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The Large nerd Drunk 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:39.559 Collidor Podcast is a production of I Heart Radio. Hi everybody, 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.839 Welcome to the Larger Ner Drunk Collador Podcast, the podcast 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.559 that's all about gee things happening in the world around 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.720 us and how excited we are about them. I'm Ariel 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:53.200 Casting and with me as always is peek Boy Jonathan Strickland. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.880 I'm the geek Boy. Hey, Ariel, I got a question 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:06.080 for you. All right, Dariel, You've got all the materials, 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.760 all the skills at your disposal all the time. You 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:14.079 need to make your dream causeplay. We both have been 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.560 to dragon Con many times. Cosplay is a huge part 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:24.600 of Dragon Con. What is your dream causeplay? So this 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:29.640 is this is difficult because I have many of them, um, 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.200 but the one that I have yet to see anybody do. 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.000 So I'm picking this because, like I could say, I 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.760 want to be a realistic Little Mermaid or I want 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.079 to be Jessica Rabbit. Those have always been like high 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.560 on my list of things to play or fem ship 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.519 from Mass Effect. But the one that I have yet 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.119 to see anybody do that I would love to love 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.840 to do is a really well is a female version 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:54.000 of the tick? Oh you know what. I don't think 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.960 I've seen anyone ever play a female version of the 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:02.680 tick either, And it's an interesting choice. But you know, 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:06.360 since cause players like to role play their characters oftentimes, 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.160 I just think it would be an awful lot of fun. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.880 I can very much relate to the Ticks non sequitors. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.560 Sometimes we would have to see if our our mutual 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:20.280 friends Sasha would be your Arthur. Oh, that would be amazing. Yeah, 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:26.040 because you and Sasha whenever you're paired together. I mean 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.160 it's been a while, it has been a while, but 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.519 and Sasha has gone on to that. Yeah, and Sasha 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.480 has gone on to do some like phenomenal causplays. Sasha 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.760 is just if you've ever seen that picture by picture 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.240 of tinker Bell next to thorign Oaken shield and it says, 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.560 this is the same person. That's our friend Sasha, whom 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:52.240 we've known for years. Yeah, yeah, I would love to 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.240 do that with Sasha, but I don't have the skills 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.600 to actually build that costume, nor all the resources in 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.040 the world to do so what would be yours? I 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.600 gave this a lot of thought, and you know, because 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.160 I like playing bad guys, because you know, I'm not 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:08.960 a bad guy, So it's fun to kind of just 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.560 play pretend. I think I would go Uber bad guy. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:17.920 I wanna really cool which King ring Wraith costume from 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:22.200 Glord of the Rings. Yeah, it would. That's so before 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:26.360 we started recording, actually, just to peek behind the veil, 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.919 I gave Ariel a bit of a heads up on 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.240 this one because I felt like this particular question is 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:33.920 one of those where you kind of want to think 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.680 about it. You know, you just get you get that 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.680 one dropped on your lap, and your chances are you're 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.560 going to give an answer and then like twenty minutes later, 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.440 you're gonna say I hate that answer. So I wanted 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.240 to give her a little time, and I said, yeah, 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.000 this is one of those costumes that if I were 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.240 wearing it at Dragon Con, if I did have the 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.880 ability to put it all together, I would probably be 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.560 stationary because I don't think I would be able to 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.560 see very well in a witch King outfit, and um, 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.440 i'd be worried about walking into people or falling down 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.960 an escalator. Worse yet, falling down an up escalator, which 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:11.000 means you're just falling forever. It's that would be horrible, horrible, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.520 you know, I Honestly, I changed my mind like three 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.400 times between the time you gave me time to think 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.400 about it in the time you actually asked me the 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.839 question during recording. But I mean because I've done a 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.839 lot of cosplay, and it tends to be things that 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:28.160 are easier to do because as much as I love 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.440 sewing and I love costume design, I'm not actually fantastic 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.680 at execution. So all of those I would love to 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.200 reado in a better format. And and lately when I've 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.479 caused played, it's been very closet causeplay things like Street Close, 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.920 Black Widow or Mary Jane on a business day, or 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:50.159 you know, stuff that doesn't require specific pieces that are 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.760 not normally viable at a story. Yeah, the last causeplay 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.080 I did was Kabuky Mask from Big Hero six, the 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.680 bad guy from Big Hero six. Um. I did that. 