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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well.

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Speaker 2: Rain Drops.

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Speaker 1: We are here to talk about the latest episode of

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Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Potomac. This episode is the girls

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Speaker 1: still on their cast trip and a lot of things

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Speaker 1: take place. The first thing first was the continuation of

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Speaker 1: Stacy Me and Dustice Michiganders.

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Speaker 3: System yes yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: Being grilled about whether or not she is dating Monique Samuels,

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Speaker 4: a former Pertomac housewife husband Chris Samuel.

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Speaker 1: So, just to recap everybody, Ashley is on ten defending

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Speaker 1: Jaselle against you know, whether or not she has a

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Speaker 1: new boyfriend, as she's like, look, word on the street

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Speaker 1: is you're dating Chris Samuel's. And one thing that Stacy

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Speaker 1: did say was that he's a great guy. He's a

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Speaker 1: great father and look, I give.

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Speaker 2: It Ashley a hard time. I do sometimes, but Ashley

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Speaker 2: did her job.

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Speaker 1: Because Ashley was asking the questions that I was asking.

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Speaker 2: To the screen, like I know all this, like close,

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Speaker 2: aren't you.

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Speaker 1: Guys for you to intimate he's a good father and

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Speaker 1: all these things. But Stacy never quite answered those questions.

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Speaker 1: So that part was interesting to me. So, Claudia, do

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Speaker 1: you do you believe Okay Stacy, who I love? Stacey

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Speaker 1: has been accused since last season of bringing on this

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Speaker 1: guy TJ as a paid actor to play the role

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Speaker 1: of her boyfriend. Athlete is alleging that she was told

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Speaker 1: that Stacy reached out to somebody who knows Chris to

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Speaker 1: see if they could meet and that's how they were introduced.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that Stacy did that in order to

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Speaker 1: possibly have a new storyline to bring on this new season?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it worked.

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Speaker 6: And if you again, I look at people's body language

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Speaker 6: and the things that they are not saying.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: So, first they asked her if she was first of

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Speaker 6: the NFL player that played for the Washington Redskins. She's

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Speaker 6: getting uncomfortable. The camera cuts her. That they great editing

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Speaker 6: by cutting her. She's like looking uncomfortable. Then she never

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Speaker 6: really answered about whether she hunted him down at first.

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Speaker 6: Then she's like, he's a great father or great friend.

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Speaker 6: How did we get here to this great father great

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Speaker 6: friend thing? Because you did, in fact reach out via publicist. Listen, honey,

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Speaker 6: we all do that. I've had a publicist look me

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Speaker 6: up before with somebody that was almost on Housewives with me,

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Speaker 6: but it didn't happen. Wait, but after I met we

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Speaker 6: were you didn't meet him, but he was.

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Speaker 5: It was in the NBA, And.

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Speaker 6: I'm so glad no one can ever put us together

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Speaker 6: and attach us now because I'd have been embarrassed at

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Speaker 6: the end.

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Speaker 2: He is, he's still in the NBA.

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Speaker 6: No, but when we were in Atlanta, his little tfo

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Speaker 6: y'all investigators wanted to look whatever. Me and him were

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Speaker 6: involved in a five car pile up accident right when

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Speaker 6: he was trying to go back, and we had to

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Speaker 6: keep it on the low because it didn't want him,

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Speaker 6: didn't he wanted to affect him getting his next another contract.

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Speaker 6: So we all and like people grow by the accident

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Speaker 6: scene where I think we're on eighty five eighty one

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Speaker 6: of those freeways and we got rear ended and four

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Speaker 6: and we were in the car together, so we had

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Speaker 5: On the lo Lo lo lo Low. I'm giving you

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Speaker 5: all crazy tea. I got to put this in my book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Anyways, that was a publicist that reached out to me

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Speaker 6: and said I have someone I want you to meet,

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Speaker 6: and I was like, I don't know because.

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Speaker 5: I see she's like no, no, no no.

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Speaker 6: And then he took a private jet to meet me

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Speaker 6: from our first date to an island that I was

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Speaker 6: at working. So I'll tell you about it later on

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Speaker 6: who it was, but I'm definitely not putting out there

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Speaker 6: now because I do not. So that was so when

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Speaker 6: I at the end of my season seven, they were

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Speaker 6: like asking me about the next season, and they MEMBERINI

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Speaker 6: made a big campaign about people need to stop showing

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Speaker 6: who they're in a relationship with.

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Speaker 5: So I had the call with Lauren and them.

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Speaker 6: They were like, we can't imagine you not coming back

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Speaker 6: season and they were like, we need to talk to

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Speaker 6: your love for interest.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, well, it's too soon.

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Speaker 6: We've only been dating for like a couple of months.

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Speaker 6: So I got him to be on the phone with

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Speaker 6: the production. They you didn't know this.

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Speaker 5: They spoke for an.

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Speaker 1: Remember I left after season seven and I was working

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Speaker 1: another show that they called him back season eight.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So they had talked to him on the phone

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Speaker 6: for an hour and he was like yes, an hour.

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Speaker 6: They were so excited they would have an NBA Bravo

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Speaker 6: collect like it would have been huge because at the

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Speaker 6: time he was still mhm and he is famous like

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Speaker 6: trust and belief, like y'all people will gag. And I

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Speaker 6: had people like to say, I can't.

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Speaker 5: Get a man. I don't have a man.

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Speaker 6: I'm very very good at keeping my shoes like quiet,

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Speaker 6: like I got married without people knowing, like you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean. So please with me with the I

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Speaker 6: can't get it. And when I do get a man,

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Speaker 6: he's going to be of stature. It's going to be

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Speaker 6: a leader. It's going to be or someone that's got

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Speaker 6: stuff going on. I don't just go get with I'm

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Speaker 6: not just gonna with the local whatever you know. I mean,

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Speaker 6: like it's not happening. I have a certain kind of

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Speaker 6: I say all that to say this. Publicists are the

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Speaker 6: middle person all the time, the middle person all the

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Speaker 6: time where they'll reach out and put a feeler out

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Speaker 6: to see so you don't look like you're not on

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Speaker 6: blast like on social media.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: So it's sick and it's a yeah. So I do

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Speaker 6: believe she did that. Not mad at these stacy, I think,

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Speaker 6: you know, but it was crazy to pick someone so

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Speaker 6: close to home. But then she went on to like

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Speaker 6: sing this man's praises that someone that's been talking to him.

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Speaker 6: So you may not have answered the question of did

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Speaker 6: you go reach out, but you did answer it with

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Speaker 6: your non answer, because then she was graving about how

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Speaker 6: great of a man. That's like if you ask me, oh,

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Speaker 6: how do you know? I mean, do you know this person?

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Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, I didn't really know, but then.

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Speaker 5: I didn't reach out to him.

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Speaker 6: But then you have all these great personal things to

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Speaker 6: say about them because you know him.

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Speaker 5: As she did her job, and I'm here for.

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Speaker 2: I did a great job. And Claudia is right.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt when they were married, they

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Speaker 1: did talk about how their publicists hooked them up together

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Speaker 1: and said, I think you guys shouldn't meet. So it

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Speaker 1: is something that goes on in Hollywood, and look, the

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Speaker 1: thing with Stacey, it's another sort of Hollywood accusation that's

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Speaker 1: on her reputation in terms of Look, she was accused

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Speaker 1: of hiring TJ to be her boyfriend. These are things

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Speaker 1: that TJ said, and now she's been accused of being

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Speaker 1: set up by publicists to date Chris Samuel's.

