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Speaker 3: what's happening, what's happening? What's happening? Welcome to another episode
Speaker 3: of the Gangst the Chronicles podcast, where Gainst.
Speaker 1: The Rap lives. It's your boy, Big Steal and of course.
Speaker 3: Man today, man, we got a we got a pioneer
Speaker 3: in the building today Man and I'm gonna let him
Speaker 3: introduce itself because he got something that he do. Man,
Speaker 3: it's known worldwide. You want to say the Pat Tod
Speaker 3: We gotta get it man. Man, we appreciate you man
Speaker 3: sitting down with us for a spell this morning. Man,
Speaker 3: before we go into anything with the music. Man, you
Speaker 3: do something, Man, that's really dope to me. Man, you've
Speaker 3: been going out. You got a prison ministry going on.
Speaker 3: Oh Man, look man, we just we just vessels, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Yeah, we'd be going in the
Speaker 3: prison talking to all the inmate. I just left out
Speaker 3: of what was the land Cancer. I just left land
Speaker 3: Cancil about two by a month and a half ago.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 3: That's my third time being in Landcastle. Man, you got
Speaker 3: to hit us up man when you out there. Man,
Speaker 3: we would love to come out and support that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah I was out there. Matter of fact, I had
Speaker 3: your boy out. The song was in the last the
Speaker 3: last time I just win he.
Speaker 1: Was with that. Oh is that him in there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I brought him in there? Is that right? Man?
Speaker 3: That's dope. Man, That's dope. What made you decide man
Speaker 3: to start to get into.
Speaker 1: That and listen? Man, it ain't nothing but the goodness
Speaker 1: of God.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: Like I.
Speaker 3: Back in twenty twenty, me and my partner, we had
Speaker 3: the foundation called Gold Foundation, but we didn't have it
Speaker 3: at first.
Speaker 1: We just started We were just passing.
Speaker 3: Out these books by this minister by the name of
Speaker 3: Charles Keps called the Tongue Upgraded. Course they just speak
Speaker 3: about it breaks down in the spiritual aspect of speaking
Speaker 3: stuff into existence.
Speaker 1: So man, we just we went out.
Speaker 3: We was passing stuff out to the home that Steven
Speaker 3: the homeless when at her in the city in Memphis.
Speaker 3: And then man, I just start praying about it. Man,
Speaker 3: and God just led us to it. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, let us go back in them prisons.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's really how I started back in twenty twenty. But
Speaker 3: there wasn't number God though, Bro, because I would just
Speaker 3: talk to somebody earlier. I said, Man, stuff I be
Speaker 3: doing that. I said, you know, it's gotta be God,
Speaker 3: because sometimes I be going to prisons, I'd be tired,
Speaker 3: I'd be hungry. Yeah, I'll be ready to go to sleep,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm so, you know, but no, man, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I had to just say it was God. Let us
Speaker 3: to do it, me and my partner. Yeah, man, because
Speaker 3: I always tell people, man that being locked up sometimes, man,
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna say sometimes, but especially when you're really
Speaker 3: doing some time, I could imagined that's almost like being
Speaker 3: dead because everybody's good about you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Man, locked up and dead go straight together,
Speaker 1: everybody forget about Yeah.
Speaker 3: Always say you gotta forgive them people when you call home,
Speaker 3: be laying.
Speaker 1: Somebody gonna send the money, you know, somebody gonna come
Speaker 1: visit you. You know what I'm saying, I just be
Speaker 1: I'd be teenerful.
Speaker 3: But you gotta you gotta forgive them though, man, because
Speaker 3: you know, everybody in prison needs to be praying for
Speaker 3: a blessing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Oh, definitely.
Speaker 5: I think just just to be able to uh, just
Speaker 5: to be able to communicate with somebody back at home,
Speaker 5: you know, every weekend or whatever, give you a sense of,
Speaker 5: you know, having some kind of connection still, you feel me.
Speaker 1: That's what a lot of niggas tell me.
Speaker 5: Just to be able to listen to certain type of music,
Speaker 5: or even just be able to call home and get
Speaker 5: that acceptance or get that accepted phone call, or you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, and a lot of times niggas
Speaker 5: just be wanting to chop it up and you know,
Speaker 5: see what's going on, or so they can feel regularly,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, So they can feel not
Speaker 5: dead to the world.
Speaker 1: The definitely.
Speaker 3: When I got a homeboy right now, I used to
Speaker 3: wrap the boy him in my song. He was like
Speaker 3: my old g I looked up to the man. He
Speaker 3: got life centered right now. He just called me yes yesterday,
Speaker 3: and you know, I be sending them money. And when
Speaker 3: I go into prisons, I can't.
Speaker 1: They won't let me visit him. And he in Tennessee,
Speaker 1: so they.
Speaker 3: Won't let me visit him because of what I do.
Speaker 3: But when I go to the prison, I can keep
Speaker 3: it with him. I can go in there. I'm in
Speaker 3: there with him, you know what I'm saying. So he's saying, too, bro,
Speaker 3: because uh, y'all know how it is. You know, Oh,
Speaker 3: somebody you in the sandbox with and then you know
Speaker 3: they just happened, like I think, having like twenty twelve man,
Speaker 3: he been in there ever saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But I got other homeboys that's on death row man.
Speaker 1: Man. I went in to prison, seeing my speaking to
Speaker 1: the death row in Mason, Tennessee. Saw my boy. Man, Man,
Speaker 1: I couldn't evenly talk the good man almost.
Speaker 3: I'm most just about to cry, bro like, so this
Speaker 3: is this is my dude, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And he on that role, you know, he was you know,
Speaker 3: he was cool, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But it's just man, yeah, yeah, unfortunate that you know, sometimes, uh,
Speaker 5: the hood take us under to a certain point to
Speaker 5: what we can't climb about of that ship. And you know,
Speaker 5: like I said, I got I got my nigga in
Speaker 5: right now, and uh you know, so like I said,
Speaker 5: he called every week just to you know, just to
Speaker 5: chop it up with a nigga and ship, you know,
Speaker 5: just to see what's going on, just to feel like,
Speaker 5: you know, I still got some connection with people on
Speaker 5: the house and people who feel like, you know, or
Speaker 5: say they give a damn you get me. It just
Speaker 5: feel good to just have that person, you know, not
Speaker 5: and not necessarily you know what I'm saying. Some of
Speaker 5: the times it ain't about you know, sending me something
Speaker 5: like I just want to chop it up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I could I could
Speaker 1: have that connection still mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because people feel abandoned, man, they feel like God,
Speaker 3: that's what they feel abandoned.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not necessarily that you will put yourself in the
Speaker 5: same situation because you know, sometimes we fortunate enough to
Speaker 5: be able to do what we do and not have
Speaker 5: to take those channels. But like I said, some dudes can't.
Speaker 5: Some dudes can't escape that, you feel me, and that's
Speaker 5: what get them into the situation. So you know, not
Speaker 5: that not that motherfuckers are condoned what the actions is,
Speaker 5: but like you said, you steal my nigga, man, so
Speaker 5: it is what it is for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that you know.
Speaker 3: And I think, man, it gotta be personal with you man,
Speaker 3: because you did time yourself, are you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean you know you when you know you know
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 3: just like it's just like if you see a dude.
Speaker 3: Let's say, you see a dude.
Speaker 1: Get jacked, you know what I'm saying, But he ain't
Speaker 1: just no bad dude like that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But you know the dudes that's doing the jacket, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, right, So.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like you know, it's like, dang, man,
Speaker 3: I feel sorry for brother, because brother, I'm a monster,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Then you know, you you know,
Speaker 3: you'd be like man, y'all, shouldn't have done that, old
Speaker 3: boy like that, man y'all about him bad.
Speaker 1: They're like liter dup, you know.
Speaker 3: But it's just like you feel sorry for the victim,
Speaker 3: but you also feel sorry for the.
Speaker 1: Dude holding the gun.
Speaker 3: Now, I see a lot of folks can't relate to that,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people cry out for the victim,
Speaker 3: which is sad. But like I know, like dude right now,
Speaker 3: he kind of do a lot of bashing with certain
Speaker 3: certain people, go online and bash certain people with the people.
Speaker 3: But he's bashing be the people holding the gun. And
Speaker 3: so I get where he's from because I learned later
Speaker 3: he was a victim, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: he got a passion for that because he was a
Speaker 3: victim to it. Well, I got robbed before, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure everybody is been in
Speaker 3: the wood.
Speaker 1: Something happened to you. Shut it, shut it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know, but but but but I.
Speaker 3: Also was the dude behind the gun. So I know
Speaker 3: with both sides of it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And the thing is to sum it up. God love everybody.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like and it's like you
Speaker 1: said MC like, hey, you you said it. Like some
Speaker 1: people they be stuck, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: they don't understand.
Speaker 3: And and the thing is, you gotta be even. I
Speaker 3: used to always say that I got it from an
Speaker 3: old pimp. You gotta look at game all the way
Speaker 3: around the board, like you know, hey, man, this man
Speaker 3: is holding his gun in his man he thinks this
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you really think that
Speaker 1: now it ain't the way.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, yeah, he'll come right back
Speaker 3: kick it with you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Be your best friend. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But at the same time, that's
Speaker 1: how you get out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So you know, like I said, if you know you
Speaker 3: know it's experienced and you lived it, then you'll understand
Speaker 3: it better.
Speaker 1: If not, you're not gonna get it till they hit home.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Now, With that when you went and did and correct
Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong, brother, But when you got your
Speaker 3: first charge and you went in, whole hypnotized minds thing
Speaker 3: was just really starting to take off on the national level.
Speaker 1: My correct. It wasn't. No, it wasn't at first.
Speaker 3: When I went in, they they they the last year
Speaker 3: I was in, that's when they signed the deal and
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so kind of sort of what you're saying, kind
Speaker 3: of what you said. But when I went in, they
Speaker 3: were still underground and then they were dead signed it
Speaker 3: a year before I got out. Did that kind of
Speaker 3: motivate you? Kind of like, man, when you was in
Speaker 3: the just seeing the moves that they was making.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for definite. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I'm looking at the bag. I said,
Speaker 3: oh shoot, yeah, man, I can't wait to get out now,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: Of course, you want to be free. You don't want
Speaker 3: to do a day or there. But when I've seen that,
Speaker 3: I said, oh man, I'm done with this. I gotta
Speaker 3: go out here and get me some real money.
Speaker 1: Now. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that's the thing, man, because and they able
Speaker 3: to tell you this. Everybody that we talk to man.