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.000 I had the three D accustomed three D printed mask 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.880 for that that that I painted up and put reflective 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.440 lenses inside and everything, So it was it is probably 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.359 the most involved one I did. And that one was 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:18.320 that was off the rack pieces that I just altered 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.839 slightly because if you've seen Big Hero six, you've seen 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.839 that Kabucky Mask wears a bunch of layers, and dragon 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:30.560 Con happens in August in Georgia. So yeah, but it 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.880 looked good. I got to see it. It looked really good. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.760 Thank you well. I I hope that we can once 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:40.000 again indulge in some cosplay and plus just really enjoy 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.760 the incredible work that the cosplay community puts into their pieces. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:48.080 It's constantly the highlight of dragon Con for me is 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:56.240 just seeing the creative costuming, everything from incredibly accurate replicas 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:00.240 of pieces you've seen in film or television or even 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:05.159 comic books, up to the crazy, you know, mash ups 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.160 and offshoots that come up a lot of I think 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.720 a lot of the spirit of large Nerdron Collider is 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:15.200 in those kinds of cosplay. It definitely is. I wonder 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.880 when we get back to conventions with cosplay, dragon Con specifically, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.040 since that's the one right right outside our door, if 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.280 we're going to get many knives out causplays. Yeah, that's 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.520 an excellent question, because I mean, that's the thing is 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.120 that one of the interesting bits about cosplay is that 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:35.480 we've seen it branched far beyond the fantasy and science 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.040 fiction and superheroes and horror. It started to go all 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.480 over the place and in all the areas where people have, 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.760 you know, a deep fandom for the thing. And the 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.240 reason you bring out Knives Out is because we've heard 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.920 about yet another addition to the cast. We talked about 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.080 Batista being part of the cast. Now we know that 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.720 Leslie Odom Jr. Is going to be part of the cast. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.680 He played uh well, He's been in lots of stuff, 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.920 but I think of him as Aaron Burr from Hamilton's 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:07.040 where he was phenomenal originating that role. I'm going to say, 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.560 if he's the killer, then that's type casting and not fair. 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:15.440 Maybe he accidentally shoots the victim or something. But yeah, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.640 we also know that Edward Norton is in the cast, 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.920 as is Katherine han Um. So I mean, I don't know, 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.920 it could have been Yeah, I think it might be 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:28.400 Kevin han because it was Agatha all along. So really, 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.280 what you're saying is you expect Knives Out to to 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:38.960 be Aaron Burr, the Hulk, Agatha from from One Division 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:45.080 and James Bond and James Bond, Daniel Craig all in 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.520 a room together. Yes. No, I'm just I'm just in 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.400 Drax and I'm trying to figure out which Janelle Monet 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.800 character I want to select for this. Yeah, so it's 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.000 not gonna be individual characters. It's going to be all 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.840 the other characters they've played, yes, exactly. Also, it'll turn 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:02.800 out to be kind of like Clue, where everyone ends 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.200 up being a killer. Oh spoiler for Clue in case 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:10.160 you haven't seen that movie. Jonathan came out in the 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.880 early eighties. I think I think the Statute of Limitations 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.000 is done. I've watched it like a thousand times. But 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.200 I was going to say that you're making me redo 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.600 my evening plans, but that's not true at all. Well, 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.480 and I have to say I'm really excited about Knives 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:28.120 Out too. I very much enjoyed the first film. I 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.600 was late to seeing the first movie. I knew that 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.480 it was. There was a huge amount of buzz around 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.200 it already by the time I saw it, so I 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.880 didn't I was not on that that first like boat 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.520 of folks who saw it. I was so lucky that 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.160 no one spoiled it for me, so I got to 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.200 go into it and enjoy the mystery for what it was. 