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Speaker 1: Welcome to Game Day Live Preview podcast. It's prime time

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Speaker 1: when JD five likes to shine. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about how we stopped Micah Parsons, got some schemes, got

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Speaker 1: some ideas for you, and there's a lot of hot

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Speaker 1: takes out there. Are they hot or are they not?

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Speaker 1: Let's get into the weeds. It all starts right now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Game Day Live Preview Podcast. I am

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Speaker 2: Jason Johnson aka just a Guy Jack Jason, and I

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Speaker 2: am here with one of my friends and one of

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Speaker 2: the smartest football people I know, Logan Pawson.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Logan?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely your friend. I don't know if I'm one

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Speaker 1: of the smartest football people you know. But it's good

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Speaker 1: to be doing this show with you. I love always

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Speaker 1: anytime we can do like content together is great.

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Speaker 3: I love doing Tick to the Draft with you.

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Speaker 1: This will be awesome to kind of preview the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay game and I guess most of the road games

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Speaker 1: for the season.

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Speaker 3: Is that what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we're doing. And if people don't know

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Speaker 2: my voice, we've done Ticket to their Draft podcast together.

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Speaker 2: We really dive deep into the whole draft process. Once

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Speaker 2: a Combine, Roll Around, Senior Bowl and all that. I

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Speaker 2: love doing that podcast with you, but basically, I'm just

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Speaker 2: a producer. That's here. I produce Command Center Podcast a

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Speaker 2: couple of other things along the line with you, Logan,

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Speaker 2: and just for so maybe you heard my voice if

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Speaker 2: you're listening here or there, But I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: offer any analysis. I'm not a former football player. I'm

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Speaker 2: not as in depth as you are. I'm just here

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Speaker 2: to toss you some softballs so you can hit these

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Speaker 2: things out of the park. Really let our fans know

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Speaker 2: what's going on the night before the game. Logan, you're

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Speaker 2: out in Green Bay. You get to be on the

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Speaker 2: sidelines for these games, so to really just get that perspective.

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Speaker 2: And you are one of the smartest football people I know, or.

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Speaker 3: You know a lot of smart football people.

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Speaker 1: I think on the last show, I didn't you have

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Speaker 1: why You're like Gary Clark and be Mitch and you

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Speaker 1: know a bunch of kind of really smart dudes talking

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Speaker 1: about the Giants game, right right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And that's another thing I want fans to know.

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Speaker 2: You may be hearing my voice. And last time you

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Speaker 2: listened to an episode come out on this channel, it

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Speaker 2: was Brian Colbert Junior with Gary Clark, be Mitch and

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Speaker 2: London Fletcher three Super Bowl winners right there. So it's like,

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Speaker 2: why is just a guy Jason on here? And it's like, well,

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Speaker 2: they're traveling, right, They're off and they're coming from all

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Speaker 2: different directions to get into Green Bay. So for away games,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be you and I logan and we're

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Speaker 2: going to be more nuts and bolts, really getting into

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Speaker 2: the weeds. I'm going to ask you a lot of

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Speaker 2: questions on like how to stop what's going on in

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Speaker 2: Green Bay? A really true preview show. But those guys

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Speaker 2: are live at DC Prime during home games the night

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Speaker 2: before and they're going to talk about their experiences as

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Speaker 2: football players with the team, super Bowl stuff in relation

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Speaker 2: to a game day preview. So it's two different styles,

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Speaker 2: but on one channel. So away games you'll get us,

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Speaker 2: Home games you'll get them, and they'll also be on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: We're not on YouTube. No one wants to see my

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Speaker 2: ugly mug, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about all that, man anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's a great show and excited to preview

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Speaker 1: the Packers.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, that's way too much of me talking already.

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Speaker 2: Let's get you up and running. So I'm going to

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Speaker 2: pull the string here and see, let you just go.

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Speaker 2: Our first thing is called stop that, all right, And

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Speaker 2: really all I all I want as a fan is

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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something I'm worried about, and

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Speaker 2: then you tell me how this team is going to

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Speaker 2: stop that, or or the way you would anticipate Cliff

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Speaker 2: with DQ stopping that. Okay, So the first one is

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Speaker 2: the one on everybody's mind. It's Michael Parsons coming in Glad.