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Speaker 2: Which is very interesting.

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Speaker 3: That's some of your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 7: My thoughts are that Stacey Rush's addition to the Real

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Speaker 7: Housewives of Potomac has changed that show forever.

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Speaker 3: And I think it is similar for sure.

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Speaker 7: And I think that it's similar because it changed the texture,

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Speaker 7: It changed the fabric of the show, right. I think

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Speaker 7: that it was similar to the impact that Kenya and

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Speaker 7: Portia made when they joined Atlanta in season five. That

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Speaker 7: show was never the same again, never it was. It

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Speaker 7: always felt different. This season feels different. Last season felt different.

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Speaker 7: In the new we were all saying how new and

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Speaker 7: fresh and fun the show felt, and we couldn't understand

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Speaker 7: why because Mea was still there. Right this season, me

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Speaker 7: is gone, We're able to kind of we're able to

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Speaker 7: really feel the personalities in the group and really see

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Speaker 7: the me that was just for fun, pray, we're just

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Speaker 7: fucking with you mea congratulations, but it just feels different.

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Speaker 3: She changed the tone.

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Speaker 7: Stacey's one of those rare birds that does not have

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Speaker 7: to uh seek fame from her performance during combat and

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Speaker 7: argument confrontation, right, she has a personality.

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Speaker 3: Everything she fucking does is funny.

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Speaker 7: When she was in her Confessionals this week singing that

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Speaker 7: song talking about dancing, and she was like, oh, I

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Speaker 7: can't buy that.

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Speaker 3: That's natural personality.

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Speaker 7: So much of her personality is so infectious that people,

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Speaker 7: now that she has won the hearts of the fans

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Speaker 7: of the Real Housewives of Potomac, they have gone back

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Speaker 7: into the archives of her content from QVC when she

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Speaker 7: was a host on QBC. There is a Twitter account

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Speaker 7: dedicated to clips from her QBC days where they take

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Speaker 7: her describing items on QVC in a very robust way, okay,

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Speaker 7: and they clip them down and they have populated an

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Speaker 7: entire Twitter page full of that.

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Speaker 3: So Stacey changed the show. I love it. Hell yeah.

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Speaker 7: She went out to dinner and schmoozed up next to

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Speaker 7: Chris Samuels to have to bring some value, some spice

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Speaker 7: to this show, and it worked.

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Speaker 3: It also, it works so.

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Speaker 7: Damn good Monique coming back about that, you know what

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Speaker 7: I'm saying, Stacy's impact once again, Monique got a job

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Speaker 3: So this is great, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: And I think that she handles herself well when when

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Speaker 7: Giselle and especially Astley, because Ashley throws things at people

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Speaker 7: figuratively speaking, of course, she throws things at the other

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Speaker 7: cast members in a much more nasty, you know, sharp

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Speaker 7: edged way, like actually a smile at you and call

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Speaker 7: you a whore so fast. You know what I'm saying, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 7: well you were. She does that all the time, and

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Speaker 7: she did that, she tried to do that to Stacy,

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Speaker 7: and Stacey turned that right back on. She said, let

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Speaker 7: me clear this up for you right now. I'm back

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Speaker 7: with my husband. She put that ring up so fast.

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Speaker 7: Everything actually said was out the window.

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Speaker 5: I listen.

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Speaker 6: I know people gave her Stacy all a hard time beginning,

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Speaker 6: including us, and she's fun.

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Speaker 5: And I like like her.

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Speaker 6: When I was watching the show, and I did watch

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Speaker 6: the whole thing, and I even went back and worked

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Speaker 6: some of the last time. Last week again, I was like,

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Speaker 6: the way she doesn't get she's gonna win because she

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Speaker 6: doesn't get emotionally, like emotionally when they be coming for her,

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Speaker 6: even when it's five against one, four against one.

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Speaker 5: She's like in her own.

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Speaker 6: Little kind of poo through world and that makes it good,

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Speaker 5: Now that's either good TV to you or you're like,

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Speaker 6: Like the whole time it was like someone was getting

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Speaker 1: Shows work when you have out of seven housewives, one

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Speaker 2: If the read is my breaths think that they have

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Speaker 1: And they had nothing to say after that. And that's

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Speaker 1: why when you look at her in this episode, even

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Speaker 2: I felt it fell flat to me. I feel that

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Speaker 1: And I do think if I had listen, I'm enjoying

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Speaker 2: What I will say is this, not every housewife has

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Speaker 1: We know that Astley the ship starter like that, that's

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Speaker 2: We know that Gizelle's a force multiplier who is the attagonists.

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Speaker 2: We know that who she is. We knew that Karen

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Speaker 8: Start now like we will have fun, but the moment

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Speaker 8: I'm going to talk to me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like that's that's proverb on his Twitter.

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Speaker 3: That's right, So.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting is I do feel like everybody is trying

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Speaker 2: And I think, look, let that be just zelling Ashley's job,

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Speaker 1: I don't want anybody else to feel the need to

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Speaker 6: It feels like everyone's acting like they're all on notice

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Speaker 6: everyone's trying to are to like I'm gonna make sure

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Speaker 6: I'm still a housewife, and I'm like, yeah, y'all are established.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to do all that. Like every single.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't like how it seems like they have

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Speaker 6: A pack, like a wolf pack mentality on these shows,

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Speaker 6: where in the beginning, we're all gonna hate Stacy. Okay,

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Speaker 6: I don't know, it's punching down a little bit, you

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Speaker 6: I used to be a red carpet correspondent and a

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Speaker 5: Like she knows, she's not feeling good about us.

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Speaker 6: She's not feeling one hundred percent right now. And you're

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Speaker 5: You're gonna be off.

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Speaker 1: I actually it's funny brought that up, Claudia. I actually

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Speaker 1: agreed with you on this too because I didn't see it,

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Speaker 2: Because one thing I always say to people is I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm a gay man, I'm felinine, I'm not a woman.

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Speaker 1: I will never sit up here and try to ever

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Speaker 2: Be a woman. I don't have that ability. So me

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Speaker 9: The scene of Stacy crying and she told just Gil

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Speaker 9: she thought she was being body shamed, I as a man, right,

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Speaker 9: it didn't make sense to me because I'm like, no.

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Speaker 1: They're clocking your faith too. Not being body shame. You're

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Speaker 2: I didn't get it. I didn't understand it.

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Speaker 1: And then Claudia, Claudia actually says something that I'm now saying.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm having the aha moment.

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Speaker 1: I now understand that this woman because I think Angels

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Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, listen, I'm a man. I don't see

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Speaker 6: She definitely has the baby weight, like I'm gonna keep

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Speaker 6: When they flashed back, she was stint in. The face

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Speaker 6: So I get it, Like, listen, the filter face, well

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Speaker 8: I mean, look, I'm gonna sit this one now because

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: She's not feeling good about herself, so she's gonna filter

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Speaker 5: She doesn't, and she doesn't I have.

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Speaker 7: The utmost sensitivity, like I have the utmost respect, grace

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, much like what you said, Carlos, to echo

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Speaker 7: That ain't what I do. What I will highlight is

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Speaker 7: she is talking cast shit about these other women in

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Speaker 7: She's making slick Joe low key slick references about people's

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Speaker 3: All operable operating table?

