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Speaker 1: Chris west Link podcast studio, it's Around the NFL Week

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Speaker 1: fourteen recap. Dan Hands is here, Heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmm, Yes, that's Dan camp That's one of the

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Speaker 1: many great Dan Campbell quotes from Hard Knocks over the summer.

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Speaker 1: And Um, we are making history here on today's show

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Speaker 1: for the first time, and this is our tenth season.

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Speaker 1: So somebody do the math. How many Sunday shows have

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Speaker 1: we done to be you know one? You know, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's say one, seventy, let's let's split the difference, three

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Speaker 1: and twelve. Okay, we've done three, twelve and and we

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Speaker 1: have never led with the Detroit lines. What never? I mean,

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Speaker 1: why would we? They've always been bad? Um for the

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Speaker 1: most part. There was one playoff season in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Uh was it? What game they got screwed? Was des caught? It?

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Speaker 1: Game was the next week with the Lions got screwed

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Speaker 1: in the Cowboys win a long time ago. Point being,

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Speaker 1: and yet today's show we have a bunch of interesting

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Speaker 1: subplots and leagues storylines in the playoff race heating up,

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Speaker 1: and because the lines are right in the middle of that,

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Speaker 1: that's where we're gonna start today. Well it's about time.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm enthused by the by the decision that you

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Speaker 1: finally get on board first in this show. Even last

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Speaker 1: week I was singing their song. And I think they're

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Speaker 1: one of the most interesting developments in the entire conference

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Speaker 1: so far, becoming like one of the stories of the league.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to be welcoming and interest to the

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Speaker 1: rest of the football world as they catch up to

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Speaker 1: our love that we've had for their Lions. I think that, yes,

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Speaker 1: we're bathing in that. And why do we Before we

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Speaker 1: the apa mentioned Detroit Lions, let's go back to hard

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Speaker 1: knocks and and here from Dan Campbell, there is nothing

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Speaker 1: like winning. And I'm telling you right now, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter if it's freaking dominoes, it's pages, it's bouret, it's

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Speaker 1: Croquet's chest, it's preseason kicking. It does not matter. Man.

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Speaker 1: Winning is winning, and it feels good. Man, winning is

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Speaker 1: winning and it feels good. And the Lions, the two

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Speaker 1: thousand two Detroit Lions, cannot stop winning. They're addicted. Emotion

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Speaker 1: come on, Mark, go baby team te hell, this is

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Speaker 1: They welcome the Minnesota Vikings into their building, the ten

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Speaker 1: them in a thirty four twenty three win. Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: once again has a big game, including an opening scoring

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Speaker 1: background on that play to school that had the Detroit

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Speaker 1: because it just outlines how aggressive this team is even

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Speaker 1: now and that's why they keep winning. They keep making

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Speaker 1: different types of ways, and they're winning games convincingly. They

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Speaker 1: And now this game happens Mark and it's like, yes,

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Speaker 1: they're tenant three once again. They can't clinch their division,

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Speaker 1: but they will clinch the division. But they're just a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions with that team in terms of the

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins on any level. They're like the only ten

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Speaker 1: and three team to have ever had a negative point

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Speaker 1: diferential at this point. I mean, so they kind of

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Speaker 1: but they're a bad defense, and so that's what I

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Speaker 1: think is really worrisome. They're extly safe, like they try

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Speaker 1: maybe we need to. He moved pretty well today. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, Shanahan falls in love with these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: He just falls so hard for these guys. Yeah and

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Speaker 1: he and this is all this all comes off remarkably

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Speaker 1: good for Shanahan, who's obviously has a great reputation. But

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Speaker 1: to be able to keep this season a float, and

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Speaker 1: not just a float, but the offense thriving on his

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Speaker 1: third quarterback speaks to what he's built with of course

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Speaker 1: John Lynch and the rest of the organization. All right,

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Speaker 1: so there you go. Those are two big games to

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Speaker 1: get things go. And let's take a break and then

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Speaker 1: we will continue on week fourteen. All right, we are

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Speaker 1: back the Buffalo Bills. Last week they sat and watched

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Speaker 1: from home as they went from the five seed to

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Speaker 1: the one seed in the a f C. They have

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Speaker 1: destiny in their hands now they just gotta take care

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Speaker 1: of business, and they did that today in Western New

446
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Speaker 1: York against my Jets. They're still in shotgun. Josh's takes

447
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: the snap and John and he gives it to Josh

448
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: keeping himself and he drives forward and he's in touchdown.

449
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: Buffalo Josh Hall and take the handoff and ran forward

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Speaker 1: for the five yard touchdown run. Where do we stand

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Speaker 1: on announcers calling players by their first name? Oh Josh, Hey,

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Speaker 1: oh Josh has it. It's probably a little like homer Ish,

453
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Speaker 1: But for some of these announcing crews, like I'm not

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Speaker 1: taking shots, I don't love it. Some names just asked

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Speaker 1: for it, Like Tiki Barber was always just Tikifer. If

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Speaker 1: I had the choice that for multiple reasons, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm skeptical like you or else you would have asked

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Speaker 1: the question it's overly friendly, um, John Murphy and Eric

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Speaker 1: Wood with the called w g R slick cold rain,

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Speaker 1: snow conditions UM in Buffalo and the New York and

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills took care of business by leaning on

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Speaker 1: a defense that was without, as we know, von Miller

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. Now after that exploratory

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Speaker 1: surgery led to an a c L repair, but they

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Speaker 1: didn't look like a team that was missing von Miller

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Speaker 1: against the Jets, uh, getting after Mike White beating up

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Speaker 1: Mike White, sending Mike White to the hospital in an

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Speaker 1: ambulance after the game as a precaution. Uh. And it

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Speaker 1: was that Bill's pass rush that allowed them to take

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Speaker 1: a twenty to twelve win. And uh so not a

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Speaker 1: dominant effort by Buffalo's offense. In fact, I believe they

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Speaker 1: finished under three hundred yards, which I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that has happened uh this season. So that Jet defense,

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Speaker 1: which has been good all year, although they lost Quinnin

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Speaker 1: Williams to a calf injury today and we're gonna see

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Speaker 1: if he's gonna miss extended time. That would be a

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Speaker 1: alert for them. They've had their fair share of injuries

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Speaker 1: this year. Um, but Buffalo uh, despite not having the offense,

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Speaker 1: this proved again to me boys that yes, they are

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Speaker 1: a complete team and their ability to get after the

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Speaker 1: quarterback led by ed Oliver Matt Milano, that front seven

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Speaker 1: did their job and that's why they won this game.

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Speaker 1: Shock Lawson too, I mean that was that was my

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Speaker 1: takeaway as well as that the von Miller injury to me,

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Speaker 1: kind of separated what I thought they could achieve and

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Speaker 1: now it's like, if you can do this, because when

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Speaker 1: I was watching this, it seems like they just dominated

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Speaker 1: New York's offensive line and made life so tough on

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Speaker 1: Mike White, who is one of the tougher dudes. He

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Speaker 1: he did not want to go out and I can

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Speaker 1: see why they why the Jets players love Mike White,

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Speaker 1: and I do wonder what will happen with him going forward.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is he gonna be healthy enough to play

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Speaker 1: next week? You think yeah? I mean the fact that

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Speaker 1: he was knocked out of the game twice by just

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Speaker 1: wicked shots, including the second by Milano where Tony Romo

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Speaker 1: called the game for CBS. Was just as a guy

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Speaker 1: who was a quarterback, who's this happened to him? He's like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's not coming back, he's got broken rings. And

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Speaker 1: and yet he does go back to the locker room

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Speaker 1: and he does come back. And I've said this with

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Speaker 1: other in other situations, the charges with Herbert earlier in

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Speaker 1: the season when he had his own rib issue. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think Mike White should have been back in that

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Speaker 1: game because he couldn't protect himself. And you could see

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Speaker 1: that for the rest of the game, even when they

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Speaker 1: weren't big shots. Every time he went down you could hear.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't necessarily hear him, but you could see in

509
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Speaker 1: the replays that he would like scream out in pain

510
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Speaker 1: or just the win sing, and it was just it

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Speaker 1: was a tough watch, um, but also easy to respect

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Speaker 1: the guy that was hanging in the pocket. But uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Jets are a team now. They've lost four of

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Speaker 1: six quietly, and we could keep saying that they hang

515
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Speaker 1: tough against these teams, but you gotta what happened with

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Speaker 1: the Jets is once you blow those two Patriots games,

517
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Speaker 1: they gotta go find a win now to make up

518
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Speaker 1: for that. And they should have beat the Vikings last

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Speaker 1: week and then let Minnesota off the hook. This game

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Speaker 1: was more like there were opportunities, But I just credit

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Speaker 1: the Bills. Their Bills are a better team further along

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Speaker 1: in the development, and I think that's what you saw here.

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00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: The Flacco fumble, Uh the Michael Carr can't see Flacco

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Speaker 1: on the field again now and what someone's gotta explained

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Speaker 1: to me. I understand the Zach Wilson drama of it all,

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Speaker 1: but why is Zach Wilson inactive? Is there more to

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Speaker 1: the story. But I don't need to go watch Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco every time the past rushes on him and he

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Speaker 1: every time he gets hit, and he gets hit almost

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Speaker 1: every time he drops back to past, it's a fumble.

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Speaker 1: I literally they're protecting. I think Zach Wilson's like fragile

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Speaker 1: psychology right now. That's a damning indictment. If he's not

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback next week, I don't know. We'll see

534
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Speaker 1: about White and it's all gonna depend on how he

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Speaker 1: feels in the morning and what comes back from this.

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Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, the Jets, to their credit, they did

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Speaker 1: hang in this game. They got block punt uh to

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Speaker 1: get it within one score. They marched down into Bill's

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Speaker 1: territory with a chance to really make things interesting before

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Speaker 1: Michael Carter fumble. But again credit to the Bills and

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Speaker 1: their defense. The offense is a little up and down

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Speaker 1: for the Bills right now, and that's just something that's

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Speaker 1: been the case for a while. I mean, Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: has been like essentially sort of average for about four

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Speaker 1: weeks in an other the weather is crazy in this game,

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Speaker 1: right so so you keep that in mind. But two

547
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Speaker 1: thirty two yards, you know, getting out gained by the

548
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Speaker 1: Jets by seventy yards is surprising in but also I

549
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: think if you're Sean mc dermott, rather probably very satisfying

550
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Speaker 1: because he's a defensive coach. He los Von Miller, you

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Speaker 1: lose Micah Hide two of their three I would say

552
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: most valuable players on their defense, along with Milano, who's

553
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Speaker 1: playing out of his mind. And you still get all

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Speaker 1: this pressure with Rousseau is having a great season, Trevious

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Speaker 1: Whites now back, and in the mixed players having a

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Speaker 1: nice season. You're getting pastors with Ed Oliver. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you, Dan, which defense you think it is

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Speaker 1: better here? Jets are Bills. I think it's pretty close.

