Speaker 1: Well, well, well, we've unofficially is that a god? Is
Speaker 1: that a good cadence for a well, well, well it
Speaker 1: sounds natural, right, We've unofficially reached the midway point across
Speaker 1: the league, and while we've primarily focused on the top
Speaker 1: of each conference in the past weeks, for some weird reason,
Speaker 1: we're here to take a look at the play in
Speaker 1: keens out West because there's there's a bunch of teams
Speaker 1: that were focus points heading into the season and now
Speaker 1: they've kind of faded a little bit, including the state
Speaker 1: of the Phoenix Suns with lead pH n X writer
Speaker 1: and podcaster Gerald Borgae on today's episode, I'm Jack O'Brien.
Speaker 2: And I'm still producer Bori in for Miles and this is.
Speaker 1: Sunscrabory, got mad booth an story, got it? I look
Speaker 1: at hitch ten kay.
Speaker 3: D driving Spinny Fatter number eighteen that's been secured the
Speaker 3: Celtics or NBA champions over the.
Speaker 1: Couple teams, be honest with the time, look, no shot time,
Speaker 1: what you go? Yes? What's going on? Gerald? Not a
Speaker 1: whole lot, guys.
Speaker 4: When you teed that up as far as teams in
Speaker 4: the playing situation, I was like, wait, am I in
Speaker 4: the right place, and I was like, oh, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: covering the Suns. I actually am in the right place.
Speaker 4: A kind of a little depressing, honestly, Yeah, are you not.
Speaker 1: Used to it at this point? You're like, because this
Speaker 1: is like kind of they're kind of on a run
Speaker 1: right now, right like twenty one twenty one. I feel
Speaker 1: like they were a little bit underwater for a little
Speaker 1: while there. They were.
Speaker 4: They had to win like six of eight heading into
Speaker 4: that Cavs beat down the other day just to get
Speaker 4: back to five hundred. So yeah, it still hasn't kind
Speaker 4: of sunk in that this team is as bad as
Speaker 4: they are, honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the podcast pH NX Sons is awesome. We're
Speaker 1: thrilled to have you here, and let's just jump right
Speaker 1: into it. Twenty one and twenty one, tenth in the West,
Speaker 1: twenty fifth and defensive efficiency tenth and offensive efficiency overall? Snapshot,
Speaker 1: how we feeling in the Suns and Sons land not
Speaker 1: great over here. I mean, I'm a Sixers fan, So
Speaker 1: just in case you think I'm being like some snarky
Speaker 1: like Celtics fan or something, Gerald, it's not great over
Speaker 1: here either. You can just picture me hosting the show
Speaker 1: from inside of a hurricane, and that's about right.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's like eight teams that are in
Speaker 4: that boat, like the Sixers, the Suns, the Lakers.
Speaker 1: The Warriors, excuse me, the Timberwolves. Like Lakers are like
Speaker 1: the best of that batch. That's like, how much of
Speaker 1: a competition is that? Though? Is that I was working
Speaker 1: heading into this episode. I was working on a loose
Speaker 1: theory that all of those teams are being undermined by
Speaker 1: like having somebody who we still think of as like
Speaker 1: a certain level, Like this came from lat last week.
Speaker 1: We were talking about how old Paul George is, Like
Speaker 1: we went back and looked at his draft and like
Speaker 1: he was drafted behind like Danny Ainge. Like it was.
Speaker 1: It was like the other names on that in that
Speaker 1: list were so old, like people have just been gone
Speaker 1: from the league for so long. And so I was like,
Speaker 1: same with I bet like Bradley Beal would fit well
Speaker 1: into that conversation. Bradley Beal's thirty one. Yeah, Braley Beal
Speaker 1: is so young. Yeah that is wild if he just
Speaker 1: feels like he's been here forever. But I do feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of those teams that we expected a
Speaker 1: certain something from are coming in and there's just you know,
Speaker 1: they they went and got old on us a little bit.
Speaker 1: And obviously the sons have KD, but Katie's still, you know,
Speaker 1: a walking bucket. So I feel like it'd be unfair
Speaker 1: to blame it too much on him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't really blame it on him, Like he's
Speaker 4: still playing it at all NBA level at age thirty six.
Speaker 4: He's been their best player on both ends of the
Speaker 4: court by far. It's honestly like everybody's to blame in this.
Speaker 4: Devin Booker hasn't had as good of a season as
Speaker 4: we're used to seeing from him. They need him to
Speaker 4: play it at an all NBA level, and I would argue
Speaker 4: he's not even worthy of an All Star spot this year.
Speaker 4: They upgraded the bench, they changed the coaching spot, Like
Speaker 4: you just look all around and it just hasn't worked
Speaker 4: out for a bunch of different reasons. This is just
Speaker 4: an older, unathletic team that doesn't have an identity, that
Speaker 4: doesn't have a good defense, and really, until the trade
Speaker 4: for Nick Richards, didn't have like a playable starting caliber center.
Speaker 4: And that's a problem when you look around the West,
Speaker 4: right now, yeah, you're gonna want one of those.
Speaker 2: Are there any amongst the fan base that you know,
Speaker 2: especially the ones that were thellowedest in in terms of
Speaker 2: getting rid of DeAndre Aiden? And it is not like
Speaker 2: you because plus trust me, we can do this with
Speaker 2: the Lakers, we can do this with the Sixers. But
Speaker 2: we're just talking about the Suns right now. But are
Speaker 2: there any of those folks that are maybe regretting that
Speaker 2: push or was it still not a good fit? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there's definitely regret there.
