1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys football clubs. Are you ready for 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 7 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, December third, two, twenty, season sixteen, 8 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: episode number seventy four. Welcome to the latest edition of 9 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: the Break Life in the s WBC Mortgage studios at 10 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: the Star. Dave and Nick are there. Amber and I 11 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: are at our own homes, and we got forty five 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: minutes from you guys of Cowboys Talk. We got Bucky 13 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: Brooks is going to be joining us here in just 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: a moment, so we could talk a little bit about 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: the Baltimore defense versus the Cowboys offense. Before we do that, though, 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: we do need to get a catch get caught up 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: on a few injury updates. Nick talked to us about 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: the injury updates on Anthony Brown Alden Smith and surprised 19 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: when Trayvon digs well, it doesn't sound like Alden Smith 20 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: is too bad. I think he may just be, you know, sick, 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: and which I know, you know, it's always kind of 22 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: scary this time of year. But I think he's just 23 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: got maybe a minor cold or something. I don't think 24 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: it's anything major for him. Anthony Brown, I'm gonna defer 25 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: Dave on that one. I think he's I haven't. I 26 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: well they I mean, that's the thing is this this 27 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: week is so weird. They didn't put out a practice 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: right yesterday. I haven't heard anything new on him. I think, 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, the extra time off will probably help him. 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: You know, we heard that he was going to try 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: to give it a go going into the Thanksgiving game. 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: Obviously couldn't do it. So I'm optimistic. Yeah, I'm optimistic. 33 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: But you know, we've learned that Mike McCarthy's not going 34 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: to give out information that he doesn't have to, and 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: so you know, part of this weird week is that 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: you don't have the normal practice reports, and I don't 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: know if they have to they probably, Yeah, they don't 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: have to do one today either because it's a very 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: light football day for them with Marcus Paul's memorial. So yeah, 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: tomorrow will probably be our first chance to really get 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: a good look at it. Trayvon Diggs. Um, you know 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: he was. We saw him yesterday running a little bit um. 43 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: You know, obviously out of the walking boot and with 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: the broken foot. He looks pretty good out there, just 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: just from you know, the nature of the injury against 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and so um. You know, I talked to Stephen 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Jones yesterday and he said that he, you know, that 48 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: they're really confident that he will be able to play 49 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: at some point this season, and even said maybe sooner 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: than than they expected. So then you go back to 51 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: what was expected was four to six weeks, I believe, 52 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: and I think the injury was November the eighth, so 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: December eighth, you know, that's about four weeks. And then 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: you know I would say maybe I would say, maybe 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: there's a chance for Cincinnati game. Maybe. You know. It's funny, 56 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: is like, it's those things always depend on the player, right, 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Like we talked about obviously the injury itself, like the 58 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: timetable for return. But what I'm trying to say is, 59 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, like Zach Martin, depending on how these next 60 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: few games go, You're like, yeah, maybe we don't need 61 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: to see Zach again this year, you know, depending on 62 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 1: how they play. I mean, he's he's an all pro. 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: I've seen plenty of Zach Martin, but Treyvon Diggs, I'm like, 64 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: get out there, buddy, Let's get some repsa way. Yeah, 65 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: if if they lose every game between now and the 66 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: and the season finale, but those two guys can play 67 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: against the Giants, absolutely play. Get in there and get 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: some reps. Yeah, that's the thing about it. At this point, 69 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: you're trying. You're really playing for next year anyway, and 70 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: whether it's your draft pick or whether it is actually 71 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: looking at these younger guys. So it makes a ton 72 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: of sense to get him back, even if he plays 73 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: for just one game, It makes a ton of sense 74 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: to get him back in there and give him some 75 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: reps that otherwise he wouldn't get until next season. All right, Well, 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: here's what's gonna do. We're gonna go ahead and flip 77 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: on to Bucky Brooks. Bucky should be joining us here 78 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: right now from NFL Network. Bucky, Welcome to the show. 79 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: We want to talk a little bit about this Baltimore 80 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: defense versus the Cowboys offense. It was an interesting game yesterday. 81 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: They didn't have a lot of their parts but they 82 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: played a very very competitive game. Talk to me specifically 83 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: on the defense about the greatest weakness and the greatest 84 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: strength of this Baltimore defense. The greatest strength of the 85 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: Baltimore defense is their ability to bring pressure and the 86 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: unique scheme that they employ. They're a team that is 87 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: a high pressure team. They line up in their three 88 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: four defense, they bring pressure from everywhere, and then they 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: compliment that what we will call simulated pressure, meaning it 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: looks like they're bringing more, but it's only four and 91 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: they're dropping seven. And so they give the offense a 92 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: lot to think about when it comes to all the 93 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: pre snap movement and disguise. I would say their biggest 94 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: weakness has nothing to do with their personnel, but their 95 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: ability to stay locked and engage over the course of 96 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: a sixty minute game. It's a very emotional unit. You 97 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: have some guys who kind of are red liners when 98 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: it comes to their emotional mentality, and so you just 99 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: wonder can they keep it together. Marcus Peters and some 100 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: of those other guys. Matt Uton, We've seen those guys 101 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: have penalties, and so a lot of it really depends 102 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: on width set of guys show up. Because they show 103 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: up and they want to be the Baltimore Ravens that 104 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: play at a high level. They can absolutely obliterate with 105 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: what they do on defense. Bucky, talk to me about 106 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: the run defense. We keep wanting the Cowboys to be 107 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: able to run the ball better and more. So, let 108 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: me know, how is this going to be a problem 109 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: once again or are they gonna be able to get 110 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: the ball move in in this game? Well, it really 111 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: depends on the personnel that's available for the Rave Brandon 112 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: Williams and Kalias Campbell played. Then it becomes tough sledding 113 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: with the running game. If those guys are not available, 114 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: then they have been gutted in the last few games, 115 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: like prior to the game against Pittsburgh, three of the 116 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: last four games they have been outrushed by their opponent. 