesn't, you know.

1505
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 1: I think, unlike coaching, where it's very black and white,

1506
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: like this guy's a good position coach, look at his unit,

1507
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: this guy's a really good coordinator, look at his unit.

1508
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: In scouting, it's much more subjective, and to me, it

1509
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: mostly comes down to personality, like do you get along

1510
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: with the people you work with or not? Because if

1511
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: you do, you keep a job, which is kind of sad,

1512
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: but that's kind of how the NFL works. I've noticed

1513
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: throughout the season that a lot of teams tend to

1514
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: keep games low scoring for the first two quarters than

1515
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: offenses explode in the second half. Why is this? I noticed,

1516
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: for example, during the Browns Broncos game last Monday night,

1517
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: that Nick Chubb was essentially benched for the second quarter

1518
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: as they couldn't get him going. Then they utilized him

1519
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: more in the second half. Do teams adjust their game

1520
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:49,480
Speaker 1: plan for certain personnel at halftime, essentially scheming new plays

1521
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 1: for them to get more involved with the game plan.

1522
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: I forget who said this, It was a defensive coordinator

1523
01:27:56,120 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: in college, but he said what makes a good coordinat

1524
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: is when you think about the week. You spend all

1525
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: week game planning to get ready for that team's place,

1526
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: and then once the game starts, usually that team is

1527
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: running stuff you haven't seen, so it's kind of a

1528
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: feeling out process. But the reason you spent all that

1529
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 1: preparation as a coach and your staff coach the players

1530
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 1: up is because in the second half, that team then

1531
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 1: goes back to what they do. What they do because

1532
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: the first fifteen plays or the first quarter are usually

1533
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: plays that were created or schemes that were implemented that

1534
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: week to try to take advantage of that team, and

1535
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't work. It's why Like, usually if you

1536
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: watch a team's first drive in the NFL, or College

1537
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 1: is really good, you go right down the field. I

1538
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: think Kirk Cousins, they scored in their first drive Atlanta. Well,

1539
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,560
Speaker 1: why is that? Because I've developed the We've worked on

1540
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: aim Monday, Thursday, Friday, walk through them against Saturday. Sunday morning,

1541
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: I got up and I visualized him, so I have

1542
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: like mastered them. And then the game starts flowing and

1543
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: we just run normal plays and I either execute him.

1544
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm a good player or not. So I I clearly.

1545
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: People adjust And when you say adjust, you're constantly adjusting

1546
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 1: through the game. But you realize, hey, they are actually

1547
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: doing this. Let's morph to this right. Hey, they're actually

1548
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: not running the coverage that we thought we would see.

1549
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: They're blitzing this guy off the edge every other play.

1550
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: Let's hit him with these three things and you have

1551
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 1: more explosive. Hey, here's another thing. Their starting corner pulled

1552
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: his hamstring in the first quarter, their backup corner is

1553
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick who's not that fast, and we

1554
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: got Ceedee Lamb or Justin Jefferson attack that fucking guy.

1555
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: That happens a lot. So I think there are a

1556
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: lot of variables. I think every game is a little different,

1557
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 1: but I think you're onto something. Where would you rank

1558
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: Justin Fields today? Is he a starting quarterback or a

1559
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 1: backup quarterback in today's NFL? Also, if you were an

1560
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: NFL GM, would you take Fields or Minchew if you

1561
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:20,839
Speaker 1: had to take one to be on your team? Thanks

1562
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: and hope you are enjoying the good weather in Arizona

1563
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: from PA, I would say, I would say Justin Field's

1564
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: a backup. I would say Gardner Minshew as a backup

1565
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 1: as well. I think it depends who my team is, like,

1566
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 1: I think Justin Fields makes a ton of sense next year.

1567
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: Is the backup to like Lamar Jackson. I think he

1568
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense as the backup to like

1569
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray? Does Justin Fields make a lot of sense

1570
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: as the backup to Justin Herbert or Brock Purty or

1571
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: you know Matt Stafford not. I mean, as you see,

1572
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: how do they use them they run zone reads for them.

1573
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: Minshew has proven that he can come in and just

1574
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: run a normal offense for several games. If you name

1575
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 1: him your starting quarterback, you are screwed. One thing Fields

1576
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 1: can do is just run around. I mean, he is

1577
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: an elite athlete. I think they are very different players,

1578
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 1: but I think they're somewhat similar. Like if you start

1579
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: them consistently, you're not going to be a playoff team.

