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Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck. We're just

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Speaker 2: talking about that NBC News report on Marco Rubio. Following

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Speaker 2: up on a little bit, Buck, Here's what I think

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Speaker 2: the VP choice will tell us. Where does Trump think

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Speaker 2: that he has ground to make up and or where

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Speaker 2: can he put Biden potentially on the defensive. If he picks,

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Speaker 2: like I said, a black guy to me, it would

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Speaker 2: mean if he picks Tim Scott, if he picks Ben Carson,

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Speaker 2: it will mean that he thinks, hey, there is ground

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Speaker 2: to be made up among black men, and this is

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Speaker 2: my sign that I'm really going after that group. If

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Speaker 2: he picks Marco Rubio, I think it would be a sign, hey,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of Hispanic voters out there that I

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Speaker 2: believe are in this will be the step that he's taking.

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Speaker 2: And I think if he goes with a woman, whether

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Speaker 2: it's christinoam or Sarah Huckabee Sanders or you know who's third.

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Speaker 2: You know who's the third most likely person to be

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Speaker 2: selected right now for VP? And the gambling markets is

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Speaker 2: but I think you said Nicky Haley, right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Number one right now is Tim Scott in the gambling markets.

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Speaker 2: Number two right now is Christine Noam. Third place as

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Speaker 2: we speak right now, Nicky Haley third most likely to

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Speaker 2: be selected for VP.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Marco Rubio has jumped up a little bit since this

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Speaker 2: NBC News report, But I think it's worth paying attention.

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Speaker 2: Some of these decisions could be dictated by the polling

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Speaker 2: data that the Trump team has that they are reviewing.

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Speaker 2: And I believe we have audio of this. Buck, there's

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Speaker 2: a full fledged panic going on associated with everything having

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Speaker 2: to do with the Michigan polling data, all right, and

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Speaker 2: so I want to I want to play a couple

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Speaker 2: of these because they talked about it on CNN. This

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Speaker 2: is Harry Inton talking about the decline and support for

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden in Michigan. And Buck, you and I were

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Speaker 2: on the cutting edge of this because my wife's from Michigan.

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Speaker 4: I know that state fairly well.

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Speaker 2: I spend a decent amount of time there lots of

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Speaker 2: Arab voters for Joe Biden, lots of Jewish voters for

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden. What happened on October seventh has created a

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Speaker 2: true schism for him between those two identity groups. Here's

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Speaker 2: Harry Inton talking about that.

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Speaker 5: What we see here as back in twenty twenty, according

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Speaker 5: to the exit poll, Joe Biden won voters of color

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Speaker 5: in Michigan by sixty two points. Look at that advantage today,

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Speaker 5: it has been sliced by a third, only twenty one points.

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Speaker 5: That's Joe Biden's lead over Donald Trump among voters of color.

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Speaker 5: Among white voters, Donald Trump has gained a little bit

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Speaker 5: of steam as well. It was eleven points in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: His marchin over Joe Biden right now is sixteen points.

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Speaker 5: But this decline in support for Joe Biden among voters

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Speaker 5: of color in Michigan is something we've been seeing in

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Speaker 5: state after state, interstate and nationally as well, where he's

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Speaker 5: got some big problems. This is a historic low amount

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Speaker 5: of support for a democratic presidential Canada among voters of color,

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Speaker 5: and it seems to be happening across the board.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Michigan, he's down eight.

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Speaker 2: Also, the issue that Biden can't escape immigration buck. Here

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Speaker 2: is the polling data on immigration. Of everything out there,

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Speaker 2: this is where Biden drowns.

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Speaker 5: Listen and a Marquette University Law School Paul that was

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Speaker 5: put out last month. Look at that advantage that Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump has on immigration and border security. It's near thirty points.

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Speaker 5: This is a tremendous change that's going on. And it's

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Speaker 5: no wonder that Donald Trump is running on immigration. Voters

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Speaker 5: at this particular point are quite concerned about immigration, and

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Speaker 5: they trust Donald Trump on this particular improveson. Biden has

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Speaker 5: been courting Latino voters in the Southwest.

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Speaker 4: Where does he stand?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, you might think, you know that

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Speaker 5: Hispanic voters might be the types of folks who would

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Speaker 5: have a backlash against Donald Trump's marks, Right, Ain't the case?

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Speaker 5: If you ask Hispanic voters who do they trust more

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Speaker 5: on border security and immigration? Overwhelmingly they trust Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: You buy it?

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Speaker 2: Do you buy that Biden's this far underwater in Michigan

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Speaker 2: because if he loses Michigan, Buck, he cannot be electedretty much?

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Speaker 4: Four? Yes?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think right now? Yes, I mean, the election as

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Speaker 7: we know is not now, so it's way way too early.