117 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: And so there's some vulnerabilities there when they don't have 118 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: their big guys available. But if those big guys are there, 119 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: it becomes a little tougher, it becomes a little stouter. 120 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: And then when they begin to add the pressure and 121 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: start sending guys from the second level and attacking how 122 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: you run and blowing up your running game and really 123 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: attacking your protections, it can be a very long day 124 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: for the offense. Okay, Bucky, I mean, I obviously know 125 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: who this guy is because of where he was drafted 126 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: and where he played, But Nias tell me about Marlon Humphrey, 127 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: like I don't get to watch the Ravens a ton. 128 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: I know he's a good player, but like my suspicion 129 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: is that he's like one of the more underrated cornerbacks 130 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: in the league. Am I right on that or am 131 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: I a little bit off base? I don't it just 132 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: it seems like he's not getting his due for how 133 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: well he's played over the last couple of seasons. He's 134 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: been a very good player. He's a Pro Bowl caliber player. 135 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: He has played at that level. He does a really 136 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: good job in coverage, and what he has become is 137 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: the master of the old peanut punch, which is what 138 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: Charles Tillman made famous in Chicago when he always knocked 139 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: the ball out. Where Marlin Humphrey has become a guy 140 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: that has a knack for knocking the ball out. And 141 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: so for Ezekiel Elliott and Mary Cooper and Ceedee Lamb 142 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: and guys that are handling the ball on the perimeter, 143 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: they have to be aware of where number fifty four 144 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: is because he has a knack for prying the ball loose, 145 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: and so it's not just him, it's everybody. But Marlin 146 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: Huphy has been a very very good player in coverage 147 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: and he's also found a way to consistently create turnovers. Bucky, 148 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: obviously in Baltimore kept that game close yesterday. They had 149 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: what twenty twenty three guys on the COVID list. Do 150 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: you think that it was a benefit to face the 151 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: Steelers or you know, a negative thing because they're an 152 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: undefeated team. I mean, they seemed like that familiarity with 153 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh almost helped them. Yeah, And I think Robberry games 154 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: are always unique like that. Sometimes you have to throw 155 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: out the record. Yeah, there's a level of familiarity with 156 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore playing Pittsburgh, and also the way Pittsburgh plays, because 157 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh doesn't really try and run the ball. So it's 158 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: all about defending the short passing game from the Stillers, 159 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: as we saw a few weeks ago when the Cowboys 160 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: played them. I think the thing about the Ravens, it 161 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: was a very very solid effort, but there's a sense 162 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: of frustration that is going on with the organization because 163 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: this is a team that came in with title hopes 164 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: and they certainly have underperformed offensively. They're struggling and they 165 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: don't really have an identity. That leads to the defense 166 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: being frustrated because the offense isn't performing to that level. 167 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: And so when I talk about it being a very 168 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: emotional group, it's kind of like an emotional powder kig, 169 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: and they can blow it any time, and if you 170 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: give them enough reasons, they will self destruct. And they're 171 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: teetering on the break and we've seen it the last 172 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, Fucky. The Baltimore defense has allowed three 173 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: hundred plus passing yards only once this season, and that 174 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: was to what most people agree is the best offense 175 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: in the league in Kansas City. They hit him for 176 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: three eighty five. Is their past defense so good because 177 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: of their pressure or is it the secondary and their coverage. 178 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: It's funny because I saw Dave Hellman's tweet when he 179 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: was talking about I'm trying to figure out pressure and 180 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: coverage which matters more. I would say that pressure always 181 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: matters more than coverage because it forces the quarterback to 182 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: throw the ball under the rest arrant, throws tips overthrows 183 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: typically happen when they're hurried, and if you hit the 184 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: quarterback early, it changes the way that he performs. And 185 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: so for Baltimore it is all about the pressure and 186 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: how they do it. That said, they're guys in the 187 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: back end can be had. Marcus Peters is a gambler. 188 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: He squats on routes. He has great instincts and eyes, 189 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: but he guesses and if you can protect up front, 190 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: you certainly can get him on double moves. Ailin Humphrey 191 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: is a little more sounding his technique. He is more 192 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: difficult to kind of get on those double moves. But 193 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters is the one that you want to target. 194 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: But it's still a sense of buyer beware because if 195 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: you keep throwing the ball over there, he is going 196 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: to make a play, even though he may give up 197 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: a few plays. I want to ask you this question 198 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: because I've seen a few fans make this common. Despite 199 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: of all the struggles that the Ravens are currently facing 200 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: and having backups and all that, when you look to 201 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: evaluate both teams, are the Ravens still a better team 202 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: than the Cowboys currently? Yes, I would say the Ravens 203 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: are a better team because their defense is more consistent 204 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: and more dominant. Offensively, the offensive line is probably a 205 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: push because their struggles on offense have centered around their 206 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: offensive line being unable to control the point of attack. 207 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: The thing that makes them right is number eight. Lamar 208 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: Jackson can make him right with his athleticism, and when 209 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: they are committed to the running game and they're not 210 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: trying to be cute, they can run it down your throat. 