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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Happy Thursday, Happy New Year, Happy twenty twenty six. As

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Speaker 2: we ring in the new year with some ball. Is

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Speaker 2: there a better way than that? I don't think there is.

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Speaker 2: We got a triple header college football playoff action today.

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Speaker 2: We have dissected Jeff's Ducks taking on Texas Tech. Jeff

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Speaker 2: to you know, to recap it here, Jeff thinks that, hey,

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Speaker 2: if Oregon takes care of the football, they're winning this game.

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech they make their hay on short fields, right, Jeff, Right,

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Speaker 2: they do buddy football, make them go the long way,

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Speaker 2: and that's going to be to the Ducks advantage. Texas Tech,

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Speaker 2: like a lot of Oregon opponents, if they get in

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Speaker 2: the thirties, they got a real shot here. And he's

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Speaker 2: not saying it they have to get there to have

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Speaker 2: a shot. He's just saying they've got a much better

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Speaker 2: shot because Oregon's record starts to go south when they

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Speaker 2: allow thirty plus points, so.

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Speaker 3: That seven otherwise they are forty to ozho when they

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Speaker 3: allow less than thirty points.

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Speaker 1: By the way, did you see the graphic.

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Speaker 2: They showed it for a millisecond last night, but Ryan

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Speaker 2: Day heading into the fourth quarter while trailing. Since twenty

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Speaker 2: nineteen one in seven, you can make that one in

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Speaker 2: eight now. So not a whole lot of comeback from

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Speaker 2: behind success at interesting Ohio State. Yeah, and some of

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Speaker 2: them think about that, some of those games, like you're

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Speaker 2: the much more talented team against a much lesser talented

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Speaker 2: Michigan team. A lot of those years in that losing streak,

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Speaker 2: you're not coming back against them time and time again.

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Speaker 2: So one thing to keep in mind. How about how

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Speaker 2: about we look at the Rose Bowl. How about Alabama

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Speaker 2: against Indiana. We got IU seven point favorites, the total

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Speaker 2: is forty eight and a half.

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Speaker 1: We got rain, We got rain going.

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Speaker 2: I've been raining steady drizzle over there in Pasadena. And

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Speaker 2: what do you think about that that? I know, it's

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Speaker 2: like the super Bowl. Never rains during the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, Prince is playing in the purple

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Speaker 2: rain like when it's the Bears and Colts, so every

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Speaker 2: now and then it does. So, uh, they said there

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Speaker 2: might be a little pocket of no rain for this

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Speaker 2: Rose Bowl game, which would make sense. It's raining cats

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Speaker 2: and dogs until the game kicks off, and then for

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Speaker 2: a portion of it it's it's dry, but I think

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Speaker 2: that's a major deal in this game, Jeff, like Alabama

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Speaker 2: sucky running game. If this is more of a you know,

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Speaker 2: a rock em sock em, we got to run the

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Speaker 2: ball to be effective. Like that is disadvantage Alabama all

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Speaker 2: day Alabama.

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Speaker 3: I can't I'm saying this is worse in the end.

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Speaker 3: In the trenches.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, they they they're they camera.

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Speaker 3: The football, which obviously you know doesn't help with the

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Speaker 3: efficiency wise a plupper Hereabama is eighty fourth and rushing

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Speaker 3: success rates. How about this yards per successful rush, yards

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Speaker 3: per rush, no sacks, So including the sacks, where are

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Speaker 3: they ranking the.

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Speaker 1: Country excluding sacks?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, obviously because sacks are included in the rushing total.

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Speaker 3: So if you remove that, just talking yards per rush

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Speaker 2: Oh, yards per rush no sacks, they're low man, Like

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Speaker 2: I would guess man somewhere in the nineties, maybe something

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Speaker 3: One hundred thirty six teams in individual and football. And

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Speaker 3: then on the flip side, they don't rush the passer Brian.

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Speaker 1: They have a non existent pass rush.

