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Today, I wanted to 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: discuss Tua, who I put on ir Fields, who Tomin 38 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: says is gonna be the starting quarterback, the rookie quarterbacks, 39 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: Flores who's dominating in Minnesota, But will that lead to 40 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: a head coaching job. And then like we will do 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: every Wednesday, cough on campus as well as a mail 42 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: bag at John Middlecoff Instagram. Fire in those dms we 43 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: put out on the YouTube channel. Today played eighteen holes. 44 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: That's up there on the YouTube channel. I'm shooting another 45 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: video break eighty if you're listening this on Wednesday today, 46 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna start working on playing with some athletes, 47 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: coaches or people in general. We'll see what happens. So 48 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna get that off and running now, so you 49 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: can go check that out on the YouTube channel. Subscribe 50 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: to the channel obviously if you listen on Collins Feed 51 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: three and out, subscribe to the separate feed. Appreciate everyone 52 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: that has. We've got a football game Thursday night, Jets Pats, 53 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: so we'll talk a little bit about that Thursday, and 54 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: as well as the Jay Gruden talking quarterbacks and offenses 55 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: and just the Grudens their beauties. So other than that, 56 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: a lot going on, not really, so let's just keep 57 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: on swinging. But I was thinking about because on just 58 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: college football in general, you know, on Instagram, I often 59 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: get these incredible reels from you know, these stadiums in 60 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: college and One of the coolest ones is when they 61 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: play Dixie Land Delight at Alabama and the student section, 62 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: which now feels like the entire stadium, adds their little 63 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: song in between the lines, and it's just awesome, especially 64 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: at night with all the phones out. And if you 65 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: want to go to one of these big time college games, 66 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: we'll get into conference play, so the matchups are going 67 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: to be incredible. Obviously, the NFL feel for all my 68 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Eagles fans that were at the Link, and I've made 69 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: that walk out of that stadium after some bad ls. 70 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: It's tough, but going to games is really fun and 71 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: there's nothing like leaving a stadium watching your team get 72 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: a win, especially at home with all your people. It's 73 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: a great communal experience. 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He got put on short term IR, 83 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: which is something that has been developed over the last 84 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: six seven years, changed a lot historically back in the day. Hell, 85 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: even when I was in the league. You want an IR, 86 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: you were gone. This is a I love this edition 87 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: of the ability to put guys on short term IR, 88 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: just in general, and I think the two of things 89 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: fascinating because we all universally agree watching him lay on 90 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: the ground as a human being is very, very difficult, 91 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: and the fencing with his arms that has now happened 92 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: several times, it is a gut check moment. You feel 93 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: for the human being. You feel like it's really really 94 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: hard to watch. And my initial take when it happened 95 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: was I wasn't going to grandstand. And it's the most 96 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: predictable thing ever when that happened that everybody universally said 97 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: to retire. And I don't think they're really making it up, 98 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: but it was very predictable. And it's pretty clear that 99 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL, most guys are twenty 100 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: six years old, don't quit easy and all reports. Now, 101 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll see him talk, because when 102 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: you're on IR you are not obligated to talk like 103 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: you are as a starting quarterback. The head coach will 104 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: and other players will, but we'll see, if you know. 105 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: Tua gets behind a mic over the next couple of 106 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: weeks and says how he truly feels, but all reports 107 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: as he does not plan him to retire, which is 108 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: the least shocking thing to me though, like if he retired, 109 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame the guy if you ask me, like 110 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: what should you do? And I look today, he's made 111 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: seventy three million dollars. That counts his rookie contract, which 112 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: was all guaranteed as the number five pick, and then 113 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: the signing bonus that he made from this new deal, 114 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: which is paid over a period of time. But he's 115 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: already received over forty million dollars. So as of today, 116 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: he's made seventy three million dollars. And I think the 117 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: media does a really poor job of this when they 118 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: talk generational wealth, like where I come from many three 119 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: million dollars, especially when you factor in Florida and no 120 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: state income tax. That is generational wealth. And tuaus with 121 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: a top agency, he's with high level financial guys. I'm 122 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: sure they have him well invested. That is setting up 123 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: family members, your wife, your kids for life. So he's 124 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: made generational wealth. But give or take, if he were 125 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: to retire, the guarantees on the contract could become problematic 126 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: for him to receive. And historically teams you know, have 127 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: battled that when it comes to retirements, guys have had 128 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: to pay money back and not receive money coming. And 129 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: for the money that he has still owed just on 130 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: the guaranteed. My math could be off a little bit, 131 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: but it's like one hundred and twenty one hundred and 132 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars. So it's very very easy for 133 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: everyone to say quit, don't do this, and I don't 134 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: blame people for saying that, but I don't know if 135 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: that's realistic. And the moment that happened, I didn't think 136 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: the next day he's like, I'm done, even though you 137 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: know you saw Antonio Pierce, which I thought was very 138 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: genuine former player at a really high level, said if 139 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: I was talking to him, I would recommend stop playing. 140 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: But I also think perspective in the way you look 141 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: at life, like I'm thirty nine years old, I look 142 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: at life I'm a completely different human than I was 143 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: at twenty six years old. Sometimes I think back when 144 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: I see memories come up on social media to high 145 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: school or college, Like, I don't even know if I 146 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: would be able to relate to the person I was 147 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: at that age, let alone twenty six. Honestly, thirty years old. Hell, 148 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm dramatically different I feel than when I was thirty 149 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: five years old. And I'm not talking morals. I'm not 150 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: talking you know, your core values as a human being. 151 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the way you look at life. 152 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: As you age, you should change. So it's very easy 153 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: for older people to have an opinion that they have 154 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: on this situation. It's twenty six years old. The other 155 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: thing is like seventy three million dollars, Like I said, 156 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: game changing money. Think about successful people. You know, if 157 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: you've ever been around these type people that started the 158 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: company and maybe sold one. I've known a couple of people, 159 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: family friends growing up that sold it for like twenty 160 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. It's like they hit the fucking jackpot. 161 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: They made their kids partners, everyone got rich. So we're 162 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: talking ten twenty million dollars. That's in California, So You're 163 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: talking in the state of Florida with how much money 164 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: he's made, like it's a lot, but there's still a 165 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: lot coming. And I'm not saying the only reason he 166 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: would come back is simply for the money, but that 167 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: has to factor in, Like, this is America, and the 168 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: reason these guys play football is because it's a business 169 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of money to be made, and 170 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: it complicates the situation. Now my TA. Last week when 171 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: it happened, I thought, like, the Dolphins can do whatever 172 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: they want, Tua can do whatever they want, but there's 173 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: no way on God's green Earth that come Thursday or Wednesday, 174 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: they can just beck oh, he's cleared from protocol. The 175 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: league was gonna get involved, and I'm not saying that 176 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: they did. Maybe it was just an easy one. The 177 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: neurologist said like, hey, we just need a couple of 178 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: weeks before we can even assess this. But this was 179 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: an easy move for everyone involved. Put him on injury reserve, 180 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: take a deep breath. But what happens after four weeks? 