Speaker 4: But I've all continued to say what I've been saying,
Speaker 4: like DA's trade value that summer was negligible, like they
Speaker 4: and they needed a change of pace, both him and
Speaker 4: the Suns, like they needed a parting of the ways
Speaker 4: there because heading into the next season, they already had
Speaker 4: their big three lined up and DA wanted more touches,
Speaker 4: he wanted more shots, he wanted a bigger offensive role,
Speaker 4: which you know, you understand that out of a number
Speaker 4: one pick, but he wasn't going to get that in Phoenix,
Speaker 4: and that was gonna be something that could potentially implode
Speaker 4: a locker room by Christmas. So they had to get
Speaker 4: off of him. They had to trade him somehow the
Speaker 4: returns on the trade are really not working out. So
Speaker 4: for a lot of people, it's like, why did we
Speaker 4: trade this guy who had potential? But I think if
Speaker 4: you ask Blazers fans, they would tell you the same
Speaker 4: thing we saw here in Phoenix for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned that Booker not having It's not a
Speaker 1: bad season. No, He's somebody who I think, like, heading
Speaker 1: into last season, I was like, here comes my dark
Speaker 1: horse for the MVP. Me a smart basketball person, listen
Speaker 1: to me, here comes my dark horse for the NBA
Speaker 1: MVP Award. And he shot well last year, but this
Speaker 1: year he's off his normal pace by kind of a lot.
Speaker 1: Like he's shooting forty four percent from the field, thirty
Speaker 1: four percent from three, still eighty nine a the stripe.
Speaker 1: But what do you attribute the slip in his productivity to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of baffling. And he was the first
Speaker 4: to admit that he hasn't like been himself for most
Speaker 4: of this season. I think in January he's obviously gotten
Speaker 4: a little bit back on track. He's been shooting the
Speaker 4: ball well for the most part this month, but he
Speaker 4: got off to a really slow start this season. I
Speaker 4: think part of it is, you know, heading into the year,
Speaker 4: the big thing with the Suns under Mike Budenholzer, We're
Speaker 4: going to take a lot more threes. And Book has
Speaker 4: only had a like one or two season in his
Speaker 4: career where he's really shot the three ball well, and
Speaker 4: this has been his highest volume year, So I think
Speaker 4: that's going to take your efficiency down a little bit.
Speaker 4: But he just hasn't been as good in the mid range,
Speaker 4: which is where he normally you know, that's his bread
Speaker 4: and butter. And he's not as good around the basket either.
Speaker 4: He's kind of lacked some of that explosiveness until the
Speaker 4: last month or so. I know he was dealing with
Speaker 4: with an illness early in the season that took it
Speaker 4: out of him for about a week or two and
Speaker 4: that stretch hurt his numbers two. But it kind of
Speaker 4: feels like he and the rest of the Sons have
Speaker 4: struggled to adapt to what the Sons are trying to
Speaker 4: do offensively under Bud. And you've seen it over the
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks here in Phoenix. They've gotten away
Speaker 4: from taking a bunch of threes as well. They're starting
Speaker 4: to drift back to their old habits of operating in
Speaker 4: the mid range, and that kind of goes hand in
Speaker 4: hand with book finding his stride a little bit.
Speaker 1: My philosophy is a coach long twos. There's just an
Speaker 1: artistry to it.
Speaker 2: At the altar of Kobe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you named the three kinds of shots. I
Speaker 1: think you named threes, mid range, and around the rim.
Speaker 1: So that's that's probably not great. Do we think Kendall
Speaker 1: Jenner of it all? I know this is a basketball podcast,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying a lot of my non basketball
Speaker 1: like obsessive friends who had other you know that, they
Speaker 1: were like, just FYI, you can expect a fall off
Speaker 1: from this player in the next in the coming years,
Speaker 1: And I was like, you're crazy again. This is going
Speaker 1: to be the NBA MVP and the not too distant future.
Speaker 1: I'm just putting it out there what people have said
Speaker 1: to me, and that is science. When you just put
Speaker 1: out there something that people have said to you, that's
Speaker 1: a science and also good journalism your research. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: always do my own research.
Speaker 4: Sure, I've heard that before, but I will say, like,
Speaker 4: if you look at his numbers when he was with
Speaker 4: Kendall Jenner, they were the best of his career, like that.
Speaker 4: They started dating around the bubble, and then they went
Speaker 4: to the Finals the next year, and then they had
Speaker 4: the sixty four win season. So if anything, you know,
Speaker 4: the breakup is to blame, right, Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that's generally how it works. I think it's usually like
Speaker 4: they date and then generally the player has a tough
Speaker 4: time after after the relationship. So I just want the
Speaker 4: listeners because I know a lot of people always talk
Speaker 4: about the Jenner curse. If I mean for starters, like
Speaker 4: don't blame women for men's mistakes.
Speaker 1: Everyone listening. But that's a really good point.
Speaker 4: But on top of that, like he played his best
Speaker 4: basketball when they were together.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, so maybe he should just figure some things
Speaker 1: out about himself and get back to that level. What
Speaker 1: are you missing now that she's gone? She's gone? Oh
Speaker 1: she dated Ben Simmons?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Am I making that up?
Speaker 2: She feels like it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? How's he doing? I haven't checked in with
Speaker 1: his game in a while. Is he he's since then?
Speaker 1: Has he improved or how's he?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: No? He things have gone badly for him, And generally
Speaker 1: thoughts on coach Bud how things have shifted from a
Speaker 1: strategy standpoint, because we were looking last year at where
Speaker 1: the Suns were at this point in the season, and
Speaker 1: there were only a couple games over five hundred at
Speaker 1: this point last year, so like this was kind of
Speaker 1: where they were able to turn it on a little
Speaker 1: bit last year. Do you think there's something that's going
Speaker 1: to click here in the not too distant future and
Speaker 1: things might start coming together or what? What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on where this new team is under a coach.
Speaker 4: Budd Honestly, I'm not too optimistic about it. I think
Speaker 4: last year you looked at the run that the Suns
Speaker 4: went on after Christmas, and they had a great run
Speaker 4: for like a month or two leading into the All
Speaker 4: Star break, and it will coincided with them finally getting healthy,
Speaker 4: them getting their big three back out there, and it
Speaker 4: was kind of what we were expecting. We were expecting
Speaker 4: once they get healthy, we can finally see what this
Speaker 4: team is and it was competitive. This team like they've
Speaker 4: struggled with a lot of the same injury concerns, but
Speaker 4: it just hasn't felt cohesive like last year. I was
Speaker 4: high on the Mike Budenholzer higher. Everybody that we talked
Speaker 4: to was saying the attention to detail with this guy
Speaker 4: is insane.