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Speaker 7: One of my mantras in life is never celebrate too

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Speaker 7: early because I've just I just think it's it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: if you don't want to high step into that end

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Speaker 7: zone and get tackled at the two yard line, it's

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Speaker 7: it's bad because I think you can jinx yourself. And

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Speaker 7: even if you're not somebody who believes in that kind

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Speaker 7: of stuff, the emotional damage you do to yourself when

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Speaker 7: you celebrate and then you you know, when you think

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Speaker 7: you won the lottery because you didn't read off the

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Speaker 7: last number, and and then you find out, oh wait,

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Speaker 7: that's really hard to handle. So we don't want to

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Speaker 7: get ahead of ourselves. There's a ton of time, but yes,

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Speaker 7: right now, look Biden, it makes sense. There's nothing about

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Speaker 7: this that I think we are missing. Remember in twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty two, a lot of the stuff that they were

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Speaker 7: able to pull off was well, Biden's not on the ballot, right,

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Speaker 7: so they were able to shape the narrative for different races,

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Speaker 7: some key races in ways that unfortunately broke for Democrats.

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Speaker 7: Biden's very much on the ballot this time, at least

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Speaker 7: for now. And I think that on the immigration, the

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Speaker 7: Michigan issue is really important. I want to dive into that.

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Speaker 7: But on the immigration issue and why he's so far underwater.

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Speaker 7: You have two things that make it really complicated. And

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Speaker 7: there was that video of migrants massing at the border

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Speaker 7: and rushing and getting violent with national guard there right,

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Speaker 7: so just just bursting through them, shoving them out of

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Speaker 7: the way. Those kind of visuals stay with people, and

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Speaker 7: that went viral just in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 7: The problem Biden has on immigration play is the numbers

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Speaker 7: are just shocking. I mean the number of illegals. Actually

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Speaker 7: it's really three things. The numbers are shocking. It'll be

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Speaker 7: eight million by the time he's actually running for president

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Speaker 7: or running for reelection. Democrat cities are feeling the pain

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Speaker 7: and have said so, so the numbers really high. Democrats

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Speaker 7: admit it's a problem. And then this is the key.

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Speaker 7: Unlike some other things, Biden came in and explicitly said,

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Speaker 7: you know what Trump was doing at the border, I'm

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Speaker 7: going to stop that and do other things. He flipped

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Speaker 7: the switch in the other direction. You know, he didn't

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Speaker 7: do that on China trade, he didn't do that on

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Speaker 7: some other things. On immigration, he did this. He decided

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Speaker 7: to take the country in a dramatically different direction. We

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Speaker 7: are paying the price, and they can't. They can't sort

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Speaker 7: of message massage around this one.

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Speaker 4: It's too clear.

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Speaker 2: And look the I understand, and I don't get as

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Speaker 2: many of these now. I don't know if you still

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Speaker 2: do buck people who say the polls are all rigged.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe any of the polls.

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Speaker 2: Like now that we've settled on Trump and Biden are

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Speaker 2: going to run against each other. I do think it's

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Speaker 2: worth looking at the overall picture out there and in

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Speaker 2: all of the swing states right now, Trump leads in

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Speaker 2: all seven and if you want to count North Carolina

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Speaker 2: needs of the seven swing states, he only needs to

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Speaker 2: win three or four.

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Speaker 4: Of them, depending on the math.

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Speaker 2: And again I focus on Michigan because if Trump wins Michigan,

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Speaker 2: this race is over. He's going to be the president

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Speaker 2: of the United States in twenty twenty four. Now there

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Speaker 2: are other states out there, obviously that can be tipping

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Speaker 2: having to get in the Midwest. But basically the blue

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Speaker 2: wall has to hold for Biden in the Midwest, Wisconsin, Michigan,

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Speaker 2: and Pennsylvania. He has to win. If he loses any

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Speaker 2: of the three, he's in trouble. But if he loses Michigan,

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Speaker 2: I think he's likely to also lose Mishisigan. In Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: I think there's a strong correl correlation factor there. But

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Speaker 2: what's unique about Michigan is this Arab Jewish coalition of

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Speaker 2: voters that is abandoning him. It's really hard to play

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Speaker 2: both sides, and this thing doesn't seem like it's going

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Speaker 2: away buck And remember, guys, corrected me if I'm wrong

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Speaker 2: on this. I think voting in the Midwest, this is

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Speaker 2: going to sound crazy to you, guys, starts in five months,

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Speaker 2: like five and a half months. So once the early

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Speaker 2: voting starts, in other words, and I want as many

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Speaker 2: of y'all out there voting early as can. You're chasing

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Speaker 2: a diminishing number of voters. So whatever the snapshot is

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Speaker 2: of where the race is, let's say in early October,

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Speaker 2: that snapshot becomes a reality because polling is just a

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Speaker 2: snapshot of a couple of days before. But you're banking

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Speaker 2: huge numbers. Remember John Fetterman had half of his vote

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Speaker 2: in in Pennsylvania before or they even had that debate.

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Speaker 2: Buck the best Democrat senator by the way, Yeah, our

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Speaker 2: favorite Democrat senator. I mean, by half of the vote.

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Speaker 2: Think about how crazy that is before they even debated.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna try to do that. Don't make any mistake

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Speaker 2: to the extent that Biden is even willing to debate Trump.

