Speaker 1: Ding Dong and we're calling with a bonus special episode
Speaker 1: bit and I can already tell this is gonna be
Speaker 1: an acrimonious affair, bitch, because we're doing this bonus episode
Speaker 1: in preparation for our show Culture War Tomorrow November seven
Speaker 1: at Villain in Williamsburg thirty PM, three or seven Kent
Speaker 1: Avenue between South second and South third Street get their
Speaker 1: early doors opening at seven thirty. And again, this is tomorrow, people, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: November seven, that Villain in Brooklyn, and I don't think
Speaker 1: I don't think there could be a more filling fitting
Speaker 1: title than villain than villain. Describe your team absolutely not no, no, no.
Speaker 1: First of all, multiple people have characterized your team as
Speaker 1: the team of villains and that you are wearing red.
Speaker 1: You are wearing red um and potentially that will be
Speaker 1: um sort of that might be a winning strap of
Speaker 1: gim is that you guys will be so aggressive, so malicious,
Speaker 1: so so um invective you have you will all have
Speaker 1: such invective to spew at my team of do gooders.
Speaker 1: Have you heard from your team to me? So they team? Oh,
Speaker 1: I've certainly heard from my team, and they told me
Speaker 1: that we shouldn't worry at all. I've heard about it
Speaker 1: trobe choices from my team. I've heard about wardrobe choices.
Speaker 1: Do you fucking know what Gretta Tileman is gonna wear? Now? Well,
Speaker 1: guess what. At least Morales approached me today and said
Speaker 1: she picked up something real fucking cute? Is it? And
Speaker 1: also she told me that she's not worried at all.
Speaker 1: Is it a short sleeve electric blue ver song? Why
Speaker 1: would you give it away? I guess that's why that
Speaker 1: you undermine your own team here. It's so funny. It's
Speaker 1: so funny that you think that I'm undermining. It's so funny,
Speaker 1: so hilarious. Okay, you do well. First of all, let's
Speaker 1: just say that this is going to be a bracketed format.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Yes, and um, we're just
Speaker 1: they're just gonna go at it. And so here's how
Speaker 1: the night is going to play out. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: give too much away, but first round with all of
Speaker 1: our competitors is going to be about people. They have
Speaker 1: to take to task people, whether or not their celebrities.
Speaker 1: UM a sort of a group of people that does
Speaker 1: a specific thing that gets on their on their nerves.
Speaker 1: The category is people and that is open to interpretations.
Speaker 1: So we've asked all twenty, sorry, all eighteen of our
Speaker 1: competitors to come in and prepare something and that would
Speaker 1: fit onto the umbrella of people. So that's around one
Speaker 1: the victors of those rounds, and move on to around
Speaker 1: two and the category is I'm so sorry the little things?
Speaker 1: The little things? Am I saying that? Right? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: it's the little things. It's like those little ticks and
Speaker 1: little things. And again very wide umbrella and um. Then
Speaker 1: there's going to be a third round based on those winners,
Speaker 1: and that's going to be users choice. So they've come
Speaker 1: prepared with several I don't think so honeys. Very few
Speaker 1: of them will get to do all three of them,
Speaker 1: because listen, this is a competition. It's going to get
Speaker 1: fucking down to the wire. It's gonna get down to
Speaker 1: the dark and to be cut, there's gonna be tears ship.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be tear ship. But that's the business, baby,
Speaker 1: that's the business. That's the culture that this show, if
Speaker 1: nothing else, is a crash course for the biz. And
Speaker 1: I gotta set And you were saying, there's there couldn't
Speaker 1: be a more appropriate venue named than Villain. There couldn't
Speaker 1: be a more appropriate night for this to fall on
Speaker 1: on what else but election night? Election night decisions get made,
Speaker 1: the night decisions get made about warring sides. And this
Speaker 1: is it. Oh my god. Now this won't be a democracy,
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no no, but it will have
Speaker 1: It will be judged by a blue ribbon panel, a
Speaker 1: blue ribbon panel. You could say it's an oligarchy of judges.
Speaker 1: We have the amazing Joel Kim Booster, Jol Kim Booster,
Speaker 1: Who's Model Minority C D is out? Now? The CD
Speaker 1: is out? The CD we call it a CD called
Speaker 1: an album. Well, you know I no longer a compact us.
Speaker 1: I guess, well, I'm sure you could get it as
Speaker 1: a compactus. No, I don't think so, honey, You don't think.
Speaker 1: You don't think it's available in that format because it's
Speaker 1: printing costs. Have you ever thought of that? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. All I care about is support of
Speaker 1: my friends. Okay, I don't know how I do it.
Speaker 1: If I have to pay a little bit more, that's
Speaker 1: more money in Joel's pockeat. How everyone about our second judge,
Speaker 1: our second judge is Michelle Collins, who I would pay
Speaker 1: the printing course. Printing costs hundreds of dollars. I'd pay
Speaker 1: hundreds of hundreds of dollars, and then you would publish
Speaker 1: the you would you would distribute the albums yourself, the
Speaker 1: physical hard copies orself if it was more money in
Speaker 1: her pocket. Now, I'm not pandering too judges. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's what you're doing. And meanwhile, I've taken out
Speaker 1: I don't need to do that. I've been victimized by
Speaker 1: the judges aggressively. Well, just one in particular, which is Joel.
Speaker 1: And Joel has come from my team. And I've mentioned
Speaker 1: this before. He looked at the roster when it first
Speaker 1: was released and he said, a lot of heavy hitters
Speaker 1: on Matt's team. Someone's feeling confident. That someone being me.
Speaker 1: He assumed that my team would not have the fire
Speaker 1: in their bellies to win this and take a victory
Speaker 1: home for a team Bowen, this is real week, Sauce.
Speaker 1: What you're doing right now. I'm not being You're trying
Speaker 1: to come in as a victim. I'm not coming in
Speaker 1: as a victim. I've been victimized. It has been inflicted
Speaker 1: upon me, okay, fine, take that mantle. So this is
Speaker 1: what the majority of this bonus episode is gonna be.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go through the first round matchups for all
Speaker 1: eighteen comedians on our teams. We're gonna give a little background,
Speaker 1: We're gonna gave backgrounds. We're gonna go through their histories.
Speaker 1: Why were they chosen? Why were they chosen? What are
Speaker 1: this is gonna be sported? Would you what would you say?
Speaker 1: This is Sports Center style? I said, Sports Center style
Speaker 1: episode where we go through all these matchups and talk strategy,
Speaker 1: talk how they've succeeded in the past, talk shit, talk shit,
Speaker 1: And I'm ready to start doing that right now. Let's
Speaker 1: get into round one. Okay, So this is this Round
Speaker 1: one is titled The Dark Versus the Light, and we
Speaker 1: have on team Matt Pat Reagan, and we have on
Speaker 1: team Bowen Dylan Marin. Now, Bowen, talk to me a
Speaker 1: little bit about the contestant you've chosen, the cultures that
Speaker 1: you've chosen, Dylan. Sure, So before I do that, let
Speaker 1: me just walk through historically what he's done on record
Speaker 1: on the podcast for I don't think so, honey. When
Speaker 1: he was on his Committed episode, his dedicated episode. He
Speaker 1: I don't think so honeyed. Quote Lady Gaga, where is
Speaker 1: your performance of White Ally Ship for Black Lives Matter?
Speaker 1: And for the live show for the first installment we did.
Speaker 1: He I don't think so honeyed casting Laura During as
Speaker 1: Shaleen Woodley and Reese Witherspoon's adversary and Big Little Lies
Speaker 1: when she played their mothers in Wild and the Fault
Speaker 1: in Our Stars Um, not respectively, um, but you know,
Speaker 1: Fault in Our Stars for Sheley and Wild for Reese Witherspoon.
Speaker 1: So I took a task two wildly different things on
Speaker 1: the spectrum. One was something that was, you know, a
Speaker 1: very sobering attack on a role model, on a moral
Speaker 1: authority in the pop star community and the pop star
Speaker 1: sort of uh pantheon. And then the other was clearly,
Speaker 1: you know, a nice, more lighthearted attack casting in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I have problems with both of these. Okay, Well, before
Speaker 1: we get into that, I just want to say that
Speaker 1: that range is very impressive. It's exactly what I'm looking
Speaker 1: for on my team. I mean, he certainly was using
Speaker 1: a range of vocal styles. I mean everyone can hear
Speaker 1: him absolutely fucking scream and shout because some people feel
Speaker 1: that they need to do that, but I I don't think so,
Speaker 1: Honey live he was absolutely screaming and shouting on the record.
