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We'll also have that if you didn't 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: get a chance to get in earlier in the program, 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: you'll have another chance to do so. So that's a 30 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: great thing to chime in as the last call. But 31 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: chiming in are people on the on the YouTube right, 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Rob g. 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: Oh, they're always chiming in the youtub two be into 34 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: the odd mob. The greatest fan base in the history 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: of sports. Got a lot of thoughts on a lot 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: of different topics. Let's start for hour one. We talked 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 4: about Doc Rivers potentially getting in the Hall of Fame, 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: and Lester says Docs shouldn't even be considered for a 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: coach again, let alone the Hall of Fame for not 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 4: allowing Tim Duncan's father to be on the team bus 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: or the plane. 42 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 5: It wasn't it was just right. But still you had Tim. 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: Duncan right there, Timmy, Tracy McGrady, Red Hill, no idiot, 44 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: I know all three of them were going to Orlando. 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 5: It was crazy. 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: That was gonna be crazy. Now, granted grey Hill might 47 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: not have made it, but team back at Tim Duncan 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: with nuts. 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 6: Yep. 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 4: Then here's another one. Boxy Brown says, we all know 51 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: Kelvin is the black ned Flanders. 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: Hey, I'll keep I'll roll with that. I'll keep that. 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: I think that's a good one. I think that's a 54 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 4: really good one. And this is not. 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: Hey, as long as I look like that with my 56 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: shirt off too. You know them episodes when New Flanders 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: ripped up. I gotta get like that. 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: I gotta She hasn't seen you with your shirt off, 59 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: so she's assuming that you don't look like that. 60 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 5: I'm just okay, I'm sorry about that. 61 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: And this last one, it's not funny, but I'd be remissive. 62 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: I didn't read it because this kind of seems to 63 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: be the running joke of rolling Tiger Woods Troll. The 64 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 4: troll says all Tiger Woods needs is a driver. 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 5: He does need a driver. 66 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you catch the joke though, right, what Rob Golf 67 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: a driver, That's what I'm saying. 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 5: But no, play golf. 69 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 70 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 4: I got video evidence of Rob golfing. 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 5: We golf together in Florida at the Super Bowl I 72 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: know what a driver. 73 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: If you don't text me this aceep, I need to 74 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: see this right now. 75 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 5: I made all the parts he did. 76 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: Robins just vibes in the golf cart, no meeting balls. 77 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: But when he got to the green money on the 78 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: dance floor, I got to give. 79 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: Rob some credit. Rob G. It may be the most awkward, 80 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: weird bowling mechanism I've ever seen. 81 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: It's called English. That's my English. 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: No, but it's it's your whole body exactly if you're 83 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: looking at YouTube. It's not most people. Just the ball 84 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: has the English put a little spin on it. Rob's 85 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: whole body like walks up, shakes and I don't know, 86 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: how have you ever seen the ball, rob Gi? 87 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: I have not. 88 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: It is the weirdest. 89 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 5: Always wind up in the next lane when I'm done through. 90 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: It, well he really does. He literally does. 91 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: Start in the center and not the way that my 92 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: ball goes. I drift off to the right and usually 93 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: wind up in the next lane. 94 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: But he likes you would think he was off that 95 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: tiger because he like staggers, and he ends up in 96 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: another lane. But usually it's eight nine or strike. I 97 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: got it is weird. You don't think it's gonna work. 98 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: Imagine Charles Barkley swing rob G but it actually he hit. 99 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: That's okay, now I visualize what you want, but I 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 4: hit it. 101 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm not Yeah, he actually is present's birthday. Yeah, shouts 102 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: to Timothy. And I was tim Parker had a birthday 103 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: a couple of years back, and looking at Rob like, 104 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: oh is he okay? Is he gonna fall? And every 105 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: time he bowled pretty well, and it was like, oh, 106 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: it's just that's just the way he bowled. 107 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 5: My English. 108 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 4: They just quick put a pin on this one. Frederick says, Nah, Rob, 109 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: you line. You know you didn't get it the first time. 110 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 6: What do you think? 111 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: I just thought, even that's crazy that you think I 112 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: don't know what a driver is. 113 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: No, it's one to make sure. Just the way you 114 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: said it was like you literally went to the actual 115 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: someone driving. 116 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: No, I didn't mean no, I know what I know 117 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: the jokes and he just said to put a cap 118 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: on it. 119 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 5: And it's not funny. 120 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 4: I got it all right. 