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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds and Emmy Acton leads the bake Ramaswamy

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Speaker 1: by ten points in Ohio's governor race. We have such

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Speaker 1: a great show for you today, think like an economist's own.

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Speaker 1: Justin Wolfer stops by to talk about Trump's terrible instincts

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Speaker 1: destroying the United States economy.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll talk to.

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Speaker 1: Texas goubernan Toil candidate Gina Hinnajosa about her run to

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Speaker 2: But first the.

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Speaker 3: News Welling, We're going to have a collection of things

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Speaker 3: that I like to think of as a trove of

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Speaker 3: things that when I think of how President Trump could

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Speaker 3: wreck his presidency in his approval rating, the first one

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Speaker 3: that comes to mind is land invasion.

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Speaker 4: Of her On.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, wreck his presidency and more importantly, just

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Speaker 1: wreck the whole fucking world.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we are in it team.

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Speaker 1: This story is so important because it's fucking war and

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. So while Street Journal reports that the Pentagon

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Speaker 1: is moving additional marines and warships to the Middle East

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Speaker 1: as Iran steps up its attacks, on the Straits of Vermouth,

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Speaker 1: so three officials in the Pentagon. Pete Hegsath's weekend television host,

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Speaker 1: five thousand marines and sailors. This is a Japanese based

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Speaker 1: ship and it's coming to the Middle East. Here's what's happening.

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Speaker 1: And we're two weeks into a war that has no reason.

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Speaker 1: There is no reason for this war. And I've met

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Speaker 1: a lot of panels, with a lot of smart political people,

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Speaker 1: with you know, Tim Miller and James Carvill and this

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Speaker 1: one and that one, and the thing we keep saying

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Speaker 1: it's really important to talk about is that Democrats should

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Speaker 1: be saying the exact thing that every normal person is saying,

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Speaker 1: which is what the fuck we should not be in

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Speaker 1: this war.

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Speaker 2: There is no reason for this.

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Speaker 1: We're just burning billions of dollars every day for no reason.

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Speaker 2: There is no reason. Understand Aaran, this Ayatola not a

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Speaker 1: We don't like him, not good to the Ranian people,

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Speaker 1: but it's not our place to do this. The American

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Speaker 1: people elected Donald Trump because he said he was going

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Speaker 1: to end this kind of stuff, and instead he is

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Speaker 1: doing this, and it is infuriating, but also more importantly,

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Speaker 1: it's not what anyone wants. And Democrats should be loudly

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Speaker 1: condemning this war. And this is the kind of moral

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Speaker 1: leadership America desperately needs at this moment. So it's very annoying.

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Speaker 3: So, speaking of other ways to wreck your presidency, Inflation

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Speaker 1: Justin Wolfers and I hear this in the interview. We

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Speaker 1: Liberation Day, he just at every point he's done something

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Speaker 1: to hurt the economy. So the tariff's inflationary, expensive, slowing manufacturing.

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Speaker 1: People don't know what the landscape is going to look like,

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Speaker 2: It's just a.

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Speaker 1: Complete disaster, very very problematic for any number of reasons.

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Speaker 1: Then we have the tax cut, the one piece of

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Speaker 1: just a completely for cocta way to run the economy.

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Speaker 3: Is that the economists term for cocta.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And look, I want to say one thing. The

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Speaker 1: if you think about a kleptocrat who is desperate to

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Speaker 2: Power and blackmail his enemies.

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Speaker 1: And I think that you should stop thinking about this

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Speaker 3: there's some times we're doing this show and I'm I

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Speaker 1: I think when you see these articles, you have the

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Speaker 1: That's got to be like a clickbait headline and then

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, whoa.

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Speaker 1: So in eyebrow raising fundraising email was circulated Thursday by

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Speaker 1: a Trump affiliated super paw promising supporters a national security

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Speaker 1: briefing membership. This is like everything is for sale and

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration, including like our secrets. Does Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 2: Who else has it?

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Speaker 3: MEXINGI you know this is going to be his only fans.

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Speaker 1: for a minute. Donald Trump is raising money. He is

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Speaker 1: not running for president again, So why is he raising money?

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Speaker 1: Is he raising money to have a legal slush fund?

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Speaker 1: Is he raising money because he plans on not leaving?

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Speaker 1: Is he raising money? I mean a normal president would

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So the greatest cover up in American history, the

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein files. It seems that Trump has picked an

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Speaker 1: Jake Clayton, Donald Trump's pick to lead the District of

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Speaker 1: The Lever reports Clayton holds between one point five and

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Speaker 1: six million dollars worth of Apollo Global Management stock. Apollo

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Speaker 2: Run by Leon Black.

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Speaker 1: Leon Black is in the Epstein files, has settled with victims,

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Justin right, good.