Speaker 3: We deal with a lot of people in this and
Speaker 3: they always mention you when they talk about the upper
Speaker 3: extra mind against direct and I tell people, I think
Speaker 3: it's just a certain authenticity that you get from certain people,
Speaker 3: because you can tell when certain cats is just rapping
Speaker 3: versus you can't live some of the stuff that he
Speaker 3: talk about. Like when you listen to the stories that
Speaker 3: you may tell that you listen to the stories of
Speaker 3: an e or a scar face, you can kind of
Speaker 3: tell these people don't experience these things before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can tell, you can you can?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I always say the nanogy of
Speaker 3: a wolf nor you know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 3: can tell that it's don't shake or it ain't gonna
Speaker 3: shake you.
Speaker 1: You pretty much know mm hmm yeah.
Speaker 3: With you, because I know you at one end, after
Speaker 3: you at one n after you had just dropped one
Speaker 3: of your bigger ass you well, you dropped the project
Speaker 3: when you were in jail, and while I huh, I
Speaker 3: dropped the joint when I got out and I had
Speaker 3: a rod rock get out, then I dropped, Uh, I
Speaker 3: dropped the Uh. It's an underground tape. Are you talking
Speaker 3: about the underground tape.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, I dropped This is what happened.
Speaker 3: I got locked up on a robber, I got out,
Speaker 3: I got signed with Paul and Juice. Then I dropped
Speaker 3: the Underground tape. Before I dropped Getty Green, I was out.
Speaker 3: Then after I dropped Getty Green, I dropped Mister Don't Play.
Speaker 3: But in the midst of dropping Mister Don't Play, I
Speaker 3: had got locked up.
Speaker 1: For mister Don't Play came out. I had got and
Speaker 1: I got.
Speaker 3: Locked up in like seven months, and then I got
Speaker 3: back out and then that's when I did Laying SmackDown.
Speaker 1: But then when I wasn't they put they put a
Speaker 1: joint that's not called the appeal, that's not locked up
Speaker 1: because a nigga like me.
Speaker 5: You know, when I was putting out music, I was
Speaker 5: still you know, trying to even though I was still
Speaker 5: you know, affiliated to the to the streets. Uh, I
Speaker 5: didn't really much, uh give into the world of hip
Speaker 5: hop until maybe later on down the line, because even
Speaker 5: though I was putting our records and ship, I still
Speaker 5: wanted to be in the neighborhood every day.
Speaker 1: So, uh, how long did it take you to really go? Man?
Speaker 1: Let me stay out the hood and and really just
Speaker 1: focused on music.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Look really, when I got after Fad, that's what I did.
Speaker 1: I said, Nah, I can't, I can't. I can't be
Speaker 1: over there no more, I can't.
Speaker 5: Right it be calling you man, I mean the rap
Speaker 5: shit be okay, but if you still, if you, if
Speaker 5: you know you, you was true from the from the block.
Speaker 3: You like, man, I mean you be like that man,
Speaker 3: because especially I'm just I just keep it really. You know,
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of dudes don't, but I
Speaker 3: keep it real. Like you know, I did everything in
Speaker 3: the street. I never had no a lot of money
Speaker 3: in the street like that, you know. So when you
Speaker 3: get the wrap money and then you get there, get
Speaker 3: a car, that's just like the man that's in the hood.
Speaker 1: Now you get accepted, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then it's also it's it's the degree of full acceptance
Speaker 1: because they know you. You know what I'm saying, Like, man,
Speaker 1: we know you. So it's like man, you know and
Speaker 1: that stuff, swell your head up.
Speaker 3: It ain't number pride. It's just swear your head up
Speaker 3: bigger and bigger, and it's like you are really good,
Speaker 3: so you know you just it just be something.
Speaker 1: Man. I can't never say it's a bad feeling, because
Speaker 1: if I did, I be lying, right. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a good feeling, man.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: And then also when you able to.
Speaker 4: You know, man, you made it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know, you know where
Speaker 3: you come from. And then when you make it, then
Speaker 3: you be like, you be like ah like and people
Speaker 3: people like to see that. And I mean in a
Speaker 3: way it helps people out too, because.
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like, oh, gee, out watching you.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I said, well, shoot Brouh, I
Speaker 1: know he in the lood. I said, should Bruh made it?
Speaker 1: I can make it? You know what I'm saying exact. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a motivator for sure. Now, you know how you
Speaker 1: it's just like you give a square.
Speaker 3: Dude one hundred million dollars or you give a dope
Speaker 3: fiend a hundred pellion dollars, they gonna do something different
Speaker 3: with their money, you know. So it's like that with
Speaker 3: the fame thing. You know, you give a regular dude fame,
Speaker 3: a hood dude some fame. You know, it's just different.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you something man, And I'd be
Speaker 3: one hundred percent honest when I say this. Man, When
Speaker 3: I first ever got locked up in my life, I
Speaker 3: had my best friend. He was never in the streets
Speaker 3: of me.
Speaker 1: A man.
Speaker 3: You know, you get wrong, you shoot a pistol, but
Speaker 3: he wasn't never in the streets. And I used to
Speaker 3: always say to myself that I should have did like
Speaker 3: my boy man, I should have did. We got a
Speaker 3: job in colleor of the day. Man, I said that, bro,
Speaker 3: because I don't want to be.
Speaker 1: Here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Definitely, you stuff, you get the damn show thinking about
Speaker 5: your other choices when you first get them handcuff song
Speaker 5: and you throwing all shit, I can't bell out the
Speaker 5: chaarge just finna be I'm finna be sick and for
Speaker 5: a minute. So you really get to contemplation in your
Speaker 5: fucking choices.
Speaker 3: Look, especially when they judge told me thirty years that
Speaker 3: was my He said, that's the first off.
Speaker 1: But I said, huh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man. You know, man, you know, and when people
Speaker 3: get to talking like you know, like you were talking
Speaker 3: a minute, homie, you were talking about how supposed to
Speaker 3: be like you know, you know, you hear dudes, raps
Speaker 3: and you say, oh, man, yeah, he's just talking, you know.
Speaker 1: But see, you know I look at like this, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's entertainment, you know.
Speaker 3: But back in the time I grew up with the
Speaker 3: time right after like we got in, it was like
Speaker 3: right out like with NC eight after him, So it's like,
Speaker 3: you know eight like back in them days, though, gee,
Speaker 3: you had to be real, Like if it ain't real,
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna it's not gonna sell. This not gonna period.
Speaker 3: So you know, I mean it's a different time now,
Speaker 3: but you know, I don't knock it. I don't knock
Speaker 3: it because if you can make some money, you don't
Speaker 3: make your money.
Speaker 1: But I do look at it too.
Speaker 3: Like now, in the rap game, it's sad because you
Speaker 3: catch dudes that be really talented and be real dudes
Speaker 3: in the street and can make up and make a
Speaker 3: way for their homis and their family. They end up
Speaker 3: getting chilled before they even really get off.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's sad, bro, that's sad.
Speaker 3: But that's what I was gonna ask you, man, because
Speaker 3: Memphis is cracking right now.
Speaker 1: It's cracking. Ain't gonna lie, it's cracking. They cracked, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm talking about the positive way, because you know,
Speaker 3: you got a whole bunch of cats that kind of
Speaker 3: on picked up that man o that y'all. You know,
Speaker 3: set forth. But you got a lot of stuff they
Speaker 3: acted down there. Memphis is real active. We actually we
Speaker 3: was going come down there because I've been talking to
Speaker 3: your manager. We was actually come down there in person. Man.
Speaker 3: But I had a homeboy that got snatched out his
Speaker 3: car down there, and he was like, Man, I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna lie still you and they got a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff going on, man, But I recommend y'all, I come, man,
Speaker 3: it's dang just out here. I mean, I'm gonna keep
Speaker 3: it one hundred with you. We had now watched it.
Speaker 3: You can google it. We had more murders in LA
Speaker 3: last year. Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh I believe it now we did.
Speaker 3: So it's like for us to be, uh, we're a city,
Speaker 3: but it ain't nowhere near the size of the as
Speaker 3: not the second largest for that to be like that, man, Bro,
Speaker 3: it's so, it's so. But it's ignorant though. Bro, it's
Speaker 3: a lot of ignorance, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 3: and a lot of dudes down here, man, they just
Speaker 3: crying out for love. Bro crying out for love. I'm
Speaker 3: being one hundred with you. They crying out for love.
Speaker 3: And my day I had a real grandmothera nowadays, ain't
Speaker 3: no grand mamas. Grandmama smoking weed and popping pills with
Speaker 3: your grandson.
Speaker 1: It was born on in the city, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of times was different with with you know,
Speaker 5: situation man. And you know, like people, you know when
Speaker 5: you got when you got situations, when you got niggas
Speaker 5: from the hoods and whatever. Uh, they're always gonna be
Speaker 5: you know, times when motherfuckers get a little active. But uh,
Speaker 5: it seems like with the generation we in now proving
Speaker 5: your yo, your act well, you know, proven your active
Speaker 5: status has become way way high with with some of
Speaker 5: that the places outside of l A. If you ask me,
Speaker 5: you don't forgive me. And like I said, I've always
Speaker 5: preached that niggas has been hard all around the globe,
Speaker 5: you know, places Memphis, Atlanta, Chicago. You know, we got
Speaker 5: these places where dudes have always been active. But now
Speaker 5: that they have the platforms and uh and uh, you
Speaker 5: know I can get my music out and you know,
Speaker 5: the thieves have been steady with with young and upcoming
Speaker 5: dudes trying to uh you know, play state status and
Speaker 5: like you said, the infensives of place where we have
Speaker 5: seen that niggas have been on I Alert active status.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, they get down down here, I publish,
Speaker 3: you didn't. They don't no games be played.
Speaker 1: They steaked up out of here. Man, they steak. Hey,
Speaker 1: they gonna do it out there like they not gonna
Speaker 1: talk about it. They gonna do it. Hey.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you something. How big is the cripping
Speaker 3: blood influenced down there right now?
Speaker 1: Oh? Bro, it's huge. Oh it's huge down here. Bro,
Speaker 1: it's huge. It's gang laying down here.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 3: One thing about down here. They gonna care like where
Speaker 3: cobro They no hybrid, hybrid, don't have it.
Speaker 1: Don't rule down here. But rule is where you come from.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: May they acted, man? You know they get all the
Speaker 3: way down and you couldn't. You couldn't come here and
Speaker 3: somebody couldn't come here and say.
Speaker 1: You not this.
Speaker 5: I ain't hearing that, Oh no, I was just I
Speaker 5: was just speaking on that the other day, like when
Speaker 5: I grew up. Nigga, you can't what do you mean
Speaker 5: you ain't from nowhere? Motherfucker where you live at? Oh,
Speaker 5: then then you affiliated with them over there.