Speaker 1: They're going to take more threes.
Speaker 4: They're going to be, you know, a top ten offense
Speaker 4: with the talent they have, and a top ten defense
Speaker 4: because Bud's teams have historically been that as well. And
Speaker 4: you're looking at it and they're near bottom of the
Speaker 4: league in defensive efficiency. You know, they've gotten away from
Speaker 4: taking the threes. They don't really have an identity. It
Speaker 4: just it feels like there's another disconnect between the players
Speaker 4: and the coaching staff, and a lot of people are
Speaker 4: going to put that on the players because it's largely
Speaker 4: the same group of guys as last year, and Frank
Speaker 4: Vogel kind of you know, had to take the blame
Speaker 4: for that one. But at the same time time, I
Speaker 4: do think it's possible that maybe they went over to
Speaker 4: on their coaching fires and I don't I genuinely don't
Speaker 4: know how to fix it. It's kind of baffling. You
Speaker 4: look at the talent this team has. They should be
Speaker 4: better on both ends, but they're just not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Vogel specialty taking the blame, I know.
Speaker 2: Something about that. Yeah, yeah, the champion head coach. Ye,
Speaker 2: some respect of it.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about the game of the week, which we're on
Speaker 1: quite a run here of these games of the week
Speaker 1: being blowouts. This was at least an interesting blowout. So
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Calves at the Thunder, how that
Speaker 1: went down, and also take a look further around the league,
Speaker 1: not just at the Suns, some other teams that are
Speaker 1: maybe underperforming out West. We'll be right back and we're back.
Speaker 1: Let's just really briefly talk about a good basketball team
Speaker 1: before we get back to the mediocrity. Okay, Like, let's
Speaker 1: just blast through this. We don't want to bore people.
Speaker 1: Two good teams operating at the peak of their expectations
Speaker 1: coming in. I mean, the Thunder had high expectations, but
Speaker 1: they're better than I think anybody expected at this point,
Speaker 1: especially without Chit Yeah, without Chet. I think their other
Speaker 1: big guy, Hartenstein was hurt for this game, and they
Speaker 1: took it to the Calves, which like does Like I
Speaker 1: don't know, are people going to be like should they
Speaker 1: just always play small? Like what? This is incredible because
Speaker 1: they are so tough defensively on the perimeter, But I
Speaker 1: think it's going to help to have a seven foot
Speaker 1: three rim protector back there, so you can like get
Speaker 1: even tougher. But they handed the Calves their worst loss
Speaker 1: of the season one th four fourteen, And that is
Speaker 1: closer than it actually was. Shay had forty points eight
Speaker 1: assists in three quarters. Lou Dort scored a season high
Speaker 1: twenty two. They just had everything working. Shay just is
Speaker 1: so efficient, but not efficient in like the way like
Speaker 1: he doesn't get to the line that much, which is
Speaker 1: like you know, cardinal sin of like efficiency expert, like
Speaker 1: the people you know you're supposed to get to the
Speaker 1: line all the time. He doesn't get to the line
Speaker 1: that much. He's just so good at beating his man,
Speaker 1: like every single time he just gets past whoever's in
Speaker 1: front of him and then just always makes the right
Speaker 1: decision and always gets to his spot and is just
Speaker 1: shooting at such a high level to the point that
Speaker 1: he is like a profound favorite for MVP right now,
Speaker 1: Like it's not even close, like it's he's a big favorite,
Speaker 1: which is wild when you think about the season that
Speaker 1: Yokic just having. But yeah, so he had forty points
Speaker 1: eight assists in three quarters. You know, on the cav side,
Speaker 1: like sometimes it's just not your night. Garland put up
Speaker 1: twenty points nine assists, Mitchell struggled from the floor, shooting
Speaker 1: just three or fifteen, and Mobiley hasn't played since this
Speaker 1: game due to what is being described as a mild
Speaker 1: calf strain, which seems to be going around.
Speaker 2: Only mild one is not yours.
Speaker 1: That's right, Hey, I appreciate that, man. That's good, Jim
Speaker 1: teacher logic. Hey, Jim Teachers say, but yeah, did anybody
Speaker 1: watch this? What were your thoughts?
Speaker 4: I watched it for sure, because you know, they had
Speaker 4: a matchup earlier. The Cavs squeaked out a win in
Speaker 4: that one, and then the Thunder got their revenge in
Speaker 4: a big way, and you kind of touched on it,
Speaker 4: like their ability to go small and their ability for
Speaker 4: most of this season now to play without Chet and
Speaker 4: without Isaiah Hartenstein is insane because there are I don't
Speaker 4: think there's another team in the NBA, maybe the Celtics
Speaker 4: that could do what the what the Thunder are doing
Speaker 4: without their one or two main big men. Like it's
Speaker 4: it's kind of nuts the way that they're able to defend. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're going to give up offensive rebounds depending on their opponent,
Speaker 4: but they're going to dictate the way that the game goes,
Speaker 4: the style of play, the tempo of it, and they're
Speaker 4: just going to continue to do their things. So come
Speaker 4: playoff time, you know, obviously you want Chet and Hartenstein
Speaker 4: healthy because they help in a big way and they
Speaker 4: can continue to play the way they play with those
Speaker 4: guys out there. But like if they do need to
Speaker 4: go small, or if Chet gets hurt again or Hartenstein
Speaker 4: is out for whatever reason, they're fully capable of winning
Speaker 4: the West without having like a traditional starting center, which
Speaker 4: is just kind of insane to talk about. The talent,
Speaker 4: the versatility, and the way that Mark dagni Alt coaches.
Speaker 4: It's it's impressive.
