Speaker 1: I won't let my body out out well everything that
Speaker 1: I'm made dope, won't spend my life trying to change.
Speaker 1: I'm learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong,
Speaker 1: I feel free, I know who every part of me.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful and now will always out way if you
Speaker 1: feel it. With joys in the air, she'll some love
Speaker 1: to the food. I am there. Let's say good day
Speaker 1: and did you and die out? Happy Saturday? Outweigh fam
Speaker 1: Amy and Lisa here with part two of We Know
Speaker 1: Better Now. Now we skipped a week, so thanks for
Speaker 1: being patient and waiting for this episode. But you know,
Speaker 1: we explained to you all that we realized it was
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and we wanted you all to have that meditation
Speaker 1: episode before you entered a lot of time with family,
Speaker 1: friends and food, three big f's that can sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: require some meditation. So we hope you enjoyed that. And
Speaker 1: this is the episode where I'm going to be sharing
Speaker 1: what I know better now. If you missed the episode,
Speaker 1: Releasa shared her as you can go back. Last week's
Speaker 1: was the meditation and then the one before that nove
Speaker 1: episode was Lisa sharing her things, and she ended the
Speaker 1: episode by talking about body checking and bloating, and you
Speaker 1: know that bloating isn't necessarily a bad thing. And it
Speaker 1: made me think about something that I definitely now know
Speaker 1: better is that I don't have to weigh myself. And
Speaker 1: we've talked about that one or wait, weighing yourself a
Speaker 1: lot on the podcast and even on my four Things podcast.
Speaker 1: It's something that I had to completely get rid of.
Speaker 1: But I used to weigh myself sometimes three times a day,
Speaker 1: and I would wonder or freak out if at night
Speaker 1: I weighed more than I did in the morning. I
Speaker 1: have compassion for that girl and where I was, and
Speaker 1: that somehow my body was supposed to, magically, with some
Speaker 1: food and water, be the same weight that it was
Speaker 1: when I woke up in the morning. And I guess
Speaker 1: I would give myself a little wiggle room at times,
Speaker 1: but I would keep a log and I would journal things,
Speaker 1: and I would even measure things. And I just know
Speaker 1: better now that my body is going to fluctuate and
Speaker 1: my body is going to change and there is no
Speaker 1: reason that I need to track it. And I'm in
Speaker 1: a much happier state with my body. And I feel
Speaker 1: like it took me a long time to get there
Speaker 1: because everywhere you look, you know you're being weighed, even
Speaker 1: at the doctor. We don't do that anymore, or I don't.
Speaker 1: I have learned my doctor doesn't necessarily need to know
Speaker 1: my weight, unless, of course they say, actually we we do.
Speaker 1: We've noticed something different and we need to gather that.
Speaker 1: Then I can give them that information. But you have
Speaker 1: the power, even when you're at a doctor's appointment, to
Speaker 1: be like, no, I'm not hopping on the scale right now.
Speaker 1: I don't want that to trigger me. And I had
Speaker 1: to completely just move the scale out of my house.
Speaker 1: Some people be able to weigh themselves and it's not
Speaker 1: triggering for me. That was a behavior where now I
Speaker 1: know better and I am okay. If I my pants
Speaker 1: are tighter one day, then they're not like I have
Speaker 1: a connection of like, oh yeah, I ate food, or
Speaker 1: I did this, or maybe what I consumed had a
Speaker 1: lot of sodium, and I'm like, I breathe through it.
Speaker 1: It's almost like I have such a connection to where
Speaker 1: things make sense and it doesn't freak me out, whereas
Speaker 1: before I would have been so disconnected that I would
Speaker 1: have been freaking out, not taking into account that maybe
Speaker 1: something I ate was high in sodium or something that
Speaker 1: I ate was causing bloating in my stomach because it
Speaker 1: was ruughage and that's what it does, and then it
Speaker 1: would cause all this mental anguish when now I can
Speaker 1: assess what I ate and be like, oh, yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the sodium was seven milligrams on that. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: I might be a little puffy for a day or two,
Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that. But also it might not
Speaker 1: be anything that you did. We have normal weight fluctuations
Speaker 1: with our cycle as amends, with a million different factors
Speaker 1: that we can't even begin to grasp. So it's important
Speaker 1: if there is a weight fluctuation that you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: go right into. Okay, I did this, and I think
Speaker 1: you were. Well, perhaps maybe I was more cruel to
Speaker 1: myself amy than you were. But when I would weigh
Speaker 1: myself obsessively, there was no wiggle room when there were
Speaker 1: decimal point changes, I thought that meant that I need
Speaker 1: to course correct, go harder. And all that did was
Speaker 1: disconnect me from my own needs and my own true health,
Speaker 1: which was me taking good care of me mind, body,
Speaker 1: and spirit. Right, So I think that we all need
Speaker 1: to understand that weight fluctuations are normal on a day
Speaker 1: to day basis as well as over a life cycle.