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Speaker 3: One hundred and nineteenth the country and pressure rate and

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Speaker 3: PFF ranks their pass rush one hundred and thirty first

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Speaker 3: of the country. So that benefits of well, we sacked

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Speaker 3: the quarterback a lot. Yeah, yes, and no, like you

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Speaker 3: had five sets in Oklahoma. The the three previous SEC

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Speaker 3: games you played, you had four sacks totals. So like

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Speaker 3: depends on the game who you're playing. Indiana is a

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Speaker 3: team that dude, they're a boa constrictor. Right, the more

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Speaker 3: that you breathe heavily, the more that you fight, the

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Speaker 3: more like they just constrict you. Like just like that, right,

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Speaker 3: I like that. They just they play such a discipline

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Speaker 3: brand of football. Don't make mistakes. Discipline. They don't do

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Speaker 3: a ton of stuff on offense. It's not it's not

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Speaker 3: a complex offense. I think this we get to Mendoza

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Speaker 3: as far as like a draft grade, we're gonna realize,

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Speaker 3: like the bowl over the middle of the field. Ever, like,

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Speaker 3: that's not what they do. There are a lot of

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Speaker 3: outside shots, comebacks, fades, goes, RPO, slants, r PO, you know,

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Speaker 3: the middle, spot routes, some play action pass deep, but

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Speaker 3: like not a lot of intermediate stuff that are as

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Speaker 3: part of their offense. They run inside zone a ton

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Speaker 3: primarily off R P O and then defensively. It is

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Speaker 3: a very complex defense. It is a sim pressure defense,

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Speaker 3: which for those who are.

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Speaker 2: So pressure, I love simulated pressure. So break it down.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: So, essentially you have four pass rushers correct on a

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Speaker 3: given play, you might have five if you're in base defense.

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Speaker 3: And what similar pressures mean is that you're essentially gonna

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Speaker 1: It look like you're gonna rush seven right.

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Speaker 3: And so you might rush like four from the left

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Speaker 3: You might rush two up the middle, two off the edge,

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Speaker 3: and then drop two guys out that are lined up

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Speaker 3: over the guards like those guys drop me out. Could

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Speaker 3: be defensive linemen, could be linebackers, could be safeties. Like

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Speaker 3: you're just so, you're simulating pressure and you're trying to

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Speaker 3: end up in this it worked well against Oregon. You're

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Speaker 3: trying to end up with as an offensive line former

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Speaker 3: offense line and I am the goal for us as

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman is to block us five block to five

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Speaker 3: most dangerous right. And what simular pressures do is they

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Speaker 3: try to have the offensive lineman block three of the

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Speaker 1: Quarterback, create a mismatch correct and that's what.

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Speaker 3: It's trying to do. And they did that really well

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Speaker 3: against against organ in the first game, and so that's

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Speaker 3: what they're trying to do. They're trying to get bring

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Speaker 3: the quarterback. Sometimes I love bringing this up because people

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Speaker 3: I think don't understand this. There are times when when

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Speaker 3: there are free runners right at the quarterback. Guys are

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Speaker 3: not blocked. That are the responsibility of the quarterback. They're

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Speaker 3: not responsibility for us. Yeah, they're not responsibility of the

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Speaker 3: running back of the tight end. They are free and

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Speaker 3: the adjustment is obviously you have a site route like

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Speaker 3: that is how Indiana plays defense. And against Alabama offensive line,

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Speaker 3: I'm even really going to confuse them, really really, you'll

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Speaker 3: confuse him a lot. My concern about this game is

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Speaker 3: the bye is the buy situation? Because Signetti mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: I love he's so honest. He's just like as honest

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Speaker 3: as they come. He said, we have not practiced very

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Speaker 3: well and that concerns me. Now, Kirby Smart. We've heard

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Speaker 3: his team practice. It sort of feels like a thing

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Speaker 3: that's happening right now. But I think he just wants

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Speaker 3: them to be ready for this game. It's a Rose Bowl, man,

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be ready to play this game. I like

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Speaker 3: Indiana cover this game. I have not made a wager

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Speaker 3: any of these numbers yet I have, so what waitning

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Speaker 3: four is this? Yesterday we saw a ton of money

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Speaker 3: come in on Miami before kickoff. I'm waiting for the

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Speaker 3: six to pop up for Indiana today. I think I

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Speaker 3: think we'll get a six. I'm waiting for that because

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Speaker 3: people a gonna wake up and be like, Bama's a sama. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think we'll get a six. If we get six today,

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Speaker 3: I'll take Indiana.