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Speaker 7: Ever even think of so like seeing her cry and

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Speaker 7: punch down, like we talked about earlier.

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Speaker 3: I punch up.

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Speaker 7: I'll say the worst shit in the world about you,

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Speaker 7: but I'm never gonna punch it down with it, you

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Speaker 7: but then it felt like, if you could dish it,

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Speaker 7: take it. I'm just gonna put it like that. If

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Speaker 7: you can dish it, you need to be able to

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Speaker 7: take it. Tough en up while you're crying in the

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 6: She's uncomfortable, she's out of re leave with these girls. Also,

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Speaker 6: she also lied. This is something I forgot the clock

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Speaker 6: last week and bring it up when she said that

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Speaker 6: I went back and looked at that. I reround it

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Speaker 6: four times and Wendy hugged her, and she got hugged

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Speaker 6: by like a couple of people. So go back and

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Speaker 6: now with where she's thinking.

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Speaker 5: She's not thinking straight.

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Speaker 6: She's saying one thing and being the big bat wolf

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Speaker 5: That's what it feels like to me.

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Speaker 6: So then when you're in the safety of your confessional,

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Speaker 6: you pop off and you talk to shit, but you're

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Speaker 2: So I mean, but no, Dustin, I mean, I'll say this.

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Speaker 1: That I want to have her doesn't Obviously, I actually

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00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: have a better understanding of Angel based on what Claudia

441
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: is saying, because to me, it does track because and

442
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: the reason why I tracked to me it is only

443
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: because she said body shame and and and again. As

444
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: I was watching it, I was like, that's not fair

445
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: to Dezel to say that because it's Zilla, come on

446
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: your body, but that Claudia is highlighting that, Look, this

447
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: woman doesn't feel right altogether, but primarily her body that

448
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: isn't what's used to because I'm now thinking this, this

449
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: woman has watched the show and wanted to be on

450
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: this show for a minute.

451
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say how many years.

452
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 10: So knowledge was thinner toot to say that the moment

453
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 10: you got cast to be on the show, you're probably like, no, yes,

454
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 10: so to go in because.

455
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: When she was crying, where's is coming from? But now

456
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh.

457
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: I now see it because again when I Farlow's King,

458
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: look at Angel, I think she is so beautiful. I

459
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: love the fact that she's Kirby. I'm really big on

460
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: women on these shows. Like I said before about Bell Collective,

461
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: I have a very Kirby casts and all have different

462
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: body shapes and all of them right, but I love

463
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: seeing that representation on these shows.

464
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 2: And I thought, like, kudos.

465
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: To produce of the network to cast as beautiful Kirby woman.

466
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: Now, but now that with Claudia is saying.

467
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm not like, oh I didn't I didn't know that

468
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: there's there's a possibility that Angel post birth doesn't.

469
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 2: Feel like herself. And when they clocked.

470
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: Her face pune, she intern, Oh my god, they clocked

471
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: the one thing I was insecure about, and that's everything.

472
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: So I now understand Angel.

473
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: I agree. Also, I'm sorry, go ahead.

474
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 5: I talked a lot ahead.

475
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 3: No, but this this women ship, so I feel like

476
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 3: you need to get you. You know what I'm saying.

477
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 5: You need to get to my memory pre metopause.

478
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 6: When I moved to When I moved to Dallas from LA,

479
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 6: I was like one hundred and forty five pounds.

480
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 5: I was like very out of twenty six inch waist.

481
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 5: My waist is small, B.

482
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 6: Size boobs whatever, like I was like model sin right.

483
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 6: But even in La, I thought I was big because

484
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 6: that's in LA that's like almost thick.

485
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 5: I moved to Dallas. I got to relax. I'm on

486
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 5: the radio.

487
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 6: We're eating grits at six o'clock in the morning, and

488
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 6: like brisket because everyone's advertising at barbecue. So I gained

489
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 6: thirty pounds very very quickly. Now it maybe go from

490
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 6: a B to a D cup. Naturally, everybody thought I

491
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 6: had a boo job I didn't realize how much weight

492
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 6: I gained because I'm still thinking, oh, I'm still thinking

493
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 6: I'm looked the way I did in La. I remember

494
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 6: someone came to my radio station and it was someone

495
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 6: from La and they were walking behind me and they

496
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 6: were like, damn, you got big out here, and I

497
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,239
Speaker 6: was like oh. And then I never felt good after that,

498
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 6: Like I had been trying to chase it since. And

499
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 6: I've been on OZAMPI like five times. I ran seven

500
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 6: miles a day, droning the pandemic. Like and no matter

501
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 6: what people would say, You're beautiful, Claudia, beautiful, but I

502
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 6: didn't feel beautiful. I did not feel the way I was.

503
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 6: I look, I post do he backs all the time.

504
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 6: She's probably looking at her old reels, her old footage,

505
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 6: or when she felt that she was at her best.

506
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 6: I know I was doing that all the time, like

507
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 6: I gotta get back, and until I get back, I'm

508
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 6: not worthy. I don't feel good about who I am.

509
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 6: This is like you you think this is cute. You

510
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 6: should have seen me back then. And it took a

511
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 6: long time to get comfortable with the extra weight, you

512
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 6: know what I mean. And that's a bit And then

513
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 6: she's also probably dealing with the you know, I don't

514
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 6: know if she has she had postpartum or any of

515
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 6: that stuff, but you do have from what I hear,

516
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 6: a big emotional like you're dropping the hormones and then

517
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 6: all this stuff. I just don't think she's a happy

518
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 6: person about herself in general. She does have a good

519
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 6: husband from what we know, because she makes little jabs

520
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 6: that she's nice, but then she says some mean girl shit.

521
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 5: Sometimes definitely yes, she's like, oh, you know he's a starter.

522
00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: Yep.

523
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 6: Oh he gave me five thousands. She's trying really hard

524
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 6: to be like, I'm here too, I'm one of y'all too,

525
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 6: I'm good enough too. And she's doing it with little

526
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 6: microaggressions that it tells me all I need to know.

527
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 6: She's not feeling good about herself for now, so where

528
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 6: she can't get a jab in like I got a ring,

529
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 6: you don't.

530
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 5: I have a husband, and my husband husband don't.

531
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: Play about me.

532
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: He's about to send the jet And I say, angel I, look, baby, she's.

533
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 5: Over compensated good about herself. That's a woman. And I listen,

534
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 5: I read, we all read people for a living. Yeah,

535
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 5: and she's not going to ever say it.

536
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 6: She can't say it to those girls because that's not

537
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 6: the space to feel vulnerable. You can't because everything will

538
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 6: be used.

539
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: To get the space receive that.

540
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: But you know, but I want to hear from you too,

541
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: because you know, outside of that, Stacey, Stacey, we.

542
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: Love you, always, mind, forever in our hearts. Yeah.

543
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 7: No.

544
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: But the thing with Angel that I will say justice

545
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: on point as well as the fact that Angel, I

546
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: need to know which one you're gonna be. If you're

547
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: gonna be the me and girl, I'm here for you, sister.

548
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be the passive girl, I'm here for

549
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: that too. If you're a lady sound by queen. Okay, baby,

550
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: live it up. But we gotta pick a Lane's sister.

551
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: So when she is having these conversations and she is

552
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: saying things like the five thousand dollars, my husband will

553
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: play about me. He listen to private Jeff of me girl,

554
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: And then we do see her having a good time

555
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: at Wendy's party. But the moment she spoke the kk

556
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: a kk was a wet blanket. You know, her aptitude

557
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: did change.

