Speaker 1: On today's episode of Command Center Podcast, we are reviewing
Speaker 1: the Ravens game with a fun game called Yes. And
Speaker 1: then we are previewing the Carolina game. Can't wait to
Speaker 1: watch Frankie Lubu and Jeremy Chin get after those boys.
Speaker 1: And then is the stadium going to be sold out
Speaker 1: and buffing this week?
Speaker 2: Dam Green Knight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, hell yeah. It all starts right now, and we'll
Speaker 3: go on into the Command Center Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss
Speaker 1: and guys home game this weekend. We're gonna preview this
Speaker 1: game in a little bit. But if you want tickets
Speaker 1: to this game, tickets we have a ticket promo, right
Speaker 1: and so if you put in Logan sid or Santana puts,
Speaker 1: it's a promo code gets a discount. And we're trying
Speaker 1: to win. It's a competition between the three of us. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't expect to win this game, so it's really
Speaker 1: a competition between Fred and Santana.
Speaker 4: But my name is it in the words to Fred
Speaker 4: already put four letters in there, Already.
Speaker 1: Early returns around and he's winning.
Speaker 2: Shock. Appreciate you again.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is offense, sales tickets, defense winning.
Speaker 1: Champion or is it just he is he's like more
Speaker 1: famous football player.
Speaker 2: It's just that he played the offense. Man y'all already
Speaker 2: built in to be more showed me it's my name, bro,
Speaker 2: just let it be my name like that.
Speaker 1: It's like a cool name. It is a very cool name. Santana.
Speaker 1: Is it like a family name or no?
Speaker 2: My mom got it from my auntie. She wanted girls
Speaker 2: and she didn't have a girl. So my auntie was like, name.
Speaker 5: Of santanareal man bush?
Speaker 1: Really name Fred?
Speaker 2: It's a preacher, so the right ones on the wall
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 4: Yet after mind like yeah, name of Fred, let's put
Speaker 4: no energy into this.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: And then James, what about you?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've asked my mom like why did why?
Speaker 1: I think I think my probably my grandpa's name was James. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not. I asked
Speaker 1: my mom a bunch of times like why, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: We just was lazy because no one calls me James. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like, if you call me James, I know you don't
Speaker 1: know me.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you're trying to get something.
Speaker 2: I ain't your name with James A couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I knew it with James Sweet James.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've obviously got a unique middle name, which we'll
Speaker 1: say for a different time, time and place. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so make sure you sign for those tickets and use
Speaker 1: our names. Yeah, because we get prizes. I don't know
Speaker 1: we get we don't get anything, but yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: get tickets.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So Baltimore game, let's review that real quick, high level
Speaker 1: thoughts on that game.
Speaker 4: A Lei Foreman heavyweight bout. People lead with black eyes,
Speaker 4: but it has to be a winner. Uh, Coach, you
Speaker 4: said they didn't want to say the word measuring stick,
Speaker 4: so I won't say it either. But uh, they are
Speaker 4: in a super Bowl window, and if you're ever going
Speaker 4: to measure yourself against the team, they add the team
Speaker 4: to measure yourself again, like.
Speaker 1: You did that. It was like, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: use measuring state, but then I turned around and used it, right.
Speaker 4: But I just felt like it was one of those
Speaker 4: things where I think everybody was not shocked by the outcome.
Speaker 2: They were shocked by the process, how it happened, how
Speaker 2: we got there and lost by seven. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you like this, I was kind of nervous going into
Speaker 2: the game. Honestly.
Speaker 5: I didn't, you know, I understand that we kind of
Speaker 5: been playing. We had We've been on one of those
Speaker 5: roads you know of lately, four games in a row,
Speaker 5: playing out of their mind when it comes to just
Speaker 5: the points alone that we're scoring offensively, and I was like,
Speaker 5: here's the defense that will kind of put you back
Speaker 5: in your place, like make you, you know, put your
Speaker 5: foot in your mouth, so to say. And bro, like
Speaker 5: the first two series, first of all, getting the turnover.
Speaker 2: That first that first D said everything. I was like,
Speaker 2: I came to play.
Speaker 5: And then the offense go down there and you saw
Speaker 5: players here and there, and you say, okay, we got
Speaker 5: three points, and then you saw things settled down, and
Speaker 5: I was like, oh man, that defense, it's confusing me.
Speaker 5: I'm sitting up here, like what is going I'm seeing blisters,
Speaker 5: I'm seeing coverage. I'm like, and when you saw settle
Speaker 5: in there and continue to progress and make plays, I'm like, bro,
Speaker 5: these guys really do have something. They really have something
Speaker 5: special they do, you know, going into the game, nervous
Speaker 5: a little bit like I was playing like I've been
Speaker 5: in those games where I'm a player and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't know about it.
Speaker 5: I'm always optimistic, but that game, I wasn't confident. I'm
Speaker 5: not going to sit here a lot to you. But
Speaker 5: after I watching them play the first half, I knew,
Speaker 5: I say, you know what, you know what I've been
Speaker 5: seeing the last few weeks.
Speaker 2: It's real, and I just love what happened.
Speaker 5: I didn't like the outcome because I wanted us to win,
Speaker 5: but I was impressed, to say the least. I was
Speaker 5: impressed that we was able to go out there, and
Speaker 5: I was more impressed to what Terry said afterwards, like,
Speaker 5: you know, folks want to sit here and say, hey,
Speaker 5: do you feel good because you got a chance to
Speaker 5: go out there and you show up the world that
Speaker 5: you can compete, Like we believe that already.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you know, we know what we've been doing,
Speaker 2: we know what we put in each other world.
Speaker 5: I'm happy that these guys have that already belief that
Speaker 5: they can go out there and win any game. It's
Speaker 5: not all were playing these guys. Let's go, you know,
Speaker 5: show them that we can play with them. No, they
Speaker 5: believe they can win every time they step out there.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting. Like when I left the game, I
Speaker 1: probably felt more akin to what you felt for oh,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's a good football team, like we
Speaker 1: should have. But after I watched the film, I was
Speaker 1: like mad a little.
Speaker 2: Bit because we left so much on a field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I look down the it was it was
Speaker 1: it was the third drive of the game. They go
Speaker 1: down and they're threatening. Oz drops that ball on second
Speaker 1: and ten that would have been a first down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's that PI on Saint Jude's on the third and ten,
Speaker 1: which was a little bit ticky tech. That's a field
Speaker 1: go there. They score at that point, it's three to six, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and then we go down and score a touchdown.
Speaker 1: So ten to six on Baltimore in Baltimore. So there
Speaker 1: was a bunch of plays like that, and then they're
Speaker 1: like when you watch the defense, for example, there was
Speaker 1: a couple of you know, mental mistakes on the same page.
Speaker 1: And Baltimore's offense is tremendous, but I thought, man, we
Speaker 1: really can't be having these self inflicted wounds. And then again, offensively,
Speaker 1: I thought Jane Daniels an excellent job and it was
Speaker 1: just and even him. Even there was some stuff early
Speaker 1: in the game. We were talking about this earlier Santana
Speaker 1: where it's I got his own read. It's a gt
Speaker 1: SO guard tackle from the offensive rider pulling l I'm
Speaker 1: reading the right defensive end as I'm looking at it,
Speaker 1: and he should hand it off because he's walks in
Speaker 1: for a touchdown probably, but wasn't quite SUBTL and didn't
Speaker 1: see it exactly right. You know.
Speaker 4: I think I got more upset by watching the defense
Speaker 4: when I realized they was running all those man beaters
Speaker 4: and they wasn't and they wasn't cutting it what we
Speaker 4: call cutting it, like meaning if you see this where
Speaker 4: I receiver lined up tight and he could go across
Speaker 4: the formation, I want the safety to come down and
Speaker 4: get that and I go replace him.
Speaker 1: I ask you, because like we got you here.
Speaker 2: I saw that a couple of times. I was just
Speaker 2: I was like, Tampa did did all this, and they're
Speaker 2: doing the same.
Speaker 4: That what I'm saying, So like me and my guys,
Speaker 4: if it was shunned t back there and then me
Speaker 4: and Bluefoot, now it's.
Speaker 2: Automatic with us.
Speaker 4: So I just I wish they would have graduated to
Speaker 4: that point where they said in the second half, let's
Speaker 4: go cut these because they're gonna continue to run them.
Speaker 2: They ran them the whole time, and it's smart for
Speaker 2: them to run.
Speaker 1: Talk about that real quick, because that's something really technical
Speaker 1: that you know you're smart to want to ask you about.
Speaker 1: It is. So the running all this heavy play action pass.
Speaker 1: The linebackers are up in the line of scrimmage, no
Speaker 1: middle middle, it's crazy, that's about us. Yeah, thirty yards
Speaker 1: by twenty yards wide open in the middle. What are
Speaker 1: some tools that could have been maybe implemented there to
Speaker 1: be like, hey, like you mentioned the.