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Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, they both played really well.

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Speaker 1: That the jetson now scored only two touchdowns in the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks. So they're having some issues right now

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Speaker 1: with White. But if he's healthy, there's no controversy. I

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Speaker 1: think he's still going to be the guy for them.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's a stat by the way, um, the Mike

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Speaker 1: White was pressured on forty six point seven percent of

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Speaker 1: dropbacks with just four rushers. So the Bills did their

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Speaker 1: job and the Jets have to figure out some things

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Speaker 1: on offense here that because they were not competitive on

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Speaker 1: offense for stretches of this game, because they could not

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Speaker 1: protect the quarterback, they couldnot pass protect, and the running

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Speaker 1: game has not been the same. I know Bam Knight

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00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: has been very good for them in the last few weeks,

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Speaker 1: but it's never really recovered from Breeze Hall. So they

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Speaker 1: gotta they just gotta find some ways to get out

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Speaker 1: of this. They gotta beat the lines next week. Just

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Speaker 1: like we said, the lines had to win today and

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Speaker 1: they did. I think they Jets have to beat the

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Speaker 1: lines at the Metal ends next you and I'd say

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Speaker 1: after that, the Jaguars are becoming spice here by the hour.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got seat. You're at Seattle and at Miami.

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Speaker 1: If you're the Jets to close the season, that is

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Speaker 1: a rugged little slate. I gotta win three or four

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Speaker 1: and uh, that's just the way it is. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the Chargers and the Patriots behind them,

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00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: that's not a fearsome duo there. But you gotta start

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Speaker 1: winning again. So the Bills get it done up. Next,

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Speaker 1: let's move on. Gotta move on, and I will move

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Speaker 1: on to the other New York Times New York team

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00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: from the metal Lands area northern New Jersey. Technically they

590
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: welcomed in the best team in football, and it went

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Speaker 1: as you might expect. Sanders stays in this time he

592
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: breaks away at the thirty five thirty five fish ten

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Speaker 1: five s Wow, hold are you kidding me? Jack dryst

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Speaker 1: who gets a great block mouse Sanders getty outside. It's

595
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: just a foot race and he out runs the entire

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Speaker 1: Giants definch to the pylon and into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Listen to that crowd at the metal Lands. Oh they

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Speaker 1: were they were doing from start to finish. Reality has

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00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: set in. Meryl Reese and Mike Quick from w I

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Speaker 1: P Yes, my, it was another big game on the

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Speaker 1: ground for the Eagles, who just blow teams away. Miles

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Speaker 1: Sanders ran for one four and touchdowns of three and

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00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: that forty yard score. He's over a thousand yards rushing.

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Speaker 1: And then Jalen Hurts, who has been the best football

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Speaker 1: quarterback in football this year. He threw two more touchdowns

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Speaker 1: ran for another, and the Eagles romp mark two over

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00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: those fading Men who have one win in six weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the g Men at one point, or a pet team

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00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: of mine. I found it enjoyable just to watch good

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00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: giants football. Well coached. Pet teams aren't doing too well.

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00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: They are not. It's like they are not cemetary over there.

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00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: It is very close to that. Well, I don't I also,

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Speaker 1: when I adopt a pet team in this season, particularly,

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Speaker 1: I don't have to stick with them forever. So I'm

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00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: with you. For those team's sake, it's better that you

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Speaker 1: get off as quickly as possible. I do seem to

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00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: have an ill effect on them. Uh, I would agree

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00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: with you, But this was an enjoyable game to watch.

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Speaker 1: Um just for the nature of Philadelphia is utterly explosive,

620
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: unstoppable offense. I mean they do. We've talked about they

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00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: do it differently every week, and today they came out

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Speaker 1: and I think made it so clear the difference between

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Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Giants. And I don't care about

624
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: the records or anything. It's just like they Jalen Hurts

625
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: is playing beautiful football right now, and their offense is

626
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: so well coordinated. Opening touchdown drive of twelve plays ninety

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00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: one yards, five plus minutes, the second drive fourteen eighty

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00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: four yards eight plus minutes, and they were unstoppable, running

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Speaker 1: for huge chunks of yardage at a time, deep passes

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00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: unfurled beautifully. Then the Giants down fourteen nothing. I thought,

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00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I'll say like game over, and it's

632
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: not always in the fourth quarter that that happens. They

633
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: botched a punt and the Eagles picked it up at

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Speaker 1: the Giants thirty three and essentially, next play laser to

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Speaker 1: A J. Brown. It's twenty one nothing. And there is

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Speaker 1: no there is no shred of evidence that the Giants,

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00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: who are not yeah they're not the Giant, do not

638
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: come from behind tony one nothing against anyone in this league.

639
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: And sae Quon Barkley has not been sae Quon Barkley

640
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: for weeks on end now, Daniel Jones is in a

641
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: tough spot in the situation. They are kind of an

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00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: empty cupboard when it comes to weapons, and that's how

643
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Speaker 1: you get absolutely your doors blown off at home and

644
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: you're right, that crowd was dismayed and agitated. Well, this

645
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: game is over. The second you heard, you know, the

646
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Speaker 1: se Juon Barkley neck injury that popped up late in

647
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Speaker 1: the week, and then the report before the game that

648
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: you proved to be true that he was only going

649
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: to be limited in the game plan. It's like, oh

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Speaker 1: if he, if sae Quon Barkley is limited in this

651
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Speaker 1: game plan, why even why even show up to play?

652
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: And you know what, the Giants didn't really show up,

653
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Dadaly So well, that fourth and seven where the Eagles

654
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: decide to go for and DeVonta Smith makes a terrific

655
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: touchdown catch that's the beginning of the second quarter to

656
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: go up fourteen nothing. It's just the type of decisions

657
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: that like, no matter what Nick Sirianni does, whatever they

658
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: call on offense or on defense, it's like we're because

659
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: it's a great scheme that's versatile, but their players are

660
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: just awesome. That was just DeVante Smith, who you think

661
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: of as this. You know, slim guy, is he the

662
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: slim Reaper. There's a lot of slim reapers out there,

663
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: but he's physical too and he can be tough at

664
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: the catchpoint. And that was a great example. I mean

665
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: also like what would be concerning from New York in general.

666
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of concerning things for New York. It's

667
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: like they were just their offensive line at both tackle

668
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: spots Andrew Thomas Evan Neil dominated by the Eagles, Like

669
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: they can do everything well and they can put a

670
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the quarterback and made life tough

671
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Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones. Yeah. There, it's the Giants and the

672
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: Vikings are the two NFC teams that there were a

673
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: lot of outside doubters and and the Giants, you know,

674
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: I wonder how many wins they have left in them,

675
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, and and well, I think

676
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: we'll know a lot about that team by next week.

677
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: They have Washington. I think the winner of that game

678
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: probably gets that final seat in the NFC. But I

679
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: think the Commanders are a better team at this stage,

680
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: especially if Barkley is going to be limited. There loving

681
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: the Giants of what happened to the Seattle Seahawks today

682
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: as well the Giant that's Taylor. The Giants at last

683
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: beat a team that was not the Houston Texans on October.

684
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: I mean I was like and that that was the Jaguars, basically,

685
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean I was a different man back then. I

686
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't even I was young. I

687
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: was remember free and just a totally different mindset. It

688
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: was agent feel way down by the world. Now it's

689
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: like the winter has come and yes, many more responsibilities. Uh,

690
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: and there is you know, the early portion of the

691
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: Giant season, all those great shots of head coach Bryan

692
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: Dable heading towards midfield, waving two people in the stands

693
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: and hugging players. It feels fitting that on the third

694
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: possession for the Giants that the Jamie Gillen punt were

695
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: slipped out of a bounce, that he kicked it, and

696
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: that the next player is a touchdown to a J

697
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: Brown who was wide open. Brown, by the way, over

698
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: a thousand yards and ten touchdowns. The Eagles are the

699
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: best team in football. Yeah, I wasn't sure how I

700
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: felt about you making the Eagles number one in the

701
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Speaker 1: Power Against You know, that's just the responsibility that you

702
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: have in such a high position, um to you know,

703
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: faced doubts like myself, just because I think, like I

704
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: was thinking that maybe the Chiefs are still just a

705
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: better team. But you have a bigger problem, Greggy, I

706
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: know you like you love more than most. I think

707
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Speaker 1: this made you look good, That's what I'm saying. Thank

708
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: you very much more than most people in this industry.

709
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: You put a lot into your preseason predictions and wailing

710
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: to get them right after Mahomes had some turnover issues

711
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: today and Hurts did it again. I think Hurts is

712
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: in the driver's seat for m v P. Right fair,

713
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Speaker 1: But that's a month left of the season, and people

714
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: get carried away making bold statements a month. A month

715
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: is a lot. But I'm glad you bought brought up

716
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Speaker 1: preseason predictions because I did have the Philadelphia Eagles winning

717
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I'm seeing good. I have them losing

718
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Okay, that you should feel good about

719
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: that too, Alright, pinch yourselves. All right, Let's move on

720
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Speaker 1: to Big D where I don't even know what I picked.

721
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Speaker 1: I'll have to check. I'm gonna check while I listened

722
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Speaker 1: to this high Green Bay Cabals. Right if your pick

723
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: was as good as the Eagles winning the Super Bowl.

724
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: You remember, find such a thing on our website for

725
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: like the ten years of work we did on the website,

726
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: and then they redesigned it and wiped out our byelines

727
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: and our entire career was wiped away, literally like a

728
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: fourth of our lives. And nobody even gave a second

729
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: thought in the building about it. No, not, it doesn't bother.

730
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: They gave it a thought that they would do it. Oh,

731
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: we're doing the podcast though. All right, let's go to

732
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: throw pressures coming, they flush him out, I mean, that's

733
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: any thing, and looking Terence chases, he throws it into

734
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: the end zone and the ball is in a second

735
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: guy digs in the end zone. And my apologies to

736
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Speaker 1: Davis Mills. He just caught that thing about sixty seven

737
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: yards in the air and he gave this guys a chance.

738
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: But the only players around that football we're Dallas Cowboys.

739
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: What It was a crazy game. It was the craziest

740
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: game of the of the day. In this game, he's

741
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 1: enjoyable mark of bongos here, please, I'm shutting it down.

742
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: You get bongos when you have a big moment where

743
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: you step up as a team and deliver a big

744
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: time victory. Well, I just I would say that we

745
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: A'm looking at the rest of the games we're about

746
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: to cover. There's maybe this thing. Maybe that's where that's

747
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: where we're at right now. I'm sorry. I hate to

748
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: be this guy right now, I gotta say that I

749
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: can't gi him. The bongo over in the corner of

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00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: the newsroom this morning was acting like a kid listening

751
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: to Bongos. He was just like, oh wow, this game

752
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: was crazy. He was loving it. He was on our

753
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: Friday function. Different sure, but I can see where Gregg

754
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: is coming from because there was enthusiasm. But I had

755
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: predicted something along the line of the Texans beating the Cowboys.

