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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna get right into it.

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Speaker 3: The criminal justice system in California and more specifically here

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Speaker 3: in Los Angeles County is in a shambles, and we

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Speaker 3: have a couple of updates today. Later on the show,

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Speaker 3: we'll be talking about a judge. It says, oh, let's

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Speaker 3: get rid of bail. Yeah, the no bail requirement as

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Speaker 3: back leg I was during the pandemic. That's nice for

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Speaker 3: the crime rates. But we're gonna start with of course,

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Speaker 3: the story has.

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Speaker 2: To come from the East Coast.

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Speaker 3: The New York Post woke La DA George Gascon has

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Speaker 3: ten thousand case backlog, a toxic attitude which is driving

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Speaker 3: staff away. This is according to their sources, some who

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Speaker 3: went on the record, some who did not. One former

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Speaker 3: Deputy DA told the Post, in my career as a prosecutor,

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Speaker 3: I've never had victims families actually hate us until I

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Speaker 3: came into this office. Can you imagine it's so bad?

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of open positions. People aren't taking these jobs.

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Speaker 3: There's so many cases backed up that have to be filed.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk now to one of the candidates

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Speaker 3: would like to replace George Gascon is DA in next

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Speaker 3: year's election. Los Angeles County Deputy DA. John McKinney's coming

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Speaker 3: on the show to give his thoughts about this story.

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Speaker 4: John, How are you good afternoon, Johnny can Thanks for

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Speaker 1: Ten thousand case backlog. Is anybody doing any work there?

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Speaker 4: You know, we are doing work. We're working twice as

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Speaker 4: hard as we did before. And I know that's probably

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Speaker 4: surprising to people, but it's because George Gaston can't keep

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Speaker 4: the office at its appropriate staffing levels. No one wants

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Speaker 4: to work for him. The people who have been here

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Speaker 4: It's it's just a very sad scene here in the

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Speaker 3: I thought he was replacing them all with public defenders.

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Speaker 3: Is that not happening at the rate he needs it

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Speaker 4: Well, even the public defenders don't want to work for him.

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Speaker 4: But yes, he has matched a few of them over

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Speaker 1: What makes the work environment so oppressive? What is he doing?

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Speaker 1: What are the policies we know about the policies that

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Speaker 1: the prosecutors here that makes it so difficult for them

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Speaker 4: You know, people decide to go into public service for

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Speaker 4: deeply personal reasons. Oftentimes people don't choose this work because

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Speaker 4: they want to get rich and make a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: So the people who come to work for the DA's

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Speaker 4: And so they join the DA's office. Why not the

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Speaker 4: But we have a DA now who's changed the mission.

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Speaker 4: The mission is no longer to go into court and

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Speaker 4: The mission now is to go into court and implement

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Speaker 1: All the quotes in this news story are very strong.

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Speaker 1: Eric Saddal, the vice president of the Deputy District Attorney's Association,

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Speaker 4: Well, it is. You know, I've been with the office

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Speaker 3: On top of that, you know, is it possible John,

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Speaker 3: they don't necessarily want that either, because the idea now

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And you know, I'm one of a growing number

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Speaker 4: reporting today about this ten thousand case backlogs that is

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Speaker 4: and it's outrageous, but yet another example of George Gascon's

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Speaker 3: Much but a lot Does that mean for public safety

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Speaker 4: Well, nothing good, I can tell you. When those cases

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Speaker 4: because they're finding no excuse for why we are not

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Speaker 1: The former deputy DA who said that made that quote,

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Speaker 1: He said, we're hated by all the victims because of

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Speaker 1: focused on justice for black and brown defendants, but the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well here's my response. And you know, every DA

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Speaker 3: What about the part of the comment, John, and you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, victims are invisible to George Gascon, and quite frankly,

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Speaker 4: and now it's just the opposite. Everything is defendants at centric.

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Speaker 4: Take African American women for example. African American women make

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Speaker 4: up four percent of LA City's population, four percent, yet

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Speaker 4: That is an important stat That is something that any

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Speaker 4: He should be two hundred lawyers above staffing to try

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Speaker 2: What is this about? That statistic is stunning, So what

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Speaker 4: Well, it's look, I don't get.

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Speaker 2: The point of all this.

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Speaker 4: You know, you have a lot of non serious people

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Speaker 4: I've tried to explain Georgia Gaskan, but trying to explain

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned the city Council, the Board of Supervisors,

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Speaker 3: to what they call john alternatives to incarceration diversion programs. Basically,

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that there is a growing movement of

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Speaker 4: I think there are people in our government who are

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Speaker 3: John, thank you so much for talking to us again.