Speaker 1: On his episode, he was very quiet. He and I'm
Speaker 1: saying that I want that range. Sure, you know what,
Speaker 1: I guess you don't know what you're gonna get. Are
Speaker 1: you're gonna get Dylan Marren at a ten or a
Speaker 1: fucking one. Well, if he's gonna go for fucking blood
Speaker 1: that he's going to be at a ten, I assume. Well,
Speaker 1: I hope he certainly comes with something a little bit
Speaker 1: better than Lady Gaga, Where is your performance of White
Speaker 1: Alley Ship for Black Lives Matter? Because you know what
Speaker 1: she is thinking. She is now on the record big
Speaker 1: time for Black Lives Matter. I I have to say
Speaker 1: this was too early to attack her for something like this.
Speaker 1: It was just it came at just the right time
Speaker 1: because I had even uh sort of um rebutted with oh,
Speaker 1: her song Angel Down is about um is about Trayvon
Speaker 1: Martin and I'm with you there and and but he
Speaker 1: expected even more. He wants something very literal, very overt,
Speaker 1: something that isn't necessarily coded in that way, in the
Speaker 1: way that she did for Born this way, I guess,
Speaker 1: so I think that's absolutely fair. And you can bet
Speaker 1: and guarantee that he will be at a ten screaming
Speaker 1: his fucking dulcet vote. Will you know he has a
Speaker 1: voice for podcast. He knows how to use his instrument,
Speaker 1: God bless him. I also, you know, I take issue
Speaker 1: with this casting Laura during a Shane Lee Woodley and
Speaker 1: Reese were the Swins adversary and big little lives when
Speaker 1: she played their mothers and wild In the fault in
Speaker 1: our starts. So what are we saying here? There's a
Speaker 1: world where we don't cast durn in big little eyes. No,
Speaker 1: no, no no, in different because I am down with Laura Dern.
Speaker 1: Of course, this feels like an attack on Laura and Renata,
Speaker 1: which I don't sit does not sit well with you
Speaker 1: are deliberately You're being willfully up to. So I don't
Speaker 1: know what he is doing. Is he is taking to
Speaker 1: task casting casting, just the way that women are wronged
Speaker 1: in casting in Hollywood. I don't know. I had to
Speaker 1: think there's nothing wrong with Laura Dern being cast by
Speaker 1: the way in a flashback in Wild as Reeswa the
Speaker 1: Swins mother, it was a flash back Reese were this
Speaker 1: Win played her young version of herself, which was in
Speaker 1: her early twenties, and Laura Dern was appropriate for that part.
Speaker 1: So do your research, Dylan. And then she earned an
Speaker 1: Oscar nomination for that and so, um, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I feel like this just doesn't check out for me.
Speaker 1: He's attacking the larger problem, the problem, which he's very
Speaker 1: good to do because he has to look at things
Speaker 1: with a keen, observational eye. Wouldn't you say, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: good that you can repeat that from what you said before.
Speaker 1: I'm okay. Well, so let's talk about Pat Pat. Who
Speaker 1: let you talk about Pat here. I'll give you the
Speaker 1: background on Pat Pat. Of course the last culture says
Speaker 1: icon Award winner. Um, he's been on both. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey lives. I mean, he's an iconic part
Speaker 1: of the show. Of course, he was on our show
Speaker 1: and he did the iconic which earned him the title.
Speaker 1: He did the iconic. I don't think so, honey. People
Speaker 1: who shame me about posting too much on social or
Speaker 1: about ever being on my phone, ever, that was iconic
Speaker 1: and it was so please. It was so iconic that
Speaker 1: it is animated by Lulu Crouse in in uh giffy form,
Speaker 1: and then we have him on our first I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, where he accepted the title of last
Speaker 1: Culture icon Award restaurants who cover their outlets so you
Speaker 1: can't charge your phone incredibly on brand. And then we
Speaker 1: had the iconic on the last last culture assess I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey of life, he said, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. These young girls, which I will grant
Speaker 1: you is iconic. Find a problem with my friend, of
Speaker 1: problem with my man. Let's go down. Let's go down
Speaker 1: the list, Shelley one people who sham me about posting
Speaker 1: too much on social or about ever being on your
Speaker 1: phone ever. I mean, that's just, that's the opposite of
Speaker 1: um just I mean, you know, he clearly has the
Speaker 1: range to make it su saint or wordy. That is
Speaker 1: something that is just that's gonna be his achilles heel.
Speaker 1: He's just gonna tumble and stumble on his own words,
Speaker 1: and he's not going to be I'm not attacking his diction.
Speaker 1: I'm attacking his communication, his way to concisely communicate an idea,
Speaker 1: which he's not doing in this first example. So there's
Speaker 1: that number two restaurantsho cover their outlets so you can't
Speaker 1: start your phone. This is not something that is um,
Speaker 1: this is a thought that we've all had. This is
Speaker 1: not like an oh aha, We've had it, but we
Speaker 1: haven't expressed it. And that's always countless time was out
Speaker 1: there saying, who's talking about restaurants and coffee shops with
Speaker 1: no alex is the new complaining about airplane food? It
Speaker 1: is hackneyed, well trod territory. And Pat I expecting and
Speaker 1: so third, these young girls, I mean what you cannot
Speaker 1: what he it's almost you can't poke holes in it,
Speaker 1: almost but almost Because these young girls referring to gay
Speaker 1: men young gay men, is you know, toying a little
Speaker 1: bit too much with gender? Oh I don't like you.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's, you know, gonna sit
Speaker 1: well with the audience, who was going to be very
Speaker 1: well read, very well educated, and um, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I worry for Pat. I worry for I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't worry about him at all. I think he's
Speaker 1: the last Culture is Icon Award winner. I think that. Um.
Speaker 1: He has been described on this show as being someone
Speaker 1: who was one of the most underrated comedians out there
Speaker 1: in New York, if not the universe and the world.
Speaker 1: And I'd say that person did not for the record,
Speaker 1: that person did not extrapolate. I would give the edge
Speaker 1: to pat um No, that's not fair, and you would
Speaker 1: give the edge to absolutely. So it seems like we're at,
Speaker 1: we're at, We're at, We're at an impass here here
Speaker 1: we go. Let's move on to the second matchup, which
Speaker 1: is entitled Lifestyle Queens. We have on team Matt, we
Speaker 1: have a lease Morales, and I just want to mention
Speaker 1: during UM New York Comedy Festival, she also has the
Speaker 1: show UM Roast of Your fifteen year Old Self, which
Speaker 1: is one of the best shows to look out for
Speaker 1: that now, at least Morales was an early guest of
Speaker 1: Last Culture. So we did an entirely Harry Potter episode
Speaker 1: and she didn't. I don't think so, honey. That was
Speaker 1: totally uh with went with that episode. She did that
Speaker 1: Potter more ways huffle puff more than other houses, which
Speaker 1: can we clarify what does that mean? It means that
Speaker 1: when you are on pottern More and you go to
Speaker 1: take the test to get into a house, it's waded
Speaker 1: towards huffle pops yes, and she was I don't think
Speaker 1: so honeying that, which is for me, very academic, very
Speaker 1: genre specific, and it was very successful. Were we I
Speaker 1: listened to the episode today, we were gasping and gagging.
Speaker 1: And then she did her second I don't Think, so Honey,
Speaker 1: which was truly amazing and clinched her spot in this show.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm I never forgot. This was people who
Speaker 1: still care about Kim Kardashian sex tape, and um, you
Speaker 1: need to go back and listen to this. I don't
Speaker 1: think so Honey. To me, it is it is well researched,
Speaker 1: it is funny, it is incisive, is revealing, and it's
Speaker 1: is shaming of people who are wrong out there in culture,
Speaker 1: and that is what I don't think so Honey should do. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I am very confident, So, um, how how should
Speaker 1: we do this? Should I rebot or should I say
Speaker 1: go ahead and tell me what's wrong? So I will
Speaker 1: grant you that she um is. Both of these were fantastic.
Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey's um but the same problem lies,
Speaker 1: and I just say that this problem applies to both
Speaker 1: of these, which is her areas of expertise are a
Speaker 1: little too narrow, a little too specific for I know.
Speaker 1: Of course, we know Elise is the authority on Harry part.
Speaker 1: We know Elise is the authority on the Kardashians, But
Speaker 1: what what is she going to talk about outside of
Speaker 1: those two? You doubt that she has expertise in other areas?
Speaker 1: I really do. You know? Elisi is a genius at
Speaker 1: branding her own you know, topics, of of her topics,
Speaker 1: but um, you know, I'm I'm I'm really worried that
Speaker 1: she won't really have that much else to draw from. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And I would like to add h read Kim Kardashian
Speaker 1: and shaming people who still care about her sex tape.
Speaker 1: I mean, why should we Why should we not care?