121 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: Make sure we gotta go bowling one day. So he 122 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: robbed you so you can see it. I don't know 123 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: how you do you bowl? Rob you? 124 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 4: I mean I like bowling. I wouldn't say I bowl, 125 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: but yeah. 126 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you grow up in l A. You don't bowl 127 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: like that. 128 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: No, you don't go you're staying inside. You're going outside 129 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: if you live in LA in the winter, Troy or whatever. 130 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: All these bad days, you gotta go do something. But 131 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: ring that kind of stuff just because it's cold out. 132 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: There's a lot of that stuff is where it comes from. Birthday. 133 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: Your birthday is January eighth. What we gonna do, right, 134 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: So you gotta go bullet if you're an eight year old, 135 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: ten year old, twelve year old. Yeah. 136 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of the Midwest, the Lions have made some 137 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: noise and news. 138 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: Rob g Yeah, the Lions are the team of the 139 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: odd couple. That's all I'm calling him. See them and 140 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: the Pistons. We are represented well here in Detroit. They're 141 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: back in the headlines. Thank you Alex. 142 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 5: There, thank you Mason. 143 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: Back in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. Now, 144 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: as you all know, all Pro center Frank rag now 145 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 4: retired with two years remaining in his contract. What you 146 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: may not know is that the Detroit Lions made an 147 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 4: attempt and it looks like they're gonna succeed in clawing 148 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 4: back portions of his signing bonus that they paid before 149 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: he retire because he did not fulfill the right rest 150 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: of his contract. Team President Roy would confirm that decision, 151 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 4: saying that the team has precedent to do so. Here's 152 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: what he said to the Detroit Free Press quote, our 153 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 4: president goes all the way back to Barry Sanders, and 154 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: if Barry Sanders paid back money, I think the reality 155 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 4: is they're not paying back all their money. They're returning 156 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: our money because they were paid in advance for services 157 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: that they had not completed. It's the lion's money, it's 158 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: not the player's money. Period. 159 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 5: I don't agree with the Lions a lot, but I 160 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 5: agree with the Lions here, and I just don't understand 161 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 5: if you sign a deal and you don't fulfill that 162 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 5: that bonus money has to go back. Barry paid it. 163 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: I actually not tooting my own horn, but I broke 164 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: the story that Barry Sanders had paid back the Lions. 165 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: If you look in the Detroit News, we had a 166 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: one story that I broke because I've got a chance 167 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: to talk to Barry and he told me that he 168 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: paid the money back. I was like a point of 169 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: contention came right from the horse's mouth, and I think 170 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: it's just right because that money can go to a 171 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: bonus for somebody else. You don't get to keep the 172 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: entire amount of money when you decide to quit or whatever. 173 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: Alvin Johnson he did the same thing. He had a 174 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: big standoff with the lines. Eventually paid it back. He 175 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: thought that they were gonna give him a bonus for 176 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: walking out on them, like. 177 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: I just like to me, even Calvin would that was 178 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 5: his decision. 179 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: He wanted to stop for playing football, which is fine, 180 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that, but I'm not gonna I'm 181 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: not gonna celebrate. 182 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 5: You for quitting, you know what I mean, or pay 183 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 5: you for not working. 184 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense the same way, and 185 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna flip it. Juan Soto had a baby because 186 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: the Yankees wouldn't give him a sweet. 187 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 5: They would give him seven hundred and. 188 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: Something thirty million dollars, but he still wanted a free suite, 189 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: which is how the Yankees make their money. 190 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 5: And the Yankee said, wait a minute. 191 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: Derek Jeter paid for his family suite, Aaron Judge paid 192 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: for his family suite, and you have to pay for 193 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: what would that look like that we're we would be 194 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: giving you a free sea, and these legendary players who 195 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: came before you had to pay. 196 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 5: Like it's not the Yankees being cheap. 197 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: Oh, they should have given them the Swede and they 198 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: would have been able to know because you set a precedent. 199 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: And if Barry Sanders pays the money back and Calvin 200 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson, Calvin Johnson pays the money back to Hall 201 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: of Famers, then everybody has to pay the money back. 202 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: See, And you brought it up, and that's why you're wrong, Rob, 203 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 2: You were there. What happened when Barry Sanders retired and 204 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: the money and retired and the bad mojo Barry didn't 205 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: come back for years. Nobody knew where he was. He was, 206 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: The team was fractured. 207 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 5: He was high hinting the money. 