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know that's the thing too, man, is

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of brand recognition here. And if you

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Speaker 2: put this same Alabama team, same you know, same strengths,

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Speaker 2: same weaknesses, you put them in different colored uniforms and

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Speaker 2: call them Vanderbilt, they're twelve point dogs in this game.

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Speaker 2: They are twelve point underdogs. I think the brand of

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Speaker 2: Bama is making a big impact betting wise, because look,

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Speaker 2: they don't run the ball, they have no pass rush.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is Indiana. They blitz at a forty

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Speaker 2: eight percent clip, that's thirteenth in the country. They send

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Speaker 2: a lot of pressure, and ty Simpson has shown a

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff like inability to handle a legitimate pass rush.

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Speaker 2: He's looked skittish at times, He's been inaccurate at times.

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Speaker 2: He had no answers against Georgia in the SEC Championship game.

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Speaker 2: And so there are multiple things going directly against Alabama

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Speaker 2: in this matchup.

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Speaker 1: Might be a little.

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Speaker 2: Soggy, might be a little drizzly, right, that could impact

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Speaker 2: the passing game as well. So I'm all over Indiana

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Speaker 2: in this game. I have not bought into Alabama all

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Speaker 2: season long. I think their deficiencies come back to bite

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Speaker 2: them in a big way. And give them credit, they

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Speaker 2: found a way to win eleven games, somehow, some way.

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Speaker 2: They've got it done, and they do bring some strength

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Speaker 2: to the table, but their formula for success is unsustainable.

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Speaker 2: They cannot keep winning these games with no pass rush,

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Speaker 2: no running game, and beat quality opponents in the playoff

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Speaker 2: one after another.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. And you know you mentioned that the

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Speaker 3: pressure rate for Indiana, but it's not they're not bringing

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Speaker 3: five or six guys like that's that's what makes it

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Speaker 3: so like they're bringing four but then dropping seven to cover.

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Speaker 1: The camouflying it right, Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: Really hard to figure out what you know where they're at. So,

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Speaker 3: but you think about Indiana too. That's so unique is

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Speaker 3: that we have this, uh the blue chip ratio right

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Speaker 3: where essentially the last like twenty champions have had this

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Speaker 3: amount of blue chip guys in the ross are four

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Speaker 3: and five star players. Indiana would would break the mold

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Speaker 3: of that. Now. Part of that is the portal has

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Speaker 3: changed the way we evaluate players. But in most games

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Speaker 3: you would look at and be like, well, Alabama's the

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Speaker 3: more talented team, and in college football that does matter

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Speaker 3: a lot, right, the more talented team tends to win

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Speaker 3: more often the team that just sort of like the

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Speaker 3: plucky underdog. But Indiana, and with the way they've played,

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Speaker 3: if if I wins today, it wouldn't shock me right

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Speaker 3: now they have better players overall on their team.

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Speaker 2: I mean I'd be surprised that you can't be shocked

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Speaker 2: like that's come on, yeah, it.

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Speaker 3: Would surprise you. But if you get if you look

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Speaker 3: at the rosters and yeah, sure, like that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: But that's what Indiana's secret power is. It's like they're

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Speaker 3: the way they play football. It's such a clean brand

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Speaker 3: of football, mistake free football. Well for not to mention

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Speaker 3: this too about Oregon, Texas Tech or Texas Tech is

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Speaker 3: like one hundred and twenty of the country and penalty

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Speaker 3: yards averaged over two penalties a game on offensive line.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they're hoping that the officiating crew from

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Speaker 2: last night is wow.

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Speaker 3: Well so because Oregon, so Oregon is like Organ's secondary

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Speaker 3: is very physical and depends on the officiating crew.

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Speaker 2: You get if the officials class that were like penalties,

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Speaker 2: even think about throwing a flag.

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Speaker 3: And Texas Tech arounds a ton of go routes and

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Speaker 3: In my mind, I agree, man, I I like you too.

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Speaker 1: Go money line Indiana and yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I already have Indiana Georgia in a parlay together, not

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Speaker 1: I think so too. I think so I will have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, little money on ole miss a little bit. It's

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Speaker 3: To remember all we had to trazy. We heard it,

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Speaker 2: No, he made some brilliant plays last season, and it's

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Speaker 1: It's wild.

