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Speaker 1: to be it. We need to be seeing Women's school

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Speaker 2: What shake and Hurdler's Emily Abadi. Here You are listening

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Speaker 2: to episode two hundred and eighty five of Hurdle, a

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Speaker 2: wellness focused podcast where I talk to inspirational people about

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Speaker 2: everything up from their highest highes and toughest moments to

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Speaker 2: essential tips on how to live a healthier, happier, more

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Speaker 2: motivated life. We all go through our fair share of hurdles.

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Speaker 2: My goal through these discussions is to empower you to

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Speaker 2: better navigate yours and move with intention so that you

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Speaker 2: can stride towards your own big potential and of course

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Speaker 2: have some fun along the way. We are in it.

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Speaker 2: We are in a new groove. The new year is

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Speaker 2: officially underway. I think we're about at that time where

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Speaker 2: bringing you for episode two hundred and eighty five today,

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Speaker 2: my conversation with the one and only Lucy Charles Barclay.

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Speaker 2: She's a red bull athlete as well as the iron

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Speaker 2: Man World Champion and course record holder. Let me tell

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Speaker 2: you I became really interested in triathlon, I would say

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Speaker 3: Yeah. That was about seven years.

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Speaker 2: Ago when I had that opportunity, and I have been

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Speaker 2: On this particular day, Lucy and I talk about the

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Speaker 2: the show notes. With that, let's get to it, let's

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Speaker 2: get it's a hurdling. Today, I am sitting down with

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing very well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I can still not quite get used to

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Speaker 1: And I guess the really good thing about triathlon is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much grace that has to come hand

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And I think that's something that is quite

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Now for those that do have a problem getting to

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Speaker 1: I think it's really important to Obviously, many times when

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Speaker 2: That's really great advice, and it's really applicable beyond sport. Clearly,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you referenced your in law's house

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Speaker 3: There's two things that I want to double click on.

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Speaker 2: The first thing is you were talking about just how

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Speaker 1: I think I learned that really early on into my

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Speaker 1: traffl On career that I guess, we're swimming more was

445
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Speaker 1: generally better because you could tolerate a lot as a

446
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Speaker 1: swimmer without getting injured. But there's still would be overtrained

447
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Speaker 1: in syndrome in swimming. But I think I kind of

448
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Speaker 1: applied how I trained for swimming to travel on to

449
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Speaker 1: begin with, and just would do more, more and more,

450
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Speaker 1: and then I would get injured. So it actually is

451
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Speaker 1: such a sweet spot with trafl and like doing the

452
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Speaker 1: right amount, but doing the right amount of recovery, and

453
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Speaker 1: actually recovery is like the fourth discipline of trafflon. You

454
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Speaker 1: really do have to focus on that and take the

455
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Speaker 1: time to refuel, go and see your physio, take the downtime,

456
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Speaker 1: do the phone roll in, do the stretching, like you

457
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Speaker 1: have to do everything right, do the mobility in the morning,

458
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Speaker 1: like it really is relentless, but you have to get

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Speaker 1: that balance right. But I think that's when it's so

460
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Speaker 1: important to have someone that's overseeing your program, or a

461
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Speaker 1: coach or an expert that's helping you, because it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot as a sport to really balance the

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Speaker 1: three disciplines and your recovery and your nutrition.

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Speaker 3: It is tough. It's funny that this is coming to

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Speaker 3: mind for me right now.

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Speaker 2: But today on the show, I released an episode about

467
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Speaker 2: things that I've learned in seven years of self employment.

468
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Speaker 2: I've been my own boss now for seven years, and

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Speaker 2: during that time, one of the lessons is that just

470
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Speaker 2: because you have the capacity to do something doesn't mean

471
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Speaker 2: that it needs to be done in this moment. And

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Speaker 2: so I would liken that to what you deal with

473
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Speaker 2: likely on the regular. There are so many different things

474
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Speaker 2: that you could be training. You could be in the

475
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Speaker 2: pain gave, you could be out for a brick, you

476
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Speaker 2: could be swimming, And sometimes the discipline to take that

477
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Speaker 2: time away is the thing that actually needs to be exercised.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: And actually becoming more in tune with your body and

480
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Speaker 1: listening to your body has become so important over the years,