Speaker 2: I look at them as as long as you're not
Speaker 2: facing you know, Jokic in that first round or something
Speaker 2: like that, or like or that matchup eventually, anyhow you're
Speaker 2: probably okay. You kind of to your point with the
Speaker 2: way that they play, the way that they all show up,
Speaker 2: and the way that they all you know, embrace their roles.
Speaker 2: One thing I just want to mention here, Jack, just
Speaker 2: last week, anytime there's gonna be like a dummy moment
Speaker 2: of the show, it's probably from me.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Just last week I was saying, Hey, the Calves are
Speaker 2: gonna keep on rolling, not necessarily in just in this matchup,
Speaker 2: but I can't really see a scenario where they, you know,
Speaker 2: where they aren't dominant and.
Speaker 1: Hurt.
Speaker 2: The confluents of things you got motely getting hurt. You
Speaker 2: get an off night from one of the guards, or
Speaker 2: but you know, a couple of the guards, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it does not look the same. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what, shout out to our guy Max R
Speaker 2: on the discord and you know, kaz fans in general.
Speaker 2: But I hope I did not put the curse on
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I did. I said, could we please
Speaker 1: record a pickup where I come in and I just say, Jabbari,
Speaker 1: you fool, And that sounds really here it was. But uh,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you remember everything that Like you're the
Speaker 1: opposite of like everybody on ESPN who like just completely
Speaker 1: memory holes every wrong thing they've ever said. So they
Speaker 1: have the ability you remember like things that are only
Speaker 1: slightly wrong that you've said. And I respect that about you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: honorable mention. Moment of the week was probably uh jaw
Speaker 1: dunking over Wemby in a situation where it didn't even count,
Speaker 1: but we go prescient. Last week, we were talking about
Speaker 1: how this this matchup seems to be the most comic
Speaker 1: book like Marvel character matchup that we've ever had in
Speaker 1: the NBA, Like with both of them playing really at
Speaker 1: the top level of their game. Jaw just violently like
Speaker 1: flying through the air like Spider Man and then violently
Speaker 1: dunking on people versus Wemby doing his mister incredible, you know,
Speaker 1: stretchy thing, and we got we got the scene from
Speaker 1: the trailer in this in this game, and for cinematic purposes,
Speaker 1: John came out on top.
Speaker 4: That was insane, man, because like I also, do you
Speaker 4: remember when he said he was gonna stop dunking, like not.
Speaker 1: That long ago? Yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like I I tweeted it out at the
Speaker 4: time because I tweeted like a graphic of him saying
Speaker 4: that and then a freeze frame of it, and then
Speaker 4: there's like the John mulaney meme where it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: like a liar.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was.
Speaker 4: It was funny because they Sports Center they do this
Speaker 4: thing on the video board where they take tweets and
Speaker 4: put them along with plays and they put mine up there,
Speaker 4: and of course it's like the type of tweet that
Speaker 4: got like thirty nine likes or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got some friends at Sports Center, I guess.
Speaker 4: But it was that was an insane dunk man like
Speaker 4: that was you're right, it's very movie trailer esque. And
Speaker 4: then in the actual movie you see it at the
Speaker 4: same time from like three different angles.
Speaker 1: It was. That was crazy. Yeah, that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: One other thing I just wanted to say about the
Speaker 1: thunder so I red some analysis this week that their
Speaker 1: defense is very dependent on takeaways. They're really good at
Speaker 1: creating turnovers, and that that's something that has a tendency
Speaker 1: to come down a little bit in the playoffs when
Speaker 1: you're like facing just ninety five percent of the possessions
Speaker 1: coming from the MAVs that are like Luca ISOs and
Speaker 1: so there's like not as many passes. But I do
Speaker 1: feel like once once they got those bigs in there,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, they got length.
Speaker 2: Everywhere they get in the baths and lanes, they pressed,
Speaker 2: you know, they press you. I don't feel like that's
Speaker 2: going to decline.
Speaker 1: I had them winning the championship last year, and I
Speaker 1: would it would have been such a such a huge bet.
Speaker 1: Do you think they'll do you think Vegas will honor
Speaker 1: that bet for this season?
Speaker 2: They went cross it out, you know, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: correction on there, see what they say.
Speaker 1: They're usually cool about stuff like.
Speaker 2: That, right, totally cool, totally.
Speaker 1: There's no movies about weird things they do to people
Speaker 1: when they get caught counting cards all right around the league. Further,
Speaker 1: what's going on in the Western Conference. The Celtics beat
Speaker 1: the Warriors by forty in honor of Inauguration Day, Golden
Speaker 1: State's worst home loss since Kerr took over. The Warriors
Speaker 1: would be on the outside looking in at the play
Speaker 1: and if the season ended today, this again feels like one.
Speaker 1: I don't know. When the season kicked off, I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe I was wrong. I thought they were too old
Speaker 1: and like not. I didn't think what they had done
Speaker 1: was putting them in a position to win, and they
Speaker 1: like had a really good start to the season. It's
Speaker 1: kind of similar to the Suns. But since then it
Speaker 1: just feels like things are kind of settling to this
Speaker 1: is maybe who they are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely feels that way. They're very similar to
Speaker 4: the Suns, because at the start of the season it
Speaker 4: was like Suns, OKC, and Warriors at the top of
Speaker 4: the West, and now two of those three are both
Speaker 4: like five hundred basketball teams, and it feels like they're
Speaker 4: just a mismanaged group that doesn't really fit together. Like
Speaker 4: that Dennis Shrewder trade hasn't really paid off for them
Speaker 4: in any way, shape or form. It's still like, I
Speaker 4: still have no idea what they want to do with
Speaker 4: Jonathan kaminga the short term and for the long term,
Speaker 4: they really need help in the front court because like
Speaker 4: Draymond is still a great defender, but he's getting up there.
Speaker 4: Trace Jackson Davis kind of is what he is at
Speaker 4: this stage of his career. I genuinely don't know what
Speaker 4: to make of them or how you fix a team
Speaker 4: like that at the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, I don't know. Steph has specifically said like,
Speaker 1: if you think I like being on an average team,
Speaker 1: you're insane. I think it is the direct quote.