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Speaker 2: It's at two twenty and a half right now. Now

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Speaker 2: the interesting thing is Ty Simpson's number hasn't ticked down

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Speaker 3: unless it's really windy. Wind is the biggest problem. It's

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Speaker 3: any discussion anyone ever has about Lamar Jackson.

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00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: No doubt that's that's true.

436
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 3: I talked earlier about you know, I just I just

437
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 3: don't love the offense being so centered around his ability

438
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: to run, yeah, not his ability to pass. Well, that

439
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: would change if they win a championship. Was who you know,

440
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 3: what what am I to say? Like, I mean, you know, like, okay,

441
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 3: number three would be brought.

442
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: Pretty Yeah, well, I was close to you.

443
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 2: I had purty second, because look, man, for people like

444
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: me who say he's.

445
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: Good, he's not great.

446
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 2: He's not elite he's not a difference maker like all

447
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: those people who have to shut up and take the

448
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: l if he wins at all, Like and that's part

449
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: of his brand. He's known as the last pick of

450
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 2: the draft.

451
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: He's known.

452
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: They'll say it on a telecast today, like, well he

453
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 2: still is mister irrelevant, even though he's playing really good football.

454
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: Look, yeah he's been.

455
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: It's he's been a polarizing guy even though he's like

456
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: a not a polarizing person at all. Like he's lunch pale,

457
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: I'm wearing my Dockers, I'm doing my job. Like he's

458
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: not this lightning rod of controversy. It's just his game.

459
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is like being the last pick.

460
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 2: Some people doubting him, like his protectors like protecting the

461
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 2: sanctity of Brockberdy and that you got this back and

462
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: forth oil and water mixture. But like he would go

463
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: from the last pick of the draft to a Super

464
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 2: Bowl champion, especially for that franchise, it would be mammoth

465
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: for him, There's no doubt, and that back and forth

466
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 2: stuff would just cease.

467
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: You're right about that.

468
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 2: I didn't put Lamar on my list because and you're right,

469
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: it would it would do a world of good for him.

470
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: I just don't think the Ravens have a shot this season.

471
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I can't logically right, And I

472
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: know you're not saying that. I just can't logically like

473
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 2: walk down the road of Hey, maybe the Ravens win

474
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: it all. They have no chance to win it all

475
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: this season.

476
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the rest of the of the of

477
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 3: the list of playoff teams, and I think, I honestly

478
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: think on my list ends it those three quarterbacks and

479
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: really else, Yeah, anyone else winning. There's no pressure any

480
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 3: else to win.

481
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: Look, yeah, pressure is a different thing. Benefit of winning.

482
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 3: What would it benefit Justin Herbert to win a Championship's

483
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 3: not gonna win a championship? Would absolutely benefit It would

484
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: have benefit Bo Knicks and Trevor.

485
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 2: Lawrence, I benefit everybody, but I would I would have

486
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: third on my list, Jeff.

487
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: Sam, I have Donald. I got Donald on my list.

488
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: So I I think it's yeah, so Alan Party, Lamar Darnald,

489
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: Let those four feel like right, you could say, Jordan Love,

490
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 3: but the Patris are winning a championship, so massofs already

491
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 3: won a championship. Caleb's not winning their two. They're two,

492
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 3: they're too young, not ready for that yet. Hurts has

493
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: already won, you know, Like I mean Rogers wins one more,

494
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 3: maybe he's looked at differently, but like that's huge.

495
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: You got a couple of legacy quarterbacks, like you just

496
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 2: mentioned Rogers Stafford. If you're if Stafford is able to

497
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: win his second one, we're talking legacy type stuff. Rogers

498
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: winning a second one like two with two different franchises,

499
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: that's the way he rides off into the sunset. That

500
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: would be enormous, right, be big for every one of

501
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: these guys. So U yeah, man, but that would be

502
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: my top three, like without my brain like wrapped around. Hey, hey,

503
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: Lamar could win it all, I would go Josh Allen

504
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: Purty Donold.

505
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 3: No, he's not going to. Is matstaff for a Hall

506
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: of Famer without another championship?

507
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 2: He should be. He should absolutely be a Hall of Famer.