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Speaker 2: We're not getting to play him twice a year and

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Speaker 2: First four seasons for Michael Parsons, he has a twenty

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Speaker 2: one point three pass rush win rate, a nineteen point

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Speaker 2: he is a dominant player. That's the context. Logan, how

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And just for some more context on that number,

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Speaker 1: I think the one thing coming out of the Detroit

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Speaker 1: tough draw. He gave up a sack again to Brian Burns,

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Speaker 1: And again I can now call as an offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about pass rushers and third down situations.

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Speaker 1: So I think those are the things that I think

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Speaker 1: in terms of things you can throw at it. Now,

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Speaker 2: What would you say is a win for Washington when

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Speaker 2: it comes to Micah Parsons. Are you saying, like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: if we hold him without any sacks, if we have

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Speaker 2: Because Michael Parsons is going to get his right so like,

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Speaker 1: Well, I think back to last year's games against Dallas

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Speaker 1: series of the second matchup is Michael Parsons has the

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Speaker 1: he had a couple of pressures, but they didn't really

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Speaker 1: So what I would say, as long as you can

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Speaker 3: He might even get a sack. Like that's totally fine.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the he's to me, the second best

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Speaker 1: to me, that's more disruptive to the offense. And so

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Speaker 1: some of the things we just talked about are really

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Speaker 1: good ways to do that. Staying out of third long

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Speaker 1: That means being more efficient on first, second down, And

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Speaker 1: everyone's going to say you got to run the ball.

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Speaker 1: I do think you have to run the ball a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But it's also like you know, Cliff does

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Speaker 1: we're going to change the launch point. We're going to

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Speaker 1: a good, good day, and as long as he's not

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Speaker 1: in the backfield in like one point two seconds, which

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Speaker 1: happened a couple times against Dallas, I think we're going

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Speaker 2: So my question is is there anything Jadeen Daniel specifically

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Speaker 2: does or can do that can help mitigate that as well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we talked about cadence, and like most

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Speaker 1: offenses that I'm in the quarterback, that's up to the

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Speaker 1: quarterback's discretion about when you use that. And obviously as

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Speaker 1: hey man, it's getting off the ball pretty good. Can

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Speaker 1: naked boot, We're not going to chase the running back down.

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Speaker 1: We're going to keep containing on the quarterback. You know,

438
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Speaker 1: Javon Kinlock. Can we win a one on one, which

439
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Speaker 1: you done in the first play of the game, Deron

440
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Speaker 1: Payn Can we win a one on one? But can

441
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Speaker 1: we do it in the context of the defense. And

442
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Speaker 1: I think when you see those guys do that last week,

443
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Speaker 1: that's something I think you definitely need to carry over.

444
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Speaker 1: So there's this saying, after everyone's familiar with it, you

445
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Speaker 1: know better than the sum of the parts. Defensive line

446
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Speaker 1: is like that, offensive line is like that. Those positions

447
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,680
Speaker 1: are like that more than any of the position on

448
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Speaker 1: the football field. And when you get four dudes in

449
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,480
Speaker 1: this case, we have eight dudes, which is kind of

450
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 1: cool that are playing the defense the way they're supposed

451
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Speaker 1: to play. At the ends are containing or the end

452
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Speaker 1: is stunting to the right gap based on the call.

453
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Speaker 1: It makes everything work behind it. And so one of

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Speaker 1: the things about the Giants that Giants game is compared

455
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Speaker 1: to other games that I've watched when covering the Commanders

456
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Speaker 1: is everyone's just incredibly consistent with the assignment and the technique.

457
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Speaker 1: And you can see that it helps Bobby Wagner be

458
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Speaker 1: in the right position. It helps, you know, Mike Sanders

459
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Speaker 1: still when he's kind of a fit because instead of

460
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Speaker 1: him having to, let's say, attack the B gap and

461
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Speaker 1: then the defensive lineman's in the B gap and now

462
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Speaker 1: he has to adjust and he's in a bad spot

463
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Speaker 1: to make the tackle, he can confidently go up and

464
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Speaker 1: do that. So I think just the consistency of the assignment,

465
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Speaker 1: sound nature of what of what they did against the Giants.

466
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Speaker 1: I hope hopefully that carries over because it really makes

467
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Speaker 1: the next everything in the defense function at a really

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Speaker 1: high level. And I think that's what I would to

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Speaker 1: see them do against Josh Jacobs. Now, green Bay is

470
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Speaker 1: going to make it challenging because they do some different stuff.