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Speaker 2: They want the Democrats to do as much of their

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Speaker 2: that debate. But I do think one of the big

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Speaker 2: stories was, Okay, Biden had the entire stage to himself

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Speaker 2: for the State of the Union. There was no immediate

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Speaker 2: response by Trump, and Biden's numbers have at best state

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Speaker 2: even and they've ticked down some places. That means there

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Speaker 2: was no bump. There was no like, oh, we saw Biden,

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Speaker 2: we liked what he said in the State of the Union.

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Speaker 2: Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. There has

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Speaker 2: yet to be a bump. You're gonna get into April,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get into May. People go on vacation. It's

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Speaker 2: hard to move the needle. In June and July and August.

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Speaker 2: There's panics I think starting to set in, and the Bible,

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Speaker 7: I really do sex and calls, and specifically, I'm curious

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Speaker 7: if anyone out there loves the idea of Mark or

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Speaker 7: Rubio as VP.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a Floridian.

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Speaker 7: Like I said, Rubio is a solid senator. There's no

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Speaker 7: part of me that's here's that it says that's crazy.

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Speaker 7: I just hadn't heard him in the conversation before. Is

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Speaker 7: this though? Just it could be as simple as NBC

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Speaker 7: knows this will get a lot of attention, right, I

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Speaker 7: don't know.

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Speaker 2: They cited six sources, so somebody may have floated that.

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Speaker 7: There's something Clay you need to know. It's called fake news,

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Speaker 7: and they do it. The news can be fake, No,

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Speaker 7: but I really, I mean they're going they are going

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Speaker 7: deep on this one. For Yeah, for a news organization

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Speaker 7: that needs to maintain whatever shreds of credibility it has left.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact with

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Speaker 2: Buck Bernie Moreno, I'm going to figure out how to

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Speaker 2: pronounce his name. But first, do you remember where you

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Speaker 2: So first, and that again on expense, let's talk about

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Speaker 4: First, figure out how to pronounce your name.

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Speaker 2: Because we've been talking and congratulating you about winning the

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Speaker 2: But from the man himself, how should we be pronouncing

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Speaker 3: It's Bernie Marino unless you speak Spanish. But if you

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Speaker 3: Bernie Kozar and Dan Marino got together and it is like.

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Speaker 2: I said, like Marino, Yeah, that's easy, that's easy for me.

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Speaker 7: Oh glad, We've got it all squared away. First off,

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Speaker 3: Well, As you know, I came from another country. I

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Speaker 2: I know that you are terrifying people in the Democrat

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Speaker 3: Well, it just highlights how disgustingly dishonest the media is.

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Speaker 7: So Bernie, we know that Ohio in recent elections gone

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Speaker 7: What are some of the key differences between you and

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Speaker 3: Well, he votes almost one hundred percent of the time

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Speaker 3: My point of view is very simple. After fifty years,

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Speaker 2: This fall tough question for you here, and I don't

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Speaker 3: Well, definitely a Browns fans, it's you know, you have

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Speaker 2: Back, I'll take the I'll take the other side on

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Speaker 2: But I feel very confident the Browns are not going

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Speaker 3: Of course every year. That's what you have to say,

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Speaker 7: Turning back to politics for a second, I'm just curious

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Speaker 4: Bernie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the challenge is we don't control the levers of

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Speaker 3: It's very hard for the House because whatever they do

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Speaker 7: Know, Clay, That's what I tell communists when they can

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Speaker 7: listen on the radio, I say, you can hate me

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Speaker 2: Hey, Bernie mentioned your history coming to America five years old,

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, the worst scenario in that is these

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Speaker 3: I'll make a prediction for you, aside from the Browns one,

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Speaker 3: I'm the first Hispanic like this statewide in Ohio. I'll

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Speaker 7: Bernie Marino, everybody running for Senate and Ohio critical race. Bernie,

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Speaker 7: what's your site?

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Speaker 3: That's berniemarino dot com. If your listeners could go in

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in

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Speaker 7: Trump is raging as he will be forced to sell

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Speaker 7: off great assets. That's a quote at firesale prices to

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Speaker 7: fraud fine, we've got some of his truth social rants

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Speaker 7: to get into. The Supreme Court has indefinitely blocked Tech

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Speaker 7: try to call the bluff here and keep going with it.

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Speaker 7: But nonetheless, we've got Letitia James making some very ominous

438
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Speaker 7: threats about what's going to happen in Trump world. We

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Speaker 7: have Peter Navarro former You ever interviewer or meet him, Clay,

440
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Speaker 7: I've interviewed on the show ever, I can't remember. Yeah

441
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Speaker 7: we did once, Yeah, I back in the Trump era

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Speaker 7: when he was president. I remember interviewing Peter a few

443
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Speaker 7: times on trade stuff. Peter Navarro, everybody's an ex White

444
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Speaker 7: House aide who is turning himself into federal prison today.