Speaker 4: Cut, We're gonna cut the guy that's closest to the tackle.
Speaker 4: Let's say, if it's the ze and he closer to
Speaker 4: the tackle of the tight end, we cutting him, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So let's talk about that. So we in two
Speaker 1: by two.
Speaker 4: No, let's just say we in I for Masia. We
Speaker 4: got one receive on this side, one on the right.
Speaker 4: Whichever one of these guys is closer, and we're gonna
Speaker 4: cut him. Are we gonna cut the guy with the
Speaker 4: most feel? So whoever had the tight split, whoever got
Speaker 4: the tight.
Speaker 2: Split, that's who we're gonna come and cut.
Speaker 4: So before the play, I'm gonna turn around to my
Speaker 4: safety and I'm gonna say, yeah, he the.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna replace you, all right.
Speaker 4: So now what you think is open ain't gonna be
Speaker 4: over And.
Speaker 1: Then when do that in quarters us? But I didn't
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 4: And what I do like about that is the safe.
Speaker 4: I mean the quarterback rarely sees that safety go jump
Speaker 4: then round like they because they look at us and
Speaker 4: say and they look at us fall off.
Speaker 2: And they like, I got I got it. It's hot,
Speaker 2: I got this thing. And if we would have did
Speaker 2: it once, they wouldn't ran it no more. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's what bothered me a little bit too.
Speaker 5: You know, I think even even with all that being said,
Speaker 5: we were still stopping them. I mean, they was getting
Speaker 5: big games at the time, but defensively, we were still
Speaker 5: stopping them. And I think two drives, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 5: I know one for show. It was two drives that
Speaker 5: we literally stopped them on third down and gave them
Speaker 5: life with a penalty and they scored. If we get
Speaker 5: off the field those two drives, it's a different ball game,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Because our offense was answering
Speaker 5: so that's one of those things when you got to
Speaker 5: heavyweight back, like you say, I punched you, you punched me.
Speaker 2: Is who can take it the most?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: And I guess they was the last man standing because
Speaker 5: they took the most of them.
Speaker 4: And we just lost. I respect they flowers. I think
Speaker 4: he's a talent.
Speaker 2: You know, he ain't one hundred and thirty two yards
Speaker 2: in the first half.
Speaker 5: They asked me earlier in that game, how you stop?
Speaker 5: How you stop as they fly? And I said, asking
Speaker 5: me that as or what would be like asking stop me?
Speaker 2: You have to get me off my routes. You have
Speaker 2: to press me.
Speaker 5: It might not slow me, it might stumble me, make
Speaker 5: me get off my route. But you got to understand,
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson only have but so.
Speaker 2: Long to look at you. So if he sees me.
Speaker 5: Off my route because somebody's jamming me, even if I
Speaker 5: don't get past that guy, he's off me. Now he's
Speaker 5: going to the next guy or I or if he's
Speaker 5: sitting there waiting long enough, then he gets sacked.
Speaker 2: So I just felt like.
Speaker 5: Man, if we can just put hands on guys more often, bro,
Speaker 5: like I used to be mad. I used to be
Speaker 5: furious going home saying, man, why are you always pressing me?
Speaker 2: Now? I look back, say you the only way to
Speaker 2: stop you.
Speaker 5: I look back and say, you know what, I respect
Speaker 5: them because they respected me.
Speaker 2: They knew if I don't press.
Speaker 5: This dude, it's gonna be alone now. And I'm like,
Speaker 5: why we don't press more? Why we don't put and
Speaker 5: we're pressing. I'm not saying we're not doing our job.
Speaker 5: Those guys are playing the defense, so I have nothing
Speaker 5: against what they're doing.
Speaker 2: But I want the.
Speaker 5: Cornerback sometime to overcome coaching and say I got a
Speaker 5: jab this dude. In order for me to say my behind,
Speaker 5: let me put hands on them, because if I don't,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: You know this crazy thing about it, because I had
Speaker 2: the game plan against you before.
Speaker 4: When I played against the Vikas, we was a cover
Speaker 4: of two team cause we hit Mike tummy and get
Speaker 4: what every time Tanner came to the lab. We might
Speaker 4: be a covered too, but we pressing.
Speaker 2: You gotta press me.
Speaker 1: So let me just say this because I know a
Speaker 1: lot of fans are like, oh, why don't we press more?
Speaker 1: Why don't we play more tight coverage? And we got
Speaker 1: you know, dB here one of the best to do
Speaker 1: it for a long time. What what are some things
Speaker 1: fred reasons not to Because I always think, like from
Speaker 1: an offensive standpoint, if you're pressed, I know the coverage
Speaker 1: right now. And like one of the things that Lamar
Speaker 1: did a great job of in this game that really
Speaker 1: did a tremendous job of was that the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: identifying man in zone, checking them into I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was a run can pass type of situation,
Speaker 1: but understanding the coverage and getting the offense into man
Speaker 1: beaters or getting them into zone beaters. And when it's pressed,
Speaker 1: that's easier. But what are some potential if.
Speaker 4: You're gonna go priss man you saying I don't care
Speaker 4: about you knowing what I'm in, I'm like, that's the
Speaker 4: key about it. Like me and Champ Bailey was press
Speaker 4: mean corners, and we knew like once we got into
Speaker 4: our groove, we only gonna see certain matchups, like we'll
Speaker 4: see a lot of slot because we are press corners
Speaker 4: because they know if you put these two receivers on
Speaker 4: the same.
Speaker 2: Side, one of us force the bag off.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So the thing about it is, once you say I'm
Speaker 4: in the press man, everything else is out the window.
Speaker 2: Now the rush had to match us. You have to
Speaker 2: get home, though.
Speaker 4: They got to get home, and I need them to
Speaker 4: rush like, I don't want to press like I wait,
Speaker 4: I don't like the press.
Speaker 2: If you finish, if you're not sitting more.
Speaker 4: Than five six people like, then you waste them.
Speaker 2: You waited by one Mississippi, my two Mississippi. That's that's great.
Speaker 1: Because I will say that's one thing when you watch
Speaker 1: the film. Yeah, uh, there's a couple of players obviously
Speaker 1: that the corners get beat and nuts on them. But
Speaker 1: there's the play, the first high cross that Zay Flowers catches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if benat Juice could have been in
Speaker 1: a better spot, and the great job by Flowers are
Speaker 1: coming back to.
Speaker 2: Throw us there.
Speaker 5: I won't even knock him for even getting beat on them,
Speaker 5: because I think he was there, you know.
Speaker 1: But the thing that jumped out to me was because
Speaker 1: they were running so much play action Baltimore was they
Speaker 1: had you know, Patrick Riccard, who is basically an extra
Speaker 1: offensive linean like they get one on one on with
Speaker 1: the defensive end. The protection was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was back there. He took something, he had
Speaker 2: a t He told me to give some drink.
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess That's what I'm saying is like,
Speaker 1: obviously we want the corners to be more aggressive, but
Speaker 1: if the rush isn't there versus these play and so again,
Speaker 1: like this is one of the things that Baltimore did
Speaker 1: such a good job of is they had play actions.
Speaker 1: They ran the ball, they had play action pass off
Speaker 1: of it, they had excellent protection, and the play action
Speaker 1: pass really drew in those hook.
Speaker 2: Players because the run was effective.
Speaker 1: And so that's why I don't care how good you are.
Speaker 2: I say this like.
Speaker 1: That when that middle of the field looks like you're
Speaker 1: going to have a tough down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I say this if you had to ever look
Speaker 5: and say, how is a highly executed offense executed when
Speaker 5: they have the ability to run.
Speaker 2: The ball and throw it.
Speaker 5: Look at that because it shows you like, oh, you're
Speaker 5: gonna bring these guys in the box, so we're gonna
Speaker 5: show you what you want to see, and.
Speaker 2: Then we're gonna give you something differ.
Speaker 5: We're gonna hit you behind your head because you ain't
Speaker 5: gonna be in place. And they did it effectively because
Speaker 5: you had to respect to run first of all, you.
Speaker 4: Had to respect both of those guys this start there,
Speaker 4: it's ogre all right. He ran me over with my
Speaker 4: dreams last night.
Speaker 2: Listen to me when he comes downhill.
Speaker 4: You have brother choice, but some good dude man.
Speaker 5: And for him to run as fast as he does,
Speaker 5: if I'm gonna say I not, I give us credit
Speaker 5: because all I run him. All our corners came up
Speaker 5: and tackled this dude, and they was doing what they
Speaker 5: had to get their legs, get them, get them before
Speaker 5: he gets started.
Speaker 2: So I took my head off to those guys.