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Speaker 4: To see you. You don't look like you're at home, Molly.

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Speaker 2: I am not at home.

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Speaker 1: I am in New Orleans at the wonderful book fair

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Speaker 4: To be here, wonderful, hanging out with the literary folks.

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Speaker 1: So justin American economy killing it?

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Speaker 4: So I think I should be used to the rhythm

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Speaker 4: of this by now. Molly, you're one of the few

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Speaker 4: people who always begins. They want to know where the

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Speaker 4: economy's at, So we'll start there. But by no means

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Speaker 4: is that the biggest story. You might have noticed other

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Speaker 4: Betsy and I sat at home hugging each other, crying,

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Speaker 1: This is the danger of a two economist family.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's great because with lots of other people,

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Speaker 4: Well that's true, and it's because we are we economists

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Speaker 1: Well anyway, continue on, continue on.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and we have a side by our conversation on

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Speaker 4: If not now. One day.

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Speaker 1: I asked for five shots and they were like, that's

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Speaker 4: Your ADHD medication at home? And this is just how

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Speaker 1: I don't have ADHD medication, as jesse Kin attest, all right.

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Speaker 4: So what's great is you didn't say I don't have ADHD.

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Speaker 4: It's just like medicate, give me five shots.

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Speaker 4: Well off, and then it turns out it was Denmont

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Speaker 2: But when you do happy Kevin, I worn't to remember.

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Speaker 1: Happy Kevin is Kevin Hassett, who will in fact sign

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Speaker 4: Even brings in prison some whole new lives wrapped in love.

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Speaker 4: But happier.

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Speaker 4: Without tariffs, this would be a disaster. Since Liberation Day,

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Speaker 3: It's normal.

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Speaker 4: You know, normal adult feelings. Moly, it's okay.

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Speaker 4: All right, go on, Yes, you forgot to say handsome.

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Speaker 4: Economies are not meant to lose jobs thereating them. They

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Speaker 4: We were talking about your feelings, Molley, not about my income. Okay.

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Speaker 4: The economy's in a job's recession. Jobs recession just means

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Speaker 2: Wait fourteen days ago.

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Speaker 4: Well, then they bummed a run.

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Speaker 4: So the story you hear most about is an oil story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now realize it's really important to realize. America may

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly did you mean it?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 1: I mean I, yes, Oh I came of eight and

444
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Speaker 1: where the age really came of age during Golf four

445
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Speaker 1: one and Golf four two. We know thatraphy there, right, Okay,

446
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Speaker 1: But so a lot of people are like, oh, the

447
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Speaker 1: Middle East, that's oil.

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Speaker 4: Let's just talk about oil now. What I want to

449
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Speaker 4: do is say, actually, this is a wool right. So

450
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Speaker 4: we just took about the oil channels. The old Channel's

451
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Speaker 4: not too bad for the US, it's terrible for the war.

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Speaker 1: Right. But but there's another thing I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about because I think it's really important that relates to

454
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Speaker 1: all of this, and Jesse's going to kill us, but whatever,

455
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Speaker 1: which is, when I was growing up and you were

456
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Speaker 1: growing up in the nineties, the Middle East did not

457
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Speaker 1: have the kind of tourism that it does now. And

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Speaker 1: it is there is like there is a lot of

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Speaker 1: money in the Middle East that is not related to oil,

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Speaker 1: and that's new in the last twenty years. And I

461
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Speaker 1: did it. I mean and tourism and people living there

462
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Speaker 1: to not pay taxes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say much of this is unrelated

464
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Speaker 4: to oil, which is they build these beautiful shining cities

465
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Speaker 4: in the desert with oil money and then it becomes

466
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Speaker 4: kind of interesting in don't.

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Speaker 1: Visit, right, But that so the point of this story

468
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Speaker 1: is that that also that affects that economy is being affected.

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Speaker 4: Right, Oh absolutely, the Middle East absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, and that has it's being affected because.

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Speaker 4: They're oil dependent. I mean, they can't get this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's affecting the larger American economy to have

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Speaker 1: that offline. And for example, like so much travel and

474
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Speaker 1: trade goes through Dubai and the Emirates and now travel

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Speaker 1: and trade and that's where we get to Hormos, the

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Speaker 1: Straits of Hermose. So let's go through that too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, right, so it turns out sorry, So when

478
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Speaker 4: I said Iran is an oil story, it's a lightly

479
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Speaker 4: more complicated oil story. So with a rock, we just

480
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Speaker 4: bummed the art.

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Speaker 2: It's a trade issue too, go on.

