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Speaker 1: Get in Touch with Technology was tech Stuff from stuff

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Hey everyone, and welcome to tech Stuff. This

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Speaker 1: is Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren, and it's time for

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Speaker 1: us to conclude, at least so far, the story of Twitter.

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Speaker 1: We started in the last episode with a description of

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Speaker 1: how the company, well really how the products started, and

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Speaker 1: left off towards the end of two thousand eight's We're

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Speaker 1: picking up in January two thousand nine, which was an

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Speaker 1: interesting story. The first major news story scooped by Twitter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: photo from the scene of the the US air airplane

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Speaker 1: a scoop by Twitter user Janice Crumbs Jay Crumbs, who

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Speaker 1: sent the tweet um quote photo length, there's a link

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Speaker 1: Hudson I'm on the ferry going to pick up the people. Crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I remember that story too, I mean obviously, uh And

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Speaker 1: and it was dramatic, you know, hearing all about that

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Speaker 1: it again, it really showed the potential power of this service. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: At the time, the company still only had twenty nine employees,

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Speaker 1: which was an increase of by by twenty one employees

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Speaker 1: from about two years previous, but still it was It

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Speaker 1: was a small, small endeavor relatively. Yeah, when you sit

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Speaker 1: of keeping it going might have also explained a little

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Speaker 1: any rate. In April two thousand nine, Mike Massimino made

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Speaker 1: the first tweet from outer space. But it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: space now. His message was from orbit launch was awesome.

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Speaker 1: I am feeling great, working hard and enjoying the magnificent views.

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Speaker 1: The adventure of a lifetime has begun. There were a

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Speaker 1: lot of exclamation marks in that too. To be fair,

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Speaker 1: be some expletives in there, but joyous expletives. Would you

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Speaker 1: hear you shouting from space? If I'm actually in space,

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Speaker 1: then no, But that's an entirely different podcast where we

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Speaker 1: can talk about why you don't hear in space at

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Speaker 1: any rate. In May of two thousand nine, the billionth

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Speaker 1: about lunch. Lunch. That's a good guess. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: statistically it's likely either lunch or someone complaining about some

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Speaker 1: other social networking service that those those are two safe

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Speaker 1: bets with Twitter. Um, And as much as I joke

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Speaker 1: teen thousands of In early June two thousand nine, Twitter

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Speaker 1: introduced verification. Now, this is another one of those little

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Speaker 1: controversial subjects. The idea was that it was to verify

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Speaker 1: certain high profile Twitter accounts, celebrities basically, yeah, so that

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Speaker 1: people would know that this is actually that person. It's

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Speaker 1: Like it might be someone's handler who is in charge

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Speaker 1: and I mean I've got a lot of friends in

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Speaker 1: you up, Gweitter, We are important. I mean, I'm getting

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Speaker 1: their pride. Right. Obviously we are making light of this,

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Speaker 1: they're also cases of companies, like uh, companies actually buddying

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Speaker 1: June two thousand nine, Twitter was being used by Iranian

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Speaker 1: showing that Twitter is a powerful tool beyond this kind

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Speaker 1: of change. Sure absolutely. Um. Dick Costello joined the company

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Speaker 1: Mr Arrington. April that is when Twitter launches promoted eats,

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Speaker 1: was a useful feature. So September two, thou eleven, that's

432
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: when it are added SMS functionality by allowing users to

433
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: tweet a photo via text message. Yeah and this, this

434
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: again might be one of those things that doesn't sound

435
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: like a huge deal to lots of people who tune

436
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: in here and therefore probably have really good access to

437
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: the internet, but um, but it's a really terrific accessibility

438
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: tool in terms of you know, not needing to have

439
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: WiFi or or or a special app. I mean, you

440
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: could have a feature phone that has a camera on

441
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: it and be able to use this. And you know,

442
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: there's some feature phones out there that don't support any apps.

443
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: They don't have an OS that can run apps. So

444
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: if you're able to take a photo of your phone

445
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: but you don't have any way of having an app

446
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: on it, this would be a way of sharing that photo.