Speaker 1: So I get it, Like, you can't.
Speaker 5: Come down here talking about you ain't from nowhere, Nigga,
Speaker 5: You from somewhere, and and that's the way we're gonna
Speaker 5: get our status up, Nigga. We gonna get you motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the young dudes. No, man, it's like you said,
Speaker 1: it ain't about the money. It's about who did you shoot.
Speaker 5: It's about the status like that status, man is every
Speaker 5: day I'm telling that some niggas in the hood don't
Speaker 5: make money. It's it's it's not fair for take they
Speaker 5: motherfucking they claim the fame is.
Speaker 1: Nigga, I'm whipped this pistol out and shoot.
Speaker 5: At your ass and shoot any motherfucker like used to
Speaker 5: say back in the days.
Speaker 1: You know, we used to try to have a cold.
Speaker 5: You give me like you don't shoot no mamas, you
Speaker 5: don't shoot no kids or shit like that. Niggas don't
Speaker 5: have a cold today. Nigga'm'a whip this motherfucking thing out.
Speaker 1: Nigga.
Speaker 5: I'm a i'm a I'm gonna step on anything that's
Speaker 5: in front of me. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: Remember women and miss said old say. He said, I'm
Speaker 1: killing kids, Mama, I don't care who else. I'm exactly.
Speaker 5: That's the mentality that our young homies got today. There
Speaker 5: is no cold I'm gonna try. If I'm whipped it out,
Speaker 5: it's gonna go at any and everybody.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. Then I'm gonna get on.
Speaker 5: Then I'm gonna turn around to make a record about
Speaker 5: it and then actually talk about it, because that's the
Speaker 5: way we're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's show how they moved too. Boy, they
Speaker 3: put it all on. They let you know and don't care.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get on this record. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 3: what kind of pistol it was us who did the shooting,
Speaker 3: how we shot him, and where the nigga fell at.
Speaker 5: I don't give look murder weapon in the video, claim
Speaker 5: the fame ball because when they come, they gonna come.
Speaker 5: And when they come, nigga, I'm gonna nigga, I'm Billy
Speaker 5: the kid nigga. I'm gonna claim the same on that nigga.
Speaker 1: Yep, we did it.
Speaker 5: Nigga, Young Tou Tou in jail right now for spraying
Speaker 5: the nigga and we love him.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you something too. It's crazy down here.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you see down here, you get a O
Speaker 3: g hes gonna be about twenty six, so he gonna
Speaker 3: have he gonna have out, but he gonna have about
Speaker 3: forty shootings and when he points all forty of them,
Speaker 3: keep up thirty to one hundred rounds and he's drown.
Speaker 3: They're all gonna shoot, bro, that's how it going.
Speaker 1: The witch. Oh what this was?
Speaker 3: That's like Look, that's like bubble Gune. That's like bubble ghon.
Speaker 3: That's like Bubbam, that's like bubble gun. You didn't get
Speaker 3: the sweets like you're playing.
Speaker 1: You have to wait like you got to wait. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I said, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: You see, like niggas be niggas be hoping to get
Speaker 5: to that, you know, forties and fifties with old status.
Speaker 1: And like you said, this nigga's.
Speaker 5: Twenty five, twenty six, who already claiming O G This
Speaker 5: nigga from from the age from the age of T
Speaker 5: and E lamping Nigga. I've been active and been putting
Speaker 5: them work. So shit, nigga, I got a gang of
Speaker 5: them on me. So now you're gonna have the young
Speaker 5: home because you still the mentality is still young. So
Speaker 5: now get guess what the fourteen and fifteen and the
Speaker 5: nineteen year old is gonna be doing. Niggas, Their mentality
Speaker 5: is gonna be harder because you definitely have the twenty
Speaker 5: five twenty six year old nigga with a gang of
Speaker 5: shots already on you. You gonna be your mentality is
Speaker 5: gonna be nigga.
Speaker 1: Everybody active.
Speaker 5: Really, you got no word, You got no words of
Speaker 5: wisdom for a nigga at twenty five twenty six, you getting.
Speaker 1: I got no word for wisdom nigga, not not in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: You know, no, no, no no way, you got no
Speaker 5: word to wear nigga nigga twenty five twenty six, and
Speaker 5: he the nigga that motherfuckers is looking up to. So nigga,
Speaker 5: if I'm fifteen sixteen nigga, damn nigga, I'm spinnna be
Speaker 5: just just crazy, stupid with it and no hope for nothing.
Speaker 1: Nigga.
Speaker 5: Let me go in the studio write a rap about
Speaker 5: somebody who we done blasted on. And now nigga, I
Speaker 5: got I got, I'll look at I'll get look at
Speaker 5: real good to the homies. Because if I can hold
Speaker 5: the tool, nigga, if I could hold a mic and
Speaker 5: a strap, nigga's over.
Speaker 1: Wait.
Speaker 3: The one thing about it today in the society we
Speaker 3: in the day, these kids don't care about actual money.
Speaker 3: They care about social currency.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: So they care about social currency. Am I popping in
Speaker 3: the hood? Yeah, and my fear and my respected They
Speaker 3: don't care about money. See, you gotta remember we all
Speaker 3: a certain age, or there's everybody on the screen, in
Speaker 3: a certain age. We always cared about the money, the
Speaker 3: actual bank roll, if the pride was having a big,
Speaker 3: big bank roll in your pocket. Now they care about
Speaker 3: how many views they got, how many likes they got,
Speaker 3: how many followers they got.
Speaker 1: They don't give a damn about no money. I ain't
Speaker 1: tripping on no money.
Speaker 3: Nor Like I heard a young dude tell my partner,
Speaker 3: he said that what they do now, He said, if
Speaker 3: you're eighteen, they'll mrk. Somebody go do ten flat because
Speaker 3: down here, I don't know y'all know this night ten
Speaker 3: See you catch an aggravated charge and you get twenty thirty,
Speaker 3: it's one hundred percent. You're doing it all every bit
Speaker 3: I'm talking about you, every bit of us. So so
Speaker 3: it's like this is like if they get ten, they'll
Speaker 3: do their teens.
Speaker 1: They cool with that. They say, I'm good with that.
Speaker 1: I did my ten. I showed them, no, I'm bam.
Speaker 1: He got murdered. I did ten. I'm out. I'm good.
Speaker 1: They cool with it. They ain't tripping on that at all.
Speaker 3: But see, you got down here, it's about juvenile fifteen fourteen,
Speaker 3: and man, they getting.
Speaker 1: Right back out, right back out. Well, yeah, you go
Speaker 1: in at fifteen sixteen, nigga U ten shit you shit?
Speaker 1: You coming out niggas with og status?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the juveniles they tell me, They said, yeah, the status.
Speaker 3: That's all it is about the status. Juveniles tell me,
Speaker 3: they said.
Speaker 1: So I asked him.
Speaker 3: I said, so when y'all get out, y'all fifteen, y'all eighteen,
Speaker 3: y'all get out, can y'all go better?
Speaker 1: Gun? They said they still can go get a gun
Speaker 1: down here? I said, for really, they say they can?
Speaker 3: They say they cool. They said they never get a
Speaker 3: door still. I said, why, it's it's different, man. You
Speaker 3: know down here you could be eighteen. You don't have
Speaker 3: to have no class or none of that. You just
Speaker 3: go buy you a pistol. It's good. That's how they
Speaker 3: get out in the South. You know, out here in California,
Speaker 3: it's almost overly strict, right because you got to go
Speaker 3: through some stuff to go get a pistol. But then
Speaker 3: in a way, they because they got a cooling down period.
Speaker 3: I'm a dude to collect guns, right, So it's a
Speaker 3: cooling down period. Like if I go buy a carbeen today,
Speaker 3: I got to wait thirty days before I go buy
Speaker 3: another pistol. And they got a two week cooling down period.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't do that here. You can walk in
Speaker 1: there buy three pot bean and then next week go
Speaker 1: back three more.
Speaker 4: Mmm.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 3: And I'm all about I'm all about that Second Amendment, man,
Speaker 3: because I think it's important, you know, but you know,
Speaker 3: I think it's very important.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: I think they you know what, man, I'm what I'm
Speaker 3: starting to see, Man, I think a lot of this
Speaker 3: stuff is done on purpose, man, is done purposely. I
Speaker 3: think it's done purposely because if you notice, our communities
Speaker 3: are the ones that are impacted the most by gun violence.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 1: Off for sure, that's the show for shows.
Speaker 3: Because I know it was the one time. You know,
Speaker 3: just in talking to some of the older homies from Compton,
Speaker 3: they you know, some of the older you know, some
Speaker 3: of the real ogs ogs. They was telling me, Man,
Speaker 3: it was a time they would have trains on the
Speaker 3: train track with just carts for the weapons in them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they do down here. They always robbing
Speaker 1: the train down here.
Speaker 4: Always.
Speaker 1: Oh that's always down there with the military train. Talking
Speaker 1: about in my days, though, it wasn't hard to get
Speaker 1: a pistol, whether it was legal or illegal. I you know,
Speaker 1: I've known or we've had several pistols. I mean that
Speaker 1: was shit. I mean.
Speaker 5: You didn't have a pistol, you was riding around in
Speaker 5: the city. You was probably dumb as fuck. I think
Speaker 5: I think the mentality we had was fuck it. I
Speaker 5: rather get caught with it and without it. You get me,
Speaker 5: because I know, in my uh, you know, days of
Speaker 5: Roman shit, I carried a pistol all the fucking time,
Speaker 5: and I didn't give a fuck if I had a
Speaker 5: case or two, I'm still carrying a fucking pistol because
Speaker 5: when you in the settings and the motherfucking facility of
Speaker 5: activity and every motherfucking game in the city is active,
Speaker 5: and you already got a fifty percent chance of not
Speaker 5: making it because half the city is crips and half
Speaker 5: the city is bloods. You getting me, then you're knocking
Speaker 5: down another twenty five percent because half of.
Speaker 1: The crypts might be you get so shit you got carrying.
Speaker 5: The fucking pistol. Then you basically acting to get hit
Speaker 5: or jacked or whatever. So we had the mentality of, like,
Speaker 5: fuck that if police bought me over, I got a
Speaker 5: strip under the seat. Oh wall, I'm going to jail tonight.