181 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: What happens if the neurologist I saw a video go 182 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: viral of Steve Young talking to Dan Patrick, and he said, 183 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard for me to relate to some 184 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: people with concussions because mine it wasn't like a week later, 185 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't remember my wife's name, or what street I 186 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: lived on, or what plays we called. I would get 187 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: a concussion, and really by the by lunchtime the next day, 188 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: I felt completely fine and it didn't impact my memory. 189 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: So he's like, I can't relate when some of these 190 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: people and even some of these former players come up 191 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: to me and ask these questions like that didn't happen 192 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: to me. So and he's like, the reality with these neurologists, 193 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,599 Speaker 1: and this is the way with most doctors in situations 194 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: where there's not like a concrete answer, it's like, well, 195 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: I would recommend I think this is the best course 196 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: of action. But it's not like, hey, my dad had 197 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: pancreatic cancer. If you don't attempt to get some treatment 198 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: on this immediately, you're going to die. It's black and white. 199 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: It ain't going away. As Steve Young said, the brain 200 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: is like really the last frontier of medicine that there 201 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: are still a ton of questions on and I would 202 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: just expect to not simply for the money, but that 203 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: has to play a big factor, he's twenty six years 204 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: old to not retire or not want to retire. And 205 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: I think this is where the league and the Dolphins, 206 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: they're all going to be put in precarious situations because 207 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: the contract. It feels dirty talking about Mike Florio wrote 208 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: about it, and he's like, simply because the contract's so big, 209 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: this is gonna have to be a discussion because if 210 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: he is cleared then and he wants to play, like 211 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: he's do that cash. So if they're not allowing him 212 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: to play, how that works, like they gotta pay him. 213 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: And if they just say, Okay, he wants to play, 214 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: he's technically cleared, and throw him out and this happens again, 215 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be an awful look because we all see 216 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: it coming. It feels inevitable for it to happen again because, 217 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: let's face it, that hit, I don't want to say 218 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: it was like innocuous, like barely happened, but it was 219 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: how often do you see that level tackle against running 220 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: backs and wide receivers throughout a Sunday every other play. 221 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't some huge ray Lewis Dick, butkiss decletion Jalen 222 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: Hirts was taking bigger collisions last night. And I don't 223 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: pretend to be some medical expert here, but it's pretty 224 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: clear the first concussion you have, the more susceptible you 225 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: are to the next one and the next one, and 226 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: it grows and grows. Now, I think there's a numbness 227 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: with us the football that this is gonna sound. I 228 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: don't know, insensitive, I don't. I don't know if the 229 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: casual fan cares that much, like they don't want to 230 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: see anyone playing there like that, But like, it's not 231 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: gonna affect the way we watch football. It's not going 232 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: to affect the way we discuss football. The Chiefs Bengal 233 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: game Sunday afternoon. Now, they the way that they count 234 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: the amount of people that watch has changed over time 235 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: because they count bars and restaurants now to twenty eight 236 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: million people watching. So it's gonna be fascinating to watch 237 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: this play out. And I would expect the league to 238 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: be very, very active. But owners didn't get rich randomly. 239 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: You know, this is gonna be a situation like, well, 240 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna pay them one hundred and twenty more 241 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: million dollars and he's clear to play, I would imagine 242 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: the Dolphins like let him play. They did it before, 243 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: why wouldn't they do it again? Justin Fields at two 244 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: and oh and he's played pretty well. I think he's 245 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: looked better than he did in Chicago. He made a 246 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: couple of really good throws last week that were called back. 247 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: One throw to Pickens might be one of the best 248 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: throws he's ever made. It as a pro was called 249 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: back on a holding play. It was great, rolled right, 250 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: hit him in stride. Pickens did a sweet little dance. 251 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: Then he looked realized there's a flag. I think he's 252 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: got a little wiggle room now. Like coming into this season, 253 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: I thought no one was on a scholarship. Russell was 254 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: not gonna get a long leash. Fields would not have 255 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: a long leash if he came in after like he 256 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: can mix a match. They're paying both guys a total 257 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: of like two and a half million dollars, paying him nothing. 258 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they're actually paying Fields a little more because they 259 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: traded for the contract. But relative to other quarterbacks, their 260 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: quarterback room with these two guys is nothing because Denver's 261 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: paying the freight on Russell Wilson. Once you start two 262 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: and oh, though, and you have been managed the game 263 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: pretty well, he's getting more than one bad game before 264 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: they're going to Russell Wilson. Now, is he getting three? 265 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Probably not. But they get the Chargers this week at home. 266 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a pretty good matchup that's got fifteen 267 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: thirteen written all over it. Let's just say they win 268 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: that game and he plays exactly like he has the 269 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: first couple weeks, defense dominates, They get some field goals, 270 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: maybe they score one touchdown. He just plays under control, 271 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: doesn't throw for more than one hundred and fifty yards, 272 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: but doesn't turn the ball over, makes a couple plays 273 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: with his legs. You start three and zero, like I think, 274 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: his leash only grows again. You build momentum with the 275 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: guys you're playing with. You bring an athletic ability that 276 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: at this point in time, Russell just does not. You 277 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: have no problem throwing the ball down the field. The 278 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: knock on Justin Well, he doesn't really work the middle 279 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: of the field. Well neither does Russell Wilson. So I 280 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: would say justin fields unless the wheels just fall off 281 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: over like a three weeks span, is going to be 282 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers quarterback for the foreseeable future. And they get 283 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: Chargers at home, this week, which is just gonna be 284 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: an old school slugged out game. Then they go to Indy, 285 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: Then they play the Cowboys on Sunday Night. Now, games 286 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: on primetime television just have more eyeballs on them because 287 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: there's no distractions. Right, you play Thursday night, Sunday night, 288 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: or Monday night, you're not competing against the rest of 289 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: the slate. So that game, especially against the Cowboys, going 290 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: to be under a microscope. But let's just say they 291 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: go one to one over these next two games, there'll 292 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: be three to one going into that game. I do 293 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: think there's a probably a coin flip chance that if 294 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: they beat the Chargers at home at Indy, is not 295 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: a good matchup for Anthony Richardson against that defense. Do 296 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: not like that one at all? What is there four 297 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: and oh going into that game? Even if he plays 298 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: like shit and they lose, OK, four to one, you 299 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: have a three game cushion on even being five hundred 300 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about. The Steelers is a couple of wins 301 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: away from being like a borderline lock playoff team. So Fields, 302 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's made the most of 303 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: his opportunity because he hasn't done that. Much, but he's 304 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: done everything he's needed to do, and the more confidence 305 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: he gets with the head man, Russell Wilson's going to 306 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: be a forty million dollar on the Denver Broncos accounting sheet. 307 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: Backup saw a stat today that none of the rookie 308 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have thrown a touchdown. We've only played two games, 309 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: but clearly it hasn't gone well. Bo Nicks has been abysmal, 310 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams has really struggled for the hype, and Jade 311 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: Daniels kind of right now is just a runner, which 312 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: he's good at, but he's got to learn the slider. 