Speaker 1: Wine down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast.
Speaker 1: I think one of the coolest things is leaving therapy
Speaker 1: and then seeing you. I was surprised she was like
Speaker 1: out there with you today. Well, she's so cute because
Speaker 1: I think now that like she knows that, like we're
Speaker 1: comfortable knowing that we share her She's like, I think
Speaker 1: you want to go out this. She's like, let's just
Speaker 1: see who's in the waiting room, and then you and
Speaker 1: then you weren't there. So I was like, Amy, you
Speaker 1: have to see these videos. I was like, I'm so
Speaker 1: sore because I started dance with herself. So I was
Speaker 1: showing her the videos because you know, She's just like,
Speaker 1: it's so great to see you know, dance bring you
Speaker 1: so much to joy. And I'm like, well, I'm in
Speaker 1: a lot of pain right now actually, but I'm so
Speaker 1: pumped because it UM. I didn't know that they were
Speaker 1: announcing it that day that so I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, okay, but no, I am doing a movie.
Speaker 1: Me and Mario Lopez are co executive executive producing and
Speaker 1: starring in um untitled Mario Janna movie. But we we
Speaker 1: dance in it. So it's been so fun to learn
Speaker 1: these dances and um, yeah, when we all decide on
Speaker 1: a title and how does that work? Well, there was
Speaker 1: a title, but then like they have to go back
Speaker 1: because then that they didn't like the title. So now
Speaker 1: it's just we're trying to figure it out right now.
Speaker 1: So I actually had a title call yesterday. Yeah I know,
Speaker 1: but Katherine went came to the studio to watch you dance.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I mean, you're good, um for not
Speaker 1: being a dancer. Thanks, You're very good at dance. That's
Speaker 1: like those like someone else just gave me a really
Speaker 1: great backhanded compliment the other day. Was that what mine was?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, no, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's one of those I can't remember it. Oh man,
Speaker 1: oh oh, I remember it was about dancing. The choreographer.
Speaker 1: He goes, so I remember watching your Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Star stuff, and he goes, We're just going to focus
Speaker 1: on your your top half because and I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh okay. It was like so kind of but then
Speaker 1: I remember like Glad yelling at me, be like a
Speaker 1: stronger legs, and I'm like I can't. So I'm just like, yep,
Speaker 1: focus just on my you have strong legs. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but they like they're like Bambi when I dance. Okay,
Speaker 1: And I've also learned I can't to hip hop, so
Speaker 1: there's that really. Oh and my boyfriend also came to
Speaker 1: the studio and he came during the hip hop stuff
Speaker 1: and I kept being like, for some reason, the hip
Speaker 1: stop move. But he is here, So I feel like,
Speaker 1: what you're staring at him? What he done? Done? Done?
Speaker 1: Should we have him? Come on? Ian, he's so nervous.
Speaker 1: I love it. Come on, you don't have to. That's
Speaker 1: a thing like I'm not am I forcing you to
Speaker 1: do this? Okay, because it's clear, make sure. But he
Speaker 1: knows she's not forcing it. I'm not forcing him to
Speaker 1: do this, but he's gonna come stary in the middle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, you got this? Okay, Hey, everyone welcome. I
Speaker 1: chinnelli on wine down nervous. Yeah, he got it. He's
Speaker 1: this is are you bringing back you? Like? I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm watching me podcasting. It's it's uncomfortable, I understand. Um,
Speaker 1: So everyone wants to know the gymnastics story. So do
Speaker 1: you want to give the gymnastic story? Um? The gymnastic
Speaker 1: story before that? Okay? Um, when we met at Urban Air.
Speaker 1: I think you asked me if I knew you? Well actually,
Speaker 1: and we gotta go back back, so we'll tell that story.
Speaker 1: Tell the story. How much of the gymnastics am I telling?
Speaker 1: Like we seeing me before you even saw me at
Speaker 1: Urban Air? Okay, okay? Trying to follow it to So
Speaker 1: I saw a hot mom, very aggravated with her child.
Speaker 1: Two children, but one was sitting on the floor trying
Speaker 1: to tie her shoes or put her shoes on, and
Speaker 1: and the hot mom was just not having it. Hot
Speaker 1: mom turned out to be Jane. So then a few
Speaker 1: days later, then go ahead, about a week later, Um,
Speaker 1: we had been introduced at Urban Air. So I walked
Speaker 1: into Urban Air. I brought my daughter to a mutual
Speaker 1: friends kid's birthday party, and across the room, I see
Speaker 1: the hot mom who was aggravated with her child looked
Speaker 1: even hotter. So nobody dresses up or wears leather jackets
Speaker 1: doing a kid's birthday party. It was a Halloween thing,
Speaker 1: and I wore a really cute like did you know
Speaker 1: it was? I was comping cozy but it was like
Speaker 1: I wore this cute little like spider jump suit and
Speaker 1: then I was like wow, this isn't cute the little
Speaker 1: low jacket. So I did, and I was in jeans
Speaker 1: and a T shirt from the gym. So but then
Speaker 1: it's okay. So then that was the hot mom and
Speaker 1: then um, we're going to have Sean and Andrew on
Speaker 1: so they can tell the rest of that story. But
Speaker 1: do you have any questions for Ian because Mark's not here?
Speaker 1: So this is good. It's a good like intern having Mark. No,
Speaker 1: we don't need Mark on here, but not for the
Speaker 1: first one. I don't think I can do. Okay, here's
Speaker 1: something that before Sean and Andrew pop on which I
Speaker 1: was dealing with something the other day. And the two
Speaker 1: plus two things, Yeah, explain that. What do you what
Speaker 1: do you want to explain? Like of rationale behind the
Speaker 1: two plass two uh two plus teak was five. It's
Speaker 1: basically like it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, like don't
Speaker 1: sweaterver things. Don't get worked up about things. If somebody
Speaker 1: tells you to plus to his five, fine, believe him,
Speaker 1: move on. It does not matter what they say. How
Speaker 1: you respond to people's on you, and so if you
Speaker 1: want to argue with them, you can argue them all
Speaker 1: day long. If they tell you Toplos to his five. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're right, move on to the next thing. Hard. No,
Speaker 1: it's so hard because I was like, tell it because
Speaker 1: we were I was dealing with the situation could be
Speaker 1: a co parenting situation and it could be. And he
Speaker 1: was just like, what's two plus two? And I said four?