558
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 2: So I am confused about who is Angel Now.

559
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: I will say that today, even today, Claudia has to

560
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: tell me understand her a lot more.

561
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: So, thank you, Claudia.

562
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm still wondering, like, Okay, well, all that being said,

563
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that we get to know the real Angel

564
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: because I don't feel like this episode even helped me

565
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: know her either, because she does appear to be two

566
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: faced dustin.

567
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 5: She don't keep the same energy.

568
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 7: And while I'm giving her grace and and that's just

569
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 7: how I live my life, that's the way the person

570
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 7: I am.

571
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, gizelling them don't.

572
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 7: Owe her shit for whatever issues she's going through or

573
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 7: image issues or whatever. That's not their responsibility to manage

574
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 7: that even handle her with care for that they're not

575
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 7: required to, especially in an environment like an ensemble cast

576
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 7: reality show that you know, involves a lot of conflict.

577
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: People are gonna mention things that may make you uncomfortable.

578
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 7: They're gonna say shit that you won't like, and so

579
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 7: the the the entitlement. You know what I'm saying that

580
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 7: that people should give her some sort of grace when

581
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 7: she hasn't given anybody any when it comes to her

582
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 7: takes her opinions the way that She's chosen to answer

583
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 7: questions laughing to.

584
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: Message certain things. You know what I'm saying, It just

585
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: is what it is.

586
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 7: So Angel, I think is trying, whereas Stacy is effortless.

587
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 7: And I think that's the difference, right, because while we

588
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 7: do like Stacy for having an opposite or an unexpected

589
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 7: reaction to some of the antics of her cast members,

590
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 7: we don't like her just because she's doing something unexpected.

591
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 7: We like her because it's natural. You can get into

592
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 7: the space of trying to be contrarian just for the

593
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 7: sake of and you end up like a Marlowe Hampton

594
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 7: who we loved for many, many years. But once Marlowe

595
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 7: was given the floor and she started, she had the

596
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 7: opportunity to make decisions.

597
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That messaged certain things through

598
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: her behavior.

599
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 7: It wasn't making sense if you would anticipated person going left,

600
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 7: Marlowe was gonna go right no matter what.

601
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: That's not a winning stre either.

602
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 7: I think authenticity here is the most important element that

603
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 7: people need to consider.

604
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: Especially to THEMN Housewife.

605
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 7: So Angel, get in there, say what's on your mind,

606
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 7: but call it exactly what it is. You know what

607
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 7: I'm saying, Go in there. Look, I feel like shit today, ladies.

608
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 7: I don't like the wy that I look. And ever

609
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 7: since I had my kid, you know, it's been tough

610
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 7: for me to like feel good about the thy that

611
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 7: I look. So that being said, I got a short fuse.

612
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 7: Don't fucking piss me off, you know what I'm saying,

613
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 7: and just lea with it. So then they are disarmed,

614
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, And you can go ahead

615
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 7: and exist. The putting on is what's getting annoying with

616
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 7: Angel on.

617
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 6: This very well said, and yeah, being self deprecating if

618
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 6: you can't, that will help. But like you're above it all, y'all.

619
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 6: My husband, we rich, we got this, we got that.

620
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 6: And then the next day you crying. I didn't like

621
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 6: to switch up with when KK went to go lay down,

622
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 6: and then when she was gone, Angel had a blest

623
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 6: with the other girls, and then the next day she

624
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 6: was mad again. And it's like, I'm not saying she's

625
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 6: by polar but that's what it's gonna give to the

626
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 6: people there, like damn, like we don't know, so it's

627
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 6: gonna she's making it. These are self inflected injuries. You're

628
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 6: making it harder for the women to actually embrace you.

629
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 6: And these people are very smart, very bright day clocket,

630
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 6: so they're gonna like not have too much patience, Like

631
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 6: you're only gonna get a couple of times doing this

632
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 6: where they're gonna kind of like they're gonna be like

633
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 6: done with you, and you're gonna be the forever villain

634
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 6: where they're all gonna be there's always someone that they

635
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 6: want to gang up on and don't let it be you.

636
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 6: It was Stacey, now, it's you.

637
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: It's you now.

638
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 6: And I was rooting for for for Angel, but makes it.

639
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 5: Harder when she does stuff like that. I didn't get

640
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 5: why she like she.

641
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 6: May progress with the ladies and then went backwards when

642
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 6: she's around her front. I don't know why she's doing

643
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 6: that or why she's playing for her girl so hard.

644
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's one of those things where and

645
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: this is just me knowing my history producing these shows

646
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: that when a current reality star or in this case,

647
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: housewife bring you on the show and you get the

648
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: housewife title, it's like this allegiance, you know, like I'm

649
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: brought to this motherfucker like be loyal to me. And

650
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: I am wondering if that's if this blind loyalty is

651
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: what Angel has to KK.

652
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: I really want. I mean, the see is already filmed.

653
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: Ak's gonna have a very, very, very tough reunion based

654
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: on this season. Dustin is right when it comes to

655
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: how people were really advocating for Marlowe to get a peach,

656
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: and a lot of people felt that, but Marlowe got

657
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: the peach.

658
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: That Marlowe wasn't who they thought.

659
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: She would be as a peach holder, right, And marlow

660
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: has said her own reasons as to why that didn't

661
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: happen in her regrets, and she's been very vocal about that.

662
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: I do wonder if Jazzy, looking at this season, has

663
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: those same regrets, because you know we'll get towards the end,

664
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: but Jazz is having a tough time.

665
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: I'm not Jazzy.

666
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: KK is having a tough time because KK really is

667
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: coming across like she's not having fun. Everything annoys her

668
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: and that's not the KK we fell in love with.

669
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: But before I get to the end, I do want

670
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: to get into the ladies talking about Giselle having a boyfriend,

671
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: because what.

672
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: Brezielle does well that I'm not mad at personally is

673
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: the fact that.

674
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: She gives a lot to this show in terms of

675
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: making sure shit happens, because without her, I don't know

676
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: what will happened. But she does skate off easy when

677
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: comes to her relationships. So I love the fact that

678
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: this episode all the ladies were like, no, we're gonna

679
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: talk about this man. And to Claudia's point, vulnerability will

680
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: always make you likable.

681
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: I thought Gizill looked so likable blushing over.

682
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: This guy she's dating, because we need some sort of

683
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: balance and to see her smile and get coy like

684
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: that's what we all do when we're meeting somebody we

685
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: either are falling in love with or we're dating, And

686
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: I thought it.

687
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: Was sweet to kind of see that side of her.

688
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you guys this, how did

689
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: y'all feel when Wendy.

690
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: Said, like, you know, because I consider you a friend,

691
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: I think we're friends. And people are saying that Wendy

692
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: got what she wanted, which is the friendship of Jazel.

693
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Is that something you believe Dustin?

694
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: Yep? Well, do I believe she wanted a friendship with Giselle? Yes?

695
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 7: Do I believe she got a friendship with Giselle? No,

696
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 7: Zil don't like no, damn Wendy Gizelle. They never liked Wendy.

