1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four, and if 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: you haven't heard as far as the podcast, we now 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: release a podcast hour as soon as it's done on 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: the radio. As soon as we are finished with the 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: one o'clock hour, we put it on. We put it 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app so you could download it. Same 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: thing to two and the three o'clock hour, so you 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: don't have to wait till the end of the show anymore. 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: At the end of each hour, we post it online 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: and you can enjoy it all right on to. 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 1: By. 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: This is such a strange story, and as we get 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: into this, the way the PMA County Sheriff is responding 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: to media questions it's also kind of odd as well. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: But first let's get to and you may have heard, 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: Nancy Guthrie is the mother of Savannah Guthrie, who's a 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: Today Show host on NBC, and she's eighty four years 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: old and she doesn't move very well. She is though 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: cognitively there, so this is not a case of somebody 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: with dementia wandering off. Let's go to Alex Stone from 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: ABC News to see what the latest is. Hey, they're John, Yeah, 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: very clear. Now after two days of Nancy Gothrie missing 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: that her whereabouts are a mystery, and we know there's 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: a lot of activity at this point. TMZ is saying 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: in the last few minutes that they were emailed a 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: ransom note asking four millions of dollars in bitcoin. Just 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: now as you're coming to me, the Sheriff's department in 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: Pmac County getting back to us, saying that they know 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: that there are reports out there of a ransom note 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: or ransom notes coming from different people, and that they're 33 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: going to look into all of them. That they don't 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: know that any of them are authentic or verified. You know, 35 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: it's like swatting calls. The people around the world are 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: going to be making claims and trying to get money 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: or thinking it's funny, and so they got to figure 38 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: all of these out. But the ransom was sent to 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: the ransom Tomz is sent to TMZ, and TMZ says 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: they sentate just a little while ago to the Sheriff's department. 41 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: TMZ claims Harvey Levin that that there are some details 42 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: in there that they think are not public that maybe 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: could indicate that it is a real thing, but the 44 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: Sheriff's department saying that they don't know. The FBI will 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 2: will look into all of them, and that typically in 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: a case like this, you're gonna get a lot of 47 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: fake ones and maybe one of them will be real. 48 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: We don't know yet, But Sheriff Chris Nantas a little 49 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: while ago came out with the FBI to plead again 50 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: for the public's help, saying they don't know where she is, 51 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: they don't know who took her, saying, Nancy was taken 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: from a home against her whell and that's where we're at. 53 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 1: He said. 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: There is no DNA to indicate who the suspects were 55 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: who were in the home that has come back from 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: the lab. Only her DNA has been found in the home. 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: No information on any cars seen in the area. Nobody 58 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: saw anything. They don't know if it was random or 59 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: it was targeted. There are no tire tracks or footprints 60 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: around the home or on the driveway dirt driveway indicating 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: who was there. 62 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: We're falling all leads we have. 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: That's all I can tell you. 64 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: We've got hundreds of leads, and it's from you that 65 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: produced those leads by telling people we need help, and 66 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: I'm grateful for that, but I'm yeah, I'm not going 67 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: to get into all that. 68 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: We have a team designated to deal with all of 69 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: our leads. 70 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: They're looking into all of that. 71 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: And he says all that DNA is being looked at. 72 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: The FBI is going through today cell phone data, cell 73 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: tower data to know who is in the area. 74 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: He has We've submitted all all kinds of samples for 75 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: DNA and we've gotten some back, but nothing to indicate 76 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: any suspects. 77 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but at this point, they say they're interviewing witnesses. 