Speaker 1: Hees no, it's not, it's five. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not, it's four, jeez. And he's like, and he's
Speaker 1: the math guy, like, you're like super smart at math.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, but it's He's like, why
Speaker 1: are you even You're wasting your time. Yeah, it's so hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's so good. Good. Like now, I'm always
Speaker 1: like especially with it's like with the kids, with like
Speaker 1: my act, it's like two plass too, it's five because
Speaker 1: it just doesn't matter. Why fight it? I remember it? Um, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad Riley. I was going to tell you
Speaker 1: that it's not Drew. I mean, it's not Dave. But um,
Speaker 1: it's it's fine. I know. I was just like, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna let her go with this one. Um, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break and then we're gonna get
Speaker 1: Sean and Andrew on and we'll tell the rest of
Speaker 1: the story. We're back. So we have Sean and Andrew on,
Speaker 1: so excited. Um, First of all, I just because I
Speaker 1: remember when I was on it was just your podcast
Speaker 1: at the time, right Andrew? And then what was it
Speaker 1: called again? Direct? Direct? We directed? I'm sorry, but I'm
Speaker 1: so a couple of things is ingrained in my brain now.
Speaker 1: So but I came on your show, and I remember
Speaker 1: you were like trying to convince Sean to have a podcast, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I didn't. I failed that. So I just started
Speaker 1: one anyway and said, hey, you have a podcast now, Sean,
Speaker 1: and he started five days after I gave birth to Drew.
Speaker 1: I was pissed. You were like, we need to record
Speaker 1: a podcast today. So you did it without her permission
Speaker 1: for real? Yeah? Yeah, well I will. I'll give this caveat.
Speaker 1: I had agreed to doing a podcast. I had not
Speaker 1: agreed to doing a podcast. Then, yeah, that's yeah, so
Speaker 1: he took some liberties there. Why that why that timing?
Speaker 1: Did you just like not think because this is like
Speaker 1: that's such a man thing to do, like not to
Speaker 1: recognize like the healing of like having a baby, and
Speaker 1: there's no better time than to start right now exactly.
Speaker 1: I got you freaking my guy gets it. But I
Speaker 1: also agree to there's there's not a lot of logic
Speaker 1: behind it. Was just, hey, this feels right. We're going
Speaker 1: with the way Andrew operates is he's like, I have
Speaker 1: an idea, it's started today, and then I literally chase him.
Speaker 1: I'm like the person chasing him in business, just trying
Speaker 1: to like make it look good. I mean I kind
Speaker 1: of agree with that because that's kind of my mentality
Speaker 1: to where it's like, you know, I think we're definitely
Speaker 1: dreamers and we want to do it now. Like why
Speaker 1: would you guys have always connected on this? You guys
Speaker 1: just are like serial starters, which we could never finish
Speaker 1: anything perfectionist. But um, well, so this is Ian's first
Speaker 1: time being on wind down and he needs a little
Speaker 1: I think he needs podcast period, holding holding a mic.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to teach him to like, you know,
Speaker 1: first podcast, first podcast. It only makes sense. I was
Speaker 1: hoping for this, Yeah, just for you guys, because you
Speaker 1: guys are the reason why we're together. Yes, so technically Andrew,
Speaker 1: that was that was all Andrew, because he's doing that.
Speaker 1: Came over to me and he's like, what do you
Speaker 1: think about in Janet? I gave Sean the nod I
Speaker 1: like pointed about to you, and then I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I know. And then Andrew comes running over
Speaker 1: to me and he's like, Okay, so there's this guy
Speaker 1: here that I want you to meet, and he's over
Speaker 1: there in the orange shirt and just so casually I
Speaker 1: had like stared at him, you know, the last thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: but I was and then um, I was just like,
Speaker 1: well do you Is he interested in me? And like
Speaker 1: this is such a typical guy thing, but you were
Speaker 1: like I don't know. And I'm like, why didn't you
Speaker 1: go to him first? Because now you're going to go
Speaker 1: to him and what if he's like has a girlfriend
Speaker 1: or not interested or like you know, I was Internet,
Speaker 1: are done his due diligence there. I feel like you
Speaker 1: and you and ud knew each other well enough, like
Speaker 1: Andrew was aware you didn't have a girl. Also fun
Speaker 1: story and probably killed me later for this. I remember
Speaker 1: the first time Andrew met you Ian and he came home,
Speaker 1: He's like, I have a man crush. It's this guy Ian.
Speaker 1: And then every Saturday he's like I would ask him
Speaker 1: like where are you going? Like the Navy seal everyone
Speaker 1: and you and I vibe on the dreaming perspective things.
Speaker 1: But Ian and I vibe because I showed up and
Speaker 1: here I thought that I was like a pretty good
Speaker 1: athlete in pretty good shape, and then I'm Ian, who's
Speaker 1: quite literally at least twice as fit and athletic as
Speaker 1: I am. But he also like puts. So you know,
Speaker 1: I've been around natural talent athletes and that's one thing
Speaker 1: Ian has that but he also works super hard, and
Speaker 1: so I just immediately had a high level respect for Ian,
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, this is a dude
Speaker 1: that I want to I was immediately attractive. I'm still
Speaker 1: trying to appreciate that. No, I mean you guys, you
Speaker 1: guys have your datter days on Saturdays. I feel like
Speaker 1: we need to do something. Sean pays that, like they're
Speaker 1: with wine Wednesdays. Absolutely, can it involve wine. Though we're
Speaker 1: now working out, we're good, Like we're yeah, we can
Speaker 1: work out and have wine on Wednesdays. There we go.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what would a tally count look
Speaker 1: like for the number of bottles of wine we've drank
Speaker 1: with Jannah. I think it's over tin. What do you
Speaker 1: think I've done that? I've done that in a week.
Speaker 1: So we went through like justly remember going home and
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel terrible. That was a fun night.
Speaker 1: What then we were both doing handstands in your kitchen?
Speaker 1: So did you do that? We still need to compete,
Speaker 1: by the way, Yes, actually those today? That scares me.
Speaker 1: What What did you say about the wine? You've never
Speaker 1: had so much? What when we first started dating, I
Speaker 1: had never had so much wine and salads of my
Speaker 1: entire life salads, Yeah, you have the key wine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a salad. You feel good about drinking lots of
Speaker 1: so Okay, a couple of things I did there? Um,
Speaker 1: what has been the hardest part working together on this podcast?