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Speaker 4: There's something called the stride of hormos. As of today,

483
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Speaker 4: everyone's in a reigning geography expert, particularly me. The Strait

484
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Speaker 4: is like four miles. If you want to get a

485
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Speaker 4: tanker at you to go through four miles. The point

486
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Speaker 4: about it being four miles across is you don't need

487
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Speaker 4: much of military to make it terrifying to go through.

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Speaker 4: And if you're the captain of a big tanker that's

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Speaker 4: full of oil, you prefer not to go places where

490
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Speaker 4: there are drones and mines want to blow you up. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 4: and you can't get insured, so once you die in flames,

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Speaker 4: you won't get a big payout either.

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Speaker 3: So Iran.

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Speaker 4: Roughly twenty percent of the world's oil goes through the Strait.

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Speaker 4: No one can send oil through the Strait. That means

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Speaker 4: folks are in the Middle East actually stopping their oil

497
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Speaker 4: production right now because all their storage facilities are full,

498
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Speaker 4: so there's no way to put the oil that supply

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Speaker 4: shock so there's less supply of oil under the world market,

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Speaker 4: and you might say, well, nothing's happening in the United

501
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Speaker 4: States wise, the price of oil and gas in the

502
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Speaker 4: United States going up, and the reasons very simple. For

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Speaker 4: an American oil company, if someone abroad will pay one

504
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Speaker 4: hundred bucks for a barrel, you'll never sell it to

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Speaker 4: an American for ninety nine a barrel. So we are

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Speaker 4: energy independent in the sense that we produce as many

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Speaker 4: barrels as we need, but where price dependent, because those

508
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Speaker 4: barrels are priced on world markets. As far as I

509
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Speaker 4: can tell, despite the fact that almost everyone's first instinct

510
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Speaker 4: when talking about the Middle East is to say oil, oil, sharks,

511
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Speaker 4: oil is important for the economy as far as I

512
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Speaker 4: can till the administration appears not to have thought through

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Speaker 4: the idea that invading Iran would have impacts on global

514
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Speaker 4: oil markets. I don't do in depth White House reporting.

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Speaker 1: Right all evidence supports this deposition. I want you to

516
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Speaker 1: talk about the thing that this White House has now

517
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Speaker 1: done to put a patch on the problem, which is

518
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Speaker 1: and sanctions on Russian oil, thus making Vladimir Putin a

519
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Speaker 1: very happy young man.

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Speaker 4: So after they invade Iran and after they discover that's

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Speaker 4: got something to do with oil. And after oil rises,

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Speaker 4: and after gas prices rise, when oil price rise, Susie Wiles,

523
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Speaker 4: the Chief of Staff, runs around the White House saying, oh, yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: you have an Apple Watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's when the people saw the pictures. They

526
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Speaker 1: were like, she has an Apple Watch. That's a security bridge.

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Speaker 2: And then she was like, no, i have a wop

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Speaker 2: that's a fun way.

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Speaker 1: I'm very focused on the very irrelevant details continue.

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Speaker 4: So she walks around and she says, hey, does anyone

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Speaker 4: have any ideas on how to get gas prices down? Now,

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Speaker 4: I'm glad she did that because no one in human

533
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Speaker 4: history has ever thought that. She's probably the first person

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Speaker 4: in the White House to say, I wonder if there's

535
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Speaker 4: why of getting gas prices down? That was snarcasm in

536
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Speaker 4: an Australian accent, right, right, I have to announce it.

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Speaker 4: I've learned it says that you can't. Well, actually they're

538
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Speaker 4: really clever. They figured out a way. What you need

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Speaker 4: to do is increase the supply of oil. How could

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Speaker 4: we do that? We've isolated Russia because they invaded Iran,

541
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Speaker 4: and I said, what if we unisolated them? You know,

542
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Speaker 4: like I mean, we're bombing around for no reason. We

543
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Speaker 4: used to why not on Ukraine's side for a good reason? Right,

544
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Speaker 4: why not give up in Ukraine in order to help

545
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Speaker 4: us at home because the trouble caused by a run.

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Speaker 4: So they said we're going to unsanction a small amount

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Speaker 4: of Russian oil. Turns out the thing is when it's

548
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Speaker 4: a small amount that's doing a lot of work there.

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Speaker 4: They announced this and it basically there's no effect. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and you also saw big countries say that they were

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Speaker 4: going to release oil from their strategic reserves. But again,

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Speaker 4: these reserves are not particularly large.

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Speaker 1: What did America not have a strategic reserve because Donald

554
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Speaker 1: Trump was waiting for it to get cheaper.

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Speaker 4: So if you we do have a strategic petroleum reserve,

556
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Speaker 4: but we didn't refill it. We let it run down

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Speaker 4: during the Biden years. Now, if you're about to go

558
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Speaker 4: into a run, I know the president's very good at this,

559
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Speaker 4: you would think to yourself, prices are about to rise.

