WEBVTT - Tate Frazier Loves Giannis and Hates Duke 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:08.479 From the King of Sports Books comes the Key sports 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:19.439 podcast Unleashed, presented by MGM. Here's your host, Janice Pampas 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:29.240 and Olivia Arland Decker. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, everybody. This is 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.040 Unleashed by bet MGM, the King of Sports Books. And 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.000 we made it through our first weekend without NFL games. 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.160 It was weird. Of course, we had the All Star 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.480 Game to keep us entertained a little bit. But as 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.760 a many people know when we talked about the Pro Bowl, 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.160 when we talk about All Star games, sometimes it leaves 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.000 you wanting a little bit more. I've got to say 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.760 congrats to my dad calling the first All Star Game. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.280 He went back to back weeks, back to back Sundays 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.240 calling the Super Bowl, then the All Star Game. That 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.560 was really fun to watch. Janice, what did you think 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:03.080 of the actual game? The game was enjoyable. I enjoyed it. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.240 I mean I watched it sober. Probably unlike you, you're 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.920 on vacation, all your siblings are there. I'm sure you 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:13.640 guys are throwing back your cosmos and your dirty martini. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.240 Did you forget him seven months pregnant? You honest? Yeah? 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.720 But you're also Olivia Harland Deck or that never stopped 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.800 you before. Yes, never stopped anyone in your family line. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:30.280 You're true. The Cosmo count is getting out of control. Yeah, 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.560 and I still don't believe that that was a virgin 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.360 shooter in Vegas. I I saw you drink it and 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:41.480 I saw it poured. Young lady, you were drinking alcohol. Yeah, 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.639 it's like four weeks pregnant. That give me a break. Okay, Plus, 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.400 next big event on the sports calendar. You honest, I'm 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.000 so excited to switch gears here a little bit. It's 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.800 March Madness n C Double A men's and women's basketball tournaments, 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.760 or as you say, tournaments you're Northeasterner. We've got a 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.600 great guest joining us to help you get to help 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.240 us get ready as everyone fills out their brackets. He's 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.520 from Fox Sports and the Tightest and Tape podcast. It's 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.520 Tap Fraser. He's gonna be joining us. I'm excited about that, 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.040 very exciting. And as always, we got bet MGM betting 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.919 expert Peter Andrew joining us to discuss the latest in 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.160 the world of betting lines in the second half of 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:23.400 the NBA season. Olivia, if you thought I'd handled you 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.080 in picking NFL games, just wait until you go, until 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.880 we go head to head picking NBA games, I'm basically 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.840 the Michael Jordan betting on the NBA, except Michael Jordan's 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:39.680 is probably the Michael Jordan's of betting on the NBA. Now, 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.280 that was good. That was good. I don't know, be honest, 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.400 I feel pretty confident in my NBA knowledge. Well, you know, 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:48.520 I'm not sure. I think you're gonna be a little 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.160 clouded because apparently you're in Atlanta Hawks fan. Now I 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:53.960 didn't know that because you worked for them. You're in 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.160 the landa Hawks fan. And who are you a fan 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.760 of in the NBA? Is it the Hawk? Well, okay, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.160 I was gonna preface this before we really get into 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.640 NBA talk, because you gave me hell all season for 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.720 having two NFL teams, and guess what, I got two 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:13.440 NBA teams. Of course, of course, you know what, Sam, 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:15.120 I don't know if you listen to the show, but 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.800 she may have another boyfriend somewhere. Actually, I think I 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.200 have three NBA teams. So the Hawks. I worked for 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.720 them for three seasons. Love the Atlanta Hawks. We went 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.680 to back to back Eastern Conference finals while I was 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.120 their sideline reporter. Just saying, and then I married Sam 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.520 when he was with the Houston Rockets and that's who 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.360 drafted him. So Houston is kind of one of my teams. 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.000 That's where we met fell in love. I love the 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.440 Rockets and then the Bucks because you know we're Wisconsin people. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.280 And what you're not gonna think about, you, honest, is 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.120 the whole Atlanta coaching staff when I was there like 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.120 twenty fifteen ish, they are all with the Milwaukee Bucks now. 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.440 Mike Budenholzer, the head coach, was the head coach of 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.000 the Hawks. So those are my guys, the whole staff. 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.840 So yeah, I've got three NBA teams. What do you 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:03.080 think about that? I think I have a question is 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.760 what I think about that? Have you ever thought about 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.120 running for political office? Because I switched all the time? 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.680 You are? Yeah, you love everybody, everyip. You are a 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.520 flip flopper. Yeah you are. You have no loyalty. All 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.919 you want to do is get elected. And I liked it. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.480 To answer your other question, my boyfriend's name is Rodrigo. Okay, 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.960 before we get to the second half of the NBA season, 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.680 let's talk about what went down in Cleveland during All 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:39.960 Star weekend. It's time to unleash. Let's a It's all right, Olivia. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.440 Everyone always complains about the Slam Dunk Contest, but I 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:49.200 gotta say this year, I finally have had enough. And 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.640 I'm sure I'm not the only one. I think we've 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.320 all had enough, all right. I actually changed the channel 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.560 because my wife wanted to watch Love Is Blind on Netflix, 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:03.279 and believe it or not, I enjoyed that more so, 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.800 Thank God for my wife. That's the only time I've 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.920 ever enjoyed whatever she wanted to watch, because that's how 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.960 bad the Dunk contest was. And what a fall from 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.160 grace are we talking about. I grew up in the 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:18.760 era with Dominique and Jordan's and spud Web and the 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.360 Great White Hope of Brent Barry, the only Barry kid 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.640 who could jump. I mean, this is just getting sad 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.520 right now. And it's such a big part of what 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.080 the fans love about All Star Weekend, and we just 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.839 aren't seeing anything original anymore. The participants are. They're missing 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.880 half their attempts. I give this whole contest a three 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.480 and a half out of ten. I'm holding my card 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.680 up right now. I do not understand why the big 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.279 names won't do it anymore. It should be like Adam 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.360 Silver should force them to do it. I mean, this 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.119 is for the fans. Just do the dunk contest. Where 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.880 was John Moran? Where was Miles Bridges? Where was Anthony Edwards? 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.400 I mean, this is ridiculous. And Lebron, if this is 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:02.240 your home coming to Cleveland, want to finally participate in 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.440 a dunk contest and win it at thirty seven, thirty 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.799 eight whatever you are, Okay, just by entering you probably 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.000 would have won, just because of they wanted to do 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.000 something for Cleveland. The dunk contest used to be where 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:18.320 we saw the absolute best Jordan's Like I said, Dominique 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:22.359 Finch Carter, who can forget that? No disrespect to one 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:26.240 Scando Anderson, but you should have had to have a 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.880 dunk in a real game to be able to enter 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.120 the dunk contest. So Adam Silver, please bring me in 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.320 for a brainstorm. We need to fix this. America loves 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.479 the dunk Contest and we need to make it great again. 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.960 How about even Zach Lavine, Like there were players who 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.640 were participating in other things that I have been in 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.440 the dunk contest before that should have been in it. 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:52.600 I'm with you honest. That is spot on hot take unleashed. Okay, 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.920 I want to switch to college basketball because you guys know, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:07:00.120 there was a madness that happened well before March. It 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.880 was this weekend in Madison. It was crazy. The Michigan 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.360 at Wisconsin basketball game on Sunday. Wolverines head coach Jowan 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.880 Howard he didn't like that Wisconsin called an unnecessary time 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.920 out at the end of their loss. It was actually 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.880 two time outs in the last minute with a huge 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.000 Badger lead, and in the final minute of the game, 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.600 Wisconsin was up fourteen and coach Guards substituted in his 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.280 walk ons and Michigan still had starters on the floor. 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:30.119 So Coach Howard thought that that was disrespectful. Coach Guard 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.720 tried to explain to him at the end that you know, 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.800 they didn't want to have a turnover. He was using 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.240 it as a teaching moment for these young green players, 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.280 So you can understand both sides. And Joan Howard was 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.240 very honest at the end saying he didn't like that 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.520 tensions ran high, players got involved, people laid their hands 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.280 on each other and it was a bit of a mess. 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.440 And my take on this is that at the end 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.600 of the day, these are the head coaches, and this 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.680 is college basketball. I know tensions run high. I know 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.760 there's a lot of emotion and passion in these games, 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.360 but I think these coaches have to be an example 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.200 for these young men. I know I sound like a 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.480 pamphlet for the n C Double A, and I apologize, 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.840 but I just feel like everyone has to keep their cool. Now, 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.800 Greg Guard did pursue him. Howard didn't even want to 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.840 talk at the end, and Greg Guard pursued him. So 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.600 this was a tricky one. Coach Howard was suspended for 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.360 the rest of the regular season, that's five games. He 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:30.000 was fined forty dollars. A couple of players on both 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.600 sides were suspended one game. Coach Guard at Wisconsin was 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:37.000 fine ten thousand dollars, which the university is going to 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.720 be paying. They are not putting that on him. So 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.440 do I think John Howard is entirely to blame. No, 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.680 but I don't think under any condition that a head 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.640 basketball coach at the college level should try to punch 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.959 or slap an opposing coach. Now, I love it when 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.240 the headline came out it said an open faced punch, 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.120 And now I'm a girl and I've got sisters, so 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.600 I know exactly what that means. That is how we hit, 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.760 and it's it's a slap. I don't know why we're 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.760 calling it a punch, but an open handed punch is 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.520 all that really went down here. But it was a mess. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.319 It was a mess on the court, and I think 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.280 there's no place for it in college basketball. I gotta 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.800 be honest. I loved John Howard, know him well. I 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.600 love the Wisconsin basketball program, know them well. But I 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.960 think this escalated way too far. And I think, again, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.199 for the third time, I'll say it in the college game, 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.440 you are very much molding young men. I know that 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.840 sounds very cheesy. Most of these guys are not going 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.800 on to play professional Most of these guys are going 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.440 on to enter the real world with the rest of us, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.840 and I just think there should be a better example. Well, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.079 you know, I love the unleashed, but I gotta say 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.000 this is one of the few unleash. So I'm gonna 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.200 disagree with you. I love that, I wanted to see more. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.079 I wanted to see more. I thought they should have 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.000 let him go just shoot the fair one, let the 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.280 two go at it as far as working for a 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.240 betting company, I would have put my money on Juwan Howard. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.800 He would have definitely won that fight. And I blame 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.240 I don't blame Juwan Howard. He was pursued. Hands went 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.319 on him. He's a former Fab five member, you know 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:14.160 what I mean. He wanted to throw hands. He could 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.720 take the fine. He's one of the most overpaid players 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:20.200 in NBA history. So I remember that huge contract he's got, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.320 so I mean big deal. I think they should maybe 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.120 fight on the Jake Paul undercard. Let's see what happens. Well, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.040 you know his opinion. I do want on this, although 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.160 I do appreciate yours. Honest is Tate Frazier. No one 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.280 knows this game like him. I'm sure he has an 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.160 opinion on this. Let's go ahead and bring in Tak Frazier. 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.720 He graduated from North Carolina with a degree in bracketology. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.600 He's one of the best college hoops experts in the business. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.640 He bleeds the Carolina Blue. I think his favorite song 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.000 is one Shining Moment too. That's yet to be confirmed. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.760 From the Rightis and Tate Podcast. Tate Fraser, Welcome to 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.960 the show. Oh thank you so much, Olivia it's great 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.400 to be here, and yeah, that was a great injury. 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.440 I love when I can bring North Carolina, you know, 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.200 up to the forefront. So that's a good day for me. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.040 I appreciate that. To be fair, I think you've got 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.040 the best colors in college basketball. But don't tell my husband, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.000 don't tell anyone. I said that that Carolina blues the best. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.920 I'll take that. That. That's one thing we got right now. Now, 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.280 just to make sure you're a true North Carolina fan, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.480 have you ever gotten into some sort of gang warfare 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.199 with Duke students when you were there, like any type 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:38.240 of socia versus you know, the Greasers. Did that ever 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:39.800 go down where you guys had a fight at a 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.400 kick party? I was a part of the Managers game 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.959 my senior year. Duke Managers played Carolina Managers and in 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.720 Chapel Hill they played and Ryan Kelly, who played on 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.520 obviously the Duke team. His brother Shaun Kelly, was a 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.640 manager and there was a fight that night. When I 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.240 was at that game, one of the few people that 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.439 was there. I was not a part of the fight, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.400 in fact that I was yelling to try to break 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.360 up the fight. But Duke is something that I hate. 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.160 You know, I say that I had. You know, there 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:07.800 are two types of people in this world. There are 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.280 Carolina people and Duke people. That's kind of how I 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.240 I view the world. And uh, you know, I respect Duke, 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.920 but I also hate do so we have that in common. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.040 I to hate to. But actually let's stick with that 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.839 with the violence you were just referring to, because there 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.040 was a big story this week with Michigan Wisconsin Juan 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:31.240 Howard being suspended for the rest of the season. Fine 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:35.400 and his antics made a lot of headlines this week overall. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.440 What's your take on this? Wow? Yeah, I mean it's 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.800 a very loaded situation obviously. I mean, anytime a coach 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.360 touches anybody in that way, it's obviously a big drama. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.040 So the first reaction, the first waiver reaction, you saw 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.880 a lot of people say that, you know, Juwan Howard's 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.160 gonna get fired. I thought that was a bridge too far. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.120 But I also, I mean, you cannot act in that way. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.800 But also there are rules to the game, and there's 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.520 you know, quote unquote rule of engagement and Greg Guard 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.000 you know, when you touch somebody, the rules of engagement 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.440 saying like once you put your hands on somebody, all 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.240 bets are off, especially if you've ever played basketball and 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.400 bid in one of those lines. When someone touches somebody, 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.280 you know, things go awry. So I don't think it 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.200 was a very one sided thing. I think as soon 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.680 as Greg Guard put his hands on Juwan Howard, now 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.640 we have two guys that have implicated and instigated a 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.360 situation and they're supposed to be the leaders. And I 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.480 think that's really what it comes back to. We need leadership. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.920 There is not a lot of leadership in college basketball. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.480 There's not a lot of leadership in college in general 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.599 right now, in my opinion, So you need guys like 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.920 Juwan Howard and Greg Guard. I mean, luckily after the game, 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.000 we've seen the press statements and they both kind of 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.240 you know, made their you know, especially Juwan Howard. He's 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.600 apologized and made sure that he you know, he seems 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.680 remorseful and all that sort of stuff. But I would 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.800 like to see Wisconsin also say something just to you know, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.439 to be the bigger be the bigger man in the situation. 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.280 Right That's my only thing. I think that both it's 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:04.240 good show leadership and in class moving forward because we 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.160 know what the Big Ten is That's what their mantra is. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.920 We are at this classic conference, we are legends, we 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.319 are leaders. Let's be legends and leaders in this situation 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.360 and move forward in the right way. But he's got 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.080 his punishment, and I think it was deserved. But I 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.640 don't know if it was. I think maybe great guard 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:23.200 gets one game, two games, because you know it was 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.200 it wasn't just the Juwan Howard lost his mind situation. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.840 He tried to walk by. He did. I watched it live. 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.600 I was texting my dad. I said, Juwan Howard is 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.680 not a happy man right now. And you know, obviously 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:38.320 from there was fireworks. Yeah, all right, Well we're just 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.360 a few weeks away from the conference tournaments. Uh you 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.120 just mentioned the Big Ten. Lots of teams on the bubble. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:48.320 Which conference are you most excited to watch? I mean, 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.080 I'm excited for you know, the Big Ten is always interesting. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.520 I hope Indiana gets into the tournament. I'm a big 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.400 Mike Woodson guy. I love Woody. I think he's uh 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.360 one of the best people in basketball, so I want 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.360 him to make the tournament, so I'll be pulling for him. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.000 I'm a North Carolina guys, Olivia told everyone. So they're 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.640 twenty and eight, but America has decided they're on the bubble, 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.840 so I have to, you know, have my guard up, 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.120 so to speak. As we get to the a SEC tournament, 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.760 they need to win probably two games to secure their spot, 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.280 so I'll be watching that. I'm a sucker for the 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.560 PAC twelve. I live in Los Angeles, so I I 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.720 still believe in U c l A. A lot of 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.960 people have jumped off the bandwagon, but I am not. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.120 I know this is a tournament team and I know 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.040 they have their mindset on the tournament. So I'll be 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.720 watching how they look. Are they inform as they get 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.680 to the PAC twelve tournament, So that'll be interesting. And 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.560 then Titus and I will be at the Big East 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.320 tournament for Fox, so we'll be on the ground, boots 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.960 on the ground. And uh, I love St. John's for 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:41.920 some reason this year in the Big East. I think 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.560 in the tournament they're gonna make some noise because they're 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.680 gonna be playing basically at home. Obviously in MSG nice. Yeah, 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.320 there was a lot of hype for the Bruins. You 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.960 mentioned earlier preseason. Another team that always has a lot 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.160 of hype and I hope you take any bias out 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:56.960 of this is the storyline of Coach K and the 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.920 Blue Devils. Think, yeah, it is. And it's kind of 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.960 exhausting as a viewer, I think every night to have 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.960 to see this. But Duke's twenty three and four, their 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.040 seventh in the country. Do you think they're built for 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.520 a Final four run or do you think they fall 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.080 flat a little bit after this exhausting farewell tour. Well, 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.440 we all remember John Wooden in his last season wins 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:21.160 the national championship. So Coach K is trying to repeat 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.200 that and make sure that he leaves on top just 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.120 like John Wooden did. Because ultimately, Coach K cares about 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.880 Coach K being remembered as the best coach of all time. Right, 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.080 That's what his entire that's what he is. That's what 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.920 he has used Duke as a vehicle for his entire career. Right. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.400 So this is the final, the final show, This is 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.440 the curtain call, so to speak, spell with K's obviously, 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.440 and I'm fascinated to see how it plays out. I 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.000 don't see a world in which Duke's not in the 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.440 Elite eight. And then from there, you know, we'll see 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.040 how how because you need a little bit of luck 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.200 obviously to win a title. We all know that Duke 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:58.920 showed us that. Um, so I agree. I think I 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.960 think that they have a great shot to do it 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.520 this year because of a J. Griffin, because of window More. 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.480 I think Ben Carroll gets a lot of credit for 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.240 this team. But there, Mark Williams, window More and a J. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.359 Griffin are really, you know, kind of the motor. So 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.640 I could see Duke winning at all. That's why I'm 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.280 knocking on wood and uh, you know, trying to be 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.800 as good of a person as possible so that God 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.679 does not let that happen. No bias in that answer. 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.360 Do you think we'll see coach K on the sideline 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:27.680 again Olympics? I think we'll see him on the Duke's sideline. Yeah, 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.000 I think he's gonna be. I wouldn't be shocked if 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.080 Carolina beats Duke in his last home game, you know, 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.160 this year. I wouldn't be shocked that Coach K came 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.280 back for one more year. I really would not be 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.360 shocked because he has to leave on his own terms, 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.159 so he has to win a title. He has to 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.520 beat Carolina twice, maybe three times. If they meet in 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.199 the tournament, So he's got a lot of things he's 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:49.679 got to check off. You know, if if this is 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.400 the movie bucket list, you know with Jack Nicholson, coach 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.720 k has gotta check off a lot more things before 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.119 he leaves the game. I think speaking of teams that 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:02.760 have traditionally had a lot of d sent white players. Uh, 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.960 Gonzaga is currently the favorite at plus four hundred to 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.880 win it all. Is this the team that finally brings 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:15.240 a title to Gonzaga? Mm hmm. Look, I have always 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.960 believed in Gonzaga. I think they could have won. I 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:19.800 think they could have won in seventeen, the year that 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.520 Carolina beat them in the title game. Obviously, I thought 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.200 last year the pressure of being undefeated was really tough 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.760 for them, especially with no fans in the crowd. Drew 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.760 Timmy is Christian lightner light you know what I mean, 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:36.760 he really Chris, he has to win a title. I 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.920 feel like a Gonzaga he feels like one of those 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.960 guys that's almost destined. This is his last run. Chet 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:43.720 Home Grins probably gonna be the number one pick. So 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.159 if there was every year for Gonzaga and they're kind 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:47.800 of under the Radar this year, which I like. Even 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.000 though they're number one in the country, people have kind 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.840 of decided they don't believe in them anymore, which is 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:54.680 a good spot to be when you get to March. 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.920 So I could see Gonzaga cutting down the nets. That 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:58.840 wouldn't shock me, and I'd be happy for Mark Few 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.879 he deserves it. Yeah. Yeah, it's felt like this has 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.440 been brewing for a minute. The last year. The Big 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.359 Ten really struggled in the tournament after a lot of hype. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.119 Is there a conference that you're already thinking you'll probably 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.320 stay away from in terms of filling out your bracket. Honestly, 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.560 the Big Ten really burned me last year because I 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:19.040 believe everyone. Yeah, I don't know why I believe so 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.159 much in Illinois. It's not like I have any reason 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.520 to but Trent Frasier maybe because we have the same 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.040 last name, I felt like a and Chester Fraser is 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.199 on the staff. So I don't know. The Big Tin 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.600 always worries me because Perdue in Illinois have the best 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.879 chance to win the title, I think in that conference, 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.160 and both of those teams are very volatile and they 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.800 can beat anybody, and they also lose to anybody. As 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.680 we've seen a few times this season, So the Big 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.440 tin definitely worries me. And then the a c C 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.360 is just so down this year that I mean, Duke 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.520 is really the only hope that they have as a conference. 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.879 Wake Forest is back, Carolina is on the bubble. You know, 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.280 Duke's really the only one that I could see making 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.720 a final four in reality. So I would not bet 0:19:57.720 --> 0:19:59.720 on the a SEC in the tournament if I were 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:04.560 a adding man myself here that you honest, I'm taking 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.359 notes right now. You just mentioned per Due their plus 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:11.560 eight hundred. What about other teams, Kentucky's plus seven fifty, 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.000 all burn at plus a thousand, any of these odds 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:17.880 you like? I like Kentucky. This feels like a Kentucky 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.399 year to me, or ten years from the Anthony Davis 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.800 run where he basically dominated by being a physical force, 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:27.200 you know, on the boards, defensively, offensively for that team 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.119