Speaker 2: Similar messaging from Steph and Lebron of late where like, no,
Speaker 2: we're not I'm not good with this. I'm not good
Speaker 2: with basically saying yeah, I don't want to say this,
Speaker 2: but sell this roster out. I do not care do
Speaker 2: what it takes to put me back in a conversation.
Speaker 2: And it's to me, it's really going to be a
Speaker 2: matter of you know which team Bucals first.
Speaker 1: Mm hm, who do we think is gonna be Sorry
Speaker 1: to interrupt, you guys want some breaking news here we
Speaker 1: just got Yeah, it's nothing major, but it is on
Speaker 1: my end. I guess the Sons are trading their twenty
Speaker 1: thirty one first round pick to the Jazz for three
Speaker 1: first round picks. So that's the least favorable first in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five of Cleveland slash Minnesota, twenty twenty seven
Speaker 1: of Cleveland slash Minnesota slash Utah, and twenty twenty nine
Speaker 1: of Cleveland slash Minnesota slash Utah. So they just turned
Speaker 1: their first that could be pretty valuable into three firsts
Speaker 1: that are at least favorable around Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so they are in. They're they're going to
Speaker 2: be They're going to make a move before the deadline.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it would appear that way. It appears.
Speaker 4: Look, I'm everything is pointing to some sort of Jimmy
Speaker 4: Butler trade for this team, like everything, Like Jimmy Butler
Speaker 4: wants to be in Phoenix. The Suns have been benching
Speaker 4: Bradley Beal to get him to be more open to
Speaker 4: waving his no trade clause. They're trying to loop in
Speaker 4: moremultiple teams because Miami doesn't want Bradley Beal. I would
Speaker 4: be shocked if Butler's not in a Sun's uniform after
Speaker 4: the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: But interesting, But yeah, assuming that nobody wants Bradley Beal,
Speaker 1: what how do they do it? Would they do it
Speaker 1: with like picks, just picks?
Speaker 4: They just well so that yeah, so Bill would have
Speaker 4: to go somewhere. And I think, like Mark Stein reported
Speaker 4: that Milwaukee is a team that might be interested in Bill.
Speaker 1: Why, I don't really know, but it's all the teams
Speaker 1: with the same right keep making the same mistake over it.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the guard who keeps breaking down a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, Like I don't understand it from their perspective.
Speaker 1: But they were named, uh, the Magic or another team
Speaker 1: that hasn't been reported or anything. But I feel like
Speaker 1: they like they're dead last and three point percentage. They
Speaker 1: could use another offensive weapon. Obviously they got Pallo and
Speaker 1: Franz when they're healthy, but like in the backcourt, he
Speaker 1: would automatically be their number one like scoring option. And
Speaker 1: I think for brad that would make sense too, because
Speaker 1: he'd go from a worst team to a better team.
Speaker 1: For one, he'd go back to the East where it's easier.
Speaker 1: And I think Orlando is only like two hours away
Speaker 1: from Gainesville where he went to college. So Florida guy,
Speaker 1: Florida man, I could see it. Has he been playing
Speaker 1: much this year? Like, how's he been playing, Brad?
Speaker 4: He's been so he's been missing a good amount of
Speaker 4: games with you know, the random things that tend to
Speaker 4: come up with Bradley Beal unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Okay, he's played.
Speaker 4: Mostly well when he's been out there, Like he shot
Speaker 4: the ball really well. He could help their three point shooting.
Speaker 4: He's still averaging like eighteen points a game as a
Speaker 4: third option. But that moved to the bench is like
Speaker 4: that's a bell you can't really unring in Phoenix, honestly, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: It felt like a move where like they did it knowing, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is going to be the end of things at
Speaker 2: some point, which I understand.
Speaker 1: It did all right, or yeah, I'm just I guess
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical that anybody wants Bradley Beal at this point
Speaker 1: with the size of his contract and the number of
Speaker 1: injuries that keep occurring. But I do love anytime a
Speaker 1: team that has a flaw and has like certain strengths
Speaker 1: just doubles down on both on both and like Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler going to the Suns would be amazing, that would
Speaker 1: be fun.
Speaker 4: It'd be good content. I don't know if it'd be
Speaker 4: good for them long term, because I don't know if
Speaker 4: Butler changes things. I mean, he obviously gives them like
Speaker 4: that dog that they kind of need. He gives them
Speaker 4: a mental edge, he gives them like more size on
Speaker 4: the wing. I don't know where he fits in in
Speaker 4: terms of, like a team that wants to shoot more threes.
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler doesn't help you there. And then you have
Speaker 4: to sign him to probably a two or three year
Speaker 4: deal in the off season when he's thirty five. Like,
Speaker 4: if you're trading for him, you're extending him.
Speaker 1: There's no way you're just yeah. H So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know either. The MAVs three and seven over
Speaker 1: the last ten, with Luca set to be reevaluated in
Speaker 1: the next week or so. But they are four and
Speaker 1: ten since he left their Christmas Day game with a
Speaker 1: calf strain, which is kind of what you would expect
Speaker 1: from a team that is, like, you know, from a
Speaker 1: player that good and a center. It is that heliocentric. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Wolves are five and five over the last ten,
Speaker 1: only a game ahead of the Warriors, not the follow
Speaker 1: up to last year's conference finals run that everybody was expecting.