560
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Speaker 4: So what did I buy low and sell high? If

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Speaker 4: that was too difficult for the president. I have a

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Speaker 4: funny feeling if he called Baron in and said, hey, Baron,

563
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Speaker 4: here's what I'm going to do. How are you going

564
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Speaker 4: to trade on your private account? Baron would have said,

565
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Speaker 4: I know, I'm going to buy oil while it's cheap,

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Speaker 4: and maybe then i'll have it when it's expensive. But anyway,

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Speaker 4: no one did that with the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, so

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Speaker 4: it remains half empty. They could have spent a few

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Speaker 4: months just sloshing it full of oil before they went in,

570
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Speaker 4: but they didn't, so we lost that opportunity as well.

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Speaker 4: So this is the sense which is literally no evidence

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Speaker 4: of planning. There's also a bunch of Americans in the

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Speaker 4: Middle East. They forgot to get them out?

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Speaker 3: At me?

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Speaker 2: Are they getting them out now?

576
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Speaker 3: Slowly?

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Speaker 4: Are they getting them out now? Do you know more

578
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Speaker 4: than I do?

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Speaker 3: Mai?

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Speaker 2: No, all right, I did not. Justin Wolfer's well can

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Speaker 2: you come back?

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Speaker 4: I will, But I'm going to tell you that being

583
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Speaker 4: interviewed from a bed feels unprofessional, and I'm going to

584
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Speaker 4: go and talk to hr.

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Speaker 1: Yes you must, you must. Gina Henna Josa is a

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Speaker 1: member of the Texas House of Representatives representing the forty

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Speaker 1: ninth District and the Democratic nominee for the Governor of

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Speaker 1: the Great State of Texas.

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Speaker 5: Welcome, Welcome, Gina, Thank you, it's great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: So you are running as the Democratic candidate for governor

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Speaker 1: in the great state of Texas, running against Greg Abbott.

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Speaker 5: Discuss Look all across the state right now, people are excited,

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Speaker 5: people are showing up, people are engaged. We just had

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Speaker 5: our primary elections last week where I was elected in

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Speaker 5: the field of nine Democrats running for governor. I won

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Speaker 5: outright without a runoff. In Texas, you have to get

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Speaker 5: over fifty percent of the vote to avoid a competition

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Speaker 5: of runoff between the top two vote getters, and so

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Speaker 5: I was able to clear that. But what we saw

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Speaker 5: across the state in these primary elections is that a

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Speaker 5: lot more Democrats showed up to vote than Republicans, which

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Speaker 5: is a new thing here right We haven't experienced anything

603
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Speaker 5: like that since two thousand and eight. So already this

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Speaker 5: midterm election in Texas has been historic and it tracks

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Speaker 5: with what we're seeing all across the state where people

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Speaker 5: are showing up, people are electing Democrats where we haven't

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Speaker 5: elected Democrats in decades, sometimes ever. And it's like finally

608
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Speaker 5: people woke up. They woke up to the gript, the corruption.

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Speaker 5: It's impacting them directly. Their families, and once people understand

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Speaker 5: their power and we've had some wins, then they're hooked.

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Speaker 5: So like Ran County and Tarrant County, where we just

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Speaker 5: flipped a deeply Republican Gerrymanderd Senate seat. We flipped that

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Speaker 5: a few weeks ago in a special election, and then

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Speaker 5: they had crazy turnouts in the regular primary Electionmocrats way

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Speaker 5: overperformed and voted in bigger numbers than Republicans. So it's like,

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Speaker 5: once you know what, do you feel your power, you're hooked.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. There were more Democrats voting

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Speaker 1: than Republicans in the primers that said, And actually I

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Speaker 1: was looking at the numbers and it was like one

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Speaker 1: point to what for the Democrats one point four one.

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Speaker 5: Point four million? Are you saying that voted? I don't

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Speaker 5: have the specific numbers. Is that what?

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Speaker 2: But it's something like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But Texas tends to be a state with a lot

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Speaker 1: of independence too, right, well more and more.

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Speaker 5: And I think we're just in a time where people

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Speaker 5: are kind of throwing off partisan labels, right because government's broken.

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Speaker 5: Politics is broken. People are angry at everybody, establishment, everybody, right,

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Speaker 5: and so we have a lot of Independence. What is

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Speaker 5: happening with independence in Texas? Like our poll, our only

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Speaker 5: pull of this campaign shows me beating Greg Aabbott by

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Speaker 5: thirteen points. There was a like a conservative leaning public poll,

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Speaker 5: the Emerson Pole. It had me beating Greg Abbott with

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Speaker 5: Independence by thirteen points. Bet though was losing Independence by

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Speaker 5: thirteen points when he ran against Abbott. It's not that

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Speaker 5: I'm a better candidate, it's just it's a better time.