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Speaker 7: Federal prison for Peter Navarro for or refusing to comply

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Speaker 7: with the House Select Committee show trial.

447
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Speaker 4: Over January sixth.

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Speaker 7: Very very rare for someone to be sent to prison

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Speaker 7: for contempt of Congress, But that is what is going

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Speaker 7: on here, So they're breaking rules, They're breaking norms all

451
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Speaker 7: over the place. Also, Donald Trump has sued George Stephanopoloupolas

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Speaker 7: and ABC News for alleged defamation. We could assess that,

453
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Speaker 7: but you know, Trump's got other legal things we're gonna

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Speaker 7: get into here, Clay, let's start with this. I want

455
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Speaker 7: to give everyone a few of Trump's truth a couple

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Speaker 7: of Trump's truth social posts here because he's up against

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Speaker 7: the deadline right now. On Monday, Letitia James, the New

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Speaker 7: York State Attorney General, can start seizing assets for the

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Speaker 7: judgment for an unpaid court judgment in the state of

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Speaker 7: New York. Here's what Trump is saying about it. And then, Clay,

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Speaker 7: you tell me where you think this is going. The

462
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Speaker 7: corrupt political hacks in New York judge and ag are

463
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Speaker 7: asking me to put up massive amounts of money before

464
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Speaker 7: I'm allowed to appeal the ridiculous decision never done before,

465
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Speaker 7: no jury, no victim, full disclaimer, clause, happy banks, election interference,

466
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Speaker 7: all caps, witch hunt, all caps, Clay, all of that

467
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Speaker 7: is true, But I don't know how Trump manages to

468
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Speaker 7: get around this. I'm trying to look at what are

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Speaker 7: his options, what are the places he can go to

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Speaker 7: get out of this maze.

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Speaker 2: So we talked about this a few weeks ago and

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Speaker 2: kind of laid it out that even billionaires do not

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Speaker 2: typically have large acts large amounts of cash, because it

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Speaker 2: isn't very efficient to be sitting on piles of cash.

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Speaker 4: You want your money to be working for you.

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Speaker 2: And so I said that I thought Trump was probably

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Speaker 2: going to have a great deal of difficulty coming up

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Speaker 2: with this four hundred and fifty million dollars plus the

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Speaker 2: hundred million or some such that he also had to

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Speaker 2: put down. It appears that Trump has somewhere in the

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Speaker 2: neighborhood of maybe a couple one hundred million dollars in

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Speaker 2: somewhat liquid assets, and that is what they use to

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Speaker 2: put a bond down on the Egene Carrol case. Now

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Speaker 2: he's got to put forward four hundred and fifty some

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Speaker 2: odd million dollars as a bond payment to appeal the

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Speaker 2: verdict against his businesses, and he doesn't have that cash.

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Speaker 2: And we have talked on this program. I have a

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Speaker 2: small pinprick of the real estate assets that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: would have, but buck I have seen, for instance, I

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Speaker 2: own a part of nearly twenty acres of commercial real

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Speaker 2: estate in the vicinity of Franklin, Tennessee. And I'm a

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Speaker 2: part of a group there and we went to go

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Speaker 2: REFI and the bank just refused to REFI, so we

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Speaker 2: had to buy it out completely. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I talked about this on the show, but that

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Speaker 2: is emblematic of what's going on right now with many

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Speaker 2: different commercial real estate assets all over the country. Banks

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Speaker 2: are terrified of getting caught in this interest rate rise,

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Speaker 2: and so they're not willing to REFI right now.

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Speaker 7: Well, Clay, but it's I mean, it's much worse than that,

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Speaker 7: right because it's not that the banks were afraid to

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Speaker 7: do something for you because you are hitler and about

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Speaker 7: to end the Republic. And this is the part of

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Speaker 7: it that I've said for a long time on radio,

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Speaker 7: that you don't have to burn down all the villages.

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Speaker 7: You only have to burn down one, and the rest

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Speaker 7: of the villagers often get the idea. And with Trump,

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Speaker 7: they are sending a message not just politically to anybody

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Speaker 7: who would support Trump, but also financially. All these buildings

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Speaker 7: that people are looking at and saying, well, it's worth

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Speaker 7: five hundred million, you know, forty Wall Street it's worth, however,

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Speaker 7: hundreds of millions and Trump Tower and these different properties

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Speaker 7: that he owns. What percentage of the property does he own.

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Speaker 7: We don't know how many partners does he have, what

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Speaker 7: kind of shareholder or partner agreement exists for it. So

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Speaker 7: even if he wanted to liquidate some of these buildings,

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Speaker 7: it's not clear which ones he would be able to

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Speaker 7: override the others. And if he could get everyone to

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Speaker 7: agree to liquid let's just say he did own eighty

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Speaker 7: percent of it or fifty one percent or whatever, and

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Speaker 7: he could liquidate it.

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Speaker 4: Who wants to be the buyer?

