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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for incenter news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 2: The Star Infrasco.

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Speaker 3: And now your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 4: Today is January thirteenth, twenty twenty five, and we are

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Speaker 4: officially one hundred and one days away from the NFL

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Speaker 4: Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin. We've got a little Draft

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Speaker 4: one oh one for you here on the Draft Show

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Speaker 4: presented by Miller Lite.

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Speaker 2: Today we've got Brian brought.

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Speaker 4: Us soon to join us, Vatch Lombardi back for his

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Speaker 4: second episode, and.

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Speaker 2: Then for the first time in the.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five NFL Draft process, we welcome the duo

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Speaker 4: from one oh five to three the fans, Zach Walchuk,

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Speaker 4: Bobby Belt. Glad you guys are back on the Draft

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Speaker 4: Show and back with us again today. Enjoyed the snow

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Speaker 4: day a little bit, but it just delayed the fact

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Speaker 4: that I got.

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Speaker 2: To talk draft with you guys.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my my one game suspension for Day three of

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Speaker 5: the draft uh in April is over.

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Speaker 3: I'm back.

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Speaker 5: I had a lot of time to think about what

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Speaker 5: I did, and now I'm hearing him ready to go.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of self reflection.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm glad that you realized scouting baby in your ways. Man,

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Speaker 6: I'm fired up and I'm excited to uh to be

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Speaker 6: here with Voch dude. I mean, we got to do

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Speaker 6: a little bit of stuff on YouTube last year. You

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Speaker 6: you welcomed me on the show. I've enjoyed a lot

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Speaker 6: of your content, and I think we got a great crew.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Tommy, I was watching the first episode. Uh, Nick,

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Speaker 6: we know is fantastic. I'm shocked at Brian's not on

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Speaker 6: time today to make fun of Oh he's running in.

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Speaker 2: He's running in. We weren't talking about him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so Jalen Walker the thing about he's not a linebacker.

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Speaker 8: But.

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Speaker 2: He's an 's an edge. We converted him already.

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Speaker 4: That didn't take long, No, it didn't. No, but it's

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Speaker 4: good to have you guys back. Bobby's going to get

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Speaker 4: another one game suspense engine for just mentioning it. You're

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Speaker 4: not going to be here tomorrow, but it'll be back

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Speaker 4: on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: No, that's the schedule. But yeah, glad to have you

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Speaker 2: guys back.

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Speaker 4: I saw somebody on Twitter called Nick Harris, the young

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Speaker 4: Dane Brugler and I think I tend to agree there,

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Speaker 4: but we're not going to talk good about Nick while

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Speaker 5: I just saw Nicholas. I just came from Plano. I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna see him right after we're getting with this, so

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Speaker 5: we go, Yeah, what are you doing out there hanging

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Speaker 5: out with draft prospects, guys who are training to get ready.

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Speaker 2: How they looking so far?

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Speaker 5: It looks like they're doing a lot of stretching and

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Speaker 5: a lot of lunges and stuff. Right now. It's really

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Speaker 2: Not too deep into the detail.

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not. We're not doing a

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Speaker 5: bunch of you know, speed turns or anything else. We're

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Speaker 5: just we're lungeing. We're trying to get those muscles activated.

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Speaker 2: Love it.

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Speaker 4: That's what Vauch did on his way in today, just

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Speaker 4: to be ready for the draft show.

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Speaker 7: I promise I was lunging, but it wasn't football stove.

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Speaker 7: Oh okay, just a little boxing stuff but no.

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Speaker 2: So lots to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Of course, with the draft being now one hundred and

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Speaker 4: one day away. Brian and we mentioned this in the

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Speaker 4: team as their head coach goes, as their entire coaching

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have what you're looking at right now, as

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Speaker 2: a much better idea. But they're really getting ready for

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Speaker 4: And with all that cross checking and all of the

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Speaker 2: You brought up offensive line.

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Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of Cowboys fans that

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Speaker 4: And what this offensive line looked like earlier in the

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Speaker 4: the year. But where should that conversation begin at offensive line?

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Speaker 4: What does this class look like? Where should the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: begin talking about taking another offensive line lineman very high

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Speaker 3: Well, as far as I'm concerned, right, the first thing

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Speaker 2: Admitted, you're terrified.

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Speaker 3: I'm not terrified.

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Speaker 2: No, No, that's terrified.

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Speaker 3: That's fair, But right, we are.

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Speaker 2: Terrified because you're gonna tell me right now that this

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Speaker 2: and you're an offensive line guy.

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Speaker 7: That is correct. Let me tell you why, though, Bran. First,

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Speaker 7: we have to figure out why are teams with worse

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Speaker 7: think that's the first question we have to figure out. Hey,

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Speaker 7: what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Something with you today?

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Speaker 3: Come on, man?

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Speaker 7: Do we have to change how we do things scheme wise?

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Speaker 7: Do we need somebody to coordinate something different? How can

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Speaker 7: this guy that I never even I've never heard his

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Speaker 3: This is one of his down years, I will.

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Speaker 7: Say, but he's normally beating at a lot of people Tyler's

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Speaker 7: But why is he down this year? Why was Terrence

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Speaker 7: answer questions like that. So once we get that figured out,

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Speaker 7: then I'm gonna tell you why I'm so worried about

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Speaker 7: to add as many great offensive linemen to this thing

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Speaker 7: as I possible. And I know Cowboy fans don't want

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Speaker 2: Out though they didn't want to hear Michigan defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Now the don't want to hit none of this Brian.

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Speaker 3: They want to receiver.

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Speaker 7: But but yeah, we have to figure out, you know, Okay,

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Speaker 7: do we have to get better there or is this

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Speaker 7: something that we can live with? Brock Hobbin is a

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Speaker 7: fantastic example, and we may all disagree about how good

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Speaker 7: we think Brock is. Some people think we can get

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Speaker 7: I think he's as good as a backup guard as

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Speaker 7: as an interior flex center guard dude as you could

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Speaker 7: dudes I look at because nobody cares what the Raiders

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Speaker 7: are doing, what Jacksonville is doing Philly.

