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Speaker 1: of the Phoenix Suns with lead pH n X writer

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Speaker 1: and podcaster Gerald Borgae on today's episode, I'm Jack O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: And I'm still producer Bori in for Miles and this is.

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Speaker 1: Sunscrabory, got mad booth an story, got it? I look

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Speaker 1: at hitch ten kay.

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Speaker 3: D driving Spinny Fatter number eighteen that's been secured the

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Speaker 3: Celtics or NBA champions over the.

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Speaker 1: Couple teams, be honest with the time, look, no shot time,

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Speaker 1: what you go? Yes? What's going on? Gerald? Not a

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Speaker 4: When you teed that up as far as teams in

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Speaker 4: A kind of a little depressing, honestly, Yeah, are you not.

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Speaker 1: Used to it at this point? You're like, because this

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Speaker 4: They had to win like six of eight heading into

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the podcast pH NX Sons is awesome. We're

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Speaker 1: thrilled to have you here, and let's just jump right

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Speaker 1: how we feeling in the Suns and Sons land not

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Speaker 1: great over here. I mean, I'm a Sixers fan, So

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Speaker 1: just in case you think I'm being like some snarky

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Speaker 4: I feel like there's like eight teams that are in

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Speaker 1: a competition is that? Though? Is that I was working

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Speaker 1: My philosophy is a coach long twos. There's just an

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Speaker 1: teacher logic. Hey, Jim Teachers say, but yeah, did anybody

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I did. I said, could we please

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Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, I don't know. Steph has specifically said like,

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Speaker 1: if you think I like being on an average team,

435
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: you're insane. I think it is the direct quote.

436
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: Similar messaging from Steph and Lebron of late where like, no,

437
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: we're not I'm not good with this. I'm not good

438
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: with basically saying yeah, I don't want to say this,

439
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: but sell this roster out. I do not care do

440
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 2: what it takes to put me back in a conversation.

441
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: And it's to me, it's really going to be a

442
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: matter of you know which team Bucals first.

443
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Speaker 1: Mm hm, who do we think is gonna be Sorry

444
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: to interrupt, you guys want some breaking news here we

445
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: just got Yeah, it's nothing major, but it is on

446
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: my end. I guess the Sons are trading their twenty

447
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: thirty one first round pick to the Jazz for three

448
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: first round picks. So that's the least favorable first in

449
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five of Cleveland slash Minnesota, twenty twenty seven

450
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: of Cleveland slash Minnesota slash Utah, and twenty twenty nine

451
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: of Cleveland slash Minnesota slash Utah. So they just turned

452
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Speaker 1: their first that could be pretty valuable into three firsts

453
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: that are at least favorable around Yeah.

454
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so they are in. They're they're going to

455
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Speaker 2: be They're going to make a move before the deadline.

456
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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it would appear that way. It appears.

457
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 4: Look, I'm everything is pointing to some sort of Jimmy

458
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 4: Butler trade for this team, like everything, Like Jimmy Butler

459
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 4: wants to be in Phoenix. The Suns have been benching

460
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 4: Bradley Beal to get him to be more open to

461
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 4: waving his no trade clause. They're trying to loop in

462
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 4: moremultiple teams because Miami doesn't want Bradley Beal. I would

463
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: be shocked if Butler's not in a Sun's uniform after

464
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 4: the trade deadline.

465
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: But interesting, But yeah, assuming that nobody wants Bradley Beal,

466
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: what how do they do it? Would they do it

467
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: with like picks, just picks?

468
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 4: They just well so that yeah, so Bill would have

469
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 4: to go somewhere. And I think, like Mark Stein reported

470
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Speaker 4: that Milwaukee is a team that might be interested in Bill.

471
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Speaker 1: Why, I don't really know, but it's all the teams

472
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: with the same right keep making the same mistake over it.

473
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Speaker 1: I don't understand the guard who keeps breaking down a

474
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, Like I don't understand it from their perspective.

475
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Speaker 1: But they were named, uh, the Magic or another team

476
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: that hasn't been reported or anything. But I feel like

477
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: they like they're dead last and three point percentage. They

478
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: could use another offensive weapon. Obviously they got Pallo and

479
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: Franz when they're healthy, but like in the backcourt, he

480
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: would automatically be their number one like scoring option. And

481
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Speaker 1: I think for brad that would make sense too, because

482
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: he'd go from a worst team to a better team.