481
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Speaker 1: and like you said, you could get so tempted into thinking, oh,

482
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Speaker 1: I need to go and do an extra run, or

483
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Speaker 1: I need to go and do this, and I think

484
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Speaker 1: because of social media, we get so guilty of that

485
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Speaker 1: because all you ever see is your competitors training will oh,

486
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Speaker 1: maybe I need to get an extra session in on them,

487
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Speaker 1: when actually, in reality, you'd probably just be better resting

488
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Speaker 1: and then you'll be better in the next session than

489
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Speaker 1: just being more tired. So I think it's about quality

490
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Speaker 1: over quantity, definitely.

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Speaker 2: And this circles back to our discussion on injury, right

492
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Speaker 2: because when you're not training how you'd like to be training,

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Speaker 2: I would imagine that, especially then it's like what modified

494
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Speaker 2: modality can I be doing right now? Because I'm not

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Speaker 2: doing things how I'm quote unquote supposed to be doing them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that can be really, really difficult. And that's

497
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Speaker 1: again when it becomes so important to have someone that's

498
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Speaker 1: setting you that plan and really sticking to it. I

499
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Speaker 1: think that's probably the most important time to stick to

500
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Speaker 1: the plan that's on paper, rather than trying to do

501
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Speaker 1: a little bit more because you feel like you're not

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Speaker 1: quite doing enough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You mentioned your husband rees also your training partner.

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Speaker 3: What's that like.

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Speaker 2: What's it like to be spending so much time with

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Speaker 2: your actual partner who is now your training partner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we have a really good balance. I mean,

508
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Speaker 1: there's definitely time. So it's tough because we're in a

509
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Speaker 1: high pressure sport and things can boil up, and with

510
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Speaker 1: injuries and the highs and lows, it's definitely difficult. But

511
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Speaker 1: we met as swimmers, so we were already in that

512
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Speaker 1: kind of environment, and I guess naturally RE navigated into

513
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Speaker 1: that kind of coaching roll very early on.

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Speaker 4: And I always listened to him and trusted his advice.

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Speaker 1: And I think for us as husband and wife, we

516
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Speaker 1: almost have to put our different caps on throughout the

517
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Speaker 1: day and be like, Okay, this is me talking to

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Speaker 1: you as athlete and coach, and then this is us

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Speaker 1: talking as husband and wife. So it can be hard,

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Speaker 1: but I think we've we've been together long enough to

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Speaker 1: know how to get through difficult situations.

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Speaker 2: How do you make the transition between those caps if

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Speaker 2: there's something going on in either camp, So maybe you're

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Speaker 2: having a disagreement about something that you would execute as

525
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Speaker 2: husband and wife. It could be as silly as like

526
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Speaker 2: going one place for the holidays, or there's something within

527
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Speaker 2: your training that you two disagree on. How do you

528
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Speaker 2: put those things aside when you're together? So frequently, I think.

529
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Speaker 1: We were very good at debating things. I think from

530
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Speaker 1: the outside it might look like we're having a feated argument.

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Speaker 1: We're just navigating that situation, And actually I wouldn't say

532
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Speaker 1: we've ever argued to the point where we haven't spoken

533
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Speaker 1: for more than a few hours. It's always been okay,

534
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Speaker 1: let's find let's move on from it. So I think

535
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Speaker 1: it's healthy to debate things, And definitely in sport, I

536
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Speaker 1: need to know why I'm doing something, so sometimes I

537
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Speaker 1: need that explain to me. But then other times I

538
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Speaker 1: don't need an extra explanation of why I'm doing it.

539
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Speaker 1: I just want to get on with it. So again,

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Speaker 1: I guess my husband has to read my mood very well.

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Speaker 1: He's very good at doing that, and he's very good

542
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Speaker 1: at also adapting my training. When he can see I'm

543
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Speaker 1: too tired or I'm going really well, he'll adapt it

544
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Speaker 1: on the go and then he'll then kind of communicate

545
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Speaker 1: that to my coach Dan, who's writing the actual plan.