Speaker 1: You're not going to weigh what you did in high
Speaker 1: school when you're twenty five. You're not going to weigh
Speaker 1: probably what you weighed when you were twenty five when
Speaker 1: you're thirty five, and so forth. And it's important to
Speaker 1: not get too attached or think that you did something.
Speaker 1: When we are human beings in motion, we are not
Speaker 1: static statues. We're not going to just like go around
Speaker 1: just staying exactly the same. We are going to change
Speaker 1: and flow, and oftentimes those changes are to protect us.
Speaker 1: So I love I love that Amy, because I too
Speaker 1: was a scale obsessor and I can now also, I
Speaker 1: don't know where you're at with it now, but it's
Speaker 1: been a long time for me, and I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not personally triggered by it. I don't use it. I
Speaker 1: don't have one in my house, but I could go
Speaker 1: to the doctor and I don't really care what it says,
Speaker 1: even if it's a bit higher than I think where
Speaker 1: I'm usually at. I'm to a point where I don't
Speaker 1: want to do it, and and that's that's what's good
Speaker 1: for me. And I maybe in six months from now
Speaker 1: or a year, because this is still fairly new for me.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, maybe it's been two years since
Speaker 1: I've weighed myself. And when you, I mean, you're talking
Speaker 1: like I've had disordered eating behaviors and been weighing myself
Speaker 1: since I was a young teenager. So I mean two
Speaker 1: years is nothing in the I mean, it is something
Speaker 1: I want to acknowledge. One month, if you're one week,
Speaker 1: if you're on this journey, one day is a may
Speaker 1: zing and you should applaud yourself. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: when I look at how many years I was doing that,
Speaker 1: this is just what feels good for me. And I
Speaker 1: know I don't want to see a number on a scale.
Speaker 1: I don't need to see it, don't want to see
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. And that kind of rolls into another
Speaker 1: thing that I now know better, and that sizes don't matter.
Speaker 1: And every clothing company has different sizes. Even the same
Speaker 1: company might have two genes the same size and you
Speaker 1: put them on and they fit differently, just because you
Speaker 1: know machines, human arrow who knows what it is, but
Speaker 1: not everything is exactly the same. And I used to
Speaker 1: freak out over that. I'm like, this is my size,
Speaker 1: and if I'm not fitting in my size, I will
Speaker 1: not buy from this company because this is my size.
Speaker 1: And there was no wiggle room with that because I
Speaker 1: felt like if I went up any size number then
Speaker 1: mentally I couldn't handle it. I was so attached to
Speaker 1: a size number. And I now know better that numbers
Speaker 1: don't matter on the scale, but then numbers don't matter
Speaker 1: on my tags either. Or I used to hold onto
Speaker 1: clothes that I thought would fit me one day when
Speaker 1: I get there, and they just never did, and they
Speaker 1: just sat in my closet and every time I'd go
Speaker 1: to put them on, they contributed to poor body image
Speaker 1: thoughts for me because I'm still not there yet. I'm
Speaker 1: still not there yet. Or I might have bought the
Speaker 1: pants that were smaller than I was in the moment
Speaker 1: because that's where I want to go. That is doing
Speaker 1: such a disservice to your mind and your body and
Speaker 1: not allowing you to feel comfortable your You should wear
Speaker 1: your clothes. Your clothes should not wear you. You should
Speaker 1: be able to wear clothes that you put on that
Speaker 1: make you feel confident, no matter what size. It says
Speaker 1: and I think it's so important to recognize the variability
Speaker 1: in sizing and not allow that to throw you off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I was able to let go of that, it
Speaker 1: was a game changer because I can now order things
Speaker 1: online and go into a store and buy things that, yes,
Speaker 1: are going to ultimately make me feel good and feel
Speaker 1: more confident and feel cute without you know, thinking about
Speaker 1: the tag on the inside that nobody else is even seeing.
