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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know

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Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast pre rap. I guess it's what you call that,

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Speaker 1: a right, Chuck? Yeah, sure, prolog Forward is a good one. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh and that's Chuck, and we are introducing a

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Speaker 1: live podcast that we recorded in San Diego just a

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Speaker 1: little while ago. Wait, July twelve, I think I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was the twelfth of July. It was

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Speaker 1: great fun though. At common Con. Yeah, it was a

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Speaker 1: All those people were sorry for the people that came

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Speaker 1: coming just out of interest. That was pretty weird, you know,

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Speaker 1: to see people They're like, I don't know who these

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Speaker 1: expectantly and then disappointed. Um, so we're gonna just kind

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Speaker 1: it's the recording of a live podcast. Jerry did a

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Speaker 1: great job recording it, and um, so here's us doing

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Speaker 1: time travel at Comic Con two thousand twelve. But those,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know, we have a podcast called stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's on a website called how stuff dot com,

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Speaker 1: our beloved website, and pretty soon we are going to

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Speaker 1: be on the Science Channel too in January. Right, Um,

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Speaker 1: time travel, Yeah, let's do Time Traveler. Everybody ready to

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Speaker 1: learn a little bit about time travel. We're just gonna

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Speaker 1: do our thing. We're recording this live. Everybody, say hi

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Speaker 1: to everybody who's not here. For fans of the show,

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Speaker 1: we have our producer, Jerry is actually here. I want

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Speaker 1: to say hi Jerry. Alright, brass tacks, Jerry, did you

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Speaker 1: so um chuck, gosh, have you ever heard of a

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Speaker 1: guy named Andrew Basaguel? I never know what to say

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Speaker 1: here because I do, But should I say now? Just

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Speaker 1: say maybe? Maybe? Okay? So let me tell you a

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Speaker 1: little bit about this guy. All right. He's a Seattle attorney.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know this guy, Okay, And ever since two

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Speaker 1: which was supposedly a DARPA initiative for time travel. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the U. S. Government was using children because apparently children

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Speaker 1: more so than adults. We should say that this guy

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Speaker 1: a big qualifier, very much. Um. But so he does

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Speaker 1: one point, um, where he was captured in a famous

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Speaker 1: And then he also traveled a Ford Steater several times,

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Speaker 1: with us bill these time portals. Now, far be it

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Speaker 1: from me to cast this persions on another person's story,

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Speaker 1: Chuck in. My motto is to each his own always. Yes,

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