483
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: For one, he'd go back to the East where it's easier.

484
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: And I think Orlando is only like two hours away

485
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Speaker 1: from Gainesville where he went to college. So Florida guy,

486
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: Florida man, I could see it. Has he been playing

487
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: much this year? Like, how's he been playing, Brad?

488
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 4: He's been so he's been missing a good amount of

489
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 4: games with you know, the random things that tend to

490
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 4: come up with Bradley Beal unfortunately.

491
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: Okay, he's played.

492
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 4: Mostly well when he's been out there, Like he shot

493
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 4: the ball really well. He could help their three point shooting.

494
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 4: He's still averaging like eighteen points a game as a

495
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: third option. But that moved to the bench is like

496
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: that's a bell you can't really unring in Phoenix, honestly, Yeah, Okay.

497
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: It felt like a move where like they did it knowing, Okay,

498
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 2: this is going to be the end of things at

499
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Speaker 2: some point, which I understand.

500
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Speaker 1: It did all right, or yeah, I'm just I guess

501
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical that anybody wants Bradley Beal at this point

502
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: with the size of his contract and the number of

503
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: injuries that keep occurring. But I do love anytime a

504
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: team that has a flaw and has like certain strengths

505
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: just doubles down on both on both and like Jimmy

506
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: Butler going to the Suns would be amazing, that would

507
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: be fun.

508
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: It'd be good content. I don't know if it'd be

509
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: good for them long term, because I don't know if

510
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: Butler changes things. I mean, he obviously gives them like

511
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 4: that dog that they kind of need. He gives them

512
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 4: a mental edge, he gives them like more size on

513
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 4: the wing. I don't know where he fits in in

514
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 4: terms of, like a team that wants to shoot more threes.

515
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler doesn't help you there. And then you have

516
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: to sign him to probably a two or three year

517
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Speaker 4: deal in the off season when he's thirty five. Like,

518
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Speaker 4: if you're trading for him, you're extending him.

519
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Speaker 1: There's no way you're just yeah. H So I don't know.

520
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: I don't know either. The MAVs three and seven over

521
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: the last ten, with Luca set to be reevaluated in

522
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: the next week or so. But they are four and

523
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: ten since he left their Christmas Day game with a

524
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: calf strain, which is kind of what you would expect

525
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: from a team that is, like, you know, from a

526
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: player that good and a center. It is that heliocentric. Yeah,

527
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: the Wolves are five and five over the last ten,

528
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: only a game ahead of the Warriors, not the follow

529
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Speaker 1: up to last year's conference finals run that everybody was expecting.

530
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: So this is kind of an interesting stat, Jabar you

531
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Speaker 1: want to share it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised. ESPN's Michael c Right, and you know,

533
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: it's like I was talking to Jack but ahead of

534
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 2: the show, and I said, it's kind of like when

535
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: people would give me, like the Kobe Klutz stats, I'd say, no,

536
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: I don't care what you say. I watched the games

537
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: and it's better than that no matter what. But yeah,

538
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 2: this one came out following his miss at the Buzzer

539
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: versus the Grizzlies on Monday. But per ESPN research and

540
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: Edwards is now zero for twelve on go ahead and

541
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: game time field goal attempts in the final five seconds

542
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: of the fourth quarter and overtime in his career. And

543
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: you know, I look it's it's still early in his career,

544
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: so and I figure at some point he's going to

545
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: make one, But for whatever reason, I just didn't anticipate

546
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: it being oh for twelve.

547
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh for twelve is really low. That's uh, that's

548
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: not good. I would want somebody who makes that shot

549
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: more often than yeah they miss it with twelve hey,

550
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, more often than that or more often

551
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: than yeah, Like what what if you've made it like

552
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time like a bat like a

553
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: basketball shot. This also says Lebron has more attempts with

554
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: how to make during that span. Is that does that

555
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: ring true to you as a Lakers fan?

556
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it does.

557
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: He's just missing everything at the end of the game.

