WEBVTT - #502 Maggie Freleng with Darrell Ewing

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<v Speaker 1>Derell Ewing was not your average prisoner. You have such

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<v Speaker 1>a deep connection with a lot of celebrities in the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit area.

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<v Speaker 2>All the time, and how does represent a city came

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<v Speaker 2>right from my neighborhood, was my friends and my family.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up in the nineties and early two thousands, going

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<v Speaker 1>to prison was common for many young black men in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>Public schools in the city were starved of resources. There

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<v Speaker 1>weren't many prospects for good jobs, so many young men

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<v Speaker 1>turned to street life or fell victim to it, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the music coming out of Detroit at

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<v Speaker 1>the time was about this. A childhood friend of Durell's

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<v Speaker 1>is now a famous rapper. He goes by forty two

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<v Speaker 1>Doug and has a song called It Gets Deeper about

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<v Speaker 1>the life they grew up in. In the song, he

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<v Speaker 1>gives a shout out to Durell, who he calls Apple,

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<v Speaker 1>saying free app But unlike many of their other friends

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<v Speaker 1>who ended up going to prison, they always believed in

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<v Speaker 1>your innocence.

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<v Speaker 2>They always believed in my innocence. Did look Eezy vezz

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<v Speaker 2>All of them have always ice Wear has always champion

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<v Speaker 2>and kept my name alive.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know as soon as I went to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>May always wrapped about me and my stories Alive put

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<v Speaker 2>me on their album covers Some of Everything.

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<v Speaker 1>At the twenty twenty be Et Awards forty two, Doug

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<v Speaker 1>and Little Baby performed their opening ceremony with matching outfits.

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<v Speaker 1>They had the names of their friends in prison written

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<v Speaker 1>in graffiti all over. Derrell's name was on there too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that was that was lit.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole jail went crazy when they seen him come

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<v Speaker 2>out with that on him and Little Baby and they

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<v Speaker 2>talked about that on the yard for a whole month straight.

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<v Speaker 2>I got letters from all type of other facilities talking

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<v Speaker 2>about that.

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<v Speaker 1>On the back of their jackets it said free them boys.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Darrel. You and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>caught me miss the beat thighs.

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<v Speaker 2>I did fourteen years, two months and fourteen days for

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<v Speaker 2>crime out didn't commit.

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<v Speaker 1>From love of for good. This is wrongful conviction with

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<v Speaker 1>Maggie Freeling today. Deroute Ewing Darote Ewing was born in Detroit, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>November eighteenth, nineteen eighty eight. He's the second child of four.

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<v Speaker 2>Say it is the baby and that's my ride to die.

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<v Speaker 2>My oldest sister is Donald Angela Dawson. We call her Pooh.

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<v Speaker 2>And my middle sister that's right under me is Tiara Dowson.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my ace. Growing up with all three of them,

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<v Speaker 2>they was my protectors, nah though, but it was love

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<v Speaker 2>and I always took care of them and everything was

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually amazing. Having three sisters taught me to

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<v Speaker 2>love more, taught me to be patient, more, carme on women.

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<v Speaker 1>And among those women was his mom, Lasanya Dodson, a

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<v Speaker 1>single parent raising three kids.

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<v Speaker 2>My mama always provided for us. We didn't need eat anything,

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't lack anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. She was truly amazing woman. A hustler.

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<v Speaker 1>Darrell says his mom worked many jobs. How did she

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<v Speaker 1>have time to do all that and raise you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my sister or my Auntie Cheriss, Auntie Reill step in.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom took care of all her sister because all

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<v Speaker 2>her sisters was younger than her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Sonya Dodson is a saint. Let's just put

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<v Speaker 1>that on the record.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She did a rocket a family. She did glue with.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't want to hells it all together.

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<v Speaker 1>We Sonya remembers one day when she was working at Hurts.

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<v Speaker 4>That day was way at the airport. We lived on

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<v Speaker 4>the east side of Detroit, so that's about thirty miles right.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, dang, I ain't got no gas in

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<v Speaker 4>my car and I got to go to work tomorrow. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>Dereal gets his lawn more he go cut grass, he'd

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<v Speaker 4>come back. He say, man, I bought the full up

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<v Speaker 4>your car. I got gas money, full up your car,

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<v Speaker 4>and I also bought you a corn beef sandwich at

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<v Speaker 4>a Pepsi for your lunch. Warm my heart so much

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<v Speaker 4>because he's always been.

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<v Speaker 1>Caring, caring, thoughtful and intelligent. Massanya says, Dereal was so

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<v Speaker 1>smart as a young man. That's how he got his

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<v Speaker 1>nickname Apple for his big brain and head and has.