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Speaker 3: They leave no stone unturned.

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Speaker 4: Seconds for Jalen Hurts on that first touchdown to throw

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Speaker 3: They leave no stone unturned.

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Speaker 7: So if I can get better than brock or I

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Speaker 7: know he's a you know, riogy left tackling all that,

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Speaker 7: but we can get better than him or better than Terrence.

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Speaker 7: I'm opening to listening how we can get better, especially

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Speaker 7: especially if you got questions about four and if you

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Speaker 7: got a questions about your running.

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Speaker 4: Back and questions about your left tackle that you drafted

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Speaker 6: And when has this team been as close that we've

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Speaker 6: if not a Super Bowl. It's win the offensive line

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Speaker 6: and they've got a good running back, right, it's both

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Speaker 6: of them. It's both of them together. I know a

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Speaker 6: lot of people are going to argue, hey, the line

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Speaker 6: to be a combination of the two. They had a

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Speaker 6: They had an elite back in Ezekiel Elliott in the

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Speaker 6: Great Wall at Dallas nineties, they had an elite line.

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Speaker 2: They had an elite back in EMMITTT. Smith. So you know,

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Speaker 2: let's go ahead and not just oh my.

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Speaker 6: God, we're gonna kick out the running back, because it's

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Speaker 6: all about the line both together. That's really what in

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Speaker 6: the history that Dallas Cowboys has made them.

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Speaker 2: Spec Okay, if I can't get him to say this,

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Speaker 2: are you terrified of these offensive lineman?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I feel like you're we're walking through a minefield here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, see, that's what I'm not scared to say that.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I know you are. I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: you're not. But I agree. I agree with you about

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Speaker 2: the whole thing of trying to figure this thing out.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes sometimes, like I've heard, I've heard coaches say,

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Speaker 2: you know, good coaches, good players make good coaches.

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Speaker 3: Sure you know.

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Speaker 2: And if you and if all of a sudden you

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Speaker 2: that way. But I tell you what I am. I'm

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Speaker 2: to the point when you ask the question about offensive

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Speaker 2: line that I'm trying to figure out, Okay, which one

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Speaker 2: of these guys can I live with, and which one

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Speaker 2: of these guys could come in here and fit and

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Speaker 2: help and do I'm having a problem with that right now,

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Speaker 2: And you're talking about drafts. I'm talking about draft prospects

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Speaker 2: is I've grown a custom being with you guys, and

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Speaker 7: Brian, me ask you who is your best guard? Whoever

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 3: Who's who's who's the best guy in his draft?

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Speaker 8: For you?

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Speaker 2: I think it's the Ohio State kid.

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Speaker 7: So so so so listen, take Josh Simmons versus last

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Speaker 3: Do you put him with fuaganm Like? Where do you ring?

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Speaker 2: I think he's near the top of this thing. But

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Speaker 2: They don't in the first round.

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Speaker 6: I mean, but this year, you got only players that

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Speaker 2: Possibly there's so many guys in the first round of

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what I'm doing. I've only got

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Speaker 2: I think I got three of them are hurt. Three

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Speaker 6: Put Simmons. Did you put Simmons in the first Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. See. And same thing Morris in the corner from

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Speaker 2: uncertainty of the offensive line of like, Okay, these are good,

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Speaker 2: these are good dudes, good good players. But you know

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Speaker 2: the tackles. Yeah, and I mean me personally, I want

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Speaker 2: an idiot, Brian, and you know he's gonna be a tackle, Fine,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go somewhere else. But I

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Speaker 6: I think he's got the athleticism to do both. But

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Speaker 2: I've got him at tackle right now.

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Speaker 4: But it's I had Tyler Smith at tackle too, and

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Speaker 2: Convinced me. Then he convinced me about the tackle thing.

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Speaker 4: Footwork outside, I've seen it before. It was kind of

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Speaker 2: But his footwork was atrocious.

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Speaker 4: We talked about that last year throughout the draft process

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Speaker 4: Kelvin Banks, I think would dominate in a in a

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Speaker 4: that makes sense. Because I think his footwork is there.

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Speaker 2: This is where I would disagree with you. I think

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Speaker 5: My issue with the footwork with Kelvin Banks is it's

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Speaker 5: they're not quick, no, no, no, But but I think

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Speaker 5: they're really clean. But then I watch him like whenever

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Speaker 5: I see clumsy feet and that's to me, Like we're

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Speaker 5: I would have him got to have that is because

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 7: I think his best blocks are like his down blocks.

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Speaker 7: I think he reaches really well, but like that angrily

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Speaker 7: climbing stuff. He can't get a little wonky right there.

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Speaker 7: But but what I think is most important is can

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Speaker 7: kind of want you to be more powerful. I kind

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Speaker 7: But if he's like, okay, you're a head up four

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Speaker 7: But down blacks, like working sideways, that's where I think

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Speaker 2: See this is where I see him. I see the

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Speaker 2: so but I don't see the space player. Sure, Bobby's

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys guarden and dependent en if to have a

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Speaker 2: new coaching staff or not. We'll see a lot of combos,

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Speaker 2: a lot of combination blocks, a lot of center guard

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Speaker 2: help each other, you know a lot of those. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm talking about inside the tackles. They leave

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Speaker 6: And the other thing is the stunts, Right, how many

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: And I think Calvin Banks is a guy that does

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Speaker 6: pick some of that stuff up, recognize when the blitz

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Speaker 6: And I don't want to interject whatever you're about to say.

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Speaker 6: Your body plays that. You can answer this afterwards. But

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Speaker 6: Kelvin Banks Junior.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I think Banks is a stronger guy.

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Speaker 2: I think Campbell is more fleet of foot, if you

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Speaker 2: want to put it that way, I think, I think

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Speaker 2: I think Banks is just a more powerful guy. The

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Speaker 2: thing about it is you can see Campbell's second level

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. To Bobby's point, but I've also

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Speaker 2: see him like he gets a two point stance kick

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Speaker 2: kick kick, he's out there, you know, Banks, it's a

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Speaker 2: little bit. It's not as quick with Campbell. I see it.