78 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: A lot of leads have been coming in. They put 79 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: out a QR code last night for people to easily 80 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: upload photos and videos. They don't know where she is. 81 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 2: They don't have any indication she is alive. They don't 82 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: have any indication that she is dead. That clock was 83 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: ticking of. They say that she needed medication within twenty 84 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: four hours. That time is come and gone if it 85 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: was really going to be deadly if she didn't have 86 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: the medication. They hope to find her alive, but they 87 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: don't know. They believe she was kidnapped, but they don't 88 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: know where she is no ring camera video in the neighborhood. No, 89 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: So the neighborhood is pretty remote out in the desert. 90 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: They're nice homes, but it's down a kind of more 91 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: rustic road. And then what looks like dirt driveway is 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: coming off of it and cacked his type plants that 93 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: are in between the road and the home. Now there 94 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: are cameras around the home. What's not clear that the 95 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: sheriff says for some reason they haven't been able to 96 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: get into the server to get the video, and that 97 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: they're working with the manufacturer to try to get in there. 98 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: Which I mean, it seems like, you know every ring 99 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: account I've ever known, it's pretty easy to get into 100 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: her the family would be able to get into it, 101 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: well yeah, I mean wouldn't wouldn't her daughter be able 102 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: to you? Would you would think know what the password 103 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: probably is or have set it up. I know with 104 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: my parents, I'm essentially their it guy. So you don't 105 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: know everything for my eighty year old Terrance. And there 106 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: is one camera on the front of the home that 107 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: is missing, But the sheriff said he doesn't know if 108 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: that's been gone for months or years, or if the 109 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: bad guy took it. They don't know that that could 110 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: have nothing to do with this. There is a place 111 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: where a camera was but that reporters have seen is 112 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: not there any longer. And yeah, and even investigators could 113 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: have taken it down trying to get into it, but 114 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: they don't know if that's. 115 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: Part of this. 116 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 2: There's a report this morning there was some blood found 117 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: at the scene. Was that true? So that is what 118 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: some sources have said that The sheriff says he doesn't 119 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: want to talk about what the DNA is. He will 120 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: say that it's pretty clear that she was taken against 121 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: her will, but he won't say that it was blood. 122 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: He says that they have taken DNA in a number 123 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: of different places around the home, and everything that has 124 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: come back so far has been for her. Now, if 125 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: it is blood, we know that there are indicators that 126 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: harm was done to her, so it may very well be. 127 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: If it was, it probably would have been a better 128 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: thing had it been blood of somebody else, because that 129 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: would have left them to somebody else. Blood to her 130 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: doesn't help out much. But there are cameras. There are cameras, yes, 131 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: side or outside. Do we know they're around the property? 132 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're they're in the home. I 133 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: get the feeling that they're probably outside, but they're on 134 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: the property and they're trying to get into those right now. 135 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: I'm just noticing some of the responses from the p 136 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: Mac County sheriff, Chris Nanos. And he was asked if 137 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: the public was in danger, and he says, well, we 138 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: have crime and tucson all the time. Didn't know what 139 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: that meant, and then he goes, well, the scene is done, 140 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: we're done with the residents. We don't know where she is, 141 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: no clue. Yeah, yeah, there's like an abruptness about him. 142 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. The uh. 143 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: And when asking about if anybody's in danger, when he 144 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: went on after saying that there's crime and tuson all 145 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: the time, he said, you know, I would say that 146 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: that you're in danger if we had somebody kidnapping a 147 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: bunch of eighty four year old women around town. He says, 148 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 2: we haven't seen any pattern of anything, so he doesn't 149 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: think people are in danger, but he's he's putting it 150 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: based on that. Today he was much more guarded. He 151 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: says that yesterday he learned his lesson that he's a 152 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: small town sheriff and he was bombarded by media questions 153 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: and everybody picked apart his words to say, Okay, he 154 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: said this, so he must mean that. So today he 155 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: came out and he said, I'm done. We're not going 156 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: to do this again until Thursday unless there's a break. So, 157 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: by the way, if we find out that there's a 158 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: briefing tonight, that means there's a break in the case, 159 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: because he said otherwise, he's got to take some time 160 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: away from reporters. That he did non stop interviews yesterday 161 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: and everybody was, you know, taking what he said, and 162 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: then he said twisting it, and so he wanted to 163 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: do the Q and A today and then he said 164 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: he needs a couple of days to get everything. Have 165 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: you ever been to p MC County. Yeah, yeah, one 166 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: of my sons that played baseball there for a little while. 