Speaker 5: We was physical, we went out there and then we
Speaker 5: had to do but as the game went on, he
Speaker 5: just leans on it.
Speaker 2: It don't matter what you do, bro, It.
Speaker 1: Was the whole front man was their old line. They
Speaker 1: got a big old line, goal line to Patrick Recards
Speaker 1: and Beast. They got a good blocking tight end. And
Speaker 1: then Derreck Henry getting down hill, It's like it felt
Speaker 1: inevitable that he was going to get his. But I
Speaker 1: think overall, we're we're pleased with the performance. We can
Speaker 1: be pleased because we're not playing right. We can kind
Speaker 1: of objectively and I'm sure that they and and that
Speaker 1: side of the well. And again, like I said, when
Speaker 1: I watched the film. I was frustrated, man.
Speaker 2: Because because you left too much out there and.
Speaker 1: It would have been close. And that's and that's in
Speaker 1: close games. That's what you know, how many close games
Speaker 1: you guys have been away? Like, man close? If we
Speaker 1: make this one, man, that's it. If we get this conversion,
Speaker 1: look a where we're at, like we can do this.
Speaker 1: So I think there's probably a little bit of a
Speaker 1: little bit of frustration there, all right, So now we're
Speaker 1: gonna kind of also use a fun segment to review
Speaker 1: some of fun to review some of the fan criticisms.
Speaker 1: It's called yes but and so the first one is yes,
Speaker 1: the secondary at issues. But Lamar Jackson and the Ravens
Speaker 1: are so good.
Speaker 4: But Lamar Jackson is on the Hall of First of all,
Speaker 4: he's a Hall of Fame future Hall of Famer. Second,
Speaker 4: he could win m v P this year the way
Speaker 4: he's playing. Again, I'm sorry so that, but they are good.
Speaker 4: It is a great scenario. We just played against one
Speaker 4: of the best, if not the best office because Kansas
Speaker 4: City Office is not clicking like they used to. So,
Speaker 4: yes that we got issues, But we just played a
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame quarterback and a Hall of fame running back.
Speaker 5: What's better than the butt? A big butt, I'll tell
Speaker 5: you like this right here, that one real man, because look, bro,
Speaker 5: honestly we went out there and we threw.
Speaker 2: The kitchen sink at them too. Yeah, I mean we
Speaker 2: went out there and we was dicing it up.
Speaker 5: And that's why I say I I'm weird Logan when
Speaker 5: he said that, I'm a little disappointed because I saw
Speaker 5: drives where like with my own eyes, like at the game, like, bro,
Speaker 5: just stop them.
Speaker 2: We just stopped them, now, just stop them. We just
Speaker 2: stopped them. But we gave them life.
Speaker 5: So when you're giving a team life like that with penalties,
Speaker 5: I'm sure that the first thing dan Quinn gonna say
Speaker 5: on Wednesday when they come in there to practice is
Speaker 5: like fellas, you should be disgusted because if it's the
Speaker 5: team that they say is supposed to be world beat us,
Speaker 5: well damn they need we talking about we're supposed to
Speaker 5: be They're supposed to have l after us. Bro, we
Speaker 5: gave them life, and you should be mad. He should
Speaker 5: be fried up and then now we should have practice accordingly.
Speaker 5: So that's why I said it's a big butt, because
Speaker 5: that was so much that they did well. It was
Speaker 5: so much that we didn't do right, but we still
Speaker 5: was right there and hand chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's funny like when the when the secondary
Speaker 1: is on it, I feel like they were pretty good.
Speaker 1: Like they're gonna get their place right. Like the one
Speaker 1: we just talked about today Flowers, that's gonna happen. The
Speaker 1: one to Isaiah likely where we've got our third string
Speaker 1: linebacker covering him in man Mack Like that's a matchup
Speaker 1: that favors damn, especially with how they run on the football.
Speaker 1: Those they're gonna get theirs. I think the thing that
Speaker 1: I would just kind of just say, hey, if I'm Dan,
Speaker 1: like let's see or Joe Wood junior, they probably had
Speaker 1: five mental mistakes where two guys are running with the
Speaker 1: same guys, someone leaving one guy zone, everyone else is
Speaker 1: in man. Didn't get the call, you know guys what
Speaker 1: And so that's right, I say to Tanni's point, like
Speaker 1: it's the penalties, but it's also the unforced errors. So
Speaker 1: think about it, if we get if we get those
Speaker 1: cleaned up, there's probably two explosives that they don't happen.
Speaker 1: They don't happen.
Speaker 2: That one with the tight end by self I was like.
Speaker 1: And and you can tell them like they looked at
Speaker 1: each other like I watched on the late we look
Speaker 1: at each other. Yeah, like Frankly Wench, Bobby Wagner looking
Speaker 1: at like they're looking at Kwan like where'd you go? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and person of All was like, that's not mine. And
Speaker 1: so obviously there's some const I'm not saying who's at
Speaker 1: fault there, but there's some consternation there. So to me,
Speaker 1: it's they're good. They played well, he's a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: But if we play our best football, the Commanders, we
Speaker 1: got a shot, man. And like Tanna said, even if
Speaker 1: you just get the penalties cleaned up, you got a shot.
Speaker 1: But then you take those five plays defensively, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if Lamar's look at the performance looks quite
Speaker 1: as good.
Speaker 4: And don't act like we we we didn't get blue out,
Speaker 4: so we're not talking yeah we got blue out.
Speaker 2: We lost about seven points.
Speaker 1: That's that's the other thing.
Speaker 4: We're the field, so we could be feeling like the
Speaker 4: Cowboys right now.
Speaker 2: We could be finished. Like then I'll say, I ain't
Speaker 2: trying to get.
Speaker 1: A post game show. And I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: we went to to toe Commanders went toe to toe
Speaker 1: with you know, the Ravens, and it was close game.
Speaker 1: But there's a couple of things here there, or you
Speaker 1: could be Dallas. Just get your face just handed to
Speaker 1: your old movie. Just someone at home.
Speaker 2: Take this, Take this, Take this. That's what Detroit did.
Speaker 4: Like when I see Detroit do a uh I think
Speaker 4: it was a pen pool and the pitch to a pena.
Speaker 2: Tackle. They did a hook the lateral to a tackle. Wait,
Speaker 2: wait to get it to the cowboy. Thank you, Detroit.
Speaker 2: Detroit hate the Cowboys as much as we did.
Speaker 5: I was sitting there shaking my head, like, what did
Speaker 5: Jerry Jones do birthday to get that kind of whopping.
Speaker 1: On his be.
Speaker 2: You've been that bad at home? When you'll be there,
Speaker 2: you got to whoop that bad that bade my birthday.
Speaker 2: Ain't doing the football scene?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's your mom's birthday, right, It's it's on
Speaker 1: the same day, right, it's his.
Speaker 2: Hit him and my mom.
Speaker 1: That's why I had a little bit of well what's
Speaker 1: up remember there? But yeah, like they they were throwing
Speaker 1: the ball late in the fourth quarter like they were
Speaker 1: going crazy.
Speaker 2: I want to give it to him.
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's pissed.
Speaker 4: About they was mad about what happened last year.
Speaker 2: And and I'm sure all week long he was like, y'all.
Speaker 4: Remember, like come on out, because you know with football players,
Speaker 4: we don't need but one.
Speaker 1: Reason you really want to get at you just like
Speaker 1: leave no doubt.
Speaker 4: Lea, like, let's go down here and let's show them
Speaker 4: what really supposed to happen.
Speaker 1: And like, I know we're not talking about this. We're
Speaker 1: talking about this game because it's funny.
Speaker 2: We we enjoyed.
Speaker 1: But they averaged I think they averaged four yards of
Speaker 1: carry with or four and a half yards of carry,
Speaker 1: which is a good number with zero explosive runs. It's
Speaker 1: like someone just basically taking a hammer to the defense
Speaker 1: and being like, oh here's four. Yeah you ready again?
Speaker 1: Stand up four And you're just like, oh my.
Speaker 4: David mcgommery Montgomery comes down hill.
Speaker 2: Then why they just paid him that money and didn't
Speaker 2: want to know that fan is I gave that.
Speaker 5: I gave that insight to on that that fantasy day
Speaker 5: that we was we was walking around the stadium. A
Speaker 5: fan was trying to pick her running but I said,
Speaker 5: get David Montgomery.
Speaker 2: David, that was a great pick. It was because he
Speaker 2: is a thumper.
Speaker 1: He's a thumper, all right. So back to the Baltimore game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, yes, Derrick Henry got his. Yeah, but Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry always gets his true.
Speaker 2: Yes, until he ran me over in my sleep last night.
Speaker 2: I woke winning, like, listen to me.
Speaker 4: Some guys that I done played against in this league defensive.