Speaker 1: It's such a mind game with yourself, and you know,
Speaker 1: no one probably sees the number on your scale either
Speaker 1: for that matter, but we just we are our own
Speaker 1: worst critic, Like we're the ones judging ourselves left and right.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like once I was able to
Speaker 1: let that go, it just was such a thing where
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I now know better, and I
Speaker 1: know that I'm not the only one. And Lisa clearly
Speaker 1: had some issues with that too, And I just want
Speaker 1: you to know if you're doing that, it's okay. You're
Speaker 1: not alone, and I hope that you will get to
Speaker 1: a place where the size won't matter. I saw someone
Speaker 1: put on Instagram the other day they were trying on
Speaker 1: jeans at Target. Maybe it was a meme I don't know.
Speaker 1: And she said, I put on a size sixteen pair
Speaker 1: of jeans that I couldn't even zip up. And she's like,
Speaker 1: so then I took him off. This kind of long
Speaker 1: for a meme, but maybe I'm paraphrasing. I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly how it went, but she's like, throw them on
Speaker 1: the round. She goes put on my size ting jeans
Speaker 1: that I wore into Target that day and left. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just to her, it was like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: in the world, Like sizes are so off and they
Speaker 1: don't mean anything right, but we've been trained to believe
Speaker 1: if that number is up, then we have done something wrong.
Speaker 1: And then you're wearing this other pair of pants that
Speaker 1: says a completely different number. It goes to show how
Speaker 1: much we dictate our own reality off of something external
Speaker 1: versus taking inventory of where we are in space and
Speaker 1: time and in our bodies, which rolls into another thing
Speaker 1: that I now know better, and it's that we all
Speaker 1: have different bodies. And just because someone else is doing
Speaker 1: a certain quote unquote meal plan or quote unquote workout routine,
Speaker 1: I can match everything that person is doing, food item
Speaker 1: for food item, workout move for workout move, and my
Speaker 1: body might still look very different than whoever this person
Speaker 1: is that I'm comparing myself to. Do you know who?
Speaker 1: Jesse James Decker is Lisa a little bit. She's country World, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she has a lot of different things going on. She's
Speaker 1: married to a former football player, but they have very
Speaker 1: active lifestyles, like whatever physique that you know, they show
Speaker 1: off in their swimsuits and different things. And I like
Speaker 1: Jesse James Zucker. I don't know her really well, but
Speaker 1: she's come on the Bobby Bones Show before, and I
Speaker 1: think she's really nice. Like I don't have anything bad
Speaker 1: to say at all whatsoever. But she did put up
Speaker 1: oh what I Eat in a day type thing, and
Speaker 1: it ended up getting taken down because probably she got
Speaker 1: so much heat for it. But it was really minimal food,
Speaker 1: you know. It was like a smoothie, and then for
Speaker 1: lunch it was like a piece of toast and maybe
Speaker 1: some more coffee, and then for dinner it was a
Speaker 1: tiny amount of protein with some veggis. And she has
Speaker 1: so many girls and women that follow her, like millions,
Speaker 1: and so I'm sure she got backlash for it, But
Speaker 1: at the time, I was like, oh man, it's a
Speaker 1: bummer that she put that up. I'm glad she took
Speaker 1: it down, but I know girls already saw that, and
Speaker 1: it's too late. And she does have this by society
Speaker 1: standard type body that I'm pretty sure she's just I
Speaker 1: don't want to take away that she works hard, because
Speaker 1: I'm sure she works out and does what she needs
Speaker 1: to do to feel confident in her body in that way.
Speaker 1: But you can't deny sometimes when someone is genetically a
Speaker 1: certain way and then it's portrayed online of like, if
Speaker 1: you do this workout and if you eat this food,
Speaker 1: then you two can look like me, which is again
Speaker 1: what is more acceptable by society standards. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: that we're seeing more diversity out there and we're learning
Speaker 1: because when I the reason why I think that or
Speaker 1: I had to know better, the reason why I thought,
Speaker 1: oh I can end up looking that way is because
Speaker 1: society told me, if you do this, then this is
Speaker 1: the body you will have. And now I feel like
Speaker 1: we're doing a better job moving past that of like, no,
Speaker 1: look at all these beautiful bodies. This is not the
Speaker 1: one way to look. This is not the only way.