558
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: I haven't it's been it's been a minute. It's been

559
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: a minute, and you know what, I'm not I'm not

560
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 2: even I'm not even trying to knock him. But that

561
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: doesn't surprise me. Whereas the ants, the ants that did, Like.

562
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: I thought for sure he had like a big shot

563
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year, but I guess those were

564
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: not like end of game game winners.

565
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 2: Right, there is the caveat of under your five seconds

566
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: or less, So like if he hits it with twenty

567
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: five seconds in.

568
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: A sure Yeah, yeah, not good enough for us. You'll

569
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: try again next time. Yeah, all right, Gerald, We want

570
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: you to rank these Western Conference teams by need of

571
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: a deadline deal. We got Warriors, we got Sons, we

572
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: got Lakers, we got Wolves. Who is most in need

573
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: and most likely to make a deal.

574
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: I don't want to sound biased, but number one for

575
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 4: me has got to be the Suns. They've got the

576
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: most expensive payroll in the league in NBA history. They're

577
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: so far in the red with what they've committed to

578
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 4: this roster, and they are a five hundred basketball team.

579
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 4: That's just not good enough. Jimmy Butler wants to come

580
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 4: here that they've got to be number one in terms

581
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: of needs to make a move, and probably will make

582
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: a move, especially now that we just got that report

583
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: that they turned one future first into three first to

584
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: kind of using deals elsewhere.

585
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: Most likely. Yeah, I think, I mean, it seems like

586
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: the desperation is real. You're on the ground. It sounds

587
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: like you can he's not desperate as hell. Bro, I'm

588
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you. So I think Suns first.

589
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: And then this is tough because I feel like the

590
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 4: Timberwolve sort of made their bed with the cat trade

591
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: and they would like to get out of that bed

592
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: for sure, but I just don't know how. So I'm

593
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 4: gonna go with the Warriors number two, just because, like

594
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: it's Steph Curry. You can't continue to waste what's left

595
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: of him, and with him publicly coming out and saying like,

596
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 4: if you think I'm okay with being on an average team,

597
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: you're crazy like that, that's something he doesn't tend to

598
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: do very often. I feel like, like Lebron has said

599
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: has echoed similar sentiments, but like he's still living in La,

600
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: He's still on the Lakers. It doesn't feel like he's

601
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 4: going to leave anytime soon. I guess, like I don't.

602
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 4: I feel like he just kind of is resigned. It

603
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 4: is what it is, so he's I think the Lakers

604
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: are probably fourth, and then I put the Timberwolves third

605
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: in that in that pecking order, Yeah, okay, Jabari, I.

606
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: Can tell you the Lakers will be higher on my list,

607
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: but that's because I'm personally biased. But I think you're right.

608
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: I think you're actually right where you know, whether Lebron

609
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: is resigned to it or the organization has already like

610
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: you know, kind of like Doesne the stair down the stair,

611
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: you know, the stair off enough with him over the

612
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: last five six years. It would surprise me if they

613
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: swung for the fences. But I could see them doing

614
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: another deal similar to the level of like the DFS,

615
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: you know, Dorry Pinnysmith and you know Shake Milton.

616
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: Deal, trying to recreate that deal from a couple of

617
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: years back, where like you guys made it, made a

618
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: deal and like things started coming together. Yeah, they made

619
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: like some small pieces moving around.

620
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: Made it to the conference finals unexpectedly with Darvinham. You know,

621
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: like I'll be honest with you, if I'm in that

622
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: front office, I'm probably thinking we can make magic happen.

623
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: Look at what we did there. Yeah, but they probably

624
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: shouldn't be thinking that way either way, But just quickly,

625
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: what's a deal that would make sense for all of

626
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 2: those stamps.

627
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: So for the Sons, it sounds like we're saying for

628
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: the fences looks like him, Yeah.

629
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: It's probably yeah, Butler for Sons Lakers, I kind of

630
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: like either Nikolo Vucevic or I don't know, either Robert

631
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: Williams or Jonas valanciunis like one of those bigs that's available.

632
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: I know that they probably want help at the center spot.

633
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 4: I think JV would be a lot more attainable for

634
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: a lot less, but you're also getting a lot less,

635
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: so I don't know. Jabari is the Lakers guy. How

636
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: would you feel about any of those guys?