1580
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: Gardner can get hot for a game or two slinging around,

1581
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: but he also can look terrible. Fields can get hot

1582
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: for a game or two being a dual threat guy,

1583
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: but he also just can't consistently throw the ball. So

1584
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,520
Speaker 1: I think they're in the same world of being backup quarterbacks.

1585
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that, and Fields, because of his

1586
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: running ability, can play right Like you can implement some

1587
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,520
Speaker 1: running plays for him, which they do and it's effective.

1588
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: And hell, just at a last game they played, he

1589
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: had the game clinching play against the Bengals when they

1590
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: ran the zonn read and he ran for a first out.

1591
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm a big Georgia fan and wanted to hear your

1592
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 1: take on Carson Beck. Going into the season. I felt

1593
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 1: he had a real shot to be in the Heisman race,

1594
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 1: win an Addy, and be a top ten pick. The

1595
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 1: reality is he has had some nice moments, but hasn't

1596
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 1: been the guy Georgia fans were hoping or expected. Granted,

1597
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 1: our receiver play has been subpar and we haven't had

1598
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: a good run game for Georgia standards. Was curious if

1599
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 1: you can think of a player who went into a

1600
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: season with this much hype and fizzled out like this,

1601
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: Thanks and keep crushing. I look today, I haven't seen

1602
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: an update on his injury. In college. It's a little

1603
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: different than pros. He doesn't I don't think they have

1604
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 1: to come out and just acknowledge that he you know,

1605
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: he's out for the season or whatever. When I was scouting,

1606
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley was a guy who I think was viewed

1607
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: as a guy who was going to be the number

1608
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: one overall pick and then went back to school, had

1609
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: a down year and ended up I think being a

1610
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. Ironically, Lioner, who was still taken I

1611
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,679
Speaker 1: think in the top fifteen, but he was widely viewed

1612
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,879
Speaker 1: as the number one overall pick, went back to school.

1613
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: Now Liner, you know, they went to the national championship.

1614
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: He just lost to Vince Young in the Texas, so

1615
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 1: he had a good year. I think Carson beck one,

1616
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 1: I've been very critical of him, but if you won,

1617
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean losing Lad McConkie and Rock Bauers, I mean,

1618
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 1: those two guys are the best passing options on their

1619
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: two teams in the NFL. I mean those are high

1620
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: end players. I mean both guys. I mean Brett Bauer

1621
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: should be like a five time All Pro and mccaukee

1622
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 1: should be like Wes Welker in the NFL for a

1623
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: long time. So it's it's hard to replace that. And

1624
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 1: clearly their offensive line isn't that good. He had some moments.

1625
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the game. It was a

1626
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: couple of weeks after the Texas game where he just

1627
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 1: made some and you're like, Okay, you see some of

1628
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 1: the talent. But to me, like, to me, he looks

1629
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 1: like a backup quarterback in the NFL. He's kind of

1630
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: a weird looking cat. I mean, he's got he's got

1631
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 1: a weird look. You know. I like my quarterbacks to

1632
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 1: just kind of, i don't know, be normal looking. Uh.

1633
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 1: He's got a he's got the you know, the one

1634
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: arm sleeve. He's just kind of got a weird look

1635
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: going and obviously the play has been pretty shitty. But yeah,

1636
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean I I think he's lost a lot of

1637
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 1: money this year. There's no disputing that. Uh. And now

1638
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: if he's seriously injured, I mean you might be looking

1639
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: at you wouldn't I don't know. I mean I would say,

1640
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: if he needs Tommy John and he has to, could

1641
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 1: he be an undrafted free agent, could he go back

1642
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 1: to school? Would George even want him back. We'll see

1643
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:53,919
Speaker 1: how Gunner Stockton does in the playoffs, assuming that Carson's

1644
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: out and he's starter. But yeah, he just he just

1645
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 1: has looked really just rattled a lot of the time.

1646
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 1: He's got a great athlete, doesn't have a huge arm,

1647
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: so it's a lot of like he's closer to a

1648
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 1: Jared Goff type player than he is some dynamic playmaker.

1649
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 1: And the one thing with Jared Goff, you're like very

1650
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: comfortable in the pocket. You watch, Carson Beck has very

1651
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: hit or miss that way. It's not all his fault.

1652
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 1: Like you said, receivers play bad, offensive lines not great,

1653
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: running games not great. But it's like, yes, college football

1654
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 1: makes some plays. He's not really a playmaker other than that,

1655
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 1: appreciate everyone listening. We'll talk to you tomorrow, so you

1656
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 1: the volume