313 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna get killed. But the hype on these guys 314 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: for what we've seen, let's let's face it has been 315 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: a little underwhelming. But all these teams were in tough 316 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: spots right Washington, their roster sucked. They had the number 317 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: two overall pick, Like, it's not like you get three 318 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: first rounders. It is what it is. You take quarterbacks, 319 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: not like you get to pick other players. Same thing 320 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: with the Broncos. They had a limited amount of draft 321 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: capital because of the moves that they have made over 322 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: the years, and they picked bow Knicks and their team's 323 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: not that good. But the Bears were in a unique situation. 324 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: They had two top ten picks. Obviously, you take Caleb 325 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: every day the week and twice on Sundays, like that's 326 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: the right pick. But they had the ninth pick, and 327 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: it was pretty fascinating the discourse between who they were 328 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: gonna take. Should they take a defensive lineman, should they 329 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: take one of the wide receivers. It doesn't feel like 330 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: there was that much talk about an offensive lineman. And 331 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: I go back and I think about Jim Harbaugh, who 332 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: last year. Leading up to the end of the season, 333 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: it was pretty clear Jim Harball wanted to come back 334 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: to the NFL. Right was inevitable, Jim Harbaugh was going 335 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: to be an NFL coach, and it was like, should 336 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: the Bear just, I don't know, fire Ebra flues and 337 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: hired Jim Harball. Now, clearly that came and went. Jim 338 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: Harbaugh's now with the Chargers. But then there was a 339 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: lot of talk leading up to the draft, would Jim 340 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: Harbaugh take Malik Neighbors or Marvin Harrison? And then he 341 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: drafts Joe Walt and says in the press conference on 342 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: Thursday night, we were never going to take anyone else 343 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: but Joe Walt, and we view the offensive lineman at 344 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: the as the tip of the spear. We view them 345 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: as offensive weapons. And through the two weeks, what's going on? 346 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: Pretty sure? JK. Dobbins is leading the NFL in rushing 347 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: and they are pounding people. Why that's what Jim harbaughd does? 348 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: Why makes it easy on the quarterback? I love Romadoon 349 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: Day was a stud in college. I think he's going 350 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: to be a stud in the NFL. Everyone that interviewed 351 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: him and scouted him, high character, guy, leader, He's a badass. 352 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: I'd want him on my team every day of the 353 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: week and twice on Sundays. But after watching that game 354 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: against the Houston Texans where Caleb Williams was absolutely getting destroyed, 355 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: and let's face it, there are some question marks with 356 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: the Bears. If Jim Harbaugh had in some other world 357 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 1: then the head coach of the Bears in this draft 358 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: and they take Caleb Williams number one, who do you 359 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: think they take it nine? I know who they don't 360 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: take and that's roma. Dudes say, Now, what offensive lineman 361 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: he liked the most after J. C. Latham and Joe Walt, 362 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know have his draft board, 363 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: but he would have taken an offensive lineman. And I 364 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: stopped Baldinger today tweet out as he does these videos 365 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: of guys that are having a lot of success, like 366 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: the All twenty two tape and fu Waga, the first 367 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: round pick by the Saints from Morgan State, was a 368 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: super high end prospect. He was a guy I would 369 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: say pretty universally viewed as a top fifteen pick. He's 370 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: their starting left tackle, but he can play guard. He 371 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: can probably play all five positions. He's I don't know 372 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: if he's ever gonna be Trent Williams, like super All star. 373 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the talk before the draft, but 374 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: he was viewed as like this guy's not gonna suck, 375 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: and he's been awesome through two weeks, and I wonder 376 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: if the Bears could get a do over, they just 377 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: would have taken him because could have played him at 378 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: left tackle, you could have played him at left guard. 379 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: You just probably should have taken an offensive lineman. And 380 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: they feel good about Rome, I'm sure, but I think 381 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: football is shown as something when you get an opportunity 382 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: to take a high end offensive lineman, like it was 383 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: a luxury because of the trade to have the two 384 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: picks in the top ten. And I think, looking back, 385 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: it's just a mistake. And I think Harbaugh's onto something. 386 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: You can never have enough good offensive lineman. Look at 387 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: the two look at the game on Monday night. Those 388 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: two teams have really good offensive lines. Why they've invested 389 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: a lot of capital in that position because it matters. 390 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: I watch way too much forty nine ers and focusing 391 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: on their offensive line. And Kyle's philosophy is we will 392 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: take skilled guys over offensive linemen. And I don't know, 393 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: man like I hear it when we're talking a center, 394 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: But when you get a guy that can play right 395 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: or left tackle, I would take that guy every day 396 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: of the week over a wide receiver because I can 397 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: find a wide receiver later. It is hard to find 398 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: tackles outside of the top couple rounds, and even when 399 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: you do, you see Andy Reid like there's a lot 400 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: of growing pains. They're starting a left tackle who they 401 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: drafted the end of the second round and it's gonna 402 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: be a long season for him. Now, over the course 403 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: of his career, maybe he develops into a Pro Bowl 404 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: level player, but he's gonna get his lunch taken a 405 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: lot this season, but investing the offensive line, they will 406 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: not regret it in two or three years. If that 407 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: guy's a high end player, it's the right pick before 408 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: we dive into college football. Brian Flores, who is just 409 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: I think when you factor in that Dimiko's a head coach, 410 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: uh Fangio might be losing his fastball. I'm trying to 411 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: think of other high end Sola. Definitely it's not even 412 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: a DC as the head coach, but that Brian Floor 413 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: is the best defensive coordinator in the league. And if 414 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: what he's doing on defense was on offense, we would 415 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: be discussing him like Quint kobiek or Andy Reider, Kyle Shanahan, 416 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: like you get a lot more Brownie points on offense 417 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: than you do on defense. But Brian Floor is elite. 418 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: And after the Niner game, Perty went up to him 419 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: and was like, your scheme's crazy, man, I had no 420 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: clue where anything was coming from. And Flora's kind of 421 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: this old school hard ass barely even acknowledged him, just 422 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: walked right off. And even Kyle was mentioning it today 423 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: in his conference call. Maybe it was Monday, how awesome 424 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: that scheme is because of all the different exotic stuff 425 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: he can run. Gets back to the Belichick days. They 426 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: don't have a scheme. They can do everything. It's like 427 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: he just plays out. No, they can play Man two. 428 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: They'll blitz all the time. Well, if that's not working, 429 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: they won't blitz like Vic Fangil. What's the knock on him? 430 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: Never blitzes. He just won't blitz. It's like, I'm not 431 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: a huge believer. Like, and it's really difficult to do 432 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: what Bill does because most people can't learn all this stuff, 433 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: Like it's a lot to handle. It's like, what's your scheme? Hey, 434 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: we don't really have one. We just do whatever we 435 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: have to do against that specific offense. I do wonder 436 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: because Brian Flora is from a football standpoint, you're not 437 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna schematics on the field debate how elite of an 438 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: assistant coach he is. Like when the dust settles at 439 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: the end of the year offense defense, he'll be a 440 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: top three or four coordinator. And there's a chance if 441 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: Minnesota's just good this year, you could argue, we'll see 442 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: how if Clint Kubiak can keep this up, Like he's 443 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: the best coordinator offense or defense non head coach in 444 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: the NFL. I do think it's gonna be hard to 445 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: shake that to a thing because like, yeah, okay, you're 446 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: a great defensive coordinator. You