Speaker 1: So I'm thankful that young girls are seeing that. But
Speaker 1: when she put up that post, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is this is not the direction we need to go.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad she took it down. Yeah, there's something
Speaker 1: called the thin ideal internalization, and it's the idea that
Speaker 1: there's one way to look and we're psychologically affected and
Speaker 1: we kind of eat up this message and believe that
Speaker 1: if we can achieve this thin ideal, we will achieve
Speaker 1: these positive outcomes health, happiness, confidence, you know, romantic success,
Speaker 1: all of that. And you know, I think that when
Speaker 1: you are in a body that is a thin ideal
Speaker 1: like I have, or maybe I don't know her, but
Speaker 1: like maybe she naturally is like that like you said,
Speaker 1: or maybe she even works hard. But when you live
Speaker 1: in this body, I think it's important you still can
Speaker 1: exist in your body, but it's important to recognize that
Speaker 1: the world has been chasing this ideal and therefore what
Speaker 1: you put out there needs to be an acknowledgement of
Speaker 1: either the body that you occupy or that you will
Speaker 1: have a different outcome based on your own body, and
Speaker 1: that that is beautiful too, and that food is not
Speaker 1: the vehicle to achieve this body because there's not just
Speaker 1: one body to arrive too. So I think we're like
Speaker 1: slowly dismantling this idea. Like you said that there's one
Speaker 1: way to look, and we're in the middle of that
Speaker 1: where a lot of people are kind of like stuck
Speaker 1: in the throws. I think we quickly arrived here, not
Speaker 1: really quickly. The last five years, we kind of just
Speaker 1: sped up the timeline of bs in diet world and
Speaker 1: body image wise, and a lot of people haven't really
Speaker 1: digested all of that information or understood how they could
Speaker 1: possibly contribute negatively, even if they didn't mean to, even
Speaker 1: if they don't have issues with the food or body
Speaker 1: image themselves. But um, with social media, I think it
Speaker 1: is really important for influencers of any size to be
Speaker 1: aware of the impact that you're having on young women
Speaker 1: when this thin ideal exists and not everybody can achieve
Speaker 1: it or that needs to be the ideal. Right, So
Speaker 1: we're dismantling that ideal, but it's taking time, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people I think are stuck in the throw
Speaker 1: is not knowing the negative impact that they're having. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw a dietitian posts the other day she was
Speaker 1: did acute real and it was what I eat in
Speaker 1: a day, And then it was her going to her
Speaker 1: fridge and she opened it up and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like just kidding, yeah, nutrition tea, Yes, yeah, she's
Speaker 1: so cute. And she was like, just kidding. You'll never
Speaker 1: see me doing that, And I thought that was such
Speaker 1: a cute way to, you know, show people what she
Speaker 1: eats in a day might not be what you need
Speaker 1: to eat in the day, and if you were to
Speaker 1: mimic someone's meal plan. Just to kind of put a
Speaker 1: bow on this one is I just thought, if I
Speaker 1: do what exactly what this celebrity or this person or
Speaker 1: this friend that I you know, thought had it all
Speaker 1: figured out, if I do exactly what they do, I
Speaker 1: will look like them. And that is just not the case,
Speaker 1: and nor should I want that to be the case.
Speaker 1: I want to be me and I want to be
Speaker 1: happy and not stressed out trying to chase somebody else's body.
Speaker 1: And this is a conversation Lisa and I have had
Speaker 1: offline when we're not recording two and we want to
Speaker 1: recognize our thin privilege or I don't know how you
Speaker 1: would say it, Lisa, what's the we have. We don't
Speaker 1: discuss it a lot, but if you're listening, right now
Speaker 1: you may know what we look like, and our biggest
Speaker 1: fear is that someone might hear us talk or maybe
Speaker 1: not biggest fear, but something that we've talked about is
Speaker 1: that there might be an eye roll or we don't
Speaker 1: understand or what gives us the right to talk about this? Lisa,
Speaker 1: can you just speak to that. Yeah, it's something that
Speaker 1: I struggle with a lot, because when I entered the
Speaker 1: conversation of food stuff, I didn't realize where I stood
Speaker 1: in relation to the big picture of all of this.