756
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: So is that always becoming a distinct possibility? That was

757
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Speaker 1: raising my blood pressure, just to tach. Upon further review,

758
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: the ruling on the podcast stands Bongos denied fair enough

759
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: and also Dak Prescott leading the ninety yard drive. That's

760
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: a better highlight. Let's just start the show over because

761
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: the Zeke Elliott short touchdown run with forty one seconds

762
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: to play, that's what this game will be remembered for,

763
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: not the hall Mary at the end. And that's why

764
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys one s to twenty three mark. Not a

765
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: great showing by the Cowboys, but they got it done.

766
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: They did, and I think that that. You know, Jerry

767
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: Jones came out of the game saying like, look, I

768
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: don't really care about the rest of this. It's a

769
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: long season. That drive at the end is all I

770
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: care about. Dak Prescott's all I care about, and that's fine.

771
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: I think you can just maybe say that kind of

772
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: does work because their offense was off kilter most of

773
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Speaker 1: the day. The reason I think this happened and they

774
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: didn't get out I thought they I thought that the

775
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: Texans coming out spicy, would soon be vanquished and taken over.

776
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: But it's never really It never really happened. And I

777
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: think they threw Dallas off with a couple of different things.

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00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: Number One, Gavanti Turpin lost the punt return early that

779
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: gave the Texans the ball at the Dallas twenty four.

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00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: They punched in a touchdown Dak Prescott through an interception.

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00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: This that led to other points and so suddenly the Texans,

782
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: who was struggled to score seven or ten points in

783
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: a game, had this early advantage and they were running

784
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Speaker 1: this offense with Davis Mills, who was, you know, named

785
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: the starter again this week after that whole Kyle Allen

786
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: business um. But they were using Jeff Driscoll and Davis Mills,

787
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: and they were It's like this whole platoon thing happens

788
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: like once or twice a year. And I was trying

789
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: to watch this and watch another game at the same time,

790
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: and like, wait a minute, did someone get hurt. I'm

791
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: spending half the time switching on Twitter to see what

792
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: happened to Davis Mills. But then you start to realize

793
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: what they're doing is just drift. Jeff Driscoll he can

794
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: run the ball, and they were using him like every

795
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: single time he was in there. Initially, over the first

796
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: couple of drives, it's like, oh, we're running it. We're

797
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: gonna tell you we're running it. We don't really care

798
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: if you think that's fun or not. And like finally

799
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: he'd start to spray the ball. I mean, he's kind

800
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: of he's like a better well, he's slightly more athletic

801
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: tastom Hill, maybe not a better player, but yeah, but

802
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Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff Jess goes like kind of an incredible right well,

803
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: and he literally played guys of the Yeah, but it

804
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: was this was one of the strict third on the

805
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: depth chart. Say that, but he's not a great quarterback.

806
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones after this game said, both of the quarterbacks

807
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: for the Texans looked like Brett five out there, that's

808
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: played it out a little thick that they both looked

809
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: like little like I don't think. But Davis Mills, I'd

810
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: say one was one of his better games. Like he

811
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: he made some throws good. But so you just a

812
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: good team escapes out of this. And that's all I

813
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: take from it for the most part. And that's and

814
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: that's that drive was important. And I don't know about

815
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: the play calling at the end, and Damian Pierce, I

816
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: guess went out with an injury. You have Rex burkehead

817
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: taking snaps at the goal line. They have a chance

818
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: to win this game, Houston inside their five yard line

819
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: with three minutes to play, up three points, and uh

820
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: they go for it on fourth down. Lovey Smith, I

821
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: like it. I like the call, but you cannot and

822
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Speaker 1: I don't even know who the quarterback was on this

823
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: at this point. Mark, you could tell me drisk can't

824
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: have a bust and play in that spot. That's where

825
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: I think, like, whatever they planned to do this week,

826
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: that's where it started to create faults because right he

827
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: looked disorganized. But that that came after DA through an

828
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: interception from his own end zone, and it was that

829
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: Dallas defense stopping Houston at the goal line. Stand That's

830
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: set up that final drive and it's like the better

831
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: parts of this team stood up and just in the

832
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: nick of time. Look, it keeps Dallas in the NFC

833
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: South race, I mean the NFC East race, which is important.

834
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: And why don't we just put Dallas in the NFC

835
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: South so we could have a real team division. That

836
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: would be nice, and they were in the South. They

837
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: should be in the South anyways, Like the fair point,

838
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: let's let out on that. That's a great way to

839
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: end the show. NBC would be not would be very

840
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: unhappy to get the Cowboys out of that division East

841
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and they got that drive at the end.

842
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: Like that feels good. But now I'm a little concerned

843
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott hasn't looked good for two straight weeks.

844
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: I would say he did not play well in that

845
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: Colts game. On balance, overall, that was a game where

846
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: I think Dak in the secondary receivers were struggling, and

847
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: then in this game to have yeah struggle and for

848
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: the defense to struggle against an offense who's number two,

849
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: number one receiver was Chris Moore. Their number two receiver

850
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: was a Mari Rodgers who just got cut by the

851
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: Packers number three. Philip Or said, like, what's going on?

852
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: I feel like Dak Prescott is forcing throws a couple

853
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: of times in games, and you know then he'll go

854
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: have that final drive where he made three or four

855
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: unbelievable connections with his target. So I don't know, I

856
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: mean the decks. I think Dad can be fine, but

857
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be the talking point if he makes

858
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: any mistake at all. Um, Before we take a break,

859
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: the rules of bongo, just so we're clear, going for

860
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: it because you know, justin I everything you do, I

861
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: love and applaud you. So when there's a when there's

862
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: a miscommunication, that's on me as much as it is

863
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: on you. Um. The rule of bongo going further, going forward,

864
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: and this is gonna be written in stone tablet has

865
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: to be like a season saving win or season defining win.

866
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: It has to be a win against a quality opponent

867
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: or maybe a bad team just getting a win in general.

868
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: But when you have an NFC powerhouse beating a one

869
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: win team that doesn't pass the rule of when you

870
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: when you break it down that way, it starts to me,

871
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: I start to see where you're coming from. The kind

872
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: of thought. It was just like the craziest game of

873
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: the day that the tat who writes on these tablets.

874
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: You know, this is as the full time producer. So

875
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm still like getting takes December, so please accept my apologies.

876
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: It's it's no need to apologize, but I do like

877
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: maybe another nickname coming into the focus right here, the

878
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: god of Bongo. Let's take a break and we'll be

879
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: right back. All right, welcome back. Before we get to

880
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: the a f C North Showdown Battle of Ohio, let's

881
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: just again Grave, they're you're bringing in um the rules

882
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: of bongo engagement, so we haven't used our bongo yet.

883
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: It As the producer, it's on you to decide now

884
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: whether there is a game worthy of the bongos. But

885
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: we can't. We can't make the same mistake twice in

886
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: the same show. So you've got to make sure you

887
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: get this one right or just keep in your back pocket.

888
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: And I know the fans are going to be disappointed

889
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: because they've come to expect bongos. But that's you know, heavy,

890
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: he who wears the crown back there behind the glass.

891
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: All right. Not every show needs a bongo, but most

892
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: of them probably do. Just play this the right way.

893
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: This is a big test for you. This is this

894
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: is the next big test for you. I'll just say,

895
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: if he dials one up um prior to Sunday Night Football,

896
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: I would suggest that Justin's made a tremendous error. But

897
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: let's see if he defies my Well, I'm not saying you.

898
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying if you do that, not that you what

899
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: to do, so that you know, right, you now know

900
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: your your opinion. You gotta trust your own on this.

901
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: There is one game that matches all the criteria you

902
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: laid out, but it would hurt my soul. So we'll

903
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: see what happens. I know where he's going with that,

904
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: and he's coming closer than any of the others. It

905
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: wasn't not behind much of a veil. Yeah, all right,

906
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: let's go Sherlock Holmes over here. He's got a man

907
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: open over the shoulder, casting from safeties half the sex

908
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: goals to fleet clicker executed to perfection. Joey Franchise launched

909
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: it perfectly down the middle of the field for the

910
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: touchdown strike to Trenton Irwin. Craig A, I love Trenton Irwin.

911
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: You see the joy in his face there, the four

912
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: little cheesy smile, former child actor who gave up acting

913
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: for football. You could see that. Yeah, that's a theatrical

914
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: in a good way. Good nuck bark. Not a great

915
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 1: day offensively for the Bengals, but it was not gonna

916
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: be easy because they continue to have issues injury wise

917
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: with their wide receivers. Tay Boyd dislocated his finger on

918
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: the first series of the game. Out Tee Higgins aggravates

919
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: a hamstring. Uh, he leaves the game, but Joe Burrow

920
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: finds a way as he always does, and that touchdown

921
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: was a big one for the Bengals and a ten

922
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: win over the Browns, ending a five game losing streak

923
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati against Cleveland. Four of those with Burrow involved.

924
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: Burrow said it was a team win, team ugly win,

925
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: but we got it done. We could. Yeah, and the

926
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Cincinnati defense did their job as well. They shut up,

927
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: shut down, Nick Chubb, picked off the Shawn Deshaun Watson,

928
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: stopped the Browns and fourth down three separate times, and

929
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: just kept the train rolling. Here. They remain tied with

930
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: the Ravens atop the a f C North. But there

931
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: is no question to me who the best team in

932
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: this division is. There isn't And this is another example

933
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: I think of what Joe Burrow said three weeks ago

934
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: where he said, this is the type of game that

935
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: great teams win when they won in Tennessee in that

936
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: tough game, to lose their two of their top three

937
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: receivers in the first drive, and now your number two

938
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: and three receivers are the fighting Trent's Trent Irwin and

939
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: Trent Taylor, and to find a way out of here

940
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: in a win where it seemed like the two teams

941
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: were moving the ball in a similar way, and yet

942
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: the Bengals were the ones that ended up finding the

943
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: big players and making the big stops and just kind

944
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: of survive in advance in a matchup where they had

945
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: lost five in a row. It was a big step

946
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: for Zach Taylor to get a win over Kevin Stefanski.

947
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, this matchup doesn't seem to favor them,

948
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: especially their defense, and that was not the case today,

949
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: only given up ten Divisional football. Strange because like they're

950
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: only lost after October nine. The Bengals was that aberration

951
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: destruction by Cleveland on Monday Night football, which just stands

952
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: out as one of the weirder games of the year.