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Speaker 3: I know we'll be talking a lot. It is McKinney

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Speaker 3: DA in twenty four Thanks for coming on again.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, John, Thank you. Ken.

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Speaker 1: Four percent of La County made up of black women.

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Speaker 3: That should be all you need to know. That tells

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Speaker 1: So Gascone is a screaming racist and he uses racism

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Speaker 1: what kind of racism is in your soul? What kind

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Speaker 3: And all your sympathy lies with the criminal? What can

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Speaker 2: And that's so sick.

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Speaker 1: But it's like John McKinney said, he goes, you try

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Speaker 3: Them would really bring us back to where we have

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing. I mean, somebody put us

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Speaker 1: The only way his polling could go up, and even

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Speaker 2: But good.

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Speaker 1: It's good that there's going to be a lot of

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of focus of votes next year we

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Speaker 3: I don't think she's made a lot of public appearances

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Speaker 2: She had the best legs I ever saw in a

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Speaker 3: Seriously, and she wore the short skirts, so he's of

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Speaker 3: I watched that special did you see on HBO about

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Speaker 3: her life? It's like an hour or two. I watched

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen I've seen several of documentaries on her

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Speaker 2: It was really interesting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what time she died today, but I

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Speaker 2: But you know, she wasn't selling any records for quite

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking how rare it was at forty

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Speaker 3: Just her voice so powerful, so unique and powerful, you

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Speaker 2: All Right, we got war coming up.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna give you a update when we return, and

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Speaker 3: it's an interesting one. Remember the big story the other

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Speaker 2: There's an interesting update on that story.

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Speaker 1: False flag John Coe belt false also false Nazi flag baby.

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Speaker 1: And also we have Ron DeSantis officially running for president.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Moist line is coming back around day

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk more in a moment, but coming up

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Speaker 3: at three pm Art time, six pm Eastern. That's when

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Speaker 3: Ron dessentis the Florida governor, sits down with Elon Musk

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Speaker 2: He did file the paperwork.

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Speaker 3: He is now officially in the twenty twenty four race,

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Speaker 3: and we'll talk about that in a moment. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to update you now on the guy that well, he

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Speaker 3: Candula and Johnny now understand he is Indian Indian, that is,

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Speaker 3: and he's not a US.

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Speaker 2: Citizen, not not.

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Speaker 3: Not an ot is he here legally they are not

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Speaker 1: A non citizen trying to ram his you home to

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Speaker 2: Well, that will get him in further trouble for deportation,

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Speaker 2: will it not? Yes, I don't know these days.

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Speaker 1: Now he may have legal paperwork to be here. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that, but still just not a US a

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Speaker 3: Anyway, he did appear in court today. But here is

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Speaker 3: the bit of the bombshell. Charges have been markedly dropped.

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Speaker 3: We're now down to really the term they're using is

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Speaker 2: That's what it all was.

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Speaker 3: Though all dropped one single count of depredation of property

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Speaker 3: Depredation I don't even know what that means. Well, I

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Speaker 3: What's that, Well, usually he ran a truck trying to

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Speaker 1: That's all kinds of terrible federal felonies, right, and then

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Speaker 3: People are smelling a false flag. John, I'm just telling

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Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't make sense based on I mean, you

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Speaker 2: Well, here it is.

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Speaker 3: He took a one way flight from Saint Louis to Washington,

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Speaker 3: His gold get to the White House, cease power, and

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Speaker 2: In his way.

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Speaker 1: He can't lay out the threat any clearer.

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Speaker 3: He said that he was successful because he sent a message.

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Speaker 3: He said, when he gets arrested, his book would get

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Speaker 3: A green book in which he had written his plans

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Speaker 2: So again, he's nineteen. Why would you let this guy go? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but nineteen is a legal adult. He might be let go.

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Speaker 3: Those charges don't sound serious. They don't like a vandalism.

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Speaker 3: There's nobody in prison for depredation. He of course went

446
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Speaker 3: on to praise Nazism, great history. He said he likes authoritative,

447
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Speaker 3: their authoritative nature, eugenics he likes, and the idea of

448
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Speaker 3: one world order. When asked if he looks up to

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Speaker 3: any leaders, he answered, well, yes, Hitler, he.

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Speaker 2: Was strong.

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Speaker 1: And this guy go he brought a Nazi flag with him.

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Speaker 3: The only thing in the media can't run with is

453
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Speaker 3: that he wasn't a young white kid because he's Indian,

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Speaker 3: and this is very strange a little.