Speaker 1: It's what put Kim Kardashian on the map, It's what's
Speaker 1: it was the seed crystal for her amazing empire. So
Speaker 1: I don't know why I don't think I would love
Speaker 1: to keep talking about Kim Kardashian sex. Is not people
Speaker 1: who care about Kardashian sex. It was people who have
Speaker 1: a negative opinion on Kim based on the sex because
Speaker 1: she said she was merely a girl with a fat
Speaker 1: ass and even fatter dreams and that to me, honey,
Speaker 1: is a classic joke. Sure, I mean, um, a classic
Speaker 1: joke or um, something that puts a little bit too
Speaker 1: much focus on the beauty standard around our ask you
Speaker 1: are unbelievable. So um, you know, I'm just I'm a
Speaker 1: little offended and worried about at least, so there's that. Well,
Speaker 1: she told me that she picked out a red outfit
Speaker 1: which it will slay, and she is not worried about
Speaker 1: your team member, Gonna go ahead and describe about Gretta.
Speaker 1: Gretta titleman. Now, she is someone who knows her frame
Speaker 1: of references, so so clearly I have to say this,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, that she did came out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Came out of nowhere, she did. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. At the live second Live show, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. French manicures as petticures. She was
Speaker 1: able to roll out so many, so many good singers.
Speaker 1: Your your foot isn't handing me my menu at NOBU.
Speaker 1: That was good. That's pretty fucking iconic. If you can
Speaker 1: it'll it down to one line. I think that's the sign.
Speaker 1: That's the mark of an amazing I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: And that's why I pitched Greta. She's able to distill
Speaker 1: something so clearly. Look her, I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: The way that we wrote this out like this is
Speaker 1: sort of like match a very good job of really
Speaker 1: getting these um written down her, I don't think, so, honey.
Speaker 1: Forwards French medicures as pedicures. You know what I will say,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to her. She did an amazing
Speaker 1: I don't think so handy. She represented herself very well.
Speaker 1: My concern all style, no substance, jarredy. I've heard her
Speaker 1: say talk all about the outfit she's gonna wear, as
Speaker 1: if that's going to carry her through. Guess webon where
Speaker 1: at least it's out there that's gonna be In addition
Speaker 1: to here's the problem. She came up to you almost
Speaker 1: like my outfit is going to be fierce, and then
Speaker 1: we looked down at what her I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: was and it's French manicures as pedikers. This is someone
Speaker 1: who cares a little bit too much about the aesthetics
Speaker 1: and not enough about the content. On your point of view,
Speaker 1: you know what, bitch, I certainly hope she can spread
Speaker 1: her wings. I hope she surprises us because I think
Speaker 1: the judges are gonna be why watching and I think
Speaker 1: the judges are going to be saying, huh, are we
Speaker 1: going to allow ourselves to get fucked over by someone
Speaker 1: who is not very versatile? Is she going to be
Speaker 1: working on representing our brand? I don't know. I want
Speaker 1: something that's not based in fashion. I want something that's
Speaker 1: not based in skin deep. I want depth from Greta.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you re realizing these industries of
Speaker 1: beauty and skincare, and frankly, that's not feminist view Now,
Speaker 1: let's unbelievable to call me unfeminist on this podcast. I
Speaker 1: support women. I just need them, you know, to deliver
Speaker 1: more than just demanding more of women. That's that's awful. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's move under our third matchup, shall we. This is
Speaker 1: a This is a doozy of a of a matchup. Yes,
Speaker 1: this matchup is used to be in love with who
Speaker 1: are now our co hosts on other shows? Now, as
Speaker 1: an added addendum, let's give the back story. Give the backstory,
Speaker 1: so you go first. Alright, So representing from my team
Speaker 1: is Dave Mazzoni the first time I ever saw Dave,
Speaker 1: we were a freshman in college. I could see right
Speaker 1: through him. I said, that's a closeted boy from a
Speaker 1: small suburban town Rhode Island. Because I see myself and him,
Speaker 1: I am what in love with him? Uh, proceeded to
Speaker 1: get obsessed with him. We did a show together, um
Speaker 1: where I pined for him all summer long. Eventually, I
Speaker 1: think it was like nine months we did the show.
Speaker 1: We did end up like becoming better friends, and you know,
Speaker 1: you put two people together, things happen. Um. I believe
Speaker 1: we were in and maybe a five or six week relationship,
Speaker 1: which he ended and fully broke my heart there. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, looking back, we also made the grave I
Speaker 1: think at the time mistake, but maybe now it's totally
Speaker 1: fine and funny. But we moved in together as roommates
Speaker 1: right after this ended, and he was like, because we
Speaker 1: can do that, right, And in an effort to prove
Speaker 1: how cool I was, I was like, yeah, absolutely, I'm
Speaker 1: totally fine with that. We moved in together. Those were
Speaker 1: hard times, but everything has made us so strong, and
Speaker 1: Davis now one of my sisters. He's one of our sisters,
Speaker 1: or Lando sister and that's why I feel so confident
Speaker 1: with him going up there to represent team at because
Speaker 1: he knows team Matt Um. Team Matt has um sucked
Speaker 1: his dick. So I feel like and and and team
Speaker 1: matts dick has been in Dave's mouth now, and so
Speaker 1: that's why I feel very confident that Dave is going
Speaker 1: to bring him home. Um. Hat when I talk about that,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Now, So that's the back story, and I
Speaker 1: will now say that I don't think so he said
Speaker 1: he's done. Well, I feel like, let's le's let's okay,
Speaker 1: So let's go back for the back story. Uh. So
Speaker 1: I'll give my background and then I have a little
Speaker 1: bit of a of a rebuttal I want I want
Speaker 1: to sort of point at something that you just talked about. UM,
Speaker 1: but I'll do that after this. So Sam Taggart is
Speaker 1: on my team. Um. Sam Taggart was a mutual friend.
Speaker 1: Uh when I first met him with our very good
Speaker 1: friend Matt and I very good friend Henry melcher Um
Speaker 1: and Sam new Henry through Chicago and and was visiting
Speaker 1: New York one day when he was but a senior
Speaker 1: at uv A, and he was recently out of the closet,
Speaker 1: still very masks, still very performatively straight, and was wearing
Speaker 1: flannel and it was just this clean cut, all American
Speaker 1: quote unquote guy and Henry you just very lightly just
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, consider the possibility of setting us up.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, well, I don't know. Let's
Speaker 1: let's let me see. Let me meet this guy first.
Speaker 1: And then at the time, Henry and I were roommates,
Speaker 1: and I walk up to my roommate my first department,
Speaker 1: New York on Avenue A, and um, when I first
Speaker 1: saw Shim Taggart, I was like, yeah, I'm in love,
Speaker 1: and um, you know proceeded to pine for him, uh
Speaker 1: for a couple of years until he finally moved to
Speaker 1: New York City after he graduated. Um, and you know,
Speaker 1: struck up a friendship where I sort of kept my
Speaker 1: feelings for him repressed and under wraps for a while
Speaker 1: and really had to reckon with that for a long time,
Speaker 1: which I think really propelled my emotional maturity. But anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: and then one moment that I share with Sam is
Speaker 1: that I spent New Year's with him in Chicago New
Speaker 1: Year's and um, we drove from Chicago to back to
Speaker 1: New York with a pickup truck full of his stuff
Speaker 1: and his dog Gizmo on my lap, just nipping at me,
Speaker 1: just just biting at me. It was beautiful relationship, but
Speaker 1: you know what, it was one of those experience We
Speaker 1: listened to Fleetwood mac Tusk, we talked about uh, great music. UM.