211 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: What happened against to Pittsburgh still is yesterday may have 212 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: been a blessing in the size. They had to get 213 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: back to running the ball out of these tight, compacted 214 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: looks with these heavy for personnel informations, three tight ends. 215 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: That's really how they ran over the league last year. 216 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: Maybe it forces Greg Roman to get back to that 217 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: because when they play like that, that's when they're the 218 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: most dangerous team. Even though Hollywood Brown and Willie Snead 219 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: and those guys have been celebrated, they're more effective when 220 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: they really played in a phone booth as opposed to 221 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: play spread. I'm gonna ask this question knowing full well 222 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: that it might not matter because off the Dallas offensive 223 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: line is a mess. So I get that, but you know, 224 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: you look at you look at Baltimore's front, and there's 225 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: like there's a whole bunch of names you recognize. You know, Campbell, 226 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: everybody knows Calais Campbell, everybody knows Janick and gok Way. 227 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: Even you know, Matthew Uton has had a nice you know, 228 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: he's playing on the I believe he's playing on the tag. 229 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: Had a nice season last year. But none of those 230 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: guys are really blowing it up this year. So if 231 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking, you know, if I'm looking at their front 232 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: and again, I understand that they'll probably win a lot 233 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: of matchups because of the state of this offensive line, 234 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: But which one should worry me the most? Like, I mean, 235 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: which Dallas offensive lineman has got the toughest assignment coming 236 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: into this game? You know, like it's really tough because 237 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: the way they can overload the front and the way 238 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: they bring pressure. They bring pressure to really isolate your 239 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. And so I would say the two edge 240 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: rushers have difficulty, Brandon Knighte and tern Steel, because we've 241 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: seen those difficulties showing up. They show up on tape. 242 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: But then even on the inside, depending on where Kelas 243 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: Campbell lines up, it could be kind of Williams or 244 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: kind of McGovern Both of those guys could have problems. 245 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: And so this is a game where the individuals have 246 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: to play well, and it's going to be hard for 247 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: guys to help each other because they're going to put 248 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: enough bodies at the line of scrimmage where they can 249 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: create those one on ones through pressure. And then really 250 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: it's about skilled on skill and right now that tips 251 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: in the Baltimore Ravens favor. All right, Becky, I'm gonna 252 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: ask this from any perspective that you want to take, it, 253 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: would Earl Thomas have helped this team or I'll say 254 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: it this way. Are you surprised going back to summer 255 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: that Earl Thomas is not in this game. No, not 256 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: at all surprised. And I say this being an Earl 257 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: Thomas fan because we have mutual connections my guy coach 258 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: to Mac Brown. But Earl was not a model citizen 259 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: in the locker room. Earl had got to the point 260 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,599 Speaker 1: where he was freelancing to a point that it was 261 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: hard to hold him accountable, and some of his behaviors 262 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: as a veteran player, rubbed not only his teammates wrong, 263 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: but rubbed the coach is wrong. And so it made 264 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: it very, very difficult to kind of establish and create 265 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: the culture that you want when you have a player 266 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: who is so egregious in his actions. And I think 267 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: that is also part of the reason why he hasn't 268 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: been picked up to this point, because the reports that 269 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: come out of Baltimore just about his relationships and accountability 270 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: in the things that he's doing in the locker room 271 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: just made it very very difficult. And I don't know 272 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: if in Dallas, when you are a new regime and 273 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: you're trying to kind of establish something, I don't know 274 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: if it would have been positive in terms of his 275 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: influence on the younger players, on top of his willingness 276 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: to freelance and do his own think in the back end. 277 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: And I'll just ask this. I was going to ask, 278 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: do you think he ever plays again in the NFL? Nice? Seriously, Yeah, 279 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: I think. I think. I think time heals all woes. 280 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: But I felt like it was gonna be a difficult 281 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: road for him getting back into the league this year, 282 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: just because of the pandemic and everything and all the 283 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: stuff that was coming out. When you have a full 284 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: year away and you have an opportunity to kind of 285 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: build up the pr campaign and show some contrition and 286 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: some of those things. Yeah, he has an opportunity to 287 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: get back into the league. But I'll say this, he's 288 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: not the player that he was in Seattle Age and 289 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: injuries have taken away some of his skills, and then 290 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: it becomes a risk and reward like and my risking 291 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: blowing up my locker room, and the reward is not 292 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: really what I think I'm getting. I think that is 293 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: what he has to show that he not only can 294 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: be a good player in the locker room, but he 295 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: still has enough skills to take on all the stuff 296 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: that comes along with him. Yeah, that's what I call 297 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: the t O effect. All right, Bucky, before we let 298 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: you go, we do want to get to the final. 299 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: Your final prediction on what you think will happen on 300 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: next Tuesday. Who wins this game and why six stays away? 301 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: Tough man, Hey Ben the very I think this is 302 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: a tough game because Lamar Jackson comes back, and I 303 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: think Lamar Jackson having the time of way to look 304 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: at the game from the side will enable him to 305 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: get back into a rhythm. And this is a must 306 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: game for the Baltimore Ravens. So I think you're probably 307 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: gonna see the best effort from them. With mark Ingram 308 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: coming back, JK. Dobbins and all the guys that set out, 309 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a tough one. The odds are 310 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: stacked against the Cowboys, not only from a talent standpoint, 311 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: but also in terms of a motivation standpoint. This is 312 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: a highly motivated team coming in. Yeah, it's very interested. 