508
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: That that shouldn't even be a question. Like he's put

509
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: up Like the thing is, he's put up numbers the

510
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: whole time. He put up numbers in Detroit when that

511
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: was not a talented roster. Now granted he had Megatron

512
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: for a big stretch there, but he had no defense.

513
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 2: He had no special teams, and he's getting knocked for

514
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: not winning enough, and it's like, dude, got be you

515
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: gotta be realistic about how much he should have been

516
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: winning there with what he had to work with overall.

517
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: So I absolutely think he should be a Hall of Famer.

518
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: You do you think he doesn't Oh no, wow.

519
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: If he doesn't win, if he doesn't win an MVP,

520
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: this show have the omvp's first career. Uh huh, he'll

521
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 3: have minimal All pros for his career. I've been a

522
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: ton of Pro Bowls. We're going to get to the

523
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: point of NFL players that have just compiled a ton

524
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: of staff as they play longer now pass the ball

525
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: war And I wonder if that excuse the way we

526
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: look at a lot of these guys.

527
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: I mean, look, my I think you know what something

528
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: else is part of that. I think it's the Eli

529
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: Manning syndrome. If Eli Manning gets in, and he's going

530
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: to he's going to get in like he won two

531
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: Super Bowls in dramatic fashion, beat an undefeated team, the

532
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: whole thing.

533
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: We know his story.

534
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: He's going to get in. Whether you think he should

535
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 2: or not, He's getting in there. If you have Eli

536
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: Manning in there, how in the world do you not

537
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: have Matthew Stafford in there? Like, I think that's going

538
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: to enter into some of the voters' minds when we

539
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: get down to it with Stafford, Like, how do we

540
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: have a Hall of Fame with Eli Manning and no Stafford?

541
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 2: That didn't make sense? That's crazy.

542
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: I think it's I think the stelling point for Eli.

543
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: And as I mentioned you, I think you have to

544
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: be the best like at your position for some period

545
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: of time, or at least be up there.

546
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and he wasn't he?

547
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: But then there are suing circumstances where Eli was so

548
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: good in those two posts and runs two times for

549
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 3: MVP that, like you have to consider that doesn't outweigh

550
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 3: any of the other factors, right, and as right now

551
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: st Stafford doesn't have those right, doesn't have that at

552
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: the moment.

553
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: How about Phil How about Philip Rivers?

554
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: I don't think he's I don't think he's Hall of Famer.

555
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: But do you think he will get in right? Like

556
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: you might not think Eli is, but he's gonna get in.

557
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: Do you think that Rivers gets it? He's a shoe

558
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 2: in now? Like the comeback story, the Disney thing, Like

559
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 2: he didn't embarrass himself at all.

560
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: He's carving up the Niners.

561
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: So he gets he gets smart, he gets five extra

562
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: years of insurance now and gets an extra year pension

563
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: and benefits. What. It's just a brilliant business.

564
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: Staring pretty good. And I think that impacted his chances.

565
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 2: Like I don't think he went from the sporderline, I

566
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: don't know to like, oh yeah, I don't think it

567
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: was like that, but I absolutely think it helped his

568
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: chances five years from now, came back forty four out

569
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: of football and didn't embarrass himself at all, had had

570
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: a couple of decent performances when it's all said and done,

571
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: So I actually think it helps his candidate.

572
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: I don't think it's all of Famer at all. I

573
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: mean he might get in, but I mean that doesn't

574
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: mean I agree with it.

575
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: No problem, he's going to get in, But I'm problem think.

576
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 3: I just don't think are Hall of famers yeah that

577
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: are going to get in at some point. But yeah,

578
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: I mean Rivers, yeah, you're probably right, probably gets in.

579
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: Stafford gets in. Obviously, Stafford wins again this season. He's

580
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: definitely Oh yeah at that point.

581
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: And so you know, how about Russ? How about our

582
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: guy Russ? Did he play himself out of it?

583
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: I don't think he's all famer to begin with the

584
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: same sort of idea, like when was he the best

585
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: at his position? How many years was he the best

586
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: or top three is position?

587
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: I just he was never the best, but he was

588
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: awesome in Seattle for ten years, man like, and then

589
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: it just went south quickly.

590
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

591
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: He probably isn't gonna.

592
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: Get in, man be cause it's it's like the last

593
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: impression thing, and it's not just one bad season is

594
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: the last impression. It's seasons plural, you know, and that's

595
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: your last impression over the course of years, you know.

