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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Fiream, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Thursday August. First, we got football tonight, the

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Speaker 2: preseason football better than nothing. You mixing that with a

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Speaker 2: little Olympics and boy, weekend's getting off to a rip,

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Speaker 2: roar and start. But we had fun action on the

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Speaker 2: hardwood in the Olympics on Wednesday. Oh yeah, my guy,

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Speaker 2: Jason Tatum back in the starting lineup. Solid night for Tatum.

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Speaker 2: And wouldn't you know it, as called on this here

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Speaker 2: podcast Monday, much to the scorn and derision of one

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Speaker 2: Rob g Joellembe did not play. Coach's decision. Did not play.

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Speaker 2: I actually predicted this Monday. I said it's not a

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Speaker 2: great matchup for it. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't play.

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Speaker 2: Now do my quick victory lap. Now the lap's over.

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Speaker 2: EMBIID obviously will start, according to Steve Kurr against Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 2: And just so you know, that's a slumpbuster. Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 2: They are not good. They just lost to Serbia by

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Speaker 2: forty one. Yo gets went off, the other bigs went off,

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Speaker 2: so EMBIID will go off. But USA one to oh

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Speaker 2: three South Sudan eighty six. No drama here, like the

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Speaker 2: exhibition matchup. USA came out early and was like, Yo,

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Speaker 2: we're ready, we're going ad in the starting lineup, Jason

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Speaker 2: Tatum in the starting lineup. UH and South Sudan never

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Speaker 2: really had a chance. I don't even think it got

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Speaker 2: to single to just once in the second half. And

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Speaker 2: you know, if you're looking for a hero, remember last game,

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Speaker 2: it was like, oh, Kevin Durrett came in and couldn't

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Speaker 2: miss in the first half, I would lean on bam

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Speaker 2: out of Bayo, who banged two corner threes eighteen and seven.

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Speaker 2: Bam out of Bio looks incredible. I mean, if you

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Speaker 2: are not an NBA fan and you're just you're like

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Speaker 2: watching the Olympics. And by the way, Rob, did you

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Speaker 2: see that the USA matchup on Sunday got like ten

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Speaker 2: million viewers. That's more than like some of the NBA

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Speaker 2: Finals games. I mean, people are tuned in. And if

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Speaker 2: you're just tuned in to US men's basketball and you

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Speaker 2: see bam Adebayo, You're like, who is this guy? He

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Speaker 2: defends centers, he passes, he rebounds, he blocks, he dunks

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Speaker 2: and Oh yeah, he can hit corner threes. That right

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Speaker 2: there is the modern NBA player, folks. Bam Adebayo looks sensational,

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Speaker 2: and the US rolled to victory. Lebron kind of turnover

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Speaker 2: prone Quiet twelve seven and five d Book with ten.

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Speaker 2: The bench is the story. The bench just came in

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Speaker 2: and obliterated South Sudan. Bam with eighteen KD fourteen, Aunt

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Speaker 2: Edwards thirteen. He had a nice rip and dunk at

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Speaker 2: the end of the game. That was pretty sweet. Derek

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Speaker 2: White with ten. The US had thirteen steals. That's being

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Speaker 2: locked in defensively. They did not cover the spread. I

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Speaker 2: told you I liked him to win. I didn't twenty

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Speaker 2: eight twenty nine. I'm sorry, guys. You know that out

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Speaker 2: of principle, I cannot lay four touchdowns with the USA

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Speaker 2: against South Sudan. That being said, at least there's no

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Speaker 2: drama in this one. I think given the way that

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Speaker 2: Tatum drama built after the first game, my guess is

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Speaker 2: that's why Kurk came out. Essentially in the postgame was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Joel Embido will be starting in the next game against

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Speaker 2: Puerto Rico and be the only guy who did not play,

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Speaker 2: and I don't like how this has become a thing

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Speaker 2: who's not playing, who's playing the leaseman. I just I

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Speaker 2: don't like that as a narrative excws negative when this

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Speaker 2: is an utterly dominant team and the fact that Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry continues to struggle and they're still dominating. Curry was

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Speaker 2: rough on both ends. He did have four assists, only

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Speaker 2: one of nine, shooting zero for six from three. Maybe

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Speaker 2: he had a bad lights night's sleep, you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: he's just not feeling the ball. Whatever it is, Curry's

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Speaker 2: struggling and they're still dominating. I mean, Rob, there's really

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Speaker 2: nothing to pick apart here. I think the only thing

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Speaker 2: I would look at is Kerr and massaging some of

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Speaker 2: these egos because I'm telling you, if it's a nip

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Speaker 2: and tuck game with Germany or France or Serbia around

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Speaker 2: these minutes for Derek White and dru Holliday. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Drew Holiday had been starting now coming off the bench.