167 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: That is a god forsaken place, boy, Tucson. 168 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: It can be hot, yeah, not too much this time 169 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: of the year, but. 170 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: It can be hot, yeah, really hot, really desert ye 171 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: and just really depressing. 172 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Alex. 173 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, if we hear anything, please you know, 174 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: now with these letters potentially coming and we'll see, maybe 175 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: they'll get a break tonight Stone ABC News on the 176 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: mother of Savannah Guthrie, the NBC Today's Show host Nancy 177 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: Guthrie eighty four years old and is missing. And I 178 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: don't know if you can take verbatim what what police 179 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: people say publicly, because if they if they if they 180 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: know stuff, but they haven't caught the bad guy, they're 181 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: not going to give all kinds of details. And his 182 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: answers were pretty short. And maybe he has had it 183 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: with the media because he's never had to deal with 184 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: it before. I'm looking at I'm looking at TMZ. And 185 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: the note was sent to TMZ Tuesday morning and demands 186 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: a specific substantial amount of bitcoin is what they wrote. 187 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: The amount is in the millions, and the note demands 188 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: that the cryptocurrency be sent to a specific bitcoin address, 189 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: and TMZ has verified that the bitcoin wine address is real. 190 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: And this is largely what bitcoin is used for. I 191 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: think ransom notes and uh and a way to launch 192 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: your money if you're a drug runner or you're involved 193 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: in financial fraud. That this this is what what bitcoin 194 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: is used for. In case you were always puzzled by it, 195 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: not It's like it's like most electric cars, they're really 196 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: not useful. In real life you hear about it all 197 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: the time and people bet on the value of the 198 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: currency like it's a zeno. But as far as uh 199 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: practical uses uh near zero. 200 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: All right, we are going to uh what did what 201 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: did I want to do? First? Here? 202 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I want to play you one of the most 203 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: galling soundbites you'll ever hear from the new fire chief 204 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: for the Los Angeles Fire Department. This one really pissed 205 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: me off. And that is next. 206 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 207 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: M six forty. 208 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: I actually saw this online this morning and it was 209 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: posted by the Fox eleven reporter Matthew Seedorf. And this 210 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: is so infuriating. You know, we had Haimi Moron, He's 211 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: the third Los Angeles Fire Department chief, and he never 212 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: ever would budge and explain why the commanders of the 213 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: fire department did so many stupid things and botched the 214 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: fire preparation and the fire response so badly. No names, 215 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: no explanations, just vague promises of we will do better 216 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: something along those lines, and obviously well prepared by attorneys 217 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: and public relations people. And it's really a sticking a 218 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: finger in the eye of all the victims who either 219 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: lost family members or lost their homes, lost their their town, 220 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: their neighbors, their schools. He is so terrified of Karen 221 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: bass I really thought firefighters are more courageous, right, If 222 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: you're willing to take on a wall of flames or 223 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: burst into a burning building to rescue children, you'd be 224 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: able to stand down that little communist that we have 225 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: impersonating a mayor. But it looks like Heimi Moore. I 226 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: guess he's got to protect his pension or he finally 227 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 2: made it to fire chief. Maybe that was his dream. 228 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, but listen to this response to Fox 229 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: eleven reporter Matthew Seedorf. It's it's short, it's one question. 230 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: Pretty closer to learning who ordered down this report? And 231 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: you ordered not to be watered down. 232 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: So, just like the mayor's State of the City address, 233 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: I think we need to look forward. We need to 234 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 4: look for what's ahead behind us. 235 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: Kind of want those answers. 