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Speaker 2: If you said Campbell play tackle, I'm in Campbell played

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Speaker 7: First of all, I got a two on Campbell, and

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: I think probably a high to Yeah, yeah, sure well

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Speaker 7: I think he gets a little high for me to

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Speaker 7: like first of all, his stance is already up, and

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Speaker 7: if you're playing guard, I kind of want you to

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Speaker 7: And that's why I think Banks is really good. Like

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Speaker 7: Banks does get down. Yeah, I have a hard problem

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Speaker 5: I heard Dane say something a couple of weeks back

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Speaker 5: top offensive line He's my top offensive lineman, and I

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Speaker 5: don't feel great about the offensive line class. But are

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Speaker 5: you convinced that if Tyler Geiden's in this draft, Will

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Speaker 5: Campbell goes before Geyton because Dane said he thinks Geyton

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Speaker 3: I disagree.

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Speaker 5: I think Dyton does go ahead of him in this class.

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Speaker 2: And we got to take his rookie year out of

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Speaker 5: Seration just whatever the value is coming out of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: Yeahah, well if you got through all the holding penalties

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Speaker 5: With Tyler, Yeah, yeah, we're talking about Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Does Dydon is an evaluation go ahead of Will

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Speaker 5: Campbell for the league? I think for most of the

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Speaker 5: league Dighton would have been higher.

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Speaker 2: Boy, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I disagree.

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Speaker 2: I totally disagree.

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Speaker 3: If you think Campbell, I'm yeah if you think Campbell

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Speaker 7: One of my biggest gripes about Guiding was how he

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Speaker 3: There's no just know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll give you credit. You made that known.

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Speaker 3: I'm not new to this. I'm true to this. I

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Speaker 2: I'm giving you credit for that. Yeah, so of us

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Speaker 7: And and Campbell I don't. I don't think of Campbell

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Speaker 7: more power than Campbell. I mean then Guiding, plus, I

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Speaker 7: the field for me, Like, I'm not I wasn't excited

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Speaker 7: way to put Campbell on the field, like all right, cool,

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Speaker 7: I put him at right guard and gripe about it.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't excited.

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Speaker 6: About so I like to rip on Brian about like, okay,

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Speaker 6: we're not gonna play like cowards here, right. I feel

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Speaker 6: looking at these guys like can.

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Speaker 2: I get the safest player? I can't. I can't. Who's

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Speaker 2: the safest runner from.

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Speaker 5: Right around there?

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Speaker 9: For?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Said what about it as an offensive lineman? Though you're

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Speaker 2: just okay. If you said I had to take if

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Speaker 2: if they don't, if they okay, if the but the medical,

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Speaker 2: all that, tally ho, let's road, you know, I'm all

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Speaker 4: I've heard Banks from Texas, Will Campbell from LSU, Josh

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Speaker 2: As anybody watched him.

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Speaker 7: I think that's a guard and I think he's going

443
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Speaker 7: to be like the second round. Yeah yeah, we can

444
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Speaker 7: have a true second round like in the thirty.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk about the player. There's some people who

446
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Speaker 2: think this guy is the next Zach.

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Speaker 5: Martin the uh Millium you know West year Zach Martin.

448
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not this year.

449
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Speaker 3: So last week.

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Speaker 7: I love you, Kyle, you know, show me the three

451
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Speaker 7: hundred and twenty pounds heavy guards or whatever. That's why

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Speaker 7: I think Wyatt milled Me is right. Like he's three

453
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Speaker 7: three thirty something like that. Big tail, humongous, powerful dude

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Speaker 7: down blocks. Like I said seventeen, he looks a little

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Speaker 7: biggeran that. He looks a little biggeran.

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Speaker 2: That, But I hope it's a little clearer than mine.

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Speaker 2: I guess possibly.

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Speaker 7: I don't think of him as a tackle because I

459
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Speaker 7: think his his feet kind of get a little lumbery,

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Speaker 7: you know, you know, so they're kind of heavy, and

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Speaker 7: he's a he's one of those guys where powerful and

462
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Speaker 7: if I quick set you and grab you, I got you.

463
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Speaker 7: But that quick sett and can get him in trouble.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes a little bit he'll lean and fall over. But

465
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Speaker 7: just a gritty, nasty dude. If you're just gonna play

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Speaker 7: him in guard, then fine. But to Kyle's question and

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Speaker 7: something to me and broad us kind of mention a

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Speaker 7: little bit, do y'all think the league don't really like

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Speaker 7: these powerful guards anymore? Because there have been some guards

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Speaker 7: in last year's draft year before that I've loved, like

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Speaker 7: this dude is strong, but his feet may not be

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Speaker 7: the best or whatever, and they'll go four round, fifth round. Look,

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Speaker 7: and I was like, damn, I love that dude's tape.

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Speaker 7: He's strong, he's great, he's powerful, great on the second level.

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Speaker 5: But c l a O Cyrus Torrence was a guy.

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Speaker 2: It's a good one.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Cyrus is one.

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Speaker 2: Of them first though, didn't he right? I know c

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Speaker 2: l A.

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Speaker 5: It was fifty nine second round fifty nine, Mafi.

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Speaker 7: I was a fan of a Toonio like he's being

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Speaker 7: sharp and A just got all these clean runways behind him,

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Speaker 7: but he goes late or Dark Mafia had injuries.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't that another one? And c staged.

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Speaker 5: Injury stuff?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Or like Brown from Obama like Deoncey just just I

488
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Speaker 7: move people, Okay, And if you watch an offensive line film,

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Speaker 7: the first thing.

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Speaker 3: All y'all know should be doing like can I move people?

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Speaker 7: Does he move guys? And these guys move guys? But

492
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Speaker 7: they always go day three or something like that.

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Speaker 4: So I'm caring up, starting and playing good time and there,

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Speaker 4: So I see Cyres Towans, it's gonna say Buffalo great.

