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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're clinging

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Speaker 1: to good news like it's the door in Titanic. The

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court officially rejected a call to overturn its decision

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Speaker 1: legalizing same sex marriage. Suck it, Kim Davis, long live

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Speaker 1: marriage and gay shit. It's Tuesday, November eleventh, and on

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Speaker 1: today's show, we'll be chatting with Yahoo Sports contributor Maggie

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Speaker 1: Hendrix about the biggest college hoop storylines, the upcoming games

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Speaker 1: she has circled on her calendar, and the event she's

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Speaker 1: most excited to watch at the upcoming Milan Courtina Winter Olympics.

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Speaker 1: Plus Carolina Blue is always in winning a tie game,

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Speaker 1: and a reminder to always vote. It's all coming up

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Speaker 1: right after this welcome back slices. Here's what you need

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Speaker 1: to know today. Let's start with the NWSL. The league

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Speaker 1: announced the nominees for its twenty twenty five end of

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Speaker 1: season awards on Monday, including the five finalists for Most

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Speaker 1: Valuable Player, San Diego's Delphine Cascarino, Kansas City's teen Wushewinga

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Speaker 1: got the Esterere Gonzales, North Carolina's Manaka, and Kansas City's

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Speaker 1: Bia Zanarut. We'll link to the full list of nominees

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Speaker 1: for the other awards in the show notes so you

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Speaker 1: can consider your picks for Defender of the Year, Goalkeeper

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Speaker 1: of the Year, Midfielder of the Year, Rookie.

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Speaker 1: And because we care about election integrity here on Good Game,

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Speaker 1: a quick recap of how the process works. The NWSL

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Speaker 1: awards are determined using two rounds. In the first round, players, owners,

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Speaker 1: general managers, coaches, and media vote to determine the finalists.

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Speaker 1: Once the finalists are decided, fans get a say. It's

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Speaker 1: worth ten percent of the final weighted calculation. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to have your voice heard, you have until

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Speaker 1: Wednesday at eight pm Eastern. We'll link to the voting

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Speaker 1: form in the show notes and new for this year,

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Speaker 1: the winners are going to be announced at a special

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Speaker 1: award show that will broadcast live on ESPN two next Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: the nineteenth, ahead of the NWSL Championship game. More NWSL

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Speaker 1: a belated shout out to the five players who logged

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Speaker 1: iron Woman status this season by playing in every minute

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Speaker 2: North Carolina's Kaylee.

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Speaker 1: Kurtz actually completed her fourth consecutive Iron Woman season, playing

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Speaker 1: ten thousand minutes straight. The other four Iron Women are

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Speaker 1: BFC's Caprice stad Asco, Seattle's Claudia Dickey, Chicago's Taylor Malam,

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Speaker 1: and Utah's Kate Delfava. Now, I think the NWSL needs

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Speaker 1: to line up a sponsor for this honor. Maybe Icy

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Speaker 1: Hot their body hyper Rice. These ladies deserve to win

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Speaker 1: some fancy ass treatment tools for the toll they put

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Speaker 1: on their bodies to field hockey. The bracket for the

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Speaker 1: Division one NCAA tournament is set following the conclusion of

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Speaker 1: conference play on Sunday. Friend of the Show Aaron Mattson

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Speaker 1: and UNC claimed the number one overall seat in the

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Speaker 1: eighteen team bracket after finishing the regular season with a

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Speaker 1: nineteen to one record and winning the program's ninth straight

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Speaker 1: ACC title, Yes ninth straight. The tar Heels will be

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Speaker 1: looking to win a third NCUBLEA title in four years

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Speaker 2: Took the top prize last season.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Northwestern, Friend of the Show Tracy fuchs Husky's

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Speaker 1: face finish their season eighteen and one, won the Big

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Speaker 1: the NFHCA coaches pol all season long, but they were

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Speaker 1: for the first time since twenty twenty one. The tournament's

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Speaker 1: four team plan is this Wednesday, with the first round

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Speaker 1: ESPN Plus and we'll link to the full bracket in

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Speaker 1: the show notes. To Pro Volleyball Lone Star Sports and Entertainment,

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Speaker 1: the sister company of the NFL's Houston Texans announced it's

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Speaker 1: acquired the Love Houston team. The news came on the

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Speaker 1: same day that Love announced the full schedule for the

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Speaker 1: upcoming twenty twenty sixth season, with Houston slated to open

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Speaker 1: it season on January eighth, playing host to Love Salt Lake.