313 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: I was watching that game yesterday. I was just thinking 314 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: to myself, if this is what the Baltimore Ravens are 315 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: without half their team, it's gonna be really tough when 316 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: they get all those Well, we'll see how it goes. Hey, Bucky, 317 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: we appreciate you joining us. We'll be back with you 318 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: next week so we can start talking a little bit 319 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: about the Cincinnati Bengals. We're gonna take our first break 320 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: and we come back. We're gonna get some questions, so 321 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: get your questions in. You can hit us at Cowboys 322 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: Break on Twitter. Amber will get those questions. We'll answer 323 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: some of those questions throughout the remainder of the show. 324 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 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I don't 369 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: know what happened there. I lost all you guys for 370 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: a second. I hope I didn't cut off your read Nick. 371 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: But let's jump right back in. We're gonna take some 372 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: questions throughout the remainder of the show. I did have 373 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: one question for you guys before we get to the 374 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: fan questions. Remember, if you guys have questions, you can 375 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: hit us at Cowboys Break on Twitter. But this question 376 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: I want, I want to go around the table and answer. 377 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens right now lead the league and fumble recoveries, 378 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: forced fumbles. If you're Mike McCarthy, what are you saying 379 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: to Zeke this week? Let's start with you, Dave. I mean, 380 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: what is there to say? What is there to say? 381 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: And December to a guy who's been playing running back, 382 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: who was eight, who's on the biggest salary in the league, 383 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: like hold onto the damn ball? Like like at this point, 384 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm I kind of this sounds counterintuitive, Like Mike McCarthy 385 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to say anything to him. Just do it, 386 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: do it literally like that's I don't care that the 387 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: yards per carry isn't that great. I don't care that 388 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: the explosive runs aren't there. This whole season is working 389 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: against the running back position. Don't get me wrong, it 390 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: would be awesome if Zeke could do that stuff. But 391 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't care. Just hold onto the ball like that's 392 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: that's how low my expectations are by now. Just don't fumble, 393 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: and and nobody should have to tell Ezekiel Elliot at 394 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: that agreed. Oh go ahead, Nick agree, I just agree. 395 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't know what you can say. 396 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: Just just hang on to the football. This defense is playing, 397 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: I know, I know. Let him have it. Let's go 398 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: give me a real ag ramp. Okay, right now, hear 399 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: me out, hear me out. This is gonna sound stupid, 400 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: but if you think about it, that's Trually, it's actually 401 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: pretty smart. You get seek to play with no sleeves, right, 402 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: no sleeves. You buy some um you know that perspirin 403 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: or anti perspirin deodorant that makes you like protects you 404 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 1: from sweating. You put some on and then on the 405 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: arms and then you buy some stinky ass glue. That's 406 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: what it's called. There's one that they sell. It's like 407 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: rat glue, and you put it on right here. Okay, 408 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean no one would know, No one would know, 409 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: And I think that would be pretty smart. He hangs 410 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: onto the ball. It stinks on there. I don't know 411 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 1: if that would be cheating. It's just being smarter than 412 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: the opponent there, I think. And that's just finding a 413 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: little solution to the problem. Do you think Amber has 414 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: any idea? Who Fred Bulitnikoff is no, But yeah I 415 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: think she does. I get where you're going. I mean 416 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: she's saying, yeah, wow, yeah, I don't. I mean, I've 417 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: been around for a long time. Anybody listening to this 418 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: show has probably seen their replacements. You remember Orlando Brown 419 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: just dipped his hands and stick him because he couldn't 420 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: catch the ball. Yeah, just yeah, let's get some pine 421 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: tar and just coat Zeke before the game. That's my suggestion. 422 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: Problem just the whole body. Just the whole body, or 423 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: at least from the shoulders to the to the fingertips, 424 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: the whole thing, both arms. But it's second in name. Hey, 425 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: you gotta find the solution. You're right, and desperate times 426 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: call for desperate measures. Yeah, Like at this point, Mike 427 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: McCarthy's like, bro, I've been telling you to hold onto 428 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: the ball since September. Like we're getting we're getting drastic 429 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: in here. You know what he could do is he 430 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 1: could make um like their hotel keys could say like 431 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: protect the ball on it or something, the ball the ball, 432 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: because I don't know if if the hotel they're just 433 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: regular That's what it was. They're just regular keys there. 434 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: They don't say like the balls. Zeke didn't. Zeke didn't 435 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: care about that except when he checked out on Sunday 436 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: mornings he saw on his hotel key. That's what it was. 437 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: I guess is that a terrible him? Sorry Jason Garrett 438 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: used to put it. Oh yeah, maybe they will. They're 439 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: going back on the road. Yeah, let's let's do it. 440 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: Would you guys, would you guys consider it all using 441 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: less of Zeke and more of Pollard in a game 442 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: like this, Uh, less meaning that Pollard gets more of 443 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: the workload. I don't think so. And that's not like 444 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a salary thing. It's not 445 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's not because they're like, like, because I 446 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: would be afraid to do it. But I just, I mean, 447 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: Zeke is still I insist that Zeke is still a 448 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: good football player. You're gonna need multiple running backs to 449 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: beat a physical team like this. I don't. I mean, 450 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm not like it's a classic situation of like what 451 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: we've only seen. We've probably the high for Tony Pollard's careers, 452 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: like twelve carries. Never seen what it looks like if 453 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard gets twenty carries, right, And don't know if 454 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: it would be better. I don't say less z more Pollard, 455 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: I say more Polar, less Blake Bell or less Dalton Shoultzer. 456 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, just just put them back and there together 457 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: and maybe his snaps take over the two tight end 458 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: sets or maybe some eccentric Wilson's, you know whatever, whatever 459 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: they're doing. I just would like to see the rotation 460 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: involve him more and maybe him and Zeke more together. 