471
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Speaker 1: I mentioned the change of strength motion they on the

472
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Speaker 1: snap and with shifts. They also do some kind of

473
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Speaker 1: weird backfield stuff in terms of ball handling. Trust your eyes,

474
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Speaker 1: trust your fits. Look at the offensive line how they're

475
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Speaker 1: blocking it. I'd say to the second level players, linebackers, nicols, safeties.

476
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Speaker 1: But I think if they can, if the defensive line

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Speaker 1: can play the way they did against the Giants, they're going

478
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Speaker 1: to be a good spot.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Our next look at the green Bay offense is Jordan Love,

481
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Speaker 2: obviously a talented quarterback. A little context and a stat

482
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Speaker 2: that I want to bring up that I found when

483
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Speaker 2: researching was in the first half versts allions, that's when

484
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Speaker 2: green Bay was really cooking. They were targeting past the sticks.

485
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Speaker 2: When Love targeted past the stick, so he threw the

486
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Speaker 2: ball pass the first down markers. In the first half,

487
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Speaker 2: he did out eleven times, had seven completions for one

488
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty two yards two touchdowns in a one

489
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Speaker 2: forty six point eight rating. That is excellent throwing past

490
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Speaker 2: the first down marker, keeping your team on schedule, keeping

491
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Speaker 2: the drives alive. How do we stop that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be a little bit more challenging.

493
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Speaker 1: I think the thing about Jordan Love is he's very

494
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Speaker 1: confident throwing the football. I mentioned this on the Command

495
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Speaker 1: Center podcast, Like when you watch him, man, he can

496
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Speaker 1: spin it. He's a good athlete spin the football, has

497
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Speaker 1: multiple arm angles he can throw from. He's got this

498
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Speaker 1: really snappy release from the wrist which is great to watch,

499
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Speaker 1: and the ball takes really like flat trajectory, so it

500
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Speaker 1: gets there really really quick. In terms of stopping that,

501
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Speaker 1: to me, can we get some ball production?

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Speaker 3: Right?

503
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Speaker 1: So he's very confident. But if you watch that Detroit game,

504
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Speaker 1: Detroit drops two interceptions like two, like one in the chest.

505
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Speaker 1: One would have been tougher, but like one definitive interception,

506
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Speaker 1: And that's an easy way to kind of shift the

507
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Speaker 1: football math, to shift the analytical math right there. Right, Yes,

508
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Speaker 1: he's very good. He's going to get some throws, right,

509
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Speaker 1: He made some really tight window throws in the red zone,

510
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Speaker 1: made some tight window throws in the field, And really

511
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Speaker 1: his performance is the difference in the game, because actually,

512
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Speaker 1: I didn't feel like the Green Bay offense played all

513
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Speaker 1: that well, specifically in the first half. I think they

514
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Speaker 1: were carried by their defense and they were carried by

515
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Speaker 1: him finding these kind of shot plays down the field.

516
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Speaker 1: So first off, I'd say, he's going to get those.

517
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Speaker 1: Can you weather that adversity, and then can you button

518
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Speaker 1: down the hatches in the red zone like they did

519
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Speaker 1: versus the Giants. I think that's a totally reasonable thing.

520
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Speaker 1: And then when he throws you the football, you have

521
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Speaker 1: to catch it, which is also something I think is

522
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Speaker 1: very reasonable given the ball production we've seen from guys

523
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Speaker 1: like Mike Sanders, still, Trey Amos.

524
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Speaker 3: Juan Martin in camp.

525
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Speaker 1: So that's kind of what I'd say, is he's going

526
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Speaker 1: to get some whether that storm when we get in

527
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Speaker 1: the red zone, let's batten down the hatches, take care

528
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Speaker 1: of that stuff. And then when he does give you

529
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Speaker 1: the opportunity, we got to get the ball and give

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Speaker 1: it back to our offense.

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Speaker 2: All right, Logan, time for our last segment that I'm

532
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Speaker 2: going to let you get out of here because I

533
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: know traveling is never all that fun and you're exhausted.

534
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Speaker 2: You're one of the heart as working men in football

535
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 2: right now. You do so many shows, Logan, how many

536
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Speaker 2: shows do you do a week?

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Speaker 1: You think, I don't know, a lot of shows. It's

538
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Speaker 1: definitely getting more. Yeah, i'd say probably like six to

539
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Speaker 1: eight ish. Does that sound right. I mean you produce

540
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Speaker 1: all most of them, so you would know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot. I ask you to do a lot.