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<v Speaker 2>Always had his head and always have seen eating apples

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<v Speaker 2>and everything. And one of my friends started calling me

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<v Speaker 2>and my peoples to my family and them all started calling.

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<v Speaker 1>Me that Lasnia tried to teach your kids about work

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<v Speaker 1>ethic from a young age.

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<v Speaker 4>I gave them money for Christmas to let them buy

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<v Speaker 4>their own stuff, because kids got an unrealistic attitude on

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<v Speaker 4>how much stuff costs. So I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I got five hundred dollars to give you. That's all

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<v Speaker 4>I got, so if you could bat Jordans out of

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<v Speaker 4>the five hundred, that's what you do. So I remember

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<v Speaker 4>him going to the mall and coming back and he like,

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<v Speaker 4>well about by the Jordans, they one hundred and seventy,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm only gonna have this much left. So you

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<v Speaker 4>start learning about money and everything, and just always he's

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<v Speaker 4>been so intelligent. And then he started coming back and like,

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<v Speaker 4>hey man, just take care of the kids. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>you are not the father, young man.

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<v Speaker 2>My mama always provided for us. We didn't need anything,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't lack anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. She was truly amazing woman.

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<v Speaker 2>A hustler for real, for real, the first hustler that

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<v Speaker 2>I ever knew made me become a hustle boy.

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<v Speaker 4>My entrepreneur where he got it all at them. He

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<v Speaker 4>metimes ten.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was cutting grass, selling dinners, doing all types

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<v Speaker 2>of different things to make some money, because I always

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<v Speaker 2>seen my mama hustle when he got ten different things

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<v Speaker 2>going on.

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<v Speaker 4>He always had that drive, that drive to want something,

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<v Speaker 4>even as a boy.

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<v Speaker 5>He did.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was a teen, Durrell and his friend started

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<v Speaker 1>a party promotion crew called the Hustle Boys.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like fourteen, fifteen start throwing parties. We used

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<v Speaker 2>to have everyone you know from the city coming to

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<v Speaker 2>aut to our events, and it used to make a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money, making money and having fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a whole new hustle. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you doing any criminal activity.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we weren't doing at that time. We weren't doing

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<v Speaker 2>no criminal attitty. We was just having fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So no drugs, no guns, nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't start. I wasn't doing no drugs, none of that. Now, nope,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder doing any of that. None of my friends

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<v Speaker 2>either then at that time wasn't doing drugs and none

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Because actually we was all from It was.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually a nice, you know, uh, middle class neighborhood that

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<v Speaker 2>I was from.

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<v Speaker 3>My best friends that daddy was a cop, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other ones it's daddy was a preacher.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone parents was doing something in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the parents helped out.

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<v Speaker 4>When it started, it was high school kids and people

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<v Speaker 4>was bringing their kids out. Kids wanted to get out

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<v Speaker 4>and parents let them go on the weekend. So they

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<v Speaker 4>rented little halls and they learned how to do it theyself.

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<v Speaker 4>So we kind of monitored them and would work the

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<v Speaker 4>door and make sure they was okay. I would be

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<v Speaker 4>up there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They started having my mind working the dose and parents

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<v Speaker 2>for actually he collecting the money for me and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I watched them make so much money so fast. Social

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<v Speaker 4>media made a travel fast like they had MySpace back then.

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<v Speaker 1>So who were the knockout boys?

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<v Speaker 5>Were?

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<v Speaker 1>They also like a party promotion?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we were supreme in a party promotion. But they

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<v Speaker 2>tried to do a little something they was doing. They

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<v Speaker 2>had a little parties going, but they used to come

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<v Speaker 2>to our events. We was really the ones. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a party promoters. They was just they had their little

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<v Speaker 2>dancing group and they would come to our parties or

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that sounds like a far cry from like a

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<v Speaker 1>violent gang. They had a dancing group.

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<v Speaker 3>Far cry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm picturing the Dance Off and Step Up one of

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<v Speaker 1>the many movies about dance crews that came out around

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<v Speaker 1>this time.

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's what a lot of people used to do

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<v Speaker 3>back in our time.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't though they would get together in that jit

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Bisco tick all that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Hip roll we was back in our era. It was

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<v Speaker 3>hip rolling.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Derell's crew in his early teens, kids partying

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<v Speaker 1>and hustling.