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Speaker 1: Does that have something to do with the charges being dropped,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, or the muted coverage I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's not really a lot being written on this story.

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Speaker 3: But obviously because he didn't get into the White House,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't make it as big on that.

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Speaker 1: I smell a false flag too. There's something wrong here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but there's something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What would be the point of the false flag is

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Speaker 1: what I can't find. I don't know, but yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I don't understand this. This makes no sense on its face,

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Speaker 1: So what's what's the reason? What's the story? And if

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Speaker 1: there is a good reason, then why don't they tell us?

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Speaker 3: They talked to Anaket Sharma, who attended high school with Candula,

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Speaker 3: and he said, I couldn't believe it. For the first

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Speaker 3: five or ten minutes. I'd never expected him to be

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Speaker 3: doing something like this. I never thought a date like

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Speaker 3: this would come. But he did worry about his friend's

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Speaker 3: mental state of though I don't have any elaboration on

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Speaker 3: that was or anything he noticed recently about this Missouri guy.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we mentioned that Ron DeSantis is officially in

476
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Speaker 3: the race to be president of the United States. He

477
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Speaker 3: of course enters the Republican presidential primary field at three

478
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Speaker 3: o'clock our time. That will be him on Twitter with

479
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Speaker 3: Elon Musk to talk about his campaign. He's the forty

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Speaker 3: four year old governor of Florida. And of course I'm

481
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Speaker 3: reading several media reviews that he's too stiff, that he

482
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Speaker 3: looks I was reading one in Politico. He always looks

483
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Speaker 3: like he's uncomfortable in the room, and he hates the public.

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Speaker 1: I like him already. Yeah, that's me. What's wrong with that?

485
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Speaker 1: What's wrong with being uncomfortable and hating the public?

486
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Speaker 3: Others would portray him as the right guy on policies

487
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Speaker 3: along with Trump, but he wouldn't have Trump's personality, abrasiveness,

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Speaker 3: he mailed card behavior.

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Speaker 1: He may be stiff, but he's going to be running

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Speaker 1: against an actual stiff.

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Speaker 2: H like Biden. Biden if he wins the nomination.

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Speaker 3: Uh, he was hotter six months ago in the polls.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of dropped down a bit in the polling,

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Speaker 3: and of course, yeah, one re election as governor of

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Speaker 3: Florida that really boosted his status once.

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Speaker 1: Trump got indicted in this upside down inverted world.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because they rallied.

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Speaker 1: To his Trump's defense and said, that's who I'm voting

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Speaker 1: for for the nomination, right right.

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Speaker 3: And that's the problem for DeSantis. He has to get

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Speaker 3: past Trump first. So I don't know Trump. Trump's got

502
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Speaker 3: a cult going here. The thing is that you get

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Speaker 3: past Trump and he's one on one with Biden. A

504
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Speaker 3: lot of people who don't like Trump, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I guess these independents might side with him. But if

506
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Speaker 3: it's Trump against Biden, I don't know what that's going

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Speaker 3: to happen. That's the problem for the Republicans in this race.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Desanta's is a much better bet to

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Speaker 1: be Biden than Trump.

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Speaker 3: So now we have DeSantis, Trump, Dicky Haley, Tim Scott. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I forgot about Asa Hutchinson, John your friend. And this

512
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Speaker 3: is Vivek Ramaswami. I understand it's kind of a wild card.

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Speaker 3: It's a biotech entrepreneur, the VEK.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've ran of course, Mike Pence might be he's

515
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Speaker 1: actually very entertaining.

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Speaker 2: I heard it can be. He can be really local, Yeah,

517
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Speaker 2: and amusing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that much about him and be able

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Speaker 1: to look up more. But you know that's that's the

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Speaker 1: line up right now, and I don't know when the first.

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Speaker 1: And on the Democrat side, we have a president who

522
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Speaker 1: is deceased and a vice president who's permanently stoned.

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Speaker 2: And we have Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Don't forget him.

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Speaker 2: It's insane. We got more coming up.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Ken k IF I AM six forty live everywhere

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Speaker 1: I heard radio app We're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna have a great year and a half coming up.

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Speaker 5: Mark, you're listening to John and Ken on demand from

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Speaker 5: kf I AM six forty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just announced that Ron DeSantis is officially in

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Speaker 3: the race for president. The Florida governor filed the pay work.

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Speaker 3: He'll do his Twitter appearance with Elon Musk in the

533
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Speaker 3: three o'clock hour here on the West coast six o'clock

534
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: Eastern from Florida at some big hotel. Trump has already

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Speaker 3: put out some things. Of course, he's calling him Ron

536
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Speaker 3: d sanctus. It was dys sanctimonious Desanctus. Ron da sanctimonious

537
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Speaker 3: was his Yeah, this time it was just Ron Desanctus.