Speaker 5: You know it was it was just that you get
Speaker 5: it because it was too active. And like I said,
Speaker 5: them odds is not very good. When you game banging
Speaker 5: and ship, you got a twenty five to maybe twenty
Speaker 5: maybe ten to twenty five percent chance of making it
Speaker 5: through the day, right, I said.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 5: Your living rate, when you living in the city of activity,
Speaker 5: you got maybe a ten to twenty percent chance, twenty
Speaker 5: five percent chance of making it through the day. You
Speaker 5: gotta get you something that you gotta go, get something
Speaker 5: to eat. Some niggas want to go shopping. Some niggas
Speaker 5: you got to go to the gas station. Motherfucking got
Speaker 5: to go, you know. And in our days there wasn't this,
Speaker 5: uh you know, this fucking relaxation of having the internet
Speaker 5: to where I could just go on the phone and
Speaker 5: pay all my bills and do all lift it or
Speaker 5: you know, now I can pick and choose what gas
Speaker 5: station I can go stop at or whatever.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 5: Shit living in the land, nigga, there is nothing. You
Speaker 5: gotta go pay your bills. You gotta go to the
Speaker 5: liquor store. You gotta go get your smoke or your gear.
Speaker 5: You want to go pull up somewhere at the burger
Speaker 5: stand to eat or whatever. So your champs of living
Speaker 5: each day is making ten to twenty five percent.
Speaker 1: You get me so right there and the fat.
Speaker 3: I was just at the Homies barbecue spot. I didn't
Speaker 3: tell you, but before we went to Atlanta, I was
Speaker 3: at the Homies barbecue spot. And it happened just that quick.
Speaker 3: I heard some kids across the street. You know, I've
Speaker 3: got the park across the street from where they be at.
Speaker 3: And I heard somebody say, what's happening.
Speaker 1: Now, because.
Speaker 4: And he's dead.
Speaker 3: That tricked my wife out. But I just got my barbecue,
Speaker 3: you know, I had my pistol with me. I got
Speaker 3: my barbecue and just dropped back to the truck. You know,
Speaker 3: everybody kind of paused when it happened, but it wasn't
Speaker 3: though it used to be pile pound.
Speaker 1: That ship was prime. Oh yeah. The next thing you know,
Speaker 1: the dude is laying over there, his arm.
Speaker 3: You can see the dude's arm over here, the dude's
Speaker 3: hands in the street. My wife, that really bothered her
Speaker 3: because she was in the car and saw the whole thing,
Speaker 3: and she crying and stuff.
Speaker 1: And she asked me, she said, how's this just so
Speaker 1: regular to you? Why would like this don't bother you?
Speaker 3: And I said, man, that's just they don't go on
Speaker 3: like that. Are it happened so click? You can really
Speaker 3: lose your life, man. And the thing is with these
Speaker 3: guns that they making the day, with these switches, these
Speaker 3: kids don't they don't know how to.
Speaker 1: Shoot in the first place. They don't have control over
Speaker 1: these weapons.
Speaker 3: Man. So everybody oftentimes getting hit that they ain't got
Speaker 3: nothing to do with nothing, and these little dudes is
Speaker 3: not given a damn.
Speaker 1: Saying bro, like, the cold is different, said.
Speaker 5: Uh, like, like you said today, the cold is different
Speaker 5: because the cold is recognition. Like you said, the cold
Speaker 5: is clicks and likes, and you know and and who
Speaker 5: can see more popular as far as the age of
Speaker 5: social media goes, A lot of a lot of youngsters
Speaker 5: you know who don't have you know, because like I said,
Speaker 5: as a chy it, I once had dreams of being
Speaker 5: shit different.
Speaker 4: You get me.
Speaker 5: I didn't grow up dreaming I wanted to be Scarface
Speaker 5: or nobody like that. But as you you know, as
Speaker 5: your influences turned because of where you grow up from.
Speaker 1: You know, you you start having different uh, the different
Speaker 1: roles to take. Now, we still had dreams of becoming
Speaker 1: something normal. Just look at it to the rap game.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 5: The youngsters don't have no I don't think you know
Speaker 5: a lot of a lot of them who grow up
Speaker 5: in the situations like we grew up in. I don't
Speaker 5: think they'll have a lot of dreams or aspirations. And
Speaker 5: when the popularity is to be.
Speaker 1: You know, a hard nigga from the block.
Speaker 5: Uh, your aspirations and dreams turn the different ship. You know,
Speaker 5: if I could be known as the nigga who always
Speaker 5: you know, getting into it, or I'm the rough rider nigga,
Speaker 5: or I'm a nigga that's always blasting on that nigga
Speaker 5: that gets you a.
Speaker 1: Different kind of acceptance and around the neighborhood. You feel me, you.
Speaker 5: Get you don't want to be you know, good with
Speaker 5: the nigga who's known for pulling and drawing and busting
Speaker 5: on niggas and jack and niggas and whatever.
Speaker 1: Whatever. You get me, so your popularity rises as a
Speaker 1: youngster with that type of ship on you. That's real,
Speaker 1: that's super real. Yeah they are.
Speaker 3: Now, that's that's what they that's what they're going for.
Speaker 3: It's like you said, like, it's no aspiration, it's no dreams,
Speaker 3: it's no won to have nothing. It's just even even
Speaker 3: bro it even be like that, like when they approach
Speaker 3: the rap game. They don't look at no work in
Speaker 3: the game. They just say, I'm gonna make a song,
Speaker 3: blow up and get all the money. Yeah, be in
Speaker 3: a studio smoking all day and just get money.
Speaker 1: I mean them.
Speaker 5: Then My records are basically about my aggression in the
Speaker 5: hood and who I want to hear that, and who
Speaker 5: I want to jump on and who I want to
Speaker 5: kill and nigga niggas from mishood or if you any
Speaker 5: of whose niggas from the street.
Speaker 1: We got beef with you niggas, and we go. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of that going on now.
Speaker 5: And like I said, doctors say that niggas didn't have
Speaker 5: a beast or this has been rap, I mean, because
Speaker 5: we seeing that going right now. But it's a different
Speaker 5: it's a different aspect. When it's neighborhood, it orientated. You
Speaker 5: get me, U, and a lot of that is in
Speaker 5: in the A lot of that is in some of
Speaker 5: the youngster shit you get me. A lot of them
Speaker 5: is just want to stand up for their neighborhoods, show
Speaker 5: you where they from, and nigga would kill anything.
Speaker 1: Moving if you're from over the ship. And that's how
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna rap about. We're gonna rap about it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: We ain't gonna rap about the appoint or niggas over
Speaker 5: there and poverty and were just trying to make some
Speaker 5: money to get out and we need to do this
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 1: Nigga, we're gonna rap about. Nigga. We the hardest niggers.
Speaker 5: Nigga will light you up and watch these switches come
Speaker 5: through and Nigga, we just and we go. And if
Speaker 5: you from over there, nigga, you might get smoked tonight.
Speaker 5: And then we're gonna name a couple of your homiess
Speaker 5: that got killed. That's how we're gonna do it today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's dang. Go over. I'm thinking about nothing but
Speaker 1: what you're thinking about. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: bet that way.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, that you ain't thinking about
Speaker 3: nothing but what you're thinking about. But you know it's
Speaker 3: sad though, man. But a lot of dudes, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you something. A lot of dudes that you see
Speaker 3: with the tents on their face, and a lot of.
Speaker 1: Dudes that be any for real and deep deep in it. Man,
Speaker 1: they just looking for love, bro, and they never got none.
Speaker 1: They had no chance to have no love.
Speaker 3: And they looking at it like I see a man
Speaker 3: want to be a appreciate it in the sense of
Speaker 3: a man's weight, you know what I'm saying. And if
Speaker 3: I'm a kid and I never had a daddy. My
Speaker 3: daddy he an ex gang member and he locked up.
Speaker 3: And then my mom she she's smoking weed with my
Speaker 3: O G and snick having sex with her. I mean
Speaker 3: you think in your mind this is life, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So you never experienced, you know, especially not I go
Speaker 6: eat deeper with it when mama boyfriend the slick touched
Speaker 6: you or something when you were six.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we ain't talking. Girls were talking dudes. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And this is what you be seeing when you be
Speaker 3: you know, seeing these little guys out here, and a
Speaker 3: lot of times, man, you know, it's them crying out
Speaker 3: like I'm a man.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, let them crying out saying, look, man,
Speaker 4: I'm a man.
Speaker 3: So they see the men that they look up to
Speaker 3: doing it like you know, twenty five twenty they moving
Speaker 3: like that, so they think that's what's up, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And then it's like the acceptance, the
Speaker 3: acceptance of hey man, I got somebody man out here
Speaker 3: that's messing with me for real, like calling me a
Speaker 3: brother man. And you know, especially in you, you got
Speaker 3: a lot of dudes that grow up in the house
Speaker 3: with number of women, and man, when they get out here,
Speaker 3: they that's how it be, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And it's no, it's no guidance. It's nobody showing them.
Speaker 3: Hey bro, you ain't got to kill nobody.
Speaker 4: Bro, you need to do this. You need to do that.
Speaker 3: He don't know that, you know what I'm saying, He
Speaker 3: don't know nothing about that like he you know, and
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure like you said, you had dreams aspirations. Man,
Speaker 3: meet us as well. When you look at folks, you'd
Speaker 3: be like the young dudes. Man, they not all crazy
Speaker 3: like everybody. They do crazy stuff, Maten, talk to them.
Speaker 3: They're not slow, they not dumb. Lot of'em be smart.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna give you a good scenario. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: show you something. When I was a kid, I was smart.
Speaker 3: I had a mama, I had a daddy.
Speaker 1: I was smart.
Speaker 3: A lot of my people around me, my dudes around me,
Speaker 3: and my homework, they was They was real slowly, mumbos,
Speaker 3: was on crack and all that.
Speaker 4: So I used to dummy myself down to be cool
Speaker 4: with them. In a sense of this.
Speaker 3: They wanted to be cool with me regardless, but I
Speaker 3: used to dumby myself down because it was like I
Speaker 3: knew they didn't understand. You know, you want to get
Speaker 3: to seem like you were too smart, because if you
Speaker 3: if you're too smart, it's like you don't fit in.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You the fucking you, the hodball, you, the eyeball, the
Speaker 3: smart dumby myself down on they level so that they
Speaker 3: could so that they could understand and accept me at
Speaker 3: the same time this real business.
Speaker 4: I did that. But I mean there and that's.
Speaker 5: That's crazy to say, because I think you know, like
Speaker 5: I said, my mom's wasn't a dope thing.
Speaker 1: She worked every day.
Speaker 5: My father worked in a General Motors plant for fucking
Speaker 5: thirty years. I chose to sell dope and get you
Speaker 5: get me because I wanted to be accepted amongst my
Speaker 5: peers on the block I was living on.
Speaker 3: You give me nothing had the good drub. One second,
Speaker 3: it wasn't preer pressure that made you do that. You
Speaker 3: wasn't pushed in it.
