WEBVTT - We Know Better Now Part 2 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:04.520 I won't let my body out out well everything that 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:07.920 I'm made dope, won't spend my life trying to change. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.440 I'm learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong, 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.840 I feel free, I know who every part of me. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:24.000 It's beautiful and now will always out way if you 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.040 feel it. With joys in the air, she'll some love 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.840 to the food. I am there. Let's say good day 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:36.560 and did you and die out? Happy Saturday? Outweigh fam 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.239 Amy and Lisa here with part two of We Know 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.440 Better Now. Now we skipped a week, so thanks for 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.120 being patient and waiting for this episode. But you know, 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:47.680 we explained to you all that we realized it was 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:49.920 Thanksgiving and we wanted you all to have that meditation 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:53.640 episode before you entered a lot of time with family, 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.680 friends and food, three big f's that can sometimes, you know, 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.440 require some meditation. So we hope you enjoyed that. And 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:03.680 this is the episode where I'm going to be sharing 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.280 what I know better now. If you missed the episode, 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.760 Releasa shared her as you can go back. Last week's 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.520 was the meditation and then the one before that nove 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:17.920 episode was Lisa sharing her things, and she ended the 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:22.200 episode by talking about body checking and bloating, and you 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.080 know that bloating isn't necessarily a bad thing. And it 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.959 made me think about something that I definitely now know 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.960 better is that I don't have to weigh myself. And 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.080 we've talked about that one or wait, weighing yourself a 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.040 lot on the podcast and even on my four Things podcast. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.360 It's something that I had to completely get rid of. 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:46.080 But I used to weigh myself sometimes three times a day, 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:50.440 and I would wonder or freak out if at night 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.120 I weighed more than I did in the morning. I 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.560 have compassion for that girl and where I was, and 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.840 that somehow my body was supposed to, magically, with some 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.640 food and water, be the same weight that it was 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.920 when I woke up in the morning. And I guess 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.120 I would give myself a little wiggle room at times, 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.080 but I would keep a log and I would journal things, 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.280 and I would even measure things. And I just know 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.600 better now that my body is going to fluctuate and 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.280 my body is going to change and there is no 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.680 reason that I need to track it. And I'm in 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.920 a much happier state with my body. And I feel 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.040 like it took me a long time to get there 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.600 because everywhere you look, you know you're being weighed, even 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.760 at the doctor. We don't do that anymore, or I don't. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.000 I have learned my doctor doesn't necessarily need to know 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.000 my weight, unless, of course they say, actually we we do. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.600 We've noticed something different and we need to gather that. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.480 Then I can give them that information. But you have 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.120 the power, even when you're at a doctor's appointment, to 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.000 be like, no, I'm not hopping on the scale right now. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.280 I don't want that to trigger me. And I had 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.200 to completely just move the scale out of my house. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.840 Some people be able to weigh themselves and it's not 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.320 triggering for me. That was a behavior where now I 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:09.640 know better and I am okay. If I my pants 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.280 are tighter one day, then they're not like I have 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.680 a connection of like, oh yeah, I ate food, or 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.560 I did this, or maybe what I consumed had a 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:20.919 lot of sodium, and I'm like, I breathe through it. 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.440 It's almost like I have such a connection to where 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.000 things make sense and it doesn't freak me out, whereas 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.679 before I would have been so disconnected that I would 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.800 have been freaking out, not taking into account that maybe 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.240 something I ate was high in sodium or something that 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.560 I ate was causing bloating in my stomach because it 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.840 was ruughage and that's what it does, and then it 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.560 would cause all this mental anguish when now I can 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.640 assess what I ate and be like, oh, yeah, wow, 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.320 I didn't realize the sodium was seven milligrams on that. Wow. Okay, 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.280 I might be a little puffy for a day or two, 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.360 and I'm okay with that. But also it might not 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.640 be anything that you did. We have normal weight fluctuations 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.600 with our cycle as amends, with a million different factors 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.120 that we can't even begin to grasp. So it's important 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.880 if there is a weight fluctuation that you don't necessarily 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.880 go right into. Okay, I did this, and I think 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.120 you were. Well, perhaps maybe I was more cruel to 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.000 myself amy than you were. But when I would weigh 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.800 myself obsessively, there was no wiggle room when there were 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.640 decimal point changes, I thought that meant that I need 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.880 to course correct, go harder. And all that did was 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.240 disconnect me from my own needs and my own true health, 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.159 which was me taking good care of me mind, body, 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.080 and spirit. Right, So I think that we all need 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.080 to understand that weight fluctuations are normal on a day 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.680 to day basis as well as over a life cycle. 