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Speaker 1: Among Houston Stars is two time Olympic medallist and twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five Love Pro opposite Hitter of the Year Jordan Thompson,

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Speaker 1: who you might recall will be returning to Texas fresh

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Speaker 1: off winning this year's AU.

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Speaker 2: Pro Volleyball title.

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Speaker 1: More volleyball, this time at the college rates twenty four

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Speaker 1: in December and March. Finally, to college hockey, the latest

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Speaker 1: u USACHO rankings came out on Monday, and they tell

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Speaker 1: the same story as previous weeks. With Wisconsin secure in

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Speaker 1: Even though Evans scored and Clarkson technically got the edge

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Speaker 1: in the shootout, ECAC rules dictate that in women's hockey,

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Speaker 1: Nicole Hasey, who confirmed that the EAC the AC system

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Speaker 1: We got to take a quick break, just enough time

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Speaker 1: get ready for Maggie.

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Speaker 1: She's a contributor to Yahoo Sports, focusing on women's sports

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Speaker 1: and the Olympics, with pass stops at Bally Sports, the

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Speaker 1: Athletic USA Today, the Olympics website, and six seventy The

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Speaker 1: Score in Chicago. Her work as a writer, editor, and

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Speaker 1: her undergrad at Maszoo and her master's at Loyal University.

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Speaker 1: She sews clothes, quilts, and and bakes cookies for her

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Speaker 1: fellow journals. Mom to Sally, the Dog, Lover of Cycling,

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Speaker 1: at least seven hundred and fifty days of sore cheeks.

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Speaker 2: It's Maggie Hendrix.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Maggie, Hi Sarah, thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: That is two many days of sore cheeks in my book,

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Speaker 1: But I commend you on your efforts. First things, First,

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Speaker 1: Master of Arts in religious education at Loyal I did

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Speaker 1: We know that your cookies are a thing of lore

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Speaker 3: going to get to experience some of that.

435
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: Weird connection where they unspoken which we might get to

436
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: see on the court, assuming that they stay in each

437
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,959
Speaker 1: other's good graces, which does seem like it'll be an

438
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: interesting thing to balance all season long for head coach

439
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: Corey Close Feisty. Those two couple good contests that are

440
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 1: coming up this Saturday. First, we've got USC versus SC

441
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Freshman stand out Jossey Davidson just helped the

442
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: Trojans to a big win over number nine NC State.

443
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: She had twenty one point shit the game winner.

444
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Speaker 1: Meantimes, South Carolina has kind of coasted through the games

445
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: early in their schedule, they've been gimmes.

446
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Speaker 2: What are you looking for in this one? That the

447
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: battle of the scs.

448
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Speaker 3: Well with Jesse Davidson. I'm really looking to see if

449
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 3: she can she can kind of come down after such

450
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 3: an exciting win and see and that was just her

451
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 3: second game in college. It's still she looked so calm

452
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: and mature. She made that game winning basket. It's a

453
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: normal cut to the basket. Sure, let me make this layup,

454
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: and it didn't look like a freshman out there. And

455
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Speaker 3: see if she can if she can keep that going,

456
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Speaker 3: and also seeing how London Jones can keep contributing because

457
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: she was a huge part of that win too.

458
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Speaker 1: Yeah, London Jones transferring over from the rival UCLA hops

459
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Speaker 1: across town to usc and has been big. And of

460
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Speaker 1: their first two games same day Saturday, we've got Michigan

461
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: versus Notre Dame. That's a rematch of their second round

462
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: game in last ye's NCAA tournament.

463
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Speaker 2: What should we watch for in this one?

464
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Speaker 1: I am fascinated to see what becomes of Notre Dame

465
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: this season.