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Speaker 7: There's actually no incentive to be the buyer right now

524
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Speaker 7: because the price is only going down. Trump is being

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Speaker 7: forced into the situation where he's a billionaire running onto

526
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Speaker 7: the used car lot saying I'm not leaving here with that.

527
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Speaker 7: I'll go to prison unless I buy one of your cars.

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Speaker 7: That only forces the price down, right, So they create

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Speaker 7: a spiral of all this additional pressure. Nobody wants to

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Speaker 7: do business with him, Nobody wants to be involved in

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Speaker 7: bailing him out. I'm talking about that from a business perspective,

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Speaker 7: And they basically serve their own interest by waiting and

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Speaker 7: seeing how how low some of these prices will go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's not only that they've come after him,

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Speaker 2: it's that they've happened to end up coming after him

536
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Speaker 2: at probably the worst time to be trying to sell

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Speaker 2: commercial real estate since two thousand and eight. So even

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Speaker 2: if he wanted to liquidate assets, that's why look mar

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Speaker 2: A Lago. I don't know what percentage of mar A

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Speaker 2: Lago he owns. They valued it at eighteen million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I rush just the Russia's wife just sold his property

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Speaker 2: in Palm Beach for what, almost one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: million dollars, not far from mar A Lago. I would

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Speaker 2: think you and I have been to mar A Lago

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Speaker 2: several times. I believe it's eighteen acres. It's both fronting

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Speaker 2: the canal there and as well as beach ass access.

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Speaker 2: I would think that mar A Lago is probably worth

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Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty or five hundred million dollars right now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a crazy number. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what percentage of it Trump owns, But this is why

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Speaker 2: I said on yesterday's program, I would like to think

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Speaker 2: that somebody who is worth tens of billions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: Who is a Trump supporter would look at this and say,

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Speaker 2: this is financial shenanigans. Let me see your assets. I'll

555
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Speaker 2: give you a loan. I don't want you worried about this.

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Speaker 2: They're coming after you entirely because of politics. Now is

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Speaker 2: somebody willing to do it?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, Well, Clay, the other part of it

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Speaker 7: is he could lose on appeal and then this.

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Speaker 2: Which is why the assets, which is why the assets

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Speaker 2: have to be supporting the valuation here, right, Or what.

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Speaker 7: I'm saying is who thinks that Trump is going to

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Speaker 7: pay them back at that point?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why you have to have the asset bonded,

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Speaker 2: right Like you have to say at that point, okay,

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Speaker 2: then I have the collateral. I'll put a valuation on

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Speaker 2: mar Lago for instance.

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Speaker 7: But what I'm saying is if a billionaire comes along

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Speaker 7: and says, I'll write check, I'll write Trump a check

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Speaker 7: for the four hundred and fifty four million dollars. That's

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Speaker 7: actually more, by the way, you have to put up

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Speaker 7: twice the twice the value in a bond. But let's

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Speaker 7: just say that they gave Trump the liquid assets. That's

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Speaker 7: if you went for a surety bond. And again I'm

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Speaker 7: not pretending like I've you know, this is like a

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Speaker 7: specific area of a law, and this is what I've

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Speaker 7: learned from reading about it, but also talking to people

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Speaker 7: on the on the real estate side of the house.

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Speaker 7: Clay if if he loses that money, that money is

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Speaker 7: gone right correct. So now, so now you're the billionaire.

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Speaker 7: You gave Trump five hundred million dollars or close to it.

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Speaker 7: So you're just not getting five hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm saying you would have to collateralize that in

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Speaker 2: some way as a loan. Now what the valuation is

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Speaker 2: of more lago or something else. Like, I'm not just

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Speaker 2: giving somebody four hundred and fifty million dollars without a

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Speaker 2: collateralized uh, you know, asset attached to it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, good luck, good luck trying to enforce

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Speaker 7: that one.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I think that's that The problem here is what's the

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Speaker 7: incentive structure for somebody else to step in and do it.

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Speaker 7: I mean it would have to be somebody who say,

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Speaker 7: who has so much money, who says, I this is

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Speaker 7: good at the country. Yeah, the good of the country.

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Speaker 7: And what I'm saying is it's not a good investment, right,

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Speaker 7: I mean you're.

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Speaker 2: Yeh, we agree there. You would not do it because

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, this is a must have.

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Speaker 2: Like you're doing it because you think Crump's getting screwed

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Speaker 2: and you want to provide support to them.

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Speaker 7: Usually a bond, you know, even if a bank did this,

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Speaker 7: or a surety bond, there's they take a percentage. It's

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Speaker 7: like a fee structure involved. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 7: business transaction of some sort. And that's what you're talking about.

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Speaker 7: The collateralized sense for a white Night to come along

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Speaker 7: and write the check, you know, you may not see

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Speaker 7: that money ever again, or at least for five years

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Speaker 7: or ten years or whatever it may be, and who

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Speaker 7: knows at that point.

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and also, by the way, how many people

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Speaker 2: want to put themselves then in the firing line? This

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Speaker 2: is what the to your point, to burn a village.