208 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: Half full of years later, Calvin Johnson bad, the team, 209 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: the mojo's bad. They suck. Like to me, I look 210 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: at it as you know, what what were we doing 211 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: those years that Barry retired and those years at Calvin 212 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: Johnson We were not being good. We were bad football 213 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: team ultimately or mid at best. And I want to 214 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: change the mojo. I want to do something different. This 215 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: is how we were operating for years and this is 216 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: how it was getting us nowhere to oh and sixteen 217 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 2: or three, and you know back then it was only 218 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: sixteen games, three and thirteen and four and twelve and 219 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: all that stuff. Seven and nine at best. I want 220 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: to get back to baby doing business differently. So whatever 221 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: we thought we would have done that consisted of what 222 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: we would have done, then I'm gonna change it and 223 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: not do it. And I know it's some money, and 224 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: I know we can use it. This It's not a 225 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: crazy amount of money. I think it's like, what is 226 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: it one to five or something like that. I'm sure 227 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: you can find a way to stretch it out over 228 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: some years. Whatever I'm to say, we want to be 229 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: the place where we have bury back right he's just 230 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: now getting back, you know, this being around the team, 231 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: excited to be a lion, Calvin Johnson around the team, 232 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 2: this new regime under Dan Campbell, Brad Holmes the general manager, 233 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: like they have a new thing going. I want to 234 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: keep that up. I want to keep this new mojo, 235 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: the way we're conducting things, the way we've changed the organization. 236 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: And if we got a guy who've played his heart 237 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: out for us right now, was playing through a fracture. 238 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: But your argument doesn't make sense because those guys paid 239 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: their money back and and the organization turned around, so 240 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: they don't have like they're not in some some bad 241 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: mojo that it was like a no no, no no. 242 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: But but I'm saying those guys gave their money back 243 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: and and it and it didn't change anything. 244 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: Right, those guys gave the money back and they stunt. 245 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is just operate as. We're gonna do 246 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: things classy, We're gonna do things as you're a part 247 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: of us. You you blood, sweat and tears. Again, it's 248 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: not like it's a hundred million. He's walking away one 249 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars and you bet a fractured throat and 250 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: you played through that for us. You meant so much 251 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: to us. You were heart and sold his team. We 252 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 2: know that offensive line for a handful of years was 253 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: what really what made the Lions go, We're gonna honor you, 254 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: we respect you, we got you. I'm not saying they 255 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: have to, but that would be cool to me, especially 256 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: with something like this where it's not crazy amount of money, 257 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 258 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 5: Obviously it's not crazy. You didn't give it back. You didn't. 259 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: You didn't complete crazy for the team. 260 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 5: The football said crazy for family. 261 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: I think they got it right. 262 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 5: No, it ain't about that. 263 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: It's about how you treat everybody should be in those circumstances. 264 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 5: Because if it's that and that's sit. 265 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: You were there. They treated Verry wrong, and you know 266 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 2: you didn't. 267 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 5: Treat Arry wrong. They did not was a lot of. 268 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: Money, perception, his perception. 269 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 5: Paying it back. I don't. They didn't do anything that 270 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 5: was to me was wrong. 271 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: He signed a signing bonus that was for seven years 272 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: and he only played four. That's three years. You got 273 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: to give the other money back. It's just that simple. 274 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: That's why they shouldn't do it like that. But they 275 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: give them money up front so that you can draw 276 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: interest on it. 277 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 5: I'm serious, Like I hear you on that. 278 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying I totally get it from a 279 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: you know, uh just a Ledger standpoint. Right, Well, this 280 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: is what we gave you. We only got this my time, 281 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: giving some money back. I'm saying from a dango change 282 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: in of regime, changing a proto protocol and mojo switch 283 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: it up. Back then he was you lost the best 284 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: running back than ever. He ain't like you for fifteen years, 285 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: he ain't come around. Same thing with Calvin Johnson did 286 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: come on for years. Finally you got some good stuff going. 287 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: Keep the good mojo, keep the good energy, keep the 288 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: building of this being a place where former Lions want 289 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: to be around. They love it. That's all I'm saying. 290 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: I get the logistics or the legality of well, technically, 291 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: we owe you this and you owe us that. I 292 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: get that, But I'm just saying from a camaraderie, we 293 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: got you. You put it all on the line for. 294 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: A standpoint eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight 295 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Should 296 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: the Lions have asked for Frank Ragnow's signing bonus after 297 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: he retired eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. We'll 298 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: continue that conversation next with you. It is the odd 299 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: couple where we deliver insight, not noise right here on 300 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Stick and stay America. 301 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 302 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 3: the nation. 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It was Robles to say, for sure, 321 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: thank you for all the calls earlier. We got Antonio 322 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: Daniels coming up here in a little bit a d 323 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: be good to chop it up with him. Looking forward 324 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: to that and with the iHeartRadio app, you can stream 325 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: us wherever you happen to be. 