466
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Speaker 3: I am just as fascinated because it kind of feels

467
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 3: like this is a make or break season for Nei

468
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: l Ivy that she needs to get something done and

469
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: get a team pass to Sweet sixteen. And I was

470
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Speaker 3: I was at that game last year when Notre Dame

471
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Speaker 3: in Michigan played, and it was such a fun environments,

472
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 3: such a good fun game, and I was thinking about, like,

473
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: how these two teams are going to match up. It's

474
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Speaker 3: going to be a very different game. It's very It's

475
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 3: not the same Notre Dame team. So we're going to

476
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: have to see Hannah Hidalgo really own the team and

477
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: own the game. You know, we talk about like the

478
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 3: balanced attack for other teams, that's not what Notre Dame

479
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 3: needs to be. It needs to needs it needs be

480
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: Hannah's game. And at the same time, on the other side,

481
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: we're going to get to see Silas Swords play as

482
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: a much more mature player, more experience. It's funny to

483
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: say more experience though, because she came into Michigan as

484
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: an Olympian who had just gotten back from Paris and

485
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: then went to ann Arbor, So you know, I mean,

486
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: it's funny to think of her, but I do think

487
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 3: we're going to get to see her take more ownership

488
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: of the team. She had some great seniors last year

489
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: who have graduated, like Jordan Hobbs, so now they've moved on.

490
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: So we're going to get to see some players, see

491
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Speaker 3: how Silah really owns the team, and we'll get see

492
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 3: even some great matchups between those two. I'm excited because

493
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: I also really enjoy how Kim Barnsarico has been running

494
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: that program at Michigan and how she's been kind of

495
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: doing that, building slowly but building a lot of loyalty

496
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Speaker 3: in making sure her team stayed together. So I'm excited

497
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: to see just not just this game, but also what

498
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Speaker 3: Michigan continues to do.

499
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Speaker 1: In your preseason Bold Predictions column, you've got Duke going

500
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Speaker 1: to the Final four. They did drop opener to Baylor,

501
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: but plenty of season left. What do you like about

502
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: Carol Lawson squad?

503
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Speaker 3: I like that, First of all, you want to talk

504
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Speaker 3: balanced attack. I mean, she's having a hard time figuring

505
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: out exactly what her starting lineup is because she has

506
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 3: so many good players. Toby Fournier could be a starter,

507
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 3: she could not. You know, there's a lot of there's

508
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: a lot of movement between that, but I think that

509
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: depth is what I find so exciting. If God forbid

510
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 3: they have an injury, if they have some player who

511
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: can't play for a couple of weeks, they have enough

512
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 3: players to keep pushing it forward. And you know, we

513
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 3: keep hearing, we've heard kro Lawson's her viral thing about

514
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: learn how to handle hard better. Now this team has

515
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: been together for a few years, they played under her

516
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 3: for a few years, and I feel like that's what

517
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 3: we're going to see from them, is that they're going

518
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 3: to be a team that can handle the adversity.

519
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Speaker 1: Yeah, transfer portal has fundamentally changed college sports and hoops

520
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: in particular. And while I am definitely all for player

521
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: empowerment and the ability for them to choose their career

522
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: and how it looks, I do agree with some folks

523
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: that I think the first transfer should be a freebe

524
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: and any transfer after that should require a year of

525
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: sitting out first, sort of limit the amount of bouncing

526
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: around between teams. I think it makes things tough for coaches,

527
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: for other players, it makes things tough for the player

528
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: moving around. They never really establish an academic through line,

529
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: a sense of team, or a commitment to a program

530
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: and figuring out how to play through adversity, and I

531
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: especially hear that from a lot of older athletes who say,

532
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, you've got to be able to fight through

533
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: some of that stuff instead of just picking somewhere new.

534
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Speaker 1: What do you think about how the transfer portal has

535
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: affected women's college hoops and how it changes the landscape,

536
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Speaker 1: especially at the beginning of seasons like this where we're

537
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where everybody.

538
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: Ended up and who they're playing with.