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Speaker 2: They want to come after you if you do it.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna look at your finances and be like, why

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Speaker 2: are you doing this? What's your relationship with Trump? What's

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Speaker 2: your relationship with New York?

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Speaker 7: Usually, and this is true whether you're dealing with you know,

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Speaker 7: the Irs or you're dealing with civil court judgment. Usually

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Speaker 7: the government wants to figure out a way. They want

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Speaker 7: to get their check. You know, once you've been found

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Speaker 7: to be in breach of something right, they want to

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Speaker 7: get their check. They want an agreement, they want to

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Speaker 7: move on, they want to do something else. Usually, in

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Speaker 7: this case, because it's Trump, the incentives are all haywire.

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Speaker 7: The incentives are all amiss because for Laticia James, the

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Speaker 7: slower and more destructive this process is the better for her.

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Speaker 7: You know, the more they grind this out, the more

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Speaker 7: they you know.

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Speaker 2: Every he's running for governor, baby, like, this is all

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Speaker 2: a play politically for her.

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Speaker 4: She wins in this state.

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Speaker 7: And everyone keeps coming out. I see this a lot

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Speaker 7: on on X on Twitter. We just call it Twitter again.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to keep saying.

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Speaker 4: X it's Twitter for purposes of this show.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's Twitter, fine, thank you. So, So everyone keeps

639
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Speaker 7: coming out and they're saying, oh, well, he'll appeal, he'll appeal.

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Speaker 7: This is like saying you're stuck in the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 7: You're going to appeal. New York is now the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 7: As far as Trump is concerned, there is nowhere else

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Speaker 7: to go. There's nothing else unless he can get the

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Speaker 7: Supreme Court to come in, and there would have to

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Speaker 7: be some issue of constitutionality. New York is a poorly

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Speaker 7: run state with lunatic communists on the judiciary, and the

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Speaker 7: problem that is not a constitutional issue. I hate to

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Speaker 7: break it every like, not really not not that the

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Speaker 7: Supreme Court's going to step in on.

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Speaker 2: But this is why I said, if you have the

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Speaker 2: ability to get your assets out of blue states, if

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Speaker 2: you have any kind of conservative principle at all, I'd

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Speaker 2: be nervous. I bet you would too if you still

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Speaker 2: lived in New York City, that they're going to find

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Speaker 2: something because they don't like your politics. If Trump lived

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Speaker 2: in Florida legitimately for the last thirty years and based

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Speaker 2: his corporations there, they wouldn't be able to do this.

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Speaker 2: This is because he's a Republican who happens to live

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Speaker 2: in New York. And I would say, if you have

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to get out of there while you can.

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Speaker 7: This is why you know, Judge Cannon, I believe down

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Speaker 7: in Florida, she's calling them to task a little bit

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Speaker 7: on Oh this stuff is I want to talk about

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Speaker 7: this little bit of Clay, this stuff is so super secret.

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Speaker 7: She's saying, Okay, if it's so super secret that you

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Speaker 7: need to lock this guy up in prison for the

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Speaker 7: rest of his life, a jury has to say, we're

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Speaker 7: not going to take your word for it. Yeah, this

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Speaker 7: is about the Special Council, right. That's see, this is

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Speaker 7: so interesting. That's the Florida process. That's what happens when

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Speaker 7: you're outside of a Democrat fiefdom in Florida. I'm not

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Speaker 7: saying it's going perfectly for him, but notice they had

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Speaker 7: to get an outside prosecutor to bring it in that jurisdiction.

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Speaker 7: But by bringing in that jurisdiction, you at least get

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Speaker 7: a judge who exists outside the New York political or

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Speaker 7: DC political ecosystem. And sure enough, they're running into all

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Speaker 7: these challenges already. They don't have some judge who's rubber

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Speaker 7: stamping everything right in New York on the civil side.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Clay, it's just a tyranny factory. They're just

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Speaker 7: all these judges are going to keep agreeing with each

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Speaker 7: other and keep going keep I don't know how Trump

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Speaker 7: gets out of this, but that again, he's Trump, and

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Speaker 7: somehow he's managed to get out of everything else, and

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Speaker 7: somehow he's ahead in the polls in every swing state.

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Speaker 7: And I mean, it's a crazy world we're living in

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Speaker 7: right now.

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Speaker 6: Everyone.

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Speaker 7: Let's just be honest about it, and we're We're here

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Speaker 7: with you every step of the way. We'll get into

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Speaker 7: some of this. Take some of your calls. If you

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Speaker 7: have any experience, what are some of this? Do you

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Speaker 7: have any experience in civil asset forfeiture on the legal

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Speaker 7: side either as.

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Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, massive civil aff set because

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Speaker 2: we're not talking about somebody who is, you know, unable

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Speaker 2: to handle one hundred thousand dollars debt. That's the kind

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Speaker 2: of thing that most of the time this will be

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Speaker 2: involved in. We're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's very rare that cases of this magnitude would even exist.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the most Important Tier in

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Speaker 1: politics with Clay Travis and Box Sexton.