Speaker 2: Coordinators and say, Okay, you know this guy's going to
Speaker 2: get his. We just can't let the others. Yea, all right,
Speaker 2: And that's the key.
Speaker 4: When you're playing against a guy like that, like an
Speaker 4: unstoppable force, sometime cannot be stopped.
Speaker 1: You know, this is gonna sound absolutely insane, Tanne.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: They were averaging six yards of rush before this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know how many are down.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was that.
Speaker 1: So they did a good job for the moment. And again,
Speaker 1: he's gonna regis especially with that. This is the other thing.
Speaker 1: So in Tennessee you could get him because the offensive line.
Speaker 2: Was good and the quarterback went mobile.
Speaker 1: Here, the quarterbacks could, the fullbacks could, the old line's
Speaker 1: coming together. They got a good blocking title like that
Speaker 1: team is built for him to be successful. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta kind of survive it.
Speaker 5: For what they presented, with the threat of Lamar and
Speaker 5: with how well he ran that offense, it should have
Speaker 5: been one eighty two hundred y'alls Russian. Yeah, but we did.
Speaker 5: I can't say a great job okay, okay, job of
Speaker 5: containing them as long as we could. And they just
Speaker 5: feel like to me, you know, as the game go on, man,
Speaker 5: he wears you're a defensive guy. You know how tired
Speaker 5: you get, man just hitting that hitting that dog.
Speaker 2: I see, I seen the to that suite. First thing
Speaker 2: came to my mind.
Speaker 4: Busy man, Okay, man like I'm only two hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty pounds a man like that.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: Them the full back is three hundred pounds. He's leading
Speaker 1: the way that it's a physical It's a physical down
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 2: A player.
Speaker 5: I'm not surprised that our guys are feeling like they
Speaker 5: feel no players.
Speaker 2: Monday belongs to.
Speaker 4: You, Like listen that what I really respect about this team.
Speaker 4: The Ravens field him and they failed the Raves and
Speaker 4: this is all you can ask. Well, like coach gives
Speaker 4: you tell us out a time. Let's make sure they
Speaker 4: leaving Bandais today.
Speaker 1: And you know, I do the sideline stuff for the radio,
Speaker 1: like that was a dog gone physical football game. Dudes
Speaker 1: like on the ground after plays like, you know you've
Speaker 1: been on the ground, Like, man, that doesn't.
Speaker 5: Feel very do y'all understand what's happening not here?
Speaker 1: And so I do think that there's there's value in
Speaker 1: the physicality that they played with and they're still jelling
Speaker 1: the show, coming together as a group. There's still some
Speaker 1: mistakes that need to be cleaned up, but the mindset
Speaker 1: is something that you can wait.
Speaker 4: Talking to of the fans after the game, calling into
Speaker 4: the show, they said something really stuck out to me.
Speaker 4: They said, we as the fan base we left, even
Speaker 4: though we lost, we were the happier fan base.
Speaker 2: They said.
Speaker 4: The Raven fans were disappointed really, yeah, because they feel
Speaker 4: like we almost beat them. Yeah, I've been saying so
Speaker 4: the expectation levels were there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they wanted to embarrass us that. I
Speaker 5: think they felt like they had a more I guess
Speaker 5: you could say they had a better team than what
Speaker 5: we were saying that you know they were, and don't
Speaker 5: get me wrong, like I said before, that's a good team,
Speaker 5: but I still feel that they gave us their best
Speaker 5: shot and we took it. We shock, We took. We
Speaker 5: sat there like, oh that's all you got.
Speaker 2: The better Old Bay and Mumbo sauce. It got messy.
Speaker 1: The references Bay.
Speaker 2: That's what they do, the old baby.
Speaker 1: Yes, we didn't have v Robs, but every team in
Speaker 1: the NFL is to go you injury injuries, and this
Speaker 1: is maybe the most interesting one of these. To me,
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 4: Felt like we needed him this week because it was
Speaker 4: physical physical.
Speaker 2: I woke up that morning and I saw that that
Speaker 2: we ain't have him.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, And.
Speaker 5: As much as I wanted to sit there and say
Speaker 5: a pregame, I was just like, oh, yo, we still
Speaker 5: got guys.
Speaker 2: Next guy up, but the back we can't replace it.
Speaker 2: We didn't get another one and saw.
Speaker 5: Us That's what to me, I felt like that put
Speaker 5: our young QB in and you know, at Risks put
Speaker 5: him at risk in a little bit because now you
Speaker 5: don't have that run game that you can honestly lean on,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 5: club Matt Nicholas did that did their job for what
Speaker 5: they do well. But you need that president, that bell cow,
Speaker 5: you need that guy who that that thump, but that's
Speaker 5: gonna go in there and make his presence felt and known,
Speaker 5: and I think that he was definitely missed.
Speaker 2: He was truly missed.
Speaker 1: And I kind of feel like Cliff, you know, just
Speaker 1: the way he called the game wasn't overly confident. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and again that happens sometimes. You know you've been a
Speaker 1: part of team saying where the stud running backs out
Speaker 1: or the guy you really maybe not even a just
Speaker 1: a guy you trust back, yeah, just to stay on schedule.
Speaker 1: And I just felt like he didn't call the game
Speaker 1: that way. And you have to ask him about it
Speaker 1: to see what he say.
Speaker 2: But it's a guy of physicality away and I don't know.
Speaker 1: If it makes a huge difference because Baltimore's front played
Speaker 1: really well. Fru Kwon Smith did a great job and
Speaker 1: Jones the defensive tackle.
Speaker 2: Fourteen man, I got tired of seeing him in the box.
Speaker 4: I told you Cay Hampton was gonna be who they
Speaker 4: assigned to Jaden.
Speaker 1: Yes, James Daniels struggled in the first half. That's a
Speaker 1: question mark for me.
Speaker 2: Did he really?
Speaker 1: But he's a gamer. I just thought he played well.
Speaker 4: I say, I thought he played against the circumstances. I
Speaker 4: thought he played with what they give him. I thought
Speaker 4: he got a groove to say, all right, I need
Speaker 4: his first drive and his second drive to see how
Speaker 4: they trying to play me.
Speaker 2: Heints, here, I go to third drive, and now fin
Speaker 2: the show. I'm fin unleashed.
Speaker 4: So I thought it was a feeling out and ran
Speaker 4: in the first quarter for him to fill out.
Speaker 2: How they wanted to attack him. Then it got going.
Speaker 5: I think he's been so shop man. Everybody's sealing his
Speaker 5: high for him, you know what I mean. I mean,
Speaker 5: you expect him to be just that much better than
Speaker 5: everything that he faces. But I do believe that even
Speaker 5: a guy that's been on a role that he's been
Speaker 5: on has to be you know, has to allow things
Speaker 5: to digest. I think he's that first half, it was
Speaker 5: kind of a lot thrown at him, and he overcame it.
Speaker 5: He overcame in and found his spots where he can
Speaker 5: pick him. And it's just to me, the accuracy along
Speaker 5: when he's passing that football. Those receives got to be
Speaker 5: in heaven, bro.
Speaker 2: He knows when to throw it back.
Speaker 4: Showed it is a cornerback.
Speaker 5: Because you know what's going to happen eventually. And I
Speaker 5: know Rogers have this with Adam. That's why I can't
Speaker 5: wait to see what he do in New York. But
Speaker 5: as a receiver, and you know you don't have been
Speaker 5: in the situation before. If I'm in the red zone
Speaker 5: and Fred playing me outside, we we on the fifteen
Speaker 5: yard line. I have a corner route, and I seen
Speaker 5: me and Fred stay outside. When I go to that corner,
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks should know throw it to the corner. I
Speaker 5: got to stop him so I can stop it.
Speaker 2: Turn around. I automatically know that's what he's gonna do
Speaker 2: because I have that relationship.
Speaker 5: But when you get a quarterback that doesn't understand that,
Speaker 5: which I've had plenty of them throughout my fourteen they.
Speaker 2: Gonna still get me wrong. It happens all the time.
Speaker 5: They would still throw the corner like I can't beat them,
Speaker 5: So give me a chance at the ball.
Speaker 2: Let me stop.
Speaker 5: He's doing that already, He's alread stopping these guys with
Speaker 5: different routes, and I'm seeing it like he knows, okay,
Speaker 5: this guy inside throwing to the sideline.
Speaker 2: Turn around, I'm doing it right now.
Speaker 5: So just to see a young guy, rookie throwing in
Speaker 5: on that level already, man, these guys have to be
Speaker 5: just chopping at the bitch, just knowing that I'm gonna
Speaker 5: beat my guy regardless because he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna throw me open. You know what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm seeing from the guy. All that. You know,
Speaker 2: all that's being said.
Speaker 5: I think the first half you saw so many situations
Speaker 5: where they had great coverage that was tight and one
Speaker 5: time I was like, damn, we're not getting open, but
Speaker 5: he was placing the ball.