461 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: That's what That's what I was gonna say. It's like 462 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: when you can't say, oh, ze versus Polar. But at 463 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I feel that they're not 464 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: really trying to run the ball as much period, Like 465 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who's the running back at that point, 466 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: I personally would like them just to keep trying to 467 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: run the ball a little bit more regardless of who 468 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: the running back is. Yeah, and if you look at 469 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: the matchup this week, it's clearly, in my opinion, favors 470 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: the ability to run over the ability to pass. They 471 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: have a really good pass defense. They've given up some 472 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: yards though, on the ground. Even Philadelphia hit him off 473 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety fo yards on the ground. And 474 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: we know the issues they have with their offensive line 475 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: and that they've had all season with the running backs 476 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: as well. So I think there's some opportunity there in 477 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: the run game if the Cowboys can be committed to 478 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: it and they can can block it up a little bit. 479 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some fan questions. Amber, what 480 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: do you have over there? Um? I know you guys 481 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: are going to start the draft show tomorrow, so maybe 482 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: we do a little preview on here because that's what 483 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: a lot of fans are asking. So here's the question 484 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: for you guys. Do you the Cowboys draft for a 485 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: three four defense or for a for three defense? Oh wow, 486 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: that's a great question. Hadn't even a great question? Yeah, 487 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: I hadn't considered it, um, I mean in the middle, 488 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of this season. It's kind of hard 489 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: to say. I mean, that's that's really that's the fun 490 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: thing about the draft process is which we'll see how 491 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: it changes because of the pandemic. But you know, you 492 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: go to the mobile and you go to Indie and 493 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: you kind of you get to talk to these people 494 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: away from microphones, may be over a drink or or 495 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: you just see you know, you find out who's on 496 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: their visit list. You're like, well, they're these guys, like 497 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: all the guys they're visiting with it the Combine or 498 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: these like six six, two hundred and thirty pound and 499 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: edge rushers, like they're looking at three four. I mean, 500 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: that's you know, that was how Dak Prescott first cropped 501 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: up on everybody's radars, that they met with him at 502 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: the Combine and then they brought him in and then 503 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: Wade Wilson went out to Mississippi State. So it's hard 504 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: to say that while they're still playing games. I really, 505 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't have a great answer for you, 506 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: just because we're so early in the process. My answer 507 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: to that is it needs to be the third question 508 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: that you that you answered. The first one is is 509 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith coming back? The second one is what defensive 510 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: scheme are you going to put him in? If he's 511 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: better suited for a three four, then fire, I mean, 512 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: then do that. And I think that they're right there 513 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: on the edge where they can kind of do that. 514 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory helps them, Neville Gallimore helps them. I think 515 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: play a three four. The law could probably go either 516 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: way there. So I think there's just a few pieces away. 517 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: But I would figure out what you're gonna do with 518 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, and I think he could be a three 519 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: four middle linebacker with Layton in the middle, but you 520 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: know you need other pieces if you're going to do that. 521 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: I'd like to try him, as I will say, but yeah, sorry, 522 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: go ahead, Derek, Now, I was just gonna say. I 523 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: think we all saw earlier this season and during training 524 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 1: camp that they have a preference to be a hybrid defense. 525 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: They want to be able to use some three four 526 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: So I would suspect that they're gonna probably try to 527 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: get some versatile players that can do both. I know 528 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: that's a hard thing to do, but that seems like 529 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: what they really want to do. Is is be a 530 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: hybrid defense that can morph based upon matchups, based upon 531 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: different times in games. And so I would expect they're 532 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: probably gonna get some players that may look like three 533 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: four players, but they're players that also can play the 534 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: four three as well. And I think they're gonna be 535 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: a They're gonna try to be at least a defense 536 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: that can give you multiple looks, multiple fronts. You were 537 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: just talking about Jayleen Smith, seeing the fact that he's 538 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: shown some coverage issues. Do you guys think that they 539 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: put a spy on Jackson? If they if they put 540 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: a spy on Jackson, would it be Layton vanderash Yeah, 541 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: Layton or Jalen Smith? Please, please God, please don't do 542 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: that to Jalen. Yeah, that's anyone, And I mean you're 543 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: right to any Jordan Lewis. Yeah, Jordan Lewis is probably 544 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: the best guy you've got. And I would and he 545 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't sleep at night, Jordan Jordan Lewis, He's he'd be like, 546 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: let's go Len, I got him him. I don't think. 547 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: I do not think that is a recipe for six 548 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: success success with this personnel, Like if yeah, drop in, 549 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: drop in z own absolutely, like keep him in front 550 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: of you. Let's let's have all the linebackers and as 551 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: many corners as possible facing the line of scrimmage so 552 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: you can tell when he starts to move. I like 553 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: that idea. I would try to drop in zone a 554 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: lot in this game. But I don't think they're somebody 555 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: on this team. I don't know. There's there's probably only 556 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: like three guys in the NFL that could adequately spy 557 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, you know, like Devin White and Tampa Bay 558 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: comes to mind. Maybe Bobby Wagner could still do it, 559 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: or like a Jamal Adams, But I don't I don't 560 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: like the idea of somebody on this defense trying to 561 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: do that. No. Yeah, if you're going to rely on 562 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: one guy, if you're relying on one guy to actually 563 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: take down Lamar Jackson, if he gets loose in the 564 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: open field, you're going to be in for a long day. 565 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: You have to rely on the fact that your defense 566 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: can rally to him. And that's about playing zone defense, 567 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: like you said, Dave, and everybody being able to see 568 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: what's happening, and if he starts to break the pocket 569 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: and starts running, everybody can kind of try to converge 570 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: and corral him because he's just too fast and too 571 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: elusive for them to do it any other way. And 572 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: that's what makes him so good. That's what makes running 573 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks so good, because when you start start thinking about 574 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: who could match up and like a spy, well, where 575 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 1: does the spy have to have to sit or stand 576 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: close to the line of scrimma? Okay, so then what 577 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: happens when they run the ball and I've got Jordan 578 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: Lewis gonna spy, but really number sixty three's coming off 579 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: the tackle and he wants to just get him out 580 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: of the way. That's a mismatch. So it's really hard 581 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: to find someone that that can run with him but 582 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: also can can play run defense that close to the 583 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. I mean, that's that's what makes these 584 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: guys so good, the running quarterback. Ye let's go ahead 585 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: and take our final break. When we come back, we're 586 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: gonna have some more questions. 