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Speaker 2: He's really mixing it up, which is good. But when

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Speaker 2: it gets to as Rob likes to say nut cutting time.

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Speaker 2: I think at that point you got to kind of

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Speaker 2: against South Student they didn't need more in the opener

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Speaker 2: against Serbia, I think he was like at twenty seven minutes,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, no need to force guys. I think Puerto

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Speaker 2: Rico will be a blowout. Do you also be heavily favored?

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Speaker 2: And part of me wonders, we haven't seen them play

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Speaker 2: Puerto Rico in the run up at least I don't

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Speaker 2: there is a bit of an unknown with with Puerto Rico,

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Speaker 3: A good unknown.

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Speaker 2: They're just they're not a really good team. The only

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Speaker 2: two NBA guys I recognize are Jose Alvarado and the

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Speaker 2: kid Waters, who was I believe somewhere in the SEC

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Speaker 2: and then I think he was had a cup of

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Speaker 2: coffee with the Celtics. But overall the Puerto Rico team

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Speaker 2: is just is not very strong, and with the oh

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Speaker 2: and two start for them, you wonder if they kind

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Speaker 2: of start hot. Maybe if you if you're looking for action,

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Speaker 2: you lookan Puerto Rico first quarter, they come out with

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Speaker 2: a chip on the shoulder, the US is like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we advanced, and then the US blitz is them later.

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Speaker 2: But overall I'm happy rob no drama with USA men's basketball.

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Speaker 4: Jason, I know that you're a fan of movies. Do

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Speaker 4: you remember in the movie Dumb and Dumber when Jim

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Speaker 4: Carrey's character says, yeah, that John Denver was full of

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Speaker 4: crap man. The thing they're driving through the Rockies, it's

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Speaker 4: not the Rockies. I'm going to amend that quote here

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Speaker 4: on August first, that's Steve Kurrz full of crap man

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Speaker 4: because all of those excuses that he gave for benching

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Speaker 4: Jason Tatum. He said, you know, I felt like an idiot.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not to think about JT. It's about matchups,

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Speaker 4: and you know, realistically, in a forty minute game, you

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Speaker 4: can't play more than ten guys. And then flash forward

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Speaker 4: to Wednesday, Jason Tatum starts, so it seems like the

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Speaker 4: internet kind of bullied him into making sure that Tatum

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Speaker 3: Number two.

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Speaker 4: They played eleven guys in the first half of that game,

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Speaker 4: so obviously the whole thing about only being able to

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Speaker 4: play ten is wrong, and number three, he said he

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Speaker 4: felt like an idiot because he should have found a

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Speaker 4: the reason we didn't play Joel Embiid is because they're

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Speaker 4: wanted to switch a lot of actions. So that's why

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Speaker 4: we couldn't play em Beid. I wasn't an idiot this

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Speaker 4: time for not playing Embiid. I was being so smart

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Speaker 4: because I wanted to play different kind of defense. And

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Speaker 4: yet his argument is they're a fast team. We wanted

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Speaker 4: to switch and stay in front of people. Yeah, Jason,

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Speaker 4: who is the worst defender on team USA basketball?

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Speaker 2: It's it's not a perimeter defender.

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Speaker 4: Yes, who is the worst perimeter defender? Joe, you want

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Speaker 4: to switch every action? Joell Eenbiz the center.

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Speaker 3: So you're not gonna say who is the.

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Speaker 4: Worst defensive wing player or front line player defender.

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Speaker 2: You bully me into saying Steph Curry.

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Speaker 3: It's Steph Curry.

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Speaker 4: Steph Curry is the worst perimeter defender, Steph curR. If

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Speaker 4: you're gonna run a switching and staying in front of

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Speaker 4: people type defense, Steph Curry is not the guy to

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Speaker 4: be out there, however, again because he plays for Steve

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Speaker 4: Kurkr for the Warriors, because Steve Kerr is a politician

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Speaker 4: at heart.

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Speaker 3: Check some of his political leanings.