Speaker 1: So this is kind of an interesting stat, Jabar you
Speaker 1: want to share it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised. ESPN's Michael c Right, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's like I was talking to Jack but ahead of
Speaker 2: the show, and I said, it's kind of like when
Speaker 2: people would give me, like the Kobe Klutz stats, I'd say, no,
Speaker 2: I don't care what you say. I watched the games
Speaker 2: and it's better than that no matter what. But yeah,
Speaker 2: this one came out following his miss at the Buzzer
Speaker 2: versus the Grizzlies on Monday. But per ESPN research and
Speaker 2: Edwards is now zero for twelve on go ahead and
Speaker 2: game time field goal attempts in the final five seconds
Speaker 2: of the fourth quarter and overtime in his career. And
Speaker 2: you know, I look it's it's still early in his career,
Speaker 2: so and I figure at some point he's going to
Speaker 2: make one, But for whatever reason, I just didn't anticipate
Speaker 2: it being oh for twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh for twelve is really low. That's uh, that's
Speaker 1: not good. I would want somebody who makes that shot
Speaker 1: more often than yeah they miss it with twelve hey,
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, more often than that or more often
Speaker 1: than yeah, Like what what if you've made it like
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time like a bat like a
Speaker 1: basketball shot. This also says Lebron has more attempts with
Speaker 1: how to make during that span. Is that does that
Speaker 1: ring true to you as a Lakers fan?
Speaker 2: Yes, it does.
Speaker 1: He's just missing everything at the end of the game.
Speaker 2: I haven't it's been it's been a minute. It's been
Speaker 2: a minute, and you know what, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: even I'm not even trying to knock him. But that
Speaker 2: doesn't surprise me. Whereas the ants, the ants that did, Like.
Speaker 1: I thought for sure he had like a big shot
Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year, but I guess those were
Speaker 1: not like end of game game winners.
Speaker 2: Right, there is the caveat of under your five seconds
Speaker 2: or less, So like if he hits it with twenty
Speaker 2: five seconds in.
Speaker 1: A sure Yeah, yeah, not good enough for us. You'll
Speaker 1: try again next time. Yeah, all right, Gerald, We want
Speaker 1: you to rank these Western Conference teams by need of
Speaker 1: a deadline deal. We got Warriors, we got Sons, we
Speaker 1: got Lakers, we got Wolves. Who is most in need
Speaker 1: and most likely to make a deal.
Speaker 4: I don't want to sound biased, but number one for
Speaker 4: me has got to be the Suns. They've got the
Speaker 4: most expensive payroll in the league in NBA history. They're
Speaker 4: so far in the red with what they've committed to
Speaker 4: this roster, and they are a five hundred basketball team.
Speaker 4: That's just not good enough. Jimmy Butler wants to come
Speaker 4: here that they've got to be number one in terms
Speaker 4: of needs to make a move, and probably will make
Speaker 4: a move, especially now that we just got that report
Speaker 4: that they turned one future first into three first to
Speaker 4: kind of using deals elsewhere.
Speaker 1: Most likely. Yeah, I think, I mean, it seems like
Speaker 1: the desperation is real. You're on the ground. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you can he's not desperate as hell. Bro, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you. So I think Suns first.
Speaker 4: And then this is tough because I feel like the
Speaker 4: Timberwolve sort of made their bed with the cat trade
Speaker 4: and they would like to get out of that bed
Speaker 4: for sure, but I just don't know how. So I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go with the Warriors number two, just because, like
Speaker 4: it's Steph Curry. You can't continue to waste what's left
Speaker 4: of him, and with him publicly coming out and saying like,
Speaker 4: if you think I'm okay with being on an average team,
Speaker 4: you're crazy like that, that's something he doesn't tend to
Speaker 4: do very often. I feel like, like Lebron has said
Speaker 4: has echoed similar sentiments, but like he's still living in La,
Speaker 4: He's still on the Lakers. It doesn't feel like he's
Speaker 4: going to leave anytime soon. I guess, like I don't.
Speaker 4: I feel like he just kind of is resigned. It
Speaker 4: is what it is, so he's I think the Lakers
Speaker 4: are probably fourth, and then I put the Timberwolves third
Speaker 4: in that in that pecking order, Yeah, okay, Jabari, I.
Speaker 2: Can tell you the Lakers will be higher on my list,
Speaker 2: but that's because I'm personally biased. But I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I think you're actually right where you know, whether Lebron
Speaker 2: is resigned to it or the organization has already like
Speaker 2: you know, kind of like Doesne the stair down the stair,
Speaker 2: you know, the stair off enough with him over the
Speaker 2: last five six years. It would surprise me if they
Speaker 2: swung for the fences. But I could see them doing
Speaker 2: another deal similar to the level of like the DFS,
Speaker 2: you know, Dorry Pinnysmith and you know Shake Milton.
Speaker 1: Deal, trying to recreate that deal from a couple of
Speaker 1: years back, where like you guys made it, made a
Speaker 1: deal and like things started coming together. Yeah, they made
Speaker 1: like some small pieces moving around.
Speaker 2: Made it to the conference finals unexpectedly with Darvinham. You know,
Speaker 2: like I'll be honest with you, if I'm in that
Speaker 2: front office, I'm probably thinking we can make magic happen.
Speaker 2: Look at what we did there. Yeah, but they probably
Speaker 2: shouldn't be thinking that way either way, But just quickly,
Speaker 2: what's a deal that would make sense for all of
Speaker 2: those stamps.
Speaker 1: So for the Sons, it sounds like we're saying for
Speaker 1: the fences looks like him, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's probably yeah, Butler for Sons Lakers, I kind of
Speaker 4: like either Nikolo Vucevic or I don't know, either Robert
Speaker 4: Williams or Jonas valanciunis like one of those bigs that's available.
Speaker 4: I know that they probably want help at the center spot.
Speaker 4: I think JV would be a lot more attainable for
Speaker 4: a lot less, but you're also getting a lot less,
Speaker 4: so I don't know. Jabari is the Lakers guy. How
Speaker 4: would you feel about any of those guys?
Speaker 2: Not great? I mean there's a reason why. You know,
Speaker 2: sometimes people are available because you know, like for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: their time is come to again. And then there's other
Speaker 2: times where it's like you're always available, and if you're
Speaker 2: always if you're always available there, you know there is
Speaker 2: a reason. I think each of them would be an upgrade.
Speaker 2: I love what Robert Williams can bring to the two
Speaker 2: A team when he's healthy, but part of me has
Speaker 2: been waiting for that for to pay last five years plus.