542
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Speaker 2: And uh man, you're just really good at this. I'm

543
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Speaker 2: learning so much and we've talked so much about the

544
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Speaker 2: week and I'm still learning something. But that's going to

545
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Speaker 2: lead me into the next segment here. It's our last segment.

546
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Speaker 2: We'll do this every time we're on. And the reason

547
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Speaker 2: I made this segment, Logan, it's called hot or Not,

548
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: and it's because I think what I've learned about you

549
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: is that you love a skits and bits. You do

550
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: enjoy skits and bits, but you also are very level

551
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: headed and you never really get caught up in a

552
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: hot take. You just don't and I love that about you.

553
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 2: So what I'm gonna do is I'm going to throw

554
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Speaker 2: out what are some hot takes that are floating around

555
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: out there? Just okay, none of these are mine, Logan,

556
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Speaker 2: Please don't get mad at me. I'm just repeating what's

557
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Speaker 2: going on. One in the ether, right, like I've heard

558
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: out there before. And the first one is the penalties, right.

559
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,239
Speaker 2: There were twelve penalties for eighty nine yards in that

560
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Speaker 2: Giants game. I even saw a comment in one of

561
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Speaker 2: our shows saying if you do that, there's no way

562
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Speaker 2: we're winning Green Bay, which may be true, but then

563
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Speaker 2: the statement after was, or rather the statement was, we

564
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Speaker 2: were sloppy, therefore we'll losing Green Bay. I mean, is

565
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Speaker 2: that true? Like in the sense of, like, obviously penalties

566
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Speaker 2: that's gonna hurt. But what I mean is, are you

567
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Speaker 2: concerned that we're going to continually have penalties like this?

568
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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: And I think this is the classic like Week one

570
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Speaker 1: overreaction element, Right, this is the first time we've seen

571
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Speaker 1: the team in a long time, and this is the

572
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Speaker 1: first this is our first instinct, right, Oh, like, this

573
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Speaker 1: is who they are for the entire year and good, good,

574
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Speaker 1: well coached teams. Excuse me, which I think the commanders are.

575
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Speaker 1: I think Dan Quinn's a smart guy. I think Joeah

576
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Speaker 1: Junior is a smart guy. I think Cliff Kingsbury is

577
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Speaker 1: a smart guy. As they know intuitively the same way

578
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Speaker 1: fans know that they cannot continue to win football games

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Speaker 1: if they have twelve penalties in a game. So I'm

580
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Speaker 1: very confident that that's going to be a point of

581
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Speaker 1: emphasis this week. And some of those penalties that they

582
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Speaker 1: got in the game, I think it's important to make

583
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Speaker 1: this note, are effort based penalties, right, Like I'm just

584
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Speaker 1: trying too hard, or I'm targeting the quarterback in correctly

585
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Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Right, how do we clean that

586
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Speaker 1: stuff up. We go to the film room, we watch it,

587
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Speaker 1: we make the correction. We've got a smart, conscientious team.

588
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Speaker 1: They're going to figure it out now. With regards to

589
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Speaker 1: some of those other stuff like pre snap penalties, holding

590
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Speaker 1: things like that, those are things that again holding, I

591
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Speaker 1: think we can kind of.

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Speaker 3: Get that resolved in the film room.

593
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Speaker 1: But the pre snap stuff and stuff we've got to

594
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Speaker 1: get cleared up, you know, the intentional grounding. It sounds

595
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Speaker 1: like there was a mental mistake or miscommunication between the

596
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Speaker 1: offensive line and the receivers and the quarterback. We're not

597
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Speaker 1: on the same page. That's getting more reps together, that's

598
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Speaker 1: getting more time on the grass. So I think it's

599
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Speaker 1: going to be a point of emphasis to get corrected.

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Speaker 1: And again, yes, the fans or the whoever's making that

601
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Speaker 1: common is correct. If you have a lot of penalties

602
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Speaker 1: versus good football teams, usually you don't win. I, however,

603
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Speaker 1: am fairly confident that dan Quinn, Cliff Kingsbury and Chilwood

604
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Speaker 1: Junior know that also and are going.

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Speaker 3: To work to correct that. So that's kind of my

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Speaker 3: take on that.

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Speaker 1: And so am I concerned about it if they go

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Speaker 1: out and have twenty penalties against Green Bay? Yes, that's concerning.

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Speaker 1: But do I think that the staff knows it's concerning

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Speaker 1: and they're going to try and correct it. I think

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Speaker 1: that's also true.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Logan, last year in Week two, we had the

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Speaker 2: Commanders had ten penalties for sixty nine yards playing the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Now Washington won that game, but I remember that being

615
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Speaker 2: a talking point. That's a lot of penalties. Guess what happened.