Speaker 1: Hold on? What? We can't just talk about Ian and
Speaker 1: not have Ian talk about himself. It's not your interview,
Speaker 1: but we're going to get there later. Right now, we're interviewing, y'all. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got I've got plenty. You can interview Ian if
Speaker 1: you want for the last part of this segment. You
Speaker 1: can then interview the in. Okay, there we go, But
Speaker 1: right now it's having a couple of things. Uh, I
Speaker 1: feel like working together. It was difficult at first. It
Speaker 1: still is difficult, but we've gotten so much practice at it,
Speaker 1: so many reps that the most difficult things we've figured
Speaker 1: out how to navigate or communicate around. So I think
Speaker 1: it's getting better. But I think it's a huge honor, honestly,
Speaker 1: to like get to know my wife and in like
Speaker 1: a unique way that typically marriages don't. Like you don't
Speaker 1: usually spend all day every day with your partner and
Speaker 1: you don't really see how they are using their gifts
Speaker 1: and talents on a day day basis. But with Sean,
Speaker 1: I do. And yes, there's like annoyances that come with
Speaker 1: working with your spouse, but at the end of the
Speaker 1: day your opinionated. Yeah, but and you make things difficult.
Speaker 1: But but do you think the difficult nos or the
Speaker 1: difficulty and that like what she does is actually makes
Speaker 1: it better? Yeah, Hunter, Yeah, it would be a train
Speaker 1: wreck over here, but it still makes it difficult. May
Speaker 1: see good about my side work. I would also add
Speaker 1: something that we're still working on we have a really
Speaker 1: hard time with. I'd say it's like the one issue
Speaker 1: that we um probably will forever work on, just because
Speaker 1: we both love to work so much is differentiating husband
Speaker 1: and wife and then like coworkers. So it's hard like
Speaker 1: if we're eating dinner at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: that's usually when we're supposed to be husband and wife.
Speaker 1: But if I had to ask him like a coworker
Speaker 1: question or vice versa, it's hard to know who I'm getting.
Speaker 1: So if he if he makes a critique, is it
Speaker 1: like is this my is this my business partner critiquing
Speaker 1: a business partner, or is this husband critiquing wife? Like
Speaker 1: it's those lines get very very blurred and trying to
Speaker 1: like distinguish what times and what parts of the day
Speaker 1: we get either. I think it's for us been the
Speaker 1: hardest part. But I think I'll ask us to do
Speaker 1: you do you think, um, when you do have that disagreement,
Speaker 1: is it hard? Because I know for me, like when
Speaker 1: I worked with my like it was when we were
Speaker 1: in it, it was hard to work, you know, and
Speaker 1: be present and be authentic. Is it like, how do
Speaker 1: you guys like kind of snap out of it or
Speaker 1: is it just like are you able to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're working, like let's drop the emotion or whatever. Oh
Speaker 1: like when we're in an argument. Yeah, yeah, no, that's
Speaker 1: definitely the case. It's like we have to resolve like
Speaker 1: personal stuff because we're like we're filming stuff this you
Speaker 1: can't jump on a podcast and be pissed at each
Speaker 1: other and then try to ask questions. And you know,
Speaker 1: we've had it happened a few times where like we
Speaker 1: aren't able to resolve it before we're supposed to do something,
Speaker 1: and we're just like, we can't fake this and it's
Speaker 1: not healthy to fake it. So we're just like we're done.
Speaker 1: We're not going to do it today. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: something that I wish I would have done because man,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, because I'm like, then people here and
Speaker 1: they're like, clearly they were at each other's that day,
Speaker 1: you know, because you'll try to just keep going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes it worse because if you start getting used
Speaker 1: to like faking that on camera. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think that that just plays into like the relationship when
Speaker 1: you're off camera. But one thing is for sure, Janna,
Speaker 1: you know, she sometimes she gets the business partner, sometimes
Speaker 1: she gets the husband. But you can bet at the
Speaker 1: end of the night she gets Rico Suave. Yeah, non
Speaker 1: serious answer was coming out of that. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know what I think is. I mean, obviously you guys
Speaker 1: enjoy working together. You guys have found your your thing
Speaker 1: and you know you've what's what are you guys gonna
Speaker 1: be working on a book next? Hm? I'm still learning
Speaker 1: how to read. So we have actually talked about doing
Speaker 1: a book, but we have such a hard time even
Speaker 1: like on our show of we want to make sure
Speaker 1: we draw the line in the sand that we are
Speaker 1: never trying to teach anything because we don't know it.
Speaker 1: We truly don't. We don't know anything about like this
Speaker 1: is how you should do marriage or this is how
Speaker 1: you should do relationship. So trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to write a book where we're not trying to teach something, well,
Speaker 1: that kind of goes into my next thing is what
Speaker 1: is one thing that you guys, like, what is it
Speaker 1: that you're wanting to offer other couples? Like is there
Speaker 1: something where it's like this has worked really well for
Speaker 1: us and you want people to know that, or do
Speaker 1: you just want people to like see fun and light,
Speaker 1: which they'd see, but also like is there something where
Speaker 1: you're like because we all learned something, yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 1: You were not therapists, but we're still, is there something
Speaker 1: that you guys do really well together that would be
Speaker 1: helpful for other couples? Um? Well, I view all content
Speaker 1: on the range of like education on one in entertainment
Speaker 1: on the other. We definitely try to keep things more
Speaker 1: light and enjoyable and on the entertainment side of things. Um.
Speaker 1: But I would say our goal with like what we're
Speaker 1: trying to offer is really just be a starting point
Speaker 1: for conversations uh the other couples can have. So like
Speaker 1: we gotta we went on this tour, this like sixth
Speaker 1: day tour, um, which is so fun, like get to
Speaker 1: meet people, but hearing the stories of how they would
Speaker 1: listen to a podcast episode and they had been in
Speaker 1: an argument and then we mentioned something that like touched
Speaker 1: the nerve or or like sparked a laugh and then
Speaker 1: snap them out of that because you know, sometimes we
Speaker 1: need an argument. Alls you need is like a third
Speaker 1: party perspective to get you out of that rut. So
Speaker 1: if we could be that and and provide that for people,
Speaker 1: then I would count that as a huge one. I
Speaker 1: think we're also slightly like blindly going into it and
Speaker 1: navigating it. Um. We started the show because we got
Speaker 1: really annoyed with the perfection that press tries to portray
Speaker 1: relationships as and we got really tired of then painting
Speaker 1: this picture that if you don't do your relationship a
Speaker 1: certain way, it's not going to work. And we believe
Speaker 1: that every single relationship is different and can overcome anything,
Speaker 1: like if that relationship like once, like it's just different.