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Speaker 1: So it's very much a team effort. And I guess

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Speaker 1: I trust Reese one hundred percent. He's completely in my corner,

548
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Speaker 1: so whatever he says usually goes unleess it's something to

549
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Speaker 1: do with housework, then we'll definitely argue about it.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate your sentiments around why I need to

551
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Speaker 2: know why I'm doing something. I think oftentimes when it

552
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: comes to movement, that is something that can be lost,

553
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Speaker 2: especially in the days of just following random workouts or

554
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Speaker 2: opening up a peloton up and being like today I'm

555
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Speaker 2: going to do my arms right.

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Speaker 3: Oftentimes we just don't have a why.

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Speaker 2: For someone that sees all that you're doing on social

558
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Speaker 2: as you gear up for your sport and says like

559
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Speaker 2: I want to train like you, what do you tell them?

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Speaker 1: I mean, often i'd say I wouldn't go straight in

561
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Speaker 1: with what I'm doing. Definitely think much. But it's always

562
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Speaker 1: nice to hear that people are inspired by what I'm doing.

563
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Speaker 1: But then I guess you have to really make that

564
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: relative to yourself and your own goals. Not many people

565
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Speaker 1: come into travel on and straight away want to do

566
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Speaker 1: an iman, And although it was the first travel when

567
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Speaker 1: I entered, I worked my way up from a sprint Olympic.

568
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Speaker 1: I actually skipped the half I man because I didn't

569
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Speaker 1: want to know how hard that was before doing the

570
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Speaker 1: four I man. But I think it's just about toning

571
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Speaker 1: it down to yourself and really working your way up gradually.

572
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Speaker 1: It's the best way of doing anything, so and have

573
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Speaker 1: fun with it. That was definitely why I came into triathlon.

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Speaker 1: Get your friends involved, make them all trained with you,

575
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Speaker 1: go more swimming for the first time with other people,

576
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Speaker 1: make it more enjoyable, kind of face your fears, but

577
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Speaker 1: in the most fun way possible.

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Speaker 2: we've talked about, it can be a considerable amount of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely really tough.

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Speaker 1: Like i spend a lot of time abroad training, so

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Speaker 1: I'm away from family, away from friends, and often feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm missing out on their lives, not being able

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Speaker 1: to be a part of it. And then I really

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Speaker 1: when I'm not training or when I'm not racing, like

624
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Speaker 1: during this time of the year where I'm having a

625
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Speaker 1: bit more downtime, I really make sure to try and

626
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Speaker 1: give back to them. I think when I'm training for

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Speaker 1: lo on, like sometimes I'll say to my mom and dad, Hey,

628
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Speaker 1: do you want to come on the bike next to

629
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Speaker 1: me whilst I'm running so we can spend some time together,

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Speaker 1: and they're really up for doing that, and they're so supportive,

631
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Speaker 1: so it's really really nice. But it definitely is tough

632
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Speaker 1: having to miss out on a lot of things. But

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Speaker 1: luckily we have an amazing supportive friendship group, we have

634
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Speaker 1: an amazing family that supports us. But it's still really

635
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Speaker 1: tough because you just feel guilty a lot of the

636
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Speaker 1: time that you're having to say no to things and

637
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Speaker 1: really miss out on things that are going on.

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Speaker 3: How does Lucy take care of Lucy? What do you

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Speaker 3: do to give back to yourself?

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Speaker 1: I mean, definitely, my best way of escaping from any

641
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Speaker 1: pressure situations or just when t OUTLM gets too much

642
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: is going walking with my two dogs. I think they're

643
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Speaker 1: definitely the best thing that I got to take my

644
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: mind off of Traflon.

645
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Speaker 4: And I'm really lucky.

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Speaker 1: I live near a huge forest, so I just go

647
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Speaker 1: and walk in there for as long as possible. Maybe

648
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Speaker 1: I'll whack on a podcast that has nothing to do

649
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Speaker 1: with Traflon so that I can listen to something different

650
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Speaker 1: and just take my mind away from the stresses of

651
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Speaker 1: travel on life. But I mean, there's worse things going

652
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Speaker 1: on in the world, So it's not often that I

653
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Speaker 1: get into that situation, but it's nice to have a

654
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Speaker 1: means of escape when I need it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially because your sport, you're working, you're enduring for

656
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Speaker 2: such a long period of time. Right to be doing

657
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: any activity for more than eight hours, you really have

658
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Speaker 2: to get in that right frame of mind. You said

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Speaker 2: walking through the forest. How else do you take care

660
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Speaker 2: of your mindset?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I often do a lot of positive self talk.