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Speaker 1: I would love you to talk us through your biography

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Speaker 1: a little bit about where you come from in Texas.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So I'm originally from the Rio Grande Valley, South Texas, Bordertown, Brownsville.

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Speaker 5: Went to public school there, and in fact, that's where

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Speaker 5: we launched this campaign. I never met to run for

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Speaker 5: any office. I made my husband promise to never run

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Speaker 5: for any office. That's how much I did not want

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00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 5: this to be part of our life. But sometimes like

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00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 5: as other plans, and my said school wasn't going to

647
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Speaker 5: be shut down. He was in kindergarten, so I was

648
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Speaker 5: just a mad mom. I ran for the school board.

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Speaker 5: I won. We stopped the closure of our neighborhood schools

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Speaker 5: and then from there I figured out that the reason

651
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 5: our schools are shutting down. Is because the state takes

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Speaker 5: our money and doesn't put it back into schools to

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Speaker 5: put them back into our neighborhoods, doesn't put it back

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Speaker 5: into our needs. So I ran for the Texas House

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Speaker 5: and that's where I've been fighting against Greg Abbott's disastrous

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Speaker 5: policies for our schools and for our communities. And my

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Speaker 5: conclusion watching Greg Abbott and fighting Greg Abbott in the

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Speaker 5: Texas House is everything is driven by grift and corruption.

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Speaker 5: We are all paying the Greg Abbot corruption tax in Texas.

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Speaker 5: We just passed a billion dollar voucher scam last year.

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Speaker 5: Governor Abbot got ten million dollars from an out of

662
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Speaker 5: state billionaire at Jeff Yaz who has a financial interests

663
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Speaker 5: in this voucher right, so he turned his back on

664
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Speaker 5: our public schools, turned his back on Texans because public

665
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 5: schools are really a very Texas notion, right, They're part

666
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Speaker 5: of our identity. They're enshrined in our Texas Constitution that

667
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Speaker 5: we shall support our public schools. It is Friday night light.

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Speaker 5: It is the only option for most of our counties,

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Speaker 5: the rural counties in Texas, and so in lots of

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Speaker 5: ways people could not believe that our governor would do that.

671
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Speaker 5: It is the corruption, the grift that explains most of

672
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Speaker 5: his policy his big policy positions in this state, and

673
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Speaker 5: people are rising up to it.

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Speaker 1: So we've seen before things like this happen where governors

675
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Speaker 1: whereas state will turn on Republican leadership. Kansas is a

676
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: good example where you know it's just too much. There

677
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: hits this sort of tipping point. Do you think that

678
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: you guys are at that tipping point?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 5: Governor Abbott has been there twelve years. He wants to

681
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Speaker 5: be elected to another term, which would put him at

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Speaker 5: sixteen years. He would be the longest serving governor in

683
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Speaker 5: Texas history. First of all, people don't like that he's

684
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 5: been there long enough, and most Texans are struggling more

685
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 5: not less after twelve years of Greg Abbott. It's like,

686
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Speaker 5: what's he going to do for us now after twelve

687
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 5: years that he hasn't already done for us? But we

688
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 5: have the most uninsured working Texans', most uninsured children. Our

689
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 5: income is raising at a rate that is slower than

690
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Speaker 5: the national average. Despite Texas being an international or a

691
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 5: world economic powerhouse. Right, Texans are not benefiting from his leadership.

692
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: Texans are struggling. People are ready for change. The polling,

693
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Speaker 5: our first poll of this campaign shows we're in a

694
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Speaker 5: statistical tie with Greg Abbott. People don't really know who

695
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 5: I am yet because I'm a Texas house right, so

696
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 5: I've represented a smaller part of Texas, and so my

697
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 5: challenge is to get my name profile, tell people what

698
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Speaker 5: I'm about. Greg Abbott's challenge is that people know what

699
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Speaker 5: he's about, and they don't like him. The public polling

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Speaker 5: shows he is the most unpopular person on the ballot

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Speaker 5: in November, more unpopular than John Cornyan, more unpopular than

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Speaker 5: Ken Paxton. So he's in real trouble. He's deeply unpopular.

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Speaker 5: He had ten opponents in his primary, which was the

704
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Speaker 5: first time ever, and people are just ready for a change,

705
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 5: and he just offers more of the same.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about Brownsville. It's basically been taken

707
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Speaker 1: over by Elon Musk. There are a lot of billionaires

708
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: who have moved to that state for the taxes. What

709
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Speaker 1: kind of problems does that present?

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Speaker 5: The reason the billionaires move here is because Greg Abbott

711
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 5: gives them the keys to the castle. Basically, so Brownsville

712
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 5: is right by South Padre Island, which is the beach

713
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Speaker 5: that so many of us spend summers at. I grew

714
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 5: up going to booka Chiko beach right on South Padre Island.