get the defense rolling that 447 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: happened in Miami. Their defense was good. If I was 448 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: a GM or I was an owner, it's like, can 449 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: this guy deal with quarterbacks? And I don't think he's 450 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: gonna be able to answer that question. And that's gonna 451 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: be something that's gonna be really hard to overcome because listen, 452 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: it's too awarth the contract they gave him. I never 453 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: believe that from the start, but once he's on your team, 454 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: your success is tied to that position, and as the 455 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: head coach, you have to change that mentality from this 456 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: hard ass defensive guy to like, I need this guy 457 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: to succeed in my job. This guy's gonna be the 458 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: highest paid guy in the organization. We just used a 459 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: fifth overall pick on this player. I gotta be able 460 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: to communicate with him. I gotta be able to have 461 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: a close relationship with him. Doesn't mean I can't coach 462 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: him hard, doesn't mean I have to go to dinner 463 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: with him three times a week. But like our relationship, 464 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: our success is incumbent on this player. Like the reason 465 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: the Vikings are winning. Obviously their defense is good with Flores, 466 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: it's because fucking Sam Darnold. If you just gave him 467 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: Will Levis, they'd be going too. So like the quarterback, 468 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: And why does Kevin O'Connell get so much credit and 469 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: held to such highest team? He can deal with quarterbacks. 470 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: So Flores is a badass defensive coordinator. He's elite. But 471 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: when we talk about being a head coach, because his 472 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: name's gonna come up as this season goes, if they 473 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: keep having success, it's hard for me to shake that 474 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: situation when you can't deal with by far the most 475 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: important player on the team. Okay cough. On campus, which 476 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: I can't imagine being on as a student because I 477 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: don't know how much more you'd have to pay me 478 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: to attend a class. I can't imagine doing homework taking tests. 479 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: So props to everyone that's in school right now that 480 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: is doing homework and takeing tests, because that's hard. Number 481 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: one cop on campus. We got a sweet game this week, 482 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: like an incredible game on paper. Oklahoma Tennessee. Now Oklahoma, 483 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: they're in the top fifteen but they got a lot 484 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: of injuries. They have not been that great this season, 485 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: but they're playing in Norman, Oklahoma and Tennessee. Looks like 486 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: could they be a sleeper national champion team. They just 487 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: played Kent State beat them like seven hundred to nothing. 488 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: But to me, the cool part about this game, Bob 489 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: Stoops put out a tweet at the beginning of the 490 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: week that said, I will not be doing any interviews. 491 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: Why would you do that? Well, Venables, the coach at Oklahoma, 492 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: was his assistant for thirteen years. Josh Hipel was the 493 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Oklahoma team that won Bob Stoops the 494 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: national championship and then became a coach and later became 495 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator who Bob Stoops ended up firing, and 496 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: he kind of fired Venables too. Slash pushed him out 497 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: when he made his brother after Mike Stoops was fired 498 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: from Arizona where Nick Foles was playing and came back 499 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: to Oklahoma. So they have this weird connected tissue here 500 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: of all these coaches and Josh Hipel, who you get 501 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: some different reviews from scouting buddies that have gone through 502 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: his programs over the year. Big chip on his shoulder, 503 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Guy now he was a lowly recruited guy who really 504 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: only Mike Leech believed in, who went on to become 505 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: a national championship college quarterback and become a really really 506 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: good college coach, has a potential to become one of 507 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: maybe a top five coach if Tennessee this year is 508 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: like in the Final four. But we finally are getting 509 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: these Oklahoma and Texas SEC games and it's gonna be 510 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: really fun. And this game the hype between Venables and 511 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: Josh Heipel for years in practice as the OC and 512 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: the DC in the two thousands and early twenty tens 513 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: went against each other every day in practice. I can't 514 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: imagine how much time these two humans have spent together 515 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: in staff meetings, in staff recruiting trips, just around each 516 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: other on the field workouts. Like these guys know each 517 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: other really, really well. And it's all connected with Bob, 518 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: who is like the spokesman for the university. So very 519 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: very excited for this game on Saturday. Well, arch Manning 520 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: ever give back his starting spot. Quinn Ewers just randomly 521 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: gets injured. It was a non contact injury against I 522 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: think they were playing UTSA. I was not even playing 523 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: on watching the game, and then I see on the 524 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: internet Arch Banning's in the game, so I immediately turn 525 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: on the game. Now, let me say this, the game 526 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: against Michigan, whether you were in on Quinn viewers or not, 527 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: you could not watch that game and not say they 528 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: can win a national championship with this player. And he's 529 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: clearly a high end NFL prospect. So he's really good. 530 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: Like I watched him last year, I wasn't sold as 531 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: some top ten pick, as some guy that just was 532 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: some lock. You could win the Natty with the guy 533 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: that he had become this year. I'm not saying he 534 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: didn't have moments, but that game at Michigan, I was 535 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: like I'm in from a consumer standpoint, from a fan 536 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: basis standpoint, from a national standpoint, it's a tough spot 537 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: for Quinn Eewers because no one wants to see him 538 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: play when that's his backup. If his backup was Arch 539 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: middlef it would not be the same. Hey, it's the 540 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: number one overall recruit. He's getting paid a bunch of nil. 541 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: It'd be like, when Quinn is ready, go back to him, 542 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: but what do you do? They don't know how long 543 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna miss. But let's just say he misses the 544 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: next two games they play, I think Louisiana in row 545 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: and then Mississippi State, which they'll probably blow both those 546 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: two teams out. What if he's ready to go heading 547 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: into the Oklahoma game, because they go back to back 548 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and then Georgia, and even if Texas is a 549 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: lot better than Oklahoma, that's I mean, that's why you 550 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: play at Texas to play in that game. How do 551 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: you bench that player? And Arch is gonna say all 552 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: the right things, he would gladly go back, But I 553 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: think this is a tough spot for Sark. And at 554 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: this point, if Arch is rolling and Quinn's like, yeah, 555 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: he could go this week, I wonder what happens. I 556 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: really do, because this is not a position where it's 557 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: not like Quinn was going to come back to school 558 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: after this year. He's gone, so I do think that 559 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: makes the decision easier. And I think if Arch is 560 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: running around throwing a bunch of touchdowns and they just 561 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: look exactly like they've done with Quinn, I'd be a 562 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: little stunned if they went back to him. And the 563 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: shitty part for Quinn, who looked like he was about 564 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: to have a massive season become like the probably win 565 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy. I don't think anyone wants to see 566 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: him again Florida State. Did we jinx Florida State? I 567 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: think that is the question we had on my guy 568 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: Derrick Ray, who is the GM. They had just gone 569 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: thirteen to one. They have not won a game, They 570 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: have not won a game, and they have looked terrible. 571 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: And the problem for them is they play Cal this week, 572 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: callous three and zero. Their superstar running back, who's a 573 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: top fifty pick if he's healthy, has been banged up, 574 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: barely played, but their quarterback has been off. As of today, 575 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: Cal is better than Florida State if you go zero 576 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: to four. Even if Cal is better than you, like 577 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: they've already lost to worse teams than Cal. But if 578 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: you lose this team from Berkeley with a lot of 579 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: weird shit going on, and they roll into Tallahassee and 580 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: beat you and kind of beat your ass, which is 581 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: very possible, like shove you around by ten plus points, 582 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: things are gonna get weird, and they're gonna get weird fast. 583 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: There Now, Mike Norvell has buyouts like sixty five million dollars. 