953
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: But they do match up well with Cincinnati and they

954
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: the game a fight today. But the Browns also, I think,

955
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: are dealing with a level of disorganization post to Kobe

956
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: Brissette trying to shift to Deshaun Watson, who still just

957
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: does not look comfortable to me out there. I think

958
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: it's affecting the ground game to some degree. I don't

959
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: love their their cast of wide outs to begin with,

960
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: but Watson did not look as disjointed as a week ago.

961
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: But he does not seem comfortable to me, and I don't.

962
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: I think it's like there's you need more time to

963
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: get used to him if you're the rest of the

964
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: team too. Yeah, he was better than he was last week,

965
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: but that's not saying much. And I think Cooper has

966
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: proven himself to be a very good wide receiver in

967
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: this offense, so they do have Cooper, I think in

968
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: Joku and Watson. Once Watson, you know, assuming he does

969
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: get back to the level of play before his suspension

970
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: and everything that happened, I think they can have, you know,

971
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl type pairing the two of them. So

972
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they're too far away. On offense. They

973
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: gotta fortify the line and maybe added another wide receiver

974
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: um But in this tame they've scored like one touchdown

975
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: in two weeks. It's I know there's obviously an inclination

976
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: to root against Watson, and I understand that, but I'm

977
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: just talking from a pure football side of things. This

978
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: is gonna take time. I mean, his touchdown passing through

979
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: to an Joco was his first touchdown passing seven and

980
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: seven days. So I think Cleveland, which is now out

981
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: of the mix here with their eighth loss from a

982
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: playoff standpoint, most likely. I mean, I guess if we're

983
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: talking about a nine and eight team, can get in.

984
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: Perhaps they could reel off the but this is just

985
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: this does give them. I know you had said it, Mark,

986
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: maybe he was in a conversation with Chris Rose last week.

987
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: You're like, maybe it would have been better just Watson

988
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: didn't play it all this year and then have a

989
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: fresh start next year. Well, maybe this is the best

990
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: thing for the Browns now now you have this like

991
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: runway to the end of the season to try to

992
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: get some comfort back to this offense, because right now

993
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: it's very wonky, and Cincinnati's defense took advantage of that. Yeah,

994
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: because I think that last week. What I said too

995
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: was it's probably better that they aren't really on the

996
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: fringe of the playoff race and having to try to

997
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: work this thing out too. You've given everything up for

998
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: this quarterback. I don't have to like the decision, no

999
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: one does, but but why not treat him like a

1000
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: young quarterback that's learning to basically play again and just

1001
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: ride him out for the rest of the year. There's

1002
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: no reason to starting one. They would have been on

1003
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: the fringes of the playoff race if they won this game,

1004
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: but they didn't, and they had a chance there where

1005
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: that driving down like in the fourth quarter and that's

1006
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: where he throws his interception. I just love that the

1007
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: Bengals can win games in different types of ways, and

1008
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: they've shown us that their defense. They are an awesome

1009
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: team right now. Nine out of their last eleven That's

1010
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: why I'm happy me and the Westboro is locked up

1011
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: the boys. It's a good listen. You got you have

1012
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: the lock title in your back pocket. I should just

1013
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: give you the trophy. Now, I should tell you're not

1014
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: susceptible to reverse psychology. I think Dan, you're just acknowledging

1015
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: that you've conceded defeating getting my butt kicked. So it's like,

1016
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm happy if it means that we just stopped the

1017
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: segment and you stop picking games. I'll take that, you know,

1018
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: if you just give me when I am no longer

1019
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: on this earth. Um. One other thing that Jake Briskett

1020
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: did come show up in this game and a pivotal

1021
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: moment fourth and one down deep in Cincinnati territory, and

1022
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: everyone said, oh, he's gonna sneak it the big body.

1023
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: He draws back to pass and the airmails one into

1024
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: the corner of the end zone. Uh, turnover on downs.

1025
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: That was a big play in the game. And also

1026
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: what are we doing with that? I don't know them

1027
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: p Ryan touchdown where he bounced out and Clowney and

1028
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: then some other Cleveland players kind of quit on the

1029
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: play and they weren't aggressive enough. Added nine penalties for

1030
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: nine yards and Browns are kind of a mess. All right,

1031
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: let's move on, Let's keep moving. The rules Engagement the

1032
00:52:51,600 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: ten edited intersep. This is a cross roads, Marcus Williams

1033
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: docking the line up after coming off of injured reserve

1034
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: with a broken wrist. And there kidding Rabel did say it? No,

1035
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: now we've got a bogo said it. I think you're

1036
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: at the crossroads. This could have been a bongoes game here.

1037
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: I like this choice. This one's good Brown vers Mitch Robinsky,

1038
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: it's the bongos? Greg? What do we do? Where? W

1039
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: B A L. The Ravens are beat up by the

1040
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: end of the game on Sunday. They were on their

1041
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: third quarterback, but they find a way in Pittsburgh sixteen

1042
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: to fourteen, and it was their running game, led by J. K.

1043
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: Dobbins a hundred twenty yards and a touchdown in his

1044
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: first game since undergoing a second knee surgery in two years. Greggy,

1045
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: the Ravens aren't a fun team really to watch. They

1046
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: haven't really been fun since September to watch. But I

1047
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: gotta give him some credit for finding a way. Pittsburgh

1048
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: was feeling good about itself and they brought him down

1049
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: to earth. This is a classic Ravens win. I think

1050
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh is gonna love this win. I think it

1051
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: shows that this team is different than they were a

1052
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: year ago. It's like an organization. I mean, he has

1053
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: been there a long time, so you gotta win fast.

1054
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: They're on their third strink quarterback early in the second half.

1055
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: That's when Tyler Huntley took a massive hit from Minca

1056
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick up at around his chest, but that's not where

1057
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: he got injured. And then he got kind of caught underneath,

1058
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: and uh, I think that was the injury that actually

1059
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: put him out. Was it a concussion protocol or was

1060
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 1: it an ankle? I think it was his ankle injury

1061
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: that actually knocked him out. But it was about the

1062
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: seventh or eighth time Huntley took a massive hit in

1063
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: that game, and throughout it I was just thinking, he

1064
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: is not gonna last. He was taking hits as a runner,

1065
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: he got thirty one yards on the ground, he was

1066
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: taking hits as a passer only through the ball twelve times,

1067
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: and it almost felt like it was a matter of time.

1068
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. So for them to win

1069
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: because of their defense because Klais Campbell is having a

1070
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: monster season, because Patrick Queen and Roke once with both

1071
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: that interception Queens was incredible and they were both making

1072
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: plays behind the line of scrimmage in the run game

1073
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: and then in the secondary Marcus Williams with that interception

1074
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 1: two of Rabinsky. You know, to get a win running

1075
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: the ball two and fifteen yards and in defense like that,

1076
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be very satisfying and crucial for them.

1077
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: I think making the playoffs clearly, they're gonna make it

1078
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: now and staying in the a f C North Hunt

1079
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: and Ian rap report announced that it was a concussion

1080
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: that he will be out in a short weeks next

1081
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: game as well. So the Ravens man two years in

1082
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: a row, have been dealt rough cards. The quarterback there

1083
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: some Saturday, right, there are three Saturday games next week.

1084
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: We all on NFL Network. They have the Browns on

1085
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoons. That's that's a tricky game with your third

1086
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: string quarterback. That's what it's gonna be. Because we heard

1087
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: a report that Lamar Jackson was trending towards having two

1088
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: weeks off with this injury. I guess some reported that

1089
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve is the targeted date for his return, which

1090
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: would be the week after next. That makes this game

1091
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: even bigger that they wanted. And I was surprised because

1092
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers, who have been running the ball so well lately,

1093
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: could not run it against Baltimore, who is a really

1094
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: good run defense because of class Campbell, uh and others,

1095
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: and that the Ravens were able to run all over

1096
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: them in key spots. You cannot just put this on

1097
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: Mitch Biscuit. Well well, but Trabisky threw a couple of

1098
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: bad interceptions in this as well, and it's it is

1099
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: what it is. But that you know Kenny Pickett, that's

1100
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: his second concussion of the year too. You know some

1101
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: of these guys at some point it's like you get

1102
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: a third is gonna get shut down. He had a

1103
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: weird thing where he passed the concussion test, came back

1104
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: into the game for a series, didn't get hit again.

1105
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: I went back and checked that I made a mistake

1106
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: thinking he got hit. He didn't get touched again, but

1107
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: then he left the game for good afterwards, which is worrisome.

1108
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 1: Two concussions in less than two months before the rookie

1109
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh. Alright, Trobisky threw the ball really well today.

1110
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: I know that sounds weird because he had three interceptions,

1111
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: but there were a lot of throws in this game

1112
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: that you were like, oh, where have these throws been

1113
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: in this offense? Like five or six total dimes. But

1114
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: he got confused on the first interception, the second one similar.

1115
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: But Queen made a great play and then he just

1116
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: sometimes he just decides before the place starts, I'm just

1117
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: gonna take a shot on this play no matter what

1118
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: I see, and he took a shot in Marcus Williams

1119
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: made him play pay. But like I said, in the

1120
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, two different drives where the Ravens with their

1121
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: third string quarterback eight minute drive to get a field goal,

1122
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: and then at the end of the game that Steelers

1123
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: could have gotten the ball back if they had stopped them,

1124
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: and they just run three straight times right through pathetic

1125
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: and Justin Tucker, by the way, he's having another incredible season.

1126
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: He finished with ten points. He's up to one thousand,

1127
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: four seventy three points in his career, breaking the franchise

1128
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: scoring record held held by former kicker. Former Cleveland Browns

1129
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: kicker turned into a Raven Phill Dalson's he was on

1130
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: the Browns and they went to the ras. No, it's

1131
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: not Matt bar it's Stover. Matt Stover. Come on, Marky,

1132
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: I need you on that. I need you on that

1133
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: wall there. I was literally like staring through the window

1134
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: here in our studio. I don't I hate to say this,

1135
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: but this is now for the rest of this episode.

1136
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: Across roads moment for you as well. Well, what's going

1137
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: to happen if I don't pass your test? I don't know.

1138
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: That's why it's a cross room. This is how it works.

1139
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to be facing a crossroads coming along, all right,

1140
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: let's guess I should feel more urgency on that front. Then, Yeah,

1141
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: that's a good drop. All right, go ahead, shotgun for

1142
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. It's a play. I mean, it isn't all

1143
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: out blitts. Trevor fires left side that Paul is going

1144
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: to be the touchdown by Evan Ingram in the left?

1145
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Kind of want this bond goes

1146
00:58:51,800 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: given to me? Just nothing, he's down trodden. I don't know, guys,

1147
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: you wanted them there? I think he should that should

1148
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: have think I think he knows it because and then

1149
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: he's banking on the Sunday night game that we don't

1150
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: know how it's gonna but you've already told him that

1151
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: it's maybe the most wise move to not use them

1152
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: at all if it doesn't actually match I think the Jaguars.