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They're a former offensive lineman who 335 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: retired on them, and they're saying they need that money back. 336 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: Rob says, is part for the courses is perfectly fine. 337 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: I say, dang it, change it up. You did Bury 338 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: like that? You did Calvin Johnson. They ain't come around 339 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: the Lions for so long. You got a good thing going. 340 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: Don't ruin it. Don't ruin the Mojoe. What's say you? 341 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, who we got? 342 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: Let's kick it off with Leon in Michigan. You're on 343 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: the couple of Fox Sports Radio. 344 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 5: What's up, Leon? How are you? 345 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 9: I'm good? I'm good. Hey, I grew up. I'm almost 346 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 9: six years old and as a Lion stand forever, and 347 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 9: honestly I have a different take. I think that the 348 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 9: Lions shouldn't even have to ask him for that money. 349 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 9: He's not living up to the contract he signed. He 350 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 9: should offer it back and if they want to give 351 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 9: it to him, that's fine, but it's on him. He 352 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 9: didn't live up to that that deal. 353 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 5: I'm with you, and it's no disrespect. 354 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't think if he has hard feelings that he did, 355 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: he would quit or retired, whatever you want to call it. 356 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: And he still wanted the entire amount of money. I 357 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: just don't understand that. 358 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 6: It's not his right. 359 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 5: You didn't earn it, Like there's a is there part 360 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 5: that you have to earn the money. He didn't earn it. 361 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 10: I get it, right, I told I get it, And 362 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 10: if they want to give it to him, I'm I'm happy. 363 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 10: I don't care to give it to him, but he 364 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 10: should offer it back and if if they want him 365 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 10: to keep it, fine, that's great. But he didn't earn it, 366 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 10: so no, he doesn't. He's not entitled to. 367 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 5: It, No, one hundred percent. I'm with you right there. 368 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: Thanks for the call. 369 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: Appreciate that sometimes just because you can't, you don't have to, right, 370 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: you can be like, you know, I know that's our money. 371 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: We technically as ours, But go had man, you was 372 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: one of our, one of the ones. 373 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Okay, you paid your nanny in advance, and then she 374 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: decides that she's gonna miss when you guys go on 375 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: vacation and you go still say keep going. 376 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: Right now, you picked it back. You could have picked something. No, no, no, no, 377 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: come on, Rob, vacation. 378 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 5: She left early. 379 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: She said, I'm skipping out on the last two weeks 380 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: of the deal you paid me in advance for Dwight, right. 381 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm at her front. I'm at her front of her 382 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: house right there. 383 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: That's right, Dwight in Nashville. You're in the odd couple 384 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: of Fox sportsudio. What's up, Dwight? 385 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 11: Rob you right, man, there needs to be a level 386 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 11: of integrity maintain. I mean, we're seeing lack of integrity 387 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 11: in these rafts during these games. I mean, he was 388 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 11: giving the money, he signed the deal. He should live 389 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 11: up to it. He's retiring early getting the money back. 390 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 11: That's right, Kelvin. 391 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all right. I still love you any right, 392 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: right right. 393 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 11: I still love him too, Kevin. But listen, the reason 394 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 11: I really called because it's trashed off Tuesday. 395 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 6: Man. 396 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 11: What and that's got me thinking about yacht. John Moran 397 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 11: down there at the Grizzlies. You know, he making off 398 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 11: with thirty nine point four million. 399 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: He ain't playing of time. 400 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 11: Played, He's only played seventy four games out of the 401 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 11: two hundred and forty and it's. 402 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 3: His three year career. 403 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 11: You know, incident down No, that is right, that incident 404 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 11: down in wolf Chase mall got punished for it. Had 405 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 11: had to buy five hundred tickets for fans, right that 406 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 11: that didn't solve the issue. He's like, oh, you know 407 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 11: what I'll do. I would buy a house in Miami 408 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 11: when the trade port were overed up. I guess what 409 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 11: nobody was buying that. Nobody took the bait, nobody took 410 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 11: the baby. Because I'm wondering what I'm rob about, and Kevin, 411 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 11: I'm wondering what y'all think about John Moran. I think 412 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 11: they need you know, they still got two years left 413 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 11: on the contract, like another eighty eight million. 414 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why nobody been and you and you know what, 415 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: here's the other part is to be honest is probably 416 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: scare people away because he doesn't feel like he's remorse 417 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: full or you know what I mean, or he understands 418 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: what he's doing Really he. 419 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: Is just very just grown up right now with the league. 420 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: He's played in three hundred and twenty seven games, just 421 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: to be clear. 422 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 5: Over the last maybe a couple of years, right, And 423 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 5: is that what he's doing. 