616
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Speaker 2: We went out the Monday Night Football, another primetime game

617
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Speaker 2: against the Bengals, and we had three penalties for twenty

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Speaker 2: eight We tend to clean.

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Speaker 1: That up well, I think the other thing I'd say too,

620
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Speaker 1: is like, that's the nature, having been on this side

621
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Speaker 1: of it now for a couple of years, is you

622
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Speaker 1: need talking points for the week, So that becomes the

623
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Speaker 1: talking point, it becomes the narrative, it becomes the story.

624
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Speaker 1: And again people forget. I think people are like people

625
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: forget how smart staffs are, how smart players are. Like

626
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: a right post game, like, what's the first thing all

627
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: the players are saying like, oh, yeah, we got to

628
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Speaker 1: get that cleaned up.

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Speaker 3: The penalties, we can't handle that.

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Speaker 1: So everyone's aware of it, and if people have an

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Speaker 1: awareness to it, they can get it corrected. And I

632
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Speaker 1: think that's what I'm banking on. Don't let the twenty

633
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Speaker 1: four don't let the twenty four hour, twenty four to

634
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Speaker 1: seven NFL news cycle get you cut up.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be fine. I think they get

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Speaker 3: this fixed. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the things that happens with NFL

638
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: news cycles is that if a team wins, then the

639
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Speaker 2: immediate thought is, well, that's what this team is to win,

640
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: and if they lose, it's like, well that's what this

641
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: team is to lose. And what I mean by that

642
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: is whatever that most recent win is. It's like there's

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Speaker 2: no variation. It's like, oh, that's it. It's very absolute,

644
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: like that's how that team's going to be. But if

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Speaker 2: you listen to every press conference after that win, for

646
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Speaker 2: our players, with our coaches, none of them were happy

647
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Speaker 2: with the overall. None of them went, yep, that's our

648
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: best ball right there to win. But nobody's sitting out

649
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Speaker 2: there and going, yeah, this is us now. No, they

650
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: all talked about things that they needed to get better at.

651
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Speaker 2: Because it's week one, they're going to be better. Week two,

652
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: they want to be better Week three, and hopefully the

653
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: last game of the season in February is the best

654
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: version of the Commanders And they all think like.

655
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I know, I think that's one hundred percent right.

656
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: And I think that's the other thing about you know,

657
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: like NFL football and it's week one too.

658
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 3: That's the other thing.

659
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: It's like for you know, people who haven't done it,

660
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: it may be hard to understand, but you come in

661
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: and you're doing all this prep, you're getting ready to go,

662
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: and you think, oh, we did the preseason, Oh we're

663
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: in a good spot, we had a good training camp.

664
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: But there's something different about the live bullets and playing

665
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: a game for sixty minutes.

666
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: Like, I don't care how much preseason you do. It's

667
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: just different.

668
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: The speed is different, the intensity is different, the complexity

669
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: is different, and so I assume that there's going to

670
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 1: be some issues. Right, There's going to be some mental mistakes,

671
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: there's going to be some technical mistakes. There's going to

672
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: be some procedural mistakes like we saw with the penalties,

673
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of par for the course, and there

674
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: are teams that don't do it right, but at some

675
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: point you're going to have those opportunities right to kind

676
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: of make those mistakes as the season goes on. So

677
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: it's just to come out a Week one with a win,

678
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: not playing our best ball is really encouraging for me

679
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: to see what this team could be.

680
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: Obviously, Week two against the Green Bay Packers.

681
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: Man, you're fired up. I can tell that this gets

682
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: you excited for whatever reason. That talking point. So that's

683
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: not hot for you. I mean it's got you hot,

684
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: but it's not a hot takes not hot, that's all right.

685
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: The next one is Terry McLaurin. He only had four

686
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: targets for two receptions twenty seven yards. It was great

687
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: to see him out there. Some people are freaking out

688
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: about this. What's your take?

689
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not freaking out about it. I mean,

690
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: so if he catches one pass in that game, if

691
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: he catches that deep ball, him and Jade are on

692
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: the same page, Like it's he's got two catches for

693
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: seventy eight yards and maybe a touchdown. Like it's that's

694
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: the nature of playing receiver. Like aj Brown had one

695
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: catch the other day, but he only had one target.