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Welcome back around the final 628 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: segment of the Break live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios 629 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: at the Star we're taking fan questions. You can just 630 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: at Cowboys Break on Twitter, Amber, what do you have? 631 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: Should we hold out on all the criticism we have 632 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: been making this year and wait until we actually give 633 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: them a full season and see how that a full offseason? Sorry, 634 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: and then see how that season turns out. There won't 635 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: be any talk radio, there wouldn't be any shows, there 636 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be five shows on our stuff. I mean, they 637 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: just that's that's what happens. I mean, I mean, there's 638 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: that's why people talk about the draft so early and 639 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: all that stuff, because they're like, like this is okay, 640 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: well this we know what this is like, we got 641 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: to move on. So if you can't sit there and wait, 642 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: nobody waits anymore, well we should probably give them the 643 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: ben for the doubt. Yeah, well let's just come back 644 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: and say I'm sorry. Later, that's what they'll say, I'm sorry. 645 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: And McCarthy is actually a pretty good coach if that happens. 646 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: But I'm saying right now, it's just easy because because 647 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: think about it, we do this too. Every single play 648 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: we do like the overview, like you know what that 649 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: he's just not very good, even though like he gives 650 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: up gives up a sack, it's like he's not very good, 651 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, it's it's the classic. It's the 652 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: classic quarterback thing too, is like you have you, you 653 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: and I. But also like every fan listening, you've seen 654 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: every snap of Dak Prescott's career. You've probably seen thirty 655 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: five percent of every other quarterbacks snaps. Like, I mean, 656 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: you watch a lot of football, but you know you're 657 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: not watching Rogers if the Packers are playing at the 658 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: same time you're you haven't seen every snap of Pat 659 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: mahomes career. I Pat Mahomes makes three awful decisions a 660 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: game or you know three you know, but you don't 661 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: see that, and so you don't wait to weigh with it. 662 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: You don't weigh it the same way and that you 663 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: do it with your team too. So see the Super 664 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: Bowl win well and absolutely I'm not I'm not saying 665 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: Dak is as good as no, but you just you 666 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: weigh it differently when you're into the minutia of your 667 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: team verse just sort of seeing the overview of everybody else's. 668 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: But doesn't it see like with every snap, you're every 669 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: fan assists there like they're the judge. Like they've listened 670 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: to the jury, they've listened to the both sides of this, 671 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: and they finally they said, here's the decision on every play, 672 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: like this guy's really good or the he can't throw, 673 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's what we do. So that's 674 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: a nice question, but like, there's just too many people, 675 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: too many bloggers, too many people that just want to 676 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: have the answer and want to have an opinion about it. 677 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: So well the other thing too, I mean it's a 678 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: sliding scale, right, Like, do I think Mike McCarthy deserves 679 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: to get fired after one after this terrible season. No, 680 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: not with everything that's gone against him, Not with the circumstances. 681 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: Do I think he should be absolved of all blame. 682 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. And I'm gonna do what I just criticize 683 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: people for doing because I have not watched every snap 684 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: of the Carolina Panthers season, but I know that Matt 685 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: Rule is in the exact same circumstances with an untalented team. 686 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: I mean, before the season, the Panthers were viewed as 687 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: a contender for a top five pick, and I mean 688 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: they're taking people to the wire. They took the Saints 689 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: to the wire, they went toe to toe with the 690 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: Chiefs on the road at Kansas City. Therefore, you know 691 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: they've got a better record than the Cowboys right now, 692 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: and they've done a lot of it without Christian McCaffrey, 693 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: so they've had their own injury issues. So no, Mike 694 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: McCarthy does not get a complete pass for this season. 695 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: But I also you know I'm not trying to fire 696 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: him either. Sorry, what's up, Derek. I will say this, 697 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: Dave mentioning Carolina that a lot of people believe that 698 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: that Matt rule. Butcher that that game and time management 699 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: in that last game against Minnesota, and that was the 700 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: reason they lost. He didn't take enough time before they scored, 701 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: and it ended up giving the ball back to Minnesota 702 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: and they went down and scored and won the game. 703 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: So there's something like you said, if you're not watching 704 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: all the players, you don't miss, you miss some of 705 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: the nuance. But I will say this, I believe, I believe, 706 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: and I've come to this conclusion on this. I think 707 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: it's fair to criticize because I think there have been 708 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: some things that are worthy of criticism from Mike McCarthy 709 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: and from his coaching staff. I would caution anybody from 710 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: burying them. I wouldn't be making just grand statements about 711 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: whether he can coach or how good he is as 712 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: a coach, because at the end of the day, they 713 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: didn't and I know it's an excuse, but it's also 714 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: an explanation. They didn't have the ability to meet with 715 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: their team as much as they would normally do, to 716 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: be able to set up things, to be able to 717 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: get their team accustomed to the things they want to do, 718 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: and get them prepared for a season. So all those 719 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 1: things consider, I wouldn't bury him yet. I would just say, 720 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: you can criticize the things that he does that you 721 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: think aren't good, but I wouldn't bury him just yet. 722 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: I think this team will be much better when they 723 