Speaker 1: Every relationship is to friends, and I think for us,
Speaker 1: we just have had a really good time learning how
Speaker 1: each individual relationship works. And we've just learned a lot
Speaker 1: from other people that has like constantly helped our relationship.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have boundaries and like what you share
Speaker 1: and what you don't share? Yes, yeah, kind of. I
Speaker 1: think we don't talk about anything that we haven't already
Speaker 1: worked through, So like we can't be working through something
Speaker 1: live on a show. It has to be resolved and
Speaker 1: we have to be like in a good space, and
Speaker 1: then we don't. We don't get like raunchy, like sexual
Speaker 1: that stuff always kind of like you don't really like
Speaker 1: talking about that, do you? Like? In general, I'll talk
Speaker 1: about it with friends and stuff. I don't care as
Speaker 1: far as like I feel like to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: you can only share so much your life before your
Speaker 1: life becomes the world and not your own up. And
Speaker 1: like we try to keep at least that to ourselves. Sure,
Speaker 1: I think we would have way less boundaries if it
Speaker 1: wasn't for Sean. And I'm thankful for Sean to set
Speaker 1: the boundaries. But like for me, anything that happens, I
Speaker 1: like view it as part of the plot. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is an unfolding. I mean again, but also I've
Speaker 1: learned that that is can be harmful to a relationship,
Speaker 1: having that much detail out because it is you were more,
Speaker 1: you're you're picked apart more, you have more eyes to
Speaker 1: pick apart things because once you say it, you put
Speaker 1: it out there, you can't really get it back. But
Speaker 1: but you could probably test to this, tell me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. It's also you have more loyalty, Like there there,
Speaker 1: you definitely open yourself up. But that's the whole thing
Speaker 1: with being vulnerable right where it's like, yeah, you can
Speaker 1: get crushed, but you can also be supported in a
Speaker 1: way that you otherwise couldn't be. Right. No, very very yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you have super loyal fans. Yeah they're very loyal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very very very loyal for sure. But again the people
Speaker 1: that don't know me or don't know certain things, like
Speaker 1: they just see like a headline. Then that gets picked
Speaker 1: apart because I was too open or to this or whatever,
Speaker 1: or I misspoke or I you know, said, I mean
Speaker 1: there are some things that were spoken about last podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I should have thought about before I spoke.
Speaker 1: I use my words a little differently, you know. So
Speaker 1: I think that can be. It's just hard when you
Speaker 1: put things out there. Yes, But I also think that's
Speaker 1: super super refreshing because people like to play this, people
Speaker 1: like to believe in act like we're all perfect and
Speaker 1: we should know exactly what we're saying when we say it,
Speaker 1: and we should know everything in the world and how
Speaker 1: to be politically correct and how to make everybody happy
Speaker 1: and when we're all human and we don't. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's really refreshing and speak your mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I have a question for you, Um, is it
Speaker 1: is it worrisome to you that I am so open um?
Speaker 1: Not exactly and I knew that kind of getting involved
Speaker 1: in this, but you haven't really shared too much about it, right,
Speaker 1: Like is there something where you're like, hey, like this
Speaker 1: isn't like off boundaries or like, don't talk about our
Speaker 1: relationship or because I mean I haven't. I haven't really,
Speaker 1: I've been pretty like, um, I don't know I've ever
Speaker 1: been involved. I don't think about that now all of
Speaker 1: them tonight should I? But I mean I said I
Speaker 1: was going to be more private in this relationship when
Speaker 1: it came to issues or things that came up because again,
Speaker 1: like I saw the but again, I do also believe
Speaker 1: that people have issues in every relationship. You know, like
Speaker 1: just like you guys. You guys didn't deal with the
Speaker 1: O our neighbors stuff for our stuff, but hey, you
Speaker 1: have your own stuff, and it's refreshing to hear that
Speaker 1: you guys fight. It is I love you. They're so
Speaker 1: beautiful and happy and like it's it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of makes me feel better. Well, I think
Speaker 1: the majority of people like to hear that. But you're
Speaker 1: always going to have those those critics. You're always going
Speaker 1: to have those people that are like, you didn't do
Speaker 1: it perfect, and I'm going to attack you because you
Speaker 1: didn't do it the way I think you should have.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that that should hold you back either.
Speaker 1: I've even shared that too before, where One of the
Speaker 1: reasons why I was really excited about this is kind
Speaker 1: of like what you just said, Janna Um. When we
Speaker 1: got engaged, I asked one of my close friends here
Speaker 1: in Nashville. I was like, Okay, what do I need
Speaker 1: to like prepare for with marriage? What arguments, like, what transition,
Speaker 1: what hardships? And she was like, oh, me and my
Speaker 1: husband have never fought. And I was like, Okay, that
Speaker 1: makes me feel terrible because like we had argued. And
Speaker 1: I think what's refreshing is like having all of these
Speaker 1: conversations with people who have been together for however many
Speaker 1: years or overcome whatever, or gone through separation happily or
Speaker 1: married like everything. It's just relatable and it makes you
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, I've got a that I can use
Speaker 1: to get through it. I guess I'm just saying out
Speaker 1: loud though, because I do think there there's a stipulation
Speaker 1: in my mind of like it's almost like gossiping about
Speaker 1: yourself can happen where you can just unfiltered share of things, right,
Speaker 1: And we've done that in the past on social media
Speaker 1: and we've learned from it. And like I think sending
Speaker 1: whatever issue or conflict or problem you're having through an
Speaker 1: initial like filter of you're dealing with it can be
Speaker 1: really helpful and all because you want to talk about
Speaker 1: issues with friends with the hopes of resolving them or
Speaker 1: learning something new or you know, with the positive outcome
Speaker 1: in mind, not with like the echo chamber of oh,
Speaker 1: you know what, Sean said this to me and I'm
Speaker 1: talking to my friend about it and he's like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe she did that to you, and she sucks
Speaker 1: like it should never be And so you don't want
Speaker 1: to You don't want to create that in your life.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Does that make sense? Makes sense? Ye?
Speaker 1: Have have? Yeah, how is dating a celeb been for you?
Speaker 1: It's been different. It's a it's been really good. But
Speaker 1: I don't really get too caught up in the limelight
Speaker 1: of stuff. Like every now and then she's been like, hey,
Speaker 1: we were on this, and I'm like, okay, I just
Speaker 1: don't I don't see it. I don't look it up.
