WEBVTT - #149 - Tenille Townes (Bobby Bones Class of 2019) 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:04.960 Welcome to episode one nine of the Bobby Cast. Here 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.560 with Tanil towns Um And By the way, I know 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.719 you're a big Tom Douglas fan, right I am. Yes, 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.319 he wrote the House That Built Me. That Miranda sang 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.000 one of my favorite songs of all time. He's done 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:17.599 one of these before for an hour for an hour. Yeah, 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.799 I should go back and check that out. I totally will. Yeah, 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.520 what do you just just we're not I mean, I 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.599 guess we're kind of promoting a past episode. But what 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:28.600 did he write? What else did he write? It had 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:30.160 a really good story about was when Lady and Bell 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.560 and come to his house. Yeah, and they sat around 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.599 the piano and yeah, and how they all just kind 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:38.720 of It's good. I was thinking about because I know 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:42.879 you're coming over and I'm a big fan. That's one 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:44.760 of your favorite songs on the House to Build Me. Yes, 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.160 it really is. I every time I hear it, whether 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.480 it's like the intro coming on the radio or I've 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.880 heard her do it in her show night after night, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.680 and it's like, every time it takes me back to 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.160 my childhood house and makes me weepy. Isn't it crazy? 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:05.000 Has some songs you hear and they actually like either 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.160 speak to you or for you yes. And that didn't 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.360 happen to me until probably, you know, my mid twenties, 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.679 where I started to go, oh, these songs are actually 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.360 saying how I feel. It was the first time I've 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.160 ever heard a song. The one for me was John Mayer, 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.440 Stop this Train. I would do that song. I would go, oh, 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.880 he sings for what I'm thinking, And it was the 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.720 first time a songwriter had ever actually said words that 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.920 I felt. And that's when it all started the shifts 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.600 for me going oh, there are not people that kind 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.679 of understand how I feel singing, And for me it 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.160 was it was John Mayer. It's funny that you say 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:36.840 that you hear that song and you think about, you know, 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.399 going back home, who are the other songwriters that you 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.520 you hear and go oh, man, like, that's that's some 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:47.520 real stuff. Laura McKenna. I got to see her play 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.000 around at the Bluebird when I first pulled into town 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:54.320 to move here. Flucally got a seat and I'll never 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.880 forget sitting there watching her. And I had known her 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.320 name and known her songs because I'm kind of like 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.560 a lyric book freak and I had obsessed over all 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:06.360 my favorites were always hers on these records, and I 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.720 really this that. It really hit me and I went 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.720 home and like completely went through her whole catalog and 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.640 collection and I have still like three of her CDs 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.239 in my six CD truck. So I'm I'm a big fan. 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.919 Patty Griffin is the one that I just absolutely love. 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.480 There's something so raw about her delivery too. It's it 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.160 just feels like she's kind of walking up to the 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.440 mic and saying something. I think there's a lot of 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.400 truth that fits out from there. Loria was going to 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.239 come to a show here. I know Laurie relatively well, 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.359 and I got sick because Laura doesn't live here, she 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.799 lives in Boston, and she was coming down and we've 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.320 tried like three times, and I talked to Loria tell 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.360 we text back and forth a little bit, and I 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.360 got really sick. And I feel I let a lot 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.360 of people down because they were still excited about her coming. 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.799 I was excited, were you, Yeah, we've been trying so long, 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.080 it'll happen. Yeah, it'll happen to you know. Have you 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.560 been to write with Lorie? So I wrote with Lauria 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.720 here on one of her trips, and I was just 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:06.040 like shaking, Oh yeah, it's like I think we were 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.280 actually talking a little bit about this um before. But 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.720 it's one thing to meet someone you look up to 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.000 a lot, and then it's a whole other thing when 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.760 they completely exceed all the expectations that you have. And 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.080 she sat down and she was just so cool and 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.200 kind and just like such a sweet mom. She's like 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.240 talking to her son on the phone right before we 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.440 were writing and asking me about my story, and we 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.560 just sat there and got to know one another. I 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.960 love that when a writer really it's like I know 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:35.839 we're here to like write a song, but like tell 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.080 me about your heart. I love that so much. And 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.520 she was just everything and more I dreamed of that 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.680 session would be. That song is very special to me. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.000 I like got my vehicle after drove phone parked in 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.080 front of my little place, like called my dad was 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.080 like crying, and we have this thing that we say, 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.880 it's it's a good day to go for ice cream, 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.160 and so he'll go for like ice cream back at home. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.120 And I definitely had ice cream in the day that 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.000 I wrote with Laurie. My kind of was pretty cool. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.400 And Laurie. If you're not familiar with Laurie, she um 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.280 is one of the love junkies. First of all that 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:11.280 um she wrote girl Crush and that those three it's Laurie, Hilary, 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.880 Lindsay and Liz Rose. Liz also did one of these 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.280 was fantastic too, so cool. Um they write together. Lorie 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.480 also went humbling kind Laurie's written a bunch of songs, um, 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.920 and she's an artist herself, like it sings. But yeah, 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.560 we'll get that one soon hopefully so. And you mentioned 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.160 Patty grib I wondered at a Patty and Austin sometimes 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.560 that's so cool. Yeah, you you bet remind me of Patty. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.680 Like your style. That means a lot. Um, Larry, Let's 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:40.800 play something here. This is let us do where you are. 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.880 It's quite a litle bit of that outstanding. It's a 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:53.440 line any MoU just find my way away are. This 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.040 might have been the first song from ever. It's the 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:57.760 one last thing back to you the most. Yes, I 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.960 love that you do. It's and Neil opened up for 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.320 me uh in my comedy show this past weekend, and 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:05.839 she was like any request from the crowd, and I 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:06.960 was just sitting in the crowd, and I was like, 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:11.360 where you are hard? So she played it? She played it? Yeah, 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.240 so what tell me about that song? How long agould 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.160 you write that? Let's see, just over a year ago, 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.600 also still relatively newish, Yeah, I think so. My My 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.440 friends Dan, Daniel Tashan and Keylan Donovan and I were 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.680 sitting at Big Yellow Dog we all right for that 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:30.039 publishing company, and and Daniel had this really cool little 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.760 kind of electric mandolin and he was playing this beautiful 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.120 little melody and Keelan was saying how true love is 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.000 really represented by how long you'll stand in line for 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.919 someone for anything. Like That's such a good point. We 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.560 just kind of went from there. But I love this song. 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:54.560 Yeah I did too. It's a good one. It's right 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.920 now you have um, you have that what the living rooms? 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.960 That sessions? Living room work types don't even work types, right, 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.680 and it's all very acoustic stuff. Yes, So how many 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.760 of those songs are on that? I'm okay? So it's 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.359 like where you are, Jersey on the Wall, White Horse, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.599 Somebody's daughter obviously, um, but somebody's daughter you have up twice. 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.000 It's do you have to you have the acoustic version 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.320 and then the full version. Right, so you have those four. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.160 But what I was telling you it was like I'm 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.039 so ready for like a bunch of music, like and 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:25.560 I'm a big fan. I tell you that all the time. 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.000 And I'm not even embarrassed to tell you because I 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.560 think if you enjoy what people do and they create, 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.360 you should tell them. Um. And I remember the first 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.520 time we met. We were in Las Vegas, not together. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.680 I don't even know if you knew who I was. Oh, 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.560 definitely knew who you were. This is probably eight six 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.400 seven months ago. Yeah, man, it's only that. So there 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.680 was a party and I was after an award show. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:48.880 Is that what we were there for? Yes? I think so. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.120 And I walked up to this party because it was 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.760 are you see okay? So am we have so we 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.640 have the same representation? Yeah? Um, and so I go 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.599 to this party where like my agents are TV agents 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.400 or c A, my music agents or CIA, and so I, 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.880 um go up to this party where they were and 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:07.640 they're like, yeah, there's some artists over here. You just 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.080 say how to some people and they were like Danil 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:11.520 Towns over there. I was like, oh, I'm the biggest 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.320 Danil Towns fan and I walk out and I'm like, hey, Danil, 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:15.560 and she was like, you don't know who I am? 