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit always had a history of cruise to come together

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<v Speaker 2>and just get money. They don't have no affiliation, association

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<v Speaker 2>of gang science, none of that. Did they do, no handshakes,

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<v Speaker 2>none of that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Derell says. It was all pretty harmless. But things were

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<v Speaker 1>about to change. Durell graduated high school early and enrolled

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<v Speaker 1>in Wayne State.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't qualify for fininancial aid.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I had an auntie who I seen had

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<v Speaker 2>three degrees and she wasn't doing too good, and she

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<v Speaker 2>got to stay in school to continue to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that she don't have to pay the student loans back.

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<v Speaker 1>Derel says he was making a ton of money with

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<v Speaker 1>the parties, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I just said, now it's not the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I ain't gonna be buried in debt, and

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<v Speaker 2>it ain't gonna be like my auntie who ain't using

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<v Speaker 2>her degrees.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, go ahead and got through with school. It's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of hard to kill a kid what they can

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<v Speaker 4>and cannot do.

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<v Speaker 1>So Drell dropped out of Wayne State and continued the

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<v Speaker 1>Hustle Boys.

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<v Speaker 2>But at that time we was done with party and

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<v Speaker 2>we were just straight selling drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Drell says, the once innocent party crew was now selling pills.

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<v Speaker 2>OSSI cottins and purpose says lord tabs and things to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, I was living in the

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<v Speaker 2>height of my life as far in the streets, and

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<v Speaker 2>we was making a lot of money. I seen myself

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<v Speaker 2>still at that time transitioning over to the business. I

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<v Speaker 2>was using those that as a means to get in

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<v Speaker 2>the proper position to give me some properties and open me.

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<v Speaker 3>Up my own club. I was on the path to

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<v Speaker 3>buy me at bar.

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<v Speaker 1>But through street life, Derell eventually got to hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with the wrong people and soon all his dreams were

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<v Speaker 1>going to come crashing down. On December tw ninth, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine, two cars pulled up to an intersection

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<v Speaker 1>in East Detroit. A man named JB. Watson was in

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<v Speaker 1>a red van with three other passengers. In the other vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>a turquoise car, were three men. One of the men

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<v Speaker 1>got out of the car when stopped and fired multiple

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<v Speaker 1>shots at the van, killing JB. Watson and injuring his cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>Around the same time, about five miles away, Derell Ewing

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<v Speaker 1>was at a family member's funeral was that something you

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<v Speaker 1>had heard about?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course I heard about the murder. It was all

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<v Speaker 3>on the news and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And what did you think, was that just normal?

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<v Speaker 2>Or in a city Detroit, especially at that time, crayon

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<v Speaker 2>runs rapping, and you know, when some way get killed,

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<v Speaker 2>it is like okay, you know, it's like it's a norm,

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<v Speaker 2>especially back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit had three hundred and sixty four homicides in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine, according to city data. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>the murder rate was actually falling in major cities like Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>New York, and LA but not in Detroit, and the

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<v Speaker 1>chief of police called it the Wild West.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of man going because like when you have

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<v Speaker 2>like a nifty hustle or prince died, the whole world

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole neighborhood crimes, but when a little girl

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<v Speaker 2>get killed down the street, nobody says nothing about it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's how numb.

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<v Speaker 2>We is to crime in the city of Detroit, especially

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<v Speaker 2>back then when murders and stuff occurred, because it was

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<v Speaker 2>just like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Norm.

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<v Speaker 1>The victim, JB. Watson, was a member of the Knockout Boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Durell mentioned they were another party crew like the

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<v Speaker 1>hustle boys. But now police were looking at this as

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<v Speaker 1>a gang rivalry, and Darrell's name came up.

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<v Speaker 3>Being a hustle boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was basically the face you know how they say

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<v Speaker 2>Diddy used to run around and parade Severn rounds for

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<v Speaker 2>Big A and M.

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<v Speaker 3>I was the face of hustle boys, the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was always on the mic hey, come on out,

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<v Speaker 2>the one who was always passing flyers. So anytime somebody

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<v Speaker 2>said something about the hustle boys, they always say app

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<v Speaker 2>in the twins.

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<v Speaker 3>So eventually that's how my name came up.

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<v Speaker 1>After the shooting, a witness came forward, Raymond Love, who

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<v Speaker 1>was at the intersection in his car with his wife

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<v Speaker 1>at the time of the shooting. Although the incident was

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<v Speaker 1>only a few seconds, and Love said he ducked down

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<v Speaker 1>towards his wife. He identified Dareco Cerce as the driver

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<v Speaker 1>of the turquoise car. He said he could see him

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<v Speaker 1>through the rear view mirror. Did you know dia Rico Cearce?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? I knew Derico Cerce. He was an older guy

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<v Speaker 3>from our neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Dareco Cerce was arrested two days later. Love also identified

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<v Speaker 1>Darrell as the man who got out of the car

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<v Speaker 1>and started shooting. Durrell was brought in for questioning.