236 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: Well, I understand that, but they have to understand what 237 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: are they going to do with those answers. They want 238 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 4: to point fingers, they want to point Blaine, I've taken ownership. 239 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 2: And he's referring specifically there to the nonsense BS after 240 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: action report that didn't explain why the fire commanders performed 241 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: so badly bad decisions, didn't show up, didn't follow up 242 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: to put out the original fire from January first. And 243 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: I'm just writing down these phrases, look forward, look ahead. 244 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: This is what bast did yesterday in her speech too. 245 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: And we're going to play you clips of that look forward, 246 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: I mean that is that is so infuriating. No, we 247 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: don't have to look forward, you guys aft up were 248 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: that any fire department has ever left up in the 249 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: history of the United States, from the fire chief on 250 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: down to the battalion chiefs or the assistant chiefs or 251 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: whatever complicated titles you guys give yourselves. You put your 252 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: firefighters in horrible positions. There's nobody with any confidence in 253 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: the department anymore. And you want to look forward and 254 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: look ahead? No, no, no, we wanted And specifically what Matthew 255 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: Sheedorf was asking was that ridiculous after action report, which 256 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: was supposed to be the investigation that answered all the questions, 257 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: and instead it was rewritten six times. They used the 258 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: phrase watered down. It was more like disemboweled. There's no 259 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: substance in the report anymore. Yes, we're looking to point fingers. Yes, 260 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: we're looking to point blame. Yes, I want to know 261 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: which people were so horribly incompetent that we lost seven 262 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: thousand buildings and we had twelve people die, twelve people 263 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: burned to death. You can't respond after twelve people burned 264 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: to death. Really, let's look forward. I don't think those twelve, 265 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: those twelve burnt bodies are gonna be looking forward. How's 266 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: their family going to look forward? And you got thousands 267 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: of people who are about That's another thing we're gonna 268 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: get to next hour or two o'clock. We're gonna talk 269 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: to a woman in Alta, Dina. Nobody's helped in Altadena 270 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: at all, nobody, And she says, she's gonna tell you 271 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: a lot of the residents are getting foreclosed on now 272 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: because they've been forced to pay off their mortgage, or 273 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: they have to pay off their mortgage now and they 274 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: have to pay rent and they can't afford it, so 275 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: they're gonna get foreclosed and they're gonna have to give 276 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: up their homes and have a little to show for it. 277 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: So we're not looking ahead. We're not looking forward. It's 278 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: impossible to. And I really resent the arrogance and obnoxiousness 279 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: of this guy hid me more, telling everybody to look 280 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: forward and look ahead. No, you work for us, you 281 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: and the rest of the people in fire management. We're 282 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: never supposed to let this happen. And you guys did, 283 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: and you made repeated, compound errors and you still do 284 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: to this day. And then you're covering everything up, and 285 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: you're covering everything up, and everybody's lying about everything, and 286 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: you're all afraid of Karen Bass, and it's just disgusting. 287 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: It's absolutely disgusting. I saw this clip this morning. I 288 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: kept like put it on repeat and repeat. It's like, 289 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: are you crazy? Are you a crazy person? We don't 290 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: want to point figures, we want to point play. Yes, 291 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: I want to know exactly who to blame for this. 292 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: I am pointing my finger and I want to know 293 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: who to play. Eventually we're going to find out. Remember 294 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: this was what other trick did Bass pull When they 295 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: were doing depositions and I started interviewing fire personnel. Bass's 296 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: attorneys pulled this maneuver where everything had to be sealed 297 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: for at least thirty days while they review it. No, 298 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: it's it's bass is running for reelection. She's doing her 299 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: two State of the City speeches. We're gonna play some 300 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: clips from yesterday's and you know that's it's it's all 301 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: nonsense and bs. But she she's she's using the same 302 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: manipulation in your speeches, the fake empathy. 303 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 4: Uh. 304 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: And then she wants to move forward. That's not possible. 305 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: That's not going to happen, not here at least. I 306 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: don't buy into the public relations lawyer. 