Speaker 2: These guys just coming up with.
Speaker 1: This was the game where I thought he takes some
Speaker 1: of his best throws by far.
Speaker 4: Throw he man, I'm telling you, as a deeper, we
Speaker 4: see those in that dreams a nightmare because there's nothing
Speaker 4: I can do.
Speaker 2: I can jammed here. I could do what I could do,
Speaker 2: But if the bob.
Speaker 4: Leaves his hand before this dude even close to finishing
Speaker 4: his route, what chance do I got?
Speaker 1: And then on that one, you know the fact that
Speaker 1: it's fourth out, it's this big moment Terry finishing the catch.
Speaker 1: He had a throw on a dig to Zach, which
Speaker 1: which was he knife that thingremendous. It was third and ten.
Speaker 1: It's actually it's like a double dig concept with a
Speaker 1: clear by number two and yeah, probably.
Speaker 2: Fantasy changes area but the.
Speaker 1: Arm angle right, kind of that three o'clock arm angle
Speaker 1: around the defender right past rope Quod Smith. I mean,
Speaker 1: the anticipation, the vision, the arm angle was excellent. The
Speaker 1: out route to Terry, where's he puts it only where
Speaker 1: Terry can get it, The one to no Noah Brown,
Speaker 1: same thing, the way he stood in the pocket and
Speaker 1: completed that sale route to to Zach. Like he just
Speaker 1: did so much high level quarterback stuff. I mean, the
Speaker 1: only thing I'd say, even if I'm giving him like
Speaker 1: a little bit of a knock, would be like in
Speaker 1: the early part of the game, some of the r
Speaker 1: pos on I want you to say.
Speaker 5: That that thing off the I echo that one time,
Speaker 5: and yeah, I mean, but don't get me wrong, even
Speaker 5: the best of them have those kind of mysk. I
Speaker 5: don't even look at it as miscuse, he just read
Speaker 5: it wrong.
Speaker 4: I just look at it as a youngster figuring his
Speaker 4: way out, like I think, because he's been so perfect,
Speaker 4: like he has to come back down to regular great stats.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. I'm saying it's not even
Speaker 2: about the statsmen.
Speaker 1: Just the stuff he did was better, Like the throws
Speaker 1: were better, like to touch the first touchdownitarry where he anticipates.
Speaker 1: The second win was awesome, Like the touch he puts
Speaker 1: on that what you call it, and so and again,
Speaker 1: the way that they were bringing pressure, the way that
Speaker 1: he navigated the pocket, the way he won from the pocket.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's like, did he play okay in
Speaker 1: the first half? Yeah, whatever, I don't care. It was
Speaker 1: more to me, it was more of a game flow thing.
Speaker 1: They went three and out twice, I've say. Then they
Speaker 1: had that second drive in the second the first drive
Speaker 1: of the second quarter where they drive down and were
Speaker 1: a touchdown. They're basically in a hurry up two minute motor.
Speaker 2: Yeah he looked awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked at a great job. And so when
Speaker 1: he had his opportunities, it was great. I think I
Speaker 1: think they did miss b Rob a little bit, did
Speaker 1: maintaining positive down and distance. I think they found themselves
Speaker 1: in more third and lungs, which affected him and made
Speaker 1: it harder, makes it harder for everybody. But I think
Speaker 1: the stuff you saw in this game, it's just every
Speaker 1: week it just seems to build and he seems to
Speaker 1: get more confident, and that's that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: R The legend grows. I think the guys.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's been doing a phenomenal job, and I
Speaker 5: think just conducting the offense, you know, by itself as
Speaker 5: a whole. But what I'm impressed with him the most,
Speaker 5: it's just knowing when the check, reading the things, reading
Speaker 5: the defense, is just knowing how to get especially in
Speaker 5: hurry up like these guys making these checks sometimes and
Speaker 5: they ain't even coming out of the huddle.
Speaker 2: So you gotta do his on the fly, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, seeing.
Speaker 5: Things bringing guys in motion. I saw one time he come, hey, Zach,
Speaker 5: you know on list side.
Speaker 2: You know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: He understands he had and that's that's what we talk
Speaker 5: about when we're saying having the answers to the test.
Speaker 5: It ain't none you're gonna throw at them that he's
Speaker 5: not ready for because the man study study well. And
Speaker 5: you know, you could talk about somebody coming in early
Speaker 5: leaving late, but that ain't always the case. I knew
Speaker 5: a lot of guys that came in early and left
Speaker 5: lay and they still ain't had the answers.
Speaker 2: He just has a high football IQ.
Speaker 5: And it shows each and every Sunday man every time
Speaker 5: he step on that field.
Speaker 2: You can see it at display.
Speaker 1: Good field, and so we're really excited for his continued
Speaker 1: growth and development. And this one is interesting. Yes, there
Speaker 1: are no moral victories, none, but and I don't even
Speaker 1: go any further because I don't think this. I don't
Speaker 1: think there should be any moral victory like this was
Speaker 1: a good performance. But I think if I'm trying to
Speaker 1: put myself in the position of the players there is
Speaker 1: I'd be pissed. Yeah, I'd be pissed a boy, because.
Speaker 2: We live the opportunity out there. We didn't. We didn't
Speaker 2: set out to come in second.
Speaker 1: They believe they couldn't.
Speaker 2: They truly believed it. I truly believe it. So it hurts.
Speaker 2: So no, no more victories.
Speaker 4: And we don't care about you thinking we could play
Speaker 4: with the big boys. We already throw the game started.
Speaker 4: We ain't sit out here to prove to you we
Speaker 4: can play with the big boy We set out to
Speaker 4: say we can beat them.
Speaker 5: Now I say this, and I love the fact that
Speaker 5: we brought this up because if you heard leading them
Speaker 5: to the week, every sports sports radio conversation was talking
Speaker 5: about how much they felt that the Raiders, I mean
Speaker 5: the Raven they was going to beat us.
Speaker 2: They was better than us.
Speaker 5: And after that game, now you hear them, they felt
Speaker 5: the way we're talking now they had.
Speaker 2: I felt good.
Speaker 5: I'm not even mad that it happened that way because
Speaker 5: now they feel like we are contenders. Now they feel
Speaker 5: like we can play with anybody. But it's crazy how
Speaker 5: people jump on and off the bandwagon, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, because you you didn't believe going into
Speaker 5: the game, but now you feel proud about what you
Speaker 5: saw from the team.
Speaker 2: No, that's not how this thing works.
Speaker 5: But I do believe, like since we're talking about more victories,
Speaker 5: it's okay for us to feel the way we felt.
Speaker 2: We still want to win.
Speaker 5: But we are impressed with some of the things we saw,
Speaker 5: but we still want to win. They don't care nothing
Speaker 5: about what we feel or what's going on. They want
Speaker 5: to win. That's the only objective. Every time you said
Speaker 5: on that field. And so I do believe it's gonna
Speaker 5: be a lot of people sitting out here knowing that
Speaker 5: they left one out there, and the practice level should
Speaker 5: be amp, should.
Speaker 2: Be very amp.
Speaker 5: Knowing that, hey, we got Carolina coming in. This is
Speaker 5: an easy time for us to think that it's gonna
Speaker 5: be easy. This is the toughest game of the year
Speaker 5: right now, having the team that's coming in, that's knowing
Speaker 5: that you can beat them, but knowing what's righting because
Speaker 5: of you haven't taken that l last week.
Speaker 1: Let's still a click on that real quick, because I
Speaker 1: think Carolina is really interesting because there's not a lot
Speaker 1: going on right Schematically, they're okay offensively, defensively they're fine,
Speaker 1: but they don't really have a lot of horses. They
Speaker 1: got any doll in a quarterback. There's not a lot
Speaker 1: of juice there. And so I think Tanner brought up
Speaker 1: to me the most interesting part of this game is
Speaker 1: are you mature enough as a team everyone can get
Speaker 1: up for Baltimore. Yeah, I was excited for the Baltimore game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the one where you got to come out
Speaker 1: and put up fifty and leave. You know, we're not
Speaker 1: playing in the fourth quarter like that's because this is
Speaker 1: what you should do versus this team. Or is there
Speaker 1: gonna be a is there gonna be an emotional hangover?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. This is not a sugar high team.
Speaker 4: They don't spike, they don't go through highs and lows.
Speaker 4: I think coach Quinn does a good job of letting
Speaker 4: them know every.
Speaker 2: Game call right, we ain't getting up for nobody. We
Speaker 2: already up. We don't. We don't. We don't go through
Speaker 2: these things where we think we better than people. So
Speaker 2: that's what I do love.
Speaker 4: This team is so young that they don't think it's
Speaker 4: better than nobody.
Speaker 2: They just know this week we got Carolina.