447
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: So it's definitely an accessibility feature. Sure. Um. In November

448
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: of I believe that the most tweeted message in in

449
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: history thus far, I don't think that anything's beat it yet. No,

450
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: as far as I can tell, the most retweeted message

451
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: of all time came from November two thousand twelve. It

452
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: came from a certain Barack Obama. Yeah, and it said

453
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: four more years and was retweeted more than eight hundred

454
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: thousand times. Um. Yeah, So I mean, as far as

455
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: I can tell, there's been no message retweeted more as

456
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: of the recording of the podcast that we're doing right now.

457
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if if Justin Bieber sends out a one

458
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: word message that says deported first, I'm going to be

459
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: amazed because that shouldn't happen. That's not even possible. And second,

460
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: I could see that getting retweeted a lot, but so

461
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: far that's the top one. So December two thousand twelve,

462
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: Pope Benedict the sixteen launched the first papal Twitter feed

463
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: and twa yeah popes on Twitter Yeah, and Pope Francis

464
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: continues to use it. So the Catholic Church getting hip

465
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: with the uh the social networking. In January, January, to

466
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: be precise, Twitter would launch a vine six second video app. Yeah.

467
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: I remember when this first came out. I was like,

468
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: what six seconds? Who can say anything in six seconds?

469
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: That's that's like only having a character. To be fair, again,

470
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: there's nothing I've ever said that's only taken six seconds.

471
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: So for those of us who are incredibly verbose, it

472
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: is hard to imagine a good use for this service. However,

473
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: that hasn't stopped people from finding really creative ways, like

474
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Speaker 1: I've seen some amazing vin Yes, you think like when

475
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: you're when you're limited to six seconds, it's kind of

476
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: like that whole rule about you know, novels versus short stories.

477
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: Right when you when you know you have a limit

478
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: to how much space you have, every moment counts, and

479
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: if you can get a time just right. You can

480
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: have phenomenal short stories, you know, and it's weird to

481
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: call him a story with only last six seconds. But

482
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: if it, yeah, I think makes you laugh or makes

483
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: you scratch your head or something, if it gets a

484
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: response from you, then that that's pretty impressive at okay.

485
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: So this is another serious example, and we actually talked

486
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: about this in a sister podcast, um the Forward Thinking podcast,

487
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: because on Forward Thinking we were talking about how on

488
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: the stock market, more and more computer algorithms are taking

489
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: up the large majority of trading on the stock market

490
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: and through through high frequency trading, right yeah, and some

491
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: of them are even able to react to stuff that

492
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: happens in the news. And this is an example of

493
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: one of the things that happened in the news that

494
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: was a fake story that made a huge impact. So

495
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: the fake story was planted by the Syrian Electronic Army,

496
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: which hacked into a newswire account official account, the APES

497
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: account Associated Presses, so Big Times and Associated Presses one

498
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: of those services that other news services rely upon to

499
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: get breaking news and then they report it further out.

500
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: So ap s official Twitter feed sends out a message

501
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: that says breaking two explosions in the White House and

502
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 1: Barack Obama is injured. Now the story was completely bogus, right,

503
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: of course, that never happened. But that tweet caused a

504
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: lot of I mean obviously caused a lot of commotion,

505
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: including a serious dip in the stock market to because

506
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: these algorithms saw that and based on that changed their

507
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: their trading methods. Yeah, as dramatically as it turned out. Now. Granted, uh,

508
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: most of the ground that was lost in that that

509
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: commotion would be gained back over the next day or

510
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: so over the course of the following day. Yeah. However,

511
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: it just shows the kind of power that the Twitter

512
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: has that um, that that even in world money markets,

513
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: people had begun using this service to trade information. Yeah,

514
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: pretty phenomenal. Summer of two thousand, that's when we say

515
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: goodbye to a dear old friend. Yes, Twitter officially retired

516
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: the fail whale. Um it didn't really need them so

517
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: much anymore. Um, they had the capacity thing pretty much

518
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: worked out at that point. Uh. The the artist Yeing

519
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: Liu even created a success lockness graphic for the team.