Speaker 2: I think he if he does go anywhere, I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna end up in Reunited with I may in Houston,
Speaker 2: but I guess. I guess time will tell on that.
Speaker 2: I would be fine with any either of those deals
Speaker 2: as a Lakers fan because I do think it would
Speaker 2: improve them.
Speaker 4: And is zach Levian off the table? What's what's the
Speaker 4: latest there that would be interesting. I think you got it.
Speaker 4: You would have to compile for a lot of salary
Speaker 4: to make that happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, And.
Speaker 2: I think it only happens if you're he You probably
Speaker 2: only get Zach if you're willing to give up Austin
Speaker 2: by no stretch. Lakers fans and non Lakers fans, by
Speaker 2: no stretch of my saying, hey, Austin's untouchable, but it
Speaker 2: seems as though they value him to that degree. So yeah,
Speaker 2: you who knows.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know it could, but Lakers fans seem to
Speaker 1: really like this guy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break, and when we
Speaker 1: come back, we are, of course, headed into the fastest
Speaker 1: segment in podcasting, let alone basketball podcasting, the rapid fire
Speaker 1: round of questioning, all of that. When we get back,
Speaker 1: we'll be right back and we're back and Gerald you ready,
Speaker 1: I'm ready?
Speaker 2: Oh I don't think he is.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really sound like it, did.
Speaker 1: You see the way he said he was ready? Seeing
Speaker 1: it a million times, you know, walking in here like
Speaker 1: a baby lamb. Just all right, So this is we're
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna fire some questions at you. Uh, and
Speaker 1: you are going to react as fast as you can.
Speaker 1: No thought given whatsoever to these questions. You just first instinct,
Speaker 1: first thought, best thought, falcom glad well blink, you know,
Speaker 1: just get give us what your impression is. And Jabari,
Speaker 1: do you want to go first? Or do you do?
Speaker 1: You want me to go first?
Speaker 2: You go first? You always.
Speaker 1: Brian start the clock, a big important Brian the claw
Speaker 1: there it is all right, we're gonna do a this
Speaker 1: or that Gerald which Uh, you know We're we're gonna
Speaker 1: create a player. We're gonna play a little game of
Speaker 1: creat a player. And you got to tell us who
Speaker 1: you like better? You ready, I'm ready? Okay? Do you
Speaker 1: want Steve Nash with prime thunder, Dan Marley's athleticism or
Speaker 1: a seven foot DEVN book, seven foot DEVN, seven foot
Speaker 1: devon you want a seven foot DEVN? Okay?
Speaker 2: Is that basically KD?
Speaker 1: Kind of? Yeah? All right, I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna prejudge anything here. I'm not gonna send anything in
Speaker 1: one direction or the other. Uh. Do you want KD
Speaker 1: with Nash's court vision and passing skills or a seven
Speaker 1: foot Charles Barkley KD with Nash's passing skills, I think
Speaker 1: that might be the best thing we created. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is crazy. That would be wild. Yeah, uh, seven foot
Speaker 1: Barkley would not be when you think about the fact
Speaker 1: that Barkley was six ' four, yeah, and played as
Speaker 1: big as he did. Seven foot Barkley might be shack status,
Speaker 1: but Hag with Nash's court vision would be like disgusting.
Speaker 1: If Wemby was like so nasty, like if Wemby was
Speaker 1: like the best shooter of all time, one of the
Speaker 1: best shooters of all time. These are really fun. By
Speaker 1: the way, this is Jabari's invention and I love it all. Right,
Speaker 1: Amari in today's game or Kevin Johnson in today's game. Hmmm,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go Amari, Okay, Yeah, interesting would
Speaker 1: be a little bit undersized he was.
Speaker 4: That's probably my biggest reason why is now Amari you'd
Speaker 4: probably teach him how to shoot a three ball or
Speaker 4: play small ball five or something.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, Kevin Johnson Cabald he could.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just like to see him going against
Speaker 2: today's guards. But you know, either way, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't think I don't think you have a bad choice
Speaker 2: either way.
Speaker 1: That's just ruined my dream. You know, all right? Great
Speaker 1: keeping it going.
Speaker 2: I got a scenario for you. Who wins a dunk
Speaker 2: contest between Ant and Jaw and with that top that
Speaker 2: classic Aaron Gordon Versus Levine showdown in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4: It wouldn't because I don't think we'll get anything that's
Speaker 4: that good in terms of like, I think both of
Speaker 4: them are high flying dunkers, but I think like Aaron
Speaker 4: Gordon and Zach Levine, like the things that they did
Speaker 4: in the air. Until you see those guys do it,
Speaker 4: I don't know if they could measure up. But I
Speaker 4: might go Jaw just because I feel like he's smaller,
Speaker 4: so I feel like he could do more things with the.
Speaker 1: Ball in the air look more impressive. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I still want that, but I don't.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're got to get it.
Speaker 1: I think love makes me.
Speaker 4: I would love to see guys that aren't like rookies
Speaker 4: or second year players be in the dunk contest again.
Speaker 2: That would be fun, make the dun exciting, to get.
Speaker 1: The thing the play that makes me most excited about Jah.
Speaker 1: There's two of them that aren't dunks, but that would
Speaker 1: make me like so super excited about the idea of
Speaker 1: him in a dunk contest. Wanted just like the like
Speaker 1: three sixty laps, the two that he did this this year,
Speaker 1: Just like I feel like you would just go up
Speaker 1: there and improvise like the most disgusting dunk that we've
Speaker 1: ever seen. And then the other one is when he
Speaker 1: caught that guy's shot at the top of the back
Speaker 1: poor against the Lakers on a breakaway, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like he could do something we've never seen
Speaker 1: in terms of like how high above the rim he
Speaker 1: would get?
Speaker 2: So yes, please sign.