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<v Speaker 2>When they questioned me, they you know if they told

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<v Speaker 2>me huh, he said, I know he didn't do it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't say who did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do everything more power to make sure you

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<v Speaker 3>go down for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what did you do?

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<v Speaker 3>I said?

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<v Speaker 2>He called my lawyer and he was like, I promise

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<v Speaker 2>you gonna need him. And ever since then, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>when they take me back to the sale that they

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<v Speaker 2>was going to just be a little seventy two hour

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<v Speaker 2>hold and I'll be released. But then nat morning it

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<v Speaker 2>was waking me up talking about Hey, you going down

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<v Speaker 2>to the county.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what, Yeah, You're getting booked on murdered. I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>this can't be rial.

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<v Speaker 2>They joking, you know, I know Ashton cushiering, I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>to jump out to my punk.

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<v Speaker 1>But he wasn't being punked. Ashton Kutcher wasn't waiting in

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<v Speaker 1>the precinct and Darrell was charged with the murder of JB. Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>When did it all become real that it was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was in the courtroom and people walked in

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<v Speaker 2>the Ring and Love and Jenday Love and they talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it was me.

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<v Speaker 3>That was when it was came real.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost lost my mind, telling them look at me,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, look at me, and just like hold on.

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<v Speaker 3>Be quiet, and they can't be talking about me.

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<v Speaker 1>Derell went to trial almost a year later, in October

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten. He and Direco Cercy were tried together by

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<v Speaker 1>Assistant Prosecuting Attorney camp Town. No gun was ever recovered

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<v Speaker 1>from the crime scene. The only evidence tying Derell to

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<v Speaker 1>the crime was the eyewitness testimony of Raymond Love. He

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<v Speaker 1>testified that inside the Turqoids vehicle he'd seen Direco Cerce

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<v Speaker 1>driving and two other men. Love said once at the intersection,

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<v Speaker 1>Drell got out of the vehicle with a handgun, approached

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<v Speaker 1>the van and started firing at the rear. It's unclear

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<v Speaker 1>if they tried to find the third man allegedly in

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle. Camp Town said this was a gang retaliation,

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<v Speaker 1>that the Hustle Boys had beef with the Knockout Boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Would a beef with the Knockout Boys wind up in

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<v Speaker 1>a murder, in a shooting, It.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't a beef. Seat they get this case all twisted.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only the pain and narrative and help paint a

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<v Speaker 2>theory to sell it to the jury.

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<v Speaker 1>To be clear, federal court records cites some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>beef going on between the Hustle Boys and the Knockout Boys. However,

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<v Speaker 1>no one ever testified that Darrell had anything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with those fights. Darrell also says he had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>who JB. Watson was.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, I knew of some KOB members, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know this guy. I never had an issue with this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I never had an issue with none of the KOB members.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never been in the same room with him. When

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<v Speaker 3>he said his name, I'm like, wow, I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Durell sat through an entire trial listening to

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<v Speaker 1>testimony about him being in a gang and beefing with

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<v Speaker 1>the Knockout Boys.

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<v Speaker 4>When you're a black young man, especially black people, but

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<v Speaker 4>black young men especially anything they do dance groups, singing groups,

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<v Speaker 4>you could end up being a gang.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom, La Sonya.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, when they stormed the White House, they called them

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<v Speaker 4>a group, but they called my son a gang. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's the burbigeh that they use when they speak on you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, La Sonya knew her son couldn't have committed

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<v Speaker 1>this murder. She was with him at the time of

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<v Speaker 1>the killing and testified in Durrell's defense. How many people

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<v Speaker 1>vouched for your alibi?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I could have called two three hundred people and said there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, their own witnesses placed me at the hall

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<v Speaker 2>we called sis and I believe five or six five

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<v Speaker 2>or sits five five.

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<v Speaker 1>They all said Durell had been at Bardon Hall for

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<v Speaker 1>a gathering following a family member's funeral. He was there

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<v Speaker 1>the entire time the shooting had taken place. Then a bombshell,

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<v Speaker 1>a man took the stand saying it really hadn't been Durrell,

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<v Speaker 1>and he knew who the real shooter was because he

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Richardson was there.

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<v Speaker 3>Christopher Richardson when William Bill and Tyree.