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: have a little more time. I think they'll be in 724 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: they get a lot of these players back that have 725 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: been injured, these frontline players that have been injured. I 726 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: think one of the thing, Sorry, Amber, go ahead, I 727 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: was just gonna say that. I think that one of 728 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: the things too, regardless of who the head coaches or 729 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: any of that, I feel that every season we start 730 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: off training camp thinking or seeing the potential that the 731 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: team can have and thinking that maybe maybe this might 732 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: be the year. And there's a lot of people who 733 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,959 Speaker 1: think that at the beginning of the season every year. 734 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: So when you start seeing it play out not the 735 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: way that you expected, there's more criticism there and you 736 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: just attack things differently because it's not the outcome that 737 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: you want to see happening. I would you gonna say 738 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: something today? Yeah, I was just I agree with everything 739 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: Derek said, And that's like, I'm not interested in burying anybody, 740 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: but specifically specifically on the defensive side of the ball. 741 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: I just don't think there's an excuse that holds water 742 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: for how bad they've been. And like the pandemic all 743 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, all of that, I get it, 744 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: you know all of that. It's it's out there and 745 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: it's fair. And that's I bring up Carolina as that's 746 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: my reference point to say, well, that is a brand 747 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: new coaching staff that has had all of the similar challenges. 748 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: And I haven't watched every snap of their season, but 749 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: but this is the worst defense in the league or 750 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: has been for long stretches of the season. I just 751 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: that stuff doesn't hold water for the amount of ineptitude 752 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: we've seen at times. In my opinion, you know how 753 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: many times we've heard Brian say, you know, brought us 754 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: would would say coaches have to know their team. You 755 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: have to know your team. And I think that's just 756 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: been a big challenge for all coaches and all news staffs, 757 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: but it seems like it's been a bigger one for 758 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: this staff. They just haven't really figured out. And how 759 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: can you know? You're like, what's your name is it? 760 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: Say Beyond or say okay, Google play corner, go out 761 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: there and play against the Steelers. Go I mean like that, 762 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: that's been a challenge for every team, But I'm just 763 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,280 Speaker 1: saying I don't think he really understands what he's got. 764 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: It's taken some time. And then they goes back to 765 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: what we said Yester here about the aggressive plays. Wow, 766 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: you know you don't have Aaron Rodgers cashing the checks 767 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: that you're you're trying to write. You don't have it anymore, 768 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: So you've got to figure that out. Yeah, I'll say this, 769 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: Dave on on what you just said. I think with 770 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: the one thing we've learned about that defensive staff and 771 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: their decision making, I guess it goes all the way 772 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: up to McCarthy. Is either one of tw things. Either 773 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: they don't like change, or they're very stubborn, because we've 774 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: seen them in situations where they've needed to make some 775 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: decisions and they've been so against making those decisions until 776 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: they're forced and their hand is forced to finally make 777 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: decision and you find out later that it was the 778 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: right decision, right. And so, either they don't like change 779 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: or they're very very stubborn. I don't think either one 780 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: of them is good for them. And that's what we've 781 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: seen this year, and I think that's part of the 782 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 1: reason why this defense was so bad for so long. 783 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: Here's another question that fits into this theme and this topic. 784 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: With all the questionable decisions that we've been talking about, 785 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: especially in this past game that we saw the Cowboys play, 786 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: how close do you think that McCarthy is to losing 787 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: his team amongst the players. I actually, and this is 788 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: totally this is like anecdotal. You would honestly be the 789 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: best person to answer this, because you travel with them, 790 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: you're a little bit closer. But I sort of feel 791 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: like I get impression that they're tighter than they were 792 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: a month and a half ago. Like I think that 793 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: that part of it doesn't worry me. As much. Maybe 794 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, Like I said, I don't get to 795 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: go into the locker room five days a week like 796 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: I used to, so maybe my read on it is 797 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: not as good. But like it, really it felt to 798 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: me like he was on the cusp of losing this 799 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: team during the like the first time they lost to Washington. Yeah, 800 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean, when DeMarcus Lawrence is saying that they're spineless 801 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: on the record to a reporter, that's not good. Um, 802 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't know. I don't get that 803 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: sense recently, even even though they you know, they just lost, 804 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, they lost a pretty embarrassing game to Washington 805 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: the other day. I still don't get that sense. We'll 806 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 1: see because right now, since the worst decision he's made 807 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,959 Speaker 1: this season, they're they're down twenty one, nothing like that. 808 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: That's what you know. We don't know. We don't know 809 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: anything other than like he made a really bad decision 810 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: and everyone knows it but them, and you know. But 811 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: then and then they came back and they gave up 812 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: three straight touchdowns, and so we haven't seen any kind 813 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: of response. We'll see if they come back and have 814 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: some life there. And and like Amber said about the watermelons. 815 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: I mean, what is it this this week? You know, what, 816 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: what is it before him? It's got to be something. 