696
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: That's more concerning to me. Obviously, Terry is like a

697
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: feature of the offense. He's going to be a feature

698
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: of the offense moving forward. He had a slow start

699
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: last year against Tampa Bay. I think he had one

700
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: catch in the first half or something like that, and

701
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: then he had that big kind of completion down the

702
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: sideline or what they missed. They missed on a deep

703
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: ball down the field in the first game last year

704
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: as well. So I'm not that concerned about it. This

705
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: is kind of what happens to receivers at times. Receivers

706
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: and quarterbacks in terms of relationship, you're just not quite

707
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: on the same page. Again, Like he didn't do a

708
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: lot of the offseason and they're kind of banking reps

709
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: at the moment. So I think that's understandable. So I

710
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: think it'll get better. I think he's going to be

711
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: a feature of the offense. And I don't think people

712
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: are talking about this. If he catches two more of

713
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: his targets and again one of those like the tackle

714
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: gets pushed into his lap, the ball's a little short,

715
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: they have to go to review to see whether it's

716
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: a catch or not.

717
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: Like, think about it.

718
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: If he catches just two or three more passes, like,

719
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: his stat line's completely different, and people totally forget about it.

720
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: So all right, the next one hot or not? Take

721
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: Thursday Night football. It's a quick week. We're in a

722
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: tough spot. And the reason I'm saying we're in a

723
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: tough spot in not Green Bay is here's to talk point.

724
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: Here's the hot take. We're the ones traveling. We lose

725
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: time for travel to game plan, to practice. We lose

726
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: the energy. Like you know this logan, Traveling is not fun.

727
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: It's not like waking up in your own bed, getting

728
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: in your own car to drive into work. Right, it's

729
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: just different. So like we're put in a tougher spot

730
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: than Green Bay does. Thursday Night games in your opinion,

731
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: being the traveling team for that, you've been in that

732
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: situation before, I'm sure is that a something we should

733
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: be concerned.

734
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: About, something we should be concerned about.

735
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I get concerned about things that I can control,

736
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: right and as a team, can you control this?

737
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: You're the road team this week, so what they got

738
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: to figure it out? Right? So that's what I'd say too,

739
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: is like people get I've worked up.

740
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: You know, people that I coach, people that I talk

741
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: with about things, they can't control I as much as

742
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: it makes it challenging to go on the road on

743
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: a short week to Green Bay, which is kind of

744
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: a tough travel because there's not a big airport. You

745
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: got to be in the bus for a long time,

746
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: all those types of things. But the game's going to happen.

747
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: So what are we going to do. We're not going

748
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: to show up, We're not going to play in the game.

749
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: No, we got to go. We gotta do it.

750
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: So like, as this is how the schedule works out

751
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: this week, I have no control over it. As a player,

752
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: the staff has no control over it. The best thing

753
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 1: is to kind of work to get as prepped as

754
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: you can. The first thing Dad said to us when

755
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: we were in the locker room. I was hanging out

756
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: with fletching Brand when they're getting ready to interview him,

757
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: and he goes like Wednesdays tomorrow, like it's happening, Like

758
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: we got to get ready, we got to kind of

759
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: get our mindset worked up. And this is the nature

760
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: of having a game on Thursday night. As a player,

761
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: it was incredibly stressful for me because I felt like

762
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: I was never prepared. But again, that's when the game is.

763
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: I have to figure out to make a way to

764
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: make it work. And I think this staff Dan specifically

765
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: because I've talked to him about it. I'm sure if

766
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: I talked to Cliff, you'd say the same thing, or Joe,

767
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: would you do the same thing. It's like, there's a

768
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: reason that this mantra for this team is anybody, anytime, anywhere,

769
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: It's because that's the mindset you have to have in

770
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: the league. It can't be like don't give yourself an out,

771
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, don't be like, oh, we're on

772
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: the road, this is going to.

773
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: Be really hard. How are we going to do it?

774
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, No, It's like this is where this

775
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: is where this is where the game is, this is

776
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: where the this is where it's going down, and.

777
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: We got to be ready to go regardless. So is

778
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: it a thing? Is it more challenging? Sure? But does

779
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: it matter? No? Can I control it? No?

780
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: So ultimately, like, yes, there is some truth to that,

781
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: but as a player, you can't open that. You can't

782
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: even think about that, because that's just not if you

783
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: want to win the game, you got to keep it.

784
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: You got to keep yourself competitively moving forward, all right.