520
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: It was kind of a controversial decision, actually, a lot

521
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: of people kind of missed the fail will and have

522
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: complained about it having gone away, and Chris Fry in response,

523
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: the senior VP of Engineering at Twitter, said an interview

524
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: with Wired in November, and I quote, it had a

525
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: long history and some of our users feel very connected

526
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: to it, But in the end, it did represent a

527
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: time when I don't think we lived up to what

528
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: the world needed Twitter to be. Yeah. So, I mean

529
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: you miss it in the sense that it was kind

530
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: of a cute little thing. That also was anytime the

531
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: fail will popped up, it was almost a marker of

532
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: something socially significant. You knew that something. Yeah, every time

533
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: I saw it, I was like, is it just a

534
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: Thursday or is something crazy going right now? That's that's

535
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: that's fair. Sometimes it wasn't anything socially significant. It was

536
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: just the Twitter had a hiccup. It was just people

537
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: were getting out of work or whatever. But yeah, I

538
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: love that. I love that the fail will. The image

539
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: of the image of failure is a whale, a real creature,

540
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: and the image of success is the luckedest monster, a

541
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: not old creature. I don't know what that says philosophically,

542
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: but I love it. Uh. In September two thousand thirteen,

543
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: a startup called topsy offered a searchable archive of Twitter's

544
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: entire history, which at that time already consisted of more

545
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: than four hundred twenty five billion tweets. So I tried

546
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: this out. Actually before the podcast, I went to topsy

547
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: and I started searching my Twitter feed because you know,

548
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm an egomaniacs. So I did my search. However, um

549
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: mine didn't go back to the earliest tweets. Actually it

550
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: was it was pretty far into my tweets. It was

551
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: maybe a year or two into my tweets. However, that

552
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: being said, you can go to Twitter. If you go

553
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: to Twitter and you choose the settings on the web

554
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: based uh Twitter. If you go to their actual web page,

555
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: use the settings on that you can request an archive

556
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: of all the tweets you have ever sent. They will

557
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: send it to you in a spreadsheet format to actually

558
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: send you a link where you can download it in

559
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: spreadsheet format. And so I was able to do that

560
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: and look back on my Twitter messages. So, yeah, November seven,

561
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: big day for Twitter. Yeah. Yeah, they held their um

562
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: their I p O, their initial public offering. Yeah, so

563
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: their initial offering price was twenty six dollars per share

564
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: when the market actually opened. Because offer price and opening

565
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: price are not the same thing. The opening price was

566
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: at forty five dollars and ten cents per share, not

567
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: not that not bad, although by the end of the

568
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: first day of trading it was at forty four dollars

569
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: ninety cents, so not as high as the opening price.

570
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: Well that's that's not a bad drop at all. No,

571
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: and it was still much higher than the offer price

572
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: of twenty six dollars. So the increase from the offer

573
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: price was seventy three and it raised about one point

574
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: eight billion dollars. Now, keep in mind this is a

575
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: company that was originally started as a five million dollars startup. Yeah,

576
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: that was kind of taken on as a discard almost. Yeah,

577
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: so this is where you have all those investors who

578
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: felt who had back their shares. I can see why

579
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: there's some bad blood about the decision. Yeah, there there

580
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: could be some people who at least feel like I

581
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: wish I had put up more of a fight and

582
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: said no, no, let me support this new thing you

583
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: are doing. I still feel like, like Obvious Corps can't

584
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: be anything other than a terrific joke. I mean, like

585
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: like like Williams just trolled all the investors. I mean,

586
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't know the man, so I'm not gonna I'm

587
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: not gonna say it one way or the other, but

588
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: it is a certainly an appealing idea speaking of some

589
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: of those initial investors and creators. Yeah, December two thousand thirteen,

590
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: Jack Dorsey becomes a member of the board of directors

591
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: for a little company called Disney. You know you have

592
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: made it when Disney has you on their board of directors.