Speaker 4: This is what you chose.
Speaker 1: You just said that. You said he chose.
Speaker 4: And that's why a lot of people don't get to
Speaker 4: be thinking, oh man, you.
Speaker 1: Know that happens, but that's rare.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 1: You don't.
Speaker 3: You don't even want nobody around you that you're pushing
Speaker 3: into nothing. Really, especially back in our day. You gotta
Speaker 3: be you gotta be fuddies like you gotta be with this.
Speaker 1: You can't be.
Speaker 3: Like, what's what's what's what's that. Uh, boys in the hood,
Speaker 3: do let me out. But you never got in the car, no,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 5: I'm like that exactly like he don't. Damn well, he
Speaker 5: shouldn't have been in the car in the first place. You,
Speaker 5: Like you said, he wanted to dumb itself down for
Speaker 5: a minute and be like, well fuck that, yeah, man,
Speaker 5: give me a strapping. We finn to go ride on
Speaker 5: these niggas, and then the niggas sitting there, and he
Speaker 5: get to contemplating because first of all, I was raised
Speaker 5: by good parents.
Speaker 1: I was shown the right way. Both moms and pops worked.
Speaker 5: Okay, we wasn't fortunate enough to live in the better
Speaker 5: side of town because basically that's what a lot of
Speaker 5: black people had to go through, you know, moving moving
Speaker 5: from where, you know, moving from the south and trying
Speaker 5: to go or relocate or whatever.
Speaker 1: You still had to live like middle class for something.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 5: And our middle class was moving the place like content
Speaker 5: because you wasn't living in the fucking projects or some
Speaker 5: shit like that. But still you going to school or
Speaker 5: your block is infested with you know, the homies.
Speaker 4: Those are your friends, and like you said, they're they're.
Speaker 1: They're probably not as fortunate as you are. You get me.
Speaker 1: I got a bite.
Speaker 5: I got a bite for Christmas, I got toys. Some
Speaker 5: of my friends didn't get that as kids, but we
Speaker 5: still hung out every day. You get me, and those
Speaker 5: are the friends who you know, turn to the wicked
Speaker 5: evil side and like you said, do you know, cause, man,
Speaker 5: it's wrong to jack a nigga or stick a nigga up,
Speaker 5: or it's wrong to do that, but you still like
Speaker 5: ship these the niggas I'm with.
Speaker 1: This is my this is where I'm from. So fuck it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be from the hood. I'm not gonna be.
Speaker 5: No fucking positive ass role model, ass motherfucker. I'm goin
Speaker 5: to get me a sack of strap and I'm finna
Speaker 5: get the end of the block with the rest of
Speaker 5: the homies.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the.
Speaker 5: There is again you know those like you said, that's
Speaker 5: the choice that we that we made.
Speaker 1: Just like you. Still you came out here, you know,
Speaker 1: to play football. Niggas was like, nigga, you be from
Speaker 1: the hood, nigga, fucking you serving with us, you walking
Speaker 1: around with us, You gotta heat with us, So why
Speaker 1: not just be from the hood. But you made the
Speaker 1: choice to go. Now, I'm not gonna do that shit.
Speaker 1: Y'all still cool with me, y'all the homes and shit,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna make the choice. Because you know, you
Speaker 1: came you.
Speaker 5: You was fortunate that when you came from Cleveland, you
Speaker 5: didn't have to deal with the young pressures of niggas
Speaker 5: pressuring you or you feeling like you had to do
Speaker 5: that type of shit. You was already sent. You was
Speaker 5: already sent. You give me, y'all already said. Because I
Speaker 5: came out here at seventeen. I think it's seventeen.
Speaker 3: I believe the father moved out here at twelve or
Speaker 3: eleven or something like that.
Speaker 1: It probably have been different. But all I saw, man,
Speaker 1: when I came out here, I saw.
Speaker 3: The repercussions of certain stuff because at the time I
Speaker 3: came out here ate it was really active. It was
Speaker 3: a lot different than the deals. Now, people wasn't playing.
Speaker 3: It was repercussions. If you put your hands on somebody,
Speaker 3: it was a repercussion. If you stood on somebody blocked
Speaker 3: that wasn't yours and you was taking some money out
Speaker 3: of their pocket, they was gonna come and air it out.
Speaker 3: So it was certain repercussions, and I said, man, I'm
Speaker 3: not really trying to fool with this. And I wanted
Speaker 3: to say the biggest thing I see with these dudes,
Speaker 3: especially the dudes that I guess that you would call
Speaker 3: the gunners, A lot of those guys suffered from unresolved
Speaker 3: trauma like that mentioned earlier. They might have had to
Speaker 3: step down. That was touching on. They might beat on
Speaker 3: because a lot of them things and I'm finding it
Speaker 3: and I didn't find it.
Speaker 1: I got much older, A lot of them things that
Speaker 1: we call whoopings.
Speaker 3: Was abuse abuse, Yeah, and mom, swoll onoll.
Speaker 4: Yeah, great, I got.
Speaker 5: I got me a couple of whoopings, nigga, that to
Speaker 5: play with. If you need some fucked up ship you
Speaker 5: was getting whooped off. I don't give a fu Yeah, Mom,
Speaker 5: grab mono, grab well.
Speaker 1: The switches off the tree, nigga.
Speaker 5: You definitely going to school the next day with a
Speaker 5: couple of wheelps on your arms and all your legs.
Speaker 1: But nobody quested me at school and been like, hey,
Speaker 1: what happen with that home ship? They can tell the
Speaker 1: fuck in a bit. I got a whoop it that
Speaker 1: a ship? Okay?
Speaker 3: Then, man, just at the switches keep it at the shoes,
Speaker 3: at the at the extincsion cores, at the broad.
Speaker 1: Look at mom's and them wasn't p moms and unteasing
Speaker 1: them from my generation. They weren't playing with your ass.
Speaker 5: You catch a whooping in a minute and for something,
Speaker 5: I don't know what the fuck for, nigga, I'll get
Speaker 5: fuck nigga. You didn't do your homework at school, Nigga,
Speaker 5: I don't know. Your room wasn't clean. You you gave
Speaker 5: you you tried to talk back or something. You got
Speaker 5: your ass whop. I don't get You're gonna stay in line, nigga.
Speaker 5: You ain't finna be one of these crazy.
Speaker 1: Ass you know.
Speaker 5: But I said, you know, you grow up and then
Speaker 5: you start getting a little courage and then then whoopings
Speaker 5: don't really mean shit, no more so you. But yeah,
Speaker 5: we was disciplined with whoopings. Like you said, some of
Speaker 5: that shit might have been child abuse, but it wasn't.
Speaker 5: It was It wasn't froud to paul back then because
Speaker 5: that was the way all people. That was the way
Speaker 5: all people disciplined us when we did some fileshit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, a lot of us man
Speaker 3: had roots in the South right, because all my family
Speaker 3: on my brand, on my dad's is from Memphis.
Speaker 1: You lay from Orange mind, and they made their way
Speaker 1: up to Ohio.
Speaker 3: And I think that's how they got raised by their
Speaker 3: parents because my stepdaddy was from Mississippi. My stepdaddy was
Speaker 3: from Tupelo, Mississippi. And it's the way that he shows
Speaker 3: you he loved you was by making sure your ass
Speaker 3: had something to eat and were by making sure you
Speaker 3: had clothes on your back.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't no talking back.
Speaker 3: If you talk back, you was gonna fill his rapt
Speaker 3: Even as far as him going to pull that little
Speaker 3: duke's juice out on your ass when you got a
Speaker 3: little bit bigger and thought you had some nuts, he
Speaker 3: still on your ass and say, hey, listen, you.
Speaker 1: Go respect me in my household. So that was his
Speaker 1: main thing. Respect.
Speaker 3: And like Pat, I think you doing some good stuff
Speaker 3: man down there with the community. But I want to
Speaker 3: talk to you a little bit about this rap stuff.
Speaker 1: Man. We are against the rap chronicles. Man.
Speaker 3: And one of the biggest debates I always had with
Speaker 3: people is because your style is really rich.
Speaker 1: No, who is your influence man? Who is your info? Ones?
Speaker 4: Man? Really be honest with you. Who I used to
Speaker 4: listen to was like like NWA scyt face, too short, MCA.
Speaker 3: Like dad and I, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 3: I and I and I really listened to like ghetto
Speaker 3: boys and and Willie D. But far as the style,
Speaker 3: you know, Like I came up out of Memphis right
Speaker 3: after a ball mj G. So I used to listen
Speaker 3: to a ball and I'm like and I used to
Speaker 3: be like, I ain't balling them a super hard, you know.
Speaker 1: And my brother, Juicy J.
Speaker 3: My brother, he used to always like tell me, like, man,
Speaker 3: you gotta come with like a different style. So I
Speaker 3: just sat back and I just would just come up
Speaker 3: with stuff I would just because like I grew up
Speaker 3: around dudes who was like always talking slick, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like like uh, you know, like Pimpson,
Speaker 3: you know, little slick dudes. There was around pimps, and
Speaker 3: they used to be like, you know, pimp player, baby layer.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you know, uh, you know
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So I would take what I heard
Speaker 3: and I would just say, oh and I make it
Speaker 3: a style. Like I say, like I hear something and
Speaker 3: I make it a style and then I got so
Speaker 3: I really got so good at it that man. I
Speaker 3: used to listen to a lot of Tupac, a lot
Speaker 3: of Tupac, like when Tupac had them underground tape, some
Speaker 3: underground CDs, and I used to go to LA and
Speaker 3: when I they was only like mainly sold in LA
Speaker 3: because they wasn't in Memphis or they wasn't another places
Speaker 3: where I used to go. So when I used to
Speaker 3: be in l A, I used to always find a
Speaker 3: person on the street corner sending them CDs. And I
Speaker 3: used to buy every I used to give me, give me,
Speaker 3: give me all the bottles you got, give me all
Speaker 3: of them. And I used to take that and I
Speaker 3: used to listen to them styles and I used to
Speaker 3: flip them around. So it's just like man, I just
Speaker 3: and I just came up with that style. And when
Speaker 3: I first did that, that little panto style I had,
Speaker 3: it was on this song don't called Wanna Bees with
Speaker 3: three Season Market and uh it was.
Speaker 4: I did it on Getty Green. I did it on
Speaker 4: Getty Green.