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Speaker 7: So I see Millim and Millim is a move guys,

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Speaker 7: but my feet may not be the best. And I'm

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Speaker 7: just wondering will the league look at him and draft

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Speaker 7: him late even though I like him in the second one?

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Speaker 6: Well, and I wonder the same thing about Booker from

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Speaker 6: Alabama I'm Booker, I the best guard guard on the class.

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Speaker 2: And I because you and I, I think we're looking at

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Speaker 2: the same thing here.

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Speaker 6: I want nasty, I want people movers, and I want

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Speaker 6: somebody who gonna put someone on their rear, and Tyler

505
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Speaker 6: Booker does that. The other offensive tackle I would advocate

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Speaker 6: for is Connorley Junior from Oregon.

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Speaker 2: This dude, to me, you look at the size.

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Speaker 6: I think he's a guy that offensive line coaches are

509
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Speaker 6: gonna look at and say, I can mold this dude.

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Speaker 6: Give me that mold of clay and I'm gonna make

511
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Speaker 6: him a really good player. And you watched him against

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Speaker 6: Abdul Carter. I was very impressed in the Big Ten

513
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Speaker 6: Conference championship game.

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Speaker 2: The one on ones. He did not get over powered.

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Speaker 6: He's got long arms, the good kickout to force pressure

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Speaker 6: wide to the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That was one of his best things against Carter. That's

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Speaker 2: the guy.

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Speaker 6: If I had a bet on one of these tackles

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Speaker 6: that might go a little bit later, that could turn

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Speaker 6: out to the best of the bunch.

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Speaker 2: I think Connorley Junior is the one I leaned. Let

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Speaker 2: me introduce you to Charles Grant from William and Mary Okay,

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Speaker 2: I I did.

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Speaker 9: That.

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Speaker 5: He's been one of their little sleepers. But they're waiting

527
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Speaker 5: for the media to catch all.

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Speaker 2: Right, all grab you some Bill and Mary takes let's go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna catch up. The media will

530
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Speaker 4: catch up. At the end of the month.

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Speaker 2: Whenever he's in Mobile.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna get people are gonna talk more about migrants.

533
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Speaker 2: Tell me about those two. Tell me about telling about you.

534
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Speaker 2: Tell me about he guys to start and left tackle

535
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Speaker 2: there for the tribe. I also know the tribe. This

536
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Speaker 2: guy was a champion high school wrestler. Draft him right now.

537
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Speaker 2: It's either he's from Belglade, Florida, or is a champion

538
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Speaker 2: high school wrestler. Drafted him. Either way, is what I've

539
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Speaker 2: learned along the way. He's made a ton of starts

540
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Speaker 2: for William and Mary. Uh. He's gonna play in the

541
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Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. Outstanding quickness out of his stance and is set.

542
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Speaker 2: He's very light on his feet, man and an ideal

543
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Speaker 2: link to the position. He holds defenders at arms length.

544
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Speaker 2: He plays with knee bend. He plays with balance. I

545
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Speaker 2: don't see him getting overpowered or knocked off balanced. Yeah,

546
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Speaker 2: he's playing against some accountants and some some other people

547
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Speaker 2: like that. But we'llou houses in the end. Yeah, we'll

548
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Speaker 2: figure it out, you know, v M I Richmond. Richmond

549
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: played some decent football, but but he processes stunts and

550
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: stuff like that. He's not gonna get fooled. He's flexible.

551
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 2: Rarely do you see him off balance or out of position.

552
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Speaker 2: He can dominate as a finisher. He plays through the whistle.

553
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm really looking forward to hearing the reports

554
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Speaker 2: from the Senior Ball and seeing the one on one tape.

555
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Speaker 2: Voss is the one that turned me on. He goes,

556
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Speaker 2: you seen this Charles, great guy, and I'm like no,

557
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Speaker 2: And next thing you know, I get tape.

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Speaker 7: But you're right, my friend, Senior Bowl is gonna be

559
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Speaker 7: humongous for him because I'm just watching his film and

560
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Speaker 7: I've never even heard of his school.

561
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Speaker 3: What the hell is Towsan?

562
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Speaker 2: What is it? Towson?

563
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Maryland, Maryland. Yeah, I'm just I'm just seeing I'm

564
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Speaker 7: seeing schools. I've never seen it drop the state.

565
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Speaker 2: Since I think they had alignment drafted a couple of times.

566
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Speaker 2: They did good basketball school.

567
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Speaker 7: But I want to see him versus some some real dude.

568
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Speaker 7: I don't know how it's gonna like play out what

569
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Speaker 7: team or whatever, but we're gonna.

570
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Speaker 2: See him fishing on this guy.

571
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Speaker 7: I'm not crawfished. I've told you exactly what he look.

572
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Speaker 7: He woops saying. I can't say is right. He whoop says,

573
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Speaker 7: but he's whooping a character that don't play foot.

574
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Speaker 2: Josh Josh Allen threw the cattle ranchers and stuff out

575
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Speaker 2: there at Wyoming a different He emailed everybody he could.

576
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: To your point, get on a team.

577
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Speaker 7: When senior boat gets here and he's gonna have the

578
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Speaker 7: line up against prince Ly.

579
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Speaker 2: You know Mammy Yellen.

580
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Speaker 7: And Donovan is Boston College Donovan, I don't know that one,

581
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Speaker 7: and Mike Green and those characters.

582
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Speaker 3: When he lines up against those.

583
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Speaker 4: Got Kyle Kennard, Landon Jackson, Josiah Stewart, Jordan Birch, David Walker.

584
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Speaker 2: I mean, all these guys that are great.

585
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Speaker 7: Match up for him, and I got them in my

586
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 7: in my second round right now. But if he can

587
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 7: whoop those guys, I do have a problem moving them

588
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Speaker 7: up my board a little bit.

589
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Speaker 3: If he can whoop those.

590
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Speaker 5: I haven't watched him yet. I know his reputation. I

591
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Speaker 5: have not watched him yet does he does he make

592
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Speaker 5: the Ted Thompson test for you? Does he walk on water?