539
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: I mean, we always need those reminders of like, oh wait,

540
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 3: she's there, Oh okay of starting the season. And I

541
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: agree with you about the second The second transfer is

542
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: a bit too much because I mean also, like you

543
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: and I are somebody people who really enjoyed our college

544
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: experiences and have a lot of loyalty to our alma maters,

545
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: and like you never get that. You never get that feeling.

546
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: So that is I agree with you. But I think

547
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: the way it really can change things is a team

548
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: can change on a dime if they get the right transfer.

549
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: And it also means that coaches have to almost like

550
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 3: continue to recruit throughout the season, and that to me

551
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: has to be a difficult thing for a coach to

552
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 3: have to do because sometimes you also have to be

553
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 3: hard on these players because that's part of coaching. So

554
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the interesting things is we're

555
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: seeing different kind of relationships be created with these between

556
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: the players and coaches, and I think the coaches who

557
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 3: have handled it best are the ones who have proven

558
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: to be adaptable in this. We're seeing how you know,

559
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: Don Sale will do tiktoks with their players. We're seeing

560
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: Geno Oriama like, we're seeing like almost like a softer

561
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: side of Geno come out where he will be the grandpa.

562
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: And you know, it doesn't strike me as somebody who's

563
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 3: truly concerned about the transfer portal, but at the same time,

564
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: like perhaps that's part of what has pushed this sort

565
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 3: of softer sided Geno out. Well.

566
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Speaker 1: I think we've had him on the show, and he

567
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: certainly talks about how generations of players are different and

568
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: what worked with previous generations does not work with the

569
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: current group, and so he's had to learn how to

570
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: be a softer jentler Gino. But he has not had

571
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: a problem with the transfer portal very much almost ever.

572
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Elena deladon Is I think the biggest example

573
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: of someone who originally was going to go there and

574
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Speaker 1: change her mind but I mean, even Don Staley, who

575
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: has a tremendous relationship with so many of her players,

576
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: lost big names in recent years, and so nobody's really

577
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: immune to the itch to go somewhere else. And the

578
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: question is is it sometimes the best choice for a player?

579
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

580
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: Is it sometimes potentially a rash decision made out of

581
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: anger or frustration. And there's a lot to be learned

582
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: and gained by sticking in a situation that isn't perfect.

583
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: The other thing I've been looking at in terms of

584
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: the changing landscape is if the new WNBACBA gets passed

585
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: and the rules change around player eligibility, you have to

586
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: wonder if women's hoops might begin to suffer from the

587
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: same one and done problem that happens in the men's game.

588
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't get attached to men's college

589
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: basketball the same way up until the tournament and then

590
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: just for their brackets, because the players aren't in the

591
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: game long enough for fans to really get to know

592
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: them and want to watch them.

593
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: A lot of want and done.

594
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Speaker 1: That's been a big part of driving up numbers in

595
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: the women's game in recent years is being able to

596
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: follow storylines and teams year to year and get really

597
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: excited when a season starts up to pick up where

598
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: you left off. Are you worried at all about how

599
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: the potential change to eligibility might impact the success and

600
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: that line that we've seen go straight up in recent

601
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: years maybe not continuing to go straight up in terms

602
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: of viewership, attendants, all that stuff.

603
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think one of the things that

604
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: had been happening with the WNBA and women's college basketball

605
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: was a rising tide lifts all boats everything. A player

606
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: stays four years and then she goes to the w

607
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: so we will get to follow her continually. I think

608
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: it is going to change things, and it might come

609
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: to a point where instead of everybody working together to

610
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: raise all of women's basketball, there is going to be

611
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: some you know, just the two fighting each other, which

612
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: will be a shame because while I do think it's

613
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: the most fair thing to allow players to go when

614
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: they think they're ready, I also think that there's not

615
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: a ton of players who have been ready before their

616
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: junior year. There's maybe Brienna Stewart, Page Beckers, maybe Caitlin Clark,

617
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: but she.

618
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Speaker 2: Was I think Jewe Lloyd made the right move.

619
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Speaker 3: I think Jewe Lloyd. Yes, but there's not a ton

620
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: of players who recently. Maybe a Leah Boston would have been,

621
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: but like, physically, not a ton of players were ready.