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.920 Although I maintain that if you do watch Knives Out, 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.800 if you haven't seen it before, I maintained that I'm 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.199 I'm pretty sure most people are going to suss out 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.760 who the killer is pretty pretty early on. But it 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.880 was still a very entertaining film. Yes, and from a 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.120 storytelling standpoint and an artistic standpoint, there are so many 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.640 little clues enhanced that they put in throughout that's just 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.120 really fantastic. Um, Jonathan, I'm actually going to be a 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.880 bit of a book and I'm going to change our 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.480 show order after we decided it because I realized that 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.880 if we're talking about Knives Out, which is a murder mystery, 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:27.360 we should then talk about our other true crime murder story. Now, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:32.280 Dear Evan Hanson, got it. I'm sorry, that's what we 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:36.199 were supposed to talk about. Okay, Right, so you're you're 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:40.000 talking about the the Steve Martin and Martin Short series 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.440 that is coming out on Hulu. Yes, it's called Only 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.920 Murders in the Building, which took me a bit because 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.720 that's not really a name that like rolls off the 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.640 tongue or makes a whole lot of sense. But it's 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.760 Steve Martin, Martin Short, Amy Ryan and Selena Gomez and 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:02.160 they are true crime podcast fans who then decide to 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:05.600 solve true crime. Yes, a murderer, or at least a 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.640 death happens in the apartment building where they all live. 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.040 They're all strangers to one another except for the fact 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.319 that they all happened to share this love of true 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.480 crime podcasts, and a death happens in their building, and 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.440 collectively they decide that they want to investigate it because 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.360 they all suspect that the death was in fact a 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:29.959 murder um and they want to put the skills they 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:34.720 have learned by listening to true crime podcasts to the test. Ariel, 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.560 I gotta tell you this to me is kind of 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:42.120 my nightmare. I've thought it might be, uh, just just 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.400 because I know that you have feels on true crime 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.680 pod I do. I'm a I'm a podcast producer who 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:51.920 works for a company that produces more than a few 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.840 true crime podcasts. And the thought of fans taken it 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.800 upon themselves to try and solve crime because of their 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.760 received expertise because they listen to a lot of true 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.400 crime shows fills me with a terror that is difficult 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.760 to put into words. I mean, I totally get in 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:14.199 that being said. The trailer is so adorable, like so 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:19.080 Steve Steve Martin and Martin Short. Oftentimes they're both comedic, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:24.000 comedically brilliant in many ways, but a lot of times, 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.880 especially like when they rehash old characters on S and 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.440 L or whatnot, they're so over the top. To me, 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.240 they're just very very large, and so I was worried 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:39.120 that watching this trailer they would both be very very large. Um, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:44.000 and they're they're big, but they're not unbearably big. And 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.560 then you've got Selina Gomez coming in is just this 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:52.559 straight man like, very wry sort of personality that balanced 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.160 it out really well in the trailer. I didn't expect to. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.640 I had to watch the trailer, but I didn't expect 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:01.560 to want to watch the show. Now, I I agree 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.600 with you, Like you know, when I think of Steve 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:07.200 Martin and Martin Short together, my thoughts immediately go to 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.960 the Three Amigos, um but which is great, fantastic, I 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.800 love it. But yeah, as you say, like the performances 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.920 in that film are not at all subtle. They're not 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.760 supposed to be. That's not the kind of movie it is. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.880 We By the way, fun fact, if you go back 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.200 through our old YouTube videos, there's one of our YouTube 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.520 videos where we heavily reference the Three Amigos when we 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.280 talk about the seven Sons of the Seven Samurai. But yeah, 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.600 like I'm the same way. I wasn't sure what to expect, 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.959 but everyone, like Steve Martin, especially in the past few years, 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.640 has turned in some performances that are much more nuanced 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.360 and subtle. Like he's not the wild and crazy guy 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:50.280 at the seventies or the zany comedy guy of the eighties. Uh. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.760 He still has that incredible since the humor, but it's 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:58.600 channeled in a different way now. Yeah. Yeah, I would 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:00.480 definitely say that he's the more my old of the 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:08.240 two h Martin's Yes, the Steve Martin short, Yes, Steve 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:13.360 Martin short Martin Steve Martin Short. Okay, So speaking of 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.000 nuanced performances, Yeah, this is gonna be a fun conversation 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.280 We're about to get into here. Um yeah, we wanted it, 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.280 so we do. Do want to talk about Dear Evan 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:27.400 Hanson because the trailer for the movie adaptation of the 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.720 Broadway show launched the day we're recording this, which is 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:37.400 one and it surprised me because despite the fact that 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:42.160 I'm on a show where we cover entertainment news, I 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:46.120 wasn't aware that there was a musical version of this 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.880 coming out, Like I had heard that it was happening, 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.080 but it completely fell off my radar because it was 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:55.600 just the beginning stages last I personally picked up on it. Well. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.200 It surprised me also that you know, they actually cast 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:04.400 the actor who played the character of Evan Hanson in 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.800 the Broadway stage show as that character in the film, which, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.240 on one hand, is a neat thing because you very 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:16.520 rarely see that, right. We usually see Hollywood actors who 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:20.120 end up getting cast in these roles and maybe, if 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.200 you're lucky, they can sing. But in this case, we're 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.800 seeing the actual person who originated the part on Broadway 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.160 doing the role on the screen. That doesn't always work out. 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:33.640 Rent was a disaster, but um, but we're hopeful on 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:38.400 this one. However, it does bring up an issue that 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.920 the Internet has more than jumped all over Yeah, which 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.080 is the fact that Ben Platt is which you know, 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.320 it's not always an issue in Hollywood. They are constantly 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.360 people being in their Yeah, and we should point out 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.120 Evan Hanson. Dear. Evan Hanson's is a story that's set 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.720 in like mostly in a high school with the main 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.720 character feeling like an outcast at that high school, and 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.280 he has a couple of encounters with a similar outcast 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.640 in that school, and it appears that the two of 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.480 them from the outside like people who are just casually looking. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.960 It looks like the two of them formed a friendship. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:20.040 Then this other person, Connor, takes his own life, and 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:25.840 that appearance of a friendship becomes uh kind of a 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.120 lie that people just start to believe, and Evan is 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.040 sort of wrapped up in it. Um. The story gets 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.480 much more complicated from there, but the point being that 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.040 you've got an actor in his late twenties playing a teenager, 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.000 and a lot of people started sharing memes, especially of 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:45.600 the Steve Boussimmi like you know what's up, young people, 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.720 fellow young people that kind of meme as a joke 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.040 about being Evan Hansen. All of the kids are in 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:55.280 their twenties, so a Lana Back, Zoe Murphy, Connor Murphy, 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.680 Jared Klein. They're all in their twenties between twenty two 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.320 and twenty six. So Ben Platt playing Evan Hanson is 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.520 not so far off, but he looks way older than 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.080 that he does, and so I feel weird about this areal. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.440 And the reason why is because every film depends upon 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.760 a suspension of disbelief. Right, you have to suspend disbelief 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.879 because you know, this is a movie. People showed up 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.000 to set, there was catering, there were lights, there were 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.320 crew that are not in view if the movie is 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:27.080 done properly, like I like, like, you know, it's all artifice, 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.280 so you already have to buy into it. Now it 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.240 is asking you more to buy into it. When an 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:37.200 actor is the wrong age to play a character quote 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:41.480 unquote wrong age, it's a little easier, I would argue, uh, 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.000 when you go to see a stage production, because then 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.159 you're having to suspend your disbelief even more because you 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.640 can just look around and see that you know, you're 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:54.760 not really you know wherever um. But I also like 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.720 I get it where like you know, you're you're you're 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.800 feeling a disconnect between the uh, the appearance of an 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.480 actor and the supposed age of the character they're playing. 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.520 But there are a lot of shows out there that 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:13.480 have adults playing children and that's part of the show, 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.399 Like like the annual Putnam County Spelling Bee, is that 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.000 way You're a good man, Charlie Brown is that way. 