Speaker 1: And Amy and I both occupy thin, white bodies of
Speaker 1: all sorts of privilege, and I could imagine that there's
Speaker 1: plenty of listeners that might think that we don't get it,
Speaker 1: and I'm here to say, you're right, we don't get it.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what it's like to live in
Speaker 1: a body that I've never lived in before. And I
Speaker 1: don't pretend to know your pain or your struggle or
Speaker 1: that reality, but I do aim to learn more about
Speaker 1: what it's like to exist for you and partake, and
Speaker 1: Amy and I strongly want to create a world where
Speaker 1: we can all exist and all learn to take really
Speaker 1: good care of our health. If that's a priority. To
Speaker 1: you without your body size dictating how the world views it,
Speaker 1: if that makes any sense. So, yeah, that's just a
Speaker 1: personal struggle of mine as a registered dietitian, as somebody
Speaker 1: who is passionate about being part of this conversation. I
Speaker 1: recognize where I stand with it, which is I've always
Speaker 1: been in a thin body amy your story might be
Speaker 1: different than mine, but you know, I I hate that
Speaker 1: we are probably missing the mark for some people who
Speaker 1: we could help because they think that we don't get
Speaker 1: it and that we are naive to it. So I
Speaker 1: guess I'm here to say that we don't get it,
Speaker 1: but we're not naive to it, and we still feel
Speaker 1: that we're helping a lot of people and not harming
Speaker 1: those that are here but might not look at me
Speaker 1: and see a similarity physically. Does that make sense? And
Speaker 1: I'm glad we I didn't know we would bring this
Speaker 1: up just now in this episode because yeah, again it's
Speaker 1: something we've talked about as we talk about what do
Speaker 1: we want to do without way, what do we see
Speaker 1: for this podcast and who are we speaking to and
Speaker 1: are they resonating with us? And are we the people
Speaker 1: for that? Should it be you know, other people and
Speaker 1: we're intentional about guests that we're bringing on and other
Speaker 1: contributors to the podcast, and we want you all to
Speaker 1: know that. So just know that you just got a
Speaker 1: little peek into a conversation that Lisa and I are
Speaker 1: continuing to have and what we want this to look like.
Speaker 1: And I guess I'll wrap by sharing one more thing
Speaker 1: that I now know better since we're in the holiday
Speaker 1: season or really preparing for anything. Maybe it's not even holidays.
Speaker 1: You're preparing for an event sometimes if you have a
Speaker 1: part coming up. For me, I work in the entertainment world,
Speaker 1: so I may have work events and festivals and things
Speaker 1: that I'm hosting, or red carpet or something that I
Speaker 1: might be getting for. So this may, depending on what
Speaker 1: you do, fall into whatever category whatever. If you're getting
Speaker 1: ready for something a party, a holiday meal, you know
Speaker 1: you're hosting something big at work and you want to
Speaker 1: quote unquote feel your best. I now know that it's
Speaker 1: okay to fuel my body just the same all week
Speaker 1: long or all day long leading up to whatever said event.
Speaker 1: I used to think that in order to feel my best,
Speaker 1: I had to you know, cleanse or juice or restrict
Speaker 1: and that was going to have me on my A game,
Speaker 1: and really I was depleted and tired and cranky and hungry,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't bringing my A game. And even if
Speaker 1: it's like a holiday meal that you're restricting for up
Speaker 1: into that meal, like what are you doing during that day?
Speaker 1: You're missing out on maybe some quality family time because
Speaker 1: your brain is you know, haven't given it the fuel
Speaker 1: that it needs, or you're obsessing about food and thinking
Speaker 1: about all the food that you're about to have, so
Speaker 1: you're not engaged in that quality time. And so while
Speaker 1: you know, prepping for a holiday meal or a Christmas
Speaker 1: party or something is very different than prepping for a
Speaker 1: work event, it still is the same thing. You're still restricting.
Speaker 1: I just was like I wasn't giving myself what I needed.