Speaker 1: I really felt a connection with him. And then when
Speaker 1: he dropped me off, I knew. I knew that he
Speaker 1: was he was someone that I would be connected with
Speaker 1: for life. Now I finally confessed my feelings for him, um,
Speaker 1: and you know, he did not return those feelings and
Speaker 1: I was devastated, and so there was a we we
Speaker 1: both decided it was a good idea too for a
Speaker 1: few months not talk to each other, and then we
Speaker 1: finally did revisit the friendship. What what spurt? What what
Speaker 1: grew out of that was a beautiful creative collaboration that
Speaker 1: has created successful, successful franchises such as Live on Broadcast,
Speaker 1: the same here with Me and Owen, what else? Um
Speaker 1: Live on Broco like Como High, don't challenge an upcoming
Speaker 1: project that is has yet to be announced, but that
Speaker 1: will be revolutionary. UM So I just think Sam and
Speaker 1: I first be it it'll feel just like the for me,
Speaker 1: for me coming out of this really emotionally overwrought place
Speaker 1: of unrequited love to um, you know, successful relationships. I
Speaker 1: mean with Sam almost weekly UM to talk about our
Speaker 1: ideas and how to execute them and produce UM. You know,
Speaker 1: that's that just shows you the growth. And I just
Speaker 1: want to say I actually spoke to Dave, you know,
Speaker 1: just today. Sure, I mean, that's that's that's your that's
Speaker 1: your cadence. But I just I would like to point
Speaker 1: out that I'm you deciding to move in with him
Speaker 1: as a display of you being cool. UM just is
Speaker 1: a blatant display of your poor judgment. And I think
Speaker 1: that is something the judges should consider. So why would
Speaker 1: they consider that I have poor judgment? I think they'll consider, Wow,
Speaker 1: what a long journey it's been. Clearly they still have
Speaker 1: a collaborative, thrilling relationship that he's allowed to be on
Speaker 1: this stuff together than you and Sam. We have been
Speaker 1: the ringer and you and Sam what you have a
Speaker 1: mere crush on. Here's here he didn't go through a
Speaker 1: relationship was what was the what was the ringer? Matt
Speaker 1: that I had to bear the brunt of some of
Speaker 1: this too in popular rehearsals. Were you twould bicker like
Speaker 1: fucking children? Yeah? That was definitely much harder for you
Speaker 1: than it was for my mind. Sam's past has not
Speaker 1: trickled down and reverberated out in a negative way towards
Speaker 1: our other collaborators the same way that you're in, David,
Speaker 1: you would be nowhere if it wasn't for me. How
Speaker 1: dare you? How dare you play kingmaker with me? Bitch?
Speaker 1: Don't bite the hand now, listen. Dave has done some
Speaker 1: incredible I don't think so honey is in the past,
Speaker 1: and I am so proud to have him on my team.
Speaker 1: Dave's first I don't think so honey, unjust the third
Speaker 1: episode of Last Cultures Us was people who say they
Speaker 1: don't vote. This is someone with a civic mind, he
Speaker 1: said on the episode, it is there are the people
Speaker 1: in other countries who would die for the opportunity to
Speaker 1: percipate in government. And he represented that and I was,
Speaker 1: I was so beautiful. And then his next I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey was people who say Britney spears sucks. Now,
Speaker 1: so that's someone who not only has a mind for government,
Speaker 1: but a mind for propping up women, and he wants
Speaker 1: to see women supported. And he he said to the
Speaker 1: whole crowd, Britney Spears raised you and we the children
Speaker 1: had forgotten that, and he reminded us, all, I dare
Speaker 1: you to say something negative about these I don't think
Speaker 1: so Honey's okay, totally good. I don't think so honey
Speaker 1: is absolutely don't really have anything critical to say good.
Speaker 1: Um really just took the form, understood it, went with it,
Speaker 1: hit it hard. Um communicated all these things effectively. I
Speaker 1: will say, Um, you know, both of these are about people.
Speaker 1: You know, what is the little thing? Actually the first
Speaker 1: assignment the first time. But you know, he'll make it
Speaker 1: to the first round potentially already I'm saying there's a
Speaker 1: fifty fifty chance. But um, you know, what's he going
Speaker 1: to come up with for the second round if he
Speaker 1: makes it that far with the little things or what's
Speaker 1: his user's choice that isn't gonna sound redundant. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm worried about for Dave. So you know, we'll see
Speaker 1: and UM, I hope I I hope that we UM.
Speaker 1: I hope that he makes it far enough along for
Speaker 1: him to see them talking about a lack of versatility.
Speaker 1: It actually segways perfectly into Sam. So why don't you
Speaker 1: tell us what? Honey? So Sam, has um really made history?
Speaker 1: And I don't at Lost Culture rest Us his I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. On his episode was I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey, Lost Culture Restes podcast not talking about
Speaker 1: the new Instagram Stories. Now, this was the day of
Speaker 1: Instagram had launched their stories feature one that's historic. Two.
Speaker 1: So you're already explaining, say the other one and then qualify,
Speaker 1: Oh no, no no, let me just finish on this first one.
Speaker 1: The second historic thing about this I don't think, so,
Speaker 1: honey was that he was the first person in Lost
Speaker 1: Culture history too. I don't think so honey. The hosts huge, huge, huge,
Speaker 1: and he did it. He did it very well, with energy,
Speaker 1: with fire, with biting wit. The second I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey was Via Trouble. One of the first early
Speaker 1: adopters also historic of the Trouble of drawing from the
Speaker 1: Trouble was Kelly Clarkson. And he I remember that one
Speaker 1: because there was like a lot of there wasn't a
Speaker 1: lot of words. Well, no, he was just taking something
Speaker 1: that he didn't really have um expertise with and he
Speaker 1: still did not let that affect his performance. He still
Speaker 1: came with such emotion, with such fire, And you know what,
Speaker 1: that to me is a star. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: cultural icon he's going to take home. If you think
Speaker 1: you're gonna come onto the Last Cultures podcast and not
Speaker 1: only disrespect me, but disrespect Kelly, you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: very far. And does that have to do with his performance,
Speaker 1: because I'm just saying that you, karmically, you make a
Speaker 1: choice when you when you decide to come for Kelly
Speaker 1: and to come from me, you you make a choice,
Speaker 1: and karma will come back around karmically. He is on
Speaker 1: the show. We haven't selected him. Yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: your choice, baby. I think it's very self hating of
Speaker 1: you to choose someone who has come for you in
Speaker 1: the past for your choices. I think it's disgusting that
Speaker 1: you would not support Kelly in this moment where she
Speaker 1: needs to be supportive. Meaning of life is out right
Speaker 1: now and I just hope that you know what, I
Speaker 1: it's not even a hope, it's I know that, um,
Speaker 1: the heroes will prevail here. And someone who has been
Speaker 1: on the side of pop stars and wantn't to succeed,
Speaker 1: will definitely take it over someone who came in and
Speaker 1: trash someone else. So okay, no, you're right, you're right,
Speaker 1: You're right. Um, we have diametrically opposed contestants in this matchup, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and we will see which side Karma favors. Okay, now
Speaker 1: let's move on. We have the Titans of Intellect, Tens
Speaker 1: of intellect now on my team. We have Amanda Dwarte
Speaker 1: um jos talk about a moral authority here. She is
Speaker 1: able to take what is happening in the moment, process it,
Speaker 1: digest it, and give you a clear coaching opinion on
Speaker 1: something that you didn't even know you wanted to hear. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying everyone agrees with her, that
Speaker 1: everyone should sort of, um, you know, follow to the
Speaker 1: letter what she says. But most of the time she's right,
Speaker 1: and most of the time she is able to um,
Speaker 1: you know, really fucking slay an argument and her most
Speaker 1: of the time. Okay, that's not what I meant. That's
Speaker 1: not what I meant for it to sound like I'm
Speaker 1: saying a the time. Now her, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: At the Second Life Show was the movie black Fish
Speaker 1: via the Trouble, and she was able to pull out
Speaker 1: these amazing, amazing facts and just really just take an
Speaker 1: academic approach, socratic approach to taking down the movie black Fish.
Speaker 1: Her facts were, don't make me hungry for sushi. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a fact. That was her fact. You would you
Speaker 1: would say, that's not a fact. I would say that
Speaker 1: is some hope, coum, that's not hom How dare you?
Speaker 1: I would say reduce that. She couldn't find a way
Speaker 1: to feasibly attack the movie black Fish, so she decided
Speaker 1: to take a comedic route and say it made me.
Speaker 1: You know what this is this the show is about
Speaker 1: truth to power. What made the black Fish a not
Speaker 1: good movie? You could have said not enough um, not
Speaker 1: enough input from the movie, from in the movie, from
Speaker 1: sea World's perspective. Sure, I mean, do we expect her
Speaker 1: it's not very feminist feminist view. It's not very feminist view.
Speaker 1: And this might be your preview of what the collective
Speaker 1: team strategy will be is to sort of cut you off,
Speaker 1: just hit just hit you low with this fact. Frankly,
Speaker 1: that Matt Ponders is not a feminist. It's insane desay.
Speaker 1: I'm not a feminist when there's someone on my team
Speaker 1: in this very matchup. Actually, who's one of the hosts
Speaker 1: of the podcast, Miss Andrey with Marcia bell Ski and
Speaker 1: my teammate ray Sonny who's representing four team, Matt Her.
Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey's in the past are when
Speaker 1: she was on our show Twitter, people who ain't got
Speaker 1: a blue check coming for her? Absolutely and her I
Speaker 1: don't think so Honey live was Elizabeth Moss via the
Speaker 1: troll Ball iconic. She hit everything. When I put Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Moss in that troll ball, there's a lot to there.
Speaker 1: There a lot hit and she hit everything. Absolutely, she
Speaker 1: hit everything you could clock Elizabeth. She even went as
Speaker 1: far as to say top of the Lake was boring,
Speaker 1: which it is, you know, and that's like that's like
Speaker 1: in the deeper like things you could hit about Elizabeth Moss.