697
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 7: Gizelle used Wendy in season five because they was all

698
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 7: pissed at money. They couldn't stand mony they had been

699
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 7: on her going and so once the fight shit happened

700
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 7: and Wendy clamoring for the adoration of the people who

701
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 7: she deemed were heavy hitters on this cast, she ran

702
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 7: right over there, licking up, ran behind them and shit

703
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 7: sharing their views until they turned on her the very

704
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 7: next season because she was inconsequential to them right and

705
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 7: miscellaneous to them, So they decided, hey, let's have some

706
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 7: fun with her this season. Who were around some shit

707
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 7: from the blogs or whatever?

708
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: Worked like a charm. She bit the bait like a fish.

709
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 7: With whatever on the hook. Worm the worm on the hook.

710
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 7: Thank you friend, And you know that happened with Wendy.

711
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 7: The jig ben up. You've always wanted to be friends

712
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 7: with Robin and Giselle specifically. You ain't really care about

713
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 7: nobody else, but you felt like those were the most

714
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 7: powerful women on the cast, and you want their approval,

715
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 7: and you wanted their friendship and their camaraderie on the cast.

716
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 7: This was a example of Wendy, she just stopped the game,

717
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 7: that charade that she had been playing.

718
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: Since season what season was that six?

719
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 7: Since season six, she's been playing a game with Giselle

720
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 7: as far as their relationship is concerned.

721
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 3: You know, damn well, Giselle Brian does.

722
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 7: Not consider Wendy yourself or a friend before all this

723
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 7: legal shit.

724
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: Okay, the gloves are off.

725
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 7: Now you see how her and Robin just talked about

726
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 7: this shit so casually on Reasonably Shady. Go check out

727
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 7: their podcast episode when they discussed Wendy and Eddie's charges.

728
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 7: Wendy and Zel ain't never been friends, and that's why

729
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 7: that shit went down the way it did on the show. No,

730
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 7: and that's what you get, honestly, Wendy always russishing to

731
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 7: kiss somebody's behind on the show, try.

732
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: To get approval. That's what happened.

733
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 7: Now. That's one thing, Wendy. I think she looks gorgeous.

734
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 7: She looked gorgeous this episode. And she had on the

735
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 7: red flowing shit out there on the sand. She looked gorgeous,

736
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 7: legs all up in the air. She looked beautiful, you

737
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 7: know what I mean. But this is where she pisses

738
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 7: me off. It took me right back to season five

739
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 7: when she was sitting in Karen's house okay, and when

740
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 7: they were confronting Monique after that physical education with her

741
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 7: and Candice and Wendy had that black leather jacket and

742
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 7: you don't.

743
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: Have it and that is why she was doing all

744
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: of that.

745
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 7: It took me right back there to her kissing Jaselle's ass.

746
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 3: I did not like that scene.

747
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 6: Wow, that an't really be added to that. I'll just

748
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 6: say did on my friend.

749
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and I again you I haven't watched the.

750
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 6: Podcast reasonably shady yet, but that says at all. I

751
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 6: was gonna say, just wait till Wendy comes back. Well

752
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 6: the next season, and you'll see how much of a

753
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 6: friend they are. Because if you think people are gonna

754
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 6: be able to resist the earth to use that as

755
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 6: a reader, that's gonna be all we gonna hear about

756
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 6: next season.

757
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: That's it.

758
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 5: Hide your bags they gonna be. It's gonna be vicious.

759
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 6: You think this year was a little a lot of

760
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 6: little jabs, wait till next season if Wendy comes back,

761
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 6: because I don't.

762
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 5: Know, listen, you know you got correct or something.

763
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: We're going that's so Claudia you know, justin half of

764
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: her story. Again, So Wendey wore a black I don't

765
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 2: have a leather jacket.

766
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: When you wore a black leather jacket and had office

767
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: shoulder like this Partia?

768
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: Wow, Yes she did.

769
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 6: She did.

770
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 7: And it took me right back to that same And

771
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 7: it was in the energy, Claudia of her wanting to

772
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 7: be in the group in the end crowd with the

773
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 7: click down with the crew.

774
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, That's what it was. And

775
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: she was so.

776
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 7: She was so confidently casting judgment upon mor Nique, and

777
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 7: it was pissing me off.

778
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 6: So it was like she thinks, as long as she's

779
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 6: with the girls over here, she don't care, like she

780
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 6: can be mean to the other girl.

781
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 5: With the big dogs up here.

782
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 6: Is it like that?

783
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm glad I was never like that. I never

784
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 5: gave a.

785
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 6: Fuck who liked me, friend, Yeah, never care, not afraid.

786
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 6: I don't care if you're a head bitch, a second bitch,

787
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 6: third bitch.

788
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 5: I do not care.

789
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 6: I'm staying on what I think. It could be a

790
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 6: thousand y'all against me over here, and that's it. I'm

791
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 6: standing on my business. I'm not a fan of nobody

792
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 6: on these shows. So that's how you you know, you

793
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 6: go in there and be a fan white of your

794
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 6: cast members, you will be all him and and Han

795
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 6: and going along with ship that you don't really your

796
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 6: core doesn't really go with because you want to approval

797
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 6: and that makes a harder time for you. Not saying

798
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 6: she's doing that, but I'm just saying reality stars in general, Angel,

799
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 6: lessen to you, like stand on your own thing, like

800
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 6: be who you are one hundred percent of the time.

801
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 5: Because I'm rooting for her, but we it's it's it's it's.

802
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 6: A turnoff when you Rarahu and you're confessionals and then

803
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 6: you ra with then you tail between the legs when

804
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 6: she's it's you gotta pick which one, mama, because it's

805
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 6: going to confuse the audience on who you are.

806
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 7: And they really gonna get her ass too at the reunion,

807
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 7: and by her as I mean Angel, because at this point,

808
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 7: you know, we're watching what they've already recorded.

809
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 3: They haven't had a chance to confront her about the ship.

810
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 7: She's talked to them confessionals yet, so they gonna tear

811
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 7: her ass up at that reunion. I'm sure she's gonna

812
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 7: have a tough time. My girl k is gonna have

813
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 7: a tough time. Unfortunately, we know Wendy gonna have the

814
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 7: time of all times at the reunion there.

815
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 3: If I hope she's there, I really hope she's there.

816
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: I definitely see her being there for sure. She listened, Claudia.

817
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: She's been promoting the show every Sunday.

818
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: She promoted it last night, so I don't see a

819
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: reason why she wouldn't be there, Claudia Dustin.

820
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: Before I move on to the ending of the episode,

821
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 2: I do want to read to you guys.

822
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: Angel said a a tweet recently, right after we take

823
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: Monthery Night Live last week, So I.

824
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: Want to from Angel Massy.

825
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: She tweeted, I have so many thoughts and feelings about

826
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: this show.

827
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 2: I'll wait until the end of the season to spill.

828
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: However, then shut up, shut up.

829
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 7: I don't understand why you're saying anything, because what is

830
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 7: the point of that. You just wanted to feel like

831
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 7: you were getting some off your chest. All that does

832
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 7: is send people running in circles. It's a waste of

833
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 7: everybody's damn time. That was stupid to tweet. If you're

834
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 7: not gonna say share your thoughts and your feelings on

835
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 7: the season, then don't tell us you have thoughts and

836
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 7: feelings on the season, because.

837
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 6: That how a bookmark that So when later Rembride October

838
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 6: thirty first, Yeah, I think she's gonna have a lot

839
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 6: of regrets when she sees the show and see how

840
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 6: she's coming off in the commentary of Damn, I should

841
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 6: have stood more in business, I think. And it sucks

842
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 6: when it's too late, like when it's already shot, you're like, fuck.