Speaker 1: Has anybody ever just jumped up and like sat on
Speaker 1: the rim? I feel like I could see you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, just like jumped up and like slowly
Speaker 1: just like landed on the rim. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, it is that all important question. What will
Speaker 1: be the MJGMB Game of the week. Some things we've
Speaker 1: learned from past weeks. Last week we messed up. We
Speaker 1: went with Thunder Calves instead of using Marvel logic and
Speaker 1: saying what would be the best comic book and that
Speaker 1: would be ja Vers Wemby. And also, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who you pick because it's going to be a blowout
Speaker 1: if we pick it as the game of the week.
Speaker 2: So just tell the.
Speaker 1: One that you want to see be the biggest blowout
Speaker 1: our candidates. Thursday, we've got Spurs at Pacers at two
Speaker 1: pm on NBA TV two pm Eastern, So really that's
Speaker 1: a good question. Oh it's in Paris, yeah, oh, or
Speaker 1: of course you have Celtics at Lakers, so I don't know,
Speaker 1: it'll just be interesting to see them playing through clouds
Speaker 1: of cigarette smoke. And you know, I feel like Lebron
Speaker 1: will be having some Caberne on the on the bench.
Speaker 1: It's caberne, even a French wine. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about weeks.
Speaker 2: I should specify Celtics and Lakers are not in Paris.
Speaker 1: Celtics Lakers are not in Paris. Yeah, all right, anyways,
Speaker 1: so that that's one option. Spurs at Pacers in Poly.
Speaker 1: Saturday we got Rockets of Calves, which is just gonna
Speaker 1: be local, so you're just gonna have to watch it
Speaker 1: on YouTube TV or League the Highlights, League Path. And
Speaker 1: then Sunday we got Bucks at Clippers. The Clippers, you'll
Speaker 1: notice are not in our list of teams that are
Speaker 1: you know, bottoming out. They are currently fifth and just
Speaker 1: and seem to be kind of hanging around in fifth
Speaker 1: despite having some people who everybody thought coming into the season, uh,
Speaker 1: we're going to have some of these problems that our
Speaker 1: teams have with you know, main important roster positions being
Speaker 1: played by the elderly. You know, they they have that,
Speaker 1: and yet they're finding a way to win games because
Speaker 1: they have one of the best coaches in the league.
Speaker 1: They just always always seem to find a way. And
Speaker 1: the Bucks are playing you know, Giannis is third in
Speaker 1: MVP voting, rightly, so he's playing credibly well. There they
Speaker 1: keep winning. I think where are they right now? Fourth
Speaker 1: in the East?
Speaker 2: Yeah, fourth in the East twenty and eight since that
Speaker 2: four and nine start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that one could be interesting. So those are
Speaker 1: our three candidate, Spurs at how you say, pay SAMs,
Speaker 1: Rockets at Calves, and Bucks at Clippers. Where you going?
Speaker 4: I'm taking Rockets at Calves, especially because I think Mobiley
Speaker 4: should be back by then from the capstrain, So I
Speaker 4: would like.
Speaker 1: To see that one for sure. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: good pick. I feel like I need to watch more
Speaker 1: Rockets this season, So that's what I'm glad you picked that,
Speaker 1: and it'll be a good opportunity for me to watch
Speaker 1: the Rockets get beat by forty points and really get
Speaker 1: as so, what's what's so good about them? Or vice versa.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you knows, all right. And finally, uh,
Speaker 1: your ultimate NBA Jam combination. You can mix old school
Speaker 1: and current across generations for your Phoenix Suns. Who do
Speaker 1: you pick? Oh?
Speaker 4: Man, that's a good question, all right, I gotta go, Man,
Speaker 4: this is I might just go, honestly with Devin Booker
Speaker 4: and Kevin Durant. And I know that's boring, but Katie's
Speaker 4: got the size, he's got the shooting. He could probably
Speaker 4: dunk in that game, Yeah, Booker, every player gets a
Speaker 4: dunk boost, so like book I mean books thrown down
Speaker 4: over a d It doesn't doesn't happen often, but like
Speaker 4: every now. But yeah, I'll probably go booking Katie. Maybe
Speaker 4: I'd throw Sean Marian in there, just because the defense
Speaker 4: I could. I could use an undersized shot blocker in
Speaker 4: that game. And it would be funny to watch NBA
Speaker 4: Jam version of his little.
Speaker 1: His Little three, yeah, where he shoots it from his
Speaker 1: waist somehow. Yeah, that's interesting. Was Barkley an NBA jam
Speaker 1: He never was. I think, oh, because he he would
Speaker 1: be interesting like he has that one. You know the
Speaker 1: fact that you can just body check people like really
Speaker 1: he might be the most interesting like NBA jam player.
Speaker 1: That never was because also, like you could, I just
Speaker 1: feel like you wouldn't be able to stop him, like
Speaker 1: when he's going to the basket and then you have
Speaker 1: a three point shooter like KD. I'm going KD and Barkley.
Speaker 1: Usually we tell people that all their answers were Correctna,
Speaker 1: I'm going to disagree on this one. D Barkley baby,
Speaker 1: except everything except for that, Gerald, you nailed it. It's
Speaker 1: been wonderful having you. Where can people find you? Follow
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can follow me on Twitter at Gerald Borga.
Speaker 4: You can read all my stuff over at gophn x
Speaker 4: dot com. And then we're on the Sun's podcast, the
Speaker 4: pH X Suns Podcast five days a week. We're on YouTube, Spotify,
Speaker 4: everywhere you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1: And Borgue b o U R g U e T.
Speaker 1: That's for people who didn't immediately assume how know how
Speaker 1: to spell it like I did. You know, not everybody
Speaker 1: can be as intuitive as me. Wonderful having you. We
Speaker 1: wish you all the best for the Suns this season.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting. It'll be interesting to see if any
Speaker 1: of these trades come together. Jabari, where can people find you?
Speaker 2: I'm simple Blue Sky these days, you know what. I'm
Speaker 2: not going on the other one anymore. So it is
Speaker 2: what it is at Jabori Davis NBA.
Speaker 1: All right. You can find me at Jack Underscore O'Brien
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