596
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: Like I think he's played himself out of the Hall

597
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: of Fame.

598
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: I do. And I think he was in before any

599
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: of this went south. I do.

600
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: He was that are you going to put in like

601
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: half the quarterbacks of a generation? Like that's part of it, too,

602
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: Like how many guys are you going to put in?

603
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: If if Wilson goes in, I mean you put you're

604
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 3: gonna put in basically every sort of like winning ish

605
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: quarterback of a generation at some point you have to

606
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: cut the light off.

607
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, I think that's the point. Like, I

608
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to get in anymore.

609
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think.

610
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: I don't think, Like, ask yourself this, how you feel

611
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: about him?

612
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: Now?

613
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: Are you going to feel better about him five years

614
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: from now when he's been out of the NFL? You know, like, no,

615
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: you're not. It's not gonna happen.

616
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: So I think he's probably not making I don't think

617
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: Rivers is making it.

618
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: Oh he's absolutely made making.

619
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: But Stafford winning this year would would certainly oh yeah,

620
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: he'd be a shoe in maybe for Spoel.

621
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer that, oh, no doubt.

622
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: So I think that, you know, from just like a

623
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: legacy perspective, it's important for him to win this year,

624
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: but it doesn't secure it doesn't change his life really

625
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: at all, I think.

626
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: Right right right, he's still he's knighted, you know, winning

627
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: that first one, with everything that he had done individually

628
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: before that, he was knighted as you know, like one

629
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: of the better quarterbacks and uh, you know, a borderline.

630
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. That was huge.

631
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: That was a that was a perception shifter right there,

632
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: because fair or not. He was known for losing. He

633
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: was known for never having playoff success, never doing anything

634
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: postseason wise, And now you can't say that anymore. That

635
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: was how big it was beating the Bengals.

636
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: I'm kind of I'm trying to think of like a

637
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: position player who needs a championship this season.

638
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: Okay, it's just you know, it's we all know.

639
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work the same way.

640
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: I know.

641
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 2: First thing like who would benefit the most, who's a

642
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: non quarterback?

643
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: That's an interesting thought.

644
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I don't really have one off the top

645
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: of my head. Like Trent Williams already Hall of Famer,

646
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: it didn't need a Super Bowl to win.

647
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: It, right, right, right to be a Hall of Famer.

648
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: It's such a different deal, right.

649
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: You know, Lane's already won two like you know that,

650
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: you know, like there's no pass rusher right now that

651
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: I look at him like that. Guys, a legacy needs

652
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: to win for his legacy.

653
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: I mean it's not a legacy thing, but maybe it's

654
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Speaker 2: just a reputation perception thing. If the Eagles won again

655
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: and A J. Brown came up big. You know all

656
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: the time that we spend and it's true, like he's

657
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: a distraction. He's a diva, like he's a walking soap opera.

658
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Speaker 2: If all of a sudden, he's just productive in the

659
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Speaker 2: postseason and he's a difference maker all of a sudden,

660
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Speaker 2: the negative stuff that's a focal point that goes away

661
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: and we focus on the playmaking ability, his production, all

662
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Speaker 2: that type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: That would be a big deal.

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Speaker 2: If AJ Brown was like big in there in their run,

665
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Speaker 2: like instrumental in there and in another Super Bowl run,

666
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Speaker 2: I think that would that changed his perception quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: It would, it would he There's no wouldn't really on

668
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: the top of my head, like a position player who

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00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: like needs the Super Bowl to looking for a legacy

670
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: or just the needs it for anything. I mean, I

671
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: was winning, fantastic. What coach needs it the most?

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Speaker 1: Wow? What coach needs that's another good question.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I I can't answer it immediately, but

674
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Speaker 2: I can just throw out a few names. Right, Shannon,

675
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: that's a great name. That's got to be the that's

676
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Speaker 2: got to be the guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he's playing three Super Bowls as a coach, right.

678
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Speaker 1: And think about what he's known for three yep, and

679
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: then he lost twice the right ye.