1153
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: You also don't want someone that's, you know, too afraid

1154
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: to go for it. That's how you end up being

1155
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: inactive while Joe Flacco is fumbling in the pocket. You

1156
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: don't want to be Mitch your whisky, but you don't

1157
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: want to be Davis Mills, you know what I mean.

1158
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: Frank Frangie with the call w O k V. Trevor

1159
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: Lawrence for the second time in three weeks, is waving

1160
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: his arms frantically screaming, I am the future. Three d

1161
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: sixty eight yards, career high three touchdowns. He also ran

1162
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: for a score and the Jaguars rand that tightens out

1163
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: of the building thirty six two, their first win in

1164
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: Nashville in a decade. And uh man, I'll bring in

1165
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: great dig around this one. Um. You know, the Jacks,

1166
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: like we've been saying on this podcast, are coming along,

1167
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: and the quarterback is coming along and becoming a real

1168
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: difference maker, but the fact that this game gets away

1169
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: from Tennessee justin um with Derrick Henry going off for

1170
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: ninety yards in the first quarter in a hundred and

1171
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: twenty by the half. This was a sign of major

1172
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: distress for this team that I feel way worse about

1173
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: what happened this game than even the last two weeks.

1174
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: This feels like a real team in desperate trouble. Now

1175
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: it's a weird spot because this is now, well, it's

1176
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: two Titans games in a row that we're over in

1177
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: early in the fourth quarter. Basically no chance for the

1178
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: Titans to make a comeback. Derrick Henry three yards in

1179
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: the second half, that's not gonna cut it, basically, ever,

1180
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: and you wonder how much three total rushing yards in

1181
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: the second half. You wonder how much firing your general

1182
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: manager in the middle of the season. Like, I don't

1183
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: want to say that the Titans lost because of that,

1184
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: but there's gotta be some weird vibes going around the building.

1185
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: And then this was also just a weird game. The

1186
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: Titans out gained the Jaguars a hundred and forty six

1187
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: yards to thirty seven in the first quarter and then

1188
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: completely just fell apart. They had four turnovers, three lost fumbles,

1189
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: which sometimes can be flukey. They had a chance to

1190
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: lose a fourth fumble on a muffed punt that got

1191
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: batted out of bounds that was close, and they just

1192
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: looked completely discombobulated on both sides of the ball. They

1193
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: got stops early on. Then they had Ryan Tannehill was

1194
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: strip sacked by Travan Walker, his first like good play

1195
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: in in a few weeks. You know you don't need

1196
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: to take shots at travon watch, Well, it's more of

1197
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: a shot. It's more of a shot at Titans backup

1198
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: left tackle turned starter by Taylor Lawe's injury, Dennis Daley,

1199
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 1: who I jokingly called Dennis Snappy earlier this year because

1200
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: that's how often he gets beat, and that is a

1201
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: wonderful joke. I think that, um, the Titans are really

1202
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: struggling with injuries, the offensive line is really bad, and

1203
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are a good team that are coming along,

1204
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: and they had a bad week. The Jaguars, I mean,

1205
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: they did lose last week. Last week, feeling themselves dance

1206
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: it a little nigh on their own supply on the

1207
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: preview show, and I think that was probably the case

1208
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: but the Titans offense is so poor. And it was

1209
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: funny because they got the ball back after the Jags

1210
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: went for it on a fourth down just across midfield.

1211
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: Down still by three touchdowns the Titans and the Andrew

1212
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: Catalan goes, could that be the spark the Titans need

1213
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: to get back in this game? And the very next

1214
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: play was this weird trick play where the idea was

1215
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: Tannehill was supposed to fake like those snap went over

1216
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: his head and it was going to be a direct

1217
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: snap to Henry class. Henry dropped the snap and the

1218
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: Jags dove on it, and it was like, is this

1219
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: the spark the Titans need? Not at all? So everything

1220
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: you're saying, and Rabel pointedly after as Sunday's game, we

1221
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: played it twice on this show in fact well, and

1222
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: and everyone's at a crossroads on the show except for Greg,

1223
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: but I feel like I could be coming soon. Um, Like,

1224
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: he purposely says, we're at a crossroads. We're gonna find

1225
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: out some about our team because he feels confident that

1226
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: he will coach the team up and they will be

1227
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: ready to kick ass against the Jaguars at home. And

1228
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: the fact that they couldn't do that, and the fact

1229
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: that they gave up twenty nine straight points in this

1230
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: game makes me think that Rabel, as good as a

1231
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: coach as he is, is kind of lost at this

1232
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: point too. And the team. I also think Rabel calling

1233
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: into crossroads. Who knows his team better than Rabel. I mean,

1234
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: he's seen that there are faults, there are issues. There

1235
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: is an absolutely dearth of talent at the skill position

1236
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: player in the passing game, and it's left Tannehill in

1237
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: a tough spot. They've been a real problem team on

1238
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: third down. I just look at the last three games

1239
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: and say you're the reverse Eagles because they find a

1240
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: way to win differently every week. The Titans were out

1241
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: physical by the Bengals. That was a bad sign. They

1242
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: got waxed by Philadelphia, and then you just let the

1243
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: youngsters in Jacksonville come up with their new quarterback and

1244
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: take you out. You're meant to be the team that

1245
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: like runs away with this poor division. There was a

1246
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: key play where who was a McCreary could have picked

1247
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: off Lawrence and instead, you know, it turns into a

1248
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: touchdown for z Jones getting his feet in that that's

1249
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: like a seven point swing right there. But you let

1250
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram get a hundred and sixty two yard, you

1251
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: let Z Jones get seventy seven and a touch. The

1252
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: Titans at one point I looked at the list. I

1253
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: think they're missing seven defensive starters or potentially seven. Right,

1254
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: Well you should he's like the player on the team him.

1255
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just saying that's that's a lot of starters.

1256
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: And then and to have that and a really bad

1257
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: offensive line, that's they're a team in crisis. And you're right.

1258
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: I think Rebel kind of knew it, and he said,

1259
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna find out a lot we did. He challenged

1260
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: his team and that's how they responded. It's crazy because

1261
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: second week in a row, they've completely shut down the

1262
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: opponent running game and it hasn't mattered at all. They're

1263
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: just sting whoever they play throw all over the yard,

1264
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: and it's like the damn that's breaking and you stick

1265
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: your thumb in one hole, then another one opens up.

1266
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: Where are what's going on with the Mark and the

1267
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: Titans and what's going on right now? Because yeah, so

1268
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: I put out a tweet sometime during the third quarter

1269
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 1: when it was it was fourteen Jacksonville, and I said,

1270
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: ever since Mark Sessler joined the Titans bandwagon. I went

1271
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: through the list that we talked about on this show.

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Speaker 1: Todd Downing got the d U. I they had an

1273
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: ugly loss of the Bengals. It's something that happened since Mark.

1274
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: The ugly loss of the Bengals, including those horrible penalties

1275
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the game that ended any chance

1276
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: of a comeback, the blowout loss of the Eagles. Their

1277
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: general manager was fired, and then they got blown out

1278
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: by the division rival Jacksonville, who they've owned for years.

1279
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's first win in Tennesseeason's Twitter? What's the problems? So

1280
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: I put out a poll on Twitter? Should we boot

1281
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: Cessy off this train? This was not my call, this

1282
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: is Titans Twitter. Well, it's a little little grill. And

1283
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: you're have spoken of poll results. Say good riddance to

1284
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. You got to find another team. I'm sorry,

1285
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: it's not my coss. I don't make these rules. But

1286
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: I do feel though, is that whatever team I pick,

1287
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: that fan base is going to be feeling a lot

1288
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: of heat because it's like this will be the fourth

1289
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: team in a row that I've jumped onto that has

1290
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,959
Speaker 1: absolutely fallen off the side of the cliff, a kiss

1291
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: of death. The Jets were preemptively we have to say thanks,

1292
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: but no thanks, Well it's my choice. I think the

1293
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: Lions are lucky that Mark was so hesitant to jump

1294
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: on that bandwagon. We've now uh it's fair. Yeah, we've

1295
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: reached the point where we can no longer confidently say like,

1296
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: the Titans are definitely winning this division. Every we gotten there,

1297
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: they're up by two. They got to play the Jaguars again. Obviously,

1298
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: the Jaguars would have to win that second matchup for

1299
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: it to happen, but then the Jaggars are only down

1300
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: one if they win that matchup with three extra games.

1301
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: The schedules are not It's not an easy schedule for

1302
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. They would you know, they got the Jets

1303
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: and the Cowboy. Yes, so that maybe is the team

1304
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: right now. That is the most worry the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1305
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, the Jacksonville offense, which has

1306
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: been pretty good this season two very good at times,

1307
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: too great at times. Did they unlock Evan Ingram, the

1308
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: guy that tantalized and tease Giants fans for years and

1309
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: it's helps It's helps that he's healthy too. But one

1310
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: of these season where suddenly I'm like, yes, he's the

1311
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: number seven tight end in the NFL, and then start

1312
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: flash a little bit more. I feel like a fifteen

1313
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: talk kits for a hundred and sixty two yards and

1314
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: eleven eleven catches with two touchdowns in this no answer

1315
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: for him, but I did start him on my fantasy team,

1316
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: so at least one good thinking. Well, that's groundbreaking, all right,

1317
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: do we have to take a break. We keep going,

1318
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. Alright, alright, we got two more

1319
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: games before Sunday Night football. Let's keep the train rolling

1320
01:07:53,760 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: to Seattle. Snap the gift to Blackett touchdown. Look ship, well,

1321
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: I'll bet Macadou said, all right, we're gonna go back

1322
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: to what we do best. They ran it down the

1323
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: throats of the Seahawks. My goodness, did they ever? Jordan

1324
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: Gross and Jim Zoki with the call for w BT.

1325
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: There was a moment in this game where the Seahawks

1326
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: seemed to get things under control. They're falling behind seventeen zip.

1327
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: They got it, and then Carolina just said, oh wait,

1328
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: they literally can't stop our running game and we don't

1329
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: even have Christian McCaffrey anymore. But it doesn't matter because

1330
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: guys like Cuba Hubbard and Raheem Black she Hear ran

1331
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: right over the Seahawks in route to a thirty to win,

1332
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: a damaging loss for the Seahawks, and the Panthers after

1333
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: another Tampa Bay meltdown, are in the mix in the

1334
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: NFC South. In fact, if not for that miracle by

1335
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,480
Speaker 1: the Bucks on Monday night, Greg, you did your tabulations

1336
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: and it's that time of year. By the way, um,

1337
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't this is not a crossroads thing because we

1338
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: fire the Greggy bott three thousand up with our playoff simulations.