843
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 5: You know.

844
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 6: My only hope is if I get asked back for

845
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 6: a second season, because you know, when you watch it

846
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 6: and you're like, damn, because just the first time, right,

847
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 6: So she's not really knowing how she's coming across, and

848
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 6: she's singing it in real time like how we are

849
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 6: in her in the scene. She probably not even realizing

850
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 6: that she's coming off like this.

851
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be challenging, so loove next season. I

852
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: think we all can guarantee Karen's.

853
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: Coming back to the show. I mean opened up with her.

854
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: Who's that be? Eight Houselives.

855
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 5: You said, Tia, Tia go, you do?

856
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: I love Tia, I do too, But you asked me

857
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: who I think We'll go?

858
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, but she's really like, she's not a force multiplier,

859
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 6: She's just entertaining.

860
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 2: I know.

861
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: But you know what, because Dustin said something, just go

862
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: back a little bit before I go to the end.

863
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 2: When Dustin talked about Stacey.

864
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: Bringing the energy of a different texture to Potomac the

865
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: way Portia and Kenya did to Atlanta, which I said

866
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: from day one, and Dustin knows, I feel the exact

867
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: same way I said. And Kenya single handily rature of

868
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: that Atlanta and.

869
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: Baby, and that's that's that's undebatable.

870
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: So when you said that about safety, the other person

871
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: I thought of was Tya because I thought that this

872
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: but you are right when you talk about Stafecy is

873
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: so different.

874
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: And I'm spoking to the people involved with the show,

875
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: like where's Stacy, Like she is everything, Like I'm so

876
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: happy they cast her.

877
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 11: So when I look at Stacey, when to look at Tia,

878
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 11: Tia gives me what Stacey gives me in the sense

879
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 11: of just so unique and different and doesn't try to

880
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 11: be anything but herself and and.

881
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: And I don't know, just still don't hit for you?

882
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: You said what and it still don't hit for you?

883
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: No, Tia hits for me.

884
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: It's something missing and you know it.

885
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 7: There's a there's the element, the difference between Stacey and Tia.

886
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: They're both original flavors, right, their original. She's original. It's

887
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: star quality.

888
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 6: But see no, but no, no, I mean, would you

889
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 6: rather lose Tia, lose Stacey.

890
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 5: Rather Lucy if you had to pick one?

891
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: And if it was my choice, I would keep both

892
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: and lose someone else.

893
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you.

894
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 5: Who who's got.

895
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. Hear me, hear me, hear me out.

896
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: When Kenya Porsche came on Atlanta, I produced that produces

897
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: a five, right. I remember receiving phone calls about like, baby,

898
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: this this, this woman named Kenya Moore is twirling.

899
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: All of Atlanta giving that show hell, And I'm like,

900
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And then I was invited

901
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: to Nimi's Shoe Dazzle event and as her friend, right,

902
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: so I went there, not as a producer. And that's

903
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: when Kenya King dressed up as Phaedra and I said,

904
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: with those butt pads, Yeah, I didn't see this one before,

905
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what.

906
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 5: Can you don't give a damn? I showed you what.

907
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: I was widely intrigued. So again this season had Porsche

908
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: and Kenya, but the talk of the town was this Kenya.

909
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: So I have to say, I remember everyone saying Kenyan

910
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: Yan and Kenya and Porte was was not considered like

911
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: the main attraction her first season.

912
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: So I sell that to say, I feel.

913
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: Like, let me not just say that, because God forbid,

914
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: they said, calls to pay a portion.

915
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm not so stop it.

916
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I think Stacy is such a

917
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: star that I would never compare her and Tia right now,

918
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: the way you could not compare Porsche and Kenya their

919
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: first season.

920
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 2: But Porsche obviously emerged.

921
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: As like this amazing star that she is, and I

922
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: think Tia has.

923
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: I would love to see what Tia does next season.

924
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 12: So although I think, although I think Stacy's star power

925
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 12: clearly blinds everyone's, I do think, don't sleep on Tia

926
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 12: just yet.

927
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: I think Tia. I would give Tia one more season.

928
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: How would you to really see what happens? I'm I'm,

929
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm intrigued.

930
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: But CLAUDEA, do you.

931
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 7: Do you for the sake of conversation? Right, since we're in,

932
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 7: Since we're here, let's stay here for a second, right

933
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 7: Because I think the difference between the two is that

934
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 7: we have to acknowledge the difference between the two when

935
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 7: it comes to TIA's journey thus far and Porscha's first

936
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 7: season journey going into our second season, right, there was

937
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 7: a sharp pivot going in from season five to season

938
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 7: six in who Porsche was on the show. Season five

939
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 7: Porsche and seasons six through thirteen and season sixteen Porsche

940
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 7: are two totally different people. Oh yeah, completely different. It

941
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 7: says if two different people walked into the casting rooms

942
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 7: both seasons. So unless Tia think about a Porsche divorce,

943
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 7: Cordell got her boobs done, started talking about sex, totally

944
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 7: changed up her.

945
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: She was a step for.

946
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 7: Wife at first, or at least cosplaying as what do

947
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 7: they call it, a trad wife. That's what they call

948
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 7: it now, right, she was a trad wife at first,

949
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 7: completely did at three sixteen. Now she's throwing ass, talking shit,

950
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 7: hitting people in the head. She totally turned into a

951
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 7: different person on this cast. I don't know how much

952
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 7: room as a mother of your grown almost children, husband,

953
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, I don't know how much

954
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 7: room there is for a pivot, really when it comes

955
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 7: to what Tea brought to the show this season. In

956
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 7: order for her to have that same sort of impact

957
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 7: and be relevant to the show right, there would need

958
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 7: to be a shift in what you can offer. And

959
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 7: although I've enjoyed the hell out of Tia thus far,

960
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 7: I don't know the difference between keeping the Angel versus

961
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 7: keeping Tia. Angel is more connected to the cast, and

962
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 7: so there's an opportunity there for bonds and connections and

963
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 7: shit to be broken, weak and straight so far between

964
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 7: Angel and Tiya, Yes, Angel, Okay, Tia has great commentary

965
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 7: and it's fresh and oh that's kind of cool and

966
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 7: then British accent. And I think her kids are amazing,

967
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. And I enjoyed seeing her

968
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 7: scenes as a mom. I will watch a Tia show,

969
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 7: but I would rather watch Angel as a housewife than

970
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 7: Tia as a housewife.

971
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 6: What she's saying, I kind of feel like she's like,

972
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 6: the more we talk about it, she like when she

973
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 6: pops up, she's definitely a light.

974
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 5: She brings fun.

975
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but how some.

976
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 6: People like I just feel like she's could almost be

977
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 6: like a supporting member, like a friend, because in her life,

978
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 6: her life is into her credit. There's not a lot

979
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 6: of dysfunction there, not delusional like Stacy, which makes her interesting.

980
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 6: Angel do you know that some darkness going on there.

981
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 6: She's not happy with herself, so we don't know more

982
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 6: about that. Giselle, you know, she's a shit starter. I

983
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 6: feel like with Tia, she's fun, like she's a fun friend.

984
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 6: Oh bring a homegirl, bring a homegirl. She's fun, she's fun.

985
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 6: But maybe she's gotta have to mix it up a

986
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 6: little bit with somebody, get into with someone, or I

987
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 6: don't know, stand for something, because like right now, she's

988
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 6: just it's like a fun one liner here and there.