593
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Speaker 2: I tell you what, man, Yeah, I learned that in

594
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Speaker 2: Green Bay. If you're coming from one of these small places,

595
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Speaker 2: you better walk on water.

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Speaker 3: House and water.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Toby walking on by the way, first player Towson

598
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Speaker 5: put in the NFL. You know who was? Who's a hunter?

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Speaker 5: Sean Landetta.

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Speaker 4: for Amanda to be the Ultimate NFL Fan of the

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Speaker 4: Year at NFL dot com. Slash Fan of the Year

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Speaker 4: back alongside Zach Wolchuk, Vatch Lombardy. Brian brought us Bobby

665
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Speaker 4: Belt with Chris Beam in the back.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to do a little keep away.

667
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Speaker 4: These are draft strategies and position groups, not necessarily specific players,

668
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Speaker 4: but position groups in its entirety kind of helps setting

669
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Speaker 4: a stage for the drafts as a whole. But what

670
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Speaker 4: strategy would you stick away from? Four examples? That is

671
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Speaker 4: this for the Cowboys, he for all teams, for all teams. Okay,

672
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: this is just in general for the draft.

673
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Speaker 6: Oh this is perfect. Okay, yes, so right, I got you.

674
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 6: Kyle running back in the first is an example. I

675
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 6: would stay away from drafting or running back in the

676
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 6: first round. Not saying that I've got to lead out

677
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 6: of the box one for you, but what you got

678
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 6: I think like every team in the top eleven picks.

679
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: So this just need to stay away from Abdul Carter.

680
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: There's something about this. It's a good way.

681
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 6: He's just you know, I think the bus potential is

682
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 6: off the charts with him.

683
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: Character, character issues.

684
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 6: That shoulder might be a chronic injury, it might be

685
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 6: something that your career people out there right now.

686
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean at least for the first eleven picks.

687
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: It just doesn't feel yeah, just the first eleven.

688
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 6: As soon as he's on the board at twelve, all

689
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 6: of a sudden, that goes away.

690
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Speaker 5: What's the best player on Wait, Larry mctuns will win?

691
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 5: What thirteen? Yeah, and like enough teams was like, yeah,

692
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 5: this just doesn't feel right until it's around twelve or thirteen. Clearly,

693
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 5: yeah it makes sense.

694
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 6: No, I think for me it's it's tight end, and

695
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 6: at least for the Cowboys, I would not be looking

696
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 6: at this. I'm still a Ferguson believer, and I think

697
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 6: I like Tyler Warren more than a lot of people

698
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 6: like Tyler Warren.

699
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: Is probably I brought up Harold Fan and Junior from

700
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: Green the other day and I got shut down real

701
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 4: quick about Tyler Warren from I.

702
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: Love Tyler Warren.

703
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think he is the best linebacker, but

704
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 6: I need to do more work on tight end. Excuse me,

705
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 6: but I mean the dude plays all over the place.

706
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 6: Like if you're looking for the definition of a football player,

707
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 6: Tyler Warren is right there in the dictionary. But I

708
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 6: just don't think I think it's too rich. I just

709
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 6: am not going tight end. That's not a conversation for me.

710
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 6: In round one of this draft.

711
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Speaker 2: Watch me go for a little maction here and take

712
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: that Harold Fanny. Yeah, round one. No, I don't know

713
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 2: if I'd take him round to one, but I'll tell

714
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Speaker 2: you one if you start talking about tight ends. My guy,

715
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: Mason Taylor, who's Jason Taylor's son, I could say from Millers,

716
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: I've watched the kid play every snap. What's that.

717
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: Gorey Taylor?

718
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: I said it, Joy Taylor. Sure, she's proud of him.

719
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Speaker 2: You better than Colin. I'll tell you what. Yes, I

720
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: tell you what. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Fox. The

721
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: thing the thing with with Loveling and all that, I

722
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: think when we get through these tight ends, there's going

723
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: to be a decent group. I Warren's probably going to

724
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Speaker 2: be the I would if people would take Leveland from

725
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: Michigan in the first round. I don't think I would.

726
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: I would not.

727
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think I think you're on gunner Helm

728
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 4: from Texas.

729
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Every time I watched the Game

730
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: of Texas play, he woke damn play Yeah, Bobby, and I.

731
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Speaker 5: Mean he thought he's a gunner. Helm's going to go

732
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: on day two right like, and there's not been as

733
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Speaker 5: much buzz about him. But he I think he's going

734
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 5: to go on day two. He's going to He's somebody

735
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 5: who's going to be much higher in the tight end

736
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Speaker 5: group than I think, I think anticipate, I think.

737
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Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus. I was looking at their list of

738
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Speaker 2: their big board. I think they had him in like

739
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: fifty on their ball Wow. Yeah, on their on their

740
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: big board.

741
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Speaker 4: So I'd probably have him in the top three or

742
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: four tight ends of this class.

743
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Speaker 2: This isn't the same class that.

744
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: Sam Laporta came out and Trey m Pride and all

745
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 4: these decads. Yeah, this is not the same class. This

746
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: is a thinner tight end group. What about you watched

747
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: in terms of stay away right now.

748
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: Brian, when I like this, but this is just for

749
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: my Cowboys.

750
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: That's an every night occurrence with you.

751
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: It's fair enough.

752
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 7: I don't think the Cowboys should look safety in round one,

753
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 7: two or three. It's just you know, you have you

754
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 7: have so many needs and I understand that, hey, free

755
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 7: safety play maybe x y Z here. You know, some

756
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 7: Cowboy fans may not be like, what's going on with

757
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 7: either safety? Really, but you also have problems at one Tech,

758
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 7: you got problems at three. Take if you don't resign Osa,

759
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 7: you know some of your edge guys, Hey, we'll kind

760
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 7: of have a conversation about that. You have a linebacker

761
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 7: that's a star, but he may not play football next year.

762
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 7: Offensive line, we just had a had a powerful first

763
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 7: segment about your offensive line play here. So I just

764
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 7: don't think you can go luxury stuff. So that's tight end,

765
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 7: just like Woodchuck said, And I think safety, I don't

766
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 7: think you can in great conscience, even if Malachi is there,

767
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 7: right Georgia, you can't look at him and go all right,

768
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 7: I'm gonna pass up on this pass rusher to get

769
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 7: a safety that may not be involved in every single play.