Speaker 1: I don't you know I met every once in a a
Speaker 1: while she's just like, oh, I just have like the
Speaker 1: top song in the world for like four days. I
Speaker 1: will I will say that was pretty cool. It was
Speaker 1: actually really cool. So and she downplayed it way too much,
Speaker 1: and she tries to, you know, make my things that
Speaker 1: I do way more important than what she's doing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you have the best song, the number one song and everything,
Speaker 1: and it's like every couple of hours, I would look
Speaker 1: it up again and make sure that the time kind
Speaker 1: of scrolled through to make sure that it was updated,
Speaker 1: and then I would take a screenshot and send it
Speaker 1: to her and like, well, it'll it'll be different by
Speaker 1: you know, tonight, or be different by tomorrow morning. Well,
Speaker 1: I like up three five in the morning, it's still there,
Speaker 1: so like, well, it didn't change. And so it went
Speaker 1: on for a couple of days, but it was it
Speaker 1: was very cool to see that. Um, that was sweet
Speaker 1: of you. Otherwise I want to say I would say
Speaker 1: one thing. Okay, it's just like, oh my gosh. So
Speaker 1: I have another friend in a very similar position to you, Jianna,
Speaker 1: and you both are kind of going through a very
Speaker 1: similar jurney at the same exact time. And I almost
Speaker 1: like cry the other day watching her journey because her
Speaker 1: new boyfriend is like celebrating her for the first time
Speaker 1: and she's never had that. And then watching you and
Speaker 1: ian like you're being celebrated and you're being allowed to
Speaker 1: be who you are, and I think it's it's just
Speaker 1: really really sweet and really cool. You have the number
Speaker 1: one song in the world. Are you kidding me? Don't
Speaker 1: don't play that had but um, you know, it was sweet.
Speaker 1: And when I told him, I was like, never like,
Speaker 1: has anyone like anyone that I was ever with like
Speaker 1: sent you know, like even my acts, like I never
Speaker 1: like got celebrated like when things were like that. So
Speaker 1: I always downplayed it because I'm like, oh, it must
Speaker 1: not be a big deal, you know. So it's it's
Speaker 1: a huge deal to have the number one so okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was very it was very sweet,
Speaker 1: and I, you know, I really do appreciate it because
Speaker 1: you know, he need's like I want to celebrate it
Speaker 1: with you, and I'm like, I just again because I have,
Speaker 1: I do downplay it because it wasn't I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't important or celebrating. Have you heard of Beyonce
Speaker 1: in common? You guys are on the same level. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: but no, actually you're not. You're higher than beyond everybody.
Speaker 1: But I think he's done. I think He've done a
Speaker 1: good job though handling things. And I mean because people
Speaker 1: were calling him a trainer, He's like he's a Navy
Speaker 1: seal like people, it's like a poor guy was labeled
Speaker 1: as a trainer. That a trainer, not that a trainer
Speaker 1: isn't a problem, but it's a Instagram had like me
Speaker 1: at the gym, like andrewing, like, why do I detail
Speaker 1: what I do for actual livings? So I just I mean,
Speaker 1: it's okay. We we did a video jay where we
Speaker 1: had to google ourselves to see like what was right,
Speaker 1: and the website put Andrew's professionist family member, he's along
Speaker 1: for the ride. And I but you do show up
Speaker 1: to the gym sometimes and guys will give you a
Speaker 1: hard time, right, I was like, you know every Saturday
Speaker 1: morning stop really, yes, you better, you better fix this.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's all good things, but it's but
Speaker 1: it's because there's headlines and stuff. Oh no, no, it's
Speaker 1: just it's been a it's been a fun trip, especially guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, you work out. These guys um to have
Speaker 1: fun and enjoy it and give each other a hard time,
Speaker 1: and and we do that and no matter what it is,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've Trevor or Jamie whoever might be,
Speaker 1: you know, hard time, whatever happened in the week or
Speaker 1: the day and stuff like that. So yeah, it's been
Speaker 1: a little bit different for that. Um, but everybody's kind
Speaker 1: of acknowledged obviously dating Janna, and they were all excited
Speaker 1: because I think all of their wives all follow Janna
Speaker 1: as well. So it's kind of like, hey, she had
Speaker 1: number one song and they'll find out because they didn't know,
Speaker 1: and then they'll tell of anyone Like I know, dude,
Speaker 1: it's been the hardest part about dating me because love
Speaker 1: that that changes the lave hardest part about dat. You
Speaker 1: can be honest too. We're gonna get there. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's just it's two very different personalities and two very
Speaker 1: different lifestyles. Like some of the things in the beginning,
Speaker 1: you know, my background of I mean even the little
Speaker 1: things like me getting up at three four in the morning,
Speaker 1: that's not for me. We can't be doing that every day.
Speaker 1: It's like she might be up a little bit later.
Speaker 1: I like to get about eight o'clock. You know, just
Speaker 1: little things like that where it's kind of get used
Speaker 1: to each other. Um, And I guess that's not my boundary,
Speaker 1: but it's more of just kind of understanding like her
Speaker 1: needs my needs. Um, we didn't address those right away
Speaker 1: and that was definitely a difficult thing to get to.
Speaker 1: Once we finally got to, it was kind of like,
Speaker 1: all right, well I need this in my day in
Speaker 1: my week, and she needs this in her day in
Speaker 1: her week. And I think once we we went on
Speaker 1: a very long walk one day we did. We went
Speaker 1: like a four hour walk and just a long walk,
Speaker 1: and well we just I think like when you start
Speaker 1: in a relationship, you know, you like he was just
Speaker 1: trying to make me happy. I was dealing with, you know,
Speaker 1: being in a healthy relationship post which I think that's
Speaker 1: also hard for him because he's like I'm not your
Speaker 1: ax um. So I think like that's been really difficult
Speaker 1: on him because, like my therapist says, she's like, you
Speaker 1: gave him shrapnel without him like being in a war. Like, yes,
Speaker 1: you were in a war a long time, but like
Speaker 1: in this war, she's like, he's getting like shrapnel and
Speaker 1: he wasn't a part of your war, but that's like
Speaker 1: the leftover stuff. So like, you know, I think being
Speaker 1: in something that is healthy now, like he has he's
Speaker 1: like trying to differentiate the two and like letting someone
Speaker 1: like in it's it's been like difficult for him because
Speaker 1: I've tried to push him away so many times. She tried,
Speaker 1: I did. I did a hurricane hurricane Spartan race Andrew.
Speaker 1: Andrew signed us up a hurricane heat Spartan race, and I, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll gladly never do that again, which was hard aware that, oh,
Speaker 1: for sure, you're pushing me. It was more difficult mentally. Emotionally.