637
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: Not great? I mean there's a reason why. You know,

638
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: sometimes people are available because you know, like for whatever reason,

639
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: their time is come to again. And then there's other

640
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: times where it's like you're always available, and if you're

641
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: always if you're always available there, you know there is

642
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: a reason. I think each of them would be an upgrade.

643
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: I love what Robert Williams can bring to the two

644
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 2: A team when he's healthy, but part of me has

645
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: been waiting for that for to pay last five years plus.

646
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: I think he if he does go anywhere, I think

647
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna end up in Reunited with I may in Houston,

648
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: but I guess. I guess time will tell on that.

649
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Speaker 2: I would be fine with any either of those deals

650
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Speaker 2: as a Lakers fan because I do think it would

651
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Speaker 2: improve them.

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Speaker 4: And is zach Levian off the table? What's what's the

653
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Speaker 4: latest there that would be interesting. I think you got it.

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Speaker 4: You would have to compile for a lot of salary

655
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Speaker 4: to make that happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, And.

657
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Speaker 2: I think it only happens if you're he You probably

658
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: only get Zach if you're willing to give up Austin

659
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: by no stretch. Lakers fans and non Lakers fans, by

660
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: no stretch of my saying, hey, Austin's untouchable, but it

661
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: seems as though they value him to that degree. So yeah,

662
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: you who knows.

663
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know it could, but Lakers fans seem to

664
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Speaker 1: really like this guy.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break, and when we

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Speaker 1: come back, we are, of course, headed into the fastest

668
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Speaker 1: segment in podcasting, let alone basketball podcasting, the rapid fire

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Speaker 1: round of questioning, all of that. When we get back,

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back and we're back and Gerald you ready,

671
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm ready?

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00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: Oh I don't think he is.

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00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't really sound like it, did.

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00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: You see the way he said he was ready? Seeing

676
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: it a million times, you know, walking in here like

677
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: a baby lamb. Just all right, So this is we're

678
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Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna fire some questions at you. Uh, and

679
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: you are going to react as fast as you can.

680
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: No thought given whatsoever to these questions. You just first instinct,

681
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: first thought, best thought, falcom glad well blink, you know,

682
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: just get give us what your impression is. And Jabari,

683
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: do you want to go first? Or do you do?

684
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: You want me to go first?

685
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: You go first? You always.

686
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: Brian start the clock, a big important Brian the claw

687
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: there it is all right, we're gonna do a this

688
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 1: or that Gerald which Uh, you know We're we're gonna

689
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: create a player. We're gonna play a little game of

690
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: creat a player. And you got to tell us who

691
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: you like better? You ready, I'm ready? Okay? Do you

692
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: want Steve Nash with prime thunder, Dan Marley's athleticism or

693
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: a seven foot DEVN book, seven foot DEVN, seven foot

694
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: devon you want a seven foot DEVN? Okay?

695
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: Is that basically KD?

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00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: Kind of? Yeah? All right, I'm not gonna I'm not

697
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna prejudge anything here. I'm not gonna send anything in

698
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: one direction or the other. Uh. Do you want KD

699
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: with Nash's court vision and passing skills or a seven

700
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: foot Charles Barkley KD with Nash's passing skills, I think

701
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: that might be the best thing we created. Yeah, it

702
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: is crazy. That would be wild. Yeah, uh, seven foot

703
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: Barkley would not be when you think about the fact

704
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: that Barkley was six ' four, yeah, and played as

705
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: big as he did. Seven foot Barkley might be shack status,

706
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: but Hag with Nash's court vision would be like disgusting.

707
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: If Wemby was like so nasty, like if Wemby was

708
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Speaker 1: like the best shooter of all time, one of the

709
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: best shooters of all time. These are really fun. By

710
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: the way, this is Jabari's invention and I love it all. Right,

711
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: Amari in today's game or Kevin Johnson in today's game. Hmmm,

712
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go Amari, Okay, Yeah, interesting would

713
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: be a little bit undersized he was.

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Speaker 4: That's probably my biggest reason why is now Amari you'd

715
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 4: probably teach him how to shoot a three ball or

716
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 4: play small ball five or something.