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Speaker 4: He definitely puts that kind of stuff out there, whether

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Speaker 4: you agree disagree, He's very much into that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Steph Curry, despite.

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Speaker 4: Shooting one for nine from the field and being a

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Speaker 4: general turnstyle defensively, he had four fouls and played over

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Speaker 4: almost twenty two minutes. He was third most on the

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Speaker 4: team behind Devin Booker and Kevin Durant in minutes. Steph

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Speaker 4: Curry is out there because he has a reputation for

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Speaker 4: being a great shooter defensively is not where his bread

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Speaker 4: gets buttered. And yet Steph Curry in this tournament so

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Speaker 4: far through two games is shooting twenty nine percent overall,

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Speaker 4: twenty three percent from three. Devin Booker, who is a

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Speaker 4: better defender than Steph Curry, is shooting seventy one percent

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Speaker 4: from three. Anthony Edwards, who is a better defender than

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Speaker 4: Steph Curry, is shooting fifty seven percent from three, Derek

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Speaker 4: White the same thing, fifty seven percent from three, and

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Speaker 4: Drew Holliday, who is the best defender of the bunch

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Speaker 4: is shooting fifty percent from three. Why Steve Kerr, if

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Speaker 4: the plan for this lineup that he trotted out there

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Speaker 4: was about switching and playing good defense. Was Steph Curry

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Speaker 4: the worst defender on the team getting the most minutes.

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Speaker 4: Steve curR is just gonna say whatever he has to

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Speaker 4: say to keep guys like you and Colin and Steven A.

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Speaker 4: Smith and Chris Brussard and whoever your favorite nick right,

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Speaker 4: whoever your guy is in the media, to keep him

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Speaker 4: most inconsistent, laughable rec league coaching I've ever seen at

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Speaker 4: this level.

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Speaker 2: Who was the coach of the ninety two Dream Team?

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Speaker 2: Was it Chuck Daily?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chuck Daily didn't have to deal with this, didn't

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Speaker 2: have to deal with Rob g coming off the top

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Speaker 2: off and put on social and it goes. Chuck Daily

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Speaker 2: did not have to deal with this rotational minutia man,

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Speaker 2: Rob That is harsh, Yes, Yeh is Steph Curry struggling? Yes,

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Speaker 2: through two games, he's not been great in the exhibition,

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Speaker 2: he was not phenomenal. We know they're attacking him defensively.

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Speaker 2: Got it. He's Steph Curry, you know, all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden reduce him to like eight minutes just because he's

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Speaker 2: struggling a little bit. It's Steph freakin' Curry, a top

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Speaker 2: fifteen player in the history of the sport, who despite

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Speaker 2: not playing that way in the first couple of games here,

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Speaker 2: Remember he doesn't have a ton of FEBA experience. Lebron

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Speaker 2: does kdi? Does? I mean hell Ant was doing this

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Speaker 2: last summer. I don't. This might be Steph's first FEBA experience,

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Speaker 2: maybe since way way, way, way way back. I have

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Speaker 2: to look it up, but I don't know. It just

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Speaker 2: seems like he's still kind of a sort of adjusting

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Speaker 2: and it's taking some time. Luckily, he's getting the ugliness

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Speaker 2: with Curry, he is one made shot away from getting

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Speaker 2: incendiary and just taking a blow towards to the opposing team.

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Speaker 2: And there's even moments out now. Listen, this happened in

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Speaker 2: the first one, but Curry made like a went under

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Speaker 2: screeners drew holiday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The opponents are so terrified of Curry catching fire. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, they're clearly afraid of Kevin Durant because

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Speaker 2: if you notice, he got fouled a lot more eight

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Speaker 2: of nine from the free throw line for Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 2: only two of five shooting. They were hugging him up.