680
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: Lost twice, the Chiefs being up double digits in both games,

681
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Speaker 3: and there's no Mahomes and there's you know, no, there's

682
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: no Tom Brady right, Like this is in this argument

683
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: for Buffalo, It's like, this is the year you have

684
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: no Mahomes, I know it, and and know Joe Burrow

685
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: who you struggle with the pass, like this is the

686
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: this is the year to do it.

687
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Speaker 2: And there is and you also have no rush defense,

688
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: you know, which you can come back to bite you.

689
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: You have a bunch of like number two, number three

690
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: receivers that could come back to bite you. So I

691
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: hear you, like, this is the year to strike. I

692
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: just don't know that they have the goods to strike.

693
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Speaker 3: No, they absolutely do not. Yeah, and they're gonna they're

694
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: a seventh seed right now. I don't know if they're

695
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: gonna play any stars this weekend. Maybe they're the sixth

696
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: seed and go to Jacksonville. But they're gonna go to

697
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: New England, who they have lost you once and they

698
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: beat you know in that thirty five one game. But

699
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: every Bills game feels like it has to be won thirty.

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Speaker 1: Five thirty one, Right, dude, They're not going.

701
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Speaker 3: To play Eagles offense in this, you know, come out

702
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, so every game tell me one like that,

703
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: which makes me every team really has like a final

704
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: fall in my opinion in this postseason, they do, and

705
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: who can overcome it the most?

706
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And that's the funny thing is the Patriots face flaw

708
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 2: is just a lack of postseason experience. You know, I

709
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: look at them roster wise, and I'm like, I'm not like, oh,

710
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: they just can't run the ball at all, or they

711
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: just can't do this at all. That's not what they are.

712
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 2: It's just they don't have a ton of experience, which

713
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Speaker 2: could come back to bite them. But as far as

714
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Speaker 2: like their roster, and I don't think there's a fatal

715
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Speaker 2: flaw like that.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's Yeah, I.

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00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: Mean they're they're they're not good enough in my opinion,

718
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: offensive line, wide.

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Speaker 1: Receiver, tackles type.

720
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like not good enough of those positions.

721
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Speaker 1: Dynamic, yeah, the championship.

722
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Speaker 3: I think in this in this uh it look Dix

723
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: is probably not playing the postseason.

724
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Speaker 1: Oh no, he's definitely playing in the postseason.

725
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: He's playing.

726
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's playing, like.

727
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: Buy more pay that right?

728
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know I'm not sure if if

729
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: bar is gonna go, but yeah, this thing with Digs. Look, man,

730
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: this is me say like downplaying what's alleged to have happened.

731
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna play right, right, But this is dude.

732
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 2: We I've been around the NFL long enough where it's

733
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: like his arraignment is and I could be screwing the

734
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: timeline up, but it's like the day before the divisional

735
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: round or something something like that, right, So we've seen

736
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: far worse. This is like an adult conversation. We've seen

737
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: far worse allegations. And like the team the NFL, they're like, hey,

738
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: until we know for sure that these are serious allegations, right,

739
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: But until we know for sure this has proven to

740
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: have happened, we kind of operate as if might not have, right,

741
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: Like that's more times than not how it goes.

742
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: And the thing is so interesting because the NFL used

743
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: to be like really steadfast in there and their their

744
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: minds about punishing players and like as soon as possible.

745
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: And I always argue they should wait because it's not

746
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 3: that they're not an investigative body, right, Like their job

747
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: is not to there's people that are in.

748
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: Charge of investigating crimes, right, but they're not.

749
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 3: But then the situation like this where it's like, these

750
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: allegations are very serious and him playing through them feels

751
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: kind of icky. But I can't, I can't. I can't

752
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 3: argue both things. I've argued before that they need to

753
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: let the process play out because that's sort of the

754
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: job of the investigation, right to let it play out

755
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 3: and then figure it out. But it does feel gross

756
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: having a player in the postseason.

757
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing allegations, right, and that's I think

758
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: we overlook how tough of a spot the NFL is in, right,

759
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: because like they don't they don't know so.

760
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 3: Because they wanted to be the crimate punishment lead.

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00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: I know, I know.

762
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, even though put that to the

763
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: side for a second, because the story with Stefawn Diggs,

764
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: or the story with any serious allegations, the dig story specifically,

765
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: it was his personal chef, a female. There was an

766
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: argument over money, and she alleges he hit her and

767
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: was choking her. These are serious allegations, right, He's facing

768
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: a felony, also a misdemeanor.