307 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: BS. 308 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: Oh yes, just keep saying move forward, and then eventually 309 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: people are gonna go, Yeah, I guess we should move No, 310 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: nobody should move forward. It should stick to all these 311 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: people like tar for the rest of their lives. And 312 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: I mean Moore, that is that is a terrible thing 313 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: to say. Who you are so afraid of? Karen bass Boy, 314 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: she's got them in a jar in her desk, doesn't she. 315 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 4: We need to look forward. 316 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: We need now play the whole thing again, the whole 317 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: thing again. 318 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: Were closer to learning who ortered down this report and 319 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: you ordered that to be watered down. 320 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 4: So, just like the mayor's State of the City address, 321 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 4: I think we need to look forward. We need to 322 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 4: look for what's ahead. That's behind us kind of want 323 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: those answers. Well, I understand that, but they have to 324 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 4: understand what are they going to do with those answers. 325 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 4: They want to point fingers, they want to point blame. 326 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: I've taken ownership. 327 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: What are they gonna do with those answers? 328 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: Then we'll know who's part of the cover up, who's 329 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: covering up the truth, who's covering up the truth? Yes, 330 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: who botched the fire preparation, who botched the firefighting execution, 331 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: who botched the follow up? Who botched the January first fire? 332 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: I want the truth, every bit of it. I want 333 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: the names of everybody. I want to know who's liable 334 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: for this, who's responsible. He takes ownership. I don't think 335 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: he was part of that decision made process. 336 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: And if he was. 337 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: Part of it, then why doesn't he explain what he 338 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: screwed up? Personally? I take ownership of That's that new 339 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: Cat's phrase that the PR people teach you, the lawyers 340 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: to oh yeah, yeah yeah, show empathy and tell them 341 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: you own this and say things, this is all like 342 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: customer service stuff. Yes, I hear you, Yes, I hear 343 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: what you're saying. When people say that to me, I've 344 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: heard that from people on the job and there's an issue. Oh, 345 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. I know you can hear. 346 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: I see your ears. Why did this happen? What are 347 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: you gonna do about it? Same thing here. Don't give 348 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: me public relations nonsense. Don't give me customer service can responses. 349 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: You know I could call an airline for that. So, 350 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: I mean, Moore, you're on the list. We're gonna keep 351 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: after you too. That was the worst answer I've ever heard. 352 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: We come back. Oh more bad answers clips. I hope 353 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: you haven't had lunch. This will make you up, Chuck. 354 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: Karen Bass held some kind of state of the City 355 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: address yesterday. She did talk about the fire, same theme, 356 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: though the theme is let's pretend it didn't happen. 357 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 358 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: six forty. 359 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 2: You can follow us on social media at John Cobelt 360 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: Radio at John Cobelt Radio, and you can subscribe on 361 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: YouTube to YouTube dot com slash at John Cobelts Show, 362 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: and we put up long form videos frequently. YouTube dot 363 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: com slash at John Cobelt Show. Subscribe to it and 364 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: then you'll know right away when we have something new 365 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: for you you to enjoy. All right, Well, we just 366 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: played you this atrocious comment from the fire chief Heimi Moore, 367 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: who's apparently so terrified of Karen Bass that when he 368 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: was asked by Fox eleven report Matthew Seedorf, hey, when 369 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: are we gonna find out who watered down and why 370 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: they watered it down the after action report. It's part 371 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: of the big cover ups so that the public doesn't know. 372 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: And he said pretty much. He said, well, you know, 373 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: what would they do with that information if they didn't know? 374 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: You know, just point fingers, point blame. Fingers need to 375 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: be pointed at the likes of you and Ronnie Viennaweva, 376 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: your predecessor, and Kristin Crowley, who is on duty as 377 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: fire chief when Palisades fire happened. Yes, lots of fingers. 378 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: Karen Bass. It's hard to believe that she wasn't the 379 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: one who ordered it to be to be eviscerated. That 380 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: report was eviscerated. 381 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 5: I'd never heard, I never heard of public officials say 382 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 5: that had the biggest tragedy that's ever occurred because of 383 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 5: a fire in a major city in the history of 384 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 5: the United States. 385 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: Well, what's the point of knowing who's responsible for the 386 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: bad preparation and the bad execution and the cover up 387 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: and the lies. What are they gonna do with that information? 