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:25.399 So I guess it just depends on intent and the 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.920 way it's portrayed. But I'm not feeling a mental block here, 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.800 I guess, is what I'm saying. Me neither. So like 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:33.399 if you look at the movie Eighth Grade, where they 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.040 used actual eighth graders, if they had used high schoolers 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:42.040 and then put Ben Platt into that environment, I would 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.480 have felt real creepy about that. But because they've cast 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.600 everyone older, you know, you can kind of just age 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.040 up in your brain. I know that as I get older, 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:51.760 and I'm not old by any means, but as I 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:55.160 get older, all of a sudden, people my age look 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.760 younger to me so well, and and I think about 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.960 things like you know, like you said, it's not a 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:06.359 new thing to cast adults as teenagers. Like the television 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.840 series Buffy the Vampire Slayer, every single one of the 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:14.840 principal actors, we're playing characters several years younger than themselves, 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.800 sometimes like a decade younger than themselves. So it's not 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.080 an unusual thing. Um, I do get like the initial 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.639 knee jerk reaction, It's not a big deal to me. 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.560 I can get past it. Also, Like I think part 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.920 of It's also that I kind of wanted to see 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.720 Dear Evan Hansen when it was originally running on Broadway. 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.800 But it's one of those things where like it's tough 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.800 to see a show with its original cast. I mean, 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.040 there's it's just it's an exclusive thing, right, So this 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:46.280 is a chance to see the the guy who originated 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:49.520 the part do it again. And when else am I 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.320 going to get a chance to see that? I agree? 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.479 You know, I think I was going to say they 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.680 could have done it because you run into work issues 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:57.880 like how much time a kid can be on set 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.119 if they're under eighteen. But I really think they It 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.119 is so that people could see then Platt as Evan Hanson, 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.440 which you know, when I listened to the soundtrack, that's 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.680 who I love singing it. So I'm also quite excited. 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.080 I'm I'm not having any hang ups. So he does 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:12.920 look a little old to me, but I yeah, no, 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:16.399 I agree, I agree. Well, you know what, Ariel, I 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.720 think what we should do is take a break and 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:22.040 when we come back, we'll talk a little bit about 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.560 some interesting mergers that are coming up, and then segue 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:37.600 into some situational comedic conversation. Still living in and manually 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.399 taking notes. Start the new year with auto dot ai 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:44.119 to generate automatic notes for meetings, interviews, or lectures. With 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.560 auto dot ai, you can search the meeting notes, insert images, 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.439 playback the audio, and share them with your friends or coworkers. 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.760 You can capture action items, remember meeting details, and keep 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.080 everyone informed. 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When 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:14.440 you first get there, you have to experience girls screaming, 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:21.560 locked up, peeing themselves in the hallway, sleeping, and you're like, 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:28.800 where am I, Holy hack, this is not what I expected. 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:33.600 Listen to Trapped and Treatment on the I Heart Radio app, 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:43.480 Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast, Okay, Ariel. 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.680 So there are a couple of stories here that get 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.439 into the realm of one of the other shows. We 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.240 used to do Business on the Brink, where we would 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:56.680 talk about like some big, big, big moments in business 0:22:56.760 --> 0:23:01.800 history that either led to incredible success or monumental failure. 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.520 And we've got a couple of stories that could be 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:08.560 like a turning point um And one of them is 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:13.800 that Amazon is rumored to be on the prowl to 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:18.560 pick up MGM, the one of the oldest movie production 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:24.240 companies ever, which has had numerous financial difficulties throughout its 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:31.080 very long history. M hmm, yeah, which, you know, I 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.160 get it. The The interesting thing to me is along 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.639 with MGM comes things like getting the movie Fargo, but 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.680 the Fargo television show is on Hulu, which is owned 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:44.280 by Disney. But they get like the James Bond series 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:50.120 that's got to be worth something, Hobbit, Rocky rebotop. I'm 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:53.000 just reading through the list here, Get Shorty, which it's 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.600 probably not a show a movie that like half our 0:23:55.600 --> 0:24:01.320 audience has ever seen, but I saw it in the theater. Yeah, 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:05.879 so yeah, it's It's really interesting. Um because as these 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.240 big mergers happened, they kind of start overlapping in my brain. 0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:13.720 But at the same time, like I so, it feels 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:15.720