Speaker 1: Obviously she got scientology, obviously you know all these things.
Speaker 1: But to say top of Lake was boring, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's true the cultural commentary. And I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't see a threat here,
Speaker 1: you know, um, this is the threat is that Amanda
Speaker 1: will succeed with flying colors. You are at a lost
Speaker 1: every round because she has demonstrated versatility. She knows how
Speaker 1: to talk about every which topic. Now she certainly is
Speaker 1: has demonstrated HOKEM. How dare you you cannot hokem POKEM
Speaker 1: not throw the word hokem at someone with the intellectual
Speaker 1: prowess of Amanda Dwarte. How dare you I have hop Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well maybe that's your problem. It's because you have not
Speaker 1: chosen wisely. You see, my team is impenetrable. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: And this is the narrative that I want to point out,
Speaker 1: is um that you know, the the rosters went out,
Speaker 1: people were like, oh, advantage mad, advantage man at. But
Speaker 1: then slowly these matchups came out. No, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, no, I'm not. I wasn't. I wasn't going
Speaker 1: into a victim arrative there. As the matchups were released,
Speaker 1: people started to say. The collective din was, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: this is more of a toss up than I thought
Speaker 1: it would be. And I think that's absolutely what we're seeing.
Speaker 1: So you know, don't don't don't don't count on, don't
Speaker 1: count your you know your wins and your advantages. Just yet, Matt,
Speaker 1: that's all let's move on to our next battle matchup,
Speaker 1: which is former Planet Hollywood front of house staff. Now,
Speaker 1: these are two gentlemen who used to work the front
Speaker 1: of house at Planet Hollywood Times Square, and my have
Speaker 1: they grown from that point. They've grown from that point,
Speaker 1: and they've grown from a specific incident where, Um, I
Speaker 1: believe Tim Murray did um tell us this privately off
Speaker 1: the record that when they did work at com Planet
Speaker 1: Hollywood together, they didn't they didn't really interface and or
Speaker 1: interacted that much, Michael Hartney and Tim Murray. But um,
Speaker 1: one time, I believe it was a chef or someone
Speaker 1: in the kitchen had like done some shitty thing to Tim. Well,
Speaker 1: he it was in our like a dispute in the
Speaker 1: kitchen like you have of where um, Tim I think
Speaker 1: asked for something and the chef acted like it was
Speaker 1: a much bigger deal than it was, and Michael Hartney
Speaker 1: jumped in and just told him to give him the
Speaker 1: fucking thing because it wasn't a big deal. So, you
Speaker 1: know what, you got quite a quite a tighten on
Speaker 1: your team there. Michael Hartney is on your team, and
Speaker 1: you know he's he's a force to be reckoned with
Speaker 1: someone who is able to just step up and be
Speaker 1: that that right, that that corrective force in the world.
Speaker 1: I understand. I look, I'm not even going to front.
Speaker 1: I also wanted Michael from my team. I lobbied hard
Speaker 1: for him. He ended up on your team. I you know,
Speaker 1: it's certainly a concern of mine that he isn't on
Speaker 1: my team, but because he certainly shut it down with
Speaker 1: his I don't think so, Honey's in the past, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's been absolutely amazing. What has he done. First time
Speaker 1: was on the first live show. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: the famously closed the whole show. Tony came up from
Speaker 1: the raffle, but he closed the whole show with I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. People who say their favorite movie
Speaker 1: of was The Usual Suspects topical and that Facebook will
Speaker 1: stop it was? It was topical? Now, how dare you?
Speaker 1: Because it was topical right now in this momentum of course,
Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey, but it was topical. He was talking about
Speaker 1: that that Facebook game where people were posting years that
Speaker 1: they've been living, and he chose to go a topical
Speaker 1: route on that evening. Yes, and he made a great
Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey joke. Um if I wanted to hear Kevin
Speaker 1: Spacey live for two hours. I'd ask him about the
Speaker 1: women he's fucked. I mean, what a great setup punchline
Speaker 1: right there. Just he's a stunning, stunning, a stunning humorist.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say, you know, he he's
Speaker 1: someone who has strong opinions about a lot of things,
Speaker 1: and I will say he is almost always right about it.
Speaker 1: And what was his other? I don't think so. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry his other I don't think so, Honey during his
Speaker 1: episode was people who come for Milana. And here is
Speaker 1: my problem. We have a very film centric mind. And
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess the judges again, are they
Speaker 1: going to see a lack of versatility on your team?
Speaker 1: Are we again? Are we getting again? I That's that's
Speaker 1: been the argument that I've leveled against your team all
Speaker 1: this time. What do you mean again that you're dealing
Speaker 1: with that You're dealing with people who obviously deal only
Speaker 1: in the world of fashion, who people don't Potter Kim
Speaker 1: kardash You only the world of attacking us and the
Speaker 1: people that we love, which is Sam. I'm just saying, Michael,
Speaker 1: you know what, if you're gonna come to I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey. And if you say a fucking I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey about a movie or like anything
Speaker 1: in the world of cinema, don't think that's not going
Speaker 1: to register. Okay, because we see you, bitch, we see you,
Speaker 1: We see you in your limited school. Okay. Well, then
Speaker 1: if you're going to talk about you know, you know
Speaker 1: some some any myopic sort of areas of expertise, why
Speaker 1: don't you talk about your I'm proud to my teammate
Speaker 1: is Tim Murray. Now his first I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: and I don't think so honey Live was Harry Potter Bullies.
Speaker 1: He's never read it, he's not going to read it.
Speaker 1: Stop only in him. He's not going to do it.
Speaker 1: That's a shaming and shaming shaming. We'll stop shaming him
Speaker 1: and he won't shame you. And the second one, which
Speaker 1: is on our episode, was people who slide into my
Speaker 1: d m s to ask about my friend. Now, tell
Speaker 1: me what's comparable between those two. We had two stunning
Speaker 1: I don't think the funnies that made us think about
Speaker 1: our behavior, and they were cultural and they both of
Speaker 1: these I don't think so honey has created a shift
Speaker 1: in the way people behaved. Absolutely not where's that? Where?
Speaker 1: Where's that shift? What would you see that shift? I
Speaker 1: would say that people when they heard him on Lost
Speaker 1: culture as talk about don't fucking contact him and ask
Speaker 1: about his friends and his d M s. I bet
Speaker 1: he's gotten no messages since since that. I just think
Speaker 1: it's he made a social point. He's coming from this
Speaker 1: very unrelatable place, the one with the Harry Potter sort
Speaker 1: of the anti Harry Potter sentiment, but two implying that
Speaker 1: people are sledding into his d M to ask about
Speaker 1: his friend um or bringing that up. It would imply
Speaker 1: that he a has a hot friend, which not everybody
Speaker 1: does and be and we all have a hot friend
Speaker 1: and be. It implies that people are d M ing
Speaker 1: him and I don't get that many d ms, and
Speaker 1: I don't relate to that. It's alienating to me. I
Speaker 1: think that that makes you unusual because I think most
Speaker 1: of us get d m s, whether or not we
Speaker 1: get five, ten, or maybe even one or two a
Speaker 1: day we get, we all get d ms. We all
Speaker 1: know what d m ng is all about. Can't say that,
Speaker 1: And I think that we can relate to him on
Speaker 1: a Harry Potter level two because some of us just like,
Speaker 1: maybe we're not into it. It's this cultural, this this
Speaker 1: idea that we all have to be part of the
Speaker 1: same culture. He represents so much. There's so much brevity.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, and just to bring up
Speaker 1: that anecdote again about the planning Holly, that planet Hollywood
Speaker 1: incident in the kitchen, Tim Murray, O's Michael Hartney his career. Wow,
Speaker 1: this is so just think about that. I think we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. We have someone who's been coming. They're
Speaker 1: both gonna come very hard. They're both gonna come very hard.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be one to watch. It's gonna be very
Speaker 1: much are all we have. I'm you know what, first
Speaker 1: of all, just as a point of excited, as a
Speaker 1: point of unity, I think you and I have done
Speaker 1: a very good job with these matchups. Amanda Dwarte did,
Speaker 1: and this is why I respect. Just to go back
Speaker 1: to Amanda really quickly. She asked if there were any
Speaker 1: male female matchups or any non same like homosexual, you know,
Speaker 1: same gender matchups. I said, there's no male female matchups,
Speaker 1: but there is, and we'll get to this later. There
Speaker 1: is a male non binary matchup. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if that if that's the same thing that Amanda is
Speaker 1: talking about, I think to think that and she and
Speaker 1: she sort of, you know, she said that was very interesting,
Speaker 1: and I think I admire one of my team members
Speaker 1: who is able to question my decision making. I like that.