817 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: And I think that that that kind of helped, and 818 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: you know that they played better, and but they're going 819 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: to have to figure something out. I think it's a 820 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: very very good question because I don't I don't know. 821 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: I think I think it's been a roller coaster. It's 822 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: been up, it's been down. Right now it's down. Let's 823 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 1: see if they come back. You know, they had plenty 824 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: of time to rest here. Do you guys think that 825 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys give de Nucci or Gilbert any playing time 826 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: before the end of the season if it gets away 827 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: from him. Absolutely? Yeah, you know, I mean this this 828 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: reminds me, of course it does, because it was the 829 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: last time they were really bad. But twenty fifteen, like 830 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: they tried their best. You know, Romo came back and 831 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: everybody got excited for a week and that didn't work out. 832 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: They brought Castle back out there, but he was awful 833 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: in a game that kind of put him out of 834 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: the division race, and then Kellen Moore took over for 835 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: the last three weeks. I think I think this two 836 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: games swing against Baltimore and Cincinnati will decide what the 837 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: rest of the season, what the last two games look 838 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: like like. If you beat Baltimore, and I mean, you'd 839 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: like to think they can beat Cincinnati, especially without Joe Burrow. 840 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,439 Speaker 1: So if they beat Baltimore, they got a good shot 841 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 1: to beat Cincinnati. All of a sudden, they're what five 842 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: and eight and now no, and probably you're not going 843 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: to see those guys. But if they lose these next 844 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: two games, or if you know, if the division gets 845 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: away from them, I would expect you'll see a young 846 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: quarterback start at least the last game of the season. Yeah, 847 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: because they're gonna win four straight games, they're gonna go 848 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: seven and eight and then they'll have everything wrapped up 849 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: and then the last game against the Giants, they'll just 850 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: sit back there. Wow, that would be I know we 851 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: overuse this phrase, but that would be the most twenty 852 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: twenty thing ever, is if they sit Andy Dalton in 853 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: week seventeen because they've clinched the NFC, like, that would 854 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 1: just be that would be insane. I do want Andy Dalton. 855 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: I would like to see him play against Cincinnati. I think, 856 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I'm sure he would love that, But 857 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: but I think it's a good question. I mean, like, 858 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: if they don't win those two games, and he's got 859 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: to make those decisions. As Garrett Gilbert, part of the 860 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: future is a guy that you want to maybe use 861 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: as a backup quarterback, and if so, maybe he plays more. 862 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: But but I think that would have to be a 863 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: few weeks down the road. You know, guys, I kind 864 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: of disagree there. I actually think listening to what Jerry 865 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: has said over the last several weeks, I kind of 866 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: get the impression that they feel like they're they're not 867 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: necessarily looking at these young guys as being a backup 868 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: next year. I would actually be shocked if they don't 869 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: resign Andy Dalton to be their backup again next year, 870 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: because I think if the way Jerry will probably look 871 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 1: at this is, Hey, I think there are a lot 872 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: of things that contributed to us not being very good 873 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: this year, and part of that is Dak. But I 874 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: think he believes if he had his tackles right now, 875 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: and if his coach would have had an offseason, I 876 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: think he believes right now here they'd be contending. And 877 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that I disagree with that, and so 878 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: I think when it comes down to it. I think 879 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: they want to play Dalton as much as they can 880 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: down the stretch because number one, I do think they 881 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: still want to at least the coach does still want 882 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: to try to win, and he gives them the best 883 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 1: chance to win. But I also think that they want 884 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: to see what he can do because I think they 885 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: are still evaluating whether they want to keep him next year. 886 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: And I think I think I would be kind of 887 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: shocked if they don't try to keep him next year 888 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: and there's nothing he's doing right now. I think that's 889 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna make him just his high commodity where other teams 890 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: are going to be jumping in trying to sign him 891 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: to be their starter. I will. I mean, I agree 892 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: with that it's it's not all his fault, but Andy 893 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: Dalton hasn't looked good enough that you have to worry 894 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: about him signing some massive deal in the offseason. But 895 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, like, you gotta do what you 896 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 1: gotta do right now because the division is up for grabs, 897 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: But you want to send a thirty something year old 898 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: quarterback out there behind this offensive line in the game 899 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean anything in the standings and potentially get 900 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 1: him killed I mean, like, you you have to right 901 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: now because a playoff spot is still up for grabs, 902 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: but if it's not anymore, I if I was Andy Dalton, 903 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: I would be like, no, I'm not doing this anymore, 904 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: which he probably wouldn't say that because you know, you 905 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: don't think like yeah, you don't think like a football player, right. 906 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: These guys want to go out you only get as 907 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: Brian you just mentioned broad Us as he always says, 908 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: you only get sixteen of these, right, So these guys 909 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: want to be out there as much as possible because 910 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: it's just another opportunity to compete if if a playoff 911 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: spot is not and I like, you know, we're basically 912 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: talking week sixteen and seventeen, if a playoff spot is 913 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: not up for grabs for those two games, I wouldn't 914 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: send Andy Dalton's already been concussed playing behind this line, 915 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't do that to him, and maybe they will. 916 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. But look at the way he responded 917 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: to that day, the way he played against Washington. I mean, 918 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: this guy was like diving head first, like he was 919 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: not scared. You can tell how much he wants to play. 920 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: You gotta be wired, right, so you gotta be wired 921 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 1: the right way to play in the NFL. And I'm 922 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: not trying to like Andy Dalton's a competitors, I'm not 923 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: trying to knock him. But again, they were playing for 924 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 1: first place in the division on Thanksgiving like there were 925 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean there were, there were tangible things to be gained. 926 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: Week seventeen, somebody else has already clenched the division. I 927 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 1: just I don't know if it's the same story. We'll see, 928 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: all right, We appreciate you guys joining us. We will 929 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: be back. Remember we're not gonna have a show tomorrow. 930 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: We will be doing the Draft show tomorrow, so make 931 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: sure you tune in for that at eleven am. It's 932 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: gonna be an hour and a half show. Then on Monday, 933 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: we'll be back. 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