584 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't deserve, even with a terrible season to get fired. 585 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: College football is crazy, man, it really is. It's what 586 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: have you done for me lately? And he rightfully so 587 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: is going to take a lot of shift for DJ, 588 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: because DJ, he doesn't even look like a Division one starter, 589 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: not even remotely close. He's he's one of the worst 590 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: players I've watched this season at quarterback college football. He's 591 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: like unplayable. You can't you can't function with the guy, 592 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: so you lose the cow. Things are clearly already weird. 593 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: It starts getting really weird really fast. This is just 594 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: an awesome game, even if Michigan is down and they 595 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: just started Orgy the quarterback who can't really throw but 596 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: he can run, and USC we don't know quite how 597 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: good they are, but USC Michigan. This is why. And 598 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: my fifth one is the conference re alignment. They kind 599 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: of tie into each other. I miss the Pac twelve. 600 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: It sucks. Texting with my cousin who played at Fresno State, 601 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: we were texting a lot about like, how anti climatic 602 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: is it that Fresno State finally gets invited to the 603 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: Pac twelve where they've been dying to get in for 604 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: thirty years? And it feels like a shittier deal than 605 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: just staying in the Mountain West. Because you can call 606 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: I could call this podcast Apple Incorporated or Nike. I'm 607 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: not Nike. You can call it the PAC twelve. But 608 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 1: the moment USC and UCLA left it died, it's over. 609 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: You don't have a valuable property. No one cares about 610 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: Corvallis and Pullman, Washington in terms of like the networks 611 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: aren't lining up to give you more money. Your value 612 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: is your value, and it's not very high. The value 613 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: of the PAC twelve was in USC, was in UCLA, 614 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: was in Oregon, was in Washington. They don't exist. Salt 615 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: Lake City's in the Big twelve, Colorado's in the Big twelve. 616 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: The Arizona schools are never coming back. You're done. It's over, 617 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: and it's it's sad. It makes me sad still, but 618 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: it happened, and I got to embrace it. So you 619 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: get USC Michigan. I'm not like some SEC guy because 620 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: I grew up on the West coast, but like Texas 621 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: Georgia being a conference game is pretty cool, Oklahoma Tennessee 622 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: being a conference game is pretty cool. And USC Michigan, 623 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: even if it's not the Harbaugh led national champions. It's 624 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: not the same. That's sweet, and it doesn't feel normal. 625 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't like Oregon playing Ohio State and saying that's 626 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: a conference game is weird. It just is. UCLA playing 627 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: Rutgers as a conference game is weird. But you just 628 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 1: got to embrace it. There's one school watching Arizona Kansas 629 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: State last week, it was like, you know what Arizona does, 630 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: feels like a Big twelve school. They really do. They 631 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: are probably the lone school that has made this transition. 632 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: You're like, that completely fits. You can say Colorado because 633 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: they used to be in the conference, but like they've 634 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: been in the Back twelve for a while now. I've 635 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: gotten used to seeing Colorado play Oregon, Washington State, cal 636 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: like those games. Like I kind of got used to it. 637 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: I forget when I was a kid in Colorado is 638 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: playing the text A and M's and Nebraska's right, So 639 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: like my mind, like to me, Arizona they feel right 640 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: at home in the Big twelve. USC Michigan feels a 641 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: little weird as a conference game. Oklahoma, Georgia or Texas 642 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: Florida as a conference game, like that's a little weird. 643 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: It just is. But we're now in the conference play 644 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get a lot of these. You know, 645 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be part of our weekly Saturdays where 646 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: it's like Nebraska's playing Washington for a conference game, Like, Yeah, 647 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: that's that's what happens. That's where we're at. So let's 648 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Day mailbag at John Middlecoff Instagram. Fire into 649 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: those dms. Just my name, DM's wide open. We'll start 650 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: with Cole thought for the bag. I was listening to 651 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: your recap of the Falcons and the Eagles, and I 652 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: think even more damning part about Sirianni going for it 653 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: on fourth down when it was zero zero that he 654 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: was not consistent. If that is your philosophy, how do 655 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: you not then also go for it again the next 656 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: time when it's fourth and three on the Atlanta six. 657 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: This situation in particular felt like the Eagles had going 658 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: for it written all over them. He kicked it. If 659 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: going for it is your philosophy, go for it after 660 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: the Saque drop to end the game right there, or 661 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: leave Kirk backed up to his goal line. Sure, it's 662 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: a three point game if you don't convert. But the 663 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: Falcons only needing a field goal wouldn't have been as 664 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: aggressive as they were down six. He kicked again, kick 665 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: all three times or go for it all three times, 666 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: and at the least it shows consistent philosophy and strategy. 667 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: There's no rhyme or reason. Well, I think there are 668 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: a couple of things there. Why he goes for it 669 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 1: when they're down nine to seven because the game's playing out, 670 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: so you realize this is not going to be some 671 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: thirty to twenty seven shootout. This is going to be 672 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: a low scoring, defensive game. So the three points, as 673 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: we talked about right after the game, are vital. You 674 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: don't know that when the game is zero zero. But 675 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: to me, the unknown is why you take the points, 676 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: because you have no clue how the game is going 677 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: to play out. In regardless, three points do matter take 678 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 1: an early lead, but I think it's much easier when 679 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: the game is established himself for him to pivot from 680 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: the situation where they are inclined to go for it always, 681 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: but go, hey, fifteen points might win this game. So 682 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: if I take three here, that's a big deal. And 683 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: he was right, it was a big deal. I think, 684 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: looking back at the situation, at the end of the game. 685 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: Then if you run the ball on third and three 686 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: instead of throwing it to saque Had, I think the 687 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: previous play just ran for three yards. So if you 688 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: run for let's say you don't even get the first down, 689 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: but you run for two yards, well you do two things. One, 690 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: you keep the clock going, but you also put yourself 691 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: in the most advantageous possible of any NFL team because 692 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: you have the tush push. So they would have just 693 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: gone for it there with the tushbush, it's like a 694 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: ninety percent hit rate, get a first down the game ends. 695 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: So I think Sirianni's all over the map. It's like 696 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: he wants to stick with the analytics, but he's also 697 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: got the gut feels. And then you find yourself in 698 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: no man's land, cause it's not really if you ask me, 699 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 1: like what his philosophy is, I don't know. He feels 700 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: like a politician just changes his fucking tune all the time. 701 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: Newer listener love the addition to my leak weekly rotation 702 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: of pods. Central Valley Native wondering how can Fresno State 703 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: football become a powerhouse and shake off its Mountain West 704 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: stereotypes top tier coaching hire crazy boosters and then il 705 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: the support here is crazy and wand your opinion, there 706 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: is no shot. A school like Fresno State can't put 707 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: any more resources given its situation, right them, Boise State, 708 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: Appalachian State was that way for a long time. They 709 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: can't compete. I know a lot, I know the head coach, 710 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in the program and 711 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: around the program. They're paying Their top paid player makes 712 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty grand. They just have no shot 713 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: to compete. You're not gonna be able to keep players there. 