424 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'm saying total history. Yeah, he's played 425 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: only in twenty this year, only twenty games. I think 426 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: the challenge to your point, Rob with John Morant is 427 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 2: there's guys who go through a tough time, but you 428 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: believe in him or you know or them and like 429 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: what they bring, right, I think people are starting to 430 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: not believe in him. Not the talent, not the capability. 431 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: No, but he but he doesn't get like when somebody 432 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: doesn't get what they've done wrong understanding you can make 433 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: a mistake, like you know what I mean, and you apologize, 434 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: you realize I can't do this. But if you have 435 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: somebody who refuses to acknowledge that what they did was wrong, 436 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: I think that's hard. And then are you gonna go 437 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: pick up eighty some of one million dollars for a 438 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: guy who won't even acknowledge that he made a mistake 439 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: after the league suspended him. 440 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just been you know, getting into it with 441 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: teammates obviously, and then you know, I don't know. It 442 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: just seems like he's just grunner right now. I remember he 443 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: did the whole up and down through of the season. 444 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: I ain't happy right now. I lost my joy and 445 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: when I'm back now, I lost my joy. And those 446 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: types of things teams don't want to hear. They're like, 447 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: I don't mind you having a bad streak shooting that happens, 448 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: but you up and down with the love of the 449 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: game and all that. They don't want to hear that. 450 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 2: I think that doesn't vote. 451 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 6: Well. 452 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: He could have made a nineties song with that. What's 453 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: I say, joy Side Sid, Yeah, that's an all time 454 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: classes right there. All right, appreciate the calls, everybody, all 455 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: right on the way, Antonio Daniels will talk to him, 456 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: maybe even bring up John to him in just a moment. 457 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: Steven Saga getting you caught up on what's trending, Hey, Steve. 458 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 459 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio dot 460 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen 461 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: live right now. 462 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: Antonio Daniels, he is an NBA champion, serious sex of 463 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: NBA radio host, Pelicans TV analyst, Fox Sports radio NBA analysts. 464 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: Every day he's hustling a d what's up, bro? 465 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 6: But what's up, fellow? 466 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 5: What's happening? 467 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: How are you? 468 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 6: I am blessed, I am blessed. 469 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: How are you guys doing great? Man? Blessed as well? 470 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: Brother as always? Man, Hey, jump in on this real quick. 471 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: We had a whole different, separate topic going with. Somebody 472 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: randomly just brought up John Moran, So I said, dang it, 473 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna ask, add this, Where are 474 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: we with with Jah Moran? Just two three years ago? 475 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: Number two seed, the young fun Grizzlies, watch out for them? 476 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: Then it just goes back. He goes from jo John 477 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: Moran to joh Wick he has some issues and injuries. 478 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: Now is this grown up during the season where he's like, 479 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't got my joy anymore? Where are we with 480 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: Jah who was supposed to be one of the young 481 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: guns and one of the things no pun intended and 482 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: yes faces of this league? 483 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 6: Well I don't. I mean, it's hard to tell. It 484 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 6: seemed like throughout the course of this year him and 485 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 6: Tomasslo that there was a disconnect. I mean, obviously, Ja 486 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 6: Morant did the whole. He did the whole. Uh, I 487 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 6: don't want to play in spurts and Tomasa slo was 488 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 6: playing guys in four minutes first. Jah Moran didn't like that, 489 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 6: so there was a disconnect between the two. I don't 490 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 6: know what it looks like. Over the summer, there were 491 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 6: rumors that they were trying to move him, but they 492 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 6: didn't like what they were hearing in return. I mean, heck, 493 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 6: we've seen this. Look what the Atlanta Hawks got for 494 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 6: Trey Young. You know, you look at some of these 495 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 6: packages that stars are now getting now, and I mean 496 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 6: it's respectfully, but non stars are getting better packages with 497 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 6: them alongside them than stars are well, because. 498 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 5: There's a lot of headache and money. 499 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 6: Right, That's right, that's right, You're exactly right. Look at 500 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 6: what Michael Bridges got, and look at what Desmond bang 501 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 6: got and some of these other guys got, and then 502 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 6: like even point them, look at what Luke got. Right, 503 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 6: you know, you one of the one of the brightest 504 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 6: stars in the league. So it comes down to a 505 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 6: point where either they're going to keep them and try 506 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 6: and build with him, or they're going to move him 507 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 6: and try and rebuild, and they're they're going to have 508 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 6: to take pennies on the dollar. Who knows. 509 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: I'll look at uh the NBA MVP. We have this 510 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: in every sport, right What is the MVP? Antonio Daniels, 511 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: You played the league, you cover league, all league, all that. 512 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: What's the MVP to you? Is it the best guy? Me? 513 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: Best team? Is it the you know, guy who has 514 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: the best scoring of What is an MVP to you? 515 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: How do you describe? Because it seems like we. 516 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 6: Have this conversation difficult it is, and it's very difficult. 