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Speaker 5: He just gave Elon Musk the sole ability to shut

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Speaker 5: down the beach for whenever he wants to to test

717
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 5: his rockets. This is the public beach. It is enshrined

718
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Speaker 5: in our Texas Constitution that their beaches should be free

719
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Speaker 5: and open to the public. Handed over control of the

720
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Speaker 5: beach and it is anticipated the beaches will be shut

721
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Speaker 5: down three months out of the year. Right, Yeah, So

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Speaker 5: that's just one example, but more and more he does

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Speaker 5: the bidding of the billionaires. They are feeding off of

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Speaker 5: the system that benefits the point one percent at this

725
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Speaker 5: point and using our taxpayer dollars. So yeah, it is

726
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Speaker 5: a big, big problem. We have Larry Ellison here in Austin,

727
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 5: who is the CEO, founder of Oracle Right, which is

728
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 5: now in control of TikTok In CBS and parts of

729
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 5: our military as well. Right, I mean, it's just the

730
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Speaker 5: consolidation of wealth and power is very scary, it is historic,

731
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Speaker 5: and Greg Abbott just paves the way for it here

732
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Speaker 5: in Texas.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what would you do if you were going

734
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Speaker 1: give us sort of a sense of what you would

735
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Speaker 1: do when you got in there.

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Speaker 5: So I get asked this question. I get asked, like,

737
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Speaker 5: what are the three things? And the problem we have

738
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 5: is that it's so much more than three things to

739
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 5: fix what's broken in Texas because we've had thirty years

740
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Speaker 5: of one party role, twelve years of Greg Abbott. There's

741
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 5: just so much grift baked into the system. So my

742
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 5: approach would be clean slate, fresh start. We've got to

743
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Speaker 5: just start from scratch when it comes to figuring out

744
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Speaker 5: what our tax payer dollars would go to. I focus

745
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Speaker 5: a lot on public schools because again it is why

746
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 5: I ran, but public schools. Like if you just home

747
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 5: in on public schools, it is an example of what

748
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 5: is wrong with the whole system. So I just got

749
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Speaker 5: off an education panel where we're talking about the vouchers,

750
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Speaker 5: and the vouchers are part of the waste, fraud, and

751
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 5: abuse in the education system in the stay of Texas.

752
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Speaker 5: But it's like technology vendor contracts that don't really serve

753
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 5: our kids. It's an accountability system or a testing regime

754
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 5: that is really about feeding the testing companies, and they

755
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 5: make hundreds of millions of dollars off of our taxpayer dollars.

756
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Speaker 5: And it's not about kids, right, So if you white

757
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Speaker 5: clean on the vendor contracts and hate teachers, they're worth

758
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 5: which our teachers are paid ten thousand ars low the

759
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: national average, has smaller class size, fund special education, which

760
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Speaker 5: is the most underfunded part of our school finance system,

761
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Speaker 5: and focus on school safety. There are kids after Uvalde

762
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 5: who are kept home by their parents because they're afraid

763
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Speaker 5: to send their kids to school. But like, it's not

764
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Speaker 5: rocket science, it's a back to basics approach to governing

765
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Speaker 5: that billionaires don't get rich off of, right, But it's

766
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 5: actually serves the people of Texas. So that's an example

767
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Speaker 5: of how you would do it in education. But the

768
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Speaker 5: safe thing needs to happen with our healthcare dollars. The

769
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 5: safe thing needs to happen with our energy dollars, all

770
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Speaker 5: of it, all of it. It needs to be clean slate,

771
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Speaker 5: fresh start, focus on the basic needs of Texans which

772
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 5: are not getting served today. In the state of Texas.

773
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Speaker 5: It was breaking news within the last forty eight hours

774
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 5: that Corpus Christi is going to be out of water. Right,

775
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 5: we all know the story of the grid shutting down

776
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 5: in Texas, and over seven hundred Texans are estimated to

777
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 5: have been killed because our electric grid didn't work. So

778
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 5: it's like these fundamental basics that are not working in again,

779
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 5: a state that is a world economic powerhouse because government

780
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 5: does not serve the needs of the people, even though

781
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 5: the people are paying the price for what is happening

782
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Speaker 5: in government.

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Speaker 1: Can you undo some of Abbott's executive orders? And can

784
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Speaker 1: you tell us sort of the craziest ones.

785
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 5: I can undo all of them. That's the beauty of

786
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Speaker 5: an executive order, you know. Here, let me give you an,

787
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Speaker 5: I think egregious example, and I do think in some

788
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 5: ways that trumps copied Abbot's playbook when it comes to this.