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Speaker 4: There was some audio that came out from a podcast

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Speaker 2: All Right, I've been reluctant to fire this bullet because listen,

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Speaker 2: go through the guys you named Luka Doncic, European basketball

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Speaker 2: player barely ever dunks, Okay, no swag, well no, yes, no,

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Speaker 2: yes swag. He just doesn't dunk. He talks a lot

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Speaker 2: let's do Anthony Edwards. The most iconic moment in the

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Speaker 2: Trash talk checks all the boxes. He looks like Michael

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Speaker 2: with Anthony Edwards. It's just it's a weird thing where

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Speaker 2: Anthony for sure. Carmelo Anthony, I'm sorry, team success. Carmelo

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Speaker 2: Anthony is scoring machine, but team's success. Mellow was always

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Speaker 2: Can he do that? And like, listen, Michael Jordan wasn't

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Speaker 2: I don't know, We'll see. I don't know. Does that

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Speaker 4: international players. Like Rudy Gobert is a multiple time Defensive

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Speaker 4: Player of the Year. He's not going to be a

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Speaker 4: first buy Hall of Famer, and the way that Draymond

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Speaker 4: Green and Shaq and others talk about him, you would

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Speaker 4: think that he's some scrub at the end of the bench,

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Speaker 4: right Nikola Jokic and Luka Doncic. Probably in any other

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Speaker 4: if this or any other sport of this was football baseball,

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Speaker 4: they would be the marquee guys as the face of

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Speaker 4: the league. Like, those would be the guys that we

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Speaker 4: would be selling because they're both at the top of

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Speaker 4: their games, they're in their prime, and their teams win

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Speaker 4: a lot for the most part. I think what you're

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Speaker 4: kind of getting into a little bit as well, though,

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Speaker 4: is Anthony Edwards may have replaced like Kiro re Irving

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Speaker 4: as your favorite player's favorite player, Like there's just something

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Speaker 4: about him and his style and the way he goes

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Speaker 4: about things. You know you're seeing it on display here

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Speaker 4: in the Olympics, where he's the guy getting the pickpockets

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Speaker 4: and the dunks, and he's jawing at the crowd, even

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Speaker 4: though I don't think half the crowd even might even

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Speaker 4: know who he is, because all these arenas are played

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Speaker 4: in like an Aau style gym, and it's all these

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Speaker 4: different countries, and I don't know how much they follow

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Speaker 4: the Minnesota Timberwolves. But he's taking it upon himself to be,

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Speaker 4: you know, the big bad so to speak. So I think,

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Speaker 4: like you said, American born athletes and American fans and

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Speaker 4: American media members, you know, it's it. Maybe it's just

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Speaker 4: a subconscious pride thing, like no, we're not giving it

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Speaker 4: up to the Europeans, we're not giving it up to

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Speaker 4: international guys, because we have this guy and he's our guy,

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Speaker 4: and so we're gonna maybe even over shower him with

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Speaker 4: praise because he's the one we're gonna ride with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like your favorite players player, wait, your favorite

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Speaker 2: player's favorite player. Sorry, yeah, to get that right, But yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what it feels like with D'Angelo Russell. Like D'Angelo

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Speaker 2: Russell is all about the drip and the swag and

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Speaker 2: the ice in my veins. That's his celebration, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's all about that. Is he a winning player? Has

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Speaker 2: he ever been.

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Speaker 4: Lit?

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Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that, dude, do your thing, celebrate,

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Speaker 2: show out. I would prefer to win, and I want

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Speaker 2: the guy who's gonna win, And if it's Tatum or

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Speaker 2: Aunt Edwards, I for now, now you could argue tat

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Speaker 2: him as a better team. They got three Celtics on

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Speaker 2: the Olympic team, whereas there's just one from Minnesota. Well,

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Speaker 2: actually two, I guess with Rudy Gobert actually Carla day Towns.

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Speaker 2: What's in he?

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Speaker 3: I think he was with like the Dominican Republic.

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Speaker 2: For a r but I don't think they call it that.

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Speaker 2: You're right, So technically Minnesota has three and the Celtics

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Speaker 2: have three and Jaylen Brown kind of got snubbed or

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Speaker 2: whatever you want, So I don't know. I mean, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I still would lean. Who would I rather build around?

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Speaker 2: I would build around Jason Tatum over? And who would

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Speaker 2: you do.

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Speaker 4: Jason Tatum because his is more is established like everything. Again,

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to disparage Anthony Edward. Anthony Edwards is great,

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Speaker 4: He's awesome, but as we've said on this podcast for

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Speaker 4: months now, going back to the NBA Finals, everything that

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Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards is currently doing, Jason Tatum has already done.

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Speaker 4: Jason Tatum as a rookie, I believe, dunked on Lebron

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Speaker 4: James in an Eastern Conference Finals game. He pushed Lebron

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Speaker 4: James at the height of his powers to Game seven

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Speaker 4: with a young team missing half of their best players.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, this is not a knock on Anthony Edwards,

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Speaker 4: It's just it's weird to me. And maybe we've kind

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Speaker 4: of figured this out during this conversation. How we decide

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Speaker 4: who's gonna be the guy that.