770
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 7: You know, he can he can go cover the nickel,

771
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 7: he can go play down the box, he can go tackle,

772
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 7: you know, on the roof and all that kind of stuff. Brown,

773
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 7: But I need somebody that's really gonna help me with

774
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 7: this Misi situation or this right guard because Zach is

775
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 7: gone situation.

776
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: I need that help right now.

777
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're talking about past rusher, is what you

778
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: were saying, So you would take you clearly, maybe take

779
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: its teammate Walker over. Yeah, I'd go walk over. I

780
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: walk overstart in a heartbeat over him.

781
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, both both out of Marshall. Okay, Mike Green and

782
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 7: Jaylen Walker. I will go both those guys over safety

783
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 7: for sure.

784
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: Okay, how about Pierce from Tennessee.

785
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 7: No, that's a little high for me for Peers. Maybe

786
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 7: we traded back or something like that. I will I

787
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 7: will go Piers.

788
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So the line that we draw on the edges

789
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: is Mike Green from Marshall.

790
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 7: Ask about the other guys though, Asking about the other

791
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 7: two guys, No, no.

792
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: No, I know what you think about those A and

793
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: m kids Nix. You're about to you and I are

794
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: about to go on the LEDs here.

795
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 7: Nick Gordon is not a first round player for me.

796
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 7: He's not a second round player for me. And all

797
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 7: the dudes that I got in my third round grades,

798
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 7: I like them better than Nick Gordon, Texan and I

799
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 7: have a hard time with that.

800
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: The way I see your board then is you've got

801
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: all the twitchies the non twitch.

802
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: That's kind of how it is this year. Yes, that's

803
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: kind of how it.

804
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 7: But when I'm watching scoring Man, I just see Cleveland

805
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 7: Ferrell and I just want to go man, I don't

806
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 7: even want to. I don't want to deal with that.

807
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 7: And look y'all can probably disagree. We can find but

808
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 7: I'm not feeling them. But another one, Mike Hail Williams

809
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 7: from Georgia. They got different kind of issues, but Mike Hail,

810
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 7: I'm not here for the ball of clay guys. I'm

811
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 7: not here for the raw guys. So when I was

812
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 7: talking about guiding earlier, Guiden was a ball of clay.

813
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 7: That's very athletic. I think mikeel Williams is incredibly athletic.

814
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 7: I think he could be something if you trust your

815
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 7: coaching staff to, you know, fix them in. But what

816
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 7: I see right he runs down the middle of people

817
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 7: right now, and you just can't run down the middle

818
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 7: of pro offensive lineman. You know whether it's inside or outside.

819
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 7: So those two edges three edges really if you count

820
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 7: the other Texxam.

821
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: And them guy Shamar Stewart, I got him in the third.

822
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of Shamar Stewart neither.

823
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: So I don't know what those guys are like Mike

824
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: Rabel and New England can take them. They can play

825
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: the five teck, they can play ninety.

826
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 6: I don't know what to do with them. I really

827
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 6: don't like those are two guys. I'm watching them play.

828
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 6: I'm not seeing the first.

829
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Speaker 4: Round Marshall on Niland right kind of what you have.

830
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: I feel it's got pass rushed ability. Sorry, he's two

831
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: seventy five, he's a little smaller, but benefit too.

832
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: When you look at Nick Gorton, Bobby, you can maybe

833
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: answer this better than anyone. The league right now as

834
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: we sit on January thirteenth, has him as a surefire

835
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: first round pick, maybe top fifteen pick.

836
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 11: Yeh.

837
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: But I get this since.

838
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: From not just Brian, not just watch, not just Zach,

839
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 4: that he's maybe not that, and it's a little smoking mirrors.

840
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 5: So s Gordon, I don't think like when people have.

841
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 5: I saw John Owning tweet something the other day where

842
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 5: he said, I'm not getting the top ten hype for Scrton,

843
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 5: and I'm like, is Gorton getting top ten hype? Like,

844
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 5: I don't know.

845
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: There was a mock that had him to the Cowboys

846
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: at twelve.

847
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 5: I like Scorton fine, I like that. I would not

848
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: take him at twelve. And I've not heard from anybody

849
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: when I've asked around about Scorrton or what the thought

850
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 5: process is I haven't heard anybody talking about him like

851
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 5: he's a top fifteen player, So I don't know if

852
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 5: that's just media buzz kick name around that I think

853
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 5: Scorrton is right now. If I were to guess, I

854
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 5: think Gorton's probably between twenty and thirty five.

855
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: I had more trouble watching him play, and it's gonna

856
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: take watching thirteen games or whatever and maybe I'll figure

857
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: it out. But why is it so troublesome? I just

858
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: I was expecting more of a twitchy kind of a

859
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: rusher and he's not. And I don't know if I

860
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: could take that type of his style of play at

861
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: twelve and I don't. I don't see it.

862
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 5: You know, It's it's interesting. So like when I hear

863
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 5: VOTs talking about Michael Williams, Like, if I'm gonna say

864
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 5: a rightly, there's a lot of busts you can point

865
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 5: to who you describe similar with Michael Wims. But you

866
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 5: know who also had a very similar rundown to Michael

867
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 5: Williams was Danielle Hunter years ago. Like Daniel Hunter was

868
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 5: the same sort of scouting report. So I'm curious, Brian,

869
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 5: is there anybody likes scorting that you felt a way

870
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 5: about the spot that then ended up hitting like somebody

871
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 5: who you went, I don't see it and I don't

872
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 5: see this place. So was there anybody who hit when

873
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 5: you looked at them that way?

874
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 7: Bosa, Joey Bosa, You was a big I don't see

875
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 7: the twitchy stuff with Bosa and him, but he ended

876
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 7: up being like a good player for you.

877
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I thought that he was like

878
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: Greg Ellis, But see Greg is not really not the the.