388 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: You're just the taxpayers. The contempt they have for all 389 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: of us is incredible, and why do people put up 390 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: with it? It's like like some form of battered wife syndrome, 391 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: some kind of Stockholm syndrome, where people are identifying with 392 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: the batterer, people are identifying with their captors and not 393 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 2: standing up and saying, buddy, we pay your salary. That 394 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: should be public information. That is public information. Give it up, 395 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: Explain who's screwed up, and who lied, who covered up? 396 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 2: What are they gonna do with it? What are they 397 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: gonna do with it? We want to look forward. And 398 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: here's another one here, and you know she's a boy. 399 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: She ought to be taken out in cuffs. Karen Bass 400 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 2: State of the City Speech. Let's play cut number one 401 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: about the Palisades fire. 402 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 6: I want to speak plainly, from one Angelino to another 403 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 6: agen about our shared resilience, our spirit, our faith in 404 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 6: one another, and how we must move forward together. 405 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 2: Stop stop how many how many upchuck moments are right 406 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: there Angelino to Angelino, our resilience. How we have to 407 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: move forward. So you notice the company line here from 408 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: the PR agents. Jimi Moore says, look forward. Karen Bass 409 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: says move forward. No again, you're not getting it. This 410 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: is enraging, this is infuriating. Nobody normal wants to allow 411 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 2: you to look forward and move forward so you can 412 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: continue earning your exorbitant salaries and all your perks, and 413 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: you continue destroying the city. 414 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 6: Continue and how we must move forward together last January, 415 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 6: as flames tore through the palisades, it's. 416 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: Not what's with the phony voice like Joe Biden would 417 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: use when he whispers. 418 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's like breathy, it's really soft. It's a 419 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: fake voice. You know. 420 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: When she's being herself, she's a screeching lunatic, like like 421 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: when she sees ICE agents, when she sees illegal aliens, 422 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: when she sees illegal alien criminals getting rounded up, then 423 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: she's screeching like a crazy person. 424 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: That's the real Karen Bass. But what's this with the 425 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: gentle soothing tone? 426 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: Such a freaking phony, a complete and utter phony play. 427 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: Some more. 428 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 6: Neighbors ran untoward danger to escape. Others we saw courage 429 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 6: in its purest form. We saw firefighters who worked around 430 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 6: the clock, even when some of them knew they might 431 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 6: lose their own homies. 432 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: Stop stop, stop, stop stop. 433 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: How many people you want me to call and have 434 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 2: them come on the air who saw no firefighters at 435 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: all the first day, or the second day or the 436 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 2: third day. I know the firefighters who showed up did 437 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: everything they well, I guess they did. But I all 438 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: my people I meet in the Palisades, friends I have 439 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: said they saw no firefighters, or they were standing around, 440 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: or there was a lot of them clustered at the 441 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: beach eating. 442 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: You know, I'm all. 443 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: Into supporting the firefighters and the police, but it's like 444 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: teachers and nurses. They want to be a protected species, 445 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: impervious to any criticism, impervious to describing what the reality is. 446 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: The reality is it may not have been the fault 447 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: of the firefighters, but a lot of people didn't show up. 448 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: They didn't even show up, and they're all afraid of 449 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: getting fired. So nobody wants to explain what really happened, 450 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 2: and you got these big lawsuits out there nothing. By 451 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: the way, you might as well tell the truth. It 452 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 2: is going to come out in the lawsuit and it's 453 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 2: really going to be ugly for the taxpayers because we're 454 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: all going to have to pay these damages. But we're 455 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: gonna find out eventually. Once you admit it. You could 456 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: tell these people don't have consciences, nothing bothers them. Well, 457 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: let's move forward, Let's look forward, says Heimimore. Let's move forwards. 458 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: As Karen Bass, that is the behavior of sociopaths. You 459 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 2: should be racked with guilt for what you did. The 460 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: same way that everybody in the Palisades is racked with 461 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: grief after a year, especially the ones who had somebody 462 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: die in their family. I'm so sick of sociopathic public servants. 