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Speaker 3: He said that Ronse needs a personality transplant.

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Speaker 2: To best of my knowledge, they're not available yet.

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Speaker 3: He's a very disloyal person, I guess because Trump believes

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Speaker 3: that he's the one that made Descentus what he is. No,

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Speaker 3: Trump was raving about him and helped get him elected

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Speaker 3: back in two thousand and eighteen. I think because uh,

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Speaker 3: DeSantis only won by a tiny, tiny sliver and.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's right Trump, and then he got re

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Speaker 2: elected last year. That's right. But he did very well.

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Speaker 2: Last year.

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Speaker 1: Trump was president and campaigned for DeSantis, so yeah, he

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Speaker 1: probably pushed him over the edge.

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Speaker 3: But by the way, DeSantis studied at Yale, where he

551
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Speaker 3: played baseball. He would go to Harvard Law School, become

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Speaker 3: a Navy judge advocate general officer. That took him to

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Speaker 3: a rock and Guantanamo Bay detention camp. He ran for

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Speaker 3: Congress in twenty twelve one an Orlando area district, became

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Speaker 3: a founding member of the far right Freedom Caucus on

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Speaker 3: Capitol Hill, and then of course he ran for governor

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Speaker 3: of Floridas. John said in twenty eighteen with Trump's help,

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Speaker 3: because Trump was president at the time, and then he

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Speaker 3: got reelected overwhelmingly in twenty twenty two. And of course

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Speaker 3: a lot of people know him for his battles with

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Speaker 3: the Newsom and the culture wars right concerning which state

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Speaker 3: is freer?

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, he's about fifty times smarter than Newsom. He's

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Speaker 1: very smart, he's very tough. Now you know, he's got

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Speaker 1: a military background, a law background, two degrees from Ivy

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Speaker 1: League schools. Nobody should underestimate him, and I think I

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Speaker 1: think he could cost Trump a lot of problems because

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Speaker 1: Trump is not nearly as smart and not nearly as

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Speaker 1: focused and disciplined. All right, now we move over to

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Speaker 1: an animal story. Deborah Mark, there present dead or alive?

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Speaker 2: What dead or alive? The animal?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I thought you meant me.

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Speaker 1: No, I thought we were playing that game where you

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Speaker 1: try to guess if a celebrity is dead or alive.

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Speaker 2: No, animals dead or alive? I mean, do you have

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Speaker 2: to ruin it? Oh, I'm just all right. I won't.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be on Deborah Mark's side on this one.

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Speaker 3: I really feel bad about this, and I can't believe

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Speaker 3: they did this. What some clown and Yellowstone National Park

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Speaker 3: man looks to be in his forties or.

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Speaker 2: Fifties, is actually a photo.

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Speaker 3: He came upon a bison calf that looked to be

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Speaker 3: stranded from the rest of the herd, so he grabbed it,

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Speaker 3: and he pulled it up a hillside and reunited it

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Speaker 3: with the herd. Do you know what happened next? The

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Speaker 3: herd rejected the calf, and because park rangers thought it

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Speaker 3: was too dangerous, the calf kept walk.

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Speaker 6: No, No, you're not going to say what I think

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Speaker 6: you're gonna say.

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Speaker 2: They euthanized it. Oh, come on, it's a baby bison calf.

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Speaker 2: It's adorable. You can see the picture.

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Speaker 6: Thee it because they're stupid the needle, I guess, John.

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Speaker 3: No, why, well, that's what I thought. I thought there

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Speaker 3: might be a sanctuary somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, there's gotta be I realized it's going to grow

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Speaker 1: into a monster of a size, But there's got to

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Speaker 1: be a farm somewhere where they could take this animal in.

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Speaker 1: I thought, you're going to tell us the guy got

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Speaker 1: stampeded by the herd.

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Speaker 2: That's where I knew that was the end. That would

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Speaker 2: have been the right ending.

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Speaker 3: They're looking for the guy, he could face up to

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Speaker 3: six months in jail a five thousand dollars. Fine, you

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Speaker 3: have to stay like twenty fives away from They got

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Speaker 3: two breeding bison herds in the park.

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Speaker 2: So the mother didn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that the herd kind of walks together, and

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Speaker 3: they just they wouldn't let the I guess they kept

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Speaker 3: nudging it out.

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Speaker 1: Really, so once you leave the herd, that's it, you're done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Remember that's true with birds, because I could touch a bird.