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:44.560 You're not going to weigh what you did in high 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.920 school when you're twenty five. You're not going to weigh 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.000 probably what you weighed when you were twenty five when 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.680 you're thirty five, and so forth. And it's important to 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.120 not get too attached or think that you did something. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.400 When we are human beings in motion, we are not 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.719 static statues. We're not going to just like go around 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.920 just staying exactly the same. We are going to change 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.520 and flow, and oftentimes those changes are to protect us. 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:10.880 So I love I love that Amy, because I too 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.040 was a scale obsessor and I can now also, I 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:15.600 don't know where you're at with it now, but it's 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.280 been a long time for me, and I don't I'm 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.360 not personally triggered by it. I don't use it. I 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.200 don't have one in my house, but I could go 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.600 to the doctor and I don't really care what it says, 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.599 even if it's a bit higher than I think where 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.560 I'm usually at. I'm to a point where I don't 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.000 want to do it, and and that's that's what's good 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:35.000 for me. And I maybe in six months from now 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.640 or a year, because this is still fairly new for me. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.600 I'm trying to think, maybe it's been two years since 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.279 I've weighed myself. And when you, I mean, you're talking 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.280 like I've had disordered eating behaviors and been weighing myself 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:51.080 since I was a young teenager. So I mean two 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.360 years is nothing in the I mean, it is something 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.440 I want to acknowledge. One month, if you're one week, 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.920 if you're on this journey, one day is a may 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.760 zing and you should applaud yourself. But at the same time, 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.599 when I look at how many years I was doing that, 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.680 this is just what feels good for me. And I 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.600 know I don't want to see a number on a scale. 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:13.400 I don't need to see it, don't want to see 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.000 it doesn't matter. And that kind of rolls into another 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:21.760 thing that I now know better, and that sizes don't matter. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:26.080 And every clothing company has different sizes. Even the same 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.440 company might have two genes the same size and you 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.479 put them on and they fit differently, just because you 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.000 know machines, human arrow who knows what it is, but 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:39.480 not everything is exactly the same. And I used to 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.560 freak out over that. I'm like, this is my size, 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.040 and if I'm not fitting in my size, I will 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.280 not buy from this company because this is my size. 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.120 And there was no wiggle room with that because I 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:54.599 felt like if I went up any size number then 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.200 mentally I couldn't handle it. I was so attached to 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.000 a size number. And I now know better that numbers 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.320 don't matter on the scale, but then numbers don't matter 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:10.440 on my tags either. Or I used to hold onto 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.960 clothes that I thought would fit me one day when 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.280 I get there, and they just never did, and they 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.080 just sat in my closet and every time I'd go 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.960 to put them on, they contributed to poor body image 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.160 thoughts for me because I'm still not there yet. I'm 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.040 still not there yet. Or I might have bought the 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.040 pants that were smaller than I was in the moment 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.720 because that's where I want to go. That is doing 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.480 such a disservice to your mind and your body and 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.920 not allowing you to feel comfortable your You should wear 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.480 your clothes. Your clothes should not wear you. You should 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.440 be able to wear clothes that you put on that 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.720 make you feel confident, no matter what size. It says 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.600 and I think it's so important to recognize the variability 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:49.280 in sizing and not allow that to throw you off. Yeah, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.400 when I was able to let go of that, it 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.520 was a game changer because I can now order things 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.560 online and go into a store and buy things that, yes, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.920 are going to ultimately make me feel good and feel 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:07.720 more confident and feel cute without you know, thinking about 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.120 the tag on the inside that nobody else is even seeing. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.960 It's such a mind game with yourself, and you know, 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.400 no one probably sees the number on your scale either 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.240 for that matter, but we just we are our own 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.600 worst critic, Like we're the ones judging ourselves left and right. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.360 And I just feel like once I was able to 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.000 let that go, it just was such a thing where 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.120 I was like, Okay, I now know better, and I 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.960 know that I'm not the only one. And Lisa clearly 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.680 had some issues with that too, And I just want 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.000 you to know if you're doing that, it's okay. You're 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.280 not alone, and I hope that you will get to 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:42.000 a place where the size won't matter. I saw someone 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.520 put on Instagram the other day they were trying on 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.000 jeans at Target. Maybe it was a meme I don't know. 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.360 And she said, I put on a size sixteen pair 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.320 of jeans that I couldn't even zip up. And she's like, 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.520 so then I took him off. This kind of long 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.000 for a meme, but maybe I'm paraphrasing. I don't know 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.800 exactly how it went, but she's like, throw them on 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.520 the round. She goes put on my size ting jeans 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:06.160 that I wore into Target that day and left. I mean, 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.400 it was just to her, it was like, Okay, what 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.080 in the world, Like sizes are so off and they 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.080 don't mean anything right, but we've been trained to believe 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.679 if that number is up, then we have done something wrong. 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.120 And then you're wearing this other pair of pants that 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.960 says a completely different number. It goes to show how 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.080 much we dictate our own reality off of something external 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:29.360 versus taking inventory of where we are in space and 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:37.959 time and in our bodies, which rolls into another thing 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.679 that I now know better, and it's that we all 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:46.920 have different bodies. And just because someone else is doing 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:51.959 a certain quote unquote meal plan or quote unquote workout routine, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.960 I can match everything that person is doing, food item 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.040 for food item, workout move for workout move, and my 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.959 body might still look very different than whoever this person 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.240 is that I'm comparing myself to. Do you know who? 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:10.680 Jesse James Decker is Lisa a little bit. She's country World, right. Yeah, 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.600 she has a lot of different things going on. She's 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.280 married to a former football player, but they have very 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:20.320 active lifestyles, like whatever physique that you know, they show 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.400 off in their swimsuits and different things. And I like 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.920 Jesse James Zucker. I don't know her really well, but 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.120 she's come on the Bobby Bones Show before, and I 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.560 think she's really nice. Like I don't have anything bad 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.280 to say at all whatsoever. But she did put up 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.120 oh what I Eat in a day type thing, and 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.760 it ended up getting taken down because probably she got 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.560 so much heat for it. But it was really minimal food, 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.120 you know. It was like a smoothie, and then for 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.199 lunch it was like a piece of toast and maybe 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.560 some more coffee, and then for dinner it was a 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.400 tiny amount of protein with some veggis. And she has 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:59.040 so many girls and women that follow her, like millions, 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.880 and so I'm sure she got backlash for it, But 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.080 at the time, I was like, oh man, it's a 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.080 bummer that she put that up. I'm glad she took 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.360 it down, but I know girls already saw that, and 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.480 it's too late. And she does have this by society 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.559 standard type body that I'm pretty sure she's just I 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.760 don't want to take away that she works hard, because 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.040 I'm sure she works out and does what she needs 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.720 to do to feel confident in her body in that way. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.120 But you can't deny sometimes when someone is genetically a 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.920 certain way and then it's portrayed online of like, if 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.000 you do this workout and if you eat this food, 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.720 then you two can look like me, which is again 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.760 what is more acceptable by society standards. And I'm glad 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.079 that we're seeing more diversity out there and we're learning 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.640 because when I the reason why I think that or 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.400 I had to know better, the reason why I thought, 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.360 oh I can end up looking that way is because 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.160 society told me, if you do this, then this is 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.240 the body you will have. And now I feel like 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.040 we're doing a better job moving past that of like, no, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.720 look at all these beautiful bodies. This is not the 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.520 one way to look. This is not the only way. 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.400 So I'm thankful that young girls are seeing that. But 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.200 when she put up that post, I was like, Oh, 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.679 this is this is not the direction we need to go. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.560 So I'm glad she took it down. Yeah, there's something 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:19.000 called the thin ideal internalization, and it's the idea that 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.920 there's one way to look and we're psychologically affected and 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.560 we kind of eat up this message and believe that 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.520 if we can achieve this thin ideal, we will achieve 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.640 these positive outcomes health, happiness, confidence, you know, romantic success, 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.040 all of that. And you know, I think that when 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.160 you are in a body that is a thin ideal 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.360 like I have, or maybe I don't know her, but 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.320 like maybe she naturally is like that like you said, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.520 or maybe she even works hard. But when you live 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.120 in this body, I think it's important you still can 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:55.200 exist in your body, but it's important to recognize that 0:12:55.840 --> 0:13:00.199 the world has been chasing this ideal and therefore what 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:05.080 you put out there needs to be an acknowledgement of 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.440 either the body that you occupy or that you will 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.280 have a different outcome based on your own body, and 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.480 that that is beautiful too, and that food is not 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.200 the vehicle to achieve this body because there's not just 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.400 one body to arrive too. So I think we're like 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.120 slowly dismantling this idea. Like you said that there's one 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.800 way to look, and we're in the middle of that 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.040 where a lot of people are kind of like stuck 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.720 in the throws. I think we quickly arrived here, not 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.360 really quickly. The last five years, we kind of just 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:37.640 sped up the timeline of bs in diet world and 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.679 body image wise, and a lot of people haven't really 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.040 digested all of that information or understood how they could 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.400 possibly contribute negatively, even if they didn't mean to, even 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.480 if they don't have issues with the food or body 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.040 image themselves. But um, with social media, I think it 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:57.520 is really important for influencers of any size to be 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.920 aware of the impact that you're having on young women 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:05.520 when this thin ideal exists and not everybody can achieve 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.040 it or that needs to be the ideal. Right, So 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.720 we're dismantling that ideal, but it's taking time, and a 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.320 lot of people I think are stuck in the throw 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.839 is not knowing the negative impact that they're having. Yeah. 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.920 I saw a dietitian posts the other day she was 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.440 did acute real and it was what I eat in 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.200 a day, And then it was her going to her 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.880 fridge and she opened it up and she was like, yeah, 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:31.560 she's like just kidding, yeah, nutrition tea, Yes, yeah, she's 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.320 so cute. And she was like, just kidding. You'll never 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.560 see me doing that, And I thought that was such 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.720 a cute way to, you know, show people what she 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.080 eats in a day might not be what you need 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.400 to eat in the day, and if you were to 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.120 mimic someone's meal plan. Just to kind of put a 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.320 bow on this one is I just thought, if I 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.840 do what exactly what this celebrity or this person or 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.560 this friend that I you know, thought had it all 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.520 figured out, if I do exactly what they do, I 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.560 will look like them. And that is just not the case, 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.920 and nor should I want that to be the case. 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.120 I want to be me and I want to be 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:12.280 happy and not stressed out trying to chase somebody else's body. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.520 And this is a conversation Lisa and I have had 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.160 offline when we're not recording two and we want to 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.000 recognize our thin privilege or I don't know how you 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.440 would say it, Lisa, what's the we have. We don't 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.480 discuss it a lot, but if you're listening, right now 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.120 you may know what we look like, and our biggest 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.720 fear is that someone might hear us talk or maybe 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.000 not biggest fear, but something that we've talked about is 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.840 that there might be an eye roll or we don't 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.160 understand or what gives us the right to talk about this? Lisa, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:41.960 can you just speak to that. Yeah, it's something that 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.240 I struggle with a lot, because when I entered the 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:49.040 conversation of food stuff, I didn't realize where I stood 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.200 in relation to the big picture of all of this. 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.880 And Amy and I both occupy thin, white bodies of 0:15:56.120 --> 0:16:00.200 all sorts of privilege, and I could imagine that there's 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.080 plenty of listeners that might think that we don't get it, 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.160 and I'm here to say, you're right, we don't get it. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:07.640 And I don't know what it's like to live in 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.960 a body that I've never lived in before. And I 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.040 don't pretend to know your pain or your struggle or 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.720 that reality, but I do aim to learn more about 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.440 what it's like to exist for you and partake, and 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.120 Amy and I strongly want to create a world where 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.560 we can all exist and all learn to take really 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.320 good care of our health. If that's a priority. To 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:32.360 you without your body size dictating how the world views it, 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.520 if that makes any sense. So, yeah, that's just a 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.160 personal struggle of mine as a registered dietitian, as somebody 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.320 who is passionate about being part of this conversation. I 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.280 recognize where I stand with it, which is I've always 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.720 been in a thin body amy your story might be 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.040 different than mine, but you know, I I hate that 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.160 we are probably missing the mark for some people who 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.200 we could help because they think that we don't get 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.080 it and that we are naive to it. So I 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.560 guess I'm here to say that we don't get it, 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.240 but we're not naive to it, and we still feel 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.280 that we're helping a lot of people and not harming 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.919 those that are here but might not look at me 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.159 and see a similarity physically. Does that make sense? And 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.240 I'm glad we I didn't know we would bring this 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.120 up just now in this episode because yeah, again it's 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.439 something we've talked about as we talk about what do 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.600 we want to do without way, what do we see 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.880 for this podcast and who are we speaking to and 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.960 are they resonating with us? And are we the people 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.440 for that? Should it be you know, other people and 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.760 we're intentional about guests that we're bringing on and other 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.119 contributors to the podcast, and we want you all to 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.000 know that. So just know that you just got a 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.400 little peek into a conversation that Lisa and I are 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.159 continuing to have and what we want this to look like. 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.600 And I guess I'll wrap by sharing one more thing 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.040 that I now know better since we're in the holiday 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.280 season or really preparing for anything. Maybe it's not even holidays. 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.720 You're preparing for an event sometimes if you have a 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.080 part coming up. For me, I work in the entertainment world, 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.360 so I may have work events and festivals and things 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.439 that I'm hosting, or red carpet or something that I 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.199 might be getting for. So this may, depending on what 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.119 you do, fall into whatever category whatever. If you're getting 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.720 ready for something a party, a holiday meal, you know 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.879 you're hosting something big at work and you want to 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:25.120 quote unquote feel your best. I now know that it's 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:29.120 okay to fuel my body just the same all week 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.840 long or all day long leading up to whatever said event. 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.800 I used to think that in order to feel my best, 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:39.800 I had to you know, cleanse or juice or restrict 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.000 and that was going to have me on my A game, 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:50.480 and really I was depleted and tired and cranky and hungry, 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.640 and I wasn't bringing my A game. And even if 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.439 it's like a holiday meal that you're restricting for up 0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:00.000 into that meal, like what are you doing during that day? 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.639 You're missing out on maybe some quality family time because 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.200 your brain is you know, haven't given it the fuel 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.160 that it needs, or you're obsessing about food and thinking 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.080 about all the food that you're about to have, so 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:15.280 you're not engaged in that quality time. And so while 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.240 you know, prepping for a holiday meal or a Christmas 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.560 party or something is very different than prepping for a 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.399 work event, it still is the same thing. You're still restricting. 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.760 I just was like I wasn't giving myself what I needed. 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:32.639 And I now know, being two years into my recovery, 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.680 that I've done work events now. I had one a 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.760 couple of weeks ago in Austin where I rolled into 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.199 that weekend and I was living the same life I 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.080 was living the week before when I had no of 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.359 it to get ready for, or the two weeks before 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.719 when I really was far away from an event and 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.680 I was just just such a piece came over me, 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.879 and there wasn't this stress of also too traveling and 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.800 having to pack all this food because I was so restricted, 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.680 or make sure I had certain foods in my hotel room, 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.800 and and I just was so more breezy and go 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.879 with the flow. And when you're arriving at these Christmas parties, 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.200 sometimes you might be taking your own dishes and you're 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.160 not very go with the flow, or you're freaking out 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.800 of what people are going to be serving. And I 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:15.920 just want you to know, too, there is hope in this, 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.440 and that it is possible to be the same person, 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.280 eating the same things, doing whatever you want to do, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.960 workout wise with your body as you were when you 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.479 weren't preparing for an event. You can show up as 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.640 that same exact person and give yourself food and give 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.560 yourself a workout if that's what you want. Is that 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.040