879
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 5: Twent is not a Joey Bosa level techn.

880
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean there's there,

881
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: there's I just don't I didn't see pass rush moves.

882
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: I saw you talking about rushing down the middle. I

883
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: mean I literally saw the type of guy that was,

884
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: like if you were playing as a three four front

885
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: at five technique, that head up guy that just extends

886
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: and kind of does that. I just did not see

887
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 2: a guy I thought he might be even a better

888
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: tackle like a three technique than he would be as

889
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: an edge.

890
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: I'm taking Sawyer, I'm taking Princely.

891
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 2: These are Sawyer is a Sawyer Ohio State.

892
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 7: Sorry from Ohio State. Princely from Ole, Miss Mike Green, Marshall,

893
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 7: Marshall Donovan is from Boston. I got all those guys

894
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 7: over the I'm just not seeing it with Scordon.

895
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 6: You know, I'm looking at both of these guys as

896
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 6: defensive tackles. I don't even have them in the defensive

897
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 6: end Congress, just from a Cowboys lens, I think you

898
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 6: would be kicking them inside and maybe scorting on playing

899
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 6: as a three technique. Yeah, maybe if I lose Oshadgizua.

900
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 6: He's sliding in there because he's he's a freak athlete.

901
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 6: I mean, the dude was very productive.

902
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: At A and M.

903
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 6: The problem was we're not sure about Will Campbell and

904
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 6: I watched him against LUs you and Will Campbell is

905
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 6: kind of dominating him inside a little.

906
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, So, Zach, this is what when you watch Nick scording,

907
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 7: do you see him whooping folks?

908
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 6: That's that's that's that's really hustle. I see effort, but

909
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 6: I see a splash player.

910
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: Some of that he's whooping folks. It's because of strength.

911
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 7: I think I think we got to we can just

912
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 7: wheedle this down to the bears of bones. Look, there's

913
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 7: millions of people watching us right now, and you know

914
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 7: they may watch film differently, right, the baseline, the baseline

915
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 7: of value appreciation. The baseline evaluation is like is he

916
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 7: winning matchup? Yeah, And I'm just seeing Scordon kind of

917
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 7: you know, he'll win sometimes, he'll power somebody sometimes, but

918
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 7: how did he overpower those guys?

919
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 5: So many folks do you see whipping folks in this

920
00:36:53,600 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 5: class though? Did he play Talison this here?

921
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: Sure?

922
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: Green Virginia che Prince.

923
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 5: But I mean, like, honestly, a lot of the guys

924
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 5: that have seen like who I saw whooping folks on

925
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 5: tape this yere aren't even eligible, Like Dylan Stewart of

926
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 5: South Carolina was whooping folks.

927
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: As a teenager.

928
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 6: Different from Jahen Walker sometimes Mike Green though, is number one.

929
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 7: Princely Uman Yelling got like President got like two secs

930
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 7: in some of the in some of the biggest games

931
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 7: that they've been in, he was he jumps off the

932
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 7: field to me, so scored And look to Bobby's point,

933
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 7: maybe the league sees them a little different. I just

934
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 7: saw some mock drafts here. I see some PFF thing

935
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 7: where he's in this. That's just me looking for names, right,

936
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 7: So I just see him up top and I'm like,

937
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 7: I don't this dude up top. I'm not seeing him

938
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 7: as an up top guy. I'll see him as a

939
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 7: round three kind of guy.

940
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 5: I don't know with any sort of certainty, having talked

941
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 5: to people that like the league takes scorting in the

942
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 5: first round, that maybe he could, but I don't. I

943
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 5: don't know that they do it.

944
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: I think it's.

945
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 4: Media buzz if that's the case, and if all the

946
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 4: film is playing out. I haven't watched to Miette's full disclosure,

947
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 4: so I think if all of you guys are agreeing

948
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: in that sense and you're starting to see it happen,

949
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: that makes me think it's just me.

950
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 5: I've heard more people around the league talk more positive

951
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 5: about Shamar Stewart than scored.

952
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: Interesting, has anybody talked positively about that? Ashton, Galott, Gallett,

953
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: Fred Louisville.

954
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 5: Got him yet? I need I need to ask around.

955
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 3: I haven't watched him yet.

956
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: I wat him Nicks, Yeah, see Ed Rusher. Yeah, he's

957
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: an edge rusher. I mean, like you said, does he wolf?

958
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: He whoops, folks. But I'll tell you what though, he's

959
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: not a sacker guy, Okay, but what he does is

960
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: like he he like plays the run great Okay, so

961
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: you can move him inside. Yeah, I mean I would

962
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: take a guy like that, did I know? Like, I

963
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: think I could do something with this cat.

964
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 4: I want to hear more about that, and I want

965
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: to hear another couple round of names when we come back.

966
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: I forgot we got to get out of forty five

967
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: since we rescheduled this show. So when we come back,

968
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,839
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Speaker 6: Uh, Okay, guys that we haven't necessarily talked about already, Okay,

1029
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 6: I mentioned him at the end of last segment.

1030
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: I'll talk about JTT JT. Towey Maloaw the edge from

1031
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: Ohio State.

1032
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 6: And this is a guy that reminds me a little

1033
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 6: bit of ajs epinessa from Iowa that came out a

1034
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 6: couple of years ago and he ended up he was

1035
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 6: getting first round buddy when the second round, and I

1036
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 6: think Jtt's another guy that's going to go in the

1037
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 6: second round. I'd be very excited if he slid to

1038
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 6: the Cowboys range there. Reminds me a little of what

1039
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 6: you have in Kneeland to where I don't know if

1040
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 6: this is a guy that's ever going to be a

1041
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 6: double digit sack artist at the next level, but he

1042
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 6: does everything well. He's just a well rounded edge. I

1043
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 6: think he's impressive. He's got a great bull rush, gets

1044
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 6: a good jump off the ball, you can crash down

1045
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 6: the line, play the running game, use his hands really well,

1046
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 6: rarely gets knocked off the line of scrimmage. Is a

1047
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 6: guy that holds his round to the point of attack.