517 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 6: I tell you this. I can't like, I can't give 518 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 6: you guys a criteria, but I can tell you for me, 519 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 6: the MVP right now is a two man race. I 520 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 6: can tell you that much that there are other guys 521 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 6: that you can put in the conversation. You can put 522 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 6: Luca in the conversation. You can put Dann Brown in 523 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 6: the conversation. You can put Jokis in the conversation. If 524 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 6: Kate Cunningham would would qualify, you can put him in 525 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 6: the conversation. But to me, right now, it's a two 526 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 6: man race, and whoever finishes in first, to me, will 527 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 6: be the MVP, and that two man race is Shay Yods, 528 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 6: Alexander and Victor woman Yama. Why winning counts, I don't 529 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 6: think that you can you can do a m VP 530 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 6: and simply say, well, you know what, it's statistically based. 531 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 6: I'm not big on that. If it's something that you 532 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 6: know years ago, when Russell Westbrook. 533 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 5: Lat history, that's history. I agree with you. 534 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: Like people said that he didn't deserve it, and I disagreed, 535 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: especially Antonio, Like when he got triple doubles, their record 536 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: was really. 537 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 5: Good, so it was not like exactly exactly. 538 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: If it was the other way around and they were 539 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: winning seventeen percent of the time when he had a 540 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: triple double, then I would look at it differently. 541 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 5: But they were winning when he played, so I. 542 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 6: Agree with you more. And this is one of the 543 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 6: this is one of the awards where winning matters, right, 544 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 6: winnings to count, Like in Rookie of the Year, winning 545 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 6: to me doesn't matter because you're getting drafted. 546 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 5: You're on a bad team, right, right, You're on. 547 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 6: A bad team. I get it. But in this particular case, 548 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 6: when you're talking about the league's MVP, and here's the thing, 549 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 6: I think of the MVP like boxing for me. You 550 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 6: know how, if you go in and you fight the champ, 551 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 6: you don't want it to go to the scorecards. You don't. 552 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 6: You got to beat the champs. You'd rather mean exactly, 553 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 6: I got to knock the champ out. So for bigger women, 554 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 6: Yama or anyone else to surpass Jay Good as Alexander 555 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 6: when he's doing what he's doing. Now, you have to 556 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 6: finish with the best record in the league. 557 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 5: Let's go here. 558 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: The reports are that Doc Rivers is going to be 559 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame. We understand it's 560 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: not the NBA Hall of Fame, And I wrote a 561 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: piece for ESPN dot Com. I'm telling you, like eighteen 562 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: or twenty years ago that the league should start its 563 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: own Hall of Fame and it shouldn't be lumped in 564 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: with the Basketball Hall of Fame. But anyway, Doc Rivers 565 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: is going to be inducted. What are your thoughts on him? 566 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't think he should get in. Kelvin, I think 567 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't think he should get in, but will get in. 568 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't he will, but I don't. 569 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, did you think Mari Stottomeyer should be in? 570 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: No? 571 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 5: I don't think so. 572 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: I could go I could go on and on and on, 573 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: and I get it because it's not the NBA Hall 574 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: of Fame, and I get it. 575 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 6: But also this is my issue with the Hall of Fame. 576 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 6: So I'll ask you guys this question, guys that are 577 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 6: currently in the Hall of Fame, that Doc Rivers has 578 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 6: a better coaching career. 579 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: Then yes, I brought up Rick Adelman. 580 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 6: There you go. 581 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: That's all that matters, all right, But Bill fit the way, 582 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: but Bill Fitch isn't. And Bill Fitch won a championship 583 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: with Boston and took Houston to the championship. I can 584 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: name you know, the guys who are not in the 585 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame who have had similar careers are better 586 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: than Doc. 587 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. 588 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 6: But but I don't I get what you're saying. But 589 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 6: we're not talking about Bill Fitch though you asking me about. 590 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 5: Right here, let me ask let me ask you this point. 591 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 5: What I'm just I think I want to get your thoughts. 592 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: I think Doc gets in if he was blowing the 593 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: three to one leads early in his career, couldn't get 594 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: over the hump one late in his career, right, and 595 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: we have a different feel for him that he got 596 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: over the hump, he was a good coach. 597 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 5: He finally won a championship the. 598 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: Other way around where he won in two thousand and eight, 599 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: and since then. When I think of right, when I 600 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: think of Doc Rivers, I think of failures, collapses, Okay, 601 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: bad playoff performance is there that That's That's how I 602 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: look at it, Okay. 603 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 6: And when I think of the Hall of Fame, I 604 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 6: think of the fact that there's no criteria, and I 605 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 6: think that the Hall of Fame, the criteria for the 606 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 6: Hall of Fame thinners more around the people that are 607 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 6: already in it. That's basically what it comes down to. 608 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 6: Like when somebody asked me, should this person be in 609 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame? My response generally is will is 610 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 6: there somebody already in the Hall of Fame that this 611 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 6: person that you're asking me about, that their their their resume? 