593
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean, like Steve Jobs was on that board for

594
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: a while. I mean, these like some of the top names,

595
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: and it's odd to think, in a way, it's odd

596
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: to think of people for the Silicon Valley field becoming

597
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: members of the board of directors, But Disney's got a

598
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: history with that, so yeah, pretty phenomenal stuff. And then

599
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: getting up to near the present day. We're recording this

600
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: in early February, and on February six, Twitter shares dropped

601
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: twenty eight percent in value after the company revealed that

602
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: it was having trouble increasing the size of its user

603
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: base and that it didn't grow as quickly as in

604
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: previous quarters. So they said that they had only a

605
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: five percent increase in users, and in general, people were

606
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: spending less time looking at their Twitter feeds. So that

607
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: made even though they were profitable, or at least they

608
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: were making more revenue than before. Uh, they this kind

609
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: of decrease in um in in Yeah, and and just

610
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: just the the users experience meant that some shareholders were

611
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: starting to feel a little uneasy about the little bit. Yeah.

612
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: So shares were trading at fifty two dollars and twenty

613
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: three cents after the drop, so, I mean, it's still

614
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: higher than what that initial price was earlier back in

615
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: two but you know, the at the height of Twitter's

616
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: trading it was much more than that. So we're still

617
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: kind of watching what's happening here. I mean, obviously, that

618
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: was one quarter, and things can change quarter to quarters

619
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes behaviors change in unpredictable ways. And then you know,

620
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: the most recent quarter has stuff like the Super Bowl,

621
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Speaker 1: which had a lot of Twitter activity around it. We've

622
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: got we've also got all of the awards seasons that's

623
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: gonna i mean singular awards season, but awards shows right

624
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. We're gonna have things like all the Oscars

625
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: and Emmies and stuff like that all get tweeted all

626
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: the time. So um and then south by southwest. So

627
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: you might say that the end of the year, once

628
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: the year starts winding down, it tends to be quiet anyway,

629
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: unless something major happens in the news. But then the

630
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: big getting of the following year tends to get pick up. Yeah,

631
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: because you start seeing some of those events happened ce

632
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: s happening in January. Like, it's just that that I

633
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: would say the front half of the year tends to

634
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: be more heavily loaded unless the back half of your

635
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: year happens to have a few major revolutions that happened

636
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: throughout the world. Oh certainly. Um, you know, I I

637
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that the general social media sphere

638
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: is going to change a lot over possibly the next year.

639
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's continually in flux as people

640
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: join and and leave social networks. But this is this

641
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: is an interesting time for these for these two giants,

642
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: Twitter and Facebook, which really got their starts kind of

643
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: at the same time and are starting to mature in

644
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: a way that is kind of a turn up to

645
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Speaker 1: that that young base of users that are so attractive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting that I I've I've heard although I don't

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Speaker 1: hearing that the trend was that younger users were trending

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Speaker 1: which is weird because it was just a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago. It was exactly the opposite. Right, The average

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Speaker 1: age of someone using Twitter was in their thirties, and

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Speaker 1: the average age of someone using Facebook was a little younger.

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Speaker 1: And now it's starting to shift as young people move

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Speaker 1: is more adults started saying, Hey, what's this thing all

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Speaker 1: then their kids went, oh, my parents are on here.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear anymore. Well. Yeah, when you

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Speaker 1: think about the younger generation that's coming into using social media,

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Speaker 1: they're following the previous generation. So now it just looks

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Speaker 1: like it's a bunch of old people on that. Why

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Speaker 1: And the reason is we have cookies. Yeah, we make

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Speaker 1: the money so we can buy the cookies. So that's

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Speaker 1: why you want to join Get off my lawn, all right,

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Speaker 1: So that kind of wraps up the Twitter or story

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Speaker 1: part two. I hope you guys enjoyed this. This look

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Speaker 1: we're on Facebook, and we're on this funny little thing

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