Speaker 1: I want that. Well. I think it's actually trash that
Speaker 1: she questioned the decision making because it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a gotcha moment, it's wanting something that was a private conversation. No,
Speaker 1: it's a gotcha moment um and I think that she
Speaker 1: is asking gotcha questions. And I also think that to
Speaker 1: assume that we would just make these pairings based on
Speaker 1: gender is very small minded. Obviously, these are some very
Speaker 1: specific and carefully curated matchups, and um, I personally feel insulted.
Speaker 1: Whether or not it's you that feels insulted by your teammate,
Speaker 1: that will be something. But again, just things you're putting
Speaker 1: out into the karmic hemisphere that are just really questionable.
Speaker 1: And again I really questioned. This is from karmic scholar
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers. Okay, now let's go to the next match,
Speaker 1: or let's do that, Let's move on, let's move on.
Speaker 1: This is so Now we have someone from a little
Speaker 1: bit of Texas and someone from a little bit of Georgia.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Now, um representing the great state of Texas,
Speaker 1: where the hair is big and the sticks are juicy,
Speaker 1: we have Chrissie Shackleford. Now, this is to me one
Speaker 1: of my one of my very favorite people on my team.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for this now. I say this knowing
Speaker 1: full well that her first I Don't Think So high
Speaker 1: on our show was quote Matt fucking Rogers. Now, what
Speaker 1: an interesting, curious thing for you to and bring up
Speaker 1: my self loathing. But go ahead now It's It's different though,
Speaker 1: because she came from me because she wants me to
Speaker 1: be the best version of myself. And she came from
Speaker 1: me because I was interrupting you during your I don't
Speaker 1: Think so honey, And she knows she loves this show
Speaker 1: so much that she wants to see it fair and
Speaker 1: square and and to its fullest potential. And she wanted
Speaker 1: to give you the space. And also she wanted you
Speaker 1: to have the space to humiliate yourself. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. We don't need to hear my voice to
Speaker 1: hear the garbage that you spew. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: She said, no, no, no, Matt, don't interrupt him, Molly talks.
Speaker 1: Let him drown himself. Okay, So I see a really
Speaker 1: smart game player there, and she knows how to get
Speaker 1: to you. And also, you know, the most difficult trouble
Speaker 1: topic in that first I don't think, so, honey, was
Speaker 1: Julie Andrews. And she pulled Julie Andrews and she was
Speaker 1: able to make a compelling argument against international icon Julie Andrews.
Speaker 1: And if that's not the marketings of a great champion
Speaker 1: of I don't think, so honey, this is someone who
Speaker 1: could win this whole thing. Now, I just want to
Speaker 1: say that it's very curious that you bring up this
Speaker 1: strategym of this gambit of um. You know, she is
Speaker 1: gonna just let the other side, the other person destroy themselves,
Speaker 1: and you know, I identify with that. I feel like
Speaker 1: your team and your whole um, the conversation that you've
Speaker 1: directed at this point has been very antimey and ty
Speaker 1: bow and team Bowen is bad, Bowen is gonna suffer.
Speaker 1: But blah blah blah blah blah, champion my team, and
Speaker 1: so you know it's sort of like the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: like what was their message during the election other than
Speaker 1: no Trump? Like, what like what were they going to
Speaker 1: do for the American people. I'm it's very reminiscent of that.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that you bring up Chrissie's strategy in
Speaker 1: this way where it's like, I might just let you
Speaker 1: destroy yourselves because your platform has no leg to stand
Speaker 1: on other than no bo win. So you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting, that's not true. I think I've I've I
Speaker 1: have a well round the team. I think Christie is
Speaker 1: going to bring it home, and I absolutely think she's
Speaker 1: going to destroy whoever this is on your team. This
Speaker 1: is La sharp Kneed. I've had multiple people come up
Speaker 1: to me and say her, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: At this live show, which was white people who clap
Speaker 1: on the one and the three instead of the two
Speaker 1: and the four, was one of the most incisive. It
Speaker 1: was very good. So it just it can it came
Speaker 1: from such a a good, real place. I mean, only
Speaker 1: Shella could have done this, you know, only she was
Speaker 1: very She's she's a musical person. She has witnessed this firsthand.
Speaker 1: She she saw a problem, she attacked it. It was
Speaker 1: a great I don't think so, honey, And it was
Speaker 1: the I don't think so honey heard around the world
Speaker 1: everyone has. People are still coming up to me and saying, Shella,
Speaker 1: that's that's the icon. She's incredibly worthy um of being here.
Speaker 1: In fact, when I mentioned to Christie that she was
Speaker 1: going to be competing against Sallea, I did see some
Speaker 1: reservation on Christie's face. But I think that will drive
Speaker 1: her okay, and I think that she will. We will
Speaker 1: be buried in the sand. You know, Georgia is really
Speaker 1: this new They're calling it Yollywood. I'm sorry, how Tollywood.
Speaker 1: It's where stars are born. It's where stars are born.
Speaker 1: It's where all the industry is going to end up
Speaker 1: in at some point because there are tax breaks for
Speaker 1: film production there. Well, so we're gonna all you know,
Speaker 1: you know, we're people working in this industry might end
Speaker 1: up in Atlanta at some point to shoot up a
Speaker 1: TV show or a movie. Um and um, you know,
Speaker 1: we would want to stay in Atlanta's good graces and
Speaker 1: maybe UM give Chalea a well deserved win. I'll just say,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not we don't need to give her
Speaker 1: any when in fact, I think what we're gonna see
Speaker 1: Bowen is live on stage tomorrow night. We're going to
Speaker 1: see the night the lights went out in Georgia. How
Speaker 1: dare you? How dare you? And look, speaking of if
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about states, if I hear one more
Speaker 1: fucking time from see Shackleford about bluebonnets, the dicksie Chicks,
Speaker 1: fun barbecue places in Austin, sixth Avenue in Austin, U
Speaker 1: T Austin, whatever the funk about Texas, I'm gonna lose
Speaker 1: my mind. She she's trying to where she comes now,
Speaker 1: she's in your face about where she comes from. Like
Speaker 1: my opponent Matt Rodgers, who always has to bring up
Speaker 1: at every fucking moment that he's from a lot Long Island. No,
Speaker 1: I've survived Canada, Australia, Colorado, the oppressive places that are
Speaker 1: Canada and Australia from Long Island. Actually rash, I'm an
Speaker 1: immigrant and I've come so far there he is playing
Speaker 1: the victim again. So I refused to be a victim.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote Tony Morrison. I'm not the victim. I
Speaker 1: refused to be one. And that is absolutely my narrative.
Speaker 1: I share so much in common with Tony Morrison. Let's
Speaker 1: discuss these next, beloved. Now, this is our technically our
Speaker 1: only non homo gendered PA airing. This is Gabe Gonzalez
Speaker 1: versus Peter Smith. Now, Matt, this is art queers. Yes,
Speaker 1: art queers. My contestant is Gabe Gonzalez, who I'm proud
Speaker 1: to have on my team. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: It was a bilingual I don't think so, honey. It was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was that was historic. And he did
Speaker 1: it on baseball via the troll ball. It was incredible.
Speaker 1: He tackled, you know, um being a young boy being expected,
Speaker 1: in fact culturally expected to watch baseball. There was this.
Speaker 1: I don't think the honey was so layered. It was international.
Speaker 1: It was an international, I don't think so, honey. And
Speaker 1: he attacked America's pastime and lost coaches. Coltury is a
Speaker 1: very American show. It yes, it is. And to take
Speaker 1: it that far, I think this was a real challenge.
Speaker 1: And he hit a home run, a grand slam, if
Speaker 1: I might use some baseball terms. He rounded all four
Speaker 1: basses and he slid home for the for the win.
Speaker 1: He was the Houston Astro. He was the Houston astro. Now, um,
Speaker 1: you're right. He was able to pull from his own
Speaker 1: personal experience in such an artful way. He talked about
Speaker 1: his upbringing as in a Puerto Rican household, what baseball
Speaker 1: sort of meant in that household? I will say, um
Speaker 1: that he you know, he might have he might have
Speaker 1: alienated some people. You reach, you had to reach, and
Speaker 1: not even not even why would he Why would that alienate?
Speaker 1: I don't watch baseball. I don't give a shit about baseball.
Speaker 1: He didn't pick the topic. It was the trouball honey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if he's gonna he had to make a coisive
Speaker 1: argument against whatever we picked. But he was able to slay. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't make it relatable to me. He talked about
Speaker 1: he talked about the only good thing about baseball being
Speaker 1: seen in the guy's butts. That's not relatable to you
Speaker 1: because I don't know the the only related the only
Speaker 1: relatable thing about baseball is getting to go to the
Speaker 1: games and eating the food. So that he had that,
Speaker 1: he didn't mention that to you. Makes it USU down
Speaker 1: the drain, absolutely down the drain, down the drain. Now
Speaker 1: you are you are a wench. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about disgusting. Remember in this matchup Peter Smith, now, Peter
Speaker 1: that Peter has lended their talents just so many times.