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<v Speaker 1>Washington, they had gone on a carjacking spree.

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<v Speaker 2>When they all got locked up, they started to tell

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<v Speaker 2>on each other and they wind up that William Bill's cousin,

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<v Speaker 2>and Christopher Richardson said, hey, man, y'all got the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>people locked up Darrell Ewing and Derico ser She didn't

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<v Speaker 2>commit that crime. My Cody Finish and cousin is actually

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<v Speaker 2>wants to responsible William Bill and Tyree Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Richardson said Tyree Washington had been the shooter. And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about Richardson is that he was also a trusted

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<v Speaker 1>confidential informant for the FBI. He had testified in front

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<v Speaker 1>of four federal grand juries before, so the FBI trusted

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<v Speaker 1>him and brought this testimony to Assistant prosecuting Attorney Cam Towns.

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<v Speaker 1>They tried to tell her she was getting it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyree Washington was even willing to come to trial and testify, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It turns out that Cam Towns had told him that

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't need him and that she was want to

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<v Speaker 2>use him, and if she had, she wanted You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when they locked in on their position, they hate the

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<v Speaker 2>admit that they screwed up, so they kept pressing in

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<v Speaker 2>the gas and I guess they wanted to just play

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<v Speaker 2>out in the courtroom because it's not about guilt or innocence,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they just be trying to close the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyree Washington did not testify a trial, but the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>agents and Christopher Richardson were allowed to share their testimony,

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<v Speaker 1>all saying Darrell and do Rico had not been the

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<v Speaker 1>ones who killed JB. Watson. By the end of trial,

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecution's case seemed in shambles. Darrell Ewing had an alibi,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no physical evidence linking him to the crime,

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<v Speaker 1>and the jury was aware that someone else had confessed.

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<v Speaker 1>Drellte was feeling pretty good about the outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>We had the federal agents coming to testify, and they

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<v Speaker 2>bringing their top performer, Christopher Wich. Jennalo was telling on

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<v Speaker 2>his own cousin. So when you got that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm secure.

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<v Speaker 1>During deliberation, the jury was deadlocked when they returned. Instead

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<v Speaker 1>of ordering a mistrial, the trial judge Carol Youngblood responded

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<v Speaker 1>by ordering them to continue deliberating. When the jury came back,

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<v Speaker 1>Durell was convicted a first degree murder and later sentenced

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<v Speaker 1>to life in prison without parole. La Sonya was heartbroken.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh god, it was so horrifying. I mean, my body

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<v Speaker 4>took a hole, like I went into my minstrel stopped

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<v Speaker 4>when they convicted him. Like literally, how old were you?

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<v Speaker 4>I was forty four, and I was so sick, Like

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<v Speaker 4>it really really really took a hole on us, like

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<v Speaker 4>it was very high. They almost had to drag us

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<v Speaker 4>out of the out of the courthouse because we were

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<v Speaker 4>just we couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Durrell felt it too, but didn't have much time to wallow.

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<v Speaker 1>Very soon after trial, another bombshell would drop. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as Derell got to prison, he started trying to prove

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<v Speaker 1>his innocence. When you go out to prison, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two years old, why didn't you just start hustling

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<v Speaker 1>in there, dealing drugs in there? And maybe you did.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't just say so, but you did more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't just say prison is now my life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you embrace to start to hustle in

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<v Speaker 2>prison and everything, it's certain things to come with that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a certain focus that it keep you distracted.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of gas that hustle inside of prison,

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<v Speaker 2>but they'd be consumed with that because that's a daily

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you can have to focus on, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't give you time to focus on your case.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody that I ever knew that ever get out of prison,

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<v Speaker 2>they were extremely dedicated to nothing but their case.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I was on.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was always I spent all my time in

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<v Speaker 2>the law library and reading law books.

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<v Speaker 1>Darrell actually learned the laws so well he started practicing law.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only do I fight for me, I fight for others,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know I fight for others on behalf of others.

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<v Speaker 1>Darrell became a paralegal in prison, helping others file legal

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<v Speaker 1>documents and fight their cases for free.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone that I have got out recently, I didn't give

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<v Speaker 2>charge of a dollar in their home.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Derell was also trying to get himself home, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had a lot to work with in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to prove his innocence. After trial, two specific things happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyree Washington, who the FBI and FORMAT pointed to, formally confessed.

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<v Speaker 2>He told the Michigan State Police undermandarized confession that he

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<v Speaker 2>was responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>Years later, Tyree Washington would also talk to private investigator

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Lewis, and I got a hold of that recording.