714 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: Why would you want to play in the Mountain West 715 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: if you become a star and then people from the 716 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: Big Ten or the SEC call it happened two years 717 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: ago where their best player went to Oregon in the 718 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: transfer portal and no one even blamed him because like 719 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: his brother was there. But still it kind of is 720 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: what it is now. I think big picture as college 721 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: football even shrinks in the sense of if we just 722 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: go to two conferences. The Big Ten in the SEC 723 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: just morphed into the AFC NFC. What happens to the 724 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: Fresno States In Washington States and Boise States of the world. 725 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: You can be called yourself the Pac Twelve, the Mountain West. 726 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna feel like the minor leagues compared to those games. Now. 727 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: If they still play those teams in the non conference, 728 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. I love Fresno State. Fresno State 729 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: football is a huge reason why I'm sitting here right now, 730 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: but I don't think there's anything they can do. I 731 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: live out in Kansas and I love to play golf 732 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: and watch football. Brent, you sound like my type. Guy. 733 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm a big Chiefs fan and agreed with your instant 734 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: reaction after the Ravens. I feel like this could be 735 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: the best team we've had. One week later, I'm a 736 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: bit worried because it does feel like we got out 737 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 1: played and our O line got worked, specifically the left tackle. 738 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: Are the Bengal just a bad matchup for the Chiefs 739 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: or why wouldn't every team we play do the same 740 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 1: things the Bengals just did well. They're definitely a bad matchup. 741 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: No team plays you better in the regular and the 742 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: postseason is them? Right? Like, you don't look at the 743 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: Ravens as equals. How could you even the Bills can 744 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: beat you in the regular season. You're now very like 745 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: you are not. Not that you wouldn't be worried in 746 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: a playoff game, but you'd be confident you're winning. This 747 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: is the one game that just feels like they're mirror 748 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: images of each other when they play. Now, what's weird 749 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: is how can the Bengals look that good against the 750 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: Chiefs and that shitty against the Patriots. But that's neither 751 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: here nor there. When you start a rookie, and Andy 752 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have started him if he wasn't their best option. 753 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: And they invested a second round picking him, they believe 754 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: in him. And starting a rookie is not about week two, 755 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: it's about the next ten years, right, you think the 756 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: guy is going to be a ten year starter for you. 757 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: I saw he had a comment today that sometimes you 758 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: have to take a step backwards before you take a 759 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: step forwards. Unless you're Randy Moss. There is a small, small, 760 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: small percentage of rookies, even guys that are Hall of famers, 761 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers, that aren't gonna have some bumps in the 762 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: road and playing left tackle or just playing you can 763 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: pleae a right tackle too. As a rookie has to 764 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: be I would say, right up there with playing quarterback, 765 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: as a rookie because most weeks you are going to 766 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: get Aiden Hutchinson, Max Crosby, TJ. Watt, Nick Bosa. Like 767 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: there are no left and right sides. These defensive linemen 768 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: move wherever you are. They will hunch you down. Aaron Donald, 769 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: if your weak player was a tackle like, they would 770 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: put him over there. He was a deep. He was 771 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: like a three technique. We saw Chris Jones doing that 772 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,959 Speaker 1: week one. He's like, shit, I'll play over the right tackle. 773 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: I'll play over the center, play wherever he wants, wherever 774 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: the mark is. And when you are a rookie, you 775 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: are the person circled by the defensive coordinator and their 776 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: best players. Think about what happened Monday night. Mitchell, the 777 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: first round pick from Toledo, who I would bet on 778 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: becoming a really really good player, who toy kirk Cousins 779 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: attack on that final drive. He went left three straight times, 780 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 1: I guess two straight times for big plays against him. 781 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: One time he bit on the flat route and the 782 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: other time they just attacked him with Mooney on an 783 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: out route and he kind of juped him out. Even 784 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: though Darius Slay is probably not as physically gifted at 785 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: this point in time as the rookie. But you just 786 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: put the rookie in uncompromising situations, so he's gonna have 787 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: rough moments. There is no circumventing that you can't get 788 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: away from it. Like this week you play the Falcons, Well, 789 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: I know Judon was over the right tackle, but why 790 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't you line Judon sometimes over the rookie when you 791 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: play the Raiders. Where do you think Crosby's gonna line up? 792 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: When you play the forty nine ers, like you think 793 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 1: they were gonna put in Nick Bosa, You're just gonna Harbaugh. 794 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: He's just gonna be relentless with Mac and Bosa over 795 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: the guy. There's nothing you can do, dude, there's no 796 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: way to get You can give him help, but like 797 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: he just kind of got to work through it. And 798 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: this is your greatest benefit as the Chiefs fan. Is 799 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: your quarterbacks a fucking magician one. He can get the 800 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: ball out of his hands when he needs to, and 801 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: he can just make things happen. But he's gonna take 802 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: some sacks because of this player. A lot was made 803 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,800 Speaker 1: of Kyle Pitts and his potential in the fantasy football 804 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: community and among Atlanta Falcons fans. Everyone's always blaming the 805 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: coaches the schemes for underutilizing the player. Well, now the 806 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,959 Speaker 1: quote unquote bad man Arthur Smith is gone and there's 807 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: a new coaching crew in town, and pitt still doesn't 808 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,760 Speaker 1: put up numbers anywhere near to what he's projected coming 809 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: out of college. I heard multiple high level football analysts 810 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: say he was literally a can't miss prospect. So what 811 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: do you think it is? Is he just a bust 812 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: or is he underutilized? I'd be lying if I said 813 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: I've like studied him on all twenty two. I would 814 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: have to text some people in the league who have, 815 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: like really really studied them. There have been a lot 816 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: of players like Kyle Pitts at a lot of different 817 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 1: positions that were viewed as can't miss players and aren't 818 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: as good in the NFL. Like he is not alone. 819 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 1: And I think if this season plays out and he's 820 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: healthy and he doesn't produce that much, it's time to 821 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: look at him like he was overrated. He clearly was 822 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: really really overrated. I think it can be difficult when 823 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: your tight end is a one dimensional player, right and 824 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: he is strictly he the wide receiver, that's all he 825 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: is now. You could argue Travis Kelcey is like that 826 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: as well. He's also matched up with one of the 827 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: greatest play callers in the history of the sport and 828 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen, and they've 829 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: built their offense around him. Where you go, the Falcons 830 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: are not building their offense around this player. What do 831 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: the Falcons want to do right now? With b John Robinson? 832 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 1: They want to run the ball? Well, Kyle Pitt's gonna block? 833 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: Probably not. That's not going to be a strength of his. 834 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: So he's a slot receiver, you know. I don't know. 835 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 1: I don't have a great answer for you. I do 836 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,720 Speaker 1: just wonder if it's more difficult to utilize this player 837 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: in the flow of your offense than fantasy football experts thought, 838 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: because he's such a one trick pony. But you also 839 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 1: have good wide receivers, you have a running game and 840 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: an offensive line that you want to feature. I don't know. 841 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's clearly the hype does not equal what 842 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: we've witnessed. But I don't have a great answer for you. 843 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: But like I said, he's not alone. It happens to 844 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: a lot of players. You know. This came up last 845 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 1: night because those two running backs. This is a question, 846 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: do you think that the running backs are becoming more 847 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,919 Speaker 1: impactful than in previous years. I think we've talked about 848 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 1: this on previous episodes. Is you know the running backs 849 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: they got to they became controversial when the teams wouldn't 850 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: pay him, wouldn't give them contract extensions. Right, it didn't. 851 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't a media created narrative. It was the team 852 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: did something, and the players and all of us that 853 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: watch and talk about football react to it. But the teams, 854 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: the gms, the owners, the coaches, they did it. They 855 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: started paying guards and centers way more money than running backs. 