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Speaker 1: I think that's really important and you need to be

664
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: good at that when you're racing for over eight hours. Like,

665
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: there's definitely times in the race where your mind wandered

666
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: and you start to think negative. For so maybe you

667
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: think I can't do this or I can't sustain this,

668
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: And then actually I feel like I trained that at home.

669
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: I train that positive self talk to tell yourself you

670
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: can keep doing this. Think of the harder things you've

671
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: endured before this and managed to get through them. And

672
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: usually before a big race, I will write down maybe

673
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: my five hardest workouts or the best workouts that I

674
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: did where I felt like I couldn't do it in

675
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: the beginning, but I managed to tell myself I could

676
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: and then ended up having a really great workout. So

677
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: I kind of write those down before the race to

678
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: get myself into that positive headspace and remind myself of

679
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: just how much work I have done before I actually

680
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: line up on the race course.

681
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Speaker 2: I love that tip writing down moments that were difficult

682
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 2: but you succeeded despite that difficulty. Definitely something that can

683
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: be integrated into so many different routines, whether or not

684
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: we're talking about athleticism. So often we're like, oh, I

685
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: don't know if I can do this, and that's just,

686
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: you know, as we call the life coaching, the gremlin

687
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: popping in that self doubt that I'm not good enough,

688
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm not God knows what lovable, And then you can

689
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: write down instances of no, this is when I persevere,

690
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 2: this is when I was successful and knowing those things

691
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 2: being able to visualize them during that tough moment.

692
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: That's such a great tip.

693
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's one I've you used to unknowing to

694
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: begin with.

695
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Speaker 1: When I was a swimmer, I kind of did it

696
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: without thinking about it, and then traflon became a much

697
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: more challenging sport. I was racing for so much longer

698
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: that it became really important to have a strategy of

699
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: when my mind starts going into this negative place, how

700
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: can I come out of it? And it's something I've

701
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: worked on for I guess a number of years now

702
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: and have really found that writing the things down before

703
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: really does help me.

704
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: Aside from that right before practice, you said that you

705
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: do work on this positive self talk at home. What

706
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: else would you say you do to kind of get

707
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: yourself in a good frame of mine more regularly?

708
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Speaker 1: It always helps to have a good music, good playlist.

709
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: I do a lot of indoor training, so I'm literally

710
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: inside four walls doing my training. So you are inside

711
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: your own head for many many hours of training, and

712
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: I think mentally that makes you quite tough. But there's

713
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: definitely times where you just need something else. So I'll

714
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: put on a good playlist, some upbeat music, some positive music,

715
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: just to really get me kind of just up for it.

716
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: I guess that you can't be up for every single day,

717
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: Like there's not every single day that I jump out

718
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: of bed and think, whoah, I get to go and train,

719
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: Like there's definitely days where you're so tired and you

720
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: just need something else.

721
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 4: So having a really good playlist I find just really

722
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: does help me.

723
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier the concept of knowing your why when

724
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: I asked you what you say to individuals who want

725
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: to train like you on those hard mornings. I would

726
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: imagine that you personally knowing your why is really realle

727
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: to how you show up when you just don't want

728
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: to do it. So Lucy, tell us a little bit

729
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 2: about what your why is within your sport.

730
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: It's definitely always been about how far I can get

731
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: within whatever sport I'm doing. So in swimming, I wanted

732
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: to see how far I could get, how fast I

733
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: could go. The same applies to trifle, and I want

734
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: to see how far I can go in this sport.

735
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: And for a long time, it was about winning the

736
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: IMAN World Championships. And I've had a lot of people

737
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: ask me, now, well, what is your why now when

738
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: you've been working towards that month for so long, Like,

739
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: do you feel like you're done now?

740
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 4: Is there nothing left?