463 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: Public servants. I play some more. 464 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 6: Angelinos reached out with food, clothing, and open arms, and 465 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 6: Angelinos of all kinds handed out water and masks and 466 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 6: guided strangers to safety. 467 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: You didn't. You were an athles. 468 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 6: The city refused to turn away from one another. 469 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: You did. 470 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 6: Now over the past year, Angelino's I have heard your grief. 471 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 6: I've heard your anger, see I heard you your exhaustion. 472 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 1: I can hear you. 473 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 6: I have sat with Palisades families who lost their homes, 474 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 6: their livelihoods, and all sense of normalcy. 475 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: Stop stop, and. 476 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 2: She claims to have sat with them had no impact 477 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: on her, because otherwise she would tell all the truth, 478 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: and she'd make all the fire fighters and all the 479 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 2: fire managers, the commanders, the assistant chiefs, the battalion chiefs, 480 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: everybody tell the truth. Now today, that's what she would do, 481 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: That's what people want to know. But on the one hand, she. 482 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: Goes, yes, I've I've heard, I've heard the grief. 483 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 2: On the other hand, but we're not gonna We're not 484 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: gonna tell you who caused the grief. And it starts 485 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: with her because she never had any meetings that week 486 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: to prepare the fire department and everyone else. Why did 487 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 2: Denise Kinonyez empty that reservoir and never refill it? Did 488 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: Karen Bess know about it? Why didn't she do something 489 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: about it? She had seven days of a high wind 490 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: and fired danger warnings. What did you do about it? 491 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: Jud and fired chef? You deleted all your text messages 492 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: from the month of January. Why'd you do that? You 493 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: destroyed evidence is what you did. This after action report 494 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: rewritten six times. It's basically destroying evidence. 495 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: Again. All you do is destroy evidence and cover her 496 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: up and then tell. 497 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: Them I'm gonna talk to Angelino in a fake voice 498 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: with fake empathy. 499 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: Ah more coming out. I'll play play another clip or 500 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: two in the next segment. I gotta go, and I 501 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: think we're gonna go throw up. 502 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI. 503 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 2: A six moistline is eight seven seven Moist eighty six 504 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: eight seven seven Moist eighty six, or usually talkback feature 505 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: on the iHeart app. Coming up after two o'clock, We're 506 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: gonna talk with a woman named Heavenly Hughes. 507 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: Uh. 508 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: If you remember, we had a documentary filmmaker on a 509 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago about the about the Altadena fire, 510 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: because the people in Altadena are also still suffering a lot, 511 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: and the county government is is incredibly incompetent and they're 512 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: not getting any help. And Heavenly was supposed to be 513 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: on with us at the time we were talking about 514 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: the documentary. Uh, But we have it on today in 515 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: just a few minutes. And I spoke with her briefly 516 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: over the weekend. And there are a lot of people 517 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: in Alta Dina fire victims. Homes are gone and they're 518 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: going to have to pay rent and they still have 519 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: to pay their mortgage, and they're not getting any help 520 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: from any level of government. They can't afford paying their 521 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: mortgage and paying rent on a new place, and so 522 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: they're going to get foreclosed on. There's a lot of 523 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: people in danger getting foreclosed on in Altadena, and it's 524 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: a travesty, and the five bumbling women, the fools who 525 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: run the La County Supervisor Board, are doing nothing to help. 526 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: There's nobody in Sacramento from the embarrassingly handsome Gavin Newsom 527 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: on down who's helping. Nobody in the legislature, which leads 528 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: me to this clip from the State of the Cesspool 529 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: speech by Karen Bass. She says she's going up to 530 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: Sacramento to try to get legislators to help rebuild the Palisades. 531 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: Play cut four, cut three. 532 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 6: Next week, I will travel to Sacramento along with councilwomen, 533 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 6: Park and a delegation of Palisadians to make clear to 534 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 6: the state that continued investment in rebuilding the Palisades is 535 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 6: not optional, it is essential. 