Speaker 1: What they've helped us out in the past, their betting
Speaker 1: impression that has still has people talking with their own
Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey is both at the live
Speaker 1: show and on their episode, now this is uh Peter's.
Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey's were as follows Uh and
Speaker 1: I think Peter Peter, this is historic. Peters through the
Speaker 1: first trouble on the episode from a short period of time.
Speaker 1: We we're giving our guests the option of drawing from
Speaker 1: the trouble during their recording, and you gave them a
Speaker 1: hard one and they pulled the hard working middle class.
Speaker 1: I think they nailed down on the head. And then
Speaker 1: at the live show, guests who come into my home,
Speaker 1: I give them a can of pop and they leave it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a full story right there. That's
Speaker 1: that's baby shoes never worn, four sale, baby shoes never worn.
Speaker 1: That's a full story right there. See a red flag
Speaker 1: here though. They used the word pop and that's that's
Speaker 1: that's part of the storytelling. It tells you that they're
Speaker 1: from the Midwest. I don't need to hear that. Why not?
Speaker 1: Because it doesn't then I don't need to hear that.
Speaker 1: Pertucan family. Um, listen him saying the word pop, like
Speaker 1: them them saying the word pop. You are a trader,
Speaker 1: not a feminist, not just transphobic. Matt Rodgers, them not
Speaker 1: saying soda took me out of it. Okay, al right,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna level the same argument against me that
Speaker 1: I leveled against Gabe. That's fine, that's it really took
Speaker 1: me out of it. Okay, So this is another draw.
Speaker 1: We were seven for seven draws, So here are last two.
Speaker 1: Let's yeah, I give the edge to Gabe and you
Speaker 1: give the edge to Peter. There this next controversial matchup,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't be more thrilled that it's controversial. Dare
Speaker 1: you the face shaker uppers? Facebook uppers? We have Marsha
Speaker 1: Belsky for team Matt, Nicole Silverberg for Team Bowen. Now this,
Speaker 1: I have a hero on my team. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the backstory here. You think you have a you have
Speaker 1: a martyr on your team. That's why you have that's
Speaker 1: Jonah not the same as a hero. I believe that
Speaker 1: a little bit of backstory Nicole Silverberg posted this extensive, exhaustive,
Speaker 1: in an amazing way, this list of things that men
Speaker 1: can do to support women, um, just in everyday ways,
Speaker 1: but specifically in ways that a deal with sexual assault. UM.
Speaker 1: Just talking about believing women, talking about supporting women in
Speaker 1: the right ways, talking about not taking their space during
Speaker 1: in these conversations, which is something that we've anyone male
Speaker 1: or female, but mostly male can learn. And she posted
Speaker 1: this amazing educational, not pedantic article pedantic article that was
Speaker 1: eventually published on The Guardian, and Nicole subsequently received death
Speaker 1: and rape throught on Twitter, um and Facebook on all
Speaker 1: the platforms, and then Matt's teammate Marcia sort of came
Speaker 1: in very nobly and uh as a sign of support
Speaker 1: and solid already said men are scum, which got her
Speaker 1: band from Facebook for thirty days. Now. This is a
Speaker 1: horrible story on all, just every part of the story
Speaker 1: is just very very very um you know, depressing and
Speaker 1: demoralizing in some way. They both went through a lot.
Speaker 1: They both went through a lot, and I think Nicole
Speaker 1: rightfully when this matchup was announced, um, she called it fucked.
Speaker 1: She called it fucked, which you know why, We'll give
Speaker 1: it to her. It's a fucked matchup that but that's
Speaker 1: what I love. Okay, here we go and this I'm
Speaker 1: not the one saying that this is Matt You know what,
Speaker 1: I think that this it's better that they go up
Speaker 1: against each other. Why because we could see because they
Speaker 1: know in there, they know that this will cause them
Speaker 1: to go one hundred and fifty because they look at
Speaker 1: each other and they have utmost respect for each other.
Speaker 1: You don't think the other would throw the competition for
Speaker 1: for the other person, Absolutely not, Absolutely not. I think
Speaker 1: that this. I think I looked at the list and
Speaker 1: I saw the two of them, and I said, they
Speaker 1: must go up against each other because look what they
Speaker 1: do and what they stand for is you couldn't say
Speaker 1: anything about them like this is. These are two incredibly
Speaker 1: necessary people. I think it's so funked up Facebook banning
Speaker 1: Marcia and they have since lifted the band because I
Speaker 1: think they've seen the error of their ways. By the way,
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg is a fucking maniac and idiots. You know
Speaker 1: what I found out He owns of the wealth in
Speaker 1: the millennial generation. He owns almost everything. He's just a
Speaker 1: piece of ship. And Facebook is crazy for not banning
Speaker 1: these fucking monsters, real monsters who pose real threats and
Speaker 1: Twitter and Twitter, and they banned Marsha and they like
Speaker 1: Nicole has to go through all this garbage just for
Speaker 1: like like spreading like what is necessary in the world,
Speaker 1: so you know what, pit him against each other. I
Speaker 1: only care about good. I don't think so, honey, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be. This will what they've been through. They're
Speaker 1: gonna bring to that stage and they're gonna bring the
Speaker 1: fucking heat. This is you know what, this one, this
Speaker 1: one really, I feel this will be intense. I feel
Speaker 1: such a mix yes, exactly, I feel such a mix
Speaker 1: of emotions. I'm excited, I'm scared, I'm happy, I'm terrified.
Speaker 1: All these things. I just repeat, let's talk about what
Speaker 1: they've done, so my Marcia has done. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Freedom of speech. I'm telling you, this is someone who
Speaker 1: is not afraid, she has no fear to take on
Speaker 1: the first Amendment of our Bill of Rights. And you
Speaker 1: know what, knowing it's going to be recorded and played
Speaker 1: nationwide and for millions listen to and posterity, and this
Speaker 1: is someone who I'm telling you, I see nothing getting
Speaker 1: in Marsha's way. Now for Nicole, she has demonstrated such
Speaker 1: a versatility. I think I have the versatile queens. On
Speaker 1: her episode of Lost Culture restas she I don't think
Speaker 1: so honeyed quote you showed me the movie Joy on
Speaker 1: an airplane and UM, I believe um. One of her
Speaker 1: little sound bites in that one was, UM, I would
Speaker 1: rather um the plane go down with the president on it.
Speaker 1: And at the time, this, this was pre inaccuration, this
Speaker 1: was President Obama, and she was so willing to, you know,
Speaker 1: sacrifice the life of one of our best presidents and
Speaker 1: just so just to drive one of the best, one
Speaker 1: of the best, and um, you know she's not afraid
Speaker 1: to throw her political alignments aside to make a point. Um.
Speaker 1: And then her second I don't think so honey was
Speaker 1: at the Live Show, Second Live Show. She was the
Speaker 1: first trollball draw of that show. Jennifer Garner via Trollball. Um,
Speaker 1: she I believe she used the phrase capital one bitch.
Speaker 1: You know. UM, I think she did really well with
Speaker 1: that with Jennifer Garner because then she shared afterwards when
Speaker 1: we spoke to her afterwards at the intermission, she said
Speaker 1: she actually loves Jennifer Garner and the fact that she's
Speaker 1: able to turn that part of her brain off her.
Speaker 1: You know, let me just go easy, because I love
Speaker 1: Jennifer Garner. No, she's not hard. She even came from
Speaker 1: her marriage. She came from her marriage to me. Presents
Speaker 1: a problem, okay, because if you're such a feminist while
Speaker 1: you're trying to tear it down another woman for her marriage.
Speaker 1: And also, why are you attacking a movie with a
Speaker 1: female lead. I think the Cole Silverberg is a wolf
Speaker 1: and sheep's clothing. I think she is branded as a
Speaker 1: feminist and someone who shakes facebook up in a good way.
Speaker 1: But I see through it, and I see someone who
Speaker 1: wants to end the careers of young actresses who embody, spirit, grit,
Speaker 1: and grace. I won't question Marcia's feminist um alignments her
Speaker 1: her beliefs, but I will just ask the listener right now,
Speaker 1: go back about forty five seconds, um, and just listen
Speaker 1: to the part where Matt Rodgers refers to Marcia as
Speaker 1: my Marcia. Why the possessive, Why the possessive? He's possessive?