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Speaker 3: The bird, the mother bird were rejected.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that either, yep.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, Oh, I mean I was young and my

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Speaker 3: memory is hazy, but I believe that it was. My

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Speaker 3: brother or my sister sometimes took baby birds and put

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Speaker 3: them in a box in the porch.

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Speaker 2: One day, they pecked their way right in and killed it.

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Speaker 2: The other birds they did. Yeah, yeah, me, I did, well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they pecked through the screen porch, yes, ripped it open,

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Speaker 3: went in there and killed the baby bird in the

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Speaker 3: box while we were gone for an hour or two.

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Speaker 2: You have to wear gloves.

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Speaker 6: You have to wear gloves so that maybe if you're

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Speaker 6: going to do that, so that your scent isn't I.

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Speaker 2: Guess that's what it is, right. See, these animals are

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Speaker 2: not so nice, Deborah, Well some of them. It's tough love.

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Speaker 2: I guess with the mom toughing, so I go off

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Speaker 2: and die.

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Speaker 1: So so they really couldn't take that bison somewhere huh

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Speaker 1: she was gonna. I guess the little baby would would

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Speaker 1: die neglected, no food.

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Speaker 6: I think somebody just thought, Okay, let's just do a

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Speaker 6: quick fix, because there's no reason why it couldn't go

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Speaker 6: to a sanctuary, and no reason at all just to euthanize.

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Speaker 1: What if the bison, if the sanctuary rejected it.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it would be the lowe bison at the sanctuary.

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Speaker 2: Weren't they rejected too, though, Eric, they should be friends,

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Speaker 2: they're not.

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Speaker 3: The National Park Service is just saying that they would

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Speaker 3: not be able to survive on its own. Survival depends

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Speaker 3: on its own daily decision and natural selection. Uh. They

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Speaker 3: do not interfere in the natural death of animals on

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Speaker 3: public lands, including orphans offspring.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't know any of this, Steff. Was it

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Speaker 1: because a human touched the bison? Yeah, yeah, that's exactly why.

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Speaker 1: So if the baby had just wandered away for a

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Speaker 1: while and they.

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Speaker 2: Got it and pulled it back. I don't think it

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Speaker 2: would be a problem, but I think your right. It's

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Speaker 2: a scent.

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Speaker 3: They picked up the scent of a foreign element, which

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Speaker 3: is a person, and they rejected the animal.

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Speaker 2: You can't be with us anymore. We've had it.

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Speaker 1: We've had a ton of animals in our house right

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Speaker 1: because one of my sons, I mean literally dozens of

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Speaker 1: little creatures and birds over the years. And I remember

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Speaker 1: one of the birds had a few eggs which hatched,

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Speaker 1: and we had an issue because the mother birds kept

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Speaker 1: killing the little babies as soon as they came out

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Speaker 1: of or they would like push him right out of

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Speaker 1: the the What did you do?

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Speaker 6: You must have done something to upset the mama bird.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't do anything. Well, why would the mama

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Speaker 2: do that? I don't know. We had this thing where there.

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Speaker 1: Were you touching?

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Speaker 6: Did you touch the eggs?

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Speaker 2: I didn't do anything.

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Speaker 6: Did somebody in your family touch the eggs?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what my son did. He was he

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Speaker 2: was the keeper of the animals. Maybe that's what happened.

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Speaker 2: I just go out and buy the food.

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Speaker 3: What would you like to happen to that guy that

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Speaker 3: did this? Debor Mark that yanked the poor bison calf

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Speaker 3: up and reunited with the turd because he thought he

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Speaker 3: was doing something exactly. I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that he should be in trouble. He was,

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Speaker 6: he was, Yes, he thought he was doing something good.

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Speaker 2: I may have done the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Really, I have read, and I know you don't go

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Speaker 3: anywhere near them and these idiots.

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Speaker 2: At once I didn't know.

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Speaker 6: But when you see this baby struggling, I think it's

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Speaker 6: just an instinct. You just you just want to help it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he thought it was it was near the water.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you thought it was gonna drown, Yeah, exactly, pulling

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Speaker 3: it up outside like a little river bed there.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't doing anything to be intentionally harmful to the bison,

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Speaker 6: or I would have.

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Speaker 1: Been worried about a stampede, because I've got We've gone

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Speaker 1: to Yellowstone a couple of times, and have you been

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Speaker 1: up there when there's yeah, huge herds of bison.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I crossed pictures from the road. But I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't get yeah they cross.

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Speaker 1: Over the yeah, and that these are big, monstrous animals.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't go up near them all right.

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