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<v Speaker 3>We just asked you some questions. We'll get right down to.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you about the December twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine, fatal shooting of JB.

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<v Speaker 3>Watson. Are you familiar with that incident?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I am.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you know about it?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I know everything about it was I was there

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<v Speaker 5>and I actually was the shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that answer Okay, where did this take place?

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<v Speaker 5>All van Dykin Harper.

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<v Speaker 1>The second thing that happened was a juror came forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Kathleen Barnes was great, the most amazing woman I ever seen,

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<v Speaker 2>came forward and told the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Kathleen Burns said that she was the holdout for a

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty verdict, but she changed her mind after two

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<v Speaker 1>jurors came up with extra information. One of the jurors,

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<v Speaker 1>Karen James, had googled about gangs and gang hierarchy.

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<v Speaker 2>She valeted the court orders, the court orders you put

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<v Speaker 2>when you are the jurors every time to not to

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<v Speaker 2>consider anything outside this corporal you go home, don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this even with your husband.

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<v Speaker 3>Please don't look on anything social media and that about

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<v Speaker 3>the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But Karen James did. She found articles about gangs having

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<v Speaker 1>a pecking order, and she told the other jurors she

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<v Speaker 1>believed Durell was at the top. She surmised that Tyree

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<v Speaker 1>Washington was at the bottom, so the Hustle boys sacrificed

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<v Speaker 1>him instead of Durell. They set up Tyree for the murder.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't even the prosecuted theory. Let's make that clear.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something that the juror summarized in her mad

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<v Speaker 2>Karen James, another black woman, hurt me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Another juror, Michelle Chesney, found Drell's Facebook and on it

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<v Speaker 1>there were photos of him with guns.

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<v Speaker 2>One day, it was my man home girl birthday and

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<v Speaker 2>she came over and we had a few guns out,

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, oh, let's take some pictures with these guns.

0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 2>And we took some pictures with them guns that she

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 2>put on our social media. And from that the juries testified.

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<v Speaker 2>This ain't my words. This was testified on oath that

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 2>they said, hey, if he didn't do this, he did

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<v Speaker 2>something else just because I had a gun. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>just because I'm a black man, a black young guy

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 2>with a gun. Because if you see a Caucasian man

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 2>with a gun, especially the ones we had, you're gonna

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 2>say he doing hunting, you know what I mean.

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 1>All this information made Kathleen Burns change her vote to guilty.

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Years later, in an evidentiary hearing in twenty nineteen, she

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.880
<v Speaker 1>testified that this trial haunted her, that she kept wondering

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>if she'd done something terribly wrong. Once the jury misconduct

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>came to light, Darrell was able to file post conviction relief. Meanwhile,

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 1>out on the streets, Lasaanya and Derell's family were also

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>putting in the work.

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<v Speaker 4>We wouldn't stop protesting and making the ways and making

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 4>sure that we did everything we possibly could do to

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<v Speaker 4>get him out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 2>My family, then petitions, my family, and then protests.

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Is my family that did town halls? They did? They

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 3>didn't done something. Everything they have it.

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 2>One time we was applotting to strategizing to do a

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 2>protest in front of kim Worthy's house.

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Kim Worthy is the prosecutor in Wayne County, which covers Detroit, Lasnia.

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Says she wasn't going to let the system treat another

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 1>young black man as disposable.

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 4>When you throw somebody away and nobody ever say nothing

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 4>out of sight, out of mind, you know, you kind

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 4>of don't worry. But if you keep seeing us on

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 4>social media, you're seeing us on the news, that's different.

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 4>We knew he didn't do it. So when we knew

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 4>he didn't do it, there's no way. The love that

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 4>we have for him and the love that we have

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 4>as a family, this is what I think people supposed

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 4>to do. You know, I didn't see it no other

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.439
<v Speaker 4>way until a young man told me that he was

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 4>locked up for eight years and it took his mother

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 4>two years to send him some pictures. He said, you

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 4>don't even know what you did. He said, my mom

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 4>took two years just to send me a couple of pictures.

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 4>And I kept asking for him and it took her

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:15.919
<v Speaker 4>two years to get him to me.

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>But Lasnya wasn't that mom. She stuck with Durell, and

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>in true hustler fashion, she even started a transportation business.

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:29.239
<v Speaker 4>Man, I've been doing everything like I am. I we

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 4>started a transportation company. When Drell was in prison. He

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 4>started calling me to about mine. Some such Grandma want

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 4>to ride with you, some such want to ride with you.