1339
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: Playoffs calculator now online. I like that we are now online.

1340
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: And what would have happened, Greggy if the Saints standing

1341
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: gagged their face off on Monday night, we'd have a

1342
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: four away tie right now in South, which we did.

1343
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: They would have been the one way to make this

1344
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,839
Speaker 1: dreaded division fun. Just listen to them tabulate the playoff

1345
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: teams and finally that the Eagles have officially clinched for

1346
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: the playoffs. By the way, and I think a bit more,

1347
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: this is just the start. I think the Panthers have

1348
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: a legit chance to make the playoffs here at five

1349
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: and eight, because I think they're the best team in

1350
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: the NFC South there four and three since Wilkes took over.

1351
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: They have an identity on both sides of the ball.

1352
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: They would be five and two if not for that

1353
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 1: crazy missed extra point game against Man. See how this works.

1354
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: Seattle is so soft. I couldn't believe when they punted

1355
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: mid fourth quarter, just because you gotta know your team

1356
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: and you gotta see what's in front of you, and

1357
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: at that point in the game, it was obvious Seattle

1358
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: just could not stop the running game of Carolina, and

1359
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: so they punted it away at fourth and seven, and

1360
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 1: they marched right down the field on that black Shear

1361
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: touchdown drive finished with the Black Shirt touchdown ten for

1362
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: seventy four in over five minutes. They had a similar

1363
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: drive to kick a field goal later that just burned clock,

1364
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 1: and Sam Donald had thirty six yards after halftime passing,

1365
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: and they held onto a lead in Seattle like they

1366
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: didn't need to do it just because they had a

1367
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: big bushy beard. Now, as he begins phase two of

1368
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: his career as a man, making a run toward being

1369
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback for a team hosting a playoff game,

1370
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: a division champion, no less, in about a month or so. Um,

1371
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: and he saw what the rest of us saw, which

1372
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: was I could it could be my glory day. I'm

1373
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. I'm gonna give it to the

1374
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: running back because that's what's gonna He's taken some more

1375
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: glory because the only reason Seattle was even in this

1376
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: game that late was because they had four straight cracks

1377
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: at it from the three yard line of Seattle late

1378
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: third quarter, and they bizarrely through four straight passes and

1379
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: Donald had a chance to run a couple of those in,

1380
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: and his instincts were up and down. I would say

1381
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: in this game it wasn't about the quarterbacks, but it

1382
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: kind of was because Gino Smith, I think needs to

1383
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: play at such a high level right now, like an

1384
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: m v P level, for the Seattle Seahawks to win games.

1385
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: And he didn't today, and then the rest of the

1386
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: team shows up, bad defense, bad ronning. It's concerning because

1387
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: like their defense was showing up, but they gave the

1388
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: Cardinals their best day on the ground, one of their

1389
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: best days. They're the one team that allowed Tampa basically

1390
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: the could run the ball for a hundred and sixty one.

1391
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: In Germany, they gave two eight three to the Raiders.

1392
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: That was a disaster, A hundred and seventy one to

1393
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: the Rams, who haven't been able to run the ball

1394
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: all year long. I mean, that's this is a mess.

1395
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: The air started to come out of the balloon slowly

1396
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: in Munich and it's just continued for the most part

1397
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. So yeah, I think, and we've talked

1398
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: about it all the year that Gino has been very

1399
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: good this season, but even in in what's the season

1400
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: of his career, he's not an m v P level good.

1401
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: So if you're asking him to carry the team on

1402
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 1: his back, that's just asking too much for from from

1403
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: Gino and that that I think that's what's gonna cost

1404
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: Seattle a chance to go to the playoffs potentially. Here

1405
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 1: is their defense just can't get a big stop and

1406
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: that's putting the offense in band situation. So yeah, good

1407
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: job by Carolina though It's it's interesting. J. C. Horne

1408
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: is a legit star. So he had an interception early

1409
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: and it was one of those throws you're like, wow, Gino,

1410
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: like why did he force it? It It was one of

1411
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: the worst decisions and then you rewatch the play and

1412
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: they did a good job explaining it. That was not J. C.

1413
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: Horne's man. He like reads the play halfway through, peels

1414
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: off his man and ends up making an unbelievable play

1415
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 1: on the ball. Broke up another play late that he

1416
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: couldn't quite get his feet in or else he would

1417
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: have had a second interception. He is a star and

1418
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: they have a nice pass rush. They're they're like, they're

1419
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: a good team. I hope they give genuine consideration to

1420
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: keeping Steve Wilkes around. Oh. I think they will. I

1421
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: think if they win two of their last four here,

1422
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: if they like continue on this track, I think Steve

1423
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: Wilks is their coach next year. And uh, we've been

1424
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: talking about how bad the NFC South is this year.

1425
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: If the Seahawks don't make the playoffs, they will rue

1426
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: their performance against the worst division football. They went oh

1427
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: and four against the South. Can't do that. Can't happen,

1428
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean, but it did, Greg. It can't happen, and

1429
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: you know what it is? Sick here listen as a

1430
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: shot respect, I locked up the Seattle Seahawks, as did

1431
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: my luck brother. In all the smoke system. And I

1432
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: asked you, Greg Wilsons, will to come to me, enjoin

1433
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: us and bring all the families together, and yet you

1434
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: chose to say no and betray us, and betray that

1435
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: trust and that olive branch. I will not forget this.

1436
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: I will not forget this injustice, a lack of loyalty.

1437
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes I think you've learned in this the

1438
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: you gotta not listen to the boss. You gotta listen

1439
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: to the black father. You gotta try to win this thing.

1440
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, you know Salvator. I won't say his

1441
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: nickname in the Sopranos. You could say it was when

1442
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: out on the boat, you know, don't say yes, get

1443
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: out of there. I can't say his name. Oh my

1444
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: what grabbing his pearls? Yes, Salhou didn't have gotten on

1445
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: the boat, That's what I'm saying. You gotta sometimes you

1446
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: gotta make decisions with your head. So why don't you

1447
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: tell me? Why didn't you tell me? Wait again? So

1448
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: you were aware, you aware that the boat I was

1449
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: getting on was gonna take me and my brother Mark

1450
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: Seila to Hourly Denice. And yet you let that boat

1451
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,600
Speaker 1: go out to sea. This I cannot respect this. I

1452
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: will not forget it. I could have told you from

1453
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: weeks ago that you were walking into a dangerous path

1454
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: forging this like lock Zaddy or lock Daddy thing with

1455
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: greg Um, how is this fault? He's gonna leave you

1456
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: by the side of the room at some point. You

1457
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: out a cross roads. You guys are always talking about,

1458
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're the real Lis were like the real

1459
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 1: lock Bros. Right, me and the West Bros hanging out.

1460
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: When you betrayed the lock Father, you out a cross roads,

1461
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: my friend, and you will learn the hard way. Yeah,

1462
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: you'll have chosen the wrong path. I mean, but where

1463
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: you and I are the ones I did here? Yeah,

1464
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: that's what I didn't choose. We have not essentially out

1465
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: of the office on Thursday. You weren't feeling well. I

1466
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,480
Speaker 1: don't count that as a miss for because when we're

1467
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: when we lock up together, there's a synergy where we

1468
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: we feel at the energy. And in this case, I

1469
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: didn't even learn that you had locked until after the

1470
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: lock Father had already come in. Normally do things, I

1471
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: hear you, and that that explains that. I mean, the

1472
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,839
Speaker 1: minute I filed that lock, I was thinking to myself

1473
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: that might have been an odd move, probably something you know. Yeah,

1474
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: a real a real father like takes responsibility, like the

1475
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: lock zad. He's over here. They're just making excuses and

1476
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: we forge on. Don't you worry about us? Was gonna

1477
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 1: Is he gonna come back? Does he have to say

1478
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: something else? No, we have to move on. He he

1479
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: did say you're at a crossroads. Whenever the guy, the

1480
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: head of the family says you're you're at a crossroads,

1481
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna end with a bolt through the glasses. Survive.

1482
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play this one more time for me,

1483
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: not going in the woods with anyone. Oh, poor Adrian.

1484
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: Let's go to a mile high to close things up

1485
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: before we get to snf me. Mahomes, being pressured, moves

1486
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: to his right. There coming from behind him, flames it

1487
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:13,480
Speaker 1: flames it to MCNA discerned touchdown. Batman loves this stadium.

1488
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 1: It was an underhanded shovel at the right pedaltry for

1489
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: fifty man touchdown. They were all over him. Patrick Mahomes

1490
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: the magic man outstand imagine this is playground stuff. We

1491
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: love it. That man, I believe. I don't think he

1492
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: literally just called him Batman. I mean if he did maybe,

1493
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know why that would make a lot of sense,

1494
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: justin can you do some research while we talked this

1495
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: game to see if indeed Mitch Holtus and Dan and

1496
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 1: Hughes of w d a f call Patrick Mahomes batman.

1497
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: Sure there it is again, I tweeted about it, like

1498
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes makes decisions that would land lesser quarterbacks on

1499
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, folly elms for the rest of their careers.

1500
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: But when he does it, you know, like just throwing

1501
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: a pass underhanded, casually scrambling as a defender rolls in

1502
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: and then turning into a long touch on That's what

1503
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: he does. And the Chiefs they wint in this game.