612 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 6: It seeds or super seeds. 613 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: And mistakes are made, though, like just because a mistake, 614 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: like a mistake was made, somebody slipped in. 615 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 5: We have it in baseball, Okay. 616 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 6: Got a lot of mistakes. 617 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 5: Har Old Bain's got it. 618 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: Harold Bain's got in right, how bay and and he 619 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: got in by the Veterans Committee, not by the writers. 620 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 5: Okay, so there's a difference. 621 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: And the problem is when people look at his stats, right, 622 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: they go, I belong in, but they're mad at the 623 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: writers who didn't vote in Harrold Baines. 624 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 5: Do you understand what I'm saying it is? 625 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I completely. But here's the thing. Let me ask you, 626 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 6: guys this, what's the criteria for the NBA for the 627 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 6: Nations Hall of Fame? 628 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 5: I don't know what it is because Tracy Grady's in it. 629 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 6: That's the problem because now what happens is now it 630 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 6: becomes subjective. And when it becomes subjective, you're going to 631 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 6: have you're going to have guys that you feel shouldn't 632 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 6: be in. And guy, if there was a criteria in place, 633 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 6: if there was a criterion, play people tell me now, 634 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 6: there's no way possible. Draymon Greene is going to be 635 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 6: a Hall of Famer. It's going to be a ballot off. 636 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 5: That's that's crazy, Like they're crazy. 637 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 6: But my thing is, anytime there's no criteria, right, that's 638 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 6: going to that's going to raise eyebrows and going to 639 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 6: raise conversation. 640 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 2: I think it's criteria would be uh, Steph Curry Hall 641 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: of Famer. Yes, and all three of us. 642 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I mean Lebron like to me, to me, 643 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 5: but those the. 644 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 6: Guys are those are the guys that were questioning okay, 645 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 6: what about DeMar Derozen No, these are the guys that 646 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,239 Speaker 6: were questioning here. 647 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 5: But here's what's what. 648 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 6: About Kyler Lowry? 649 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: No? 650 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 5: I like it on my steak, but no, I don't 651 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 5: think so. 652 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 6: I'm just saying, all right, we're. 653 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 5: The hamw does get it? 654 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 6: Okay? Exactly? I hear you, I hear you. I am 655 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 6: simply saying because what I like to do is when 656 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 6: guys are still playing and they're a question mark. If 657 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 6: you go to Basketball Reference, they give you the percentage 658 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 6: of them making the Hall of Fame, Like he has 659 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 6: a sixty chance of making the Hall of. 660 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: The people who are in already in their numbers, they 661 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: look at it, right, I get it. My thing is 662 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: when I vote for the Baseball Hall of Fame, and Antonio, 663 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: one of my things is I got three magic numbers, 664 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,239 Speaker 1: and I'm not going right. 665 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 5: So five hundred home runs, three hundred wins. 666 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: What's the other one? Three thousand hits? And the other 667 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: one now is three thousand strikeouts? So if you get 668 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: one of those magic numbers, you automatically get my vote. 669 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: I don't even need to look at the rest of 670 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: the stats. 671 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 5: Okay, if you. 672 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 6: Get a magic number, Now, if you were voting for 673 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 6: the NBA, what would your magic number be? 674 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 5: I don't know. I'd have to take a look. And 675 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying. 676 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: We need something, yeah, like a magic number that you 677 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: reach so you can say, like if you get this 678 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: many points. Everybody who has and I'm just throwing out 679 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: a number, okay, everybody who has twenty eight thousand points 680 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: or twenty two thousand points. 681 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 5: They're all in the in the Hall of Fame. 682 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: Like in baseball, every picture, who every hit, who's got 683 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: five hundred home runs, who's not taint it with the steroids, 684 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: They're all in the Hall of Fame. 685 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 5: There's no there's no every single person. So that, okay, 686 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 5: that's what a measurement. 687 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 6: What about what about guys like Dennis Rodman. 688 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: Oh, you have to come absolutely, come on, no, no, no, 689 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: But he's saying he's talking about numbers. He's saying, like, 690 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: what what would you say the number criteria Player of 691 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: the year numbers will be? What is how many rings? 692 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: Does he have two, three, five? 693 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 6: What about Ben Wallace? What about Ben Wallace? I'm saying 694 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 6: this conversation could go on and yeah. 695 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, now ben Wallace. See Ben Wallace won four defensive 696 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: plate for in a row. So to me, he has hardware. 