Speaker 1: We thought like I signed all the guys up for it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's gonna be so cool. And
Speaker 1: it was like advertise like the hardest race you could
Speaker 1: you could ever do, and it basically said like you
Speaker 1: need the mental grit of a Navy seal, dude, and
Speaker 1: it was like, it turns out that from an actual
Speaker 1: Navy seal, which was it was easier than expected, but
Speaker 1: it was a hilarious story. I do even so one
Speaker 1: thing that I had to navigate with Sean, She's like
Speaker 1: not our interview, no, no, but no, I like where
Speaker 1: you going with this because I'm gonna I'm gonna turn
Speaker 1: it back around after you say this, because I think
Speaker 1: I know where you're going with that, I am hijacking
Speaker 1: the interview. You are Ian, it's just not talking a lot.
Speaker 1: So I got I'm trying. It's not about me, it's
Speaker 1: about you guys. So that that was exactly. Yeah, dating
Speaker 1: Sean was like I loved her, right, and I knew
Speaker 1: that I love Sean, but there's and there's the excitement
Speaker 1: of dating, but then there's also like this layered excitement
Speaker 1: of she's like famous and people will stop her on
Speaker 1: the street and they want to talk, and it's like
Speaker 1: there's this level of excitement that comes with being in
Speaker 1: the public eye. And it was I felt like I
Speaker 1: needed to take a step back and be like, all right,
Speaker 1: what part of me is interested in this relationship because
Speaker 1: of that excitement versus the excitement of actually the love
Speaker 1: of Sean. You know what I'm saying. I don't know
Speaker 1: if if you resonate with that at all, but that
Speaker 1: was something that I had to Maybe I'm more shallow,
Speaker 1: but you're also a college kid. Yeah that'd be way different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I could have handled it
Speaker 1: it twenty one or whatever, you guys got together twenty two?
Speaker 1: Are you with me just because of my Instagram followers,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know how many Instagram followers, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like now to his point, like do
Speaker 1: you is it like do you love me for me?
Speaker 1: Or do you love like obviously not gonna be like yeah,
Speaker 1: actually because it's cool because you're famous. No. I mean
Speaker 1: I told you in the beginning, I would have deleted mine.
Speaker 1: I don't need it. It's not for me. It's you know,
Speaker 1: half the time, it was like Andrew would come in
Speaker 1: on my stuff, like Jamie would come on my stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like us working out. It's about it.
Speaker 1: It has been different as far as the notoriety, not
Speaker 1: me obviously, but for her. I think the one that
Speaker 1: I remember is like we were on the beach visiting
Speaker 1: your mom and some girl just with her boyfriends, sitting
Speaker 1: by themselves, no one around. We're walking past and the
Speaker 1: kid pops up. He's like, hey, my girlfriend loves you,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, that's a different life. Yeah, Because
Speaker 1: for me, I didn't have social media since two eight,
Speaker 1: so I had been completely off of it and military
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of very quiet and went about my
Speaker 1: day and it's not like that anymore. What Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna flip the background. What is one thing that you
Speaker 1: guys do better than I'm sure there's a lot, but
Speaker 1: that um in the beginning of dating, you know, like
Speaker 1: in our early stages, that you do better now or
Speaker 1: you wish that you'd go back, or you tell us
Speaker 1: like hey, like watch this, or like we do better now.
Speaker 1: I think we communicate better. Yeah, I think I almost
Speaker 1: identifying patterns in marriage. Like we've been married six years,
Speaker 1: so we've we've had the same argument about a certain
Speaker 1: topic like forty times, right, So what is it? Can
Speaker 1: you say what it is? Anything? Okay? What's what's one
Speaker 1: of the ones that always keeps coming up? Ah? The dog? Honestly,
Speaker 1: as ridiculous as that sounds, like it, I feel like
Speaker 1: that's gotten better lately. What's up with the dog? Oh?
Speaker 1: I just dogs are actual royalty to me. So like
Speaker 1: I'm a psycho dog person. Okay, Like I said, A
Speaker 1: and a dog, and I was like, you have to
Speaker 1: get this dog because I just try to find dog homes,
Speaker 1: dogs homes and and where's your stance dogs? But I
Speaker 1: like kind of view it as a dog. We're the same,
Speaker 1: Like I love it, right, and I'm going to do
Speaker 1: my best to take care of it. The dog will
Speaker 1: sleep in the bed before I will, So that's literally
Speaker 1: like my dog. It's kind of it has kind of
Speaker 1: correlated to kids ish, where like Sean has the way
Speaker 1: she expresses her love, and again I know this through patterns,
Speaker 1: like seeing this over and over is through being like
Speaker 1: hands on and always like being there to help, whereas
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, ah, you gotta figure it out,
Speaker 1: go you can do it, you know. So is the
Speaker 1: argument that Sean gets frustrated with you because you don't
Speaker 1: treat the dog like she does, or you're upset because
Speaker 1: she treats the dog like royalty. The argument is that
Speaker 1: I expect more of him he treats dogs, or it's
Speaker 1: like with kids. I am definitely more of like the warrior,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, oh my gosh, you cannot let
Speaker 1: her do that, or you can't she's gonna get hurt,
Speaker 1: or she has to go to bed at a certain
Speaker 1: time or whatever it might be. I'm just more like
Speaker 1: I'm graduled on the moms. I hear you on the moms. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the dog thing more una but shouldn't have grouped the
Speaker 1: dog and the dog anyway? What we do now, is
Speaker 1: like we we have developed patterns where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: the morning with Sean, I shouldn't throw a bunch of
Speaker 1: logistics her way because the past two hundred times that
Speaker 1: I've done that, uh, it overwhelms her right Or like
Speaker 1: at night, she really Sean really likes to debrief her day,
Speaker 1: so I need a instead of jumping right into whatever
Speaker 1: I want to do next, Like I should sit down
Speaker 1: and have time with her to talk as opposed to
Speaker 1: their being conflict in place of that, so that that
Speaker 1: probably would be it. I don't I don't like getting
Speaker 1: asked questions. Do you guys like that? For some reason,
Speaker 1: it's like what are you doing? I'm like, I like,
Speaker 1: you have my schedule? I don't know, Like just like
Speaker 1: you and Andrew are the same human, don't ask me questions.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you figure it out or look at my
Speaker 1: calendar or I don't know. It's just like I'm like,
Speaker 1: I got like a million other things in my head
Speaker 1: right now. I don't have to ask questions. Yeah, Andrew's
Speaker 1: biggest pet peeves if I'm like, what do we have
Speaker 1: to do today? And here I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't want to questions freak him out too.
Speaker 1: I can kind of tell her facial expressions. Now, it's
Speaker 1: like I can tell when she's busier. There's a thousand
Speaker 1: things going on her head. I'm like, I'm just not
Speaker 1: gonna ask a question right now. That's good. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go out again. Well, I'm gonna go back and work.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of like, I know when her face
Speaker 1: looks like that, I can ask her a question. When
Speaker 1: it's not like that, I don't ask a question. That's kind.