Speaker 4: Next week we're gonna have another team like Carolina, and
Speaker 4: the next week gonna be.
Speaker 2: The same thing.
Speaker 4: I think they are processing this thing the right way,
Speaker 4: and they understand if you line up across from us
Speaker 4: and you got a different color helmet, we're gonna inflict pain.
Speaker 2: We don't care about who you are and what your
Speaker 2: record is. And just know Carolina's gonna get up for them.
Speaker 5: Carolina's gonna come out here with They're gonna throw everything
Speaker 5: they got, you know, and a couple of the players
Speaker 5: moms and dads out there. I mean, they're gonna they're
Speaker 5: gonna use what they have at full it's gonna be
Speaker 5: on display because they understand that, hey, you know what
Speaker 5: they don't they don't sign us up to play on
Speaker 5: their alumni weekend.
Speaker 2: Oh on coming and Gary is getting his jersey time.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we got something for the So I'm just
Speaker 5: basically I'm not saying that it's gonna be a letdown
Speaker 5: for you know, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that.
Speaker 5: Just understand what other teams do when these type of
Speaker 5: things going on, when they're facing the team, they use
Speaker 5: everything they give you play board material that's emotionally attached to.
Speaker 2: Frankie, I mean Louis.
Speaker 4: They are going to be like, yeah, I want this,
Speaker 4: uh and the player feed off that I told you
Speaker 4: we don't need but one reason to.
Speaker 2: Have to play that week. All right. Well, I think
Speaker 2: especially with him being the emotional.
Speaker 4: Leader in the rock round guy like he come out
Speaker 4: this week, he trying to he want to leave with
Speaker 4: his helm full of just gray and seelver striped because
Speaker 4: he wants to show them you let me go, you
Speaker 4: didn't believe in me.
Speaker 2: I'm here to show you. I say one thing too, man.
Speaker 5: We've been giving a lot of praise to Louis, rightfully,
Speaker 5: sober Man, that chin man he's been He plays flying,
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 2: He plays he played some good football man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think both those guys have a reason
Speaker 1: to an opportunity to do some big things in this game.
Speaker 1: And like you said that, maybe that's enough of a
Speaker 1: reason to get emotionally out. But I think this is
Speaker 1: the thing that's tough about the NFL. It's every week,
Speaker 1: every week, someone's coming for your head. I don't care
Speaker 1: how what that team looks like. I've lost the teams
Speaker 1: you should have won.
Speaker 5: That record out of do we played Detroit, they had
Speaker 5: one game two years and they beat us and beat us,
Speaker 5: so that record goes out the door.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: It's the thing of college, college, high school and any other level.
Speaker 2: You can call those games. You can say who's gonna win?
Speaker 1: Because this is like these guys are professionals. They get
Speaker 1: paid money to come out of here and get this done.
Speaker 1: And when you watch, when you watch Carolina, they're playing
Speaker 1: hard man.
Speaker 2: No, no, they play hard and they believe in Andy Dalton.
Speaker 4: Like Andy Dalton has came in and I hate to
Speaker 4: say it, kind of reshape that offense, make them into
Speaker 4: some zeros to a couple of heroes because they get
Speaker 4: is a legit wide receiver. Adam Feeling can play the
Speaker 4: game of foot ball, Andy Dalton can throw that ball,
Speaker 4: Tube Hubbard can run that ball.
Speaker 2: The company's not baring Carolina.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so let's talk about the quarterback real quick.
Speaker 1: Obviously they kind of I don't know if it's a
Speaker 1: miss yet. I don't know if he like the jury's out.
Speaker 1: But Bryce Young was watched the first couple of games
Speaker 1: of this year for Carolina. Well, it was almost impossible
Speaker 1: to watch. It was like a non tenable offense with
Speaker 1: him there. And just they've screwed up at the quarterback spot.
Speaker 1: And like, to me, like, what's the price of missing
Speaker 1: on that, because it's like it's stunted the growth of
Speaker 1: your entire roster. So, Jason or Chenna, you talk for
Speaker 1: a second. I got a stat for here. Once you
Speaker 1: get once you get going there.
Speaker 5: No, what I was saying, was it just I don't
Speaker 5: even feel like it's a miss. I feel like it's
Speaker 5: just they missed as an organization just putting that guy
Speaker 5: in that situation. Yeah, I think he came into he
Speaker 5: came into a lose situation, A lose.
Speaker 2: Lose situation he was knowing.
Speaker 5: Any I mean, you don't have you kind of basically
Speaker 5: got rid of all your talent and then you bring
Speaker 5: a number one overall pick who's not a mobile quarterback.
Speaker 5: Any small yeah, you know what I mean, and try
Speaker 5: to say, Okay, run this offense. Oh well, Betty, yeah,
Speaker 5: we're gonna fire that. That's that I've been bringing unders down.
Speaker 5: Run this offense.
Speaker 2: He don't have nothing, He don't have no suthingce no,
Speaker 2: basically don't have nothing.
Speaker 5: He can say we at least I learned enough last
Speaker 5: year that I can still kind of kind of.
Speaker 2: Progressively get better off of this.
Speaker 5: No id to start all over and then I don't
Speaker 5: play him in the preseason.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, yeah, come on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: You have to play the game to know, in order
Speaker 5: to know, you know, to win in these situations. So
Speaker 5: I just think his situation is one of them situations.
Speaker 5: I would love to see him with another opportunity elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm just put on a real team. I
Speaker 2: want to see him with the Dolphins line. Come on,
Speaker 2: what kind of quarterback support it?
Speaker 1: And you're talking about price. So the Bears got for
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, So they got so the the Carolina Panthers
Speaker 1: got the first overall pick. They gave the Bears the
Speaker 1: ninth overall pick, which is Darnell right, and he's their
Speaker 1: starting right tackle. Yeah, Tyreek Stevenson is their starting corner, right.
Speaker 1: They got Caleb Williams in this year's draft. They have
Speaker 1: a second round pick in twenty twenty from Carolina and
Speaker 1: they traded them Dj Moore lot. That is the cost
Speaker 1: of doing business. And people say the roster is really bad.
Speaker 1: Like you look at the roster. They're struggle buson right now.
Speaker 1: Brown their defensive tackles, Hurt Thompson, their middle their their
Speaker 1: will linebackers and yeah, he's out with an achilles. They
Speaker 1: are banged up on the defensive ball they have, they're
Speaker 1: they're really lacking in talent.
Speaker 4: Rob the bank with that a mess put the money
Speaker 4: in the bank.
Speaker 2: What they what Chicago Bear did to Carolina right there?
Speaker 2: So yeah they do. They still have a whole day.
Speaker 2: It's gonna take years two d guys if.
Speaker 1: It doesn't hit. And like we said, it's still there's
Speaker 1: some still developmental stuff that could happen with Bryce Sang.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look good right now. But that leads us
Speaker 1: to the guy that's playing the game this weekend, and
Speaker 1: that's Andy Dalton, the Red Water A piece And I
Speaker 1: think he does some good stuff.
Speaker 2: No, he's a vegering.
Speaker 1: He's made the offense work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Flock all over again. Man. I mean, don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, Flock goes on a different level. But did
Speaker 2: you say Flock over the.
Speaker 5: I think he's I think he has that kind of
Speaker 5: talent like he can he can wheel those guys into
Speaker 5: some wins this year.
Speaker 2: He can just flat out through the football.
Speaker 5: And I don't think it's it's funny how guys like
Speaker 5: him are in the situation in now because of the
Speaker 5: way the whole dynamics of the quarterback position has changed
Speaker 5: as far as they're looking for the more due threat
Speaker 5: guy that that can be a guy that can you know,
Speaker 5: do it from the pocket in outside. But he's always
Speaker 5: been a guy that can throw the football, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying ahead of guy. That's why I think
Speaker 5: too you coming into this game, at least at least
Speaker 5: we're not having to worry defensively about a guy who
Speaker 5: couldn't escape the pocket or buy him to be a
Speaker 5: threat as a runner. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty
Speaker 5: sure they'll say, hey, we're gonna throw some of these
Speaker 5: in there just to keep in mind. But at the
Speaker 5: same time, I think we can flat out really go
Speaker 5: out there and pin our ears back and get out
Speaker 5: to the quarterback a little differently than we did last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been able to run the offense a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I will you kind of believe this already, Fred.