785
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: The other one, then that I already know what you're

786
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: going to say about, because it's outside your control. It's

787
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: the lambeau Field effect, right, the home field advantage. Lambeau Field,

788
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: especially being one of the iconic home field advantage stadiums

789
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: in the NFL. It's going to be fifty seven degrees

790
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: at game time, at least that's what my phone app says.

791
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: Do you think any of that matters at all or

792
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: will have an effect on the game or are you

793
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: happy it's like, great, let's do this in September not December.

794
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I probably like playing in lambeau earlier

795
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: in the year because it's not like the frozen tundra,

796
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: like it gets cold up there man late in the year,

797
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'd prefer to play them earlier. I've had

798
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: a preference just worked out that way. Playing in Lambo

799
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: is awesome. I really think it's a cool environment, like

800
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: there's kind of an historic element there. But there are

801
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: challenges to playing on the road, right, it's going to

802
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: be noisy. The fan base is really smart. They know

803
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: when to cheer when not to cheer, and it's going

804
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: to make communication difficult. But again, like this, that's what

805
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: you're doing, that's the game. We got to make that

806
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: thing go. So I think it's kind of cool. I

807
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: think it's cool, cool experience. For the guys who've never

808
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: been there, it's gonna be awesome Thursday night's primetime game.

809
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: There's lots of things to be used for Some guys

810
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: actually prefer playing on the road because the atmosphere provides

811
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: some energy to the process and maybe for a Thursday

812
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: night game on a short week, that's a little bit

813
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: of push that pushes you over the top.

814
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: So does it matter that we're on the road.

815
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of cool, and I think some

816
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: guys will actually play better being this the first road

817
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: game on Thursday Night. I think about Jaye Daniels playing

818
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati last year, Like, that's a tough trip, that's

819
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: a tough, tough environment to play, and they think they're

820
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: going to be good. That was That was a bumping

821
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: environment there. But you get the best version of some

822
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: players in that situation. So, you know, six and one

823
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: half dozen in the other whatever you want to say,

824
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: there are good there are pros and cons to both,

825
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: and I just think you just got to go play

826
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: the game and put your best foot forward.

827
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

828
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: I was actually talking with Fred Smoot about this the

829
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: other day and he told me that he loved playing

830
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: in historic places like it actually juiced them up. So like, yeah,

831
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: the crowd's going to be loud, they're gonna boo. But

832
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: he would tell himself, they're just saying smooth. But he

833
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, playing at Lambeau that gets you juiced up.

834
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: It's you don't even think about home field advantage at

835
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: that point, he said, I mean that's that was his mindset.

836
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: It's like to him, that's just that's getting them juiced

837
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: up to play some football. It helped them the play

838
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: at places like that, So yeah, home field advantage. I

839
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: think sometimes like we kind of get caught up in

840
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: I get caught up in it. I'm sitting there thinking like,

841
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: oh man, they're going to be so loud and all that.

842
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: But some players just live for that, like you were saying.

843
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's gonna be great, Like think

844
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: about this, like this is what you play for?

845
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: Are these moments.

846
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: It's a primetime game early in the season against the

847
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: playoff caliber team who looked really good against Detroit. Like

848
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: the defense looked great again, the offense looked okay, but

849
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: they have enough playmakers to be dangerous. And I think again,

850
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: that's a playoff quarterback. That's playoff defense. They have playmaker,

851
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: they have it's playoff skill position. Guys, we think of

852
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: ourselves as a playoff team. The nation's going to be

853
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: watching like this is a great opportunity. So yes, there

854
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: are some challenges to it, and it's not one hundred

855
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: percent fair all the time, but that's life. So let's

856
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: go play this thing and let's shock the world and

857
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: win a road game in Lambeau. That's gonna be great,

858
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: great way to start the season.

859
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what logan the last question? Then what is

860
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: it good? Are we winning this game? And if we do,

861
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: what is it going to.

862
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: Take I like to think so.

863
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: I again, like one of the things you talked about

864
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: is like with the Giants, like, did we play our

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Speaker 3: And I don't think we did, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we played our best ball against the Giants,

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Speaker 1: And so I think if we play a better version

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Speaker 1: of what we did week one, I think that's the

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Speaker 1: first thing, and that's an expectation that I have for

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Speaker 1: this team good. The other thing is we talked about

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Speaker 1: the disguises of the defense. We talked about their ability

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Speaker 1: to stop the run and what I would say, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about handling the environment offensively one.