989
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 6: I get what you're saying, but I love it. I

990
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 6: love what she brings the show me too.

991
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: And and that brings me to what we saw at

992
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: the end of this episode was the battle between Jazz

993
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: and KK that has been brewing since they both were

994
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: on the show last season, fighting for a champagne flute.

995
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: The housewife prop and KK one.

996
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: Jazz is super enjoyable to watch this season.

997
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: This episode, I smiled a lot looking at Jazz. So

998
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: Jazz and KK are there, there's this tension brewing, and

999
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 2: they didn't show.

1000
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: Us everything else going to happen, So they did a cliffhanger.

1001
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: But what we're seeing is the fact that Jazz is

1002
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: intimating that KK said something so bad about Wendy that

1003
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: on a scale of one of five, and Wendy of

1004
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: our heard about it.

1005
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 2: How mad she would get, she said at a point five.

1006
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: And these two are starting to really open up Pandora's

1007
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: box in terms of what they said to each other

1008
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: when they were in friendly spaces. When you look at

1009
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: Jazz and KK and what appears to be the destruction

1010
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: of a friendship they did have, what are your thoughts

1011
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: on that, Claudia, Do you really think they have to

1012
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: do with two girls talking about each other Jazzny said

1013
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: the topline in which KK said anything these things.

1014
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: About Wendy, they were in a good place, meaning Wendy

1015
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: and KK.

1016
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: Or do you think it's two women who are trying

1017
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: their best to be a housewife and that's a little.

1018
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 5: Bit of both.

1019
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 6: Ain't nothing worse and get into it with someone that

1020
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 6: is close to you knows well the body's are buried.

1021
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something. When they were having the conversation,

1022
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 6: when they were talking shit about Wendy allegedly, do you

1023
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 6: think Jazz was just sitting there like, oh, not saying anything. No,

1024
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 6: they probably was both talking shit.

1025
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 5: I hate when girls do this shit.

1026
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 6: Don't just tell my part, don't cut my part out

1027
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 6: of the text messages and just show. Don't just cut

1028
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 6: your part out and show mind. Y'all were both if

1029
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 6: y'all were friends or cool, y'all was keyking, y'all was

1030
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 6: both talking shit and now when we're out cool, now

1031
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 6: you want to let it out. You was saying shit too.

1032
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 6: I don't like when people do that, when they use

1033
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 6: some stuff that was said when y'all was cool, cool,

1034
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 6: and y'all was like, you know, having a little kikey

1035
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 6: about something that's to me should be like, I get it,

1036
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 6: but I don't like it. I hate when women people

1037
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 6: do this shit. They tell this stuff happens all the time.

1038
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 6: Tell tell, tell me why she was so comfortable saying

1039
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 6: this stuff about Wendy to you, because y'all was both

1040
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 6: talking about the lady. It was never just one person

1041
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 6: sitting there just listening and saying, oh, no, that's you

1042
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 6: shouldn't say that about Wendy.

1043
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 5: They both was talking shit.

1044
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 6: So I bet when it comes out and now they're

1045
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 6: gonna start dropping bombs and then of course they got

1046
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 6: that the extra layer of one got to be a

1047
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 6: housewife and one didn't. So now when once one person

1048
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 6: takes the gloves off, now it's gonna be oh, now

1049
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 6: it's on, Now it's up. And now you're gonna hear

1050
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 6: some real bad stuff about from both of them. Now

1051
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 6: they're about to both let the chopper sing, and they're

1052
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 6: both gonna be letting out ship that they shouldn't have.

1053
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 6: That happens. And let me tell you, every friend circle,

1054
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 6: even us, our friend circles, you and your friends, we

1055
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 6: all have a shady chext thread where you feel comfable

1056
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 6: with your people people where you.

1057
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 5: Talk your shit. That's not that's normal. It happens. Now.

1058
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: You said that, though I could be to hear your thoughts,

1059
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: I didn't have to say. I was lently talking to

1060
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 2: somebody the other day about the fact that I think if.

1061
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: Everybody said back and said, look, everybody has been guilty

1062
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: of either on the receiving end or being the sort

1063
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: of instigator and talking shit.

1064
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 5: And and the thing is this, Even people you like

1065
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 5: you made that day to.

1066
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: Say, I'm in my forties, so I've had enough life

1067
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: experience to know that talking behind someone's sounds so crazy,

1068
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: but hear me, I'll does it.

1069
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 6: Let's be honest conversation, because let's have real one.

1070
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 8: Everybody breathing has had conversations about another person when that

1071
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 8: person was not in the room. And on the surface,

1072
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 8: it can be you talked the bottom behind your.

1073
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 2: Back and behind my back. No, I set a conversation

1074
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 2: about you and you weren't there.

1075
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: However, like Claudia said, if you want to know what

1076
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: I said, I can tell you to your face.

1077
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 2: I have nothing to hide.

1078
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: But we're all guilty of having conversations with about another.

1079
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,479
Speaker 2: Person when that person's down the room.

1080
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: And Claudia is briden the sense of look, you all

1081
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: have had a moment as friends to where me doesn't.

1082
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: At Claudia had a conversation and Claudia said something about.

1083
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: A person that I know, and I said there and

1084
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: listened to it.

1085
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: I should not be considered fake because I listened to

1086
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: my other friend say something about somebody that I know

1087
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: who I consider the friend. To me, that's what to y'all,

1088
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship get involved.

1089
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 5: So if you tell on me, yes, I'm not gonna.

1090
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: Been tell you know. Colonia was saying it about you.

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00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: I actually agree with you, and that's why I don't

1092
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: like the fact that they were going there, because I

1093
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: thought it was a desperate move.

1094
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 2: Or a battle. But Dustin, who what think I love

1095
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: about Dustin?

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00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: Dustin will let you know immediately his bias when it

1097
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: comes to this person is my friend and that's my favorite.

1098
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it what I'm willa say. So, Dustin,

1099
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts about this? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm old school when it comes to that

1101
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 7: kind of ship. I don't believe in talking about your

1102
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 7: friends behind their back. There there are and again, yes,

1103
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 7: we all have conversations. We are discussed things with there

1104
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 7: are degrees. There's varying degrees of appropriateness when it comes

1105
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 7: to conversations that you should have. Again, y'all know, this

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00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 7: is probably the only place in my life where I'm

1107
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 7: conservative and traditional right come to that friendship shit, discussing

1108
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 7: your friends having your friends back, y'all know me.

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00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: I'm very old school like that.

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00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 7: So I don't do the talk about your friends with

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00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 7: another one with this one, with that one.

1112
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 3: I don't do that.

1113
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 7: Now, if we having a conversation and certain things come up,

1114
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 7: we discussing something that's one thing. But I'm not gonna

1115
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 7: go behind my friends back, Nor am I gonna sit

1116
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 7: behind my friends back and let somebody.

1117
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: Dog them out and talk about them like a dog.

1118
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: We adults.

1119
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 7: If y'all have y'all challenges in your relationships, that's expected,

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Speaker 7: and you may have a net. Somebody might not like you, Claudia,

1121
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 7: or somebody might not like you, Carlos. Somebody might not

1122
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 7: like me and have their own issues with us. They

1123
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 7: can talk about that, But them calling me some things

1124
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 7: or calling y' all things, you're not finna just disrespect

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00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 7: my friend like that around me just because y'all got

1126
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 7: a problem, you know.