741
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: And I definitely feel like that's when it becomes so

742
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: crucial to have new goals that excite you. So I've

743
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: already been planning for next year's season with some exciting goals,

744
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: and I still feel deep down I have the potential

745
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: to go faster over the iman distance, so I think

746
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: that keeps me coming back. So it's about either revisiting

747
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: old goals that you haven't been able to achieve yet

748
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: or setting new ones you do achieve the goals that

749
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: you've been working tours for so long.

750
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: I love the idea of moving the goal posts.

751
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 2: This goes back to our conversation on making sure that

752
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: you have grace with yourself when the unexpected pops in.

753
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: You've had to move your goal posts a few times

754
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: because of what we talked about at the top of

755
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: this episode, those second place finishes when you say that

756
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: you have different goals for the new year, aside from

757
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: speeding up, what are we talking about here?

758
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: Yes, So we have a new race series in Traftlon

759
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: called the PTO, which is the Professional Trafleit Organization, and

760
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: their race distance is quite a bit shorter than an

761
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: I man. It's actually the one hundred k distance, so

762
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: the race itself last for less than four hours. It's

763
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: usually around three and a half hours for the women.

764
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: So it's different to what I've done before that, it

765
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: definitely excites me. It also is hoping to be a

766
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: race series worldwide, so again it means I can go

767
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: race around the world, which I love to do, and

768
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: it's just different, so it excites me. And then alongside that,

769
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like I could go faster over that

770
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: i'mn distance, so that's going to keep me showing up

771
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: for that distance as well.

772
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: Something I loved about this year's Championships was the woman

773
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: only race experience.

774
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: Share with me what your experience was like with that.

775
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think initially going into the race, I wasn't

776
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: sure how well received it would be, how much media

777
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: coverage we would get. From very early on from being

778
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: on the island, I realized the amount of attention we

779
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: were getting as female athletes, and then you felt this

780
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: kind of It wasn't a pressure, It was like an

781
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: excitement to show the world how strong female athletes can be.

782
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: So to have just women there telling our story was amazing.

783
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: And actually looking at the stats after the race, we

784
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: had more views on the women's race than the men's

785
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: i'm Man World Championship this year, So I think that

786
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: just shows how strong women are and how much interest

787
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: there actually is in women's sports, So that was really cool.

788
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is a theme that we're seeing

789
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: now and understanding that there is a desire, a thirst

790
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: for consuming women's sports. We're seeing media companies completely dedicated

791
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: to women's sport, and now more and more regularly general

792
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: media companies, especially TV companies, are opening up slots to

793
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: showcase women's sport. It's so long overdue understatement, and I

794
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: love that we can say things like you just said,

795
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: like the viewership up was up over the men's race.

796
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: Dramatically they say a lot, but you have to see

797
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: it to be it.

798
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: We need to be seeing women's sport to inspire the

799
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: younger girls and women to actually take up sport and

800
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: give it a go. So it's amazing that we're finally

801
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: getting that platform to really share just how strong we are.

802
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: I think also it comes in to play with the

803
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: prize money, right, both the men and the women winners

804
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: of Iron MANCONA.

805
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: When what's the personnel, I think it's about one hundred

806
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: and twenty five thousands, so it's pretty good. And it's

807
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: always been amazing in triathlon that the money has always

808
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: been equal across men and women. I think the only

809
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: thing that had lacked before was that coverage of men

810
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: and women, But now again that's becoming very equal as well.

811
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really great, especially because we talked about other

812
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: sports and that's just so not the case. I did

813
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: an article not all that long ago on a women's

814
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: cycling team out of California and just how difficult it

815
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: is for them to perform because not only is their

816
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: very little coverage of women's professional cycling, but then also

817
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: the money that's invested and the prize purses often are

818
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: there's such a large discrepancy there between the women and

819
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: the men.

820
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you see that across a lot of sports,

821
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: which is why I feel so lucky to be in

822
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: the sport of travelm that there's so many sports that

823
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: could just take a leaf out of Trafilm's book and

824
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: really support the women and give them the platform they deserve,

825
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: give them the funding and the backing financially to actually see.

826
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 4: How they can do.

827
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: Because a lot of the time, I guess I'm quite biased,

828
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: but I do think the women's racing can be more

829
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: exciting than the men's and we just need the platform

830
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: to show the world, and once they see it, they

831
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: want to see more of it. So, yeah, we just

832
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: have to keep pushing as female athletes to really get

833
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: that platform we deserve.