Speaker 1: So they're starting three rookies on the offense. So Xavier
Speaker 1: really get Jalen Coker, who's from Holy Cross, and then
Speaker 1: Jatavian Sanders, the tight end from Texas. And so when
Speaker 1: you watch them, like, obviously all three of those guys
Speaker 1: are pretty good athletes and they're pretty good football players,
Speaker 1: but they're still young in learning football. So there was
Speaker 1: a play where it's, uh, it's zero man right, and
Speaker 1: like gets running acrosser, but he thinks it's zone because
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel the man player, so he sits in
Speaker 1: the zone that he thinks and so you know, Dalton
Speaker 1: throws him the football. It's tackled. It's third two or
Speaker 1: the fourth and two. They got a punt. But you
Speaker 1: get a veteran in there, Yeah, a guy that's done
Speaker 1: that before and he's going to score an eighty r
Speaker 1: touchdowns season, and so I think like the offense is
Speaker 1: a little bit inexperience from that standpoint. The guys can
Speaker 1: make plays. Xaviel didn't scored a touch to any exposive
Speaker 1: play Last week as well, Coker works the seem really well.
Speaker 1: Delan is out right now, so they're kind of main
Speaker 1: target is Deontae Johnson, the guy that.
Speaker 2: Was in Pittsburgh, looking like a different receiver from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been a little bit more on right now.
Speaker 2: He's a number one guy.
Speaker 1: And so they do you have playmakers? You know you
Speaker 1: mentioned Chuba Hubbard and Miles Sanders. Is the back of
Speaker 1: running back. They've got some pieces, but it just is
Speaker 1: it's not super jailed.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they have no identity, but from what I've watched.
Speaker 4: With them, it's like it's like that the coach he
Speaker 4: just call and plays like they're not always.
Speaker 2: Attached and none for fluid.
Speaker 1: The thing. The thing that I feel is, I feel
Speaker 1: it's an offense that's aware that they're not good. So
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a first down run, you're going to
Speaker 1: get a second down play pass, you're gonna get a
Speaker 1: third and five, and they're going to hit some type
Speaker 1: of empty or spread out and like it's so formulaic
Speaker 1: because I think they're trying to mitigate risk a little bit.
Speaker 1: They're trying to say, hey, we know, we're not super towent,
Speaker 1: so we don't yes correct, so can we be consistent?
Speaker 1: But they do kill themselves because they do have mental mistakes.
Speaker 1: They have mis alignments, they have pre snap penalties, all
Speaker 1: those types of things. Because it's a young offense, I
Speaker 1: will say their offensive line is very good in past protection.
Speaker 2: They spent a lot of money season on that offensive line.
Speaker 1: Iakwanu, Damian Lewis, Braden Crechinson, Robert Hunt and their starter
Speaker 1: Taylor Mutan is hurt at the moment, but the backups
Speaker 1: doing a good job. Niggn what you say, and I'm
Speaker 1: Jay and An.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: Nervous for a.
Speaker 2: Second, you know, you know you're dona get you to
Speaker 2: say something stupid. But that group's playing well, so like
Speaker 2: they Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It's disconjoined. It is the best word for Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: just not very clean all over the place.
Speaker 4: When I see them, I see I wish I was
Speaker 4: a cornerback steel because I.
Speaker 2: Could steal something in these games.
Speaker 1: And it's a good it's a well designed offense. It's
Speaker 1: just the executions just not there. It's the first, like Tennessee,
Speaker 1: first year of the offense. A lot of stuff going
Speaker 1: on there, and then.
Speaker 5: You don't have a staple that you can say, I'm
Speaker 5: really running this offense through this person, correct this particular
Speaker 5: you know, I guess you can say.
Speaker 2: Blackout or just you know.
Speaker 5: One of the things about it when when I'm watching
Speaker 5: family earlier on them, like, so, who's the guys, And
Speaker 5: then when I saw I saw the receiver from you know, Pittsburgh,
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, Johnson, he's the one that that stood
Speaker 5: out over everybody, and look at it.
Speaker 2: He's phenomenal when he's just a.
Speaker 5: But he's a guy that you know, you can tell
Speaker 5: that they just waiting to come up, you know, you know,
Speaker 5: turn that corner around. They ready for him to come
Speaker 5: around and say, we're gonna we're gonna hand these keys
Speaker 5: to you, but we need you to get there, man.
Speaker 5: And that's that's the prime example about how we look
Speaker 5: at this game now today because you see so many
Speaker 5: first year guys, so many rookies that's just like, hey,
Speaker 5: I ain't a rookie.
Speaker 2: I've been doing this for a long time.
Speaker 5: But then you get certain guys that even though they
Speaker 5: showed flashes, they just haven't quite put it out of
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 2: Is still fast from right to slow down yet, you know, And.
Speaker 1: So that's their offense. So I think that they are
Speaker 1: kind of dangerous. They can put up some points special
Speaker 1: with it all, but it's not great. Yeah, the defense
Speaker 1: is kind of a mess. They're all their defensive linemen
Speaker 1: are hurt. It's a bunch of backup guys. They are
Speaker 1: playing hard. But you watch that Atlanta game and there
Speaker 1: are times where the three technique is six yards d
Speaker 1: like in the defense. Yeah, and they're like, wow, why
Speaker 1: can't we tackle the running backs because they're the three
Speaker 1: techniques blocking the linebacker. I think the linebackers actually pretty good.
Speaker 1: They run around and got some speed their secondary fred Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty good.
Speaker 2: You got horn, You got horn. You got a couple
Speaker 2: of guys back there.
Speaker 1: They do a Jackson the good job with talking.
Speaker 2: They do a good job.
Speaker 4: That's what I did see because I watched the Atlanta
Speaker 4: Falcons just really running the ball down their throat, like
Speaker 4: you know, Atlanta.
Speaker 5: I was about to tell you that too. I was like,
Speaker 5: if we can get back to what we do ye
Speaker 5: that bounds attack, it'll be a long day, you know,
Speaker 5: because we can actually run the football. And I saw
Speaker 5: the different I mean, you just talked about a three
Speaker 5: technique being down the field. That guy was in the
Speaker 5: he was having Chick fil A up in the stands
Speaker 5: somewhere he was. They got moved, you know, at will.
Speaker 5: So that's what you you know when you look at
Speaker 5: stuff like that. Man, don't get me wrong, you can't
Speaker 5: take nobody likely. But we have players. We have a
Speaker 5: thing going right now. We just handling our job. Man,
Speaker 5: do what we've been doing. Man, things should be and
Speaker 5: you gotta.
Speaker 1: Do what you gotta do. But like Javon Clowney's heard,
Speaker 1: Brown's heard, Shaq Thompson's heard, they're they're banged up, and
Speaker 1: we gotta take advantage of a bank defense because I
Speaker 1: think again, like the offense, I think they're well schemed,
Speaker 1: got some young, kind of new pieces and they'll struggle
Speaker 1: a little bit. All right, let's get to the fan favorite.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, hell no.
Speaker 1: Hell no. All right, here we go. First one yep,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, hell no. The secondary gets two plus interceptions.
Speaker 2: He finally secondary stand up.
Speaker 4: This is the game that you say, you know what,
Speaker 4: we tied of being the butter of your jokes, were
Speaker 4: tied and not communicating. We're gonna take Andy Doult and
Speaker 4: we're gonna try to get us to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: We're gonna try to do.
Speaker 4: We're gonna take Andy doult And and we're gonna excide
Speaker 4: defensive lad keep his jersey dirty, and I will get
Speaker 4: you the ball in return.
Speaker 5: They say, when it rains, it pours, And I can
Speaker 5: honestly see Joe Witt scheming up something to show that
Speaker 5: snipe with a redhead snipe and some looks.
Speaker 2: That he's going to think that it's favoring him, and
Speaker 2: then before you know it, yep, right than I have that.
Speaker 5: I can definitely see it again at least two because
Speaker 5: I feel like this is one of those games where
Speaker 5: he's going to have to throw the ball around the.
Speaker 2: Field if they start trailing. Anytime, you don't really have
Speaker 2: to throw, So.
Speaker 1: I know this. This number is a little skewed because
Speaker 1: Bryce Young was starting for a while. They're the thirtieth
Speaker 1: ranked team in turnovers, so like the second worst team
Speaker 1: in turnover, the third worst team in turnovers. They've thrown
Speaker 1: the most interceptions by a team. Right. They also fumble
Speaker 1: the ball quite a bit. They lose the fumbles quite
Speaker 1: a bit, so there is an opportunity here. You know,
Speaker 1: Dan's always talking about like the ball's life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bble is live.
Speaker 1: This game, I would say, tell yeah, two turnovers is
Speaker 1: definitely the thing. All Right, Frankie Luvu gets a sack,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Frankie.
Speaker 4: Lou get two till you fined me. The Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 4: y'all look me in the faces, Frankie Louvu and said,
Speaker 4: guess what, we don't want to pay you.
Speaker 2: So guess what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna pay you back.
Speaker 2: And this is what players do. You know this what
Speaker 2: we do. So I'm gonna say two and a half
Speaker 2: sec for.
Speaker 5: Frankie news flash. We had him here on the players
Speaker 5: club and he say.