769
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: It's a whole thing. And so the NFL they're.

770
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: In this spot where it's like, Okay, he's not allowed

771
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: to play because this might be true. And if it's

772
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: not proven to be true, it's like, why wouldn't you

773
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: let letting this guy play. He's innocent until proven guilty, right,

774
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: I thought that was the thing. And then if they're like, okay,

775
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: he can play, and he plays a bunch of games

776
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: and then it's proven that it did happen, then they

777
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: look like, I don't care. Like they're in a tough

778
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: position either way with what they choose to do.

779
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: That is because they did this themselves, right, they decided

780
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: to be this league that wanted to be the crime

781
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: puzzer league. This is not the way people feel about

782
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: baseball or basketball when anything happens. But they're like, NFL,

783
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 3: you punish the players now, right, because they.

784
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: Brought us on themselves, hey man, and I hear you.

785
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: I think it came from a good place, but it

786
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: led to the next situation. The next situation is like,

787
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do now? Like if Adrian Peterson's

788
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: son has welt marks all over himself, right, and the

789
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: NFL says he's on the exempt until we know exactly

790
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 2: right what's going on here, Well, then the next story,

791
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: it's like, well, what are you going to do in

792
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: this situation? Where are you going to do in that situation?

793
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: And then it becomes all about that. It's a tough

794
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: spot to be in.

795
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next the Dogs and also New

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00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: Year's resolutions for other people. Huh, we'll have some fun

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No.

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Speaker 2: Draft Kings. The crown is yours, all right, Jeff, So,

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Speaker 2: very briefly, the nightcap college football playoff game. We've got

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00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: the Sugar Bowl. We've got Ole Miss against Georgia. Georgia

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00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: taking some money, back up to a six and a

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00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: half point favorite. It had ticked down to just six,

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00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: but it's back up to six and a half. We're

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00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: both on the dogs, are we not? Like their defense

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00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: is played a lot better down the stretch. Kirby smart

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00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: Obviously the coaching advantage. Pete Golding might be a good

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00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 2: head coach one day.

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00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: You need reps. You need reps as a player, you

830
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: need reps as a coach.

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00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: And he was just an interim coach a second ago,

832
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: filling in for Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 1: So I got the dogs in this one. I think

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00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 1: they cover.

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Speaker 3: I was for a second, I was like underdogs. No way.

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Speaker 3: This game feels like it's not talked about it at all.

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00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: I mean just like sort of just like Georgia's gonna win,

838
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: and I think they are. They're much better. Their defense

839
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 3: has played so much better recently, and I think that

840
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: we're not taking that into consideration. We look at them

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00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: in some of the bigger games. They had old miscort

842
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: thirty five points of three quarters, right, Tennessee scored a

843
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: bunch early on, but then they clammed down on defense.

844
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: And their defense has just gone so much better that

845
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 3: they look they have a score touchdown against something in

846
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 3: the Nancy Gentry game. So I think they're primed to ready.

847
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: They've been here before. Terby does how to get this

848
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: team going? And you're right, Pete Golding is just not

849
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: your second game ever as a playoff game against Georgia. No,

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00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: I no, give me, give me the Bulldogs.

851
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the dogs right there? All right?

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00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: New Year's resolutions for other people, right, not for yourself.

853
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: For other people.

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00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: It's more fun this way, right, Like what should other

855
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: people have as resolutions? So it could be a person,

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00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: could be a league, could be anything in the sports world.

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00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: This is what I came up with. Jeff Hey, college football,

858
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: fix your stupid transfer portal window. Let's do that. It's

859
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: a terrible time. Hey, NFL, fix your dumb playoff format, Like,

860
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: let's see these teams based on record, not based on

861
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: all they won their division automatic home game. It's dumb

862
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: and hey Bejon Robinson, No resolutions, don't change anything. Just

863
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: stick stick with what it's working. Great, you got any

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00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: resolutions for anyone there?

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00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: Jeff Well, I kind of like how much it bothers

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00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 3: you The NFL seeds that way.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's so bad. Are we gonna argue about that

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Speaker 1: on Sunday? Please? We will? Yes, okay, we will. Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year to you and everybody else. We'll see you