834
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 3: Like you said, in order to be it, you need

835
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: to see it.

836
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 2: We mentioned the prize person money from Kona being something

837
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: like one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. Also enabling

838
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: you to do what you love is the support from

839
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: your sponsors. Talk to me about what it was like

840
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: when you first started securing these deals, knowing that they

841
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: were going to truly fuel you to put in the

842
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: work that you wanted to do.

843
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess like initially, I think I went on

844
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: to come second in ConA the fat time, and that

845
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: was the first time I really started to get interest

846
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: from sponsors. So it still took a long while, and

847
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: I still had to really financially invest myself and get

848
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: my family to support me initially, but we all believed

849
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: in the kind of success I could potentially have. So

850
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: once I started to secure actual sponsors that were backing

851
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: me and supporting me, and I think, like one of

852
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: my earlier sponsors was Red Bull, and to have them

853
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: on board with me was just absolutely amazing. Like there's

854
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: such an incredible brand, but one of the big things

855
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: they said to me initially was obviously financially they can

856
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: support me, but they would be there all the way

857
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: if I ever got injured, and they have done that

858
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: a million percent for me, Like whenever I've had an injury,

859
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: I've called them up, I've been in for a scan.

860
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: The next day, I've been flying out to Austria to

861
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: their performance center and seeing the top experts to help

862
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: me come back from the injury stronger than I was before.

863
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: But I feel like so many of my sponsors are

864
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: more than just a financial help. They just give me

865
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: so much support. My bike sponsor, for example, we develop

866
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: the technology of the bike year on year together, and

867
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: it just feels like a huge partnership more than just

868
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: having a sponsor that's putting pressure on me to perform

869
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: at the highest level. It just feels like they want

870
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: to support me, they want to help me, They want

871
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: to see how far I can go in this sport

872
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: more than anything. So I feel really really grateful to

873
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: have those brands behind me and support me all the way.

874
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.

875
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: It is bigger than your accomplishments. For someone who hears

876
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: that you have these different sponsors, can you paint a

877
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: picture of what some of the obligations might look like

878
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: within these partnerships.

879
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

880
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: I mean most of the obligations that I have are

881
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Speaker 1: media related, so I'm really fortunate to have my sister

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00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: who does an amazing job on my social media, on

883
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: our YouTube, she allows us to really tell that story,

884
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: and I think that covers a large proportion of my

885
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: contracts with these sponsors and a lot of the stuff

886
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: that's additional to that.

887
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: I just really enjoyed doing.

888
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: For example, going and doing a meet and greet with

889
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: maybe it's the UK office at Red Bull, or a

890
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: meet and greet with the staff that work at my

891
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: bike sponsor Cube. Just doing that a little bit, but

892
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: I really enjoy that because it feels like I'm giving

893
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: back a little bit as well to the support that

894
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Speaker 1: they're giving me. So I try to do it as

895
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Speaker 1: best as possible. I mean, obviously, when I'm training super hard,

896
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: it's not so easy, but that's when it's great to

897
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: have my sister there just filming what I'm doing anyway

898
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: and sharing that story a little bit.

899
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Speaker 2: I love it's not only you are training with your husband,

900
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: but then you're also working with your sister. It's kind

901
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: of a fun opportunity to give back to the people

902
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: you love so that you can all do this together.

903
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it always has felt a bit like a

904
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 4: family effort. Like my mum and dad.

905
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: They came onto my training camp this year when we

906
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: went to font Romot in France in altitude. They came

907
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: there so that we could have their dogs there. They

908
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: looked after the dogs. They also fed us so they

909
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: would cook the meals for us between our training. So yeah,

910
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Speaker 1: it feels amazing to have such a supportive family and

911
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: friends and my sponsors. I do feel really really grateful

912
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: for everyone helping me on this journey.

913
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Speaker 3: Nothing like a good home cooked meal now, I know.

914
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: We talked about the fact that this goes on for

915
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: a long time when you're actually in a race, and

916
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 2: also all those hours that go into the training.

917
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: How do you show up on the ds that you

918
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: don't want to show up?