Speaker 3: And then it was this this song called Wanna Bees
Speaker 3: that they had out and when they when they Wanna
Speaker 3: Bees came in, I said the hook I had made
Speaker 3: the hook up and then I wrapped h I think
Speaker 3: I rapped last on there, and I just came with
Speaker 3: that be y'all play up like me. And I kept
Speaker 3: coming with that, and then like people was like really
Speaker 3: liking it when we was like at the shows, you
Speaker 3: could see that people would turn up when their style
Speaker 3: would come in. And so when I did it, I said,
Speaker 3: you know what, I said, I'm gone. I said, I'm
Speaker 3: gone and roll with that. So I just I said,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make that like, uh, I'm gonna put that in.
Speaker 3: I don't want to put in everything, but I said,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna burn it up. But I said, and that's
Speaker 3: really probably the reason why one of the reasons why
Speaker 3: it's still standing to be because I.
Speaker 1: Ain't burn it up, like I ain't put it in everything.
Speaker 3: So then I had to start coming with all different
Speaker 3: kinds of styles like then one thing about like down
Speaker 3: South like but we used to hear like like down
Speaker 3: South at that time. Our our songs, we had to
Speaker 3: flow like you had to flow on the song. You
Speaker 3: had to stay with the beat and flow. So I
Speaker 3: used to have to like.
Speaker 4: To come in, come out, come in, come out like
Speaker 4: we had to do that, whereas like East Coast, they
Speaker 4: beach was like like hop and skipping, like.
Speaker 3: See we see to us, that was easy to us,
Speaker 3: that's easy. That's like that's too easy. So we we
Speaker 3: we so we had to make a float with it.
Speaker 3: So like everybody used to be like then I said,
Speaker 3: see that's how that's it. And see like when we
Speaker 3: do it, we just once we catch the flow, like.
Speaker 4: It ain't hard.
Speaker 3: You got here to be, once you're here to beat,
Speaker 3: you just jump in. We jump right into it and
Speaker 3: just get the flowing with it and then get to
Speaker 3: come in and like you know, partlem with they make
Speaker 3: the beach like slow up, change up. Then we'll slow
Speaker 3: the rap, change the wrap around, flip you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and still be talking about what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, we just it's just a way
Speaker 3: we called on to it. But that's how like when
Speaker 3: I when I did it, I had said I'm not
Speaker 3: to come with like different styles because that's what my
Speaker 3: brother he he he gave me it.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm about to come different.
Speaker 3: Because that's the only way you're gonna stand out if
Speaker 3: you're different, you know, and yeah, you gotta be different,
Speaker 3: like if you like I'm ain't, I ain't saying this
Speaker 3: like you know uh uh uh by m C eight.
Speaker 3: But like when I first heard mc A, m c
Speaker 3: A was totally different. That's what made me like him
Speaker 3: so much because I was just like, man, who is
Speaker 3: this dude? Repend mad, rep real slow and his voice deep,
Speaker 3: he dog, he talking, he talking some.
Speaker 4: Goods way, what do you want to dude?
Speaker 3: And they just made he just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He just to me, he stood out, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And when you do that, you stand out.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Right, you gotta do something distinctive and not just be
Speaker 5: along with everybody else's ship, because you know, rap at
Speaker 5: one time everybody was trying to you know, and they
Speaker 5: still do it today, motherfuckers to jump on one ship
Speaker 5: and everybody want to do it. You give me because
Speaker 5: they see it as the they see it as the
Speaker 5: dollar sign ship. You give me, Oh well he need
Speaker 5: so let me get me exactly the way.
Speaker 1: But now.
Speaker 5: Your own and and you know, people know it's you
Speaker 5: as soon as you put a record on. Motherfuckers go
Speaker 5: oh yeah, man, I know who that is. That's my ship.
Speaker 5: So that's that's where you you know, you kind of
Speaker 5: win that, you know in this hip hop game when
Speaker 5: you can be yourself, you feel me and not have
Speaker 5: to be what everybody.
Speaker 1: Else is doing.
Speaker 3: In fact, yeah for real, And I'm really into lyricism.
Speaker 3: You've been killing them features dog. I was just telling
Speaker 3: the Homely Glasses a loan that we was talking. I said, man,
Speaker 3: you know Project Pact being getting on these records lately
Speaker 3: and really been gassed.
Speaker 4: Hey man, think better man. You can't let no better
Speaker 4: do you. Man, you gotta go.
Speaker 3: You gotta be a work potential, always good man ship.
Speaker 3: So it is you can't like I can't come behind
Speaker 3: no m c A versus on a little something. I
Speaker 3: gotta pull the I gotta pull the whole, fit the round,
Speaker 3: hunting around drum bat man. I got to go, bro,
Speaker 3: I can't I need a flamethrow. I can't a missile.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 5: Don't to me when you don't, like you said, when
Speaker 5: you don't burn yourself out or when you don't burn
Speaker 5: your ship out, you able to do that on a
Speaker 5: lot of ship you get me. You could pull some
Speaker 5: ship up out like niggas be like, damn, where the
Speaker 5: fuck that ship come for? That nigga was gasing on
Speaker 5: some ship.
Speaker 1: I feel like.
Speaker 5: When you don't make yourself, when you don't make yourself
Speaker 5: accessible to everybody, you feel me because you know, you
Speaker 5: get a lot of motherfuckers hit you up. They won't
Speaker 5: your style and want your ship on their on their records,
Speaker 5: and sometimes you got to pass on a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: But that's that's why I tell Stell.
Speaker 5: You know, you make yourself not accessible to everybody, that's
Speaker 5: what a lot of motherfuckers want to fuck with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know you.
Speaker 3: Huh You ever had one of those moments pat to
Speaker 3: where you just gassed on somebody so bad they record
Speaker 3: that they wound up not putting it out. Oh man,
Speaker 3: it's it's ain't. I ain't being like it's going on.
Speaker 3: It's somebody. I mean, I told my cool and I said, man,
Speaker 3: bro gonna put he probably gonna, I said, be putting.
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna have to go back and change verse.
Speaker 3: I burnt him. And it's the crazy part. I don't
Speaker 3: even think I heard his verse. I don't think I
Speaker 3: heard his verse. Something tells about me man like rep
Speaker 3: too easy, bro, Like I don't even look at it
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: I just go in, like I just go.
Speaker 3: That's my whole thing is just go in, like don't
Speaker 3: even don't even think. I don't want to hear you
Speaker 3: what you did. I don't care to me to be
Speaker 3: let me go first. If you start off, I don't care.
Speaker 3: I don't care because to me, it's too easy to do.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And you know, and I mean man like like like
Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you something like like you right about
Speaker 3: making yourself accessible because you was on that you was
Speaker 3: on that one they kench Lamar that jone when he
Speaker 3: had dropped And when I see MG was on there,
Speaker 3: I said hate on here. See because because I hadn't
Speaker 3: heard eight in a minute, I said hate on here
Speaker 3: so I would listen. I said, oh man, you keep
Speaker 3: that joint. You in on that joint, but you came
Speaker 3: just like you come. And I was like, yeah, but nah,
Speaker 3: that's real though, bro, like in the game, like like
Speaker 3: you can't burn yourself up and you can't, uh, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, you know with money on the tape, you
Speaker 3: gotta get the money, you know, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: but you don't want to. You definitely don't want to
Speaker 3: burn yourself up. Like like you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: I know people do that, and when you do do that,
Speaker 3: you don't have a long run. Your run ain't gonna
Speaker 3: be that long, cause it's gonna be like man, dude,
Speaker 3: got forty joints like I.
Speaker 4: I just listen to them all joints like I already heard,
Speaker 4: like you know, yeah, you don't wanna burn yourself out.
Speaker 1: But I repetitious. I tell y'all this right here though, bro,
Speaker 1: Like I kind of as a real blessing.
Speaker 3: People asked me and said, man, how y'all because people
Speaker 3: be simplingized stuff, redoing our stuff, the styles all that.
Speaker 4: Bro, I never seen that coming to one hundred million years.
Speaker 4: I've never seen that coming. And my whole thing, I
Speaker 4: never saw it.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: I just I just was like, I just I just
Speaker 4: did what I did. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I spoke on what I spoke on, I spoke about
Speaker 3: what I knew, and I just said, man, you know,
Speaker 3: and you know, people say, hell long, y'all think y'all
Speaker 3: just gonna go out someding. We just gonna ride into
Speaker 3: the gas ride out, and then you know when the
Speaker 3: gas ride out, then that's that on that, you know.
Speaker 3: But bro, it was just wild because I was just in.
Speaker 3: I was just in I was just in Chicago. I
Speaker 3: was just in Lance in Michigan.
Speaker 1: I was just in UH.
Speaker 4: I was just in Hampton, Virginia. I was just in
Speaker 4: d c uh Hampton, Virginia, DC last weekend and.
Speaker 3: May was sold out. Every last one was sold out.
Speaker 3: It really baffles me. Man, I'd be saying it's gotta
Speaker 3: be a blessing from the Lord because I said, bro,
Speaker 3: because I was doing these sames.
Speaker 4: I'm talking the money.
Speaker 3: The money then shot all the way up like it's
Speaker 3: like now, it's like people want to hear like the
Speaker 3: older stuff.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, hey, man, look I just take it
Speaker 4: as it come. If y'all have what you want, cool,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, cheese and dope is my ship.
Speaker 4: Are you messed with that?
Speaker 3: I've messed with cheese and dope. I've messed with a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of stuff because I'm in the styles. I
Speaker 3: don't like people like if I hear somebody in the
Speaker 3: fake trying to sound like m C eight or fake trying.
Speaker 1: To I can't mess with it. I can't do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah I could brom gonna keep wanting. I definitely could.
Speaker 3: I don't like I like to hear it, not even
Speaker 3: just that, Like like say you from Cleveland, right, but
Speaker 3: then you rapping and say you rapping with eight? Then
Speaker 3: you rapping and you get the no I'm talking about you,
Speaker 3: but you you grew up and raised in Cleveland. Say
Speaker 3: you've been in LA maybe two years and now you
Speaker 3: about LA like' I don't like. You can't do that here,
Speaker 3: Like you can't come to Memphis and you be from
Speaker 3: Cleveland and then you rap it. It wouldn't even sound
Speaker 3: like a person to do that. Why would you do that?
Speaker 3: Like I want to hear about Cleveland. You see what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I want to hear that.
Speaker 4: I want to hear they. I want to hear the
Speaker 4: Cleveland swag. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I like, yeah, I can't even you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean unless you rerap in a song where you're
Speaker 3: talking about you came down there and you know this
Speaker 3: what you saw and this what we had was moving
Speaker 3: all right? Well, I can accept that, but don't let
Speaker 3: me hear everything you talking about this and now all
Speaker 3: of a sudden you comped and thisic.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I thought dude was from Cleveland.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I've been like and theyve tell you. I've been
Speaker 3: out here since nineteen eighty eight. Bro, I still tell
Speaker 3: people I'm from Cleveland, Ohio. I live in California, and
Speaker 3: I love California. This's my own got a lot of friends,
Speaker 3: he got a lot of family out here. But I
Speaker 3: am from Cleveland. My roots are from Cleveland, Ohio. I'm
Speaker 3: a Midwest cat. You feel what I'm saying, And I
Speaker 3: think that I think we have to keep our We
Speaker 3: gotta stay true to ourselves in this culture. Bro, you
Speaker 3: got you can appreciate somebody's stuff because I did Memphis.