789
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 5: In twenty twenty, Abbot started signing emergency executive orders every

790
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Speaker 5: month to wipe clean and to set aside our competitive

791
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 5: bidding laws, the laws that require the state to evaluate

792
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Speaker 5: any contract proposals to determine who is giving us the

793
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: best price, the best value of the best product. Right

794
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 5: it protects the taxpayers. So every month since twenty twenty,

795
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 5: Greg Abbot has signed an emergency executive order waighing those

796
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 5: competitive bidding laws. And there was a report released about

797
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 5: four or five months ago that found he's given almost

798
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 5: a billion dollars in no bid contracts to his donors.

799
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Speaker 5: It's nuts, right, it's and I'm starting to see echoes

800
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Speaker 5: of this at the federal level, where the Trump administration

801
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 5: is giving out all these non competitive bid contracts and

802
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 5: declaring some sort of emergency in Texas. It started with

803
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 5: the pandemic that was a real emergency that continued happening

804
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 5: for like two years. Then it was border security, then

805
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 5: it was water, drought, flood, whatever. But there's always something,

806
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 5: and it's just an abuse of power. It would stop

807
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Speaker 5: when I'm governor.

808
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Speaker 1: I wonder if you could talk to us for a

809
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: minute about how you win this state. Because Republicans have

810
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: a lot of money. They're gonna have a lot of money.

811
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Speaker 1: You got elon, there are a lot of billionaires who

812
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: want to keep Abbot and power. So how do you

813
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: win when you're going to be outspent.

814
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Speaker 5: We need to raise tens of millions of dollars, but

815
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Speaker 5: we don't have to match Abbot dollar for a dollar,

816
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 5: because again, he is a known quantity and Texans don't

817
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 5: like him. So we need to raise enough to get

818
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 5: our name ID out. What we saw in Terran County

819
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Speaker 5: where we flipped that Senate seat is Taylor Ramet, our

820
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 5: Democratic candidate. He got outspent ten to one. What we

821
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 5: saw outside of Houston there are school board elections where

822
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 5: Democrats were up against book book banner, like big money

823
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 5: book banners who are trying to take over these patriot

824
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 5: mobile but did people who are trying to take over

825
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 5: these school districts, And still the Democrats won because people

826
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 5: saw through the agenda. They were sick and tired of

827
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 5: what was happening in their schools, and they elected Democrats.

828
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Speaker 5: We've seen the same thing happen in Leander. This is

829
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 5: all just within the last few months. They flipped a

830
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 5: mayor's seat and a city council seat, and we saw

831
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Speaker 5: it happen in Robstown. So it's already organically happening in Texas.

832
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Speaker 5: And what we know is that all of the polling

833
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 5: shows that Greg Abbin is vulnerable. The closest we came

834
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Speaker 5: to flipping in Texas in recent history was Betho in

835
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Speaker 5: twenty eighteen. Beto got sixty four percent of the latinal vote.

836
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Speaker 5: In twenty eighty. When I get sixty four percent of

837
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 5: the Latinal vote in twenty twenty six, I win because

838
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 5: there's more Latinos in the poll since twenty eighteen. Tailor Ramet,

839
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 5: the Senate candidate, got set even the nine percent of

840
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 5: the Latinos just about a month ago. Right, So Latinos

841
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 5: are already open to moving towards Democrats. They are feeling

842
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 5: targeted isolated by the current administration, by the current government.

843
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 5: They are targeted as not American enough, not Texan enough.

844
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 5: There are raids happening that are impacting our families. Literally,

845
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 5: they're hitting us at home because many Latinos come from

846
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 5: mixed status families. My mother was born in another country.

847
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 5: My mother was born in Mexico. My grandmother never became

848
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: a citizen. Right, So targeting indiscriminate of people who have

849
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 5: been in our country for decades, hard working law biting

850
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 5: is really angering many in the Latino community. Many people

851
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 5: consider themselves conservative, right, So in other words, it is

852
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 5: a perfect storm of opportunity to flip in Texas.

853
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: Whenever I go anywhere, there are two things I hear

854
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: out locally are data centers and ice warehouses. So I

855
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: assume that that is a problem for Texans too. Can

856
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: you talk us through that.