536 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: It's almost four hundred days since the fire, and in 537 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: those four hundred days, all the Democratic Assembly and State Senators, 538 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: because they have a super majority, So it's entirely on 539 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: the Democrats. They are not helping out the Democratic leader 540 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: and the Democratic city council and the Democratic supervisors in 541 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: La County. So she has to go to Sacramento to 542 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: talk members, talk to members of her own party to 543 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 2: get funding to help out the taxpayers that pay all 544 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: their salaries. Now, after four hundred days, four hundred freaking days, 545 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: now she's going up there because they haven't helped yet. 546 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: How can that be? 547 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: They have tens of billions of dollars they've spent on 548 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: illegal alien healthcare. If you just took all the money 549 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: spent on illegal aliens, you could rebuild the palisades and 550 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: out the Dina. Now she's going up there to beg 551 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: Isn't that incredibly outrageous? Again, you talk about battered voter syndrome, 552 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: battered taxpayer syndrome. They let your homes burn, They don't 553 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: give you any aid to rebuild. They won't give you 554 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: the permits to rebuild until you can't afford the situation 555 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: you're in and you have to sell or you have to. 556 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: Get foreclosed on. 557 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: They don't give you the permits and they don't give 558 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: you the aid, so you have to be foreclosed on, 559 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: or you're forced to sell at a cheap price, and 560 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: you'll vote for them again. Wow, let's go to cut 561 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: two now, the state of the Cesspool speech, Bass talking 562 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: about the fire victims wanting to feel normal again. 563 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 6: I also know that many of you ask when will 564 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 6: life ever feel normal again. I want you to know 565 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 6: that every day without a home is a day too long. 566 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 6: Every argument with your insurance company is another hour that 567 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 6: you won't get back. 568 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: Stop stop, And who's responsible for the insurance situation? Gavin 569 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: Newsom and cal Fart Lara cut a deal with insurance 570 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: companies about two months before the fire and create a 571 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: gigantic loopholes so that these insurance companies could cut customers 572 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: by the tens of thousands. So they did. They canceled 573 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: policies by the tens of thousands, including many people in 574 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: the Palisades. So the insurance issue was created again by 575 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: your teammates, Gavin Newsom Ricardo Lara. New York Times did 576 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: an extensive peace on it. You go rid it yourself 577 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: if you think I'm just frothing at the mouth. New 578 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: York Times didn't a long, long piece about just how 579 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: incompetently negotiated. This deal was with the insurance industry, and 580 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: the insurance industry got everything they wanted. They got to 581 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: cancel thousands of policies. Two months later, the fire happened 582 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: and people realized they were uninsured. Some of them didn't 583 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: even know, or they were thrown into the Fair Plan, 584 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: which is now bankrupt, and they were only covered for 585 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: a fraction of their homes worth. And as bad as 586 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: it is in the Palace Ad, it's even worse than Altadena. 587 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, in Alta Diena, from what 588 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: I understand, there's developers now willing to buy up these 589 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: foreclosed properties so they can start building mega mansions in 590 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: West Altadena, which formerly was a middle class, argely black neighborhood. 591 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: But that middle class black neighborhood was never warned about 592 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 2: the fire. The Los Angeles County Fire Department, the County 593 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 2: Emergency Services, the County Sheriff's department, nobody warned those people. 594 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: And I believe there were nineteen more deaths there, but 595 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: I guess they didn't rate. And you can't get any 596 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 2: of the any of the council, any of the supervisors 597 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: talk about that. You know, Catherine Barger build a slice 598 00:34:52,840 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: jenis Han, you know, the Genius Hall of Fame. So 599 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: we come back, We're going to talk with Heavenly. 600 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: Hughes. 601 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: Heavenly Hughes, she was part of a documentary recently and 602 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: she's become a community leader and she's trying to get 603 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: help for the Altadena residents who can't carry a mortgage 604 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: and a rental bill at the same time, who can't 605 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: get the insurance that they need the insurance settlement, and 606 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: now they're basically they're I mean they're going bankrupt, they're 607 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 2: getting foreclosed on, or they've got a sal real cheap 608 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 2: to these developers, they're going to put up mega mansions 609 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: for the wealthy. That's coming up next, Heavenly Hughes, right 610 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 2: after Deborah Mark Live in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, 611 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You 612 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI Am six 613 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 614 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.