Speaker 3: I love Memphis sound. I think Memphis got a very
Speaker 3: unique sound. Just like when I first heard MC, it
Speaker 3: was different. That's what drew me to him, because everybody
Speaker 3: else is rapping on dun dunt dun't, dun't, dun't don't,
Speaker 3: And he came with the slow minis and beats. They
Speaker 3: sounded like like like some way was about to get murdered.
Speaker 3: Like we're driving around the neighborhood and looking for somebody.
Speaker 3: My promise, Man, that man was serious?
Speaker 1: Yeah for real?
Speaker 3: Man, Well, ma'am, I know you got a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff going on, man, and I appreciate you coming on
Speaker 3: the show. Man. I've been trying to make this happen
Speaker 3: for a minute before. Man, what's your favorite project you
Speaker 3: don't ever done? Like, what's your coldest project? I'm a
Speaker 3: pause the song Chicken here, that's the one that sold
Speaker 3: the most. You know, I'm a number I don't cheese. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I gotta go with that. I mean, I gotta go
Speaker 3: with that because that's that's what so the most. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. If it was you know
Speaker 3: something else, you know I say something else, but mister, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, hey man, I'm gonna tell you something. It
Speaker 3: was like I said, it was different. It was different.
Speaker 4: And when I when when I had did it, I
Speaker 4: didn't even know it was gonna go. See this. This
Speaker 4: This is how I mean.
Speaker 3: And you know if she mean you know, like when
Speaker 3: you're doing something, you'll be like it's hard, but you
Speaker 3: don't like I don't know like if it's gonna go.
Speaker 3: I got people around me saying, man, this this is it.
Speaker 3: I said, well, shoot, put it out. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm just like, okay, put it out.
Speaker 1: What you do? You kid me? You don't know. You
Speaker 1: don't distinguish a hit from one song to the other.
Speaker 1: Nigga is just what I do.
Speaker 5: If y'all as the fans and people on the outside,
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, that's it right there.
Speaker 1: You gonna be like, you know, that's it.
Speaker 5: Like you know, you was getting a lot of motherfucking
Speaker 5: you know, with the with the social media, was getting
Speaker 5: a lot of hits for the fucking on TikTok with
Speaker 5: your others, with your songs and shit, everybody was fucking
Speaker 5: I'm looking up. I'm like, man, they banging my nigga
Speaker 5: pat song and shit, it's probably some ship that they
Speaker 5: can fuck with when it dropped, like or not. Got
Speaker 5: niggas who really fuck with your music. So yeah, it's
Speaker 5: crazy how you know people are resort back to the
Speaker 5: good old shit. You get me, niggas make good music.
Speaker 5: You can't deny it.
Speaker 1: Ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's really what it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, Like and then, like we were talking about
Speaker 3: the social media and stuff, like in a sense, it's
Speaker 3: good because it's like, bro, like on some real business,
Speaker 3: somebody could listen to your first album you ever made
Speaker 3: right now on TikTok YouTube and then all of a
Speaker 3: sudden they do a little dance to something you've gone viral,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you getting calls and everything,
Speaker 3: like you getting calls like hey, hey, hey, did people
Speaker 3: stap into your music? Hey hey man, we want to
Speaker 3: we want to book you here and we want you
Speaker 3: like this is crazy, but I mean this the world
Speaker 3: we living in, man, it's a better thing. Huh.
Speaker 1: How often you going to road? Man?
Speaker 4: I be on the road all the time. I got bro.
Speaker 3: But see I do I do a lot of like
Speaker 3: speaking in the prisons now. So like like as far
Speaker 3: as like shows like bro, I be I be booked up, bro,
Speaker 3: like I be booked up.
Speaker 1: Lacking food like like like I recently.
Speaker 4: Just really slowed down.
Speaker 3: Just I'm talking when I say recently, were talking about
Speaker 3: just last week, like I was booked up last week
Speaker 3: week for that week for that Like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like, but I just I just recently slowed
Speaker 3: up because I got so many uh the books are
Speaker 3: going into the prisons and juveniles like I gotta go
Speaker 3: like I got I been Damn, I gotta go to Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: I gotta go to I gotta go Indianapolis. I gotta
Speaker 3: go to uh uh what was the Mississippi? I gotta
Speaker 3: go to after here in Texas, I gotta go to Texas.
Speaker 3: I gotta go to uh uh, Knoxville. It's a place
Speaker 3: outside Knoxville. Is a juvenile outside of Noxville. I got
Speaker 3: like I got like living spots. I gotta go to
Speaker 3: this month already, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So like, I've been gonna roll a lot. I've been
Speaker 4: rolled a lot as far as like you with the
Speaker 4: other stuff.
Speaker 3: Man, you stay busy, man, you stay cracking and doing something. Man,
Speaker 3: I wanted just one more question, man, good, I can
Speaker 3: tell you one thing that the people ain't never seen
Speaker 3: before heard before. Man, I would really man love to
Speaker 3: see you when they do a record. Dog, I think
Speaker 3: that'll be the Colvid shiver.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, man. My my wife one
Speaker 4: of the biggest MCA fans ever. She wanted the biggest.
Speaker 1: MCA man, bro I love to I love.
Speaker 3: Don't too much prop because he had Miss Brown to
Speaker 3: cuts me out and one to come back on the
Speaker 3: show because you know, Aight is really a eight is
Speaker 3: really at his core a common man. He don't like
Speaker 3: being looked at, no type of light. He just a
Speaker 3: regular dude, he said, Man, just treat me like you
Speaker 3: treating mebody else. Treat me like a regular dude. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's all you can get. You can't ask for no
Speaker 3: more ship, you feel me, just just the respect and
Speaker 3: the common man ship. And I think that go a
Speaker 3: lot of you know, that go a long way with
Speaker 3: people when you don't have that, you know, that conceded
Speaker 3: mind state or attitude or oh Nigga, I did this,
Speaker 3: or Nigga I acted in this, or Nigga.
Speaker 1: I made this.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, Nigga, I did what I did because
Speaker 5: that's what I was supposed to do. Now on the
Speaker 5: outside of that, I put my pants on just like you, nigga,
Speaker 5: and you know, go to the gym.
Speaker 1: Hit the weights just like you, and wake up and
Speaker 1: just regular. So you know, that's what it is. That's
Speaker 1: all you can ask for, you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then you know, sometimes man like you want to
Speaker 3: be like that's the only thing that's the only thing
Speaker 3: with this, with this.
Speaker 1: Stuff that came with it, that fan stuff. I wasn't
Speaker 1: all that I used to be. Like, man, just exactly.
Speaker 3: Like you know, you be on, you know, especially like
Speaker 3: when you don't know a person and you don't be
Speaker 3: knowing what they own, and you you know, I had
Speaker 3: I had to get out of that parento at first stuff.
Speaker 3: I had to get out of there, thank God. But
Speaker 3: you know, it's like, you know, you don't want to
Speaker 3: you ain't tripping on taking no picture. I mean that's nothing,
Speaker 3: but I mean, you know, it's just like you know,
Speaker 3: you ain't when you ain't used to something like that,
Speaker 3: it makes you be like, man, what you are?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: You know, like I give you a scenario like and
Speaker 3: when I say this, I'm not trying to glorify me,
Speaker 3: because if I would have did this, man, that had
Speaker 3: been the dumbest thing I did.
Speaker 4: In my life.
Speaker 3: So when I first got on, I was out here
Speaker 3: on the north side of the city, and I was
Speaker 3: at this I was leaving out of a grocery store
Speaker 3: and so I'm walking the uh you know, cause I
Speaker 3: used to, you know, go here, but I'm really going
Speaker 3: here because I know who I am and i know
Speaker 3: I'm in the run. Into me some nice looking young ladies.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. When I'm pushing the car.
Speaker 3: It's a little dude in front of me, and he
Speaker 3: walking real slow, and he looking like he's trying to
Speaker 3: slow up, like he gonna turn around and.
Speaker 1: Pull a scrap out.
Speaker 3: Well, I got a nine in my back pocket, so
Speaker 3: I put my I take the naw out safety off.
Speaker 3: The man walks, the man turns around. I'm pulling the
Speaker 3: gun up. I'm gonna pop this dude. And he say, Man,
Speaker 3: I want to get an autoground. I said, And like,
Speaker 3: you know, if anybody know about shooting a gun, we
Speaker 3: ain't gonna criminate, our says, But you know, it's a
Speaker 3: it's a certain kind of fear adrenaline, Like I'm really
Speaker 3: gonna have to do this because I'm thinking, this is
Speaker 3: what this dude is on. I mean, because no, people
Speaker 3: at Memphis, we don't we don't get close around you.
Speaker 4: We don't do that.
Speaker 3: That's like I'm not finna walk up somewhere. And you
Speaker 3: know they talking about COVID and all that. Man, we
Speaker 3: don't play them type of games because when somebody get
Speaker 3: up on you, they can put something up on you.
Speaker 3: They pull out and pull a scrap out of anything.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like, ain't nobody stick you
Speaker 3: with and anything like, bro, you ain't fnna get up
Speaker 3: on me and won't play that.
Speaker 1: So when I seen dudes slowing up, I said, what's
Speaker 1: wrong this food?
Speaker 3: And so then I just grabbed the stuff about the
Speaker 3: thing or I don't know if I was still pushing
Speaker 3: the baths and I can't remember, but I know I
Speaker 3: had reached for the for the nine and man, I
Speaker 3: take y'all and I pulled it up, and it's like
Speaker 3: I'm like, like, I'm really finna have to shoot this dude,
Speaker 3: Like this dude is crazy because you mean, people are
Speaker 3: crazy out here. Man, I'm feel burn dude right there
Speaker 3: in a lot. And then it's like I told dude,
Speaker 3: I said, bro, I said, bro, you trip being bro?
Speaker 3: He was like what Man, I just wanted to get out,
Speaker 3: I said, But see he was looking. You know if somebody, okay,
Speaker 3: say you walk out of somewhere and a dude looking suspicious,
Speaker 3: come on, we're gonna think what is this fall out?
Speaker 3: Because see I'm not you got to understand I'm not
Speaker 3: registering the project pat stuff all the way yet I'm
Speaker 3: still thinking.