919
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it is tough. I think that's where it

920
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: really helps to have my husband there who just reminds

921
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: me of why I'm doing it. But it's also just

922
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: remembering the journey that you've been on and how far

923
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: you have come and why you're doing it. That's when

924
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: it's really important to remember that why, like what am

925
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: I working towards? And I think it helps sometimes. I

926
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: remember being out running before and I didn't want to

927
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: be running. I was super tired, and I just I

928
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: think I saw this young girl that pointed to a

929
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: parents was oh my god.

930
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 4: That's Charles running, and I was like, actually, this is

931
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: why I'm doing it.

932
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Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm just out here selfishly out

933
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: for a run, but I can also be inspiring the

934
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Speaker 1: next generation of athletes to give it a go. So

935
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Speaker 1: I think it's about trying to make it bigger than yourself,

936
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: just giving back in any way you can.

937
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: I love that someone goes to your Instagram page they

938
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: see you there, a red bull athlete and iron Man

939
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Speaker 2: world champion. You've got something almost like five hundred thousand followers.

940
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Speaker 2: But when you look in the mirror in the morning, Lucy,

941
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: what is it that you see looking back at you?

942
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: I think I just see the same person. I've always

943
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: seen someone that's super driven towards her goals, but I've

944
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: always just stayed the same person despite the success I've had.

945
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: I think I'm very lucky. I have some friends who

946
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: keep me grounded. We'll joke with me and I don't

947
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: take life too serious. I do try and have as

948
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: much fun with it as possible. But at the same time,

949
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: I think I definitely put a different holm when I

950
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: get on the start line, and I am a pure

951
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: racer when I get on the race course. But other

952
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: than that, I would say I'm quite a friendly, nice person.

953
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Speaker 3: When you show up to the start line.

954
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Speaker 2: Understandably, so there's going to be a little bit of

955
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: that anxiety, the nerves that kick in. Advice for handling

956
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: nerves the day of any big effort or a big moment.

957
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely tough, but I remember it felt like

958
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: my heart was in my.

959
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 4: Throat on the morning of KNA this year, because you

960
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: know all the.

961
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Speaker 1: Work that went into it, and you can tell yourself

962
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: every minute it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, but you

963
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: know how much and how hard you work for it,

964
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: and of course it matters. So it is really just

965
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: trying to send to yourself. I always just try and

966
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: focus on deep breaths, step by step, like, don't try

967
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: and think about the whole day, really break it down.

968
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: So the first bit, I literally am just thinking about

969
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: the start of the swim to begin with, and nothing

970
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: more than that.

971
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Speaker 4: I think usually days.

972
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Speaker 1: And weeks before the race, I've done the visualization, I've

973
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: really thought about it, but on race morning, I think

974
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: it becomes way too overwhelming if you think about the

975
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: whole thing. So yeah, just trying to break it down

976
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Speaker 1: as much as possible.

977
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Speaker 2: Another takeaway that's just so relevant for so many other

978
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: things in life. Right if we're sitting there and worrying

979
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: about the thing that's happening in five hours from now

980
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: and not focusing on what's happening in this minute, then

981
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: you're also losing an opportunity to be present and present

982
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: with where you are and navigating where you're at.

983
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: Definitely, I think, yeah, like you said, in any walk

984
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: of life, it's just staying in the moment and focusing

985
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: on the task at hand, not the one that's next

986
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: or the other one. And I think I have to

987
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: do that with my training a lot. Actually, is just

988
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: focus on the session that I'm doing now rather than

989
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: worrying about the one that's coming up in the evening,

990
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: because you ruin the session that you're doing initially if

991
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: you're worrying about the next one. So take it one

992
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: step at a time.

993
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: What excite to you right now, Lucy back.

994
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: Into training now, so just sort of ticking along, think crazy.

995
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: But I always look forward to the new year as

996
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: well because it's like a fresh start, and I look

997
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: forward to really getting into some structured training.

998
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 4: In the new year.

999
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 1: I'll head out to some warmer climates in lands Rotti.

1000
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: The weather's never great here in winter in the UK,

1001
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: so looking forward to some sunshine in the new year.

1002
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just really happy with life at the

1003
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: moment and trying and enjoy it as much as possible.