1504
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 1: And it's a very weird game, a very strange game,

1505
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 1: and not just because Russell Wilson started playing really well

1506
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: at one point and you know, taking his team up

1507
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: and down the field before unfortunately it looked like he

1508
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: got knocked out near the goal line and suffered a

1509
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: head injury of his own. But this game was late

1510
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: in the second quarter. Uh my Homes throws an interception,

1511
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: turns into seven points, all right, whatever, and then they

1512
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: get the ball back the Broncos before they half and

1513
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 1: score again, and then all of a sudden at the

1514
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: half and you're like, oh, that was stupid, but obviously

1515
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are just gonna turn it on and this

1516
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: game will end up to you know, seventeen or something. No,

1517
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: because then the Broncos get the ball after a punt

1518
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: to begin the third quarter and Patrick and uh, Russell

1519
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: Wilson connects with who wasn't somebody had a crazy the

1520
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 1: running no no, Judy had three touch rumbling and bumbling

1521
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: and stumbling sixty yards for a touchdown, and it's seven

1522
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 1: to twenty one, and the Chiefs obviously get away and

1523
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: get the win. Smith Shustar has a touchdown late. But

1524
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: not only the Broncos get back in this game. They

1525
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: had multiple chances in the second have to take the

1526
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: lead where they had the ball down six points, but

1527
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: the offense either stalled and then the unfortunate injury to

1528
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, which is such a microcosmo of his entire

1529
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: lost season when he finally gets things going, when Jerry

1530
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: Judy finally is locked in, Uh, he gets knocked out

1531
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: near the goal line and uh it's ripping who finishes

1532
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: at Brett rip You don't get a lot of games

1533
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: like this if you're a division opponent of the Chiefs,

1534
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: where Mahomes throws three picks that's only happened, hasn't happened

1535
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: like two plus years, and I mean some of them

1536
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: were just not good throws, but he always makes up

1537
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: for it with this circus magic or batman artist. I'm

1538
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: not sure what's going on there, but the Chiefs like

1539
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: it's okay to have a game like this once in

1540
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 1: a while where a division opponent almost nips you. But

1541
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: I never really felt at any moment that they were

1542
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: gonna lose this game. Then again, it's just bizarre not

1543
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 1: lose it. But it wasn't like it was like the

1544
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: Broncos made it close, but it was never really They

1545
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: had again multiple up four four twice in the third quarter,

1546
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: and it was this was like a story of like

1547
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: the Broncos fandom season two. It was like they started

1548
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: out booing, you know, Russell Wilson quite a bit with nothing,

1549
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: and then they make all the these touchdowns and they're

1550
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: playing good defense for a minute and they're going the

1551
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: place was kind of rocking there at the beginning of

1552
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: the third quarter, and then they go three and out

1553
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,919
Speaker 1: two more times with Russell Wilson and they start struggling

1554
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: and the booze come right back for him. It was

1555
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: like a journey through in this one game. But even

1556
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: with Prett Rippon, they could have gone down the field

1557
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: at the end and tried to take a lead. They

1558
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: did not. Yeah and yeah, according to my cursory research,

1559
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:01,879
Speaker 1: it appears that Mitch Holtis does called Patrick Mahomes Batman.

1560
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: Am I gonna get a bunch of tweets now from

1561
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 1: people being like you should know that nobody nobody thinks

1562
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: that isn't that you should know that nobody knows he's

1563
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: been nobody super people in Kansas City. I mean he

1564
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: made like the tuchow a Juju Smith Schuster where he

1565
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: does the three sixty would be like the greatest play

1566
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: at any quarterbacks made people. But these interceptions were a

1567
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: little worrisome. One was I think he just thought his

1568
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 1: arm was going to get it past Josie Jewel faster

1569
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: than than and Jewel made a great play. The other

1570
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: one he didn't see him. The other he threw while

1571
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: getting hit like they're not good. Here's the thing about

1572
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: the the batman thing, it doesn't really work because what

1573
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: makes Mahomes so great is the magic of Mahomes, the

1574
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 1: superpowers he possesses, and famously what makes Batman, you know,

1575
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: so compelling and has for decades. He doesn't have superpowers.

1576
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: He's actually the world's greatest detective Batman, and he combines

1577
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 1: his his knowledge and his street smarts and that need

1578
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: for revenge with all those you know, toys he has

1579
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: in the bat Cave, and it makes him this fierce

1580
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: fighter of crime. Yeah, you take off Batman's like utility belt,

1581
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: and he's a lot much lesser of a problem to

1582
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: deal with on some level, your handsome, handsome billionaire bachelor,

1583
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: I would. I mean, it's more just Superman Mahomes because

1584
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: he's doing things physically that we don't expect someone that

1585
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 1: looks like well exactly, so it seems like it's a stretch,

1586
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: which is why I believe that wasn't his nickname. But

1587
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 1: I was wrong. Also, Graham Williams of the Celtics goes

1588
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: by Batman. So but then who's someone's got to be

1589
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: your Robin in that case? Right, Great Williams took Batman.

1590
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: He is trying he's trying to take and the Jerry

1591
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: Judy drama of The game was interesting because when things

1592
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: are going hideous, when they fall behind twenty seven nothing,

1593
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 1: there's a play um after a fourth down failure. Russell

1594
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: wills and also threw a pick six in this game,

1595
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: by the way, um there was a fourth down failure.

1596
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: Judy comes off the field, takes his helmet off, a

1597
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: teammate tries to put his arm around him and consolve.

1598
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: He throw his teammate's arm away. A referee kind of

1599
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: gets in his area, cut bumps the referee, and he

1600
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 1: wasn't even penalized for it, let alone. He should have

1601
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: been thrown out of the game, in line with I'm

1602
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 1: glad they didn't, but like that's how that's what usually

1603
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: happens when you make contact with the ref goes back

1604
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: to the island. Just furious with the state of the

1605
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: offense in the season. Uh so if Denver fans are

1606
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: looking for any positives here. He then went off with

1607
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 1: three touchdowns in the game and was targeted um with

1608
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 1: regularity by Wilson and then later ripping so season. The

1609
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 1: last Broncos quarterback to beat the Chiefs is Peyton Manning

1610
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: m a long time ago. It's uh, it's kind of

1611
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: just like I hit your six foot put uh Sunday

1612
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: here for all the A f C top seeds. I mean,

1613
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: they were tricky games, but they all Buffalo, Kansas City, Baltimore, Cincinnati.

1614
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: All I was driving advance, I don't know. Alright, one

1615
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: more game to hit grave digger. Jump in here a second,

1616
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: as we have now traveled back to our respective home,

1617
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: meet the trafficker after the Chargers Dolphins showdown at so

1618
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: FI Stadium. Huge a f C implications, but not just

1619
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 1: implications for those teams, but also our producer, Justin Graver.

1620
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: He's producing career at a crossroads, as he had the

1621
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 1: great Bongo fiasco um of a couple of hours earlier,

1622
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: and now we find out what will happen after this

1623
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: next highlight? How you feeling very nervous, heart pounding through

1624
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: my chest. All I could promise you is that the

1625
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: reaction will be fair one way or the other. Good?

1626
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: All right, That's all I can ask for. Alright, hit it, wait,

1627
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: switched by Herbert out of the pocket. Two receivers this

1628
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: side down, touchdown, my volumes. What a difference having I'm

1629
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:06,520
Speaker 1: back in the line up. No, what if the Dolphins

1630
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: completed that comeback? Then it makes sense. Of course, this

1631
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: was a Bongo's game, This was the game of the week.

1632
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: This was, of course where they saved their season. It's

1633
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: the outlownments. Now we got shorthanded and you're in a

1634
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: no win scenario. Justin, No matter what you had done,

1635
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: there would have been that this was We're gonna give it.

1636
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: We are going to give Justin a chance to save

1637
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:37,879
Speaker 1: his broadcasting career right now. Let's re rack it, highlight

1638
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: and do it the right way, and we'll pretend this

1639
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 1: whole ugly affair never happened. That's how much I care

1640
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: about you, Justin. How much will we pretend like edited

1641
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: out or no, it's gonna be in here. No, there

1642
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: is a there is a penance that you're paying right now,

1643
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: but we're also giving you a shot at redemption here.

1644
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: It's like, how is this redemption? He's just doing what

1645
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: we're telling him to do, following our orders at every turn.

1646
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: Are you just are you just realizing now how stupid

1647
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: this show is. Mark Justin understands how I feel about

1648
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: nineteen two out of twenty pranks that unfold on the show,

1649
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: just getting tugged around on a leash. There's no prank

1650
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: I think it good. Producing is doing exactly what you

1651
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: guys want. So sorry, Mark, but I wanted the bond, guys. Okay,

1652
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: here it is wait switched by Herbert out of the pocket.

1653
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: Two receivers this side down, touchdown my folio. What a

1654
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: difference having him back in the light. Oh yeah, doesn't

1655
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: it feel right? Did you do? Did you do? Do? Justin? Herbert?

1656
01:26:53,920 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: He hears you, Manuel Ajo and all the other haters

1657
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 1: out there, and he just goes on national television against

1658
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: to Ah and just wipes the floor with it. Justin

1659
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 1: Herbert through for three hundred and sixty seven yards and

1660
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: that score to his old buddy Mike Williams, who was

1661
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: back in a big way in this game. And never

1662
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: mind the final score. The Chargers took it to the

1663
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 1: Dolphins twenty three to seventeen at Sophie Stadium, And yeah,

1664
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: you get the bongos because Greg Rosenthal. These Chargers, as

1665
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: we've talked about in recent weeks, sometimes it feels like

1666
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: in recent years, there's always this idea of what they

1667
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: could be if only this went right this way, if

1668
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 1: this play went differently, if this guy stayed health healthy,

1669
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: if this entire side of the ball stayed health but

1670
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: in a game where they were missing many key players,

1671
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: Herbert kind of lifted everyone else up with a brilliant game.

1672
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching this so much because I was so

1673
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: wrong about it. I felt as surprised almost about this

1674
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: game is almost any game all year. The fact that

1675
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: they dominated in that way and that Herbert did it

1676
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: as this like Bravara performance. That as Chris collins Worth

1677
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 1: going insane saying it's one of those, you know, best

1678
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: quarterback performances of the year. I agree with them, though,

1679
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: and I think those two drives, the one to end

1680
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 1: the first half and then the long field goal drive

1681
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, showed everything that Herbert can do.

1682
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: He was under pressure so much. He made more throws

1683
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: under pressure and on the run today completions, accordion next

1684
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: gens A's than any quarterback since they've started keeping track.

1685
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: He had the deep passes. He had that third down

1686
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: to Keenan Allen where there was absolutely nowhere to fit

1687
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: it to start that fourth quarter drive. It was clutch

1688
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: as all hell. It was talent, it was mental, it

1689
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: was everything where with a little help, and Mike Williams

1690
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: was that help, you got to see the full Herbert yeah.

1691
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think one of the lowlier aspects to

1692
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: this season for me was that I came into the

1693
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 1: year with so much excitement about the Chargers, what they

1694
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 1: could be, who Justin Herbert was to me, and it's

1695
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: been months of not feeling that way and a lot

1696
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: of it has to do with missing figures on both

1697
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,839
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. But they were missing six defensive

1698
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: starters to night totally dominated Miami. That's a Brandon Staley

1699
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: win as well. It's not just Justin Herbert. And I

1700
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 1: thought that Greg, you nailed it on that that drive

1701
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 1: before halftime, thirteen plays ninety yards. What an incredible drive

1702
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 1: by Herbert and just the throws that he made and

1703
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 1: how he deals with pressure, and then on that field

1704
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: goal drive. Part of it is not just the arm power.

1705
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 1: It's like he had that incredible ten yard run where

1706
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 1: he shows you he can do it all. And I

1707
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: know even when he makes um the rare mistake when

1708
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: there was the botched snap, it for him to dive

1709
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 1: under essentially around his center and get the ball to

1710
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 1: make sure that they don't lose the chance to kick

1711
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: that field goal, which changed everything for them. This is

1712
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: a quarter a playing at the top of his game,

1713
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,480
Speaker 1: and I just think it's hilarious to watch this online

1714
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: nonsense about justin Herbert not being as good as people think,

1715
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: Like it's just that this team has been through so much.