857
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me start with the ice detention centers. It's

858
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 5: important that people understand we are the only state in

859
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 5: the country that allows for little children to be locked

860
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 5: up with their parents in these detention centers. That's why

861
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 5: Liam was here in Texas in a detention center. And

862
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 5: it happened after Greg Abbott received tens of thousands of

863
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 5: dollars in campaign contributions from the private prison companies that

864
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 5: now operate these detention centers. He created a new kind

865
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 5: of licensing for these detention centers to make it legal

866
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 5: to lock up these little kids with their parents. Like

867
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 5: anywhere else that would be prosecuted as child abuse. But

868
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 5: that's the corrupt reality we're dealing with in Texas. And

869
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 5: I tell you this story because I think it's important

870
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 5: that we all unders stand. So much of the ugliness

871
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 5: that is happening in the state and in this country

872
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 5: is being driven by this level of corruption, the likes

873
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Speaker 5: of which we have not seen before. Right, the data

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Speaker 5: centers are growing much faster than communities can get a

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Speaker 5: handle of, and there are projections that these data centers

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Speaker 5: will cost Texans about six hundred dollars more annually in

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Speaker 5: electric bills because of the infrastructure that needs to be

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Speaker 5: put in to make these operate well. Of course these

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Speaker 5: are run by the wealthiest men in the world. They

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Speaker 5: should pay for themselves, right, We need to like at minimum,

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Speaker 5: this is just bare minimum. As people are trying to

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Speaker 5: figure out what to do with these data centers, they

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Speaker 5: should pay for themselves. They need to be their own

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Speaker 5: source of electricity. They need to have water that is

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Speaker 5: contained within the system so that we're not losing water.

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Speaker 5: But also local community should have to say in what

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Speaker 5: is happening. And right now, local communities are left behind

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Speaker 5: because Greg Abbot. Abbott has promised that Texas will have

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Speaker 5: more data centers in any state in the nation, and

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Speaker 5: Texans are not down with that. Texans have not been

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Speaker 5: consulted on this plan, and so we're engaging with Texans

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Speaker 5: all over the state about data centers and even in

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Speaker 5: rural Republican communities.

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Speaker 2: Gina, thank you, thank you, thank you. I hope you'll

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Speaker 2: come back.

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Speaker 5: I would love to be back. I need everybody to

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Speaker 5: be all in for Texas in this mid term election.

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Speaker 5: Can I tell you one more thing that I want

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Speaker 5: you to know about why please, Texas is going to

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Speaker 5: gain four to five new congressional seats at the end

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Speaker 5: of the decade because we're just growing so much faster

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Speaker 5: than other states. And what that means is that if

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Speaker 5: we don't flip by the end of the decade so

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Speaker 5: that Democrats control the map drawing in the Texas House

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Speaker 5: and Senate and we have a governor who can veto

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Speaker 5: any corrupt, rigged map, that can't have Democrats in control

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Speaker 5: of Congress for a generation. The math no longer works

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Speaker 5: because Texas gets too big, and because those congressional seats

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Speaker 5: equate to electoral votes, there won't be Democratic control of

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Speaker 5: the White House for a generation if we don't flip

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Speaker 5: by the end of the decade. This midterm election with

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Speaker 5: Trump in the White House is our best opportunity to

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Speaker 5: make those gains. The last time we had a midterm

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Speaker 5: election with Trump in the White House, Democrats swept. We

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Speaker 5: took control of all Harris County, Houston. We put in

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Speaker 5: twelve Democrats in the Texas House. And this was just organic.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't a strategy or investment or plan. It is

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Speaker 5: why I am running this time around. We have to

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Speaker 5: be ready. We can't be caught flat footed. And the

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Speaker 5: entire country has a stake in what happens in these

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Speaker 5: midterm elections.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Gina, thank you, Molly.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: No moment, Peculy, Jesse Cannon, I jump fast, so I

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Speaker 3: personally wake up and read Twitter, and I'm disgusted by

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Speaker 3: the way Representative Randy Fine talks and Andy Eugles has

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Speaker 3: long been this person too. The Dems are finally moving

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Speaker 3: to censure them because they're such insane islamophobes and just

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Speaker 3: repulsive in their language.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is good.

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Speaker 1: This is Democrats doing things and making a real red

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Speaker 1: line here, and you know it's really important. So this

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Speaker 1: is a two page resolution to Center Ogles for writing

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Speaker 1: on social media earlier this week that Muslims don't belong

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Speaker 1: in American society. Imagine saying that, Imagine saying that public.

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Speaker 1: It's just so incredibly gross and upsetting. And jakeem says,

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Speaker 1: Mike Johnson has spent a lot of time talking about decorum.

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Speaker 1: Get your members under control, because if you don't, we will,

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Speaker 1: he said at a press conference. And you know, we

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Speaker 1: have seen again and again that people really want Democrats

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Speaker 1: to fight. They do not want them to be so

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Speaker 1: passive and scared of their own shadows. It's a very

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Speaker 1: good way to show that you're willing to fight, and

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Speaker 1: it's also happens to be also morally correct, right, like,

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Speaker 1: this is the correct way to act with this insane

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Speaker 1: Islamophobia that is not okay by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 1: So good for everyone involved in this. Let's do more

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Speaker 1: of this, more centering on this kind of stuff. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's good. That's it for this episode of

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