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, shoot, we finished out a transportation company and

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 4>get a vans and come up there. So then he

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 4>would do work that in the inside and we'd come

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 4>up there and pick up people. And we called the

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 4>Stay Connected Transportation. So really we just made the best

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 4>out of a bad situation.

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>That support meant everything to Durell.

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 3>It kept me fighting.

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 2>You know me, when you know you got a support system,

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I gotta be strong for them and they strong for me.

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 3>It was a battery in my bed.

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>One of those times was in twenty thirteen, the Court

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>of Appeals upheld his conviction, saying the jury misconduct was

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 1>quote harmless error. But since then, multiple federal and state

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>judges ordered a new trial for Durell and de Rico,

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>finding that their constitutional right to a fair trial was

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>indeed violated by juror misconduct. In twenty seventeen, a judge

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.479
<v Speaker 1>struck down the murder conviction and ordered release or a

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 1>new trial within ninety days. But despite the order, Durell

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 1>stayed in prison, and then the pandemic hit. When I

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>first spoke to Durell in twenty twenty, he had actually

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>just recovered from the illness. How long were you sick for?

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.120
<v Speaker 3>I was thankful about thirty three days, Oh my gosh.

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 5>And then I couldn't nail the taste even half of

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 5>that and fealed to it. I feel got like plammed

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 5>to be in.

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 3>My system and my launs.

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 5>I'll be trying to go out and run and work

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 5>out and keep myself have a job. But it's just

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 5>all type of aspects of this COVID thing. And in

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 5>Michigan they had yet to release any prisoners.

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Lake Lynd was one of the worst prisons in Michigan,

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>where at least twenty four prisoners died from COVID, but

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Darrell would eventually get a break. After years of fighting,

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>he got a retrial date set for March twenty twenty four.

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 5>Howell.

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>On December one, twenty twenty three, thirty five year old

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Durell Ewing went in front of Judge Keefer Cox for

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>emotions hearing. Durell stood in the courtroom in his green

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>jailhouse uniform, representing himself with some help from outside council,

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and Derell went for it, even criticizing the judge for

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>having just come out of a job at the Wayne

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>County Prosecutor's office.

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 6>But the thing is run, the thing is, and respectfully,

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 6>I just learned that you just came out to prosecuted

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 6>office a couple of months ago, and did your friends

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 6>with Ken Wordy and did your friends with John watch

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 6>the toll? So how are you even sitting on my case?

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 4>I just learned this, drun. How are you even that's actual?

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 3>White?

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>The press, friends and family were in the audience.

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 6>Did you remove yourself from this case because you this

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 6>is a fact. Anyone in the crowd here's the mumbling

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 6>and hearing some speaking in the background.

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 4>The scariest thing I ever seen. I was just so scared,

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 4>so nervous. I didn't even know what I was going

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 4>to do if they wouldn't have got this right. But

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, as I watched him, like he did such

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 4>an awesome job. We almost give him standing ovations, and

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 4>it was it was something to see, like you had

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 4>to be there.

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>As Durell prepared for his retrial, District Attorney Kim Worthy's

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>office was confronted with several challenges. Not only did they

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>have to account for jury misconduct, they also did not

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>provide Durell with evidence he'd requested for over a year,

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and they were short on witnesses.

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Because by this time, Raymond Love he got to be

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 2>at home somewhere like, hey man, I don't want nothing

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>to do with that case. This case is everywhere don

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 2>and got this innocent man locked up. He didne finally

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>came to the realization.

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>And that was one of their key That was their

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>key witness.

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 3>That's their key witness.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>On March twenty fifth, twenty four, after considering Durell's case

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that the police and prosecution still had

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>not made their evidence available to Durell. Judge Cox made

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>a decision just miss the case.

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 3>This is egregious due process violation. So for.

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>All the reasons, plays down the records have dismissed the cases.

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Don't time to keep it under control.

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 4>If there's gonna be an outburst taken in a hallway leave.

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Derell's family and friends tried to contain their emotion, but

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>after years of fighting, when the courtroom doors opened, you

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>heard the sound of relief. That day Darrell walked out

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>of Wayne County Jail a freeman.

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 4>I just feel like since he came home, I almost

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 4>have relaxed. Finally. I used to start at eight o'clock

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 4>in the morning. I don't want to do eight no more.

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm like, oh God, can we do ting? You know?

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Today Lasagnya is surrounded by her entire family and owns

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>her own beauty salon. But a decade ago she lost

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>her home, her four one K and the good years

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>of her life advocating for her son's innocence.

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 4>It was a lot. It's a lot to go through.