1004
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: What's something that you're looking forward to making stick in

1005
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: the new year, Maybe a habit or whatnot that you say, Okay,

1006
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: fresh start January one, this is when this is going

1007
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: to happen for me.

1008
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: I think one of the things I really want to

1009
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: focus on is just trying to not stress as much.

1010
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: I think stress like when I worry about a session

1011
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: too much, it actually gets ruined just by being stressed.

1012
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: So that's easier said than done to say just don't

1013
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: be stressed. But I think it goes back to what

1014
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: we were saying earlier, just staying in the moment, focusing

1015
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: on one thing at a time, and I think that

1016
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: that will hopefully help me to be a bit more relaxed,

1017
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: especially when training ramps up and gets harder.

1018
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: And harder, less stress in twenty twenty four, that's all

1019
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'm with you.

1020
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: Well, we're winding down here the way that I end

1021
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: all of my episodes. Right now, you have an opportunity, Lucy,

1022
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: knowing what you know now, to offer yourself a piece

1023
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 2: of advice. Let's go back to that injury hurdle moment,

1024
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: dealing with being in that moon boot, having all of

1025
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: that frustration right now, offer yourself a piece of advice

1026
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: during that time.

1027
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: Knowing what you know now, I would definitely say trust

1028
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: in the process. I think this year I really struggled

1029
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: with that. I felt like I was performing really well

1030
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: in training quite a lot, but then on the race

1031
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: day it didn't feel like it came together. And for me,

1032
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: when I did the really hard block of work to

1033
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: Kona this year, in that five six weeks, a large

1034
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: part of me for like, is this even going to work?

1035
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Because it felt like it hadn't worked all year, And

1036
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: then obviously it finally did work and it all came together,

1037
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: and it was about just trusting in the process and

1038
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: knowing that actually, when you need to be there, when

1039
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: your body's ready, it will be ready and it will deliver.

1040
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, just trust in the process and you'll get there.

1041
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you before you

1042
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: go to tell me where your mind was at when

1043
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: you finally, after all of those years, crossed that finish

1044
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 2: line in first place, put us in your shoes.

1045
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: I think it was every emotion I've ever felt in

1046
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: my body came out like I didn't know whether to

1047
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: cry or laugh or I just I'd expelled every single

1048
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: ounce of energy in my body on that day. And

1049
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: to cross that finish line and have my husband there,

1050
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: my sister there was just amazing. I remember running up

1051
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: the finish line and I couldn't even hear anything.

1052
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 3: It was so loud.

1053
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: My ears were ringing, and it almost didn't feel real.

1054
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: And for a long time after the race, it didn't

1055
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: feel feel real. I kept watching the video of me

1056
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: crossing the finish line, taking that finish tape and being like,

1057
00:51:58,960 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: that's actually me.

1058
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 4: The video like it wasn't computing.

1059
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, it's been such a long, long

1060
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: journey to get to that point. It was a huge

1061
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: relief to finally do it. But obviously I was just

1062
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: so so happy, and I think everyone on my team

1063
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: was relieved and happy as well.

1064
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: Relieved and happy and astounded with a new course record

1065
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 2: of eight hours, twenty four minutes and thirty one seconds.

1066
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: Let me just say, for those of you that don't know,

1067
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: she also ran this marathon after the swim and the

1068
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 2: bike in a sub three hour time, which is insane.

1069
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 3: It's insane.

1070
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: You're truly truly a legend, Lucy. I'm so happy that

1071
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: we're able to find the time to finally connect for

1072
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: the show. For those of you that don't follow along

1073
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: with you just yet, give us the details. How do

1074
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: they keep up with you on social Yeah?

1075
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: I mean I'm very active on my social media, which

1076
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: I think is at Lucy Chiles ninety three. But the

1077
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: biggest thing we're pushing at the moment is the YouTube channel,

1078
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: which is Team Child's park Play, and my sister puts

1079
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: in so much time an effort into it, and I

1080
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: think we're about three thousand followers away from that magic

1081
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: hundred k where she gets sent a little award or something,

1082
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: so I can go and follow that or mean everything

1083
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: to me for the work that my sister Holly puts in.

1084
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 3: Get Holly the award, y'all. She needs it.

1085
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily Obadi and at Hurdle Podcast. Another

1086
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.