856 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: And like, would I take Saquon Barkley at twelve or 857 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, Saquon Barkley at twelve million dollars or some 858 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 1: of these free agent guards that were making nineteen million 859 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: dollars during this free agency, I would take Saquon Barkley 860 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 1: every day of the week because I would feel pretty 861 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: confident that I could draft and develop a guard. Now 862 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: you could say the same thing at running back. But 863 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,720 Speaker 1: if I had to pay a guard nineteen million dollars, 864 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: who's not a Pro bowler? Or pay a Pro Bowl 865 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: running back. I'm paying the running back. So why has 866 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: it shifted? Well, running backs became a deal, they became 867 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: they went on sale, and some of these other positions 868 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: did not go on sale. D tackles. Christian Wilkins just 869 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: got eighty five million dollars guaranteed. Saquon Barklay got twenty seven. 870 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: So I think the economics of it all shifted. This 871 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: gets back to the Giants conversation of like, you don't 872 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: pay running backs, Well, they're not very expensive, they don't 873 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: cost very much money. They're not like it's just cheap saque. 874 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: His hands are clearly he's not Shady McCoy, he's not 875 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. His hands are a question mark. They're not great, 876 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: they're not bad, but they're just kind of as the 877 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: kids would say, mid. But he is a fantastic player. 878 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 1: And if I can get that player for twenty seven 879 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: million dollars, it's a no brain. It's the easiest contract 880 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: how he signed in the last like five years. I 881 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 1: also think when you look around the NFL, there are 882 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: just a lot of good running backs. You know, the 883 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: Colts Packer game was Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor. Last night 884 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: Saquon b John Robinson. You just go to all these games. 885 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 1: It's like a bunch of Thursday night game Breese Hall 886 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,240 Speaker 1: and demandre Stevenson. Like these are all just like really 887 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: really good players. So it's just supplying demand. A lot 888 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 1: of just good running backs are in the NFL, Like 889 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: guys that are legitimate starters that can run inside, they 890 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 1: can run outside, most of them catch, most of them 891 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: are three down players. So if I can get that 892 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 1: guy for ten million dollars a year, it feels like 893 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 1: a pretty good signing. Then overpaying some of these guards 894 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: and centers. Now, if you have a guy that's like 895 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 1: a seven time Pro Bowler, Creed Humphrey or Jason kelcey, okay, 896 00:52:54,680 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: if I'm paying Larry Allen, okay, But it's like paying 897 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: some of these guys that are not going to go 898 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl eighteen nineteen million dollars, I'd argue 899 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 1: we've jumped the shark there. Eagles fan, everyone talks about 900 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: how great and talented Jalen Carter is. I'm not seeing 901 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 1: at all. Am I missing something? Well? Physically gifted, his 902 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: skill set is elite. He's six ' five, three hundred pounds, 903 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: quick as a cat. But as Belichick would say, like, well, 904 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: can he play and his flash plays in college and 905 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL are still elite, But when you watch 906 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: over the course of a game, you don't feel his presence. Right, 907 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: the best defensive tackles in the NFL. You don't watch 908 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,760 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and not feel Chris Jones. You didn't watch 909 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and not feel him JJ Watt when he 910 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,879 Speaker 1: was humminged like you feel that player, and you watch 911 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: the Eagles and you don't feel either of the dudes. 912 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: I saw one of the former Eagles joiner. I wanted 913 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: to say Wally Joyner, but I'm blanking on his first name. 914 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: I think he's in the booth with Merril Reeese called 915 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis a bust. You know, like you invested two 916 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,240 Speaker 1: top fifteen picks in these two players, Like Jordan Davis 917 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: is irrelevant. Now him different like Jalen. When you draft 918 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 1: Jalen in the top ten, you're expecting him to be 919 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 1: a double jujitsack guy every single year. Well, I read 920 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,919 Speaker 1: a story today he didn't start the game. Why because 921 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 1: he was late for something during the week. But what 922 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 1: was the question on Jalen? How? End of football is 923 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter because you go back to Georgia, it was 924 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: like just a lot of question marks on the guy. 925 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 1: No one argued the talent, but sometimes when you're focused 926 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,720 Speaker 1: as other places, you don't live up to the talent. 927 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis just might not be good enough. Like there 928 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 1: aren't character concerns with him. He's just really heavy and 929 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: gets really tired and then becomes a relevant in the game. 930 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: Because I think Jimmy Johnson said it, but maybe it 931 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 1: was it was either like Newt Rockney or Vince Lombardi, 932 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: some famous coach said fatigue makes cowards of us all 933 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: And basically he was just giving a pump up speech 934 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: to Miami like ten years ago. This is way after 935 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: he was done coaching. But just why being in shape 936 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: is such a big deal, because it doesn't matter if 937 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: you're Mike Tyson, if you're Ray Lewis, if you're fucking 938 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, Barry Sanders. If you are tired, like fatigue 939 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 1: makes cowards of us all, you are not the same player. 940 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: You can't like, you can't function when you're out of 941 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 1: shape in the NFL, in football in general, like anyone 942 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 1: that played high school football. If you're sucking win, Like 943 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 1: you start getting shoved around really quick, but you don't 944 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: have anything. And so to me, Jordan Davis, you're getting 945 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 1: little to nothing out of him and Jalen Like, they're 946 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 1: just still question marks with the guy. Obviously the player. 947 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: He had a flash play last night, but they're not. 948 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: They didn't draft him in the top ten for flash plays, 949 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 1: and you just have to wonder, like, is he ever 950 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: going to live up to the talent? He is talented, 951 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,439 Speaker 1: He is really talented. Not playing like it, but it's there. 952 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: But there have been a lot of players like him 953 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: throughout the history of the league, guys that oozed ability 954 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: and because of focus, because of maturity, because of whatever 955 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: off the field, the intangible stuff never lived up to it. 956 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: And sometimes like you just get with the right people. 957 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: There's also a competitive element to this, Like I would say, 958 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 1: let's use Warren Sap as an example. I think people 959 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 1: had some question marks with him as a younger player. 960 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:53,280 Speaker 1: Pretty clear is a competitive sob right, dude was a badass. 961 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: So even if you are a little iffy about just 962 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 1: your study habits and you're working, how bad do you 963 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: want it? Lawrence Taylor Belichick's been telling these stories for 964 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: thirty years, sleeping coming and hungover, drugged out when that 965 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: game started. Was the craziest dude on the field. His 966 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: competitiveness was elite. How elite is your competitiveness? And that's 967 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: part of scouting. So sometimes average talents become high end 968 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: players because they have elite competitiveness. Will Anderson was a 969 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: guy coming out of college. I think some people question, 970 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: like how talented was he? Was he an elite talent? 