1716
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: He's finally healthy. You have Alan back, you have Mike

1717
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Williams back, you got Corey Lindsley back, which mattered a lot,

1718
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 1: and you've got this version of the Chargers. It changes

1719
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: how I feel about this Los Angeles team going forward.

1720
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: I that for me that remains to be seen, just

1721
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: because they're so up and down as a unit. Um.

1722
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: But at the same time, the thing about the discourse

1723
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: of Ta and Herbert, you know, pick back to back

1724
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: in the same draft class. What annoyed me and I

1725
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 1: think annoyed a lot of football fans that are actually

1726
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: watching the games, is that you have to kind of

1727
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 1: sometimes look beyond the box score. And Ta has filled

1728
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,799
Speaker 1: up the box score beautifully this season for long stretches.

1729
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this is an indictment of two

1730
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 1: as a player, although that's two rough games in a

1731
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: row for him, But just watching the abilities of Herbert

1732
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: and the things makes him special. Like my favorite play

1733
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 1: in football is the Herbert play. Where he drops back

1734
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: to the opposite hash and then throws across the field

1735
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 1: sixty yards on the line to a wide receiver. There's

1736
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 1: very few guys I can do I can even imagine

1737
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 1: two are trying to do that. But of course two

1738
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 1: wins in a different way. Um, but I think it

1739
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 1: is notable that two did start this game three for

1740
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:25,640
Speaker 1: seventeen while Herbert was doing all this, and when he

1741
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: connects with Tyreek Hill for that touchdown in the third

1742
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 1: quarter and makes it a game again, this is again

1743
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 1: where you credit the Los Angeles defense, the shorthanded defense,

1744
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:39,759
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, a defensive minded head coach. Uh. They tightened

1745
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,879
Speaker 1: things up after that. They didn't let the game spiral

1746
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: when I kind of felt that that was a direction

1747
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: that this game could go. And my other thought was,

1748
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 1: good job Chargers by not charging, because yes, Herbert better

1749
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: get down. Don't pull Cam Newton when you botch that snap,

1750
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: and that was on him. It appeared to be get

1751
01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: that ball because if you if you lose after that

1752
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: brilliant drive, lose a fumble inside the tent and then

1753
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: lose by a point, oh my god, and then the

1754
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 1: onside kicks bouncing around and that almost gets botched as well.

1755
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: But in both cases, the Chargers kind of just got

1756
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: the job done. And you just don't see that enough

1757
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: with this franchise in general. You know, I know, I know,

1758
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: like Tyreek Hill obviously was dealing with the injury that

1759
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 1: and the way they were talking about the end was

1760
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: more of a shin injury and they're not wanting it

1761
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: to swell up and stuff. But he he still made plays.

1762
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: But do you feel like Brandon Staley learned or took

1763
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 1: something from the way that the Niners pressed Waddle pressed

1764
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: Hill a week ago, because it's two weeks in a

1765
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: row and this has not been They had a few

1766
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: up and down moments in their offense, but Waddle and

1767
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 1: Hill have been unstoppable essentially, no matter what's going on

1768
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 1: with a run game and stuff. And that's two games

1769
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: in a row where I thought they did an effective

1770
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: job and for in this case, it's with a lot

1771
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: of people missing on that defense tonight. Oh yeah, let's

1772
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: be real. The only reason that the chart the Tophins

1773
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: were even in this game is because Tyreek Hill gets

1774
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: a fifty seven yard fumble recovery or else that This

1775
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: feels more like a blowout. They still he ended up

1776
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: with two nineteen yards. They got doubled up by the

1777
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 1: Chargers in total yards. And other teams are gonna look

1778
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: at this. And these are two teams, Miami and San

1779
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 1: Francisco that sort of have the genes of a press

1780
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 1: man coverage team. We've seen the league really just go

1781
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 1: into a total zone league. I mean, even teams that

1782
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 1: play a lot of man coverage, like you know the Forts,

1783
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: they still don't play it that much. But these two

1784
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 1: teams are able to do it because they have the personnel,

1785
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 1: they have the coaching and absolutely think the Patriots are

1786
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: watching this. They did a good job with a similar

1787
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 1: game plan in Week one. The fact that the Dolphins

1788
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: came back to the pack a little bit now in

1789
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 1: the a f C playoff picture, by losing these two games,

1790
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 1: it makes you worry. It has to be into his

1791
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: head a little bit. Everyone knows what was going into

1792
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 1: this game. There were some throws in this game that

1793
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 1: just sort of crazy, terrible throws where he seemed spooked

1794
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: a little afraid to make the throw and was just

1795
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: like way off target where he thought it was in

1796
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 1: his head. He he recovered a little bit, but those

1797
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 1: this is the guy we were talking about as an

1798
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 1: m v P king, and I wasn't exactly two weeks ago,

1799
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: and these are two weeks where I would say it

1800
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 1: was his two worst games of the season by far

1801
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,560
Speaker 1: in a row in December, at the time of the

1802
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: year that Mike McDaniel says, we're also lucky to get

1803
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: to that. The Dolphins don't feel like they're embracing December

1804
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:23,480
Speaker 1: right now. They gotta go to Buffalo now on Saturday

1805
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 1: night and on NFL Network, and it's like, Man, you're

1806
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 1: gonna have that's a big time show me something game.

1807
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: Because I'm like, based on what we've seen for Miami

1808
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks, based on you know

1809
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: who they really did a lot of their damage against

1810
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: this season, I don't have high expectations for their offense

1811
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: to thrive in that environment, especially like we saw it

1812
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: with the Jets and Bills today. If the elements play

1813
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 1: a factor, I think they're supposed to be snow in

1814
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: the forecast in the upcoming weekend. So there's a that's

1815
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: a there's a fork in the road now for the Dolphins,

1816
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 1: who still are in position for the playoffs, but things

1817
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 1: get very interesting very quick. Really, if they lose again

1818
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: on Saturday night, and last week they their defense played

1819
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 1: almost eighty snaps they did again tonight, you gotta quickly

1820
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: go to Buffalo, where it is meant to snow. The

1821
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: weather is gonna be a huge factor. You got to

1822
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 1: play it down in simmering hot Miami the first time,

1823
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 1: and that affected the Bills. But in reverse, I don't

1824
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: like that situation for Miami at all. Just how much,

1825
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 1: how many snaps they've had to play on defense. This

1826
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: is the time of year where that kind of stuff

1827
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 1: matters have a big impact. I'd like to think that

1828
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 1: this game is when we're gonna look back at as

1829
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 1: a fork in the road game. I'm not sure about

1830
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins like falling apart, but especially in the positive

1831
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 1: sense for the Chargers, they have the Titans, Colts, Rams,

1832
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 1: and Broncos. So after that Titans game, that's a big

1833
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Week fifteen game. You know that that's a that's a

1834
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: good looking schedule. As a Jets fan, Dan, I know

1835
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 1: you were weirdly rooting for the Dolphins in this game,

1836
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 1: and I think that made sense to me. And now

1837
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 1: that the Chargers want it and if they can somehow

1838
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 1: get their defense playing well. With Herbert, the whole seven

1839
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: seed seems much more common. Poacadd to me, Now, yeah,

1840
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 1: you know what, as I'm watching the game in the

1841
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 1: second half and I'm starting to examine the possibilities, I

1842
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: realized that kind of either way, there was a way

1843
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,679
Speaker 1: to look at it in a positive standpoint, because obviously,

1844
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 1: now the Dolphins dropped this game, if like many people think,

1845
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 1: and the Desert will feel this way, and that's how

1846
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 1: I feel. Let's say they don't beat Buffalo on the road,

1847
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're eight and six, and if

1848
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 1: the Jets beat the Lines, they're tied and they have

1849
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: a head to head matchup in week eighteen. So this

1850
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. This wild card race in the

1851
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 1: a f C is excellent. And oh, by the way, uh,

1852
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: the first tiebreaker for the Dolphins and Chargers is head

1853
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,679
Speaker 1: to head, and now the Chargers have that so big game,

1854
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: fun game. The I'm gonna avoid I'm gonna be busy

1855
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 1: anyway with power rankings, but I'm gonna have no issue

1856
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: avoiding the online discourse around to it. And Herbert, Uh,

1857
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a lot of people taking victory lapse

1858
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 1: or being on the defensive. I'm just gonna sit all

1859
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 1: that that, sit all that out and just say that

1860
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 1: was cool seeing Herbert do that thing today and and

1861
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: the Chargers in general, just a nice win for them.

1862
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: Also an L for Brandon Stanley, Who's I mean for

1863
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, who's made it clear he wants to coach

1864
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: either the Chargers of the Dolphins. I feel like now

1865
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: that not now neither is going to happen. Well, let's

1866
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 1: let's let's see the cher with the Chargers. You know what,

1867
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, they traffic in a certain type of football,

1868
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and that's we get your hopes up and

1869
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: then we bring you Now they've done it to me

1870
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 1: again already. H but O great digger before we say goodbye?

1871
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 1: Whoa speaking of forks in the road and you know

1872
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 1: everything on the line? Titans Chargers Week fifteen, somebody's in

1873
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 1: trouble after that one. Is now a good time for

1874
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 1: me to tell you, guys, I'm going to that game.

1875
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna lock it up? Oh I am done locking

1876
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 1: the Titans and might just be done locking. Honestly, I'm

1877
01:37:53,920 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 1: on a five game losing stream. All right, Hey, listen, listen,

1878
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 1: not everything went your way today, justin but I thought

1879
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 1: you really did uh comport yourself as a professional and

1880
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: in the end you did get the bongos when they

1881
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 1: were needed. So thank you, thank you, No, of course,

1882
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 1: anything for you guys. One more game on the schedule.

1883
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:25,480
Speaker 1: He's like two of one more game, New England at Arizona.

1884
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal with special guest Nate Tys. Oh yeah, that's right, Tice.

1885
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: That's great. I love I love Nates. The Cardinals are

1886
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: in primetime again and the Patriots. Then the Cardinals are

1887
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: back on on Christmas. To what in the hell is

1888
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 1: going on? I am invading that little cube in Park

1889
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Avenue next next spring and making sure this never happens

1890
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,759
Speaker 1: again this this prime time schedule. There will be flex

1891
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 1: games on Monday Night Football next year, which I think

1892
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 1: is great news for everyone. Mm hmm, especially Joe Buck.

1893
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: All right, thank you everybody for listening. We have another

1894
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 1: big week of show is coming up, so thank you

1895
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: for following us all season long. Let's get out of here.

1896
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:19,640
Speaker 1: Dan Hands is signing off for Quiet Storm, the old Boss,

1897
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: the grave digger, and everyone behind the glass that does

1898
01:39:25,360 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: the job until Monday. He the call m s