Speaker 4: I'm like a regular dude.
Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, like just nigga, So ship,
Speaker 5: this could be a this could be the opposition, they
Speaker 5: could be anything.
Speaker 3: I could you could have. Man, you stood on my
Speaker 3: cousin some years ago.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna shoot you.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I'm paranoid and at that time, I'm super paranoid.
Speaker 3: So man, I'm I'm like and I'm like, man, I'm
Speaker 3: tripping to this is the crazy part.
Speaker 1: I'm on parole.
Speaker 3: I'm you know what I'm saying. I don't supposed to
Speaker 3: have no gun, I don't supposed to. Yeah, I'm bro,
Speaker 3: I'm all the way in to the to the to
Speaker 3: the negative.
Speaker 4: But I'm not. I'm not. I'm not you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm not thinking, Bro, I'm not.
Speaker 3: And you know, like it's it's it's it's really messed up, man,
Speaker 3: because you know and just like he said, man, you
Speaker 3: know if we just say this the myphics, you know,
Speaker 3: back my day, you say I'm a man for anything,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, man, you know,
Speaker 3: like yeah, you know I have some my homemianes and stuff,
Speaker 3: my cousin, they'll.
Speaker 4: Be around me. But you know, I do what I
Speaker 4: want to do. I'm a man for anything. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I'm gonna do it myself. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, but you know that ain't to wait on you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And uh, you live and by
Speaker 3: the grace of God.
Speaker 4: And you learn.
Speaker 1: So I lived and I learned, and I like, man,
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 4: Man, looksten man, I advise everybody.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: You know, sometime man, you know, you be in a situation.
Speaker 3: You know, especially in the hood, you could just jump
Speaker 3: in the car, young dudes. You just jump in the
Speaker 3: car and one of the young dudes jump in the
Speaker 3: car and they homeboy, got beef there. I gonna tell them,
Speaker 3: did they get to shoot on the car? They throw
Speaker 3: you the gun? I mean your life and that you
Speaker 3: don't you just gonna shoot? You get you know, messed
Speaker 3: up situations. But if any some things I say this,
Speaker 3: some things you can't avoid, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But if you can avoid by all means, if you
Speaker 3: see some already that may happen, or you think some
Speaker 3: that nigga like you know, you said, Man, something told
Speaker 3: me don't get in the car with brother now because
Speaker 3: I knew. You know what I'm saying, don't do it, man,
Speaker 3: because with that be bro, that be God warning you.
Speaker 3: That really be God talking to you through your conscience.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean a quick scenario.
Speaker 4: You know how sometime when.
Speaker 3: You be like you know back in your days, you
Speaker 3: ever did something wrong, you be like, man, I already
Speaker 3: know it's gonna be bad, but you carry out to
Speaker 3: act anyway, like if you know it's gonna be bad,
Speaker 3: pump the brakes on it and think, think, think, stop
Speaker 3: saying oh wait.
Speaker 4: A minute, whit man, wait man, wait man, wait minute.
Speaker 3: I don't I probably need to step away from this
Speaker 3: because it don't make you less of a man.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I always tell.
Speaker 3: Dudes, you know, we call uh, you know, gangs down here,
Speaker 3: myth we call them mobs. I don't know, y'all. Man
Speaker 3: said the same thing we call the mob. I said, Man,
Speaker 3: if you in the mob, you know what I'm saying, Like, okay,
Speaker 3: you in the mob, but just.
Speaker 4: Cause you choose not to shoot that gun, or you
Speaker 4: choose not to jump in the car with this or
Speaker 4: it's your choice.
Speaker 3: I mean, you still that same person if you squirrel
Speaker 3: up and get you a job and live you a
Speaker 3: life free and not in prison, get you an Instagram model,
Speaker 3: and get you some kids in a car. That don't
Speaker 3: mean yeah, you might have squirreed up a little bit
Speaker 3: far as like you ain't as active, but it don't
Speaker 3: mean you won't get active.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you a main still like you. Don't you steal that
Speaker 4: same person? You know what I'm saying. And I just
Speaker 4: I tell dudes that, especially young dudes.
Speaker 3: That's like, you know, when you fourteen fifteen, then when
Speaker 3: you turn sixteen seventeen, you think different, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So that's what you know a lot of
Speaker 3: young dudes, man, I be telling them that, Like, bro,
Speaker 3: you ain't you start thinking about real life when you
Speaker 3: turn seventeen eighteen?
Speaker 4: Everybody do. I don't care who you is, don't car
Speaker 4: what you're doing.
Speaker 3: You could be a fool out here, and you got
Speaker 3: some fools out here, but majority you're gonna be thinking
Speaker 3: like I'm seventeen eighteen, man, what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 4: I'm finna be twenty I'm finna be twenty one. Like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You start thinking different, bro, And when you do that,
Speaker 3: what that is is you're maturing. So you need to
Speaker 3: just say to yourself for a second, Hey, look hold up, man,
Speaker 3: do I want to be eighteen facing fifty years of
Speaker 3: life centers.
Speaker 4: On death row? Or do I want to be out
Speaker 4: here free? You know what I'm saying, having me some fun?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, Bro, you gotta you You got to make a choice.
Speaker 3: You gotta stop for a many thinks, because my thing
Speaker 3: is this right here. At the end of the day, man,
Speaker 3: you steal who you is, whatever choice you make in life,
Speaker 3: if you make a bad choice or you make a
Speaker 3: good choice, you still that same dude when it was
Speaker 3: fourteen fifteen with shooting it gun and you steal a man, and.
Speaker 4: You still handle your business.
Speaker 3: Now now you have the choice of how you handle
Speaker 3: your business or or or how far you're gonna take
Speaker 3: the business.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, it's in your hands.
Speaker 4: You don't want to, Yeah, you don't have to jump
Speaker 4: out in that porch.
Speaker 1: And bah black black like you.
Speaker 4: Said, what dude, say what up?
Speaker 1: Come black?
Speaker 4: Come on, man, you ain't got to do that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If somebody owe you some money, if you feel like
Speaker 3: you've been disrespected, man, take a breathe for a minute
Speaker 3: and think about it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Because man, like, is it
Speaker 4: worth your fruits? Your future? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And that's what a lot of dudes. Man, they don't.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 3: They don't when you I made a bad decision one time.
Speaker 3: I went and robbed this place of business. If I
Speaker 3: could take it back, I would because when I got
Speaker 3: the time, I ended up getting nine years.
Speaker 4: I can't get that time back.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That time gone.
Speaker 3: But see it's like in the hell and the problem
Speaker 3: to what twenty twenty one, I got great hair in
Speaker 3: my head, like I'm ninety years old, worried about thirty years.
Speaker 4: Dese folks trying to give me. I'm trying to give
Speaker 4: them to come down, and I ain't.
Speaker 1: Ain't.
Speaker 3: It ain't about the prison, so to speak. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It ain't about that. It's about the time.
Speaker 3: It's about you know you can you a man.
Speaker 4: You can go in there. You can do it and
Speaker 4: come out.
Speaker 3: You know you ain't. Ain't nobody going you straight. You
Speaker 3: gotta hell your business. You get in there, hell of
Speaker 3: your business. But that ain't the part I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about being in there, man, and you gotta
Speaker 3: go to bed at nine and eight, locked down for
Speaker 3: thirty days.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: One time I was in both my texas. Man, we
Speaker 4: was locked down for so long.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm talking about man, it was bringing them blooney sandwiches,
Speaker 3: people throwing them in the garbage, man, blodea. And it
Speaker 3: ain't ain't let you know the inmate. The inmates run
Speaker 3: to jail. They ain't let nobody have to clean up
Speaker 3: or nothing. It's thinking in there man, flies. And I'm
Speaker 3: talking about bro like like like, ain't no visits you
Speaker 3: do on lockdown. I'm talking about bro. I really I
Speaker 3: saw American me when I was younger. I never I
Speaker 3: never experienced it because I'm from Tennessee. So that's that's
Speaker 3: like a California thing.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: Getting to both my texas. Oh yeah, oh it's going
Speaker 3: down like that. I got the books and everything wrapped
Speaker 3: around me like like like like a bulletproof vest, like
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, locking the lock, the hece,
Speaker 3: pigs in the in the window, all that, Like it's real.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Now, it's like, now, don't get it twisted. It's it's
Speaker 3: gangster as a fool in our city jail. But I
Speaker 3: never experienced that with other race of people because Memphis
Speaker 3: at the time when I grew up was mainly African American.
Speaker 3: But now you know, it's more Latinos now down here.
Speaker 3: But when I was about my text, that's all it was,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I was just like, man,
Speaker 3: I had never experienced that before. But I'm talking about man,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about every day. See, I tell the truth.
Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't have to fake nothing because I
Speaker 4: lived it.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: I'm praying every day my homeboys, don't get into it
Speaker 3: with nobody, cause I know I got a riot and
Speaker 3: I don't want a ride.
Speaker 4: I want to go home.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm saying every d.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, lord, please don't let them get into it.
Speaker 4: And I'm talking about every day, Bro, this is the truth.
Speaker 4: Cause if it go down Bro, I gotta go. And
Speaker 4: did it go down? Of course it did.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, I was fortunate, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, it wasn't as bad, but I mean
Speaker 3: it got bad on them lockdowns. Oh shoot, man, it
Speaker 3: got bad, bro. And I'm just saying, like, who wants
Speaker 3: to live that for thirty years?
Speaker 1: Fifty years?
Speaker 4: Who want to be death row?
Speaker 3: Will you come out in the cage and work out
Speaker 3: for a hour and you got to go back in there.
Speaker 4: For twenty three and one? Man? No, man, I don't
Speaker 4: want that. Man straight on that I've been in the hole.
Speaker 4: I don't want that. I've been in the whole. I
Speaker 4: don't want that.
Speaker 1: There ain't no way to live for sure, man, Cool
Speaker 1: that for sure ain't no where to live. Man. Well, man,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you though.
Speaker 4: Hey man, Look it's all love.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate y' all. Man, We appreciate you. We definitely
Speaker 3: gonna have to get this in in person. Man, and
Speaker 3: we gonna be in text man about that other stuff.
Speaker 3: Man say indeed and then man, make it happen. Man, Look,
Speaker 3: I'm with it one hundred percent. Like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, It's an honor, it's an honor, bro, let's
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: Still gonna get on this job.
Speaker 5: So you know that bigg is the mouthpeek, the mouth
Speaker 5: of the South, and shit that he gonna get it cracking.
Speaker 1: So we definitely gonna conjure up something my peoples, for sure.
Speaker 3: Sure, thank you Bron all day for sure. Well that
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