Speaker 1: And I now know, being two years into my recovery,
Speaker 1: that I've done work events now. I had one a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago in Austin where I rolled into
Speaker 1: that weekend and I was living the same life I
Speaker 1: was living the week before when I had no of
Speaker 1: it to get ready for, or the two weeks before
Speaker 1: when I really was far away from an event and
Speaker 1: I was just just such a piece came over me,
Speaker 1: and there wasn't this stress of also too traveling and
Speaker 1: having to pack all this food because I was so restricted,
Speaker 1: or make sure I had certain foods in my hotel room,
Speaker 1: and and I just was so more breezy and go
Speaker 1: with the flow. And when you're arriving at these Christmas parties,
Speaker 1: sometimes you might be taking your own dishes and you're
Speaker 1: not very go with the flow, or you're freaking out
Speaker 1: of what people are going to be serving. And I
Speaker 1: just want you to know, too, there is hope in this,
Speaker 1: and that it is possible to be the same person,
Speaker 1: eating the same things, doing whatever you want to do,
Speaker 1: workout wise with your body as you were when you
Speaker 1: weren't preparing for an event. You can show up as
Speaker 1: that same exact person and give yourself food and give
Speaker 1: yourself a workout if that's what you want. Is that
Speaker 1: making sense, Lisa, Yes, that makes a ton of sense.
Speaker 1: Your life is just the same and there's no pedestal
Speaker 1: because of an event, and therefore you take good care
Speaker 1: of your body every single day, whether that's moving it
Speaker 1: not moving it, drinking the green juice, not drinking the
Speaker 1: green juice. And there's freedom in that because you're flowing
Speaker 1: through life, not resisting and fighting it every step of
Speaker 1: the way. I will say a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: if you would have been like, hey, you're going to
Speaker 1: go out to dinner and not have control over what
Speaker 1: is inside your food, and then there's going to be
Speaker 1: cake served because you're celebrating somebody, and then you have
Speaker 1: to get into address the next day for work event,
Speaker 1: I probably would have not gone to that dinner. I
Speaker 1: would have been like, you know what, I can't put
Speaker 1: myself in that situation because I have a big work
Speaker 1: event tomorrow and I have a dress put on and
Speaker 1: I have to do this and I need to be
Speaker 1: on So I would have stayed home and missed out
Speaker 1: on something. And this year I was able to go
Speaker 1: do that right before, I was able to celebrate other people,
Speaker 1: be with friends, eat out, have cake and guess what
Speaker 1: I did the event and my life went on. And
Speaker 1: I just share that as encouragement and hope that you
Speaker 1: two will be able to start rolling through life like that.
Speaker 1: And it does take work. I'm not saying I just
Speaker 1: was like made a decision one day. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is how I'm going to live. And so that's
Speaker 1: why I'm thankful for Lisa and even courses like her
Speaker 1: Fork the Noise program, Brain over Bingees. Something that I
Speaker 1: mentioned that helped me might not be for you, but
Speaker 1: just that was something that really helped me rewire my brain.
Speaker 1: And I'm excited did to announce that Hungerfulness is going
Speaker 1: to return again in two I'm ending my maternity leave
Speaker 1: in the next few weeks and gonna kind of step
Speaker 1: into what's happening next, so I'll put the link below
Speaker 1: for anybody who's interested in the wait list. Um, I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna keep this kind of a little like
Speaker 1: d L maybe only waitlist only I don't know yet
Speaker 1: as I kind of ease back into work. I'm so
Speaker 1: proud of this program and I'm excited to be launching
Speaker 1: it again. Oh yeah, okay, and then what's the name
Speaker 1: of it again? For the Noise Hungerfulness, So I'll put
Speaker 1: the link below or fork the Noise dot com and
Speaker 1: you can find it so it'll be in the show notes,
Speaker 1: so definitely check that out. I can't recommend Lisa's programs enough.
Speaker 1: She puts so much effort and heart and soul and
Speaker 1: all the things into this stuff, and she truly does care.
Speaker 1: So I'm proud of you, Lisa. I'm glad that you're
Speaker 1: my partner here on outweigh and yeah, we hope you'll
Speaker 1: have a great rest of the day and we will
Speaker 1: see you all next Saturday. Four