622
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: They had not hit the weight room nearly enough. And

623
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: we see that with a lot. We always joke about

624
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: the welcome to the league moments with the rookies, but

625
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: they're a real thing because and the reason we don't

626
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: see as many of them as their sophomore their second campaigns,

627
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: it's because they have hit the weight room and they

628
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: are a little bit ready, more ready for those hits.

629
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Speaker 3: But I think physically it's something that needs to really

630
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: be If the CBA is going to allow that, they

631
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: need to put a lot of safeguards in and kind

632
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: of like the same thing that the NBA and the

633
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: NCAA finally put in place to where if you get

634
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: an you don't get an agent. You see how things go.

635
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: That to me would make a lot of sense if

636
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: they do that from the beginning.

637
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Speaker 1: It's almost so hard though with the timeline it's such

638
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: a quick turnaround it is to decide if you're going

639
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: to commit and then if you don't get drafted or

640
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: how that works. And I think also beyond just being

641
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: physically ready. Even though there are more teams and more spots,

642
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: even though the pay is better and will be hopefully

643
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: with the new CBA even better, it is still a

644
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: real risk to leave college without a degree and try

645
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: to enter a league that is so limited in terms

646
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: of players that stick, and then have the rest of

647
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: your life.

648
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: You know, you can go back to school.

649
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: But I think it was really to protect players for

650
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: a really long time, and I don't know that the

651
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: dynamics have shifted so much now that that protection isn't

652
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: still necessary.

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Speaker 2: But I do think to your.

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Speaker 1: Point, we shouldn't limit women athletes in a way that

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Speaker 1: We should allow them to make their own decisions and

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Speaker 1: hope that they have the right advisors around them. Before

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Speaker 1: we let you go, I have to talk about Olympic

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Speaker 1: sports quickly, because you've been on our show before actually

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Speaker 1: delivering a voice note about a figure skating story. We

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Speaker 1: know that you're big in the Olympic sports. About three

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Speaker 1: months out from Milan Courtina Games, what are you most

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Speaker 3: I am really excited about figure skating as usual. I'm

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Speaker 3: excited because we actually have American women to be excited

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Speaker 3: about Alyssa Lou, Amber, glenn Is Boa, Leavito. They are

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Speaker 3: some really exciting skaters who can compete for gold. And

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Speaker 3: like I said earlier this year, a Lisa Lou, her

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Speaker 3: just doing things with his body that I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: anybody ever figured any human could do. He's doing six

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Speaker 3: quad jumps in one for four minutes and forty seconds,

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Speaker 3: and he's delivering six quad jumps and he's able to Also,

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Speaker 3: he has really improved down the artistry and the other

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Speaker 3: parts of skating too, so he's not He was a

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Speaker 3: one note skater for a while and he's not anymore.

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Speaker 3: So figure skate is exciting. And I gotta say the

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Speaker 3: is completely unethical of me, and I'll take it, is

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Speaker 3: Alana Meers Taylor, the bob sletterm. Sure you know Alana,

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Speaker 3: she's a bob sledter, she's a mom to two special

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Speaker 3: absolutely give you the shirt off her back. She's going

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Speaker 3: for her fourth Olympics. She doesn't have any gold medals,

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Speaker 3: and man, there's anybody I want to walk out with

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Speaker 3: a gold medal, it is Alana Myers Taylor because just

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Speaker 3: because she's if they gave gold medals for being great people,

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Speaker 3: she would have like eighty.

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Speaker 2: Of them and for long term greatness.

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Speaker 1: She's just been in the game for a long time,

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Speaker 1: dominating in so many different ways, but looking for that gold.

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Speaker 1: Incredible human great I love that that shout out, all Right,

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Speaker 1: any other athletes or storylines we should be getting to now,

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Speaker 1: we're keeping tabs on now with a couple months to go,

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Speaker 1: I think keep.

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Speaker 3: An eye on speed skating and Aaron Jackson. She was

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Speaker 3: we have to keep an eye out for the best

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Speaker 3: skater Britney bow and Olympic hopefully Olympic hockey player Hillary Knight.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you might be hearing from them on this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tmsa versus Team Canada Women's Talkie is some of

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