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 4>But you know, I tell him all the time, only

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 4>the strong subbab.

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>And Darrell takes none of it.

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 3>For granted, I was one of the blessed ones.

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people in prison that need help

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 2>and don't have little ones that support them. But the

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>difference is when you do TECH, when you do time

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 2>for a crime that not only you know you didn't do,

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>your family you know you didn't do They're always going

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 2>to be behind.

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 3>You one hundred percent, you know.

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>So what's next?

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, right now I'm working to put into the appeal

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 2>that they just filed.

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>DA kim Worthy is appealing Judge Cox's decision. If she

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>wins jury will have to go to trial, but he

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>says he's not worried. He thinks the evidence in her

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>case is too weak. And on the flip side, if.

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 3>Kim Worthy Lewis's appeal is over and I'm a suit

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 3>of shit out or ass.

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Does kim Worthy have the power to not fight this?

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Does she have the power to say it's over?

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Of course she do.

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 2>She decided this moment's enough, We're gonna dismiss the appeal

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>and let this be got back one. But at the

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>end of the day, they got they thinking dollars now

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 2>over justice. They got forty people that just got desonerated.

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>One wrongfully convicted man was recently awarded ten million dollars

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>in damages.

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 3>You know they think in money now in bankruptcy.

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Darrell says he wants people to understand that public officials

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>like Da kim Worthy are elected.

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>We as a people only get involved in the elections,

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 2>in the voting process when it's a national thing. We

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>in a frenzy about Donald Trump, but we don't deal

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>with the real people that directly affect us locally. Be

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 2>intentional on who you vote for and put in not

0:33:56.640 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 2>only a seats of power in a presidential but you

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 2>a local prosecutor and judges seeks. Because we be crying

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 2>about injustice, but we put these judges in there who

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 2>don't get a damn about the law.

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Since he's been out, Durrell re enrolled in Wayne State

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>with a full scholarship to study law man.

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 4>When his first day down in law school, we all

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 4>followed him down there. I said, we're gonna get him

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 4>kicked out on his first day. We taking pictures, We

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 4>got camera crews with us. We like so excited about

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 4>everything that he do, Like the whole family is excited.

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 4>And that's a beautiful thing because this is like our moment,

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 4>our happy time that we waited on, that we didn't

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 4>see it was we was in the dark and now

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 4>it's just light and we're just happy. We want to

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 4>see everything evolved.

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>And she says she is always grateful to the woman

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 1>who had the courage to come forward and make this

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>all possible.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 4>Kathleen Burns had a heart to speak up, and a

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 4>couple of times when she spoke, she said, I just

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 4>hope he makes his mother is proud as she thinks

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 4>he is. And I'm like, oh he is. And every

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 4>time he doing something I'll get today, I just be like,

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.760
<v Speaker 4>I hope she watching them.

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Not only is Durrell in law school, but he's working

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>in the community doing outreach.

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I work hand in hand with our mayor and police

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>chief out here intervening in community violence, keeping the.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Crime right down daily, winning schools.

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Were going there, We do mentoring, were working with the

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Turnative School right now, real heavy. These are the most

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 2>risks and trouble making kids, you know, but when we

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>get in there, all they need is love and attention.

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 2>Some of these parents are struggling, don't have no job,

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>on welfare, struggling to make it.

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Some of them kids don't have no food.

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 2>We got to turn around and get them money to

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 2>go home and get them get their mother and them

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 2>fell theirfrigerators up, you know, just being there any way

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 2>we can, showing offering them resources.

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 3>That's what I spend my time doing. I ain't in

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 3>school working on a case.

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>He also spends time catching up with the family that

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 1>was there for him for nearly fifteen years.

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 4>We just love just getting together. I could just have

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 4>him here at the house, like seeing him with my

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:20.919
<v Speaker 4>grandkids now and just they love him to death. We

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<v Speaker 4>love him like we loved him, and he love us.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hope that Drell gives you some.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I'm waiting on my little grandson coming to look.

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<v Speaker 4>I just keep seeing Grasslam. But I take a granddaughter too.

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<v Speaker 1>But Drell says he's got time first, more hustle.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a book coming out of the real stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and the most saying I'm working on my documentary.

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<v Speaker 3>Be on the lookout for it. I got work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I wanted to ask you about the book.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a copy that you sent me years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there more to it now?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? I didn't reassed and re edited. I'm gonna send

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<v Speaker 3>it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well when you're super famous. I now have an original manuscripts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got the original manuscript.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Darrell the whole time I've known him, always on

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<v Speaker 1>the move, an array of light even in his darkest times.

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