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.160 And I was like, yeah, you are from Calgary, Like 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:22.080 every thinking about like how do you know that? Like hello? 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.640 It was so cool. Thank you for that. It's cool. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:26.520 And now I'm gonna play a little bit of somebody's 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:27.960 daughter here because this is your song right now, this 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:36.400 is what they call your single. It's this correct? Yeah, boy, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:43.040 it was How did they go along with you and 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:44.600 pick a song and it's gonna be your first song? 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.600 And what's that process? Like are you involved in that? 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.480 Are you sitting in a room thinking about, well, what's 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.880 gonna be the first single? Definitely for me, I'm such 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.920 I love believing in the process of like envisioning what 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.080 you want to happen and focusing on that. And for me, 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.640 looking at the collection of songs, the sage of what 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.480 this stands for and what I kind of wanted to 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.760 walk out with an introduction to people for was represented 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.080 in this song to me, and I'm really grateful to 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.240 the people that I work with really listened to that 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.480 and respected that, and we all bounced around everybody's ideas 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.240 and and I'm grateful. This one kind of stuck out 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.160 for everybody. Is this the one that you wanted? Yes, well, 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.760 rare than a new artist has an idea and everyone 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.400 agrees with it. I really do consider that a really 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.080 cool thing. So you grew up in Canada, I did, so, 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.840 are you from Calgary or from outside Calgary, like where 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.600 I'm from Grand Prairie. Actually, so it's like eight hours 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.520 north of Calgary. You're not even from Calgary. No, that's 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.640 like a whole different state in the in America from Calgary. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.240 Alberta's close anything in Olvera. I'm like, yeah, that's where 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.200 I'm from, but it's Grand Fairies. So it's you know, 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.480 a fairly small community and the wide open spaces, lots 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.199 of sky, lots of fields for most of the year, 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.760 lots of snow. Yeah. We were in Michigan and there 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.560 was like a little bit of know, it mostly melted. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.040 I was like, oh, look at this, not just a 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:10.400 little nothing. I mean, that's so cold and snowy it is. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.560 It's like, I mean, I it's a winter wonderland. I 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.599 was just up there for Christmas and it's beautiful. It 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.960 builds a lot of character for people up there because 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:25.600 It's not always the most glamorous of circumstances, shoveling and 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.200 working outside in the cold, and I think it brings 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.760 people closer together a lot, because you're stuck in the 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.160 house all the time. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta make 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.480 your own sunshine up there. So why I moved to Nashville. 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.280 Did you think about staying in Canada and doing country 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.640 music in Canada? Like, what was the deal? I did? 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.800 And I definitely got my feet wet putting things out 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.720 in Canada and touring and exploring that there's a really 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.080 awesome community of Canadian country music family up there that 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.280 I love. But for me, it was always sort of 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.560 this crazy dream. I did this song or his workshop 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.600 when I was fourteen, and one of the mentors was 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.960 from Nashville, and I had obviously heard of Nashville. I 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.559 listened to the Grand Operations my grandparents and knew from 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.120 all the liner notes, so this is where all the 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.840 recording happened and the writing, and just dreamed about it. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.640 And this mentor was like, we should come to Nashville 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.719 and right sometime, and I was like, you can do that, 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.720 Like we could just go there and write, and so 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.720 shortly after that, my mom took me and made my 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.120 first trip, and she rented the car and drove me 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.800 around to these writing sessions, and I fell in love 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.719 four your fourteen and you you came to Nashville and 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.160 drove around with people. Yes, how did you get rights 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.000 of fourteen? From that mentor that you know? Wrote with me? 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.120 He was mostly who I was writing with on that trip. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.960 But then he set up other sessions for us to 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.960 go go to, So I'll be forever grateful for that. 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.920 And and I went. We went and saw everything. We drove. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.760 I would make my mom drive up and down, music 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.800 grow and I would just be like reading all the 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.280 signs of these buildings. And we went to the opera 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.200 and walked around the Hall of Fame, and it just 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:58.920 lit this fire in me. I was like, I can 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.920 all wait to come back years someday. And I kept 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.079 making trips back and forth from that point as much 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.200 as my parents would let me skip school and and 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.280 come and take the time to take me in. And 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.680 I made probably seven or eight trips until I graduated. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.960 And then before graduation, I sat my parents down. I 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.240 was like, so my dad's a big outliers guy and 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.040 believes in the ten thousand hours thing, and that was 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:24.840 my pitch. I was like, I can't get my ten 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.320 thousand hours, you know, working at this music thing if 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.720 I'm going to go to university somewhere. So I didn't apply, 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.600 and I came up with this plan where we visited 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.160 junior high in high schools and spent thirty two weeks 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.360 in a motor home driving across Canada and playing for kids. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.480 And it was like the most awesome experience and made 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.440 me fall in love with the roads so much. I 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.160 was like, Okay, I'm in. And then when that too 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.280 a wrapped, I decided that Nashville was where I wanted 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.839 to land and go, and so my dad and helped 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.080 me drive. We loaded up my Tacoma and it's forty 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:03.640 five hour trip from her. I'm fraide to Nashville. What's 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.400 the when you cross Canada into the States that border 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.200 tricky or no? Tricky? Yeah, I mean the press because 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.680 I've done in the Mexico when yes, So I don't 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.080 know what the candidate American border is. You gotta have 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.120 your pay work for sure, but you can also just 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.360 come visit for six months. So initially I wasn't sure 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.560 what it was like to be here and stay so 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.360 that my plan was just to come for six months 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.760 and see And so we crossed the border. That was 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:28.679 funny that the guard at the border looked at my 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.120 dad and was like, so, let me get this straight. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.520 You're driving her all the way to Nashville and you're 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.560 dropping her off and you're flying home and you're leaving 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:39.600 her there. And my Dad's like, yeah, that sounds kind 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.160 of crazy, doesn't it. But that's exactly what happened. So 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.000 I stayed here and just I mean, I loved it 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.280 so much. I learned so much. 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It's just songwriters playing the 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.840 songs they wrote. Most of the times, it's not the artists. 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.960 When you would go to the writer's rounds, who did 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.120 you see And you'd go like, it's so freaking cool 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:38.800 that I can see this person play like in your 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.440 early days of just going in like watching Kalen Smith. 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.520 Caitlin's one of the first ones things we ever did. Yeah, 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.440 Caitlin's a friend, She's so cool. And I would hear 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:51.000 people like Caitlin South, Laura Canada, Tom Douglas, I mean, 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.480 Josh Kere, Gordy Sampson, all these guys like talk about 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.680 what it was like when they first got to town 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.200 and talk about showing up in this town with stars 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.800 in their eyes and just this creative spirit and just 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.040 keep plugging away at it and hear the story of 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.680 how long it takes and you know their process, And 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.040 that was always the most encouraging thing because I was like, 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.080 if they can sit there and play that song. It's 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.600 like a number one on radio that they poured their 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.360 whole heart into and tell me that you stick with 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.200 it and it works. And I was like, I'm gonna 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.280 do that. You know. It was really cool to hear 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.480 them tell those stories and so you did that a lot. Huh. 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.600 Who What's funny is people come to town and other 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.720 people come to town around the same time. Because this town, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.479 there's always a new crew people coming in. It's like classes. 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.520 And I've often talked to artists and songwriters about who 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.960 came in their class, because like in my class around 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.880 the same time was Dan and Shay. They got together, 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.160 I got on the radio. We kind of started at 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.040 the same time. We kind of have that we're going 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.760 through this together. Um, you know, we've even a bit, Darius, 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.880 because we were both doing pop and rocks and we 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:00.640 both crossed, so we've done a bunch of stuff together. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.960 That So who moved to town around the time you 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:04.320 did that you kind of would see and you were 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.760 starting out around the same point. That's a good question. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.200 There's definitely a crew of Canadians that I would like 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.560 new from back home, but anybody, but I'm like you 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.680 come to town and you saw them starting out around 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:20.640 the same time. Kaylee hammock Um, Cassie Ashton and let's 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:25.200 see who else, my friend Madison kozak Um And when 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.120 was that one? Did you come to town? Let's see 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.360 five years ago now, okay, I mean a little after 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.640 when I got here. We're almost in the same were 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:37.120 also almost almost not fully. So you come to town 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.480 and you start just kind of grabbing friends, right, anybody 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.720 that that will be friends with you. You're just searching 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.840 for people to write with, to hang out with. And 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:45.200 that's a weird thing. It's almost like going to a 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.240 new school. It is kind of like going to a 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:52.000 new school. And I think what's interesting about Nashville. A 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.200 lot of people are very out much outside of their 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.080 comfort zones, away from their homes, away from their families, 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.440 and they're like the friends that they grew up with, 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.880 the life they know, and it's like they're coming to 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.960 pour everything they have into this craft. And I think 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.960 that's like such a common ground to really connect with people. 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.520 And it's like you're not alone in that. You told 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.000 a story on my show once about Shania Twain pulling 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.359 you on stage the right. Yes, you're a kid, right, 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:21.439 So you go to a show? Are you sitting up front? 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.879 So a whole bunch of my family went, but my 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.359 mom and I ended up in the second row. And 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.399 I had made a costume, while my mom actually had 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.160 made a costume right before we drove. It's a five 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.040 hour drive Demonton to go see all these concerts. And 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.320 she like glue gunns this the yellow and red and 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.359 orange stripes, like the Miami Concert DVD that I had 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.160 obsessed a million times over. And I had the little 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.560 yellow ponytail on top of my head and I made 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.760 a sign with glitter on it that said, Shana, I 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.360 can I please sing with you? And so I mean 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.840 I was singing at the top of my lungs to 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.960 the whole show. I knew every word, and she eventually, 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.000 you like came around the security guard let me stand 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:03.440 right up by the stage. I was like, this is 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.919 the best day of my life. And she like passed 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:08.840 the mic to this girl few seats down and let 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.119 her sing some lines and then kept walking towards me. 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.360 And I thought, maybe she's going to do the same thing, 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.280 but instead of like reaching out the microphone, she stuck 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.680 her hand out and so I like threw the sign 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.840 behind me and grabbed her hand and we ran around 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.040 her stage. We had like three tiers to it, and 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.080 I remember the floor was like the checker plate pattern, 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.639 and I remember running kind of beside her, holding her 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.760 hand and seeing her feet and I was like, this 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.199 is real, Like this is real. And so we end 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.240 up on this third tier and I'm looking out to 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.840 this like black curtain because the lights are this crazy 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.679 haze in there, and I can't see anybody, but I 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.320 can hear the sound of what eighteen tho people screaming 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.800 feels like. And I was like, this is it. This 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.040 is everything I want to do, and I'm standing here 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.720 next to my hero. And she asked me to sing 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.080 a piece of a song by myself. So I sang 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.679 the chorus upon me, I'm home and really yeah, and 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.880 then luckily it h yeah. And you, just nine years old, 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.480 were so confident that you just do you think you 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.720 were a bit naive at nine. I wasn't thinking about 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.159 any kind of fear at all. It was just straight 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.159 love for it and it. I'm so grateful that happened 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.560 at that point in my life, because that anchor always 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.760 stuck with me, and it's like, no matter what kind 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.560