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Speaker 1: I think going on the quick is going to help

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Speaker 1: with all three of those things. And it's great that

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Speaker 1: our offense is built that way. We can have nonverbal communication,

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Speaker 1: we can get up on the ball quickly. Because I

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Speaker 1: mentioned how smart the fan base is, you lose some

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Speaker 1: of those indicators, like there's no huddle, So as a fan,

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Speaker 1: like when do I start cheering? Do I start cheering

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Speaker 1: when they're at the line of scrimmage and they're standing

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Speaker 1: around and kind of pointing at each other and they're

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Speaker 1: kind of doing their muddle huddle at the line of scrimmage. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to like burn myself out. So they do

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Speaker 1: all this stuff on this silent they're used to those

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Speaker 1: nonverbal elements. I think that's going to be a huge factor.

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Speaker 1: Finding creative ways formationally to make sure that they're not

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Speaker 1: letting those two middle linebackers Cooper and Walker just be

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Speaker 1: tremendous athletes and run right down down hill into your

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Speaker 1: running game, right, So finding ways to spread guys out,

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Speaker 1: Cliff does a great job of that. Find ways to

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Speaker 1: create handy in the backfield. Cliff did a great job

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Speaker 1: of that Week one, to run the football, and again,

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Speaker 1: can we find some more explosive opportunities down the field

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Speaker 1: With Jane Daniels being a little bit more consistent as

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Speaker 1: a passer, the relationship with Ari improving, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's one way to win the game. You flip side

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Speaker 1: to that, it's like, can the defensive line throw the

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Speaker 1: same pitch they through last week? It seems very reasonable

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Speaker 1: to me because if they play that way, they can

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Speaker 1: stop the run, force Jordan Love to beat you. And again,

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Speaker 1: I think Jordan Love's a good player. The one thing

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Speaker 1: I would say is he's not afraid to throw the

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Speaker 1: football in the tight windows, and we've got guys in

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Speaker 1: the back end with good ball skills. Can you give

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Speaker 1: us a couple if he can? Like the decks tipped

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Speaker 1: in our favor. So I think finding a way to

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Speaker 1: get some turnovers, which starts with stopping the run, I think,

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Speaker 1: and then offensively handling the environment and handling the athleticism

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Speaker 1: of the Green Bay defenses in the disguises. But we

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Speaker 1: just talked about. I think there's ways that Cliff is

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Speaker 1: aware of that the staff is aware of to manage

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Speaker 1: that stuff. So I think, yes, I think they can

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Speaker 1: win this game. I hope they win this game. If

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Speaker 1: they do that stuff, I think they will win the game.

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Speaker 2: Logan, thank you so much. You do so much for me.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it as far as like content. And

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Speaker 2: then you're just like I called you my friend earlier.

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Speaker 2: You once picked me up from the airport. That's a

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Speaker 2: true friend. Thank you so much. Because whenever anybody asks

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Speaker 2: for airport rides or what like moving furniture, those are

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Speaker 2: like two of the things.

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Speaker 3: It's like a friend.

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Speaker 2: Nobody likes doing either of those things. But I ask

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Speaker 2: you for the airport because you live right down the

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Speaker 2: street from it, and everybody else I know lives far away,

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Speaker 2: but you did it. We're best friends.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The next time anybody's gonna listen to Logan on this

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Speaker 2: will be the next away game we have, So that

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Speaker 2: will be I think three weeks from now. It's a

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Speaker 2: while away, but on this channel on Saturday the twentieth,

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Speaker 2: before the Las Vegas Raiders, that's when you will hear

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Speaker 2: Gary Clark, b Mitch Brian Colbelet Junior. They'll be live

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Speaker 2: from DC Prime. You can catch that on YouTube as well.

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Speaker 2: Catch Logan wherever he's at. Logan, you got a bunch

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Speaker 2: of podcasts. You're on I know, you're on Take Command.

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Speaker 2: You're also in the Commands podcast for us. You're on

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Speaker 2: the Film Breakdown, You're on Command Center, You're on this.

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Speaker 2: You get on Game Day Live every now and then.

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Speaker 2: So just subscribe to the Commander's YouTube channel or wherever

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Speaker 2: you get our podcast. You will hear an abundance of Logan.

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Speaker 2: And it's just gems every time, Man, every time I

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Speaker 2: talk to you, it's just little tiny gems. I love it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Man, appreciate it. This is a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to doing this throughout the year.

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Speaker 2: Have fun out in Green Bay. Let's go get that dope.

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Speaker 3: Let's go get that dope.