1127
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: So there's a balance, there's a line there that exists.

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00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 7: Of course, we have opinions, we share them, we laugh,

1129
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 7: make jokes. That's different to me than talking about somebody

1130
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 7: behind their back. That's two totally different things to me.

1131
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 7: So I think we need to give ourselves a little

1132
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 7: bit more grace because I'm agreeing with you both.

1133
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: That's not wrong.

1134
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 7: If you have a conversation and something comes up or

1135
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 7: someone has an opinion on something, that don't mean that

1136
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 7: you're wrong for witnessing that conversation.

1137
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: But if you participating in it.

1138
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 7: If you're speaking disparagingly of me, if you're allowing them

1139
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 7: to disrespect my family, and you know, just cross a

1140
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 7: line to me, there's just a line there that exists.

1141
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 6: So, like you said, degrees, like you know, we have

1142
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 6: friend circles, Like we had a friend circle there was

1143
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 6: four girls and here in Dallas, which we've actually disabandoned since,

1144
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 6: but we used to have.

1145
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 5: Fun and we would pop up a little bit.

1146
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 6: But there was certain characteristics of certain people in the

1147
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 6: group that we we say it like and sometimes maybe

1148
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 6: two people talk from here, not trashing, but it was like, well,

1149
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 6: you know what, she's gonna do nothing else, you's gonna

1150
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 6: be late.

1151
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 5: Well yeah, I'm gonna You're gonna we it on white shoes.

1152
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 6: You know, it ain't like evil like right character of things,

1153
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 6: but like little luck, everyone had said something about when

1154
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 6: it's like it could be to that degree. But then

1155
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 6: don't go back and say Claudie was talking so bad

1156
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 6: about you, how you always late and you never that

1157
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 6: you was right there with me and when you was

1158
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 6: a green and it was playful and you.

1159
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 7: Didn't tell me before. That's why I thing right there, motherucker.

1160
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 7: If you if somebody was talking shit about me and

1161
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 7: you held on to the knowledge of that until you

1162
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 7: got mad at them.

1163
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: Then fuck both of y'all. That's how I look at it.

1164
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you was in there.

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00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 7: You you are just as far out to me as

1166
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 7: that person because you allowed it and it was cool

1167
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 7: until you got mad at them.

1168
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 3: Now you want to tell me all this ship. Fuck

1169
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 3: both of y'all.

1170
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 6: They say, that's mess when you find out who they

1171
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 6: are on mad Day when they managed and I don't like.

1172
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: It, And I think that's why I guess.

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00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: My first thought was, all right, this is this is

1174
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: gonna get unnecessarily messy because I just don't like it

1175
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: when you feel like you said Claudia, and I said,

1176
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: when you're having conversations, and all of a sudden a

1177
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: private conversation we had, and no, I'm gets exposed when it.

1178
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: To put twenty on ten because we don't.

1179
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: Know what KK did say, and I feel like we've

1180
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: been dangled as Karen, uh what did We still don't

1181
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: know what KK said about Wendy too Jazzy, and we've

1182
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: been teased about this for two episodes and.

1183
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 5: Look, it might be nothing, it might be something like,

1184
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 5: it's not.

1185
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: Thank of the shop.

1186
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: I hope it's not be major because we're being teased

1187
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: about us for two weeks.

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00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 6: If someone would have did me like that, if I

1189
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 6: was a k and I heard that, what.

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00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 5: Did I say?

1191
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: Bitch saying?

1192
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 6: Say what I said right now? Don't be Danglo's care

1193
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 6: for we know what did I say?

1194
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: We did at the end of the episode.

1195
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, with that silver de Or bag sitting on the table,

1196
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 7: you know, Keanu be having our ship if you if

1197
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 7: you peep like she we and our friends were watching

1198
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 7: the show and we were laughing. And because Giselle had

1199
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 7: on them poochie pants and Keana had on the poochi too.

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 7: I think it was a dressed and she had the

1201
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 7: advisor cap with the seat through visor bream one and

1202
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 7: all Poochie had to talk. That's for the fashion people.

1203
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 7: But yeah, Keana be having her ship on. But at

1204
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 7: the end of that episode she caught it so great.

1205
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 7: But at the end of that episode she called Jazzy out.

1206
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 7: She was like, yo, I can.

1207
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 3: Only be accountable for whatever it is.

1208
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 7: I know, I said, so unless you want to tell

1209
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 7: me what I said, And Jazi said she kept it

1210
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 7: to herself because the timing of whatever, She's a legend

1211
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 7: Kiana to have said what she said, that the timing.

1212
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: Of her saying it would be hurt really hurtful to.

1213
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 7: Wendy whatever that meant. All these riddles and ship what's

1214
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,479
Speaker 7: going on meant that.

1215
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 5: One got a page the other one. So now I

1216
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 5: know everything.

1217
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1218
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 5: It's funny.

1219
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: Everybody does it. It's hilarious. We'll talk about like freaking

1220
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: Billy Hills, Well she got the.

1221
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 7: Peach basketball wise, you know, got her peach.

1222
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 2: Yes, it's actually that's why I think it's hilarioy. So look,

1223
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: we will see what happens with this. But I actually.

1224
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: I am glad that we were able to address a

1225
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: lot of things going on with Angel because I do

1226
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, that's the one thing to me

1227
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: that I do feel isn't as definitive in terms of

1228
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: like what their storyline is as the other. So I'm

1229
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: hoping that we get to see something different from her

1230
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: after this trip ends, so that you know, we get

1231
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: to get settled in her world and to see what.

1232
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: That looks like.

1233
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 7: So I just want to make one more no regarding

1234
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 7: Angel in her defense actually, but in Angel's defense their

1235
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 7: body shame and shit is time out for that?

1236
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 3: Because I don't know where the motherfuckers are from.

1237
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 7: But Angel is a woman who people deemed desirable right

1238
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 7: her curves, her body.

1239
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: That's not a negative thing. So I don't know.

1240
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 7: What metric or rubric people are holding her to or whatever,

1241
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 7: but that's a desirable woman where I come from and

1242
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 7: in a lot of other parts of the country and

1243
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 7: the world.

1244
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 3: And people should consider that.

1245
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 7: You sound lame to me if you body shaming her

1246
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 7: for putting on weight after having a kid, that's lame.

1247
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 3: She's a happy woman. She's a sexy, curvy woman.

1248
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 6: Like it's one thing they put lazy down in bags

1249
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 6: of pistachios, and yeah, I do all the time. But

1250
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 6: she actually gave birth to someone, like you know what

1251
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 6: I mean, Like that's it's gonna take a minute. And yeah,

1252
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 6: I just don't think she's happy about what she had

1253
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 6: that cheapy song, which it wasn't really that flattering. I

1254
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 6: know she in the room, she felt uncomfortable lasses on. Hell,

1255
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 6: that's a that's she's shown you what like her body languages,

1256
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 6: she's not really.

1257
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 5: Comfortable right now. I am. I'm assuming I hope you

1258
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 5: don't get mad at me.

1259
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 3: Insight, it's reasonable for you to say, yeah.

1260
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm glad you brought that up.

1261
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: So Rang Jos, let us know what you think in

1262
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: the comments and.

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01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: We'll see you guys next week. I Fun Bye.

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01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

1265
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.

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01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: With the Lack Effect Network.

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01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,080
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