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00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, Kevin Johnson Cabald he could.

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00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just like to see him going against

719
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: today's guards. But you know, either way, I don't I

720
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: don't think I don't think you have a bad choice

721
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: either way.

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Speaker 1: That's just ruined my dream. You know, all right? Great

723
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: keeping it going.

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: I got a scenario for you. Who wins a dunk

725
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: contest between Ant and Jaw and with that top that

726
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: classic Aaron Gordon Versus Levine showdown in twenty sixteen.

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00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 4: It wouldn't because I don't think we'll get anything that's

728
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 4: that good in terms of like, I think both of

729
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 4: them are high flying dunkers, but I think like Aaron

730
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: Gordon and Zach Levine, like the things that they did

731
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 4: in the air. Until you see those guys do it,

732
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: I don't know if they could measure up. But I

733
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Speaker 4: might go Jaw just because I feel like he's smaller,

734
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 4: so I feel like he could do more things with the.

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Speaker 1: Ball in the air look more impressive. Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I still want that, but I don't.

737
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're got to get it.

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Speaker 1: I think love makes me.

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Speaker 4: I would love to see guys that aren't like rookies

740
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: or second year players be in the dunk contest again.

741
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Speaker 2: That would be fun, make the dun exciting, to get.

742
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: The thing the play that makes me most excited about Jah.

743
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: There's two of them that aren't dunks, but that would

744
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: make me like so super excited about the idea of

745
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: him in a dunk contest. Wanted just like the like

746
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: three sixty laps, the two that he did this this year,

747
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: Just like I feel like you would just go up

748
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: there and improvise like the most disgusting dunk that we've

749
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: ever seen. And then the other one is when he

750
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: caught that guy's shot at the top of the back

751
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: poor against the Lakers on a breakaway, and it's like,

752
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: I feel like he could do something we've never seen

753
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: in terms of like how high above the rim he

754
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: would get?

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Speaker 2: So yes, please sign.

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00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: Has anybody ever just jumped up and like sat on

757
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: the rim? I feel like I could see you know

758
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, just like jumped up and like slowly

759
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: just like landed on the rim. I feel like, yeah,

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00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: all right, it is that all important question. What will

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00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: be the MJGMB Game of the week. Some things we've

762
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: learned from past weeks. Last week we messed up. We

763
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: went with Thunder Calves instead of using Marvel logic and

764
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: saying what would be the best comic book and that

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00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: would be ja Vers Wemby. And also, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: who you pick because it's going to be a blowout

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00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: if we pick it as the game of the week.

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Speaker 2: So just tell the.

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Speaker 1: One that you want to see be the biggest blowout

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00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: our candidates. Thursday, we've got Spurs at Pacers at two

771
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: pm on NBA TV two pm Eastern, So really that's

772
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: a good question. Oh it's in Paris, yeah, oh, or

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00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: of course you have Celtics at Lakers, so I don't know,

774
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: it'll just be interesting to see them playing through clouds

775
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: of cigarette smoke. And you know, I feel like Lebron

776
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: will be having some Caberne on the on the bench.

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00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: It's caberne, even a French wine. I don't I don't

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00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: know anything about weeks.

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00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 2: I should specify Celtics and Lakers are not in Paris.

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Speaker 1: Celtics Lakers are not in Paris. Yeah, all right, anyways,

781
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: so that that's one option. Spurs at Pacers in Poly.

782
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: Saturday we got Rockets of Calves, which is just gonna

783
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: be local, so you're just gonna have to watch it

784
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: on YouTube TV or League the Highlights, League Path. And

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00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: then Sunday we got Bucks at Clippers. The Clippers, you'll

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00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: notice are not in our list of teams that are

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00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, bottoming out. They are currently fifth and just

788
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: and seem to be kind of hanging around in fifth

789
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: despite having some people who everybody thought coming into the season, uh,

790
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: we're going to have some of these problems that our

791
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: teams have with you know, main important roster positions being

792
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: played by the elderly. You know, they they have that,

793
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: and yet they're finding a way to win games because

794
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: they have one of the best coaches in the league.