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Speaker 3: We're going to rally behind?

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Speaker 4: Well, who's we or that's a good question, the athletes,

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Speaker 4: the media.

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Speaker 2: I think without question that there is going to be

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Speaker 2: a push to rally around an American star, especially when

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Speaker 2: Europeans are taking over. I know, what is that called

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Speaker 2: when you're so pro American that you don't uh. I

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Speaker 2: can't believe it's facing on the word. You hear it

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Speaker 2: all the time at the Olympics. Stam it. If I

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Speaker 2: come up with it, I'll say it. But it definitely

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Speaker 2: feels like there is a push Hey, this is not

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Speaker 2: turning into a European league. Even though the league is

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Speaker 2: heavily international, We've still got the good Americans. Meanwhile, American

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Speaker 2: guys are getting rubbed out, left rubbed out. American guys

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Speaker 2: are struggling. Let's see what happens with Daalen Green in Houston.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be a big test case because he's got

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Speaker 2: all of it. I think he's got the celebrity girlfriend, right,

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Speaker 2: didn't he gets some super famous Instagram model pregnant, and

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Speaker 2: he's scored a lot of points, didn't make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: doesn't pass great, doesn't board, but could get buckets like

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Speaker 2: we'll see what become like. That's he is a young

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Speaker 2: American player in that he's the antithesis of some of

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Speaker 2: these international players who are team first fundamentals over dunks

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Speaker 2: and just give me points points points.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that's fair. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: know what's funny is for all of this discourse and

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Speaker 4: this conversation as adulation for Anthony Edwards, He's not without controversy.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't he the one who God, I hope I'm right

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Speaker 4: about this. He was the one who was had some

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Speaker 4: tweets or some texts leaked out where he was asking

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Speaker 4: a woman to prove that the kid was his and

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Speaker 4: that she should get an abortion or something like that.

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Speaker 3: That's possible.

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Speaker 2: I might have missed that, and you know, oh, yes,

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Speaker 2: here it is Anthony Edwards in one hundred k abortion

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Speaker 2: scandal after texts exposed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he all he says, you know, it

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Speaker 4: was a heat of the moment type thing, and then

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Speaker 4: like everyone forgot about it and last I checked. Depending

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Speaker 4: on what side of the aisle you're on, abortion is

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Speaker 4: like a really hot topic. And it's kind of surprising

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Speaker 4: that that didn't become a bigger story because again, people

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Speaker 4: have decided that we like Anthony Edwards and we're not

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Speaker 4: gonna dwell on that stuff.

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting. John Morant, American star, a lot of controversies.

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Speaker 2: Zion Williamson, don't make me bring up the strippers and

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Speaker 2: baby daddies and all the stuff he's been doing. Now,

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Speaker 2: this Anthony Edwards thing, these young American guys they got listen,

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Speaker 2: they got to clean it up and they can and listen,

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Speaker 2: Magic Johnson went through stuff. Obviously, plenty of stuff back

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Speaker 2: in the day with the Lakers. It happens to young

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Speaker 2: athletes a lot of money. It happens in all sports, NFL, NBA, baseball, soccer.

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Speaker 2: I just hope Edwards can keep it together, because man,

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Speaker 2: he is. I just like watching him when he's got

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Speaker 2: the ball. It's not quite Stiff Gury level, but I

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Speaker 2: do really enjoy watching Anthony Edwards. So goodwin for the US.

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Speaker 2: They are back at I don't even think I have

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Speaker 2: the Puerto Rican game in my calendar. Do you even

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Speaker 2: know when that is?

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Speaker 1: Rob?

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Speaker 2: Oh? No, it's Saturday morning at eight fifteen am. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning, eight fifteen Pacific against Puerto Rico. The US win.

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Speaker 2: But before then we got football tonight. Enjoy the whole

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Speaker 2: of Fame game. This will be the last weekend approaching

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Speaker 2: without football for I think five months, five and a

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Speaker 2: half months until the Super Bowl, right, because we got

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Speaker 2: college football start. We got preseason college football, NFL bowl games,

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Speaker 2: whatever you want, college football playoff, NFL playoffs. Oh, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be so good. Just get ready.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you tomorrow