971 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: Was he a top five talent? You don't want, no 972 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: one questioned, Not a soul at the program, not a scout, 973 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: not a coach, competitive makeup, So who are you betting 974 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: on Will Anderson that doesn't have the physical gifts? I 975 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: know they don't play the same position, but just let's 976 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: use this example. Whose competitive character, whose competitive makeup, whose 977 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: football care is off the fucking charts, or the guy 978 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 1: with Hall of Fame talent oozing out of every pore 979 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 1: in his body. It's like, yeah, sometimes I care, Sometimes 980 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't. Sometimes it's like, yeah, I just I'll get 981 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: off this snap and hold this block and just go 982 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 1: to the next snap. I think history would show us 983 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: who you bet on. And I think when you bet 984 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: on those guys, sometimes you hit and they become Hall 985 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: of famers, and sometimes they're the worst player to have 986 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 1: on your team because you hold out hope for so long. 987 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: The Eagles just lost a lot like Fletcher Cox and 988 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: Jason Kelce, a lot of competitive character right there, a 989 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: lot of focus, a lot of like fucking around ain't 990 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 1: tolerated in practice because what two groups spend the most 991 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: time together, the O and D line, Right when you 992 00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: break from individual they usually go together, right, So it's like, 993 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: that's a big loss. And I just think you're seeing 994 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: guys underperform. And I think sometimes and I'm guilty of this, 995 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 1: we blame coaches, right and I put a lot on 996 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL. But at the end of the day, 997 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 1: certain humans, like if you can push every button, if 998 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 1: they're unwilling to do certain things and have the competitive makeup, 999 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 1: you could argue it doesn't really matter. I know this. 1000 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: The Patriots and now the Chiefs are doing this. Won 1001 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: a lot of games and a lot of Super Bowls 1002 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: with a lot of guys playing on both sides of 1003 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 1: the ball that not many people would have said will 1004 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: be starters on the best team in the league when 1005 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: they were in college or around the draft time. But 1006 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 1: their character, their football intelligence, their intangible makeup is a 1007 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 1: separating factor. And the one thing I learned working in 1008 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: the NFL and now doing this for a long time 1009 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,959 Speaker 1: is that stuff is still underrated. We don't talk about 1010 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: it enough. And I'm just as guilty as anybody. I 1011 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: listen to the show every day, huge, huge Bears fan. 1012 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Why are the Bears not interested in a guy like 1013 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak. The Vikings have the tall Sean McVay, the 1014 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Packers have Laflor. Why would the Bears not be interested 1015 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 1: in a young offensive coach? Well, they kept Eberflus, so 1016 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: if you're talking about as a head coach, they decided 1017 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 1: to roll back with Eberflus. He got his makeover, his hair, 1018 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 1: his beard, And I don't think the Bears are gonna 1019 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, so they're gonna They're gonna be in 1020 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,479 Speaker 1: the coaching right They're gonna be looking for a coach. 1021 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 1: I think the question mark is going to be will 1022 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 1: they go with one of these offensive hot shots? And 1023 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: I would imagine because of the Caleb Williams influence, they 1024 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: will so, Ben Johnson, Clint Kobiak, any other star guy 1025 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 1: working for O'Connell, McVeigh, Kyle in that world, I would 1026 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 1: be if you tell me right now, Bears missed the playoffs, 1027 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: iber Flus gets fired, Who do they hire? I think 1028 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: one they do that. Now you could argue, why not 1029 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: just hire the best coach possible? Why not just hire 1030 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel? You don't think Mike Vrabel would work with 1031 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams because I saw Mike Vrabel when he had 1032 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 1: a healthy Ryan Tannehill. They were good, like Mike Frable works. 1033 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: That's who I think that's a safe hire because for 1034 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,440 Speaker 1: every Kyle and McVeigh, there are a lot of guys 1035 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 1: that fail. Now you could argue, is is Caleb fail 1036 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 1: proof based on two weeks? Clearly? Like it's football, it's hard. 1037 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: There's no guarantee he's going to be some star. So 1038 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 1: my guess is there would be so much pressure on 1039 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 1: the organization, on Ryan Poles to hire an offensive guy 1040 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 1: for Caleb, that that is what they would do. That 1041 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 1: they would do that, But look at the team in 1042 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: their division, Like Dan Campbell's working pretty well, mattla Floor 1043 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: is kind of unique. He's pretty freaking good. Clearly, whoever 1044 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: they hire, and if you hire Clint Kubiak. The run 1045 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,920 Speaker 1: game should be a huge part of what they do. 1046 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 1: It should become Caleb Williams's best friend. It translates to 1047 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 1: bad weather when Chicago, November, December, bad weather, Green Bay outdoors. Right. 1048 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it makes too much sense. So 1049 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: to me, Clint Kubiak, I don't know that much about him, 1050 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 1: Like I don't know him personally, but what he's doing 1051 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: and his resume with that offense speaks for itself. Now, 1052 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: there's more to being a head coach than just being 1053 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 1: a great offensive play color. How you are as a leader, 1054 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 1: how you can handle the room, how you are as 1055 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 1: an evaluator, how you can manage everything going on as 1056 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 1: a head coach. It's difficult, so you don't really get 1057 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 1: to answer those questions. So you're put in that situation. 1058 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 1: And let's face it, the majority of guys, it's like, well, 1059 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: fifty percent of first round picks fail. I don't think 1060 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 1: it's any different with coaches. Most coaches are fired within 1061 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: three or four years. Most coaches don't just become Tomlin, 1062 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Andy and Harbaugh. Yeah, twenty years later, they're still kicking ass. 1063 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: Not usually the way it works. So it's a very 1064 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 1: risky situation. And I would say this in terms of 1065 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: you have so much more information, like when Ryan Poles 1066 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 1: drafted Caleb Williams and Roma Dunsay. The amount of scouting 1067 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: information due diligence they have done on those two humans 1068 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 1: was countless weeks, not hours. I'm talking weeks. When you 1069 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 1: hire a coach, you do like couple zoom interviews, you 1070 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 1: call some references, and you like, watch what their team did. 1071 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: It's kind of a crazy process. Now it's much easier 1072 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: to evaluate when Andy Reid gets fired. You want to 1073 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 1: hire Andy Reid as a sixteen year resume in Philadelphia? 1074 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 1: Right if Tomlin ever were to get fired in Pittsburgh, 1075 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 1: which looks like we're gonna win the division, But you 1076 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like Pete Carroll, like these guys 1077 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 1: that have coached Bill Belichick, like you know they can 1078 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: do it. When you get these coordinators, it's like, yeah, 1079 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 1: I like your offense, but how are you in front 1080 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 1: of the entire team? What do you like when our 1081 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,919 Speaker 1: star running back gets How do you handle when your 1082 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 1: star linebacker's mom gets cancer and has three weeks to 1083 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: live and he's really rattled? Like I mean, you just 1084 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: can't prepare for any of that, And the only way 1085 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 1: that you know they can do that is if they've 1086 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 1: done it before. Because if you've been a head coach 1087 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL, you basically dealt with everything from Dewey's 1088 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 1: to death, to injuries to you name it. There's probably 1089 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 1: not many situations if you've been a head coach for 1090 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 1: more than five years that haven't come across your desk 1091 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 1: with a player with a coach. I mean, coaches get 1092 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 1: in trouble, right, I mean, all sorts of shit happens, 1093 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 1: family issues, with yourself. It's it's got to be one 1094 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 1: of the most difficult situations to hire for when you're 1095 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,919 Speaker 1: hiring someone who hasn't been a head coach before, because 1096 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 1: the amount of unknown given how much you're gonna pay him. 1097 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna give that guy eight to ten 1098 01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: million dollars a starting salary, and you're success then is 1099 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 1: immediately tied to that guy. It's impossible to be a 1100 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 1: good GM with a bad coach. It's literally impossible. It 1101 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 1: does not exist. There has never been a Hall of 1102 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Fame or a high end GM that hasn't had an 1103 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 1: above average coach. Just like any coach would tell you, 1104 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 1: there's never been a great coach that hasn't had great players. 1105 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 1: They all go hand in hand. Ozzie and DaCosta look 1106 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: a lot better with John Arbun. Bret Veach would be 1107 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: the first tell you, I look a lot better with 1108 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 1: Andy Coach and the guys. It matters a lot the 1109 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 1: volume