795
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: They just always always seem to find a way. And

796
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: the Bucks are playing you know, Giannis is third in

797
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: MVP voting, rightly, so he's playing credibly well. There they

798
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: keep winning. I think where are they right now? Fourth

799
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: in the East?

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00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, fourth in the East twenty and eight since that

801
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: four and nine start.

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00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that one could be interesting. So those are

803
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: our three candidate, Spurs at how you say, pay SAMs,

804
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: Rockets at Calves, and Bucks at Clippers. Where you going?

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00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: I'm taking Rockets at Calves, especially because I think Mobiley

806
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 4: should be back by then from the capstrain, So I

807
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 4: would like.

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00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: To see that one for sure. That's a that's a

809
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: good pick. I feel like I need to watch more

810
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: Rockets this season, So that's what I'm glad you picked that,

811
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: and it'll be a good opportunity for me to watch

812
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: the Rockets get beat by forty points and really get

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00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: as so, what's what's so good about them? Or vice versa.

814
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, you knows, all right. And finally, uh,

815
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: your ultimate NBA Jam combination. You can mix old school

816
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: and current across generations for your Phoenix Suns. Who do

817
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: you pick? Oh?

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00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 4: Man, that's a good question, all right, I gotta go, Man,

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00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 4: this is I might just go, honestly with Devin Booker

820
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: and Kevin Durant. And I know that's boring, but Katie's

821
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: got the size, he's got the shooting. He could probably

822
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 4: dunk in that game, Yeah, Booker, every player gets a

823
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 4: dunk boost, so like book I mean books thrown down

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00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 4: over a d It doesn't doesn't happen often, but like

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00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 4: every now. But yeah, I'll probably go booking Katie. Maybe

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00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 4: I'd throw Sean Marian in there, just because the defense

827
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: I could. I could use an undersized shot blocker in

828
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 4: that game. And it would be funny to watch NBA

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00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 4: Jam version of his little.

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Speaker 1: His Little three, yeah, where he shoots it from his

831
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: waist somehow. Yeah, that's interesting. Was Barkley an NBA jam

832
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: He never was. I think, oh, because he he would

833
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: be interesting like he has that one. You know the

834
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: fact that you can just body check people like really

835
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: he might be the most interesting like NBA jam player.

836
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: That never was because also, like you could, I just

837
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: feel like you wouldn't be able to stop him, like

838
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: when he's going to the basket and then you have

839
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: a three point shooter like KD. I'm going KD and Barkley.

840
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: Usually we tell people that all their answers were Correctna,

841
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to disagree on this one. D Barkley baby,

842
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: except everything except for that, Gerald, you nailed it. It's

843
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: been wonderful having you. Where can people find you? Follow

844
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff?

845
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can follow me on Twitter at Gerald Borga.

846
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 4: You can read all my stuff over at gophn x

847
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: dot com. And then we're on the Sun's podcast, the

848
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 4: pH X Suns Podcast five days a week. We're on YouTube, Spotify,

849
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: everywhere you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: And Borgue b o U R g U e T.

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Speaker 1: That's for people who didn't immediately assume how know how

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00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: to spell it like I did. You know, not everybody

853
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: can be as intuitive as me. Wonderful having you. We

854
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: wish you all the best for the Suns this season.

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00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting. It'll be interesting to see if any

856
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: of these trades come together. Jabari, where can people find you?

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00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: I'm simple Blue Sky these days, you know what. I'm

858
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: not going on the other one anymore. So it is

859
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Speaker 2: what it is at Jabori Davis NBA.

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Speaker 1: All right. You can find me at Jack Underscore O'Brien

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and at Jack ob The number one on

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Speaker 1: Blue Sky. Miles is at Miles of Gray on Twitter

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Speaker 1: link and updates, and be sure to join the conversation

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Speaker 1: on our disc or but you can also find the

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Speaker 1: link for when you search hashtag mat boosties. That is

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Speaker 1: going to do it or back next week with a

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Speaker 1: whole other episode. Enjoy the basketball. We'll talk to hell

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Speaker 1: then fight.

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Speaker 2: You mean, play basketball.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the basketball. That's like how David Lynch would sign

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Speaker 1: off from a basketball podcast. Enjoy Enjoy the basketball.