Speaker 2: I circle that game.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I bet he does.
Speaker 2: All I have to say, he's circle that game. Revenge again.
Speaker 5: Mom and Dad coming from across the waters to see
Speaker 5: this one.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know when mom and dad come to a
Speaker 2: game this money, you already know what type of game
Speaker 2: is gonna be.
Speaker 1: So so again the one. The one good thing about
Speaker 1: Carolina's their offensive lines playing really well. Yeah, they're They've
Speaker 1: given up the eighth fewest sacks, no, sixth fewest sacks
Speaker 1: in the NFL, so they're doing a good job.
Speaker 4: Although with two immobile quarterbacks, so you got to say
Speaker 4: that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so they're doing a good job. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think our guys just gotta be juiced. Man, he's
Speaker 1: going to be juiced. Y.
Speaker 2: You don't think Joey and the dirt right now, right
Speaker 2: place doing this to him. Right, But let me say,
Speaker 2: you know, they ain't like it certain things.
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, I got this from Carolina. That's where
Speaker 1: Yeah like this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they said you shouldn't be playing play like hell
Speaker 4: on five for really you gotta love it, can't hell yes,
Speaker 4: hell to the.
Speaker 1: Yea yeah, hell yes, Okay, Terry continues his touchdown streak.
Speaker 4: Hell yes, and he beats my j Holmes and I
Speaker 4: kind of helped trying to.
Speaker 2: He's pretty good, No, he real good.
Speaker 4: His daddy hit me up when he was young and
Speaker 4: asked me because I worke him out. I did work
Speaker 4: him out. And when that Joe was up, so I
Speaker 4: was like, man, his feet he's good, big like you
Speaker 4: would think you a break dance.
Speaker 2: His feet are great and he seemed like your attitude
Speaker 2: like he's a hell.
Speaker 5: I saw I saw him playing the coverage like d
Speaker 5: and I'm like I saw him playing the coverage and
Speaker 5: watching film like he looked that look familiar and when
Speaker 5: he did when he broke the pass up because he
Speaker 5: dropped the pic and I see the hawking on the side,
Speaker 5: I say all that, damn de hall Way. The hall
Speaker 5: was a great But no, Jayson Hanks gonna be That's
Speaker 5: gonna be the matchup. But I think Terry is gonna
Speaker 5: be Terry.
Speaker 2: Laughing there, what are you laughing at, Jameson. Terry's gonna
Speaker 2: be Terry Man, Terry, Terry is.
Speaker 5: Terry is now finally starting to reap what he deserves man,
Speaker 5: from these courts, from from having a struggle so long
Speaker 5: with the quarterbacks, He's getting.
Speaker 2: His dude, just or what you say, just do? Just
Speaker 2: just do?
Speaker 5: I mean, Jadon is finding the Jadon is realized. They're
Speaker 5: starting to build that chemistry.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: I just think it's hard for him not to be
Speaker 5: a vital impact in every game we got going forward
Speaker 5: when it comes in the passing game.
Speaker 1: Uh hell yeah. Just because I think also, and we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about this on the Command Centers show
Speaker 1: on YouTube on Thursday. Makes you check it out? Is
Speaker 1: I think he's got a really good relationship with Jay
Speaker 1: Daniels yeah, and Tanner can speak to this probably better
Speaker 1: than anybody. When you have a good relationship with the quarterback,
Speaker 1: touchdowns find you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh you gotta just catch the ball and you're
Speaker 5: gonna have the best relationship. He show he's shown me
Speaker 5: catching it every time he throws. He's shown he bringing
Speaker 5: it in.
Speaker 4: So hey, listen, I see his future one of my
Speaker 4: He's a great guy.
Speaker 2: Call me now I see a touchdown? Madam what Miami?
Speaker 2: I know exactly clear, I'm not just satting you.
Speaker 5: Like no man, no madam Clio Cleo saying call.
Speaker 4: Me listen, Terry smile because listen. Just it's a rainbow,
Speaker 4: just like he's lying, It's just circle. I love it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: All right, hell you last one? Yeah? I think hell yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, okay, last one.
Speaker 1: Commanders get for hundred plus total offensive yards.
Speaker 2: Hey, can we just make this thing a clean, sweetest
Speaker 2: to the w Hell yeah, hell yeah, I'm with it.
Speaker 2: Four hundred case.
Speaker 4: I mean, let's just say we get one hundred and
Speaker 4: sixty seventy Russian I mean you need but like that.
Speaker 5: This might be that game that Jayden get his first
Speaker 5: three hundred.
Speaker 2: Well has he had three hundred? Yes, hundred first.
Speaker 5: Three hundred last week was his his most to sixty
Speaker 5: nine first first game.
Speaker 4: If you get three hundred excluding Terry, who is that
Speaker 4: golden goose who gets the second most yards.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's interesting.
Speaker 5: I think now you have to say he probably used
Speaker 5: a package of guys because you can man, Austin Eckerley
Speaker 5: just find his way to swiggle, wiggle out the back
Speaker 5: feeling and get thirty forty fifty yards every time he
Speaker 5: gets me put the ball in his hands. But I
Speaker 5: would say Earth is a vital target from man like
Speaker 5: he's just finding his way to get open.
Speaker 2: He he hasn't.
Speaker 5: He hasn't been the guy that you know from the
Speaker 5: past breaking tagles.
Speaker 2: But we don't even do that. And and you got
Speaker 2: to talk about the guy Brown Noah has been phenomenal.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Said, one of the Brown Brothers, Downtown Brown Brothers, Noah.
Speaker 5: I just don't see a game without Terry being an impact.
Speaker 5: So he's gonna be involved.
Speaker 1: He's going to be in big time. That's a good
Speaker 1: question because I do have a pretty solid secondary, I
Speaker 1: think because those will win those matchups with those linebackers.
Speaker 1: Those guys are really fast.
Speaker 5: But I don't think ye, I say, I say, Zach
Speaker 5: going to get a lot of opportunities this week, and
Speaker 5: don't be surprised.
Speaker 2: Luke McCaffrey, Luke.
Speaker 5: Luke getting that thing and he just played with the
Speaker 5: motor Man and you got to pay a guy back.
Speaker 5: You got to give him, you know, what he deserves
Speaker 5: and get him some targets because he's out there.
Speaker 2: Pierre got some in him. He's out there block and
Speaker 2: he's out there, he just throwing.
Speaker 4: He reminds me of like if I would play against
Speaker 4: Luke like I'm playing against Pierre.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a little scrappy. He's scrappy. He might not
Speaker 2: he might not get up talking that smoke like Perre.
Speaker 2: Pierre wanted you on the thig off. That was the
Speaker 2: crazy that Haitian don't play. Yeah, I played with.
Speaker 1: I'm just remembering, Yeah, like how absolutely unhinged. He would
Speaker 1: sound like hey man, like chill, how I'm good and
Speaker 1: just walked back. He's always in control.
Speaker 2: It was like a dude that will bipolar.
Speaker 5: He can talk so articulate and then he goes telling
Speaker 5: you about your mom and your daddy the next outing
Speaker 5: blood Yeah on.
Speaker 1: Blood, you mean he was he was a good teammate.
Speaker 2: Man, I loved I love Pierre.
Speaker 4: He's a great person and the South Carolina man, Listen,
Speaker 4: get back on the snide like it's all about getting
Speaker 4: the win. I don't care if it's about one point.
Speaker 4: I keep hearing everybody saying we should blow him out.
Speaker 4: I don't look at proteins that way. At the end
Speaker 4: of the day, we are the better team. We a home.
Speaker 4: Can you do what you're supposed to do? There's gonna
Speaker 4: always be the question with us. That's the only way
Speaker 4: we gain respect. You don't gain respect from losing to
Speaker 4: the bottom Ravens by seven. You gain respect for being
Speaker 4: the teams you should be.
Speaker 5: You know, we talk about this thing like I said
Speaker 5: this on the post game show.
Speaker 2: You know we got knocked down.
Speaker 5: Now talk Now it's time to see how to bounce back,
Speaker 5: feel you know what I mean. I think the way
Speaker 5: you do that is by having a great week of practice.
Speaker 5: And I think I'm loving just having this staff in
Speaker 5: here alone, you know, the coaching staff, because I truly
Speaker 5: believe they understand what it takes to be a championship contender.
Speaker 2: And it's by.
Speaker 5: Handling business like you didn't have that l last week.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they're gonna get right back to business,
Speaker 5: go out there and play the game that we're looking
Speaker 5: for these guys playing come Sunday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, can't wait. Becoming a big fan of this team.
Speaker 1: Obviously really excited to see what they do each and
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Speaker 1: at the meantime, can't wait for this game.
Speaker 2: But for today, Hey, first of all, get your tickets.
Speaker 1: Put Fred in there. This tire is already second later.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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