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Speaker 7: We're joined now by Mark Robinson. He is a Lieutenant

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Speaker 7: Governor of North Carolina and he's a candidate for the

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Speaker 7: governorship of the great state of North Carolina. Mark, appreciate

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Speaker 7: you joining.

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Speaker 6: Us, sir, Hey, great to be here. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 7: Could we get you away in first, and obviously North

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Speaker 7: Carolina is an incredibly important state in this upcoming election

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Speaker 7: and range of ways Democrats still think that they can

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Speaker 7: get some make some inroads there, I think, but we're

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Speaker 7: hoping you're going to be part of a North Carolina

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Speaker 7: red wave. Before we get to that, though, when you

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Speaker 7: see what's going on at the southern border and the

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Speaker 7: Biden administration response to efforts by Texas to try to help,

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Speaker 7: what do you make of that?

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Speaker 6: Well, everything that Joe Biden's administration has done is been

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Speaker 6: counterintuitive to keeping the bord forest off secure in the

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Speaker 6: border and secondly keeping the American popular safe. He's done

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Speaker 6: an abysmal job since he's been in office, and unfortunately

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Speaker 6: this is a wretched crown jewel and that is bad administration.

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Speaker 6: He's just everything that he's done has been counterintuitive to

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Speaker 6: it and he needs to reverse course quickly for the

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Speaker 6: safety and security of the American people.

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Speaker 2: Mark, when we saw thirst of all, thanks for coming on,

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Speaker 2: good luck in the campaign. We'll probably have you on again,

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Speaker 2: certainly before election day. But when we saw how you

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Speaker 2: were getting attacked, we said, man, this guy's over the target.

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Speaker 4: We got to get him walked on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to let him talk to our audience,

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Speaker 2: but I wanted to hear from you. Why do you

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Speaker 2: think you have become the main target that you have

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Speaker 2: getting ripped to shreds by the left, And what kind

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Speaker 2: of response are you seeing from North Carolinians to those attacks.

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Speaker 6: The overwhelming majority of our response has been positive. People

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Speaker 6: are reaching out to us every day, and not just

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Speaker 6: not just Republicans, Democrats as well, who are tired of

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Speaker 6: the status quo. They're tired of the children being in

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Speaker 6: failing public schools. They're tired of these social issues being

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Speaker 6: forced on them in their homes and in their schools

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Speaker 6: and in their churches. They're tired of folks who want

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Speaker 6: to try to destroy our economy and try to let

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Speaker 6: our border be wide open and let law and order

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Speaker 6: be destroyed. They're tired of it, and they're ready for

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Speaker 6: a change, and they're ready for somebody who's going to

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Speaker 6: stand up say the things that needs to be said,

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Speaker 6: be unafraid to make the changes that need to be made,

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Speaker 6: and move North Carolina in the right direction.

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Speaker 7: If you're the governor of North Carolina, Mark and God willing,

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Speaker 7: that's where this is heading. What are the biggest changes,

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Speaker 7: the biggest policy decisions that you plan on making for

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Speaker 7: your home state.

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Speaker 6: Oh, the biggest things we're going to focus on is ours,

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Speaker 6: our economy, and our education system. North Carolina has been

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Speaker 6: on a great run since twenty ten. We had a

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Speaker 6: Republican takeover in twenty ten. Before that, we've been Democrat

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Speaker 6: controlled for decades, but we've had Republicans took over in

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Speaker 6: twenty ten. When they took over, we were about three

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Speaker 6: point four billion dollars in debt to the federal government.

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Speaker 6: We were furloughing state workers. I mean, we were in

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Speaker 6: the shambles with our economy. Those Republicans got to work

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Speaker 6: and fixed our economy. And now we're not only not

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Speaker 6: in debt, but we have a five billion dollar surplus

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Speaker 6: and we're the number one business destination two years running

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Speaker 6: in the country. And so we're poised to really start

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Speaker 6: growing our economy. And that's going to be our focus

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Speaker 6: as governor, to grow our economy. As I say, from

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Speaker 6: Murphy to Manio, Murphy being the furthest western point, Maneo

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Speaker 6: being the first furthest eastern point in the state. We

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Speaker 6: want an economy that spans all the way across North

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Speaker 6: Carolina and works for everybody, and that's going to be

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Speaker 6: our goal education. What we want to bring back. We

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Speaker 6: want to drive agendas out of classroom and we want

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Speaker 6: to bring excellence back into the classroom. Everybody. We all

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Speaker 6: hear this thing about DEI. Our version of DEI is

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Speaker 6: going to be not diversity, equity, inclusion, but discipline, excellence,

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Speaker 6: and intelligence. That's going to be our version of DEI

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Speaker 6: because that's what we want in education. We don't want

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Speaker 6: simply want a sound basic education here in North Carolina.