697 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: You gotta have hardware. You gotta be a. 698 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 5: Rookie of the year. You gotta be you know what 699 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 5: I mean? 700 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 6: Like to me, I'll give you guys one more really quick. 701 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 6: What about Derek RoCE? 702 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: Okay, no, and I'm taking down that stars rob and 703 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: got the man in his Jersey United Centers. Derek ro 704 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: shouldn't be No, he didn't play, he can't know, he 705 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: can't be eighty and it pain he robbed me just 706 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: because I have to set like if he gave me 707 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: two more years of what he was, he'd be in 708 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: if he gave me two years. But I have to 709 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: have some type of criteria standard as you're mentioning Hall 710 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: of Fame talent. That ain't debatable, right. 711 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 5: That's not the issue is whether or not he played 712 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 5: long enough. And you know what I mean to do it? 713 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 2: All right? 714 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 5: All right, Antonio, we gotta buy he I could do it. 715 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: Mean, I'm gonna have to call you. We're gonna spend 716 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: a hours of going through. 717 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 5: Antonio. Don't pick up the phone, Okay, please do. 718 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: Not rob up the phone just because you don't want 719 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: to talk me any want to talk to me? 720 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 6: Man? 721 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: All right? He he appreciate you, brother, all right, no 722 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: doubt that is tough. All right. You know I'm gonna 723 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: call rob G too. Rob G likes doing that. 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Don't be worried about what I wear. 756 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 5: In the last segment, he changes his jacket. 757 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: What I I'm just he tried what he tried to 758 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: act like, it's the same one because he has the 759 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: l A on the left chest now it was on 760 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: the right chest. 761 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: So it's like weird. 762 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 5: That's weird. Okay, go ahead. 763 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 4: It's like when you watch those movies and the guy 764 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 4: mole moves from side to side of his face. 765 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you must have been watching the Tyler Perry 766 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 2: movies in the wig will be on the left side. 767 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: On the right side, what we got Robbie. 768 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 4: You know, Ayda and Ivy. None of this is really 769 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: new because he's recorded all this over the last several days, 770 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 4: but it's now coming to light more and in response 771 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 4: to him getting waived by the Chicago Bulls, which by 772 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 4: the way, they're gonna pay him his full salary. So 773 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 4: Frank Rag, now eat your heart out because Jade Ivy 774 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 4: is getting ten million dollars. 775 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: But they just right, they just don't want, you know, 776 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: like I get it. It's like, thank you, we traded 777 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: for you, a guaranteed contract. When we cut, you got 778 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: to get paid. That's the NBA absolutely. 779 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 6: Well. 780 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 4: Most recently, Ivy, there's been a video circulating where he's 781 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 4: calling out Steph Curry saying that he's not a real 782 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 4: Christian and you know, condemning the commentary of Lebron James 783 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 4: and Michael Jordan, says none of their rings are going 784 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 4: to matter on judgment day if they don't know Jesus 785 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 4: and your name is not written in the Book of Life. 786 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 4: And then the one that's got a lot of people, 787 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 4: especially media members, up in arms, is apparently Jade and 788 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 4: Ivy on his way out the door, was asking reporters 789 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 4: both in Chicago and Detroit about their commitment to their 790 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 4: faith and whether or not they've come to light with Jesus, 791 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 4: more specifically, whether or not they've been having pre marital sex, like. 792 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: Like this is, this is I'm for it, but I'm concerned. No, 793 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm concerned. That's what I'm gonna say, Like there's something 794 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: like a mental health issue. And I'm not a doctor 795 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not having examined him. I'm just saying, when 796 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: you start to lash out at so many people and 797 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: people you don't you know, have a relationship with, just 798 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: start like the idea of youre asking sports writers did 799 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: they have pre marital sex? 800 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: It's just like almost let's want to start with if 801 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: you want to talk about the faith, the first thing, uh, 802 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 2: you have to get all biblical. But with the Pharisees 803 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 2: and they were trying to stone a woman blah blah blah, 804 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 2: and she just said he without saying cash. The first 805 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 2: stone point being it's not your job to be running 806 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: around and judging and and doing that like that. Now 807 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: you can have some iron shapeer and iron and you 808 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: know checking on some brothers with yours and the faith. 809 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 2: But my point is like this is sounding a bit 810 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 2: more problematic. There might be something much more deeper rooted, 811 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 2: and you know, hope he gets everything sorted out, because yeah, 812 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 2: this this doesn't sound like just a little bit of 813 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: a you know so I said one thing. Ooh, I'm sorry. 814 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: This sounds like a longer plot. 815 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 5: There's some issue going on set. Hopefully get some help. 816 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: The're hoping so man, all right, The Jason Smith Show 817 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: with Mike Harmon is coming up next. 818 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 3: I never miss your radio show. 819 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: I never hear it, so I never miss it. Did 820 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: you hear that?