1048
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 6: He's not going to get moved. Plays with instincts and awareness.

1049
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 6: He's got a hell of a playoff right now for

1050
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 6: Ohio State. So that's a guy like if you don't

1051
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 6: take an edge rusher or a defensive end in the

1052
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 6: first round, which I don't think they're going to do.

1053
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: I'd love Mike Green there.

1054
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 6: At twelve, but JTT would be a name in the

1055
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 6: second round if he's available that I would be very

1056
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 6: very interested in.

1057
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Dion Walker Kentucky. Now what position? Tackle?

1058
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: Tackle?

1059
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: Defensive tackle? Now, I think he's a very interesting.

1060
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: Trying to get your coaches fired, aren't you?

1061
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: Yes? What's he?

1062
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 5: Brian?

1063
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 7: That's so look so so look with with this guy,

1064
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 7: you're either gonna get your coaches fired or they gonna

1065
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 7: get raised.

1066
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: Oh we getting lake houses.

1067
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 9: Man.

1068
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: I see this dude.

1069
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 7: He comes off the line of scrimmage big as hell,

1070
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 7: hu Mungus birsty length like like he plays everywhere like

1071
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 7: he's what sixty five six four or something like that,

1072
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 7: three fifty six six, three forty five. They'll put him

1073
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 7: at edge, they'll put him at one zero three five,

1074
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 7: wherever you want to put him. Him everywhere, And he

1075
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 7: looks like a devastating, clear cut first round talent. But

1076
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 7: he's not in my first round because he only looks

1077
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 7: like this sometimes and other times he looks like he's

1078
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 7: just kind of standing up. He has these aggressive loafs.

1079
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 7: He look very laboring. Sometimes sometimes he looks the other

1080
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 7: L word, which is lazy. I don't quite know what

1081
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 7: it is. Had a conversation with Dane and said, well, vice,

1082
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 7: because he played so much, he's tired. But to get

1083
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 7: your ass in shape, you know what I'm saying, If

1084
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 7: you're going to be a guy that we're counting on,

1085
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 7: you might have to play fifty or sixty snaps or

1086
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 7: something like that. Right, So he's a guy to where

1087
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 7: you have to figure out and when we're going through

1088
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 7: these you know, combines and all this kind of stuff,

1089
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 7: coaches talking to him, they're gonna have to ask him like, hey,

1090
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 7: why were you loafing aggressively right here?

1091
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 9: Right?

1092
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 7: And if he wasn't super low guy, he'll be a

1093
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 7: first round kind of guys. First round Like if you

1094
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 7: wouldn't that kind of dude or whatever. So I think

1095
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Speaker 7: if you draft him and you take him, and you

1096
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 7: got faith in him and you can rally around him

1097
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 7: and give him hugs and love, I think he could

1098
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 7: be a fantastic elite type player for you. If that

1099
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 7: bad side doesn't come off on.

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00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 6: Nicknamed d one from in high school, they started to

1101
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 6: calling him d one just carried on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, dud. The dude's an absolute Yeah, he is

1103
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Speaker 2: a menace.

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Speaker 6: I love he's a guy he's always looking at those

1105
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 6: big paws up and not try and bat a ball.

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00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 2: Down, and he usually does it. I mean, Dean Walking.

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Speaker 6: He might end up getting some picture in the NFL

1108
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 6: defensive tackle with how big he is.

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Speaker 3: Boby, what's the word around the league on him?

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Speaker 5: I've not heard on him yet there, it's so early

1111
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: in the process too, Like I mean, there's a couple

1112
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Speaker 5: guys that I've either had to ask about specifically. He'll

1113
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 5: he'll be one that I asked around about though. Uh,

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Speaker 5: Marvin Overshowing's in this draft and he plays for UCLA.

1115
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Speaker 5: And that's Carson Schwessinger. Yeaher he is. He's he's going

1116
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 5: to be the first linebacker off the board in all likelihood,

1117
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 5: and he's somebody that there. There wasn't a lot of

1118
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 5: buzz about him until the last I want to say,

1119
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 5: what like six weeks. It really started picking up in

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Speaker 5: draft circles. Butchwessinger at UCLA is same sort of build,

1121
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 5: same sort of body type. It's that same sort of

1122
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 5: hot motor is overshown there are times where, yeah, when

1123
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: somebody gets a block on him, like he has trouble

1124
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 5: dis engaging. He is a thinner built guy, he's like

1125
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 5: six five something like that. But he's somebody who really

1126
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 5: good sideline to sideline speed, somebody who's really good in pursuit,

1127
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 5: somebody who sees everything quickly processes it and attacks. I

1128
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 5: think that he's really good other than like I said,

1129
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 5: some times where he gets handled in blocks, when when

1130
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 5: a bigger guy gets on him, or some other times

1131
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 5: where he's a little too hot and there's some over

1132
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 5: pursuit and there's some cutback lanes, but that doesn't happen

1133
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 5: a ton with him. I think he's really good and

1134
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 5: he's gonna start building a lot of buzz.

1135
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Speaker 2: Swessinger it's a great name too. That's excited absolutely.

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Speaker 4: All right, We got to get out of here because

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Speaker 4: there's another show after us today. Glad we were able

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Speaker 4: to make it up though after the snow day, everybody,

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Speaker 4: we'll be back tomorrow Thursday. Three episodes of the Draft

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Speaker 4: Show this week. This is the most content you're gonna

1141
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 4: get until we get to Senior Bowl week, and then

1142
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Speaker 4: you're gonna get a ton of content moving forward. Senior

1143
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Speaker 4: Bowl and Shrine Bowl. I want to mention both of those.

1144
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Speaker 4: Since the Shrine Bowl is here in Dallas. We've got

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Speaker 4: plenty more coming your way. One hundred and one.

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Speaker 2: Days away from the NFL Draft for Zach.

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00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: Walchuck Bryan brought us Vatch Lombardi, Bobby Belton, Chris Beam

1148
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Speaker 4: in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so.

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Speaker 2: Long, We'll see you tomorrow with more of the Draft Show.

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