Speaker 1: Is Marcia never problems? Marcia chattle to Matt. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I think that Marcia fly with the other Eagles. Matt
Speaker 1: is not a feminist, okay, And this is unbelievable that
Speaker 1: you are such trash. You have a shitty ass. Your
Speaker 1: mom never told you how to wipe your ask. It's funny, Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like you have an ask that has shipped on.
Speaker 1: I've been hearing this insult handed down. I believe Tim
Speaker 1: Murray on social media called said I have a shitty ass,
Speaker 1: and I said as well. Tim picked it up. And
Speaker 1: you know the fact that Matt's team members have to
Speaker 1: resort to there's a lot of borrow but the fact
Speaker 1: that Matt's team members have to resort to borrowed language
Speaker 1: is quite tragic. Um, they can't come up with their
Speaker 1: own because there's so much. Let's go to go to
Speaker 1: the last matchup. This is Diva Deluxe. This is Diva
Speaker 1: Deluxe Deluxe. I looked over a hot engineer, Whill, and
Speaker 1: he was just like raising his eyebrows at that run.
Speaker 1: Will is exhaust Well, you know what he's getting paid. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is Diva Deluxe. And this is a huge one.
Speaker 1: This is the this little end round one one, and
Speaker 1: you know this is this is Diva Deluxe. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm like, this is Dvin Deluke. These
Speaker 1: are Deluxe divas, and this is as big as it gets.
Speaker 1: And the reason these two are parents together is because
Speaker 1: they both created moments in the second I don't think
Speaker 1: So Honey Live that stopped the world, world stop. It
Speaker 1: took a minute, but it did carry on, but it
Speaker 1: was they were shocking moments, shocking. Let's go through them, alright,
Speaker 1: And my team is Michelle Buteau. Now this to me
Speaker 1: is an iconic, iconic comedian who I'm I'm so thrilled
Speaker 1: in gags. She's doing this show her first. I don't
Speaker 1: think so Honey, I don't think so Honey Live. I mean,
Speaker 1: we were just honored for her that she even was there,
Speaker 1: and she came out and shut down uh act one.
Speaker 1: She went last. She said, people who don't funk with
Speaker 1: the song deskbus and by the end of that song,
Speaker 1: by the end of that I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: I fucked with Desposito and I was who she was
Speaker 1: talking to because I didn't work with And I have
Speaker 1: Michelle Boe to think I'm gonna cross party lines here,
Speaker 1: and I have Michelle bu too to think for um
Speaker 1: being the first person to ever say the words or
Speaker 1: the name Cardi B and my presence like that was
Speaker 1: the first time I ever heard about Cardi B. This
Speaker 1: is someone who sets the tone of culture absolutely. And
Speaker 1: her second I don't think so honey, when she was
Speaker 1: invited to be a guest on our show was if
Speaker 1: you're invited to my house and you don't bring ship,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Really, Um setting the tone
Speaker 1: for etiquette in people's homes henceforth. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: both of these are about behavioral things, and for her
Speaker 1: to sort of want to be corrective about behavior is
Speaker 1: dangerous and unwill be. And you know she wants to
Speaker 1: tell me how to live my life. That's that's not
Speaker 1: gonna be. That's not gonna fly when you've been living
Speaker 1: it incorrectly. Okay, So my oh, I'm so excited for
Speaker 1: my teammate, my team member for this. This is Annie Donley.
Speaker 1: Now she what she did at this live show was
Speaker 1: let's just walk through this beat by beat. She comes
Speaker 1: on stage with a giant fucking hat of her own.
Speaker 1: Then for the black sun hat, bold pink lit rude
Speaker 1: to come into our house and now wear our hat
Speaker 1: but anyway, stone cold look on her face like she
Speaker 1: was too fucking good to be there, and we were
Speaker 1: gagged from the second she walked on stage with that
Speaker 1: were her face. We were like, oh my god, Diva Deluxe.
Speaker 1: And then she walks on stage stacks that our own
Speaker 1: culturalista's hat on her own hat. She knew what she
Speaker 1: was doing. She came prepared, she came correct, and she
Speaker 1: her I don't think so, Honey, was Matt Rodgers and
Speaker 1: bow and Yang. Now, people have definitely come come for
Speaker 1: us before, and I don't think so many that we know,
Speaker 1: but this was above and beyond explosive. And I will
Speaker 1: say before we get into this, I will reference something
Speaker 1: that she done on social media. She she she challenged
Speaker 1: herself and she posted a status a few months ago
Speaker 1: like the status and read your asked like a fucking
Speaker 1: drag queen, honey, And she got hundreds and hundreds and
Speaker 1: hundreds of likes. Read almost all of those people to filth. God.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's a dangerous person, dangerous person, and it's
Speaker 1: definitely it's definitely gonna be very um very interesting to
Speaker 1: watch and see what she does. I just wonder, have
Speaker 1: we seen the best of what she can offer. We've
Speaker 1: seen her. I just wonder, can it get any better
Speaker 1: or bigger than coming from the host of the podcast
Speaker 1: and roasting us as a pair, as individuals and for
Speaker 1: what we stand for. I don't know. I think she
Speaker 1: might have blown her fucking load with her huge you
Speaker 1: know penis her her Facebook post about reading people like
Speaker 1: Draftford just hundreds of comments deep. That was the Benghazi
Speaker 1: hearing of her. If we're gonna if Annie is Hillary,
Speaker 1: that was her Benghazi hearing. Just the stamina that just
Speaker 1: putting up with people's bullshit, being like, why aren't you
Speaker 1: hurry up on your reads? Why aren't your reads coming in?
Speaker 1: She took her to time. She was cool as a
Speaker 1: cucomber the whole time, delivered on these I don't thinks
Speaker 1: on on these reeds like call it with Joe and Boosters.
Speaker 1: We'll bring up as an example, she said, and I
Speaker 1: quote fat femination, more like microderm abrasion, get your skin fixed,
Speaker 1: you ugly or something like that. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: I am I am just girding my loins. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that it's not going to be a fucking fight,
Speaker 1: but you know what, that's why it's Steven de Luxe.
Speaker 1: That's why Steven lux and I just want to quote
Speaker 1: a couple more things from her, just to take about
Speaker 1: to her. I don't think so, honey, um, she said,
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers, can can we hang out? Can we be friends?
Speaker 1: Because it seems like all your friends get famous except
Speaker 1: for you got hurt. And then she said to me
Speaker 1: and bow and Yang sponsored by Spoke, no, sponsored by
Speaker 1: warby Parker, Honey, it's you want to get fucked. It's
Speaker 1: called one D. And then she said she emphatically added
Speaker 1: a period to that whole whole piece by saying, contacts Hunt,
Speaker 1: go back and listen to the audio, because the audience
Speaker 1: is fucking do they go fucking crazy almost as much
Speaker 1: as they were screaming from from Michelle Bote, but almost
Speaker 1: as much. You have to listen to the audience during
Speaker 1: any Downley's Um, I don't think so many of the
Speaker 1: audience is just wailing and screaming and going this battle
Speaker 1: pairing is gonna shut it down. It's gonna shut it down,
Speaker 1: and that will end round one. And then there is
Speaker 1: a little bit of a twist or some twist. So
Speaker 1: Matt and Bowen, the two of us, we each have
Speaker 1: a steal of someone who's been eliminated from the other team,
Speaker 1: who then will compete on our team in round two. Yes,
Speaker 1: so then then we have, yes, a redemption, which is
Speaker 1: one of us just taking back one of our own
Speaker 1: eliminated team members to fight at our side one. So truly,
Speaker 1: if they lose the first round, it's not over. They
Speaker 1: can still go on to win. Again, this is going
Speaker 1: to be very much a gag. This will be judges
Speaker 1: Jill Kim Booster, Michelle Collins and a surprise eyes third
Speaker 1: mystery guests joh which will be revealed, which will be
Speaker 1: revealed now. Um, we're we can't wait. We hope this
Speaker 1: little rundown has given you all the context you need.
Speaker 1: This is considered this a primer for going into Tuesday night,
Speaker 1: November seven. Yes, tomorrow tomorrow culture and I don't think
Speaker 1: so many Death Match PM seven pm doors at Villain
Speaker 1: three or seven Kent Avenue. Yes, by tickets now because
Speaker 1: you don't want to get to the to the door
Speaker 1: and have to pay a little bit more honey. But
Speaker 1: again it's a part of New York Comedy Festival. We're
Speaker 1: so excited. It's going to be a blood bath. But Also,
Speaker 1: I love fest. I love fest in a blood bath. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's the beautiful thing about all of this. This is
Speaker 1: all for love, all out of love. What we did
Speaker 1: for love. This show bitch yes now matt Any closing thoughts, uh,
Speaker 1: fuck you, fuck you. That's it. By By. This has
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