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Speaker 6: We want our K through twelve students to get a

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Speaker 6: world class education because that's what they're going to need

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Speaker 6: to compete on the world stage. And that's what we

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Speaker 6: want to do here in North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Mark, I don't know if you've seen this, and we're

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Speaker 2: talking to Mark Robinson, who's the Republican can it for

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Speaker 2: governor in North Carolina. The data is out that people

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Speaker 2: under the age of thirty are overwhelmingly unhappy in America.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you see this all over North Carolina talking

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Speaker 2: to young people. Why do you think that is? And

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Speaker 2: you mentioned education, But how do we fix it?

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Speaker 6: I think we fix it by getting back to the

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Speaker 6: things that we're all concerned about and joining together to

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Speaker 6: fix those things. Quite frankly, in politics, we allow about

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Speaker 6: three or four different issues to divide us on everything. Look,

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Speaker 6: I can't think of a single solitary person that does

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Speaker 6: want great education system, or great economy, or to be

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Speaker 6: safe in their neighborhoods. Not a single solitary person cannot

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Speaker 6: think of who is of good character that wants that.

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Speaker 6: The problem is we allow so many things to divide us.

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Speaker 6: It's time for us to start putting aside the things

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Speaker 6: that we disagree on long enough to work on the

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Speaker 6: things that we do agree on. And I think when

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Speaker 6: we start doing that, and I think when our so

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Speaker 6: called leaders, our public elected officials start doing that in earnest,

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Speaker 6: I think that we'll see some happiness and some cooperations

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Speaker 6: start to come back in this country.

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Speaker 7: Mark Robinson, everybody, Lieutenant governor of North Carolina. He is

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Speaker 7: running for governor in North Carolina. His website in that

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Speaker 7: endeavor is Mark Robinson for NC dot Com. Clay's got

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Speaker 7: one more for you, Mark, Go.

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Speaker 2: Ahead, Okay, I got the toughest question for you, and

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Speaker 2: I don't want you to dodge it.

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Speaker 4: Duke U n C NC.

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Speaker 2: State are all big schools in the NCAA tournament. Sure

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Speaker 2: who is going farthest? Who is your team? North Carolina

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Speaker 2: is known for basketball?

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Speaker 8: Well, North Carolina is known for basketball. We love Tarhill fans,

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Speaker 8: we love Duke fans, we love all our fans here

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Speaker 8: in North Carolina, from Apple Ache all the way across.

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Speaker 8: But my team is in C State and I'm really

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Speaker 8: rooting for the Wolf Fact to go deep, if not

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Speaker 8: win at all. But did a great job in ACC

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Speaker 8: tournament winning five straight, and they did it was absolutely outstanding.

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Speaker 8: I love to see them go deep and I love

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Speaker 8: to see them.

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Speaker 6: Win it all.

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Speaker 2: What did you think of that three that y'all hit?

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Speaker 2: I think to beat or put it into overtime against Virginia.

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Speaker 2: How high did you leave? What's the vertical look like?

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Speaker 2: I know you're not a young man anymore, but can

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Speaker 2: you still get up?

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Speaker 6: Well? You know, I have to admit I was actually

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Speaker 6: I was actually engaged at the time and was not

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Speaker 6: able to see the game. But when I saw it

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Speaker 6: at ball Batch agent Jim Valvano, it really did. And

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Speaker 6: like I said, I'm sure all we back fans probably

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Speaker 6: felt like that.

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Speaker 2: I know I said last question, but Buck and I

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Speaker 2: have been talking a lot about the twenty twenty four election,

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Speaker 2: the outreach for black mail voters, in particular, you're obviously

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Speaker 2: a black guy running for governor of North Carolina. Do

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Speaker 2: you see and hear a lot of black mail voters

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Speaker 2: that are way more open to Republican arguments than they

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Speaker 2: may have been in the past. And if so, if

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Speaker 2: you buy into that, why do you think it is?

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Speaker 6: Oh, well, again, it's because people are tired of the

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Speaker 6: status quote. You know, the Democrat Party has just simply

847
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Speaker 6: taken its mask off. When you have a president who's

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Speaker 6: willing to allow the border to stay open and allow

849
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Speaker 6: allow us to be in peril that way, when you

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Speaker 6: see a president who's not interested in maintaining law and

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Speaker 6: order in our city and is not interested in allowing

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Speaker 6: America to drill for its own all and have gas

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Speaker 6: prices as high as they are and drive inflation through

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Speaker 6: the roof. Everybody is tired of the status quo right now,

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Speaker 6: and they see that we were much better off under

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Speaker 6: a President Trump and Republicans than we are in the

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Speaker 6: President Biden. They see that here in North Carolina, they

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Speaker 6: see it everywhere, and people of all stripes are seeing it.

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Speaker 6: And I believe that black folks are going to be

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Speaker 6: the same way. They're tired of the status quo and

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Speaker 6: they want something different and they want something better. And

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Speaker 6: I think they're going to choose.

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Speaker 7: Me the next governor of North Carolina. Everybody, Mark Robinson, Mark,

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Speaker 7: when you win, you got to come on and celebrate

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Speaker 7: with us.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you got it, sir, Thank you so much, Thank

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Speaker 6: you