Speaker 1: But she does like to ask questions though, if I
Speaker 1: really need to know them, like what's two plus two? Five?
Speaker 1: Every time? We'll get there later. It's one of those
Speaker 1: things where we I was dealing with something the other
Speaker 1: day and I was trying to have this person see
Speaker 1: my reality, and Ian goes, what's two plus two? And
Speaker 1: I said four? He goes, no, it's five. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not poor, but like the other person's reality, it's five. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's going, okay, okay, you're right, it's fine, let's
Speaker 1: move on, and his mind is blown. Right, just six
Speaker 1: years of us trying to figure out all in one
Speaker 1: simple bathic version again. So now next time when you
Speaker 1: guys go to a fight, so like if not that
Speaker 1: we like have like I mean, we had like one
Speaker 1: thing just because again it was like misunderstandings and not
Speaker 1: speaking what we need, but like being like if there's
Speaker 1: even like a little like tiff, it's like two plus
Speaker 1: two and then it kind of like yeah, resets like that.
Speaker 1: That's good. I like that, You're welcome, Thank you. I
Speaker 1: do think most of our arguments come from a misunderstanding
Speaker 1: of what the other person is trying to say. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I promised we don't ask for what we need.
Speaker 1: We're my thing is and I'm like, I'm not asking
Speaker 1: you actually what I need. I'm wanting you to read
Speaker 1: my mind. But I know what but it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't shake your head like that, Mr same if you
Speaker 1: did the same thing to me. Um, But yeah, I
Speaker 1: hear you on that too. It's it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: but we're working on it. I think it's what Shaun
Speaker 1: said earlier about um when you are asking like a
Speaker 1: business question, but then you're getting a personal response from
Speaker 1: man Andrew. You're asking a personal question which you might
Speaker 1: get a business response from me Andrew. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like what what mind frame are you, And it's also
Speaker 1: how are you responding to it? So I may ask
Speaker 1: her something with an intent in a certain way and
Speaker 1: expect a certain response I'm looking for one, but she
Speaker 1: may not be in the same mental state whatever it
Speaker 1: might be that it's a good or bad men as
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like whatever is going on in her head.
Speaker 1: So if you have a business question that it's kind
Speaker 1: of like where I guess a worker being with kids
Speaker 1: for us, because our emotions get confused a lot when
Speaker 1: we'll be working, and like when Andrew works, he goes
Speaker 1: like completely void of all emotion and feelings. He just
Speaker 1: goes stone cold, and our emotions get really confused when
Speaker 1: I come in as like wife where I've taken like
Speaker 1: a breakout of the day, and I'm like wife and
Speaker 1: I want to ask him something like wife to husband,
Speaker 1: and he gives me a cold response that makes me
Speaker 1: really upset when I'm expecting him to turn it off
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, husband, when he's in the
Speaker 1: middle of his work day, thank you so much. I
Speaker 1: am aware right now after are the two plus two?
Speaker 1: That's what it was? I wonder if it is it simple?
Speaker 1: Is it something as simple as saying like what do
Speaker 1: you what response do you need as your husband or
Speaker 1: is your or is your employee or as and or
Speaker 1: is your coworker me like a little badge that you
Speaker 1: just turn around, you know, like what response do you need?
Speaker 1: You know, like, hey, I need you to like not
Speaker 1: make a joke or whatever. I don't know because that
Speaker 1: me asking that would come off as cold if I
Speaker 1: was like, what do you need from me, husband or
Speaker 1: because then I the crazy woman would be like I
Speaker 1: expect you to know what I need and I don't
Speaker 1: want to ask for it because I don't want to
Speaker 1: ask my husband to give me love. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: whole thing. Why don't you know what I'm thinking? Look
Speaker 1: at Ian showing up all mature and freaking with with advice. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like I do think there's like a stubbornness though
Speaker 1: to to I guess I could generalize it as women,
Speaker 1: but whatever, um people people know I think it's a woman.
Speaker 1: I really, I really, it's almost like a pride issue.
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell him what I need because
Speaker 1: I want him to give it to me, because I
Speaker 1: then feel desperate. I'm like, I need to tell you
Speaker 1: that I want to cuddle with you on the couch
Speaker 1: like that makes me feel pathetic. Yes, in actuality, it's
Speaker 1: actually a healthy thing to do. Yeah, it is the
Speaker 1: right thing to do is to say, which needs really
Speaker 1: hard because I know it'll be like, what do you
Speaker 1: need dinner on the house And I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to tell you what I need done.
Speaker 1: I want you to see you need to and how
Speaker 1: I need to, you know all of it exactly. I
Speaker 1: need the one box in the attic in the back
Speaker 1: corner that's three seasons away. I gotta say, it's pretty
Speaker 1: good that he's asking, what do you mean done around
Speaker 1: the house? I hear you. But that is very that
Speaker 1: is very sweet, totally and I love that. And it's
Speaker 1: very sweet having said that. One thing that I did say,
Speaker 1: there's still not rock right after um no, but I do.
Speaker 1: I hear you. It's it's hard to be like can
Speaker 1: you because then we feel like we're like naggy annoying,
Speaker 1: But like you guys, guys are just they don't they'd
Speaker 1: be like, okay, so absolutely, I'll caddle you like you
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't think that was like if if me and
Speaker 1: you know, if Sean Andrew whatever, like we were like,
Speaker 1: can you please scuttle with me tonight? Does that seem needier? Like,
Speaker 1: oh my goshly thanks for telling me. You've literally told
Speaker 1: me that exact thing. Well, you get this way, but
Speaker 1: like if I'm having a bad day or whatever and
Speaker 1: I ask that, then I go all crazy and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: is he actually caddling me because he wants to? And
Speaker 1: then I get all like crazy one. All right, well
Speaker 1: so tell I mean, obviously our listeners know you guys,
Speaker 1: but like where can they listen? Where can they follow?
Speaker 1: One of my favorite TikTok's is when you guys changed
Speaker 1: the car the seats in the car. That was hilarious.
Speaker 1: I watched it like five times, so funny. But go
Speaker 1: ahead give it all pretty much, Sean Johnson. That is
Speaker 1: the best place to look for. Just google that You've
Speaker 1: come across some stuff The East Family on YouTube. And
Speaker 1: then we have a podcast called A Couple of Things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited and we would love to come on
Speaker 1: as well. I think we're ready to come on. We
Speaker 1: do it in person, though, Yeah, come on over, come
Speaker 1: onl coome on first and we'll drink drink Yeah, perfect,
Speaker 1: all right, Well, thank you guys so much for coming
Speaker 1: on the show. I appreciate it. Okay, see you guys soon,
Speaker 1: Thank soon, Yes, please, thanks guys. Bye, Honey's Texas. We'll
Speaker 1: figure it out with you all right. By guys. Didn't
Speaker 1: you do the cross with thin? He beat everybody? Well?
Speaker 1: That was a fun episode. How does that feel in
Speaker 1: Haven't if your first mic in your hand, it's I
Speaker 1: don't want to do with it. It's awkward, Yeah, holding
Speaker 1: it very weird. I feel like I can only look
Speaker 1: at you and I just kind of look at a
Speaker 1: bit kind look at I just look at who I
Speaker 1: was talking. Yeah. Is it coming from someone who had
Speaker 1: like the hardest job ever? They don't have a camera
Speaker 1: in my face or a microphone, had a gun? Very different.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you one question? In the seal training
Speaker 1: for is it called hell week? Hell week? What was
Speaker 1: the hardest thing you had to overcome? Like they gass you,
Speaker 1: they make you be underwater for four and a half minutes,
Speaker 1: they like, what is like? What was the one thing
Speaker 1: where you're like, because not many people like you said
Speaker 1: pass the first round? Right? First phase in hell week?
Speaker 1: Or is where everybody pretty much quits so forever? What's
Speaker 1: the percentage that like first timers. Oh, um, I think
Speaker 1: it's around between eighty five drop radar. I look at
Speaker 1: it so um. I know the last class that went through,
Speaker 1: I believe it was started with two and they finished
Speaker 1: with seventeen guys. Wow. And was there like in that
Speaker 1: week or the first phase, like where is there a
Speaker 1: point where you were like this is hard or this
Speaker 1: is going to make me drop? Um? I never I
Speaker 1: think the guys that make it through don't ever really
Speaker 1: have that go through their head. The thing for me
Speaker 1: was the cold that was not what do you mean
Speaker 1: by the cold? I mean you sit in the Pacific
Speaker 1: Ocean in the middle of the night for hours on end,
Speaker 1: just staring at stars and you're like, well, is this
Speaker 1: ever gonna stop? So um. They try to get you
Speaker 1: to a somewhat hypothermic state, and we had guys get
Speaker 1: dropped of the program because they couldn't raise their body temperatures,
Speaker 1: they couldn't control um their mind basically, And so that's
Speaker 1: kind of the hardest part for me. Like the physical
Speaker 1: stuff is just you work out and then you get
Speaker 1: to eat. It's great. It's you know, most twenty year
Speaker 1: old guys dreams is you work out all day and
Speaker 1: it's a big boy scout camp for the most part,
Speaker 1: and you get to eat every couple of hours. But
Speaker 1: it was just a cold and you're constantly shaking and
Speaker 1: you're just covered in sand head to toe for weeks
Speaker 1: straight and you sleep. Uh do you get to eat
Speaker 1: the whole time though? Or do they not like try
Speaker 1: to prepare you for not eating and you don't sleep? Right,
Speaker 1: you don't sleep. You get a time you get use
Speaker 1: my handler. You get a time frame to sleep. Not
Speaker 1: everybody does. UM. Once you kind of stop moving, your
Speaker 1: body starts to shut down and try to recover. So
Speaker 1: if you do sleep, once we wake you up, how
Speaker 1: long do you get to sleep if you slept? I
Speaker 1: don't remember the actual note. I think it was you
Speaker 1: get a time frame of like two hours on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: so it starts Sunday night. You don't know when it starts.
Speaker 1: So basically the whole compound UM if you don't know.
Speaker 1: It's in Cornado, California, so UM, a lot of Cornado
Speaker 1: hears it. They hear the explosions go off and fake
Speaker 1: gunfire blanks that's what they call him, and everything goes off.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows is to start a hell week and that
Speaker 1: lasts for a couple of hours and then it just
Speaker 1: continues on for the whole week. And then uh so
Speaker 1: you don't So how long? How many days did you
Speaker 1: not sleep for? To start? You don't sleep for three
Speaker 1: and a half days straight, I thinks what it is.
Speaker 1: And then you get a two hour I think's two
Speaker 1: hours two hours to sleep if you do, and then
Speaker 1: you're done. After that you don't sleep again. So how
Speaker 1: many days did you consecutively? Go send me a Friday
Speaker 1: without sleeping? Wow, So you didn't take the two hours? No,
Speaker 1: because I was scared about what would happen if I did.
Speaker 1: Say that seems could be worse. So I knew. I
Speaker 1: heard guys that win in you go into like this tent,
Speaker 1: you gotta thank everybody's free. I was a winner. I
Speaker 1: was a winter hell week. So I went through in November,
Speaker 1: about a week or two weeks before Thanksgiving started. It
Speaker 1: was one of the coldest times in Coronado history, and
Speaker 1: it was miserable. And the guys that got into the
Speaker 1: tent to go sleep, when they would get woken um,
Speaker 1: they would get you know, woken up in the morning
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, they would quit right there because
Speaker 1: they were too cold and too mentally out of it.
Speaker 1: So I knew that I didn't want to do that,
Speaker 1: take that chance. I don't think I could. Being cold.
Speaker 1: The cold is the worst. I had a buddy all
Speaker 1: of it sounds, who he he couldn't get his body
Speaker 1: temperature up, so they had to drop him because he
Speaker 1: wasn't mentally there. But he was one of the best
Speaker 1: physical specimens I've ever seen. Like the guy was incredible.
Speaker 1: But every time we go in the water, he'd come
Speaker 1: out and he would be So we swallow a pill
Speaker 1: that they take our temperature and like our core temperature,
Speaker 1: and they scan us every time we come out of
Speaker 1: the water to make sure see where we're in. If
Speaker 1: you're too locally. That's a thing. That's crazy, that that's
Speaker 1: mental though. Keeping your body, it's part of it is
Speaker 1: because you can you can get into an ice bath
Speaker 1: and it can be miserable, or you can kind of like,
Speaker 1: all right, I can regulate with my thoughts now to
Speaker 1: a certain extent an entire time. But once you get out,
Speaker 1: if you're so if you're so cold and you can't
Speaker 1: process what you're doing because sometimes you're you know, they'd
Speaker 1: ask you to count to a certain number or whatever
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't respond to it. So I mean guys
Speaker 1: haven't do all the time. So well, thank you for
Speaker 1: your service, You're welcome